Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay - Jay-Z Returns to Beef With Drake, Plus Trump’s Failed Concert Series

Episode Date: June 2, 2026

Van and Rachel react to Jay-Z’s freestyle at the Roots Picnic, and Donald Trump taking two public L's in the lead-up to his Freedom 250 festival. Plus a check-in on the L.A. mayoral race, and an Atlanta judge and police deputy chief’s noisy sexual encounters get exposed. (0:00) Intro (19:12) Jay-Z freestyle (42:57) Trump cancelling concert (52:27) Removal of Trump’s name from Kennedy Center (1:00:06) Spencer Pratt’s appeal (1:24:47) Courtroom sex affair (1:34:52) The return of Mountain Lion (1:39:30) Give up your section for Lil Baby? Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? Hi, learning is on. It is I. Van Lathen coming in from Los Angeles, California. And it is me, Rachel and Lindsay. You got to tell the people where you are. I know you. Washington, D.C.

In Washington, D.C., you're in our nation's capital. Do you feel patriotic? No. You don't? Did you go to the mall? I came in on the red eye. So you came in on the red eye. to five this morning.

So you came into D.C., but yet you thought that it was okay not to go say hello to Dr. King or Abraham Lincoln. That's correct. So you didn't go say hello to them. You don't care about them. No, I've said hello. I've said hello before. But you didn't feel like to say hello this time. No, I think Dr. King will want me to get my rest.

No, that's not what he will want. That's that. Van. Van. Now, who's being disrespectful now? What? It's disrespectful. That's not disrespectful about keeping the real.

Come on. Come on. Come on. Donnie, that was a good one. Donnie, Donnie. I laughed. It was good. Thank you. Donnie laughed. One point for Van.

One point, because you think Donnie doesn't support you. That's one for Van. Thank you, Donnie. That was a good one. You got it. Okay. Keep it coming. Donnie, be careful now.

Okay. So what Dottie said is your fault. You aren't always funny. You don't always land. That's very true. I think we all know that. So let's check in under WNBA real quick. The Minnesota links, because we haven't talked about the WNBA yet,

the Minnesota links are leading the WNBA at 6 and 2. The Indiana fever are 4 and 4. Yeah, you see the viral clip that's going around? Yeah, I saw it. Four and four. Caitlin doing? What are her stats? So, you know, Caitlin is, okay,

so we can look at the stats here. She had a bad game last game, but there's no way to argue that Caitlin Clark is not having a successful season. She's averaging, I'm looking at it right now, she's averaging 20 points,

eight assists, four rebounds, and 1.3 stills a game. Now, she's shooting 39% from the field. She's shooting 33% from the three. So her shooting statistics are terrible. No one really seems to know why she can't put the ball in the basket anymore.

But also, they're picking on her on defense is the thing. Now, listen, here's the deal. You said some time ago that you feel like you could beat her in a game of one-on-one. I did not say I could beat her. Let's get it right. I said I could hold her to 15. In a whole game.

Yeah, man. That's what I said. I didn't say I could beat her now. the question is... I might not score any points. Well, hold on for a second. I didn't say I could beat her. The question is now not whether or not you could hold her.

The question now is how many are you going to score? Because at this point, she's a cone turnstile. She's like giving up the fucking buckets left and right. Teams are targeting Caitlin Clark. And then they're using the fact that she can't defend to get her out of her game and her rhythm offensively. and that's been very successful for opponents of the fever. So what you're saying is you think I have a chance.

Now I do. Yes. Oh, okay. Well, I think you have a chance to get a mud hole stomped in your ass. Are you nuts? She's going to 100. Are you crazy? I think you have a chance.

100. She's going for 100. If you are the primary defender on Caitlin Clark, it's food. Not for primary defender. You know what? I'm not even going to push back on this because I be getting on you. when you talk about your basketball skills without ever seeing anything that you've ever done.

Same thing with you, with me. So I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I can't. So you came in on the red eye. You're there to do, why don't you tell people what you're there in D.C. for, you know? Man, the red eye is awful.

The red eye is awful. When I tell you, and I'm a person who can function on very little sleep, but there is something about the red eye and then you try to go to sleep with the sun up, it just doesn't work. It doesn't work. But I'm here to do an interview on behalf of higher learning.

We're going to do it together. And I'm here for the Trending Up Conference, which I'm very excited about to meet some of my favorite influencers, creators, content creators in the political social awareness space. Interesting. Cultural awareness space. Okay, so you're in D.C. you're having a great time.

I mean, I'm here to work. I'll be gone tomorrow. You're out. You don't fuck around in D.C. when you go there. I like to fuck around a little bit. I might do some, like, happy hours and stuff, hang out with Molly.

There was this, years ago, I went to D.C. And there's a strip club in D.C. Because the stadium is gone. So there's a... Yeah, I've been to stadium before. Yeah, stadium's gone. Stadium's gone.

That's my hometown. But there's a strip club in D.C. called The House. Okay, Bernard. Is that Bernard? Well, see, Bernard. Yeah, don't forget to get that mumbo sauce and chicken. Um,

yeah, just say the most generic, regular shit about D.C. It's like, come down to Louisiana. Get yourself some gumbo. Mumble sauce is not original. I know, I know a mumbo sauce is great, right? So there was a strip club in D.C., I think it's called the house or my house or something like that. I think it's the house.

It's called the house or something. So years ago, I was thinking about going there. And I was like, wait, before I go here, is this the type of place that you can go and have a good time or is this type of place where I'm going to need to bring, like, the hawk and the civic? You know what I'm saying? Like, you're going to need the, ah-a, if you go to this bitch.

And I put that on Twitter, and people was like, no, man, you're going to need the hawk and the civic at that bitch. Now, I don't know that for sure. It's on Georgia Avenue. It's on Georgia Avenue. I don't know that for sure. You go on there and it looks like people having a great time in that motherfucker. Plus, that's the kind of places that I like to go.

You know, we talk about Playhouse Miami Gardens and Miami. So that's kind of places I like to go. But I still have never ventured into there. Do you think that you might be going to the house while you're there, Rachel? We'll see where I end up. You never know with me. Okay, you never know. All right.

You never know. We'll see. I'll report back if I go. I have one more thing to say before I get into the show. I just want to say something. and maybe you're not going to agree with this. Do you know whose music is aging really well to me? Who?

Kid Inc. Oh, I'm not as, I'm not tapped into Kid Inc. Now, do you know why you might not be tapped into Kid Inc? Why? Because you weren't in L.A. in the 2010s. Okay, makes sense. So Kid Inc. was everywhere. It was huge.

But for some reason, when you heard that, music because mustard was on a lot of that shit and that's just a very distinct sound right and that sound just reminds you of fun and having fun and being in 2015 and 2016 like whoever you came

where is my main chick I told the fuck that nigga that was the adlet from Kid Inc he comes in he goes I told the fuck that nigga and then you used to be in supper club or like Greystone or something, and then he would say that, and then you would say that.

He would say, I told the fuck that nigger. And then you would say that as Kid Inc. said that with Chris Brown on the track, you would say, I told the fuck that nigger. And you were having fun. You were having fun in Emerson and opera. You were having fun at all of these different places. And now that era is totally gone. It's like that era is gone.

Now I'm old as shit, and I shouldn't be in that bitch anyway. And that's very true. that era is gone. That era of LA that was in the 2010s, I can't tell you how, like beauty and Essex Day Party was like the last shred of it. I can't tell you how much fun it was.

12, 13, 14, 15. I didn't do it all the time because TMZ had me hemmed up. Whenever I did do it, we was just having a fucking ball. I tell the fuck that, and Maine chick came on and I thought about that era

because that's what that made me think about. That's what that music makes me think about. It was just very fun. It was very fun time. So it's aging well because you're missing it. Well, you could say that, but it's also aging well just because the song came on and I had I was having fun.

I was walking around in the neighborhood like early in the morning because I take like an early morning walk and people are like getting out of the way when I'm walking down the sidewalk because I'm saying, I told the fuck that nigger. And they they're like, what is this guy? Because people are really afraid. The white people are super duper afraid when they're on their runs and stuff in the early morning because it's only like

the people that are on the streets in the early morning like I'm talking about like 630 is only me and the people that are running and then you know some of our neighbors that need a little help so they never know what you are yeah yeah yeah so they're not sure even though you got your haircut and you got a phone and you got this they're still scared like I you have bozeman with you no no No, no Bozeman. Bozeman is still asleep at this time. Boseman doesn't get up early. Boseman doesn't fly around like that.

You try to get Bozeman up too early. He turns around and he goes, no, Bozeman's not getting up before 8 o'clock. Anyway. Do you, what, before we move? I told you, we're going to bring it back. We're going to bring it back. You are craving.

I'd never experienced this L.A., which I would have loved to. But you're craving this kind of good time. And I told you, everyday people, two weeks. I need you to go ahead and buy this table. I hope that everyday people will help me. No, I'm just joking. Now, I'll buy the table. What is it?

About 2,000? It can't be more than 2000. It was less than that last time. How much was the table at everyday people? It's like 1,400, I think. That's good. So I will buy the table. We will have fun at everyday people.

Do you think that Kid Inc. will be played? I do. Because it's very L.A. I think you will. I don't know if they're going to play that nigger at that bitch. I don't remember. I had such a good time last time. I don't even remember who I don't remember who was playing.

It was just vibes. You loved it. I loved it. Okay. Well, I loved it. What did you do this weekend? So I wasn't feeling well. So I mostly stayed in the house.

I'm sorry. And played major league baseball 26th of the show. The Dodgers in this game, they're 92 and 10. I have three pitchers that are battling out for the Syung. Max Muncie is leading the league. in home runs. He's got 47 home runs and 100 RBIs at the midway point.

So I'm the man at that motherfucker. What about you? Nice. I went to a party to, you know, be allied to my Filipino brothers and sisters called Filipino Forces Fiesta. It's the fourth time they've done it.

Did it at Willhouse. It was great. What did you say? What are you doing? What do you mean? Why are you laughing? Then I kind of like that. Wait a second.

