High Strange - Introducing Leaked hosted by Payne Lindsey

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

While the world moved on, the science, experiments, and decisions shaping what pandemic comes next never stopped. Host Payne Lindsey tracks the documents, debates, and discoveries unfolding right now — and asks why they’ve stayed out of the spotlight. Leaked is available now.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The greatest national security threat for the United States is not China, it's not Russia, it's not North Korea, it's not Iran, it's biosecurity. Biological events have the greatest potential to change the way of life in America in a nanosecond. This is Dr. Robert Redfield. For many people, his name might not sound familiar. But Redfield was the CDC director when the COVID-19 pandemic first started. A name you'd think would be front and center of the whole crisis. But it wasn't.

Why is that? When I suggested the COVID virus probably was a consequence of biomedical research, that it was not received with a lot of enthusiasm by the scientific community. How confident are you that the coronavirus came from bats? So I'm probably 90% confident that the new coronavirus came from bats. Top scientists who were initially ostracized for that hypothesis, are now saying, told you so. There was just ferociously strong headwinds.

There was this manufactured consensus. You knew that in 2020. Everyone in the research community, familiar with the basic facts, understood that a lab origin was a real possibility. So what is the truth? Then I don't mean some conspiracy here. Where did COVID-19 really come from?

There is a new report claiming that China set on critical information. information for a number of days. Dr. Fauci, do you agree that there was a push to downplay the lab leak theory? Not on my part, really. When you step back and strip away all the politics, and I mean really, please do that, because science and the truth are not beholden to any religion or political party. Objectively, there have always been and continues to be mixed messages about COVID. Chinese officials pushing back and dismissing that the virus,

started in a lab. The disease is the same name as the lab. That's just a little too weird, don't you think? The COVID pandemic upended everything. And it's almost odd how rarely we face it in detail nowadays. I've investigated missing persons cases, murders, government coverups, but over seven million lives have been lost from COVID. People I knew, people you knew, and all with no real accountability.

This isn't about debating whether or not you should wear a mask or get a vaccine shot. It's about finding the truth and accountability. My name is Payne Lindsay, and this is leaked, a deep dive to uncover answers about COVID-19 and explore the outbreaks that have forever shaped our modern world. The reality behind it is the scientific arrogance to think that we can control science for the benefit of man and there's no downside. And I'm arguing there's a big downside. And we need to wake up to it sooner than later

because that could destroy the world. Leaked is available now. Listen for free, wherever you get your podcasts.