Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay - A ‘Higher Learning’ Autopsy of the Democratic Party

Episode Date: November 12, 2024

Hardened detective Rachel Lindsay enlists the help of esteemed pathologist Van Lathan to determine the cause of death of the current version of the Democratic Party (6:54), and discuss the formation o...f Donald Trump’s cabinet (58:40). They then shift gears to debate whether or not Michelle Beadle used the n-word (1:06:32), and talk RG3’s defense of his daughters (1:13:54). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Yo, yo, your thought warriors. Higher learning is on. Zyvan Lakin Jr. And it's me, Rachel and Lindy. It's a very special episode of higher learning. Higher learning, S.D.U. Special Democrats unit.
Starting point is 00:00:17 We're performing an autopsy of the Democratic Party right now what happened with them over the course of the last week in which they were dead on arrival. So, not dead on arrival. So, S-D-U, Democrats, unit makes us the Democrats. You know that right? Why? Why is that? Well, you're defining the unit. The unit is about to get to work. So if we are the special
Starting point is 00:00:42 Democrats unit, we are Democrats. Well, the Democrats are, no, you're right. No, you're right, but the Democrats are the victims. So. I get what you did. So, well, so how would we do it? No, you're not wrong. How do we do it then? It would be higher learning, uh, Donnie? Can we still be SVU and the victims or the Democrats? No, they're not the victims.
Starting point is 00:01:11 They're not the victims, actually. They're the victims. They're not the victims. What's the best way to do it? What about something? A play on CSI. Like, uh, there you go. D.S.I.
Starting point is 00:01:26 What does CSI stand for? Crime scene investigators. Scene investigators. Okay, I like that, yeah. We're the, we're the, we're the, we're the, we're the, we're the, we're the, Democrat scene investigators. Oh, okay, okay. Higher Learning, uh, I like it, darling.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Democratic Party investigators. There we go. Right. Great. Okay. Let's do it again. We got to open again. Leave this all in.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Uh, we figured it out on the fly. We got to do the open again. Give us like a rewind music. Give us the rewind music. Yo, yo, your thought warriors, what is up. Higher learning is on. Is it. I, man, Lathie Jr.
Starting point is 00:02:08 And it's me, Rachel Lennon. This is Higher Learning. SDI.D.C.I. Higher Learning CDI. Damn. I fucked it up. What did we say it was? Democratic Party investigator.
Starting point is 00:02:29 DPI. Okay. It's DPI. All right. Last time. DPI. Keep it in. Keep it in.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Keep it in. Last time. Last time. Yeah. Your Thought Warriors. Higher Learning is on and is I Van Lathen Jr. And it's me,
Starting point is 00:02:51 Rachel Hammond. Very special episode of the show today. Higher Learning DPI as we will be investigating the Democratic Party which is dead on arrival as of November 5th,
Starting point is 00:03:07 2000 and 24. Sergeant Lindsay? Detective. Excuse me. Detective. Detective. Detective Lindsay. That's respect.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Yeah. We are now nearly a week removed from one of the crimes of the century, which is the complete shellacking of the Democratic Party. Do you have any new thoughts and feelings before we get into our autopsy of the patient? I won't say new thoughts. It's just more of thoughts that, and we'll get into it, that we didn't express the last episode because I think there was a different way to talk about it. Now it's time to get into the nitty-gritty of it all.
Starting point is 00:03:55 And if I have one thought, it really is the shift in the way the media has, is discussing the election since the results have come in. Is the way the media is discussing Kamala Harris, the way the media is discussing Donald Trump and the parties in front of us, the Democrats and the Republicans. It's been really interesting. A lot of I told you so's, a lot of like, no-it-alls. It's been interesting. Oh, no-it-alls. So of these know-and-alls, which I've never been accused of me, of these no-als. Me neither.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Me neither. Yeah, it's never been me. I don't know what people. Of these know-it-alls, is there anything that's being said that you vehemently disagree with? No. Not at all, actually. I actually don't disagree with the discourse. I'm just wondering where was this before?
Starting point is 00:04:56 I have thoughts. I have thoughts as to why you wouldn't want to do this. But there's just a lot of patting on the backs of with the I knew it's. I knew it. Yeah. I've seen a lot of that. A lot of internal fighting. It seems as if the loss has illuminated the fact that there wasn't
Starting point is 00:05:17 a lot of party unity at the base of the party. It seems that it was factioned off a little bit. There was some Game of Thrones. It's going to make for a good HBO original movie, Max original movie in the future. There was some Game of Thrones shit going on there, but we're not talking about that today because it's about the patient, okay?
Starting point is 00:05:38 It's about the deceased. It's about the deceased. It's about the deceased. And I will say this, you guys, this iteration of the Democratic Party, is dead. If the party is to move on and reclaim power in American politics,
Starting point is 00:05:57 which they're not totally without power. Okay? Let's not overstate things. But if the party is to rise to the top of the American political power structure, again, it has to be new. It has to be different. This version of the Democrats and the way that they were doing things, it is dead. Okay? The playoffs are here, and you can predict the action all the way to the finals with Fandul predicts.
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Starting point is 00:07:52 Rachel, what do you... think because two detectives, right? Or maybe I'm not a detective. You're the detective. I'm the coroner. Okay. That's why I got this jacket on. For you guys who don't know, I got lap coats.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I got a lap coats. I got a lap coat for me. I got a lap coat for Rachel. But we're not in person today. We're not in person, so I couldn't give Rachel her lab coat. Rachel's the detective. I'm the coroner. What to you when you saw this on scene,
Starting point is 00:08:23 Detective Lindsay, what was the cause of death to you? Time of death, Chesa. What was the time of death to you? I'm going to estimate here because this is typically what we do. You know, I wasn't there when the crime was committed, but I'm going to give an estimate of the time of death. Based on my determination, the time of death was November 6th around, I'm going to do West Coast time because we're on West Coast.
Starting point is 00:08:59 November 6th between midnight and 2 in the morning. You? Do you not agree with my determination? I must say something. As the corner, I do, I concur. I do not concur, I should say. Oh, okay. Just gentle pushback.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I think the time of death was April 25th, 2023. 2023? 2023. Okay, I'm a disagree with you. Go ahead. Time of death. By the time we got to Tuesday, the patient was actually a zombie.
Starting point is 00:09:46 It was a zombie. The time of death was April 25th, 2023. Do you know what happened on that day? Is that the day that Biden declared that he was running for office again? Bingo, you are the greatest detective in the HLPD, okay?
Starting point is 00:10:06 This whole episode is copaganda. But yes, the moment that Joe Biden declared that he was running for president, the party was actually dead. This iteration of the Democratic Party was dead, and I'll tell you why. Number one, there is a bench of Democrats that could be compelling national political figures.
Starting point is 00:10:30 there is a bitch and a very talented bitch. We've talked about it at nauseam, Richard Whitman, Michigan, Gavin Newsom, California, Westmore, Maryland, Josh Shapiro, Pennsylvania. And then there are people even besides that.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Now, if Joe Biden would have been the transitional president that he said he was going to be, then he would have made the determination in 22 or whatever that he wasn't going to run, which would have given the Democrats the opportunity to do something that they didn't do,
Starting point is 00:11:04 which was run the strongest candidate. That's not saying that Kamala Harris wasn't the strongest candidate. She was the strongest candidate, perhaps, but not with the strongest campaign because they had to put it together so late in the game. The moment that Joe Biden did that, to me, the Democrats, this party, the way that it looked, they were probably DOA, dead on arrival.