It's like, that's not funny. I went to the Filipino forces fiesta part. That's what it was called. Filipino forces fiesta. And it was just celebrating Filipinos in L.A. The culture, they had a dinner before. It was at Willhouse. They had a party.

It was great. It was great. So a lot of people I had seen in a long time. A lot of Filipino people. A lot of Filipino people I hadn't seen in a long time. Okay. Yeah. So you're deep into the Filipino community.

I mean, I support. Yeah. I mean, I don't say I'm deep, but I, like, support. One of my friends was one of the hosts and was throwing it and asked if I would come. And I was like, yeah. And then I walked in. I was like, oh, wow, this is really fun. So I made a whole night of it.

Ended it in the game night. And then I went to see I love boosters this weekend, too. Mm-hmm. It was good. I enjoyed it. Booth doesn't miss. Yeah, it was really good. Then, of course, watched Game 7 and made homemade Wingstop and fries.

Did a pretty good job of that. And then, yeah, I was just chilling. So let's go back to the Filipinos real quick. So I'm wondering something. So back in the day, Ryan, you know Ryan. Of course. So we're going to put a picture of my friend Ryan up right now. so you guys can see him.

But there used to be a Filipino basketball tournament that happened in Baton Rouge. Oh, big population out there? Well, I'm not sure. But they had a tournament. So it was enough motherfuckers for them to have a tournament.

This is why I first learned the hidden secret about Filipino people, which is that they are really good athletes. They're just small. But they are really good athletes. Like, when you think about, and then I was, And talking to a Filipino brother back then,

because I just went there to watch, I talked to a Filipino brother, and he was like, yeah, yeah, we get busy. I was like, look, all of this on the court. Because my man, Al and Lee Dale, they were both half Filipino. And so you could be on the team if you were half Filipino, but then you could have, I think,

two people on the team be non-Philippinos. And it would be funny because you would have a whole team of Filipino guys and then two like six, five niggers that they would have to run the polls for them. and those you could have two non-Philippinos. Now, the thing about Ryan is that Ryan was on the team as a fake Filipino. No. Put the picture back up of Ryan.

Put the picture back over Ryan. Put the picture up of Ryan. Ryan was on the team as a fake Filipino. Ryan does not look. Who thought he was Filipino? He was, because Alan Liddell could play because they're half Filipino. So they said that Ryan was half Filipino. They're half Filipinos that exist in Baton Rouge.

We have them. And so they put Ryan on the team. They said that Ryan was half Filipino and the people went for it because of Ryan's look. Now, we could look at Ryan right now and we could ask people if they think that he could pass for half Filipino. I personally think that he could. So that gave Ryan's team an incredible advantage because they were able to have him. He's about 6-3, crazy athletic. Is he that, John?

6-3, 6-2. whatever. That nigga was way above the rim, though. Hate on my niggins. That nigga was way above the rim. So he was able to be on their team as a half Filipino. And then they also could bring in two other

like regular non-Philippinos to add to their tournament team. And they went deep and they won that bitch. You always have a story, a random-ass story. That is not what I thought you were going to talk about. You got the most random stories. Please write a book of stories I mean it's endless

Man it's endless There was one Filipino nigga I never forget See because he had Because there's a Filipino word That's like a slur But Or who Well there's a Filipino word

I don't want to say the word But it's a slur But they call it's like a They say it to each other Like almost like they got like a little N word Of their own This is what they said Okay.

And he had that tattooed on him. And I asked him, I'm like, what is that? And he was like, well, that's a bad word for Filipinos. But I tatted on myself because, you know, it's kind of like the same thing. It's like, y'all, I'm like, don't say it, dog. But just we can be on the same thing. Boy, this little motherfucker was getting buckets, boy. Cold-ass shit.

Fucking over everyone. I-I-A-I-East. Boom, boom. And he had the Texas outwind of the state. on his ankle and in the middle was this word that's like a bad word for Filipinos because he was like claiming it. And I was fucking with him,

giving Ryan hell out there. Ryan was having trouble staying in front of this guy. Like you see this guy was out here getting busy. They're going to get mad at us. They're going to be like, y'all talk for 30 minutes about nothing. Let's go. Let's go. I'm sorry, guys.

No, no, no, no. I got you activated talking about. I feel like this is you would say something. You would say something that you went to like a party like this because I feel like you just do something random. I guess I do random stuff too. But it was so great. It was actually really wonderful.

So just before we get off this, what do they do there? Like what? It was just a party. Okay. It was just celebrating the culture. Like we got parties to celebrate the culture. And, you know, I mean, most everybody there was Filipino. I think I saw four black people, myself included.

I bet they was all men. to more blackers was all guys all what i bet there was all guys up there trying to with the philip no no no two girls two other girls because they because we can really go up but i don't know people don't know this on the low but black people in philippinos have like a uh yeah we were talking about that yes both men actually we were talking about both ways like men to the ladies and then ladies to the men there's a niggas be on the that's probably that's unyed and they don't want people to talk about it, I don't think,

because you've never seen, like, a movie that's like a black Filipino love story or, like, my Filipino home. Like, you don't see it, but, like, when you see a lot, it's like black people and Filipino people coming together and, I want to get invited to a party of an ethnic group. So somebody invite me to something. Now, let's get to the root of this, jealousy.

I'll invite you to the next one. They would love to have you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to be, I want to, like, just tell them to put the hoop up. I'm telling you, everywhere I've seen it, man. Football, basketball, boxing, pool. This episode is brought to you by Activia. You might already be eating yogurt, but not all yogurts are created equal.

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He headlined the Roots Picnic in Philadelphia, ending a six-year hiatus from appearing on stage in a solo capacity. The set featured a four-minute freestyle aimed at Kanye West, Drake, Nikki Minaj, Dame Dash, and Jaguar Wright. Your thoughts with your thumbs again, everybody bit they're the ones insane. You're no maniac. Watch our saniac in my presence, niggas.

shrink I need a new therapist this shit is not working I'm truly on the brain y'all better not encourage you got don't want me to think these thoughts that I think that that nut-ass nigger still stuttering and chatty-patti down on his luck again West introducing me to Jaguar I don't know why I still fuck with him that lady back on the stuff she sound like she in love with him her kid can't even take their kids enough for them a rapper can't be my eye. I got Maga Republicans. Those shots came from the very top of the government.

Good luck with them. I'm governed by guard. You try to break the government. I brain for 40 days. My neck get flooded again. Risk get flooded again. My net worth went up again. My next update?

The jig is up. I'm up 10. Wrong chart champ. You gotta look up again. Niggas look up the hole. I never looked up to them. I got your publishing gags to go talk tough to them. Don't talk success to me.

me you niggas is workers and perpetuities how your contract is worded don't make me go for man Ruth's picnic Jay Z to throw out the ruler has returned it seems as if Jay is going to reassert himself on the entire culture he can kind of slip in and out of his throne whenever he wants

just because he takes up that much cultural space what do you think I enjoyed it I mean, obviously we know he's got the Yankee Stadium tour coming up, not tour, but the Yankee Stadium shows with the blueprint and reasonable doubt. And then I think the third night is kind of a free for all. But I like it because it gets people excited. It's got people talking. We were just having a conversation on this podcast about hip hop not being fun.

This is fun to me. I mean, you aren't having fun with it anymore, you say, but I watch this and I thought this was fun. Everybody's dissecting it. He came out with a new look. You know, he reunited with people on stage. He takes shots at people, even though he said he wasn't, which is what, or he kind of talked about rat beef and being kind of passed it in 2026 in that GQ interview. And then it kind of makes people curious and wonder, well, what is he going to do with, with the Yankee Stadium shows

that we know it's a three-day show coming up. I like this kind of stuff. Yeah, like I think it's exciting. I think it's good for hip-hop. What do you think? So, you know, seeing Jay on stage with Freeway and Beans is just crazy, man. Because like the whole history of that

and knowing that there was some space between I don't know necessarily with him and freeway, but certainly between him and Beanie for a while. And just, how can I put this? Like, I know that people go their separate ways, and that's the way that it is. But my vision for black men is always the way I would see my daddy and my Uncle Craig.

You know, I would see my daddy and my Uncle Craig fight, but I don't remember no time when, they was in their 50s or their early 60s where daddy was like, fuck Craig. So they always ups and downs. There was business stuff because they had a business together or it wasn't necessarily a business together. We had a family business pouring concrete.

I always like to see these brothers maintain these relationships or fix these relationships older in life. I think that's dope. So that to me was the most meaningful part of it. Seeing them all on stage together doing these classic records. and knowing that that type of shit is what establishes hip hop legacy groups, legacy brands, you know, you don't get no Rolling Stone tour at 65 or 70 if the Rolling Stones break up in their 40s.

And if they do break up in their 40s, then the Rolling Stones got to get back together and that makes it more meaningful and all of that stuff. So when people talk about the aging of hip hop, sometimes I hope that hip hop age is out of some of the pettiness that ends up happening between the brothers and it might be petty or not be petty, I'm not in the middle of fucking shit, how do I know? Now, I'm going to contradict myself in what I say next

because I think the idea of a back and forth between Jay-Z and Drake is absolutely scintillating and I wonder what happens next from the other side. I haven't been more interested. You think there's going to be a back-and-forth? I think the idea of it

is scintillating. I haven't been more interested in what would happen if two guys tussle than I am, lyrically, of course, lyrically between J.Z and Drake. I haven't been this interested in something in a long time if, in fact, it was to go down. This is more interesting to you than Kendrick and Drake. So now, if you'd have asked me, then everybody wanted to see Kendrick and Drake tussled, right? Everybody wanted to see what would happen when that happened. I think now, though, thinking about it, this one to me would be more meaningful in a way, and it would also be more definitive for each guy. For Drake, depending on how it goes, Drake can't suffer another 2024.

Yes, he can. He can't. That's he can't. I mean, I'm sure people will still buy his music, but just for his sake, I don't, I, it's not great. I, I'm more, I'm interested in the back and the fourth. I agree with you. But I think what I also like is when, when Jay announced that he was doing the, the, the shows at Yankee Stadium, I immediately was like, oh, wow, this is really interesting.

