Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay - Mask Mandate Lifted, and Earning a Punch from Mike Tyson
Episode Date: April 22, 2022Van Lathan and the Higher Learning crew wish Rachel Lindsay a happy birthday before discussing mixed reactions to the lifting of the transportation mask mandate (22:05). Plus, Mike Tyson punches a guy... on a plane (31:45), DJ Envy and wife Gia Casey talk 10 years of faking orgasms (1:05:22), and a Black mayor declares April to be Confederates History Month (1:15:20). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Trudy Joseph and Donnie Beacham Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors.
What is up?
Higher learning is on.
It is I, Van Lathan, Jr.
And it's me, Rachel Lynn, Lindsay.
Rachel birthday!
Donnie!
Truly!
It's a celebration.
I don't believe in working on my birthday, but, you know, for higher learning.
Of course I'm here.
Where else would I be?
Everybody take a shot.
It's Rachel's 19th birthday.
Rachel's 19th birthday.
Everybody take a shot.
I have a shot of smoothie.
Let's go.
Take it now.
Take it to the hair.
Wait,
Donnie,
what are you drinking?
This is crown.
This is more than a shot,
but I'm not,
so I'm not taking all of this.
You sipping.
You sipping it.
Yeah.
Trudy.
I got back Daniel's honey.
And I got some tequila.
Yeah, all right.
Everybody take a shot.
One, two, three.
Happy birthday, Rach.
One, two, three.
Happy birthday, Rach.
Boom.
Took smoothie to the head.
I'm a real man's man.
Rachel, how are you feeling on your birthday?
You know, I feel good.
I feel blessed.
I feel blessed.
Needed the chaser of the Red Bull.
I feel blessed, you know.
It's been a heavy 2020 so far.
Just professionally, personally.
So I just feel grateful.
I woke up this morning.
I feel very grateful.
Yeah, you know, it's another day.
Didn't do anything crazy.
Next year I'm going to be more proactive about doing something for my birthday.
Last year, same thing.
I worked.
Brian and I had a little getaway before, but I actually want to spend time doing something
for my birthday.
So this year it's been good.
Everybody's been so sweet and thoughtful.
Trudy and Donnie, you guys can click your,
you can go back, I don't know what you think you're doing.
Thank you for you.
Thanks guys.
I appreciate you guys.
Trying to horn in on the podcast.
Donnie, I know what you're doing, Donnie.
They got real comfortable.
Donnie, I see you trying to take over.
I see you.
We know.
They like you more than me.
I don't give a, Donnie, I see you trying to take over.
I see you.
You can't see me.
I see you, Donnie.
So you don't have any special plans for your birthday this weekend.
It's like, oh, by the way, I would like to say, happy birthday, Tukalika, Abrams.
Kalika's birthday, too.
Birthday twins.
Birthdays birthday as well.
Birthday twins.
Special little beautiful mouse.
Her birthday, she's like, a little beautiful.
Hey, baby.
How you doing, baby?
Do you have anything going on this weekend?
No.
Well, yes and no.
We went to OC last weekend.
That was a pre-birthday celebration.
Brian's friends coming in town.
We're going to do a little something tomorrow.
And then I'm having massages with one of my oldest friends.
I don't even know how long it's been since we met.
I mean, I feel like I've known her my whole life.
She lives out here.
So we're going to have massages.
And yeah, and then it's super chill.
Sunday, I'm doing the L.A. book festival.
So I'm doing a panel there.
That'll be fun.
Bookfest.
But, you know, but we've already heard of Miss Me with that.
What we're dying to hear about is
Fat Crazy and Tails for the Transformation.
Why are you trying to play me with the thing?
Like you're, anybody that's watching this right now.
Fat Crazy and Tire Tales of the Trisor's Transformation is in stores 426.
And Rachel is playing me right now.
Look at the way I look.