Starting point is 00:11:30 the rest of the people around that told us that they were in a position of strength for doing that actually owed the American people, an apology, in my opinion. So I'm going to give a little pushback. The reason I do not agree, we needed to see, you know, with the results of election comes a lot of clarity. And we're no longer looking at the polls. We're looking at how the people voted. We actually know what happened. So it's hard to make a determination on what was truly important to the American people
Starting point is 00:12:06 without seeing how they voted. If Joe Biden had not decided to really stay true to his word and was a one-term president, whoever the party would have positioned would have been a stronger candidate, but would the campaign have been as strong? Would the issues that they were running on? Would they have, with their message have still resonated with the people? is hard to determine. As strong as those candidates are that you mentioned, I can't say that they would have been able to speak to the American people and identify what the majority of this country
Starting point is 00:12:42 wanted like the Republican Party was able to do. I don't think their messaging would have changed. The messenger might have been more appealing. It might have been someone that people, you know, you couldn't talk about their identity. You couldn't talk about their identity. You couldn't talk about their age, you can talk about things of that nature. But I don't think it would have fixed the issues within the Democratic Party. Yeah, there wouldn't have been infighting as to who should be the one leading the party. But the issues that the people voted on are, it's still something that the party didn't address. And we'll get into the cause of death. But I don't think, but because of what I believe the cause of death to be, I do not think that, um, the time of death was back on April 25th,
Starting point is 00:13:30 I have to, I'm sorry, as the lab coat wearing technician here, as the coroner here, I have to remind you of a couple of things here, Rachel. I have to remind you that Joe Biden, what is an unpopular president, whether he should or should not be, Joe Biden is an unpopular president. And polling that we had consistently said, consistently said that Americans would rather say, somebody other than Joe Biden and Donald Trump and Donald Trump run for president. Joe Biden was never a strong candidate for re-election ever. They made it seem like he was a strong candidate. They made it seem like he was the strongest candidate. But he was never a strong candidate for re-election.
Starting point is 00:14:20 And there were metrics that told us that consistently throughout his candidacy until he got up on that stage and it became patently obvious that. that Americans weren't going to vote for that. His age was a factor. His ability to articulate himself was a factor. All of these things. And when you brought these things up, you were called able as because he had a stutter. You were called ages because he was old.
Starting point is 00:14:44 All of these things were said. And the reality was he was never a candidate that people were going to get behind if the Democrats were going to win. It was going to have to be with somebody else. And by the time they made the switch, it was too late. We disagree. But you just gave me another reason to add to,
Starting point is 00:15:01 you gave me another reason to add to the cause of death. There's a litany of reasons, but you just gave me another thing to add. Let's move on. Cause of death. Detective Lindsay, what is the cause of the demise of this party? What's the cause of their demise, Detective Lindsay?
Starting point is 00:15:26 There are many reasons. And I will leave it to you, Coroner, to determine the ultimate reason, but there are several things that led to the cause of death, but you get to determine name exactly what it is. I'll give it to you. Wow. Okay. One, based off what you just said before, the polls.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Okay? The polls were part of the cause of death. People relied too heavily on them. We had people on our show who told us that the polls didn't matter yet in their explanation. They relied on the polls. It's just a fact. We all do.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Like, you can't help but ignore them. There were certain statistic in polls. statistics and polls that people relied on that led them to ignore maybe what the heart of the issue was and to rely on what really wasn't the issue, the polls. Second, the iPoc community.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Taking us out. The iPod. Oh, my God. The indigenous people of Cone. We out of them. Not the black is the iPx. Whoa. The iPod.
Starting point is 00:16:28 What is this stuff I'm talking about? Okay. Okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. The statistics, I'm going back and close. The statistics, I can say this now because we have the results that have come out show that the indigenous people heavily voted for Donald Trump. Latinos came out in record numbers that records voting for Donald Trump. The Arab community came together to vote for Donald Trump. So the iPod community is part of the cause of death. Gen Z. White men. There was a whole, thing of people on social media with Gen Z where the Republicans, Maga, Trump, were really able to speak and empower a group of white young men. The working class. We can get into it later. Celebrities. And then the most, I'm not giving it. I'm not giving details. And the last one, the Democrats. Part of their own cause of death. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:32 So you're at the crime scene. You got your gloves on. You're poking through stuff. You're looking at it. You're seeing all of these different things. So I have two things that I'm leaning towards here, detective. Erosion and contagion. These are the two things. Erosion and contagion. Okay. So the Democrats have what they've cultivated is to being this multi-cultural just very diverse base. And that base is precarious in holding together. It's difficult, it's tough,
Starting point is 00:18:11 it's precarious thing to hold that base together, particularly in the age of misinformation. Because what the internet does is it takes things that are gigantic and makes them small. It used to be that in order for an idea to take hold, you have to find this critical mass of people that would make that idea palatable in the larger culture. It had to be a big enough deal for people to talk about it. That's gone out the window now. If you can find a half a million people to believe you're crazy
Starting point is 00:18:49 bullshit, you mean something because those people will then buoy whatever it is that you're saying and make you important. So that means that every single person that has any type of a following is deemed important because they have a following, no matter what they say. It's very difficult to beat that. When you talk about people now, and when you talk to people now about different things and you ask them, like, what's going on,
Starting point is 00:19:17 how things are, what's the deal? They'll say, well, you can't really say it's bullshit this many people believe it. But the internet is such a gigantic place that so many people believe so many things that are bullshit. So you saying something just because it's true just doesn't work anymore. It matters the way that you say it. And that type of contagion has taken hold with some of the biggest voices in all of media. The Gen Ziers who we thought
Starting point is 00:19:45 were by far the most woke, it turns out that they're the most captured. They're the ones that lean on the Rogans and the Jake Pauls and all of these people the most. They're the most Captured. Got to recapture them some kind of way. Don't know how, but got to recapture them. That type of intellectual
Starting point is 00:20:05 contagion is a gigantic deal. And you probably could have like just through common sense told people that that was a thing two months ago, three months ago,
Starting point is 00:20:15 four months ago, but you didn't realize how much of a thing it was until the rubber met the road and there was actually an election where it mattered.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Okay. Another thing is erosion. Erosion is the biggest thing. The erosion of that, entire coalition is the biggest deal.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Okay? There's a lot of things that we're, as we have this discussion, we're trying to make sure that we don't fall into any tropes. Like the trope that black men actually came out for Kamala Harris, right? That the black support in the Republican Party is an illusion. It's not.
Starting point is 00:20:57 It's not an illusion. If you look at swing states, then you see a couple of things. Number one, black support for the Republicans is up. It's up. Black male support is up. It's up in the swing states. Nationally, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:21:13 But in the swing states where the election was decided, you looked at places like Wisconsin where Trump was able to double his support amongst black men. Now, not to a degree to where it's like 40% of black men support the Republicans, but it was, significantly more than before.
Starting point is 00:21:30 And in a race that's on the margin, all those stuff matters, right? All that stuff kind of matters. If we look at the Latino vote, which has been much about the hood, we put all the Latinos together. This is not fair to the Latinos. Okay?
Starting point is 00:21:44 38.5 million Mexican Americans, 5.5 million Puerto Ricans, 2.6 million Cuban Americans in the mainland United States. when you look at the the margins here Mexican Americans voted for Harris at 62 percent
Starting point is 00:22:05 Puerto Ricans voted for Harris at 59 percent Cubans Cuban Beh voted for Trump 56 percent Central Americans other Central Americans voted for Harris 56 percent voted for
Starting point is 00:22:22 South American's world for Harris, 56%. And then others. Others that are considered to be Latinos with 66% for Harris and 33% for Trump. So when you look at the entire thing, there was a moving of it, but we have to be very specific now
Starting point is 00:22:42 about grouping groups together, about saying Latinos, about saying even blacks, when we're talking about it, we need to get granular on how we're describing these different groups of people so that we will understand how to tailor the messaging to them. Because all black ain't the same, all Latino ain't the same,
Starting point is 00:23:07 all woman ain't the same, and we've been reaching into large bags for all of those people, the left has, when really you have to get a little bit more intimate with the way that you're talking, and that's going to take a little bit more, information, a little bit less shaming, and probably a little bit more conversation. Can I just say something to speak to that specifically? You're right. Not everybody who identifies
Starting point is 00:23:34 as Latino is the same. And that's evident in the voting. And even if you break down some of this, you can see why certain percentages voted more for Trump or more for Harris. But we or the Democrats tend to do what you're asking of, you're asking, I'm assuming you're talking to the Democrats because that's what we're doing here. That is something that is
Starting point is 00:23:59 the left. That's something that is extremely hard to do to speak to every single group within the Latino community, just like it would be hard to speak to every single particular type of black person. And it's something that the other side doesn't do
Starting point is 00:24:17 and specifically didn't have. to do in this election because people chose themselves or the economy over identity. And I'm not saying that that's necessarily right. I'm just saying that I don't think that that's, that I think that maybe what you're saying is what we should aim for. I just don't know if that's possible to do to be able to effectively speak to every single group within a bigger group and that will help the party figure things out. I, I just, just don't think that that's the answer. Okay, so here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:24:53 There's an idea that people chose the economy over identity, right? That they chose themselves in the economy over identity. They really didn't, though. And the reason why I say that is because even if they
Starting point is 00:25:10 think they were choosing the economy, they actually weren't. Because their belief that they were choosing the economy, in the economy, was it based in any actual data? Like, the actual data says that the tariffs raise, that the tariffs have all types of poor economic outcomes. Actual data says that it's going to cost $88 billion per one million people that you deport.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Actual data says a lot of things that, to me, would make someone go, even if we are in a situation where things are a little inflationary or the economy is growing at a rate that's a little bit slower, choosing someone who has policies that add so much money to the deficit that put in peril of social security that in and in of themselves have the potential to be inflationary when you talk about tariffs. Even Elon Musk was on tape saying that Trump's policies at least initially
Starting point is 00:26:17 are going to cause a great deal of consternation to the American middle class. He's on, that's, that's on tape. It's on tape, it's out there, nobody care. So the problem is, it's not that these people made, in my opinion, an informed choice based upon what was real.