Not just because I'm a fan of the albums, just because it feels like he's establishing his presence again after a period of time when it feels like the narrative has shifted around him. And not that he's lost his place in hip hop, just the way we talked about Jay-Z was different, right? You had the Diddy accusations. You have Jaguar rights, you know, making the exact accusations. You have, even if I take it back 10 years, you've got lemonade and the infidelity implications as well. And I feel like Jay-Z pretty much has stayed silent. and hasn't really talked about anything. I mean, obviously he did through his attorney

and some remarks about the ditty allegations, and then we saw the GQ interview, which was more than we had gotten from him. But now to see him on stage and addressing these things artistically, creatively, creatively, lyrically, feels nostalgic in a bit. Not that he was talking about the same things before, but just the way that he is asserting himself again

is exciting to me as somebody who, you know, he's a Jay-Z fan. So I like him coming back. I do. It's fun. And even though I knew he was performing at the picnic, I guess I don't know what I thought we were going to get, but I didn't think he was going to be all of this.

Yeah, he went crazy. I think that the infidelity lemonade stuff was pretty much they pretty much tied a bull on that with the Carter's album, right? They're together. They're talking about it. Their family. I'm not trying to hear that nigga talk about that. But it's still, no, no, no. I don't think he's going to talk about it. I'm just saying,

the way we looked at Jay-Z. Like it's, yeah, they did the Carter's, but it's still like a thing of, you know, the elevator scene and, you know, it happened. It's still a thing. For real? Yeah. I'm not saying it's an overriding thing when I see him,

but it's like a thought. Like, I think about it. I think about it. Yeah. It's not the overriding narrative. I'm just saying all these things that happen. Yeah, of course they've done stuff together, but to me, I don't know, it just,

I just feel like he's a story. establishing his presidents and the narrative is shifting. I can see that. I mean, or he's going to. To me, I don't think about that at all, but I could see, you know,

from the super bad, you know, people don't forget type of thing. I just remember what it was like in the office when that video came in. People did not believe. Like, people,

it was what? Like, if, it's like, I just remember, I remember specific times in the office where people were, where even the people in the office,

or shocked about stuff. I remember Donald... Did y'all release the video? Huh? First? It came through your first. So I just remember people in office being like, yo, what? Like, what?

Like, huh? And it wasn't, you got to move so fucking fast that you don't really have time to like get into that too much. But I just remember the rest of the people that I wasn't involved directly in the story going, I'm watching the video. I'm like, yo, what the fuck?

And that's the point you can't do this. That's the point to where if you had less discipline, you would want to text everybody, you know, like, I'm watching the video of Salon slap the shit out of Jay-Z right now. And like, for real, but you can't, you know, you can't do that. I did it a couple times, but you can't, but you can't do that. I think for me, the thing about, the other one, by the way, was the Donald Sterling thing.

There somebody had told me that we have a video of Donald Sterling telling his girlfriend not to invite Magic Johnson to basketball games because Magic Johnson is black. And I was like, bullshit. shit, when I get into the office, I got to hear that for myself. And it was like, no, seriously, I'm calling you because you need to get to the office faster because we need angles and we got to do it. I just couldn't believe it. And then I listened to the audio and it's like someone saying, don't bring Magic Johnson

to the games because he's black. I'm like, it's fucking Magic Johnson. It's crazy to me. What were your years at TMZ again? 2011 to 2019. Wow. So like there was some. I'm just thinking of all the same.

stuff that just came through. Jay-Z, Donald Sterling, Prince is passing away. Whitney Houston. Whitney Houston, like, it was legitimately, legitimately the heyday. Now, TMZ had done, they had done Kramer,

they had done Michael Jackson, which is, I mean, come on, that's the biggest story in the history of celebrity news. They had done a lot of stuff, and, you know, they had, they were a well-oil machine, because I was a tour guy when I got to TMZ, right? but those stories breaking, some of them like in successive years,

you look around, there's a cluster of stories that all were happening at the same time. Jay-Z is Ray Rice, it's Donald Sterling. I mean, TMZ is actually like at that point, a really important investigative entity. You could argue that at that point, Harvey Levin was the best investigative reporter in the country in terms of, especially, and Evan as well, Evan Rosenblum as well, like Mike Walters, all of those guys.

so I don't have to get into a whole fucking goddamn dick suck about that, but they was on their thing. This is the reason why I feel like the Jay-Z and Drake situation is, like, really interesting. So in basketball, what's the legacy argument that has had right now? In basketball, like, who's the greatest? Yeah, who are the two guys in that argument? Jordan and LeBron. Exactly.

Okay. Now, here's the thing about Jordan and LeBron. There is no way actually to have Jordan and LeBron settle that from a basketball perspective. When Jordan and LeBron are put up against each other, it's a narrative argument and an agenda argument. Because it's difficult for somebody who came along later to look at LeBron James and his statistical dominance of basketball and not see LeBron James as the best of all time. He's going to finish with all of these records. He's going to finish with championships. He's going to finish playing the game, going out completely on his terms at 41 and all of this stuff,

doing stuff that Michael never did. But at the same time, Jordan's peak, he was something otherworldly, not just his ability on the basketball court, but his cultural dominance of not just basketball, but of sport, period. it really pales in comparison to anyone else. Like Michael Jordan was something special, something that was so special that you wonder if anyone can get to that point

and that pinnacle ever again. But on a basketball level, there's no way for those guys to actually fight that out. In this particular situation, there actually is. If Jay-Z is Michael Jordan and Drake is LeBron,

then hip-hop actually has a mechanism to where those guys can go bar for bar, wit for wit, sale for sale, influence for influence in the present day, and establish a winner. So you have two different legacies. Drake has lasted long enough to still be at the top of his game right now. Jay-Z has endured long enough

for everyone to still believe right now that he could outwrap. Drake. There are people right now that believe that Jay-Z could outwrap Drake in perpetuity, that he will always be able to outwrap him. Don't matter if he's 75, 80, give him a beat, he's going to start fucking people up, right? The question is, is that true? With Drake and everything that he feels, if Drake believes, and I'm led by some people to believe that Drake kind of believes that there's an underlying rock nation agenda against him, and if he's going back and forth with the first person to go super nuclear with that and actually say, I'm fucking with you, invites this thing.

And now hip hop has a Jordan and LeBron argument that actually can be settled in present day with two people who we both view as powerful and equal adversaries. Hmm. Does Drake see that about himself? What you mean? Like, does he think that? He's the greatest and then therefore wants to establish his presence or his legacy against Jay-Z.

So let me call Drake real quick. I don't have no fucking idea. I don't know. I don't know why I don't see it. I love the comparison of Jordan and LeBron. I love it. And I was like leaned in listening to you. I follow it.

And you're so right. It's something that can be done in rap. It's something that can't be done in basketball. I agree with everything except for the sales thing, because I just don't know, like at the same time, it's generational, you know, Drake is right now. It's not like Jay-Z I'm saying he's of the past, but it's just more of like a respect, a legacy thing.

I don't know if Jay-Z is even coming out with the album or anything. I actually don't think this is going to be a back and forth. So I'm interested, I'm interested to see where this goes. I think Drake did. did his thing on Iceman. Jay did his thing on the stage here. I think that there'll probably be something at the July show, but I think that that's where it ends.

I actually don't see this being a whole thing, but I'd like to be proven wrong, because I'd like to feel the same excitement we felt a couple of years ago when it came to the back and forth with the rap beef. But I don't know. I don't see it. Question really quickly before we get out of this, and we probably spend too long on it,

but what do you think about people who say that they feel like maybe there's a little hypocrisy on what Drake did based on his GQ interview. What Jay-Z did you mean. Where he's like, yes, sorry, sorry, what Jay-Z did in his Jay-Z interview. Do you think that now the GQ interview was strategic? Because he talks about not being on defense anymore and playing offense.

Do you think that, but he also said we can't make it personal, we can't talk about kids, he did that when he was on stage. Like, what do you, what's your takeaway of it? I feel like great mainstream rappers, their trick is being so compelling that we understand and endorse their hypocrisy. Like, great mainstream rappers. I'm not talking about guys like that we realize that are cold and aren't hypocrites at all, or their hypocrisy isn't as evident.

because they lead lifestyles that don't call their raps into question that much. You know what I'm saying? If you saw, I don't know, some of these guys that are the pro-black, more conscious rappers, if you saw them at a Trump rally, maybe. But they sometimes lead lives that are, I guess,

small enough, culturally small enough. They're not big enough for them to, like, have to answer some of these questions. So if it's a huge mainstream rapper, the question always is, how do they make us through their talent, their hypocrisy because that's what it is that they do, right? They get on the record and they make one record about how much we got to love and respect

women. And the next record is, yo, bitch, take it out your mouth. Squirt it on your girl. Squirt it all over the motherfucking world. I'm squirting on you, bitches. Squirting on you, squirting on you, squirting on you, squirting on you, squirting on you, squirting on you, squirting on you, bitches. And then the next song, the next song is, damn, I love my mama.

So this is always been what these guys were. something special about Jay-Z in terms of that, right? But I also think to a degree there was always an acceptance, at least from me, about how that was because that's, to me, how people are. Like, some of the raps represent the best of yourself. Some of the raps represent the worst of yourself. Jay-Z coming out saying, I think we passed battling, was hypocritical then because he battled his whole career.

as an older guy I tell younger guys like what not to do and they go van we know you and I go hey man I'm just telling you I've been there I'm not telling you that I was better than you I'm just telling you I've been there so you don't have to listen or whatever so I'm not really tripping on that as much what I do think though

is that Drake does view himself like LeBron James meaning when Drake leaves rap it would be silly for Drake not to think he's the greatest rapper of all time it would be it would be silly for him not to think he's the greatest rapper of all time it would be. It would be silly for him not to think he's the greatest rapper of all time. His career, he is the rap LeBron more than anyone because LeBron's career is essentially all of these records and accolades

and this sustained dominance over all of this time, but these huge and unavoidable failures in key moments. And with Drake, you have Pusha T, you have Kendrick, you even have the ghost rider shit, you have all in that, stuff that really is going to not be remembered as much as the fact that he just sold and maintained this type of statistical dominance over this entire period that like very few people are going to be able to get to. That's just the way it is.

So for him not to think he was the man after all of this time, he'd have to be crazy not to think he's the greatest rapper of all time. The numbers to him are telling him every single day that nobody has liked any rapper ever as much as they have liked to drink. So that up against Jay-Z, who is essentially this Michael Jordan character, to where Jay-Z had all of this stuff, is weird, because Jay-Z actually might be the LeBron, if you compare him to Tupac and Biggie.

But like, Jay-Z, who represents this monocultural rap god, who everybody wanted to be like everybody emulated, who could sell you anything, who could go anyplace, wasn't perfect, but was always. devastating, I think that would be interesting. But they might not. It might be too high leverage for both of those guys. They might be like, what the fuck is the point?

But I guess last thing I'll ask you is, if they do do it, who do you think will win? I want everybody. If they do, you think Jay-Z wins? Mm-hmm. I think Jay-Z wins. You think Jay-Z wins? You think Jay-Z wins? You think Jay-Z beats Drake hands down.

Lyrically? Yeah. Lyrically, but I'm just talking about Abifah's about more. than that now. Beef is now about like the narrative and all of that stuff. If Jay Z and Drake go here. I just think we've seen

we've seen Drake. I mean obviously you've seen Jay Z beef too but I think it's Jay. I do. I do. Bernard? I for sure you're going to say Jay Z. Jay? Yeah, he's lyrical lyrical genius. Donnie?

I don't know. I think with I agree, I'm more of a Jay Z fan but I think with you're saying that beefs are more than just lyrics now is the whole narrative situation I don't know I feel like I wouldn't discount Drake so easily I wouldn't either

but think back to him I'm not discounting him I just think I didn't say he's not he's just gonna blow him away I just think is Jay at the end of the day I mean

Jay Jay has the one big loss to Nas but I mean that's like rhyming against Moses I mean If you're going to beat Nause,

like if you're going to beat Nause at lyrics, you got to, I mean, that was, and that was a pretty tip for tap battle. That's two gods. That's some Mount Olympus shit. But we'll see what happens.

But that got, that kind of, I was like, wow, all the rest of the stuff, I mean, he's talking about a lot of people who at this point

are just like not at the same level. I mean, that's just him kind of just like taking a ruler and smacking people with it, you know? There's a lot. Jay Z, man.

Jay Z's back. It's a big. It's a big fucking deal. It's a big fucking deal. Donnie, what's next? Let's stick to music, kind of. Trump on Saturday called for the cancellation of the concert celebrating America's 250th birthday after multiple artists withdrew from performing the upcoming Great American State Fair on the National Mall. Shortly after the lineup was announced, Morris Day in the time, Young MC,

Martina McBride, the Commodores, and Brent Michaels, each announced that they were declining to participate, saying they were not let known that it was a political event. But Vanilla Ice and Millie Vanilli are still on for the June 26th event, as is Flo Rida for the event on July 2nd. Now, Trump's response to this was that there should be a giant, make America Great Again rally for 250, instead of having overpriced singers who nobody wants to hear whose music is boring

and yet who do nothing but complain. He also called himself the number one attraction anywhere in the world and says that he gets more or he gets much larger audiences than Elvis did in his prime. So Rachel, I want to ask you a question about this. You laughed. You think this is funny. You think it's funny. It's funny.

This brings me joy. Not very angry last podcast. So when it came to topics, I thought, gosh, what's something that's going to make me smile? Now, not everything we're going to talk about is going to make me smile today, but like Jay-Z is back. That makes me smile. The fact that there's this, again, here we are, 250th, you know, supposed to be celebrating America, but we know it's really about celebrating Trump and people are saying, nah, I'd rather not. That brings me joy.

Whenever it is a blow to Trump's ego, that makes me laugh. When he starts throwing a temper tantrum because people don't like him and resorts to saying things like they're boring, I'm the greatest talent anyway, I'm better than Elvis, which I did not hear that part. This makes me, this, like, this puts a pep in my step. Like, inject this into my veins. Like, I like this. This is my morning coffee.

The fact that all these, I remember, when it was announced, I was like, wow, I'm shocked some of these people are willing to be a part of this. Because even though it was, what was it billed at? It was billed as, I don't know, basically that they were celebrating in America, a concert on the National Mall, and that it was bipartisan. All these people are coming out saying, we were told it was bipartisan. The fact that the administration had to lie to performers to get them to even be a part of this says a lot. Nobody wants to publicly, right? Obviously, privately, they do because he's in office.

Nobody publicly wants to align themselves with Trump. I think that's funny. Trump thought he was doing something big, 250th birthday. It's on the national mall, 16-day celebration. Even though you're not even bringing acts that are, you know, current, it still was like he really thought he was doing something. And then at one by one, they all were like, nah, we were kind of lied to about this. And then you still have.

have a millie-finalia part of it vanilla ice and flow rider and he calls them boring musical acts and says like he still shits on them i think this is funny i'm sorry this is funny to me um flow rider is uh flow rider got too much money i would assume that florida got too much money for this man florida got too many hits i'm looking at him right now he's playing vienna austria tuesday on the 24th in Niagara Falls, Canada. So to me, I don't know why a wildflower would do this, but everybody does their own shit. Maybe he's a fan.

He could be. You never know. Maybe he likes Trump. Yeah. Yeah, what the fuck am I talking about? Yeah. What a wide floor. Look, man, whatever play whatever fucking concerts you want. What I think would be really awesome here is that if Trump didn't just step in and do a speech because we've seen that

before, that's something we've already seen before. I want to see Trump do some of the soul. from the people that dropped out. So I want to see Trump do Jungle Love. I want to see, I want to see Trump. Who would be Trump's Jerome? Like, who would be Trump's Jerome?

I want to see Trump. If you really think that you Elvis, like, Trump come out as Morris Day, you know what I'm saying? Who would be Trump? This is hilarious. That's what I want to see. Who would be Trump's Jerome? So from the Commodores, let's go with Brickhouse. Brickhouse.

Trump can do Brickhouse. That's a Delta song. Maybe easy like Sunday morning. Well, yeah, but you got to do Brickhouse, though. I'm sorry. Easy like Sunday, but they got a lot of records. The Commodores got a lot of records. But you got to do Brickhouse, right?

Trump. Trump doing Brickhouse. But is Trump? It's heck, Seth. It's going to be so much competition to hold that fucking mirror during jungle love, though. It's going to be a lot of... Like, J.D. Vans going to want to hold that mirror.

O, we, oh, we. I want to see Trump do the whole fucking thing. I want to see J.D. Vans going to break his ass to hold that mirror. Henseth going to want to hold the mirror. Fucking Rubio going to want to hold the mirror. Stephen Miller going to want to hold the mirror. Mark Levin might actually have a fucking heart attack trying to run over there.

Him and Ben Shapiro will be fighting to fucking hold that mirror for Trump. And that's no dis to drive. because Jerome is my nigga. But to hold the mirror for Trump, I want to see Trump do some of these records. So don't just come out here. We've already seen you do the fucking rally and lie. Come out here and do this.

I don't know any Martina McBride records. What's she saying? She could do, he could do Independence Day. He could do a broken wing. Maybe I love you from the Runaway Bride movie. Okay. This country was my jam. Okay, there you go.

Okay, so I want to see him do some of these records. Like Brett Michaels was with poison? Was it poison? Yeah. Was Brett Michael's poison? Yeah, he was with poison. Yeah, he's poisons. Come out and do some of the poison records and stuff like that.

Do poison. What do poison have? And then for Millie Vanilli, he could be the Vanilli. He could be the vanilla. They could do it together. Well, they're still performing, right? Well, one of them's not with us anymore. Oh, he passed away.

That's Warren. That was Cherry Pie, by the way. I love that song. She's my Cherry Pie. Cool, drink, water, it sounds a sweet surprise. Tastes so good, make a grown man cry. Sweet Cherry Prize. Sweet Cherry Pie.

I said, I love that record. I don't know why. So that was more a poison. What did poison have? I know poison. I don't know them as much. Every rose. Every rose has his song.

Every rose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Donnie, fuck with it. Okay, so every rose has a store. That's a fucking, that's like a staple. Number one, hit singer. So Trump could do every rose has its thorn. He could do all of the records,

and he could switch up the look throughout the rest. And that's what I would, now that would be worth it. That would be worth it. Honestly. It would. Honestly. So don't fuck around because people will realize. No, I like it.

Millie Vanilly. He's vanilla. Vanilla Ice. He could be one of the teenage mutant ninja turtles. Oh, fuck. Who else is Flo Rider? Hold on, man. We got to let the turtles live, though.

Like, we can't have Trump. Which turtle would he be? Nah, I think about it. He would be bebop or rock steady. He would be bebop a rock steady. He would be bebop a rock steady. Trump, come out. there looks like look because all of this shit is fucking ridiculous anyway right like how stupid is this

like don't trump has been elected who is supposed to be this grand patriot and all of that stuff he's making a mockery out of the nation's 250th birthday if you care about that type of thing right and a lot people will get mad at me i don't give a fuck about that shit i do not care right but i don't either for the people who do care about that type of thing then don't trump is celebrating that not with some deep historical and cultural analysis of America and what America has meant on the world stage and all of this different stuff, American innovation, all of that.

He's celebrating it with a milly-vanilly concert and a UFC fight at the White House. And you guys who are patriots, we can't even take y'all seriously because if patriotism is the UFC at the White House, what am I supposed to make it at? That sounds fucking dumb to me, but whatever. Well, it's like the paradey had last last night.

year that nobody really was there right like he he's making it about he wants to enjoy like the like everybody there to praise him is yeah it's not it's not working he's got enough enough for 251 don't do anything man I'm telling it come and go Trump come out there and do jungle love I'm telling you man I'm telling you Trump come out to that bitch and do Jungle Love, do the whole. They say he's 6-3-2-38. So he kind of, he still should be nimble.

Who's 238? That's what they say. They say that man, 238. Yeah. They say he 238. Okay. That's what they say. All right, all right.

That's what they say. That man is the same as, I guess, AJ Brown. So it is what it is. All right, let's stick with Trump for a little bit longer. On Friday, he said that a federal judge should be. Ashamed. Specifically, he's talking about the Kennedy Center. A judge should be ashamed of himself for blocking his administration's move to add

Trump's name to the Kennedy Center, ruling that board members improperly voted to close the performing arts center for renovations this summer. It was scheduled to close July 5th for two years. The U.S. District Judge Christopher's decision, in that decision, the judge cited Congress's authority over any name changes to the Kennedy Center. Again, it brings me. These are the kind of updates that I want. This is like, first, I think my first thought was, what took so long for this to even happen? But it only happened as a result of, you know, a former congresswoman who was on the board, ended up suing and then got the ruling.

But I'm like, what, what took so long? If this was something that was in, if this is like, only Congress has the power to do it. And then so Congress is the only one who could. make the change, I just didn't know what took so long for this to happen, but I, it was thrilling news to me. This could be a quick hitter. I just loved seeing the fact that a man who continues to force himself on us in ways that are not presidential, these things are slowly being taken away from him. In the same week that we get announced that he is putting his face on a $250 bill, again, to honor himself, we see that he is removing the name, his name, his name,

His name is being removed from the Kennedy Center, which he has just ruined that entire thing with who comes to perform there, who sits on the board there. And he was closing this down for two years. And now he's like, well, if my name can't be on it, I'm not doing the renovations. And it can just go to help. What is happening?

What is happening? What do you think it would take? So Trump wants his face on the $250 bill. Trump wants his name on the kid. Kennedy Center. He wants all of this stuff. What do you think it would take for some of his underlings to be like he's gone too far? Like if Donald Trump came out right now and said, I would like to propose a law that mandates that every male in the country, every firstborn male be named Trump, do you think that Republicans would stand up against him and say, I don't

want to have to name my son Trump? No. No. I think it would have to name my son Trump. No. I think it would have to be him saying I want my own version of the Bible. He already did that. No. Wait a minute. There's no Is there a Trump Bible? No. Yes, there's a Trump Bible.

Remember the Trump Bible? He's, he already, he legitimately already did that. He's done, he has assaulted everything they hold dear. And they just open up the next hole. Wait, there's like, in the way that they have the King James version, they have the Donald

Trump version of the Bible? I'm so, I don't know that he changed the text. No, he did. It's called God bless the USA. Trump Bible. Trump has a Bible. He already, he legitimately God bless the USA Bible is an addition of the King James Bible, Christian Bible, endorsed and marketed

by Donald Trump. It is in partnership with country music singer Lee Atwood and features American founding documents alongside strips. He legitimately already did that. He already did the Bible. He already did him as Jesus, he's done it all, and they just don't, it's so funny to me, man.

I mean, I was about to say, if he redid the crucif, if he put himself hanging on the cross, I think they'd be cool with it. A version of him. That might be go too far, but wow, I thought I had it with the Bible. Nah, man, he already did that. He's like, he. I guess nobody bought it. I don't know.

Remember, we covered this, I think. I mean, there were certain people. I can't keep up. We have shoes. We have a Bible. Shoes. We have. We have.

We have coins. Demons. Coins. All of this stuff. There has not been a more iron-clad case for the Antichrist in a long time. If you're putting up Antichrist people, it's like there's not been. I remember when Obama first came along and some of my homies back in Baton Rouge where everything is about the end of the world and the antichrist and all that stuff was like, bro, I don't. I don't know, man.

I see somebody with this type of fucking sway and he's that. I feel like this could be an antichrist situation. And I'm like, if a nigger is the antichrist, that is the funniest. God has the biggest sense of humor in the history world. After everything that black people have been through, if the antichrist was actually a black guy, like that would be, God is hilarious, right, if that were to happen. But obviously it didn't, okay? Like it didn't happen, but Trump seems like he's trying to be the antichrist.

He's trying to make people believe that he is wholly consumed with direct idolatry to him. Nobody cares. Like, they don't care. Yeah, I would think religion would be the thing that crossed the line. But there's nothing at this point. It's so funny to me. There's nothing, man. But you know what?

Today, we have a victory. Those letters are coming down. Now, you asked me earlier if I had gone to see Dr. King, if I had been to the Lincoln Memorial, I might swing by the Kennedy Center and see if I can see it live. Now, that would be something to watch. That would be something to see.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, look, I'm looking at it. I know a lot of people that were involved because the president has to appoint you to like the Kennedy thing. So I know some people that were involved in that. It actually was very difficult for them with the way Donald Trump gutted everything. They had to then leave. Some of them had to leave their posts.

And that appointment, once you're appointed to that, like, that's an appointment for life. You're part of that forever. It's a big deal. And it's something that you can like, you know, really be a part of that it's supposed to celebrate America and celebrate some of the greatest artists in the history of America and all of that stuff. I just know a lot of people who are really gutted by the fact that I remember someone went is nothing sacred. Somebody that I know that was appointed

is nothing sacred. Is there no part of America that he won't defile with this just grotesque sense of self-importance that the president seems to have? This unbelievable ego. Can we have nothing? And maybe you can still have the Canadian senator. I don't know what happens if you were appointed and then you leave. Can you go back? I don't know what happens, but we'll see. Well, I think the board is still in place.

And like now they're concerned. They're going to fight it, obviously. They're going to challenge this in court. But they're concerned now that what donations they lost before with what Trump did and taking over and putting his name on it and appointing certain people like Gusha Vance, they're worried that now that his name is removed, that they won't have any donations. And the whole thing is just going to go. And remember, they were shutting it down for two years. So they've lost the entire calendar for this next year as far as performing arts go. So I don't know what will happen there, but today, Trump's name's coming down.

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surprise topic. Who did you vote for? Tell everyone. Do it now. Are we doing that? You don't want to do it? You don't want people to know? Okay. Well, I'm just going to do the big three for me. I voted for Karen Bass. There you go. I voted for Tom Steyer and I voted for Michael Tubbs for Lieutenant Governor. Okay, sweet. I'll tell you why I asked you that. You going to say who you voted for? I haven't voted yet, so I can't.

I've already told everyone who I'm voting for you know what I mean voting I'm writing in butchware I am voting to the left of bass I'm voting for ramen which is yeah not just a delicious treat it's somebody to the left of men and I am

obviously voting for Michael Tubbs so love Michael Tubbs would love to see Michael Tubbs achieve as much so I'm voting to the left of of the center of the party for a lot of different reasons. The vote for the mayor or the mayor is a strategic vote to try to influence the top two.

Now, what to you, Rachel, quickly, what do you think Spencer Pratt's rise means? Because he is a viable, viable candidate leading up to the second here. I know. from what I gather for people who are interested in him is what it means is it's very similar to 2016. People keep saying, I want to change. I want something different. Most people don't understand, you know, what it is, what, like how hard it is to accomplish everything,

especially in a city like Los Angeles in four years. They don't understand what has been done prior to this mayor that has been building on building on building to create the current situation that we are we are in right now. It is impossible, I think, for somebody to be able to get it done in four years. And I think people are so frustrated in wanting something different right now that they're willing to listen to the voice, even though that it's plans over policies, its ideas over any type of actual execution or the ability to execute. They don't care. They just want to say that they voted for something different. And I even think that let's just say he moves on into the primary, that's still the overriding thought with people.

I'm voting for something different. Well, even if it doesn't work out, I was trying to have something different, which to me doesn't make any sense when, okay, what is the difference that you're voting for? If this is a person that doesn't have any policies in place, I don't know if you've seen the viral video going around. If you're black, shout out to Slosson girl on social media who asked Spencer Pratt. What are you doing? What are your, hmm? She's great. What are you doing? What are your plans for the black community for black people in L.A.? He had none. He was like, yeah, I'm listening to them. It tells me they haven't been heard. Yeah. I don't really know. Like that is Spencer Pratt. So I just, I think the main reason, a long way of saying is that people feel like they're voting for something

different. Your thoughts? No, I agree. I'm trying to think because this just popped up and I kind of sprung it into the podcast. I'm sorry about doing that. I'm sorry to Rachel. I'm sorry to Donnie. I'm sorry to Bernard who looks like that. No, no, no, no.

Looking at white ladies. I'm well, I welcome any chance to shit on Spencer Pratt. Do you know what though? Do you know if I had to really think about what Spencer Pratt actually meant? Hold on, let me think. You know, to me, it's actually more than that.

Not actually more than it. It's more and different at the same time. I think that Spencer Pratt is probably the revenge of the ruling class. Keep going. You gave Rach face. Yeah, I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening.

Donnie represents people going, hey, this is our city. New York is so culturally strong that if you can make an argument to New Yorkers, that their city is actually being hijacked by people who are trying to leverage their cultural control over the city to make it into a playhouse sandbox for billionaires. New Yorkers will listen to that because there are very few cities in America that have. as strong or cultural ownership over their city as New York does. A New Yorker is a New Yorker. They believe that if you put a New Yorker

in the middle of the fucking moon with no other resources, that New York is so tough, they would figure out how to live there. They really believe in what it means to be a New Yorker. And so Mom Dani came along, Mom Dany went, hey, people are trying to dilute that. They're trying to change your city

into something that no longer reflects the identity of the city that you've always held true. They're trying to make it unaffordable. They're trying to make it unlivable. They're trying to make all of the stuff that you think is New York into the version that they think is New York.

And people responded to that. They elected Mom Dani. Right? Now Mom Dani is governing and you know, we'll see how he continues to govern. I think in L.A. is a little bit different. I think in L.A. L.A. already kind of is

a playhouse playpen amusement. part for the super rich and beautiful. It kind of is that. Not the parts of L.A. that are the most cultural parts, but the parts of L.A. that people consider to be L.A., particularly in the

last five to ten years, you're talking about member of club L.A. You're talking about invited to this activation L.A. You're talking about invited to this screen in L.A. You're talking about the type of L.A. that people want to be a part of. And that part of L.A. is controlled by a lot of people, and it is

excuse me, by a small group of people. And it is no secret that those people are the ones that are funding Spencer Pratt. The ones that are funding Spencer Pratt are like the governor of the Lakers, the head of Netflix. Now, I didn't see Tessorandos, but I did see Nicole Avon is, I read some stuff, don't know how true it is that she's backing Spencer Pratt. Like Lucian Grange, like all of these people, David Foster, all of these people, I'm looking at the list right now. Like these types of people who want L.A. to sort of remain a place that's not necessarily for the people.

There's a fake progressivism that exists in this city that no one ever really talks about. Like a progressivism that are people who rebuke Trump in public, but in private, they are super happy for their tax breaks. they want the elitism and the structure of this particular city to, they want that to endure. They care about this. But they have to play nice in these elections because they want to seem progressive. They want to seem progressive because a lot of Los Angeles, the Los Angeles now I'm talking about,

this is essentially Hollywood. It's about projecting this air of inclusion without there actually being any real inclusion. So, you know, Caruso was a lot of these people's guy the last time because they kind of want somebody to come in and crack the whip and make their city what they consider to be livable, what they consider to be awesome for their type of people. They don't want to have to see people struggling. They don't want to have to see people starving. They don't want that, not because it affects those people. They don't want it because it's a bummer to them. because if we actually were to address those problems,

it would make their ilk a little bit less powerful in this city. So whoever the person is, whether it's Caruso in the last election, or whether it's Pratt now, Pratt is a much more direct conduit to being who they need him to be because there are no ideas in his head. He's a blank slate. He is them. He is someone who is able to put on a good performance, but behind them there's really no ideas that,

what it is that he believes. They love that. They think that that's the deal. They want somebody who's more conservative to come in here and get L.A. going again. And more than that, they want someone who they can control. And say what you want about Mayor Bass and about ramen. They're not going to be able to do that as much as they would with Spencer Pratt. So what you really see with a lot of these people who, if you went in their houses,

they'd have pictures with them and Obama up there. They'd have pictures with them and Hillary Clinton up there. They have pictures with them and Bernie Sanders, if they really were all on one year or whomever else. You see all of the money that they've donated to all of these causes, but when it comes down to actual sharing and community building, they're not going to really be interested in that. And particularly at a high leverage moment for the city,

a moment where the city actually needs people who can come in and make L.A. a place that isn't just beautiful for rich people, but is livable for the average person. If you go around, even with the people that y'all fuck with, that we fuck with, and start asking the question about whether or not they actually care about that, the answers that you get are going to be so striking for even the people that you think that you can trust, the good people, the ones that might march with you during Pride Month, the ones that might march with you.

Give an example. I mean, I don't want to name names because I haven't had a lot. No, not name, not name, just like the ideas that you said it would be shocking. What do you mean? You said it would be shocking to hear what they think. I'm not asking you to name people. I'm just like, what's the idea like that they have? Oh, I think the idea, the ideas that I'm talking about is like, okay, cool.

So if we're talking about homelessness in Los Angeles, right? If we're talking about affordability in Los Angeles. Yeah. And we're talking about even the fire. So I'm sure some of these people lost homes in the fires and stuff like that. And that's a huge tragedy. What you're willing to do is very important in those situations to change outcomes. The question I always ask people is, what are you willing to share?

Like, what are you willing to share? Are you willing to share of your wealth? Are you willing to share? Do you give a fuck? Do you think that L.A. or any place in this country is a better place if we capitalize on the talent and the ingenuity of the average American? Do you think that L.A. is better if you live better? Or do you think that L.A. is better if the people that make L.A. run live better. And that's like a fundamental question.

And like to me, because of candidates that are left-leaning like my. Donnie all over the place that seem to be telling people, I think this city is better. If you're doing better and not if they're doing better, I think a lot of people in a lot of places are going to coalesce around candidates like Pratt that they can put a hand up their back a little easily, a little easier to protect what it is that they have. So when I look at all of these people every single day, there's a new producer of this or fucking director of that or CEO of this that's a support. reporting him, that's because they believe that he is an elixir to a populist progressive

agenda in Los Angeles. And I'm not saying that Karen Bass is going to bring that. But I am going to say if it works in other cities, what you will see is people going, we want a little bit of that for ourselves. But I guess my thing that I find interesting to, and I agree with what you said, is all of that benefits a certain group of people. All of those people are doing this to protect their. interest and keep it themselves on a certain level. That is not going to trickle down to the average person who lives in this city. And I think I'm more shocked at the people seeing where we are nationally, right, when you wanted to vote for something different. When you want to change, look at where that has us now. So I understand why the elite are doing what they're doing. That's not as shocking to me. But what's shocking to me, but what shocking

to me is the person who says, you know, buys into the, I'm exhausted from this. I'm exhausted from this. I want change. I want change when it comes to this. And thinking that implementing a Spencer Pratt, that is going to trickle down and make your L.A. better. It's not. And that's, and that's also within the current state of the economy nationally. Why do you think implementing a Spencer Pratt with no plans? And when he does, if he gets into office, the plans and policies that he have are going to benefit the very people that you just named. Why would you think that that's going to trickle down and make your life better?

Change the LA, whatever change it is that you're looking for is going to happen because Spencer Pratt is going to be in office. Nothing that he has done shows that, one, that he cares about you, but two, that he even understands what it is you're going through. And that is very evident from what Slosson girl was able to ask him in regards to the black community in LA. He hasn't even fucking thought of it,

Because that's not what his purpose is. His purpose is the people who are funding him, what is it that you need for me to do? Let me get it done. And I think I'm more baffled by the people who aren't that you named thinking that Spencer Pratt is the solution for a better L.A. for them. He is not going to solve those problems that are crucial for you as an average person who lives in this city. Well said. And here we are again. And here we are again.

it before. That's what I think. I said this to somebody on Twitter. I was kind of going a little bit. This guy who gets on my nerves on Twitter. And I was kind of saying stuff. And they're like, you're talking about a national issue. We're talking about local. And I'm like, you're not getting it. You're just not seeing it. It's the same thing. You're right. And this is something that frustrates me. And it doesn't just frustrate me with low information voters, right? Because we often call people low information voters and I think sometimes that

actually bites us in the ass. It bites people in the ass when you call somebody I agree. And the reason why I say that is because like emotion is information. We wish that it wasn't but it is. Emotion is information.

It is. It's actually to me some of the most compelling information that human beings share between each other. Think about it. When you see somebody crying, you go,

oh my God, I have to do something. Like, you go over, you don't know why they're crying. They could be crying because of rage. They could be crying because of frustration. They could be crying tears of joy. But immediately,

you look at them and you say, what's wrong? How are you? You see somebody's energy low. They're brooding a little bit. You use the emotional information that you know about them, whether or not they're normally a person that's turned up and fun and happening,

you go, what's wrong? Emotion is some of the deepest information that we have on each other and some of the most fundamental information. So when we call people low information voters, we're not holding space for the fact that their emotions are being manipulated. And they're asking a lot of times, these politicians, they're asking for people to mirror them. So like if the reason why I try to be policy and consistency centered is because that is the way you, to me, really get to the point of what the central question we're asking politicians is, which is do you give a fuck about me?

Because if I ask you, do you give a fuck about me and you say, yeah, I'm mad and you're mad. I'm like, okay, here's a deal, though. I know that we're both mad. I know that everyone's angry and upset, but if you care about me and you are seeking power, you have a plan, you have a way to get me out of my situation. You have a way to get me to a place where I'm doing better. That is how a politician actually shows concern.

They don't show concern by going, I'm right here from where you from. I look exactly like you. I sound exactly like you. I am you. We oftentimes fall for that because we're getting emotional information from a politician that says, hey, because you are from where I'm from, because you are me, you must care about what's going on with me. That's not true. What would show that that person cares about you is whether or not they have detailed thoughts, plans, and actionable policy on the condition of your life. That would show that they care.

And so with Spencer Pratt, he's mirroring people. He realizes, like, I'm not too much different than what the mayor said when she was, he realizes people are mad, people are upset, people don't know who's to blame for some of the dysfunction they see in L.A. And rather than do anything that would solve the problem or put forth any policy that would solve the problem, he says, I'm mad just like you are. I'm going to take all these people in Send them to Seattle. I'm just telling people, Spencer Pratt, that's true, but also a lot of the centrist. There's Democrats that you support that aren't offering you anything that aren't like seriously interrogating your needs that like a lot of the people from inside your own cohort that don't seem to have the wherewithal to challenge some of the traditional power in America to make your life better. You should be asking this about all of them. Everyone.

There are no sacred cows or sacred lambs or sacred little doggies, even though I love little doggies. there's nobody right now that you should not be asking okay cool you want to be in congress for the next 50 years what's in it for me and and so sometimes it's easy to call out spencer pratt when he's on that but it's harder to call out the candidates that look like us that come from the places that we come from that've been sitting there for a long time and can tell you every reason why they never got anything done but nothing that they actually did fucking do and there are plenty of good ones out there and that's definitely true, but at the same time, cynicism to all of these people, including Spencer Pratt, and including a lot of the people, some surprising names on this list

that are going for this. Some surprising names on this list that are going for this and supporting him. Some surprising ones. I'm not even going to bullshit you. I still can be surprised. I've seen like an exhausted list. No, I care.

I care. The niggins who did the power. I care so much. I'm exhausted. The way people are coming after me. Oh, Rachel, you're so privileged.

How can you speak? That's what they say? That doesn't even make any sense. You're right. You're right. I have grown up privileged. And I'm not voting in a privileged way. Whatever.

I'm over people. They're getting at you. They're getting at your, Rachel. What are they saying about you? I'll get them. Oh, you know, I'm so used to people getting at me. But I think I'm just. get at me, but like make it make sense.

Make it make sense. You need to like turn me on somebody? I'll get them. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're not there. I've been blocking one person a day. So if I jump on Twitter and you just come with a street. Because sometimes...

I can't believe you're still over there. Sometimes I do. Sometimes I'll say, hey, guys, who's the greatest intercontinental champion of all time. And they'll be like, you fucking stupid, fat, black bastard. It's definitely Mr. Perfect. Block right away.

Just one. The rest of them, just one. It's a lot of that over there. Yeah. That's a lot. You know, I don't know how you still over there handling all that, but, you know. It happens. Up your block, two a day.

Two a day? I don't want to block too many people, though, because that's kind of pussy. It's just, it's insane over there. Now, come on. Can I say something? You know, if people are wondering why I'm a little turnt up today, do you feel, do you feel it? Donnie, do you feel me being a little turt up today?

No. It feels the same. Yeah, I wouldn't say, this is you like every day. Fuck y'all, man. I'm on the espresso. I got an ice espresso today. I see it. I see it.

I'm not going to lie. But you seem fine. Like, you don't seem over the, to me, honestly, for you to be drinking an espresso, You do not seem over the top today at all. These are compliments, Van. You seem fine. Thank you. Thank you very much.

I'm losing weight. Hell of you. Congratulations. Yeah, I'm losing weight, man. It's happening. You see it in your face. You see it in my face? Thank you.

Thank you. Donnie has said nothing. I compliment Donnie all the time. Donnie to me, I want to get Donnie's whole family in Essence magazine. They still have Essence magazine? Don't know. is a beautiful family. He has a fucking amazing family.

Multi-generations, too. Like, he has a fucking amazing family. But Don't he doesn't, I never get any love from Don't get any love from Donnie. I was asking about your 10,000 steps this morning. We didn't get to finish talking about it. Are you doing that? I really want to get on that. How long does it take you to walk 10,000 steps?

Okay, Van, come on. Just move on, move the conversation on. I take it back. You are on one. The espresso has you on one. You're such a kid. You're such a kid. Come on, Rachel.

That's a tough one. That's a tough one. That's one of them. I would like to participate in 10,000 steps. How long does it take you to do that? Okay. So all throughout my 30s, I did it. It was very easy.

I took three walks a day at TMZ. And then I would do that and workout. So most of the time, most of the days, throughout my 30s, I was averaging maybe. 16, 17,000 steps a day. I take one walk and then I would come back.

I take a longer walk at lunch and then I will come back and I would take a shorter walk around the parking lot at the end. Had to get out because there no windows in there. There are no windows in teams the office. No windows can't see anything. So I'd have to get some sun, you know what I mean?

But now I wake up and in the morning, it's in the morning around the neighborhood. I do one 10,000 step walk. So I just get every single day. And that takes about like an hour, Or 15, maybe a little bit more. Okay, I can do that. Not bad.

You're taller than me. It probably would be about. I bet you walk faster. I bet your pace would be faster. You'd be a big guy. So one hour 15 and then I do that and you finish the day with a good amount of steps. And then whatever workout that you do on top of that is gravy. And also I feel better.

My joints feel better. I feel better. I'm sleeping better. All of that stuff. I was off the 10,000 steps. And it's been good for the Achilles, too. It's hope the Achilles. Okay.

a freaky Atlanta shit, Donnie? Yeah. According to a newly released judicial misconduct order, a federal judge and a high-ranking police official are at the center of allegations involving noisy sexual encounters inside the judge's chambers during work hours. The allegations sent from a 20-page investigative report

compiled after complaint was filed against the judge. According to the report, employees working in the office told investigators that they could hear silence with the walls they believe were those sexual encounters taking place. Investigators said the incidents allegedly occurred over a two-year period and involved at least five encounters. Now, the report doesn't publicly identify the judge or officer involved, but multiple sources confirmed that the individuals referenced are U.S. District Judge Eleanor Ross and Atlanta Police Deputy Chief Kelly Collier. Okay, these people are black.

So we're not going to avoid that. It seems as if, from what everyone is saying, they were fucking in the chambers. They could hear the sounds through the walls. So they were going crazy. These incidents, it's like two years of them fucking in the chambers. What is the reason that they are having sex in the chambers?

Is this kink or was everybody married in this situation? everyone is married but that does not stop you from going to a hotel another city there were options there were options well

there are but in this situation there's probably reasons that they're doing it at that time because they're probably doing it during the day so I don't have to stay out late you don't have to leave right so you don't have to like make an excuse to go to some hotel somewhere.

People don't know where you at. You're having sex inside of the chambers. That's probably easier to conceal than anything else that you would be out there doing. Well, clearly not because I saw one video. I don't know if that was real or not where you could hear noises. I also wanted to say that I saw this story and I said, I'm just going to scroll past it because I don't want to breathe life into it. But I knew it would find, breathe life into it.

I knew it would find its way to you. And I knew that you would put this up to talk of it. about. I just knew it. This is a story that's right up your alley. You like this kind of stuff. I don't understand why it had to be done in the office. I don't care what you say. There are in a federal judge's chambers, in a federal judge's chambers, they're huge, right? But around you, you have your secretary assistant right outside your office. You have law clerks that are clerking straight out of law school or in law school within it. You have like your court reporter has an office there.

You have other researchers that are full time employed there. There are multiple people within your entire chambers that make this operation work. So for you to be in your office, it's definitely a kink. Like you wanted to be heard. You wanted the thrill of being caught. This was intentional. So have you ever seen The Wire? Yes.

So remember when the mayor who was played by Was that? Who's it? Was that Glenn Termin who played the mayor? Might have been. Yeah, I think so. That was Glenn Termin. Don, you remember the scene in the Wire?

Yeah, I know what you're talking about. So I don't know if Glenn was wearing a prosthetic or what. But, you know, the mayor was in his office. getting hit up, you know what I'm saying? And we see in the wire a couple of different times of them getting busy in these types of situations, which leads me to believe since, you know, Simon created the wire based upon stuff that he heard

and he knew his time as, you know, at the Baltimore Sun, that this is probably more common than you think. I believe that. Which leads me to my next question, Rachel. Van. What? This should not lead you to where I think you're trying to go with this. This should not lead you anywhere near this area.

What? You know, just as a change of pace to put some spark back? What? No, no, no, no. Don't you bring that over here anywhere near the Lindsay's. To keep it. This does not, this does not be. this is a pattern on how

federal district judges behave. Okay, this is, this is an Eleanor Ross situation and leave it over there. Just like as a, you know, to keep the sizzle in relationship. There are so many other ways that you can do it.

Don't bring that Eleanor Ross shit over here. Don't bring that over here. This one, listen. Oh my God. You know what I also think that she didn't have a problem doing it? because like this position is appointed you got to be impeached she knew she would still be able to keep her position

there's some freaky ass shit going on in Atlanta man Fannie Willis they getting busy they getting busy man now the fed's trying to get her out of her position do you think she should be able to keep her position if she was fucking in the chambers true or false yes or no

yeah I mean it's not like she was doing it to a subordinate now the only way I would say is if some way this deputy police chief was involved in some of her, like for some reason was involved in something in a federal way and it came in front of her and then you would have to question her judgment, then that's a reason that she should be removed because now it's a professional thing. This is highly unprofessional, but the fact that she wasn't with the subordinate, she wasn't doing it in the hallway where people can see, I think that she should be reprimanded, but I'm not sure if I think that she should be removed from her position.

as long as it doesn't affect her ability to be a judge. So you're saying, okay, I think maybe. She's already being publicly reprimanded. She's being publicly reprimanded. I should say they're not asking for a removal. They're asking for her to be recused from this one specific case. So you think there's nothing. Oh, yeah, she should be recused from her case.

Is there anything? This Wikipedia is so messy. Okay. Wikipedia is so messy. The investigation found that she had engaged in a sexual relationship with Atlanta deputy police chief, Kelly Collier, in parentheses, not her husband. Just to be clear.

In chambers during business hours at times within in-shot of law clerks, and that that relationship pose a potential conflict of interest because he is the deputy of the police situation here. So there's nothing, because I don't know as much about this. So fucking in the chambers to you, in and of itself, is not enough for you to get kicked out of your shit? I don't think so.

Okay. As you said, it's probably more common than we think. Yeah. Probably way more common. There are people we could ask about this. I think that if in any way that you, it hinders your ability to do your job professionally or it affects the way that you see cases,

then that's when it becomes a problem. But the fact that it's the police chief, I mean, listen, she probably deals with more civil cases than criminal at all that don't even touch anything that have to do with this Kelly Collier, who I will also add is married, okay? They put in parentheses, not her husband. Well, he got a wife too. Okay, so is.

I'm not trying to play the type of games. I'm just saying, I'm looking at it. I wanted to know your opinion on this because this is right, you know, up your alleyway. This is your expertise. You know, I personally think. Her husband's a judge, too. I think we should do a whole series called Under the Robe. Where we go throughout.

And we ask judges about the freak shit that they're doing in their chambers. Because you know what? The chambers are... Most would not say that they were doing anything. I bet you. Like why would somebody want to go on record and talk about that? 27% is my number. 27% of the judges.

judges that have chambers, especially if they're nice chambers. 27% of the judges that have chambers are private place where the judge is the overlord. 27% of them, I believe, have fucked in the chambers. Okay. Got a handy J. Something. That is based off of nothing. I mean, it's based off, I mean, look, in Atlanta, with Fonnie Willis was going through

and this right here, I could actually say in Atlanta is probably like fucking 67%. It's Magic City in the fucking chambers right now. We don't know anything about Fonnie in her office. You just know that she was having a relationship with somebody. Man, where did it all start? All right. So, like, what I'm saying is I'm not even trying to come down on this because I have no problem with this. This is, you know, people do.

I'm not making any moral judgments of people. I just wonder how widespread it is. That's all I'm saying. Donnie, I sent you something. Oh, I saw this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, mountain lime. Don't try to act like. Beautiful.

Don't try. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you don't get to do that. Van. Don't try to act like, don't try to act like, Donnie, play my sound when you get a chance. Don't try to act like that you, like, you have forgotten about him. You thought he was gone. I think a lot of people thought, I have not. That look at him, beautiful.

Beautiful. P-22-level eyes right there. I told you years ago, years ago. watch where you step, watch where you breathe, watch where you go. Because there is a visitor and a neighbor

that you share LA with. His name is Mountain Lion. And you told me a long time ago that I was making it up, that I was a heretic. All right? And I'm telling you right now.

Cruent hiking for me. I believe to you. Look at him. Look at this beautiful creature of Mountain Lion, lying in weight. You never. know. You go past a bush in L.A.

Mount Lion. You go past a tree in L.A. Mount Lion. You go past an overpass. Under the pass, Mount Lion. You have no clue where he is, where she is, what's going on with them. Mount, look at him. Look at him. I told you years ago, and look. It's majestic.

Donnie, remember when Van thought that Mount Lion was real on the roof? Put up a picture for us. See, Bernard hasn't been here. Come on, Dawn. Bernard hasn't been here for Mount Lion. He got so excited. I can't win on this podcast.

Like Rachel has a Rachel, Rachel missed out on something. Rachel would have been the greatest litigator of her time. Rachel missed out on something. I've never seen somebody that's able to deflect, that's able to re-pivot. Either that or politician, Rachel.

That's not, by the way, what she's doing right now, it's fucked up. Because that is not the version of the picture that I saw. saw. Show it to the picture that I saw. That's not what I saw.

The version of the picture that I saw is from much further back. You were so excited when you saw this out of the band. That's not real. Just to let you guys know,

I have an ironclad example of Mount Lion. And Rachel pulls up some old shit. That's actually not even fair because Donnie, could you take it off, please?

Did you take it down? Like, people got the picture. All right? That I didn't, that's not even what I saw. It was very. from way further back than that. So.

I thought about you when I saw this. I'm happy that this, like, is reminding you of your love of Mount Lion and, you know, in remembrance of P-22. I'm glad they were able to safely get him. And I hope that, you know, remove him and put him back, you know, in a safe place. Because, you know, it's sad because you know he was probably just like looking for some food. Look like he was chilling to me. Really, it's not Mountain Lion that we have to be worried about in LA right now, even though Mount Lion is back.

It's coyote. Coyote everywhere. The fires have just unleashed the coyote on L.A. You see coyotes everywhere, like, sitting down to eat meals and Starbucks, all kinds of shit. Like, coyotes is, like, everywhere across the city right now. More coyotes than anything. Yeah, they think somebody's poisoning them in my neighborhood because they found, like, which is awful. They found two dead ones.

like early in the morning. And then my neighbor a couple of, like last week, found one dead in her yard. And so like they think somebody's putting some stuff out, which is like dangerous just to animals in general. Like, I'm nervous about coyotes too. I have two dogs. I have a little one.

But that's not, that's, that's in, that's ridiculous. That's not the way to do it. Donnie says the last report. That's not, Donnie. That's me. What are you putting in there? What is that? The only time there was another,

judge was it was uh scott stinner in 2014 he had two law students that he had sex in his chamber with and appointed them i know that ain't bernard that's bernard over there's bernard coming through bernard orange county super the road orange county superior court under the road all right before we get out of here we got we have a i mean interview we're about to get to it's not for this episode so to hell with you guys but before we get out of here Rachel who's your favorite celebrity like your favorite famous person

I don't have one I don't have a you don't have a favorite famous person do you no but I thought that you would okay who is who's somebody that you like right now and don't pick Durabinar

because we don't like him we fucking love him okay if I could give a if I could give a 10 year run selling 200 million records to anyone. A lot of people, it would be,

I mean, I would have to always say Wale because I fuck with Waleigh, and that's like, my guy. Walee's upset right now that people are like, he's kind of, he stepped into the JZ thing. You know, people were breaking down

lyrically what JZ was saying. He's like, y'all only want to do that when it comes to rap beefs, not when we're just out of your putting out music. I'm paraphrasing, but that was the thing. Follet, I've got a lot of music for friends.

But Duran Bernard's way up, way up on that list. I guess what I'm saying is, Is there anybody right now that if you bought a $2,000 VIP section at a club, you bought this, you paid two grand. Let's say we're at everyday people. We're going to everyday people. I bought a section.

We're going to get the section, right? And we're there hanging out and I don't know. Fucking, who's somebody that we love? Juvenile for me. Juvenile. Let's say juvenile shows up and they say, hey, we want to move. you from the $2,000 section because juvenile is here. We want juvenile

to have the section. Would you move and get out of your section and move off of the stage so that juvenile can happen? If he let me say I would. I tell all y'all, y'all got to go. Rachel.

What? That's maybe the most putrid answer you can get. So you would leave, you would stay with juvenile. We got to go. Are you going to be at the Did I pay for it? I'd be like y'all, y'all know

how much of a fan I am. I get to party with one of my favorite artists. I feel like as a friend, you would be like, you know what, friend? Go ahead. Yeah, I love Juvie. By the way, Juvie going to DM you. I love Juvie.

But I'm not giving up the section for no one. And this actually happened to a YouTuber named Mike. Adelabo? It looks like Adelabo. He refused to give up his... Huh? Bo?

Mike Adelabu. Shout out to all my West Africans. He bought a $2,000 VIP section and little baby came in. They asked him to move and this happened. No, we're not going nowhere.

We're not going nowhere. We're not going nowhere. Hey, we're not going nowhere. We're not going nowhere. We're not going nowhere. We're not going nowhere. Call whoever you want to call. We're not going to know.

So I know you paid already for this side. So what's the time? All we're doing, that's how it's going to be with the rest. We know that y'all pay. We're not telling y'all that you're not going to have a section. We're just not to move y'all to make room for little babies. That's all. To where?

We got three boots for y'all right now on the other side of the people. Well, no. Because you got to understand. If niggas pay for to be on stage, that's what we're supposed to be at? You know what I'm saying? If you pay $2,000 for something, what's you're going to do? You're going to be on stage. You're not going to be out there.

So it's there, bro. I got to tell you, I never heard of this guy before this. I think. this gave me hope I'm serious this gave me hope this gave me hope that we can win the war

against Dick Rodden and I'll tell you why this guy Mike was streaming it seems right he's a YouTuber it seems like he was streaming to me a lot of people in that situation

would have given up the section that they paid for. He paid to be on the stage. He paid to be with his people. He's doing well enough to where he can spend the $2,000 to where he can be on the stage flossing, doing his thing. That's his right. He's streaming.

A lot of people would have given up their table or their section so that they could get some FaceTime with Baby on stream. a lot and I didn't see the whole thing maybe he did later a lot of people would have been like hey you know what or just use the stream to like dick ride little baby the reality is why in the fuck would you come over to me after I have paid for the section I have paid to be on the stage I didn't pay for little baby to be the man that means nothing to me it means nothing to me it means nothing to me that little baby is the man. I paid so I could be the man. How dare you walk over here and ask me to give up my shit

that I paid to be the man at so the next man could be the man. What kind of shit are we living in? If little baby didn't get there in time or if little baby didn't buy a section on the stage, then little baby got to go with little babies go word, love to him. Why? When I move after I, even if you come back to me, you got to come back to me.

Give me 10 grand. I'll go. Give me 10 grand, I'll go. Give me enough money so I could buy tables for the next month. If you believe in tables and all of that kind of shit, if you give me enough money so that I could come here for a whole month if you want me to move. I'm not moving for a little baby. And this guy, no part of him wanted to dick ride, wanted to hang on little babies. This is not about little baby.

Hang on little baby's dick. be a round little baby, be cool with a little baby, be all super I eat with a little baby, do all of that. How about I'm the man? Talk about that. I bought the section. So I'm the man. These women will drinketh of my patrol.

These women will drinketh of my pineapple juice. These women will drinketh of my Hennessy. I am the man. And I was happy that this man did not dick ride and give up his section that he paid for so somebody else could come over and. be the man in his shit. It's his shit. Where was this? I have no goddamn clue.

Because it happens all the time in Vegas. What happens? Like, you'll have a table. You'll have bought a table and you'll come in and they'll be like, nah, so-and-so's coming in. We gave your table away. It gave your table away.

You know, cool. If they make you do it, then you ain't got no motherfucking choice. What's you going to do? Like, go to war inside the club. But if they come over and they ask you, Yeah, this is wild. I've never seen something like this before. Normally, they'll just be like, we gave your table away. Or, you know, so-and-so is going to sit in the section.

Or we moved you from the table you had. And then, you know, you don't spend your money. Oh, so this was Liv. The club is called Live in Miami. Thank you, Bernard. The club is called Live in Miami. We never heard of that. Bernard, do you not know about Live?

Bernard, like, we don't know. No, I haven't been to Miami like that. I just know who I've never heard of Club Live? Mm-mm. You're fired. Damn. How's that? Okay.

I think it's a generational thing. You're off the podcast. I think people that understand. I can't say, yeah, I've been there. I'm not saying that you've been there, but you've never heard of it before. Oh, heard of it, yeah. I don't know. You're lying now.

Heard of it and been. It's a generational thing. I don't think the 26-year-olds are talking about club live like that. Is that true? Donna, you know club live, do you not? We just say live, by the way. Can we stop saying club live? It's live.

Yeah, I do. But it was more about, I first heard about it because of the heat like celebrating there. So this is like 2012. Heat went there. Live is where I guess Puff and Drake got into it.

Live is like a story club of Miami. Yeah, it was in all the rap songs. Live on Sunday. King of Diamond's Monday. Okay, well. Shout out to Mike and shout out to all the people over there that still are having

their goddamn dignity. God damn, man. It's not dick riding and the next man for any type of clout. Shout out to this guy, bro. I just got to say, man, shout out to this nigga. I looked at this and I was like, and he was confident too. He asked security.

He was like, what would you do? He's like, no. He's like, we're going to move you over here. He's like, where? We got some booth for it. He's like, no. Like, no. By the way, I didn't know you could get a table at live for a section that lived for 2000.

2000, right? You think it's more. That's not bad. All right. All right. Tell you thing, caps off, but do not stop learning. I am Van Lathen Jr. I'm Rachel and Lindsay. Bye guys.