If you're watching it, we were trying to figure out how to make my little background
into the book cover, which my publishers have wanted me to do.
And so I did it.
And while I was trying to do it,
Rachel took a screenshot of that.
And now it's her background.
I'm just promoting you.
I'm excited for you.
Next week is a big week.
It's a big week.
I got a lot of press coming up, you know.
I have a lot of press.
You're not doing extra.
No.
You're not doing extra.
Nobody asks me to do extra.
We're going to put you on extra.
Yeah, sure.
Nobody asks me to you.
I'm doing Kimmel.
Kimmel on the 24th.
Ooh.
You're going to sit on the couch.
Kimmel on May 24th, though.
May 24th.
But you're going to pre-tape it.
Are you going to do it?
Are you actually going to do it May 24th?
I'll do it then.
Yeah.
So May 24th, I'm going to do Kimmel.
That's big deal.
That's huge.
It's huge.
Breakfast Club next week.
I did Lewis Houses podcast.
Shout out to Lewis House, School of Greatness.
I got to be real with you.
Very, very raw interview.
Okay.
The book, people read the book and they're like,
I start the Stacks podcast.
I did the Stacks podcast.
People read the book and they're like,
you're so vulnerable in the book.
You're like,
it's like,
books are vulnerable.
They're vulnerable tools,
you know,
it's a tool to be vulnerable.
I'm so,
I'm so afraid of this book coming out.
I'm not going to.
Yeah,
but there's power in being able to go there
and putting that out there
and allowing other people to,
to receive that because it's about you.
It's personal.
So not everybody expects you to be able to
do that. So I think that's why people are beautifully surprised by it.
Rachel, do you eat goat meat? No. I don't even know what that is.
Goat meat, the meat of a goat. Do you eat that? No. So when you go to like the islands,
you don't eat goat, goat, goat, goat, you don't eat that. I've never even seen goat meat
on the menu when I've been in the islands. And why do we, why do we move? Is this in the book?
No. What like what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?
What island that do you go to and they don't have goat meat?
I've never seen.
I've been to Turks and Caicos.
I've been to a couple of the saints.
I've been to Jamaica.
And you don't go nowhere.
Hold on.
Hold on for a second.
Wait a minute.
So you've been to all of these islands and you've never been to any place where they got the
G-G unit, goat unit on the menu?
If they have, I've just.
It didn't stand out to me.
I don't ever remember seeing goat meat on the menu.
But why are we talking about this more importantly?
Like, how did we move to this?
I just want to know if you've tried it.
I haven't.
Is it good?
It is good.
Ew.
Donnie, Trudy, have you guys eaten goat?
I have.
Of course you did, Donnie.
I mean, it was mixed.
Was it in the islands?
No, I've never been to the islands.
It was in Atlanta.
right did you like the goat i trust that it was it was it was it was good it was uh mixed up in a bunch
of stuff it was like a stew ew goat's cute trudy what about you goat meat
goat i've never i'm picky though like i'm a really picky eater so am i
i got to be honest with y'all like it so what meats have you eaten rachel have you eaten venison
Okay, very good, right?
It's okay.
It's a little tough.
No, it's not.
It's not true.
Maybe I had bad.
Maybe I had bad.
Had a bad, bad batch.
Bad batch of venison.
Bad batch is also a Star Wars show.
I've tasted it.
I, duck, lamb.
Rabbit?
No, never had rabbit.
Rabbit's great.
Rabbit tastes good.
No goat, huh?
Lamb, you like lamb.
Lamb, you like lamb.
Lamb chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop.
I like lamb.
I like lamb.
We had some kind of.
weird meat when I was in
Norway. We went to a shop
but I wouldn't eat it like
Brian had to take it. We were on The Bachelor
and he was eating random
things.
But I, but see I'm picky. I'm like
Trudy. I don't understand.
I have no curiosity.
When we were in Finland, people were eating
bear. I have
there's nothing in me that says
ah, I wonder what that tastes
like. I'm good.