Starting point is 00:26:38 They made an ill-informed choice based upon what they believed. And that to me signals, but that signals a message issue racial. Correct. I agree with you. Right. And so if that's the case, then, first of all, I don't think it's that difficult to, if the Democrats have this broad, this broad or this diverse, a power structure,
Starting point is 00:27:04 then have your Puerto Ricans, talk to Puerto Rican people, have your Cubans, talk to Cuban people, have your black Southern Americans, talk to black Southern Americans, have your black boule elitists from these Ivy League people, talk to the money people, have like actually put some effort into who's speaking to who so that the cultural translation is consistent. Because the reality is you might have a bunch of people from South Baton Rouge who look at an Ivy League educated black Democrat
Starting point is 00:27:38 from the Northeast and go, that's not me. So the question would be is, Why are you leaving it up to that person to talk to them, right? Even if they are at the top of your ticket. And by the way, I'm not saying that Democrats don't do this. But what I'm saying is that because there's so much diversity in their constituency, in their base, then there needs to be a little bit more diversity in the way that they go out and do this stuff. And though we're the good guys, part of it is just not going to work anymore.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Because in the Internet age, it's too hard to tell the good guys. from the bad guys. I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I don't know if it necessarily answers with if you need people who look like people or understand people or, yeah, that to speak to a certain group of people to be effective, then why were the Republicans so effective
Starting point is 00:28:32 with people who didn't look like them? I think whether it's, they voted for the wrong person who would help them or not, the truth is their perception was reality. They believed that they were voting in the best interest for to help themselves better to have a better economy. I read the statistic about the plus 15 with people who don't pay attention to the news outlets. So where they're getting their information, I don't know. But the thought is that they believed that they were bettering their lives, they were voting for somebody who would better their lives and their economy.
Starting point is 00:29:06 I agree with you with the, and I was saying cause of death when you were asking me, but I should probably be. deem that as contributing factors to the cause of death, and then, you know, you can use erosion and the other thing that you said. But I believe a contributing factor to the cause of death is the Democrats, and it is their messaging. I still believe that people voted for themselves in the economy over voting for some of the issues that the Democrats were pushing forward as primary issues that they thought that the American public would buy into. Abortion and democracy. People were voting for themselves and for the economy. And I think that the Democrats lost that, lost the vision in that and never really connected with people. So I guess my whole thing, what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:29:55 is I lost a little of this because I know our signal messed up is that it wasn't an idea that they were voting for economy over identity. That is what they were voting for, even if they got it wrong. The contributing factor, go ahead. You're missing me, though. I'm not saying that they didn't vote for the economy. I'm saying if they voted for the economy, it wasn't a smart vote. They voted for a perception rather than a reality. In my opinion, and that's something that you can talk about.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Whether or not Trump's going to be better for the economy or whatever how ever many different business journals Wharton schools that need to tell you about what's going to happen to the middle class of the country
Starting point is 00:30:33 under four more years of the Trump presidency. I think this is actually the crux of the conversation. Sure. It's about what people what I'm saying is I get what people think they voted for. Now, the issues
Starting point is 00:30:49 on the left that they try to make into their entire message in terms of abortion and democracy, you're right. Those things didn't resonate as much
Starting point is 00:31:07 as they should. of talk about the economy. And even, Rachel, to be honest with you, non-issues, culture war issues, the most significant ad that they ran was the they-them ad, right? The they-them ad,
Starting point is 00:31:24 we're talking about percentages that people were moving. There's something that, like, they talked, they polled men, and Donnie find this, they pulled men or people in Wisconsin or different swing states, and they would say the ad was moving people around
Starting point is 00:31:37 at like 2% or something. like that. Like not 2% actual voting numbers, but when they looked at the actual impact that the ad had, it was a very impactful act. And those things are very simple. Like, so. Because they didn't combat it. Right. They didn't combat it. I don't even know how they would have. Right. I don't even know how they would have combated it. They made the decision not to combat it. They probably should have combated it in some way. But when I'm, I'm not necessarily saying that the perception of the economy is not what people voted on. Certainly it was. What I'm saying is they didn't vote on any truths about the economy. They voted on their feeling of economic angst, which is a very real
Starting point is 00:32:23 feeling, right? And then, to me, what is an imaginary remedy to that economic angst, which is giving tax cuts to the rich, and then believing that that money will filter down, right? So if there is a truth, an intellectual truth or an actual real truth to impart upon those people to gain their votes and their support, the Democrats weren't able to do it. And one reason why they weren't able to do it in my opinion is because they weren't able to get granular enough in the way that they message to people. They weren't able to touch people a little bit in some kind of way this version of the Democratic Party is removed. There's too much space between them and the average voting American. And that is clear. For whatever reason that that is, that is clear. How do you
Starting point is 00:33:14 remedy that is my situation? And you do that to me by breaking your coalition apart a little bit in the messaging and not thinking that you can put all of these different people, the trans people, the black guy from South Carolina, the white woman from outside of Virginia in the suburbs, the Ivy League educated person, the Jewish American, that you can put all of these people into one trough and then message to them in the exact same way. They have different wants, different needs, and you have to talk to them in some different ways.
Starting point is 00:33:50 That's all I'm really trying to say. So do you think that that works for the Republicans because the Democrats just didn't do it at all? It works for the Republicans because their message is so simple. Their message is a very simple, But their message is a simple message also because their electorate is a lot more homogenous. Their electorate is simply,
Starting point is 00:34:17 it's a lot of people who live one way and a lot of people who believe in that way of living. No, no, no. That's not what I'm saying. I get that part. What I'm saying is I am going to group statistically. You had more Latinos as a whole vote for president Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Same with Native America, baby. These people, these people don't, are not the same as the majority of the party. And my point is, is some, my question is,
Starting point is 00:34:48 are you, they didn't change their message to specifically tailor to them. They just spoke about the economy. And my question is, do you think that
Starting point is 00:34:58 if the Democrats did what you're saying, then it would have been able to combat them because the Republicans did not do that. Yet people, yet the iPod
Starting point is 00:35:05 community came out in record numbers voting for them. The Republicans... And they didn't tailor their message specifically. I know, but the Republicans are, their message is different, though. Their message, they have less to do. Their message is different. Their message is, like, literally, sometimes the message is, we don't want boys playing girls sports.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And everybody goes, I get that. What else you got? Like, literally, it goes, literally the messages sometimes, like, that simple. We don't want boys playing girls sports. all right, I'm listening now. What else you got? And it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what else you have. They'll be like, oh, okay, you seem like a more common sense party. You seem like a more common sense party. It's easier for me to believe what you're saying because these truths that I believe in and I agree with are so unassailable that if you're common sense on that, you must be common sense on the way that the economy works.
Starting point is 00:36:02 And what I'm saying is what I'm saying, okay, go ahead. What I'm saying is with the Democrats, number one, you have to get some people out. And number two, you have to talk about why your way works and why the other way doesn't work, doesn't work. And to me, that means that you have to send people out to talk to those people that they're willing to hear from. Because the message is a little bit more complicated. Well, I think it wasn't even that their message was complicated. I just don't think that they focused on it. And it goes back to, I didn't list the reasons for the contributing factor to the cause of death
Starting point is 00:36:41 in the way that the Democrats contributed to the cause of death. But when I go back to before November 5th, nothing we were really talking about was about the economy. Yes, Kamala Harris had a policy. Yes, they would talk about. how the economy is better under Joe Biden. You know, he's improved things, but we always talked about the messaging and how it didn't resonate.
Starting point is 00:37:13 I don't think that there's anything that the Democrats did to really focus on that. It was, as we were saying, reproductive rights and the democracy. You should be so scared of what a presidency looks like under Donald Trump, that that should run you to the polls rather than really speaking to what the people needed.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I think, and I've seen this written out before, but I don't know if you really addressed it, this podcast, that one of the biggest mistakes, and she was in a rock and a hard place, I don't know if there was a way that she actually could have done this, but it is something that needed to be done. If the American people felt so strongly that the economy is, that inflation is up, the economy is not getting better, and they felt hopeless under the current administration, Kamala Harris had to separate her. herself from the current administration. I remember you said on this podcast, the strongest messaging that the Republicans have is that they tie Kamala Harris to Joe Biden and the belief that his administration is not helping the American people. I don't know if the Republicans effectively did that, but that is exactly what the people felt. And Kamala Harris, again, I don't know if she could do that, but she didn't do that. And so they were, if you couldn't separate her from the current economy and the way that people filled, and there was no way that any messaging that she did was going to be able to combat that. One, I don't think that they really did combat,
Starting point is 00:38:42 really push the economy forward, but her being tied to Joe Biden and his administration was the Nell in the coffin. There was, she never separated herself from it. She never spoke to it. She never really, really spoke to, I'm, I have a different policy. This is how you will feel from me and it is different from how you feel right now under Joe Biden. But what you're talking about is messaging them. Yeah, no, I know. Right. And so it's all messaging.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Because the reality is, is the economy is our economy is far better post-COVID than most other world economies. Our inflation is lower post-COVID than most other major world economies. Our bounce back in terms of job growth and things of that nature has been better post-COVID than most other world economies. The inflationary effects of the pandemic were felt worldwide, and it's a problem worldwide. And the United States has fared far better than a lot of the other competing nations in inflation post-COVID. Those are things that you have to create value for. The reason why I say that it's messaging is because she was asked straight away by Sunny Austin, what she would do differently
Starting point is 00:40:01 in her administration than Joe Biden and she said she can't think of anything that she would do differently. She should have thought of some stuff that she would do differently. And the reality is, even if it wasn't stuff
Starting point is 00:40:14 that she would do differently, even if it wasn't a yes, but it should have been a yes and. Like, yes, Joe Biden is doing a great job, but I think we need to go further in this. Not that I would do something, differently than Joe Biden in the next four years necessarily. I would go further in doing this.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I'm going to ramp up efforts to do this. I'm going to take what we've been able to do. And now that we have a sure of footing, I'm not telling the vice president how to talk. I'm just saying that the answer that she gave to so many people wasn't very sufficient. Particularly when we've had a president that hasn't been able to speak to his own accomplishments in a charismatic way for the last three and a half. years. So you have someone that can't toot his own whore in the best. You have a very real feeling that people are feeling. And you also have nonstop messaging coming from some of the biggest
Starting point is 00:41:10 platforms in the world about what's wrong with your country. And the reality is that it's all about what you were, she should have been able to say, hey, we've created these people just didn't listen to the things that were being said because they were like, okay, well, I don't feel great now. and being with her means, I might not feel great a year from now. The question is, do you feel better now than you did in 2022? Do you feel better now than you did in 23 and 21?
Starting point is 00:41:40 Did you feel better now coming into a situation post-COVID where we were all inside. The economy was growing very slowly. You couldn't even get you. I could have ran on chicken tenders in this race. I'm serious. Do you want to hear how I could have ran on chicken tenders?
Starting point is 00:41:59 Please, please let us know. So this is going to sound very stupid. There was a time when I would go to the movies. I would go to the AMC theater and I will go to the theater and it would say the chicken tenders not available. And I'd be like, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:42:24 They only had the impossible chicken tenders. That's all they have. The other chicken tenders were not available. The possible chicken nuggets aren't that bad. As a matter of fact, they're not. They didn't have the real chicken tenders. And I keep asking, I'm like, you know, man, why is every place that I'm going, they're running out of chicken tenders? They don't have the tenders that I like to eat. And they don't have chicken wings in different places and stuff like that. There was a supply chain issue, an actual real supply chain issue
Starting point is 00:43:00 here in America because of dysfunction from everything that was happening that was stopping them from being able to stock the chicken tenders. That is dystopian. It's dystopian when you want to go
Starting point is 00:43:14 to the movies and like get some chicken tenders to watch your movie with and they don't have them because the supply chains aren't working efficiently enough to deliver some fucking chicken tenders to the movie thing.
Starting point is 00:43:27 If I'm sitting up there and if you're asking me to run, I'm saying, look, in 2022, let me tell you how bad things were. I used to go to the movies and I used to want a little creature comfort like chicken tenders. I used to want chicken tenders to watch the movie with and you couldn't even buy any fucking chicken tenders. That's how bad the world. I understand how bad things got.
Starting point is 00:43:48 We couldn't go outside. We couldn't be with our families. We couldn't go to work and we couldn't eat chicken tendons. I want you to go to the movies now. a lot of these supply chain issues that we were dealing with, we figured them out. And we worked with governments and other places to figure them out and we're coming back to some semblance
Starting point is 00:44:08 of normalcy. And it's not just chicken tenders. It's all of these other things that are better now than they were. And this is why they're like that. But that's very simple to me. But that's not what they tried to do. It didn't really do that. And really Joe Biden couldn't really make that case because I'm,
Starting point is 00:44:26 I don't know if Joe Biden can chew the chicken timbers. Okay. So, so, so I'm just saying it's like, why are you taking shots at Joe? Why are you taking shots at Joe Biden? This is Joe's fault. Why are you taking shots of Joe Biden? And this is why,
Starting point is 00:44:40 this is why you bring your own food to the movie theater, so you don't have these problems. Now, I like the chicken tennis. I bring, I bring a big purse and I bring a sandwich. Oh, you wanted them. I am. You one of them. I remember, like, well,
Starting point is 00:44:54 when Woolworth was still a thing, when Woolworth was holding on. By the way, we let Woolworth slide for far too long in this country. Every single fucking sitting in America took place of the Woolworths. Woolworths was the biggest one, and they had the soda found him,
Starting point is 00:45:10 but Woolworth was racist as fuck, man. Shout out to Woolworths for being racist. Every time you go to a Woolworth in the South, it's like, hey, this used to be the Woolworths, and this is where six niggas from Black School A&T got pelons.
Starting point is 00:45:26 melted with eggs, 1961. Every single one, every Woolworths. Anyway, you go to Woolwurst, you get your host. I like the snacks at the movies. It's part of the experience. It tastes better when it comes from the movies. All right, we got to get back to the patient. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Well, the patient is death. We've determined the cause of death. Last one, last one. Predispositions. Do you have any presidispositions that the patient had? You were talking about some predispositions before because I mean
Starting point is 00:45:59 go ahead I feel like that was our entire podcast last time right you can't I know all these people are like I've seen a lot of like oh everybody wants to focus make this personal and talk about
Starting point is 00:46:14 you know the identity of Kamala Harris well it's true like you can't you can't discuss it without talking about sexism and racism it's just a thing particularly I've seen people use the example of the state of North Carolina who elected a Democrat as their governor, I think an attorney general, and another office, but then they voted the state overall voted for Trump.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Well, I guarantee you that those people who won were not both black and a woman. So you can't take, you know, the sexism and racism out of this. So I think those were some of the predisposition, I guess, fact. in regards to, no, the deceased. So here's the thing about all of that when I'm looking at the deceased. I don't have any, I have anecdotal evidence for this.
Starting point is 00:47:19 I was talking to somebody yesterday. And I don't want to over simplify it in terms of she's black, she was woman, people didn't vote for it. I don't want to say that. They didn't. No, but those are, that's part of the, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:47:34 No, go ahead. They're detective. It's you. No, no, I'm done. No. So. I said it all last to my podcast. So this is the interesting part to me.
Starting point is 00:47:47 We are focusing on sometimes the people who didn't vote for her because she was black and she was a woman, right? But there's something else. I talk to somebody having a long conversation with them yesterday about things that they weren't really that well-versed. because we're going to talk maybe briefly about some decisions that Trump has already made that's going to affect you niggas.
Starting point is 00:48:21 We're going to see if you niggas care. Okay. I was talking to someone and they said to me, they said, you know, I don't really vote. I don't really vote. Like, you know, as I was telling you, I don't really know politics.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I don't really vote. Because like the one time I voted, I voted for Barack Obama. He got that one free vote. You know, black man. running, I had to give him that vote. And I was like, well, then why didn't she get it? So forget about who actually didn't vote for her because she is black and a woman. There should be better reasons to vote for a candidate. Shouldn't be all about identity.
Starting point is 00:49:05 It should be about policy. It should be about record, all those things. But there are a group of people that ran out and voted for Barack Obama because he was black that did not do the same. thing with Kamala Harris. Now, it's an interesting conversation and not an open-and-shelf conversation. Maybe those people realize that voted for a candidate, specifically because they were black, doesn't really move the needle much in terms of
Starting point is 00:49:26 what you get from that candidate. Maybe they were burned by President Obama. That's an interesting conversation to have. Maybe those people are better or more, they think themselves more better or more politically
Starting point is 00:49:42 with it. Now, after they voted for a candidate based off identity and it didn't move anything. Or maybe woman means more than black. Or maybe black woman means the most. Maybe there's a difference. And just like we should be willing, just like we should be willing to say,
Starting point is 00:50:05 hey, maybe people realize that voting for someone specifically based on identity didn't really do much for him for President Obama, which I think President Obama was a decent president. It was a good president. A really good president. Just like we can have that conversation, maybe those people learned that that was a thing.
Starting point is 00:50:28 We should also be able to have the conversation about whether or not they just don't feel the same way about black women leading them than a black man. We should be able to have both conversations. And both conversations are important. Because I asked that question, I was like, well, if he got it because he was black and you came out to be a part of that, did you not want to be the same type of participant in the first black
Starting point is 00:50:52 woman being elected to the presidency? Does that history mean less to you than the history in O.A? I'm saying that you should vote because of that. But I'm saying if you did, if you did vote because of that and you didn't vote that way now, yeah. Yep. All right. So that's the pre-disposition. Black women, the whole thing, we don't know. Oh, summary of reflection on the patient here. This patient's gone.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I love this. Love this. I do love it. Summer reflection on the patient here. The patient's gone. Things will change. What do, what does the left do? There's going to be a lot of money dumped into a lot of places.
Starting point is 00:51:52 There's going to be a lot of money dumped into a lot of places. There's going to be a lot of talk about a lot of different stuff. What does the left do? Or do they say, fuck it, we ball. Seat the country to them, have as much fun, and just watch it as the monuments burn down. What do we do? Just have a drink while the empire falls. I do think there is some hope where the I told you soes are going to want to come out.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And any time, for example, some of the things that, you know, Trump is doing this weird thing where he's standing in front of whatever the background is and giving out these orders and talking about what he's going to do. I think some people relish in that and are like, well, you know, we told you, this is what you voted for, this is what you're going to get, and hope that it's so bad that people come running back to them. But the problem with that is if you just sit and wait for things to implode with the hope that people come running back to you, what are you really fixing and are you really addressing the needs of the people, somebody is going to have to step up in leadership within the party.
Starting point is 00:52:56 And that leader is going to have to try to bring this party together because the party is very split. We've talked about it before on this podcast. The party's split. You've already got infighting, it's not even infighting, publicly fighting, calling out. You've got, you know, the independents or the left calling out Democrats for, you know, not listening to the people, accusing them of ignoring the working class. I don't know if you saw this, AOC, and shout out to one of our thought warriors. Sorry, I don't have her name pulled up,
Starting point is 00:53:27 who sent me an article about how AOC asked her her constituents who voted for her to say why they voted for her and for Donald Trump. That's the kind of pulse that we need. You voted for me, but then why did you also vote for this person who's so anti what I represent? There needs to be listening. There needs to be what you pointed to at the beginning,
Starting point is 00:53:51 like dissecting the party and addressing particular cultures and ethnicities, you know, within the party. There's got to be some of that. You've got to go back, I think, to the basic boots on the ground, understand what it is actually, like who your party is and what it is that they want. Or not even just your party. What the people want and try to bring them back to the values of whatever it is that your party represents.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Until you do that, and I think you have to humble yourself to do that. I think there's a lot of elitism that exists within these both parties. But I think to get back, people are in 2024 are sick of that. And they want to feel that you feel them. They want to feel that you understand them
Starting point is 00:54:39 and that you're about them. And if not, they're not fucking with you, period. So whatever you have to do to bring yourself down to the people and understand what they need, that's the only way this is going to work. And maybe that's a dismantling of the party.
Starting point is 00:54:57 You got to get down with us. Okay, well, there's a couple things that have to happen here. Number one, I would take this. Worst say, well saying. Number one, you don't have to pretend like certain things aren't true. I had a back and forth on Twitter when someone was saying
Starting point is 00:55:11 that Americans are sick of being called, racist and the reason why the Democrats continue to lose or they haven't continued to lose. The reason why the Democrats got there, I just skipped the last week was because Americans are sick of being called racist and all that stuff. If I have to
Starting point is 00:55:29 live in an America where I ignore the racial realities and the racial history of the country to make you guys feel okay, you can have it. I'm not doing that. Okay? I'm not doing it now. I'll never do it. Okay? I'm not doing it now. I'm never doing it. I'm not saying that everybody,
Starting point is 00:55:45 the world has to. I'm not saying that the people that are running have to get mired into all of this. I'm not saying any of that. I'm saying I'm not doing that. That's not for me. Okay. Number two. I will say this though. There is a part of the way that we have this conversation that I think needs to change. They seem stronger than us because they seem less encumbered by every single problem in the world. Right? That's a great point. Like, it's, they seem like they have their eyes on the prize as a very simple goal. We police our language so much. We police our interactions so much.
Starting point is 00:56:27 We police our associations so much. There is a purity test that clearly doesn't work. You guys, I've been trying to say this to you. You think that I'm bullshit you. There's a purity test that clearly doesn't work. it's clearly turning Americans off, right? It's clearly turning people off for people to say, hey, you're trash, you're this, you're that, you're this.
Starting point is 00:56:52 I'm not saying that you guys, that it's not coming from the right place. Of course, you want to represent the best of what you think a good society looks like. Of course, you want to have a friend group that is curated and meticulously choreographed in what they say and do. You don't want to be with the bad people.
Starting point is 00:57:14 You don't want to be with the trash people. You don't want to be with the people that represent all of the bad ideas. The reality is if, in fact, only one side is talking and talking loudly, then you are going to lose. If you're too good for the conversation, then you're not in it. That's just the way that it works. If you're too good for the conversation, if you're too cured for the conversation, if you're too admirable, driven as the pure as the driven snow. If you're too good for the discussion
Starting point is 00:57:48 and for the conversation, you're just, you're not in it. They're having it amongst themselves. And there's capture there. There's capture there that exists. And you're not, you're not going to mean girl your way out of racism, discrimination, and inequity. You're not.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Grow to fuck up. Like grow up. Like you're not going to do it. You're silencing the conversation to be had. It's still being had only you're not there. It's not going to work. So like let's everybody breathe. We don't have to invite everybody to our parties.
Starting point is 00:58:36 We don't have to be friends with everyone. We don't have to do all of that stuff. I'm not saying all of that. But I am saying in a conversation about American values and American ideals and what worse and what doesn't work, they have to see
Starting point is 00:58:50 that you're willing to fight. They have to see that you're willing to be in the middle of it. And I just think that we got away from that. And we just, we got away from it.
Starting point is 00:59:01 So we'll see what happens now, but I'll tell you what, L.A. County Corner, Van Latham. I like this lap, Detective, Detective Rachel Lindsay signing out. Yeah, well,
Starting point is 00:59:22 until the next case. Well, until the next case, we have more podcasts to do. But, yeah, we... Well, I meant signing out of the case, Van. I know. I mean, detective, by the way, you bring me the cases. Okay. You are the...
Starting point is 00:59:38 Okay, case closed. Thank you. Thank you. You declared case closed, and I'm a coroner, so I'm a weirdo, because I think coroners are like, I don't know. Like pathologists, yeah, forensic... Am I a coroner, though? Because the coroner is like...
Starting point is 00:59:53 You want to be a forensic pathologist. Or who's the guy in the board that looks over the people? Well, you mean, do you the guy who does the autopsy is a pathologist. That's a pathologist. That's a pathologist.
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Starting point is 01:01:02 So visit Spectrum.com slash business to learn more. Restrictions apply. Services not available in all areas. Real quick. Trump's plans, he is president-elect Trump. It looks like Stephen Miller will serve as White House deputy chief of staff. Wow. Nikki Haley, Mike Pompeo, you got fucked.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Hope it was worth it, Nikki. At least Stefani is going to be his pick for U.S. ambassador. Yikes! Now, let me say something about that, guys. A lot of people who probably voted because they were upset
Starting point is 01:01:51 about what happened and what is happening the genocide and Palestine, a lot of people were upset about that, they voted, hey, not quarreling with you to punish the Democrats in different places
Starting point is 01:02:14 because of that. I'm not saying that it was in mass. I'm saying that a lot of people didn't vote or couldn't vote, I get it. Stefanic has been one of Israel's number one defenders and attackers in Congress.
Starting point is 01:02:34 She is the one who was going dead at the presidents of the universities. Yeah, that's when she came on my radar.
Starting point is 01:02:51 That's when she came on the radar. Staunch, staunch, staunch, Blame on January 6th on Nancy Pelosi. Blame on Nancy Pelosi. She's going to go to represent the United States
Starting point is 01:03:06 to be you a we should start a segment where we i guess trump is rolling out these videos on things he plans to do and as we're seeing him nominated we should we should have like trump watch or trump something where we let you guys know because i think a lot of times and maybe not our listeners necessarily but maybe this is something you from this segment you can take and give it to some of the other people who aren't necessarily paying attention but we i think it is important in responsibility to pay attention to who he's appointing, who they are, what they stood for during the Biden administration, like around the January 6th time when Trump was in office.
Starting point is 01:03:50 And then I think we also need to roll out some of the things that he's talking about implementing or that he actually does. We need to do Trump watch because it's important that you guys pay attention as your rights potentially and probably will diminish. Trump has also, according to New York Times, the Trump administration has vowed to roll back some of the environmental protections for underserved communities that Joe Biden had established by executive order.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Just want you guys to listen to this really quickly. Trump won on Tuesday. By Thursday, it was reported by the New York Times and a Biden executive order that established both clean energy incentives
Starting point is 01:04:47 in terms of jobs and stuff are underserved for black communities, basically. And 40% of the thrust and the, I'll say this again, Don't take this again. I'm saying it must simply.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Joe Biden had created executive order. The executive order was to have environmental justice. Environmental justice means this. Easily. Clean water, clean air, taking the lead out of stuff for black kids underserved people. That's what it means, basically. Environmental justice.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Environmental justice means that black kids get clean stuff. literally the same week the Donald Trump won he said it would probably be scrapped they're scrapping it they're scrapping it too woke don't listen
Starting point is 01:05:52 this is not too woke it's part of a woke agenda clean water for black kids clean air for black kids to pay attention to that too woke doesn't help the economy
Starting point is 01:06:08 that's too woke they're getting rid of that. Now, how do you go to be black? I'm sorry, bro. I'm sorry, man. How do you go to be black? And tell me, you got a problem with black kids having clean air and water. Or there being a special attention paid upon black children for clean air and water because they live in places where their environments are all fucked up.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Why would you do, why would you undo that? It's not about race, though. It's not about that. Wait, he also announced Tom, is it Haman or Homan? Homan? He will join his administration to oversee the border control. He will be the border czar. Yeah, I saw him.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Former acting head of ice. Yeah, he's mean. We'll see what happens. Oh, by the way, when they do all these mass deportations that they've said that they're going to do in the first 100 days, they're going to send the police into your neighborhoods. don't even have it staffed enough to where they would be able to have enough federal agents
Starting point is 01:07:27 to go in there and do this. They're going to have to bring the police the police are going to have to do some of this stuff. The police are going to come into your neighborhoods. And good luck with the cops knowing whether or not you're a black American
Starting point is 01:07:41 here. Good luck if you are a black Latino walking around and the cops stop you. You want to live with me to MAGA. Let's see if it works.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Okay. I just want to say this man is behind the controversial family separation policy. 5,500 children of immigrants were separated from their parents at the border. This is 2018 under the zero tolerance policy. And as of April of this year, 1,400 children are without confirmed reunification. He says he doesn't matter anymore because he said there's a way to get by. deporting children and separating families. Did you hear what he said?
Starting point is 01:08:29 Tom? Yeah. Tom. What do you say? He said, just deport the whole family. Oh, no. Okay. That's what you say.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Let's just cut. He said, just deport the whole family. Deport the whole family. Mass deportation is going to be right now. Learn from the first administration, fixing it in the second administration. That's an example of it. Oh, that didn't work this time? Great.
Starting point is 01:08:53 This is what we're going to do this time. Got it. Real quick, non-politics. Donnie laughed, I think, earlier when I said this. Michelle Beal said the N-word. This is funny to me. Okay. Did she say, let's let people decide.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Let's let people decide whether or not Michelle Beatle said the N-word. Michael Porter Jr. recently said, oh, I don't like this. That if the niggas, the nuggets, don't wait. That was a good way. Don't try to get me on that. They might have to break up the team.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Lou, are you buying that this is the last dance for the Denver Nuggets. Nuggets. Oh, bye. Bita, you're going to be in trouble today. That's not fair. It's not even a thing. It's not even a word. I would like it. You would love that. Anyways. Rachel, in order or not? What's the bird? I believe she said niggots. Niggots.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Niggots. Nickets, nuggets, nuggets. So I listen to it a lot. she said it so fast, it could go either way. But then when she's like, that's not even a word, I was like, okay, I think she said niggots. It was a really good, I thought she handled it well and recovered it well. I laughed.
Starting point is 01:10:07 I laughed more at Lou's response to it when he was like, you're going to be in trouble today. This isn't one of those situations where I'm just going to harp on. I mean, a lot of people were like, she should be fired. No, it's not a big deal. It's not that big of a deal. I don't think that there was any ill-intention. I'm not going to be one of those people.
Starting point is 01:10:28 I hate to when people are like, well, that just rolled off her tongue easily. I mean, it might, she might say it. We don't know. But in this moment, in this moment, I'm not going to call for her firing or saying she, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:45 No, what? No. But a lot of people learn. I know. I've seen it. Lou Will is there. Lou Will is doing the whole thing. And first of all, shout out to Lou Will.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Lou Will is doing such a great job in all of his different media incarnations right now. Lou Will is doing a great job. Shout out to Lou Will. I'll say this. I often, when I'm around white people, I try to guess their number. I try to guess based upon we talked about this, right? I try to guess based upon their life experience, their love for hip hop,
Starting point is 01:11:27 their overall aura, how many times they've said to N-word? We've talked about this. First of all, if you ask a white person how many times they've said the N-word in life, if they say a number under 200, it's a minimum of 1,000 that they've said it. Okay, because there's no reason to lie. This is also based off of nothing.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Van's own thing. Based off of nothing. It's based off of something. If it's under 200, that means they said it over a thousand times. If you meet a white person and you go, it's such a fun question to ask. And you go, how many times have you said the N-word in your entire life? And they go, if they say, if they say, I've never even said it, they in the Ku Klux claim. Okay? Yeah, you've all said.
Starting point is 01:12:15 If they say I've never said it in your head or. If they say I've never said it, if they say I've never said it, they're the Grand Dragon of the Bakersfield chapter of the Ku Klux Klan. Okay. Grandsville. You're lying.
Starting point is 01:12:30 All right. Why is it a dragon? They got wizards and dragons. Is the Ku Klux Klan trying to get into Lord of the Rings? I thought it was wizard. Oh, no, they got dragons. I didn't know there was a grand dragon. The Ku Klutz Klan had.
Starting point is 01:12:49 has wizards, they got dragons. Do they have ogres in the clan? They definitely got dragons. You see it? They got dragons. You just looked it up. It's dragons. Well, you can...
Starting point is 01:12:59 KKK Grand Dragons, it lists the names. It lists them under Wicked. Roll off some of the names of the Grand Dragons and the KKK. Lillard William Armstrong was a grand dragon of the White Nights of the Tennessee KKK. Lewis Bean. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Don Black, Walter Bosser, Daniel Carter. Don Black is a famous dragon. Yeah, yeah. It says in parentheses. It says in parentheses, Don Black, white supremacists. David Duke. Don Black is a famous dragon. David Duke.
Starting point is 01:13:35 David Duke, Dragon. Dragon. Yeah. Nathan Bedford Forrest, the second. Yeah. You know who he knows who's named after him, right? names after him? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:52 I know, wait, who was named after Nathan Bedford? I know who Nathan Bedford is. Nathan Bedford Forrest. Who was named after him? Oh, I bet Donnie knows. Donnie, who was named after Nathan Bedford Forrest? Forrest, Forrest Dump, from Greenbow, Alabama? Oh, not a movie question.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Yep, Forrest Gump, named after Nathan Bedford Forrest. Who wrote Forrest Gump? David Duke. Okay, I was going to say, whatever name you gave me, their name was listed on here, too, is what I was going to say. So thank you for bringing that full circle. Edmund Pettus. Edmund Pettus. A grand dragon.
Starting point is 01:14:38 A grand dragon. Grand dragon. I was going to say they've got grand dragons that they've got grand dragons that they've been. got Grand Titans, grand giants. They've got goblins. What's the hierarchy? Hey, bro.
Starting point is 01:14:53 I need a charge. I need a charge. I'm sorry, I got to say something, but somebody's going to say something, we got to bring somebody from the KKK on. I got to say something, bro. Y'all not going to like this, man. Boy, these niggas dick's dicks so little, bro.
Starting point is 01:15:08 But these niggas dicks are so little, dog. Like, he, they call me a toton, a dragon. Like, they got, they, brad. These guys are, whatever. Okay, that's fine. KKK tangent, I'm sorry. So Grand Dragon is an old name, and it later became Grand Wizard. Oh, so Wizard dragon, dragon led to Wizard.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Allegedly. All right, all I'm saying is this. The N-word number is a fun game to play with your wife friends. You look it up. It's a good way to make them uncomfortable, too. It's very funny. How many times have you said to it in-word? in your life. And then you look at them. And, you know, sometimes you get little things that tell you
Starting point is 01:15:51 people have a healthy number, whether it's hip hop or whatever. A healthy number. Whether it's hip hop or whatever, you know. But this is not that big of a deal. No, it's not. It's not. It's not that big deal. It's like, it's funny. You slip up, whatever, whatever. It would have been fun. It would have been fucked up if she'd have been saying it to Lou will. If she'd have been, if she'd have fucked up that way, it would have been, but it's not that. Not that big of a deal. Plus, I feel like we have bigger things to be upset about it. This episode is brought to you by Sweet Green.
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Starting point is 01:18:00 Okay. He went viral, responded to a tweet, asking him which black women he supported. They had a picture of his four daughters up there. And then he responded to it with a video, one of those little videos where you have the picture and then you put your face in the video. And he was talking about people
Starting point is 01:18:20 who were questioning the race of his four black daughters. I just had a tweet go into Galaxia. I'm tactical because I said my four daughters are black. What's wrong with that? Nothing. But let's talk about it. This whole thing started on November 6th when I tweeted, Black men do support Black women.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Stop tearing down and blaming black men for everything under the sun when it comes to black women. Although a lot of people agreed with me, ooh, this made a lot of other people very, very upset. There were a lot of, what do you mean by that? With the number one thing being said was, who can't say that, sir? because you married a white girl.
Starting point is 01:18:59 As if marrying someone outside your race means you can't drop facts. Like, is marrying someone outside your race a bad thing? No, it's not a bad thing. Love knows no colors, and that's what we should be preaching instead of divisiveness. So what are those facts?
Starting point is 01:19:11 It is a universally well-known fact that black men love they mamas. Last time I checked, a black mama is a black woman, right? On a serious note, studies have shown that black fathers are more involved in their kids' lives than any other racial group.
Starting point is 01:19:24 You know that prevailing myth that black fathers are absent all the time is false. Now what is true is that only 36% Yeah. Why is he talking like that? Why is he? Why is he talking like that?
Starting point is 01:19:37 That's the, see, this is the thing about RG3. Like, what he's saying in this video, first of all, you should not be saying that his daughter's not black. Correct. You shouldn't. Correct. Those are black ladies that he's raising.
Starting point is 01:19:51 They're black women. And you should be applauding the fact that he is identifying them as black and not trying to other them and say what they aren't. Because we see that a lot of times too. He's like, these are black women. And I appreciate in this video as well. It's not, I don't always, like, he does a lot.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Okay, he's a lot. And he does a lot of, like, corny behavior. But in this, I agree with everything that he has to say. And the fact that he's talking about how he is taking up for black women, this is what black women ask them. They ask for black men to stand up and take up for them. Throughout this video, he's doing that. And of course he is upset that in return, not all, but some black women, enough to make noise,
Starting point is 01:20:31 enough to be loud enough, are telling him that his children aren't black enough. That's an issue. And the reason I'm saying this, you've just bucked your eyes, is because a lot of times people say that I don't call out black women for things. These black women are wrong. His daughters are black. And they should be ashamed of themselves for a black man who's actually standing up. You got to look past the fact he got a white wife.
Starting point is 01:20:51 You got to look past the fact that he constantly tries to put, force his white, his white, wife on us and and wait wait he does the fact that he tries to force his white wife on us and constantly show us things that are similar to what black women have
Starting point is 01:21:11 okay we got to look past that the fact is he's a black man taking up for black women and recognizing his daughters is black what more could you ask for in that situation and here you go tearing him down we can't do that black women we can't do that okay Rach, first of all, well said.
Starting point is 01:21:27 I'll say this. I said this before. If you are a black man married to a white woman out there, I just want you to know the way they talk about your wife when you're not there. They don't say wife. I said this on a live shirt. Rachel just did it.
Starting point is 01:21:43 They don't say wife. Like, my mom and them would be in the Piggly Wiggly. They would be in the store. And they're like, yeah. I saw James and Piggly Wiggly Wiggly his white wife. We do say. wherever you, when they're describing your wife, I'm just letting y'all know, when they're describing your wife, I'm not saying this right, but especially in the South, when they describe in your wife, what? Yeah, so I'm in the bank. Who's up there with his white boy?
Starting point is 01:22:14 I don't know why we do that. I guess it's a other thing. I don't even notice I did. I didn't even notice I did that. I didn't even notice I said that. I don't know why. But yeah, yeah, yeah. We went up there for. the PTA, did you, yeah, you know, I saw it up there? I saw Carlos up there. Yeah, yeah, he was up there with his white and face. I'd be like, why is he? With his white, white. I was at a table in Houston a couple of weeks ago, and they were talking about
Starting point is 01:22:44 calling all right. And it came up. It was like, it was like, yeah, you know, he out there was, he'd be out there with this, why? She got to be white. Why? This is why. She is,
Starting point is 01:22:58 she? She is. Right. But this is the thing about RG3 here. RG3 got a good message. She always fuck it up, though. Why is he using the Cleveland show voice? Just talk.
Starting point is 01:23:11 RG3 always doing it. He always doing it. He's right. Y'all coming at these kids, these kids are black kids. And it's, they're black kids. What he said about black men is true.
Starting point is 01:23:24 But why are you talking like the Cleveland show, though? I am saying that while I'm wearing a lap coat, though. I was going to say, do you, do you think you inspired him wearing the black hat? He's wearing a black cowboy out in the video. You know, is that? He's from Texas.
Starting point is 01:23:40 So? Yeah, he's from Texas. Not everybody, not everybody's walking around wearing a black cowboy hat from Texas. I don't think I've only seen him in one. Yeah, shout out to RG3. Okay, last thing real quick, before we got out of here. I just want to know what you think about this.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Twitter dad at Reggie Yates. he posted a response to a father's Twitter post a picture of himself and his daughter is a violent there's a guy on Twitter What? Reggie Yates is a woman.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Twitter Reggie Yates is a woman on Twitter and she posted a response to a father's Twitter post picture of himself that's going viral now there's a guy on Twitter and he has always been tweeting
Starting point is 01:24:23 about this is what Reggie says about watching a daughter His most recent I Wanted Daughter tweet was just three years ago. This guy says that he's He wants a daughter. He wants a daughter. He's wanted a daughter for a long time on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:24:41 It turns out he already had a daughter. The daughter is 10 years old. I hate this. I hate all of this. He's been paying child support for the daughter since she was born. The reason he's been absent from the daughter is because he had issues with the mother. Now, this was a big thing.
Starting point is 01:25:06 He had just gone to see the girl, and it was a beautiful picture of this guy with his daughter, and they were hanging out, and he's like, now he's in his daughter's life. She said his fellow African Americans are now calling him the don Donna of Deadmeas. because it was revealed that he lived just three hours away from the child he hasn't seen. He posted a picture from the meet and greet he had with his daughter. His sister's been doing
Starting point is 01:25:36 a lot of stuff to defend him even spilling the fact that his own father was an absent father as well. People are saying, like father or life son. I want to know, Rachel, shut up, Rachel. I want to know what you think about this story. He's in his daughter's life, man. Oh, you don't need to be.
Starting point is 01:25:56 to explain it. Why do we know about this? Let's just start there. We don't need to know. I don't care. I do care that you are involved in your daughter's life now. And so I'm not going to knock you
Starting point is 01:26:16 for the 10 years you weren't there. I mean, like, that's a problem. But I am happy that a young daughter, young girl has her father in her life. And I hope you stay in her life. But man, we didn't need to know. know this. You didn't need to involve this in your business. You definitely
Starting point is 01:26:35 didn't need to post a picture. It's almost as if you wanted validation. I don't know why you were posting. Do you want a hand clap for finally seeing your daughter? Sir, go be with your daughter, spend quality time, make up for the time loss, and continue
Starting point is 01:26:51 to stay in her life and hopefully be a good, you know, role model, presence in her life, whatever. But like, enough. I don't want to hear or see from this man again. his sister. Y'all go be a family. Off the internet. You ever heard about, you ever heard of ball busting before?
Starting point is 01:27:09 Yes. Yes. What do you? Tell me what you know about ball busting. No, I don't. I just said I have. Keep going. No. No. No. Is there a dip? No. No. No. I said I know what it is. Keep it going. Is there, is there more than one definition of, is there more than one definition of ball busting? I want to know which definition of ball busting. I want to know which definition of ball busting. that you're talking about right now because I definitely don't think
Starting point is 01:27:39 that it's the same one I'm talking about. Ball busting is like busting somebody's balls in their balls. It's like a, not literally, but figuratively. Like,
Starting point is 01:27:56 is there more than one definition of ball busting? Like if I'm getting at, if I'm a woman, I'm getting at a man or if I'm somebody getting at a man, like I'm busting them in their balls. Like, I'm getting at them.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Yeah, that's how I'm reading to. I don't. I'm hearing like the, yay, you're breaking my balls, you're busting my balls, that kind of thing. I'm listening. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Yeah. I'm talking about a form of sexual gratification where... Of course he is, Donnie. A man enjoys getting his balls kicked, stonked. Oh my God. She was.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Donnie? Oh my gosh. The woman with heels, mashing on his balls, stomping on his balls, kicking them dead in his balls, and they love it. They love it.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Ball-busting. Busting balls. Getting your balls busted out. They love it. I'm talking about stabbing on his balls. Where are we going with this? I think that sometimes there are people on Twitter
Starting point is 01:29:03 that like to be digitally ball-busting. I think that there are people on Twitter that just like it. They like to be, it's a fetish to get your balls busted on Twitter and have everybody hating on you. Because some of the shit that y'all do
Starting point is 01:29:22 is no fucking way. You've been talking about you on a daughter for three, four years on Twitter. You got a daughter live three hours away from you. You're paying child support, but you can't go play Nintendo. I'm not saying that this guy's a bad person. I don't know what the fuck is going on.
Starting point is 01:29:36 I think what he did was bad by not being in the daughter's life, no matter what happened with the mother, but got so much time left. It could be a beautiful story, and I hope that it is. But to your point, I personally think that he wanted his balls busted on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:29:53 You had to have wanted this, because there's no way you thought a whole Twitter sphere full of people who have some of them who have been through this exact same situation that lived across the street down the way, a town over from their daddy, who probably had a full family was doing all kinds of stuff
Starting point is 01:30:11 that they're not, that they're going to be like, ah, that's cool. I'm glad. Great ending the story right there. Put a ribbon on it. No, you wanted your balls, bus it.
Starting point is 01:30:17 They stepped on your balls. They crushed them. They kicked them. And you liked it. He said, it was a truck driver. So he was used to driving. So three hours
Starting point is 01:30:26 would have finished. Three hours, nothing. It's funny, bro. All right. We got to get out of here, but I'm, I'd be doing a... The next Vanley 10 is coming up next Monday.
Starting point is 01:30:44 It's the top 10 cartoon dogs. I'm doing it for fun. The top 10 dogs of cartoons. Top 10 cartoon dogs. Think about this. It was Boz's birthday not too long ago, and I forgot to celebrate Boz's birthday. Top 10 cartoon dogs.
Starting point is 01:31:00 My little puppy is four. And so I love him. Top two cartoon dogs. Before I leave, I want to say this. I got to give out a quick award, Hater of the week. Heter a week is number three from Auburn. The Auburn basketball team got in the fight on the plane.
Starting point is 01:31:17 And one of the guys involved is one of the biggest haters in basketball. I don't know if I saw this clip, but there's a clip of Auburn. They're playing in the game against a vastly overmatched team. And one of the players, his name is Kelly, is on a heater. He is cooking. I'm talking about one of those ones that you think about years from now, where you just can't miss. If you played a lot of basketball, hopefully you've been through it.
Starting point is 01:31:42 And the funniest thing about the video is his teammate who is in the corner, begging for the ball while he's on the heater. Rachel, did you see in this video? No, I did not. It's like his head slumped over, body language all pure, while this nigga is cooking. And then there was a fight on the Arbentine plane. I did see that. And they had to turn the plane around.
Starting point is 01:32:06 And most people were like, I bet it's that number three. And guess what? Number three was the ball. So shout out to him. He was the one who was cooking or who didn't get the ball. He was the one, no one that was Hayden. I'm talking about. Hayden on this man.
Starting point is 01:32:23 But, hold on, you guys got to see the video. Donnie's got to play the video. He is hating on this man. This man is cooking. There's one, there's one steal from the video where the entire bench is up. Celebrating that this guy has hit another three. They all like, oh, oh. And in the corner, Homeboy just bent over, like, head down.
Starting point is 01:32:45 Hatred. Hatred. Hater of the week. Number three from Auburn. I'm not going to call your name out because you're a young man. You're a good player. I'm sure you'll, but you got to be happy when your teammates is cooking. You got to be happy when your teammates is cooking.
Starting point is 01:33:00 You have to. Because you're a team. All right. You're a team. Jockey, Jockey Howard. Why did you call his name out? You know what they need to turn this into? Remember those sportsmanship commercials?
Starting point is 01:33:23 Remember those commercials they were like, they need to make this into one of those commercials. Here's the ball man. He sees his teammates slumped over there. He looks. The clock ticks down. Five, four, he throws the ball to him. He gives us to his teammate.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Teammate misses air balls in. Sportsmanship. That one sportsmanship commercial, that one sportsmanship commercial, I tell you straight up, if you ever go to the refs and tell the ref you step out with the game on the line,
Starting point is 01:34:00 I will beat your motherfucking ass. Are you crazy? You're Jockey. No, it's going down on the plane. It's going down on the plane. I'll beat your fucking ass. You mean to tell you. me, I didn't burn
Starting point is 01:34:12 all of these caroling was trying to win this game. We didn't call the break. And you're dumbass. You didn't go on over there and told the ref. I was actually out. That's the dumbest commercial
Starting point is 01:34:23 ever made. I'm sorry. That's the type of shit Donnie would do. All right. We're out of here, man. All right. Joy, we're joyful. It's a joyful podcast.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Highlander learning. Okay. We're out of here. Appreciate all the support. You guys will continue to have joy. And Trump Rachel is right. Trump watch has begun.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Trump watch is going to start as Trump transition watch. Trump. Oh, Trump. Trump. I got bad news for you, Donald. You're transitioning. Donald Trump is transitioning right now. Only for a couple of months. Only for a couple of months. Donald Trump is transitioning. He must, watch him come up with a new word. We don't want to be called a transition. This is the first time he's transitioning because he didn't last time. He never accepted it. He never accepted the results. So he never transitioned last year.
Starting point is 01:35:20 This is the first. We have to transition the first time. He didn't transition really. 2016. He had to transition. He accepted. He didn't transition. No, no.
Starting point is 01:35:30 After nah, no, no. He never accepted the results. Okay. Tell him what to do. Take thing capsule, but do not stop learning. I am Van Lytton Jr. And your lap coats. I am Rachel Lindelansey. You like that. Bye, guys.

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