There are enough meats to go around.
I would never, I would never, I would never eat a bear.
And it's, and it's, you have to cook it a certain way.
You can easily get sick from bear.
So it's a very particular way it has to be made.
The bear, I feel like I have too much.
See, here's the thing about eating animals.
People really only eat the animals they don't respect.
That's not true.
That's very true.
People only eat the animals they don't respect.
Like right now, you eat fish, right?
Yeah.
Right now, if someone said, we're going to sit down there, we're going to have a meal, a meal is going to be orca.
We're going to eat killer whale.
I wouldn't eat it well.
Because you respect him.
No, because it just sounds, do people eat whale?
Of course.
But you wouldn't eat a whale, I'm telling you, because you.
respect the whale. You don't respect the salmon. A salmon has a life that the salmon loves,
okay? The salmon swim around, salmon having fun, tuna, swim around. I bet you love ahi,
ahi, I mean, like tuna swim around. Ahi, Ahi, is it Ahi Ahi, Ahi or Mahi-Mahi? I think it's just
Ahi and then it's mahi mahi mahi, tuna swim around. They swim around, they love, right? They do the thing.
We eat the tuna.
You respect.
You respect him.
You think he's smart.
You think he's capable.
The dolphin wouldn't eat him, I bet.
You know why?
Do people eat dolphin?
They don't eat a dolphin because we respect the dolphin.
Or maybe it's just not meant to be eaten.
Why would it not meant to be eaten?
Not everything tastes great.
Not meat tastes different.
I know.
But the question is, but not all of these meats taste amazing.
I love pigs.
I want a pet pig.
I've always had a fascination with them.
You don't respect to him.
No, I've always had a fascination with them, but I love port.
Rachel, you don't respect the pig.
You might like the pig.
I, you might like the pig.
If you respect this conversation.
I'm going to be honest with you.
What?
What?
You don't.
If you respected the pig, you'd have the pet pig.
You don't.
You have a pet.
You have a dog.
Because pigs are really smart.
And I hear they need more than one.
And I don't have the space for two.
I've done like I really love pigs I have names picked out and everything I'm going to take you at your word with the pig but I'm going to tell you right now I'm going to tell you right now somewhere along the lines you don't respect the pig no because you like him too much that's why I don't have a pet pig because I do respect pigs and I couldn't give it the proper like setting that it would need but I'm also going to eat it would you eat a bald eagle have you not heard of
me talk about birds.
I think birds are demonic.
I think they are the most disgusting.
But you eat a chicken.
See, here's the thing.
There's no difference.
Like you eat it.
You eat a chicken?
You hate chicken?
Like the animals.
You're right.
I have no respect.
I have no respect for chicken.
You're not going to eat a bald eagle, but you will eat it's chicken because we only
eat animals that we don't respect.
I'm telling you.
I don't know why we, I don't know why some of the animals that we eat when you break it down,
they're actually like majestic.
Do you know how fucking cool a lobster is?
A lobster is cool.
I don't eat lobster.
They could like almost, there's something about a lobster where they could live forever or some weird shit.
And then they like octopus, super cool.
We eat them.
Like they're like the cool, but we don't respect them.
We don't.
Where did this come from?
Did you read something that you eat?
eat something that you feel a certain way.
We don't respect the lobster.
We don't respect the octopus.
And those animals are really cool.
We just don't respect them.
We only eat animals.
We don't respect.
Okay.
When it comes to fish and things of the sea, you're absolutely right.
I could care less.
I don't even really consider them animals.
Wait a minute.
I'm going to get so much trouble for this.
Glove themselves to the floor of the podcast.
I could care less about a salmon, a shrimp.
I'm sorry.
I don't.
I don't catfish.
I don't care.
I don't.
I don't care about them.
Dolphins, yes.
I actually have fascination with dolphins.
Because you respect them.
You're right.
Because a dolphin does things that you respect.
I feel like fish are meant to be eaten.
Sorry.
Well,
look, here's the thing about that.
Everything, most things are meant to be eaten.
Because most things are in the food chain.
You know?
So most things are meant to be eaten.
And it's just an interesting way in how you should live in symbiosis with the nature.
But most things, there are only a couple of really truly apex predators that were really not meant to be eaten.
And maybe the or the orca is the apex predator, which is really maybe why we don't think about eating him.
But most things are meant to be eating.
For example, we eat the deer, but we don't eat the animals that pretext.
on the deer. Maybe it's the fact
that these are apex predators that
we don't, maybe we have a respect for them because we're
an apex predator.
We respect. It's all about respect. Do people
eat lion? I'm sure
they do, but like it doesn't feel right
because we respect them.
It doesn't feel like to eat elephant.
We respect the elephant.
I'm good with the pork,
the chicken, the beef.
I don't need to venture
past that fish. I don't need to
venture past that. I'm good. Let's play a,
Let's play a game show real quick called Animal Games.
Are you down?
Sure.
All right.
So everybody, right now, everybody pop your screen on.
Welcome back, guys.
Welcome back.
It's time for Animal Games.
I'm obsessed with the fact that we don't know anything about animals.
We're starting with Trudy.
Trudy, Animal Games.
You have 15 seconds to name five mammals.
Go.
You, an elephant.
A tiger, a deer, a bear, a dog.
Boom, boom.
Animal games, Trudy one point.
Donnie, you have 15 seconds to name five members of the marsupial family.
Oh, 15 seconds, animal games.
Go, Donnie.
Go, Donnie, go.
Kangaroo.
Wallaby?
There's like a dog.
Tasmanian devil.
That counts.
Tick, tick, tick.
Wow.
Tick, tick, tick, tick.
Boom!
You lose.
Animal games.
I wouldn't have named one.
Rachel, are you ready for animal games?
No, I quit.
You lost me at marsupial.
Oh my God.
Every Thursday, we're going to do animal.
Every one of those things you named, Donnie, I thought were mammals.
Every Thursday.
They are.
They are mammals as well?
Okay.
We're going to do animal games.
Rachel, animal games for you.
You have 15 seconds to name five amphibious creatures.
Frog.
Boom.
A gecko.
Is that a reptile?
It's a reptile.
I don't think it's amphibians.
It might be, I'll give it to you.
Okay.
A crocodile.
Yes.
Yes, Rachel.
Yes.
An alligator.
Yes.
Rachel, they're different.
You got one more.
Come on, Rachel.
Amphibians.
Think about it.
They slither around.
That's a reptile.
I'm confusing them with reptiles.
There are reptiles who are amphibious.
It's the same.
Snakes.
Yes.
A water model.
is also amphibious.
Well, that counts us to sake.
Or maybe it's not.
You know what, by the way, I'm governing animal games right now.
I'm governing animal games.
And I don't really know if I'm right about any of these things.
I don't know.
Donnie, check this out.
I don't know if Gecko is amphibious.
Secondly, is a moccasin amphibious?
I'm sure.
Okay.
Frogs, toes, salamanders, noots.
Gecko's got to fit in there.
Got to be one of them.
Yeah.
Is a water moccas and amphibious?
This is a reptile and a salamander is an amphibian.
Damn.
Trudy, you're supposed to be with me.
I'm sorry.
I don't think there are that many amphibians.
I could, I don't see five.
It's five amphibians.
God wouldn't have bothered to make the amphibians if it was less than five of them.
Water snakes are not amphibious.
Damn.
So I was wrong too.
So water snakes.
are not amphibious.
All right.
So who's going to give me
an animal games category
before we leave?
Animal games.
And I'm going to eat Donnie.
Make it hard.
Donnie.
Let's play animal games right now
and then we can get to
the rest of the depressing ass podcast
because the news stories
that we have to cover
are not great to sue.
I'm still trying to find five amphibians.
I'm sorry, y'all.
There aren't.
There's not five different amphibians?
No, because they're,
no, they're like 20 different
types of frogs
that are considered amphibians.
So this is what we're going to do.
Next Thursday, we're going to have the Thought Warriors come up with the Animal Games questions
because I'm obsessed about people learning more about animals.
And then, Donnie, you're going to ask me and Rachel the Animal Games questions.
And we're going to have, we're going to go back and forth.
And we're going to start having, our guests are going to have to, everyone's going to learn more about animals due to this podcast.
We don't know enough about animals.
I'm serious about it.
Name five invertebrates.
Invertebrates.
A worm.
a scorpion, an ant, a mosquito, and a, a, a, a, a mosquito, and a fucking gnat.
I don't know.
Worms is right for sure.
And then insects are invertebrates, right?
All the guy to do is name.
Insects, yep.
So if I name a bunch of, I wonder if all those insects count under one thing, though, if I can't name different insects.
No, yeah.
Apparently worms are, crustaceans, I believe are.
Arachnids.
Right.
Yeah, so I think I fucked that up.
So look, are you guys down for every Thursday animal games?
Didn't we just go through all of them?
No, Rachel.
For some reason, Rachel, you don't want to learn.
more about animals.
We have to learn more about animals, guys.
We have to.
I'm sorry.
I don't consider the invertebrates animals.
They're animals.
What are they then?
They're like, what are they?
It's an animal.
Worthless.
Gross.
But you've heard me talk about birds.
I cannot stand birds.
If they all just,
I just have a fear of them.
I'm very terrified of birds.
Were you about to get rid of all the world's birds?
What kind of savage are you?
The skies is just bare because Rachel has gotten rid of all the birds.
Would you miss it?
Honestly, honestly.
If you looked up and never saw a bird in the sky, would you notice?
Yes.
Trudy?
I knew it.
Nope.
This ass bird just landed on my little balcony thing and scared me.
I think it was like, does California got bald eagles?
because I feel like it was there.
Yeah, I found a mysterious feather in my backyard yesterday.
I want to move.
This is the worst conversation we've ever had on the podcast.
This is like, Trudy Donnie, go back on the thing.
It's time for the big deal of the day.
Goodbye.
We'll see you back this Thursday for Animal Games.
Give us some Animal Games questions.
Donnie collate these questions and then Animal Games.
And you know what?
I challenge the Thought Warriors.
I challenge the Thought Warriors for animal games.
I challenge you guys.
I don't think y'all know either.
Anything about animals.
We've got to learn more about animals.
I'll challenge you guys to Animal Games.
No, this is going to be me the entire time during Animal Games.
All right, we're going to take a break.
Come back with the big deal of the day.
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dash terms. Okay. The Justice Department appeals the ruling lifting the transit mask mandate
after CDC request. The Department of Justice has moved to appeal of ruling that struck down the
federal mask mandate on planes, trains, and transit systems after a request by the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
Of course, everybody heard this.
An appeals judge, an appeals court judge ruled that the mask mandate as enforced by airlines and trains in different places, buses, was unconstitutional, struck it down.
And everybody burned their masks in jubilant freedom and said, it's time to get back to things.
people. It was a revolt on Twitter.
Well, now, Department of Justice
has moved to appeal this ruling.
On Monday,
U.S. District
Judge Catherine Kimball
Mazzel was the one for the
Middle District of Guess Where?
Florida ruled that the travel
mask mandate was unlawful,
arguing that the CDC had overstepped
its legal authority by imposing the mandate
in February 2021.
Now, airline passengers have had mixed results to this.
Some people, some people were like, hey, it's great, we don't have to wear masks anymore.
Other people were like, it's going to be a coffee, coffee situation.
Now, we should say that states can still choose to keep mask mandates for state-run public transportation.
But yeah, so there are places in the country right now where COVID is spying.
Yet it seems like we're not masking.
Roe your thoughts about this, Rachel.
I am hoping.
I know that the Justice Department has appealed this,
the judge's ruling,
and I'm hoping that that ruling is overturned.
Because as you just mentioned,
COVID is still spiking in certain places.
We just saw Philadelphia implement their indoor mask policy.
They brought it back.
And I would imagine that they won't be the only city to do that.
Sadly, we're not done with this.
We're not anywhere close to being done with it.
And I don't think it's too much to ask passengers on a plane to wear their mask.
I plan on wearing mine.
I don't think it's that big of a deal.
But I think I was a little shocked.
I thought, and I know people are divided on masks,
but I thought when it came to planes or public transportation,
I really thought the majority of the people really wanted to continue down this way
or at least wanted to,
we're going to even when it was lifted.
Like, I know me, I'm like, you know what?
Why do we never wear masks on planes?
I'm going to continue to do that.
I just feel like we're in such close proximity to one another.
You've seen other people do it.
It makes sense to me.
After going through a global pandemic,
I want to continue to wear masks on public transport,
forms of transportation.
I'm shocked at how quickly people were to jump to this
and how quickly flight attendants were.
to rip their mask off and walk down the aisles and get other people to throw down their mask.
I really hope that they at least follow in line with what the federal mandate is,
which is to continue it through May 3rd and hopefully it continues after that.
But we'll see.
We'll see.
I mean, I feel like this is the first step also into the new normal, right?
Some people will wear masks.
Some people won't.
This will just be the way of the world.
but I guess I'm shocked at the overwhelming number of people that are excited about this.
So this week, DJ K. Slai died.
Do you know who that is?
Yes.
The drama king.
Yes.
So DJ K Slai died of COVID, 55 years old.
DJ K Slai was a gigantic figure in hip-hop, huge figure in hip-hop, particularly New Orleans,
particularly New York hip-hip-hop, but really just hip-hop period.
He died of COVID, 55 years old.
I know.
Whether or not you guys want to admit it or not, whether or not we admit it or not, whether
or not we talk about it or not, COVID is still killing people.
There are people who have not had COVID yet.
There are people who don't have, who still have preexisting conditions from COVID.
COVID is still killing people.
Look, there's blame to go around to everyone as to why we don't have a clear set of directives
for how to deal with COVID.
One is that we demanded a clear set of directives,
and it's hard to get one with a disease,
or excuse me, with a virus that was novel.
So we wanted to know what was true and what was false,
and the reality was, well, some things are true today, false tomorrow.
Some things are false today, true tomorrow.
And that's just the nature of dealing with the new pathogen, right?
dealing with the new phenomenon,
you're going to learn things and unlearn them.
But the way our society is built now,
we are not programmed to learn and unlearn on the fly.
We're programmed to take a side and destroy the middle, right?
We're programmed to take aside and fight with one another.
So COVID was the perfect thing to force us into our bunkers.
I get that.
Having said that,
I do feel like it was incumbent.
upon the people who are the higher-ups and in charge of the American public health apparatus
to be more forthright and be a little bit more forthcoming or be better communicator,
should I say, about the ever-evolving nature of that.
I'm not saying that they didn't.
Well, see, I, and the reason why I say that is because when these statements are coming out,
a lot of times for a lot of people who didn't really dig into some of these things,
they were spoken like law and they weren't spoken like what they really are,
which are best practices.
We don't have anything that can stop COVID in its tracks.
Nothing.
We don't have anything that can really stop any disease in its tracks.
We have things that are highly effective.
Well, we have our best practices.
And there's a way that you communicate that.
and I don't feel it was communicated like that the way that it should be.
At first, don't do this, then do do this, then say, then after that, like for,
do something else.
So for a lot of people that was confusing for them.
Never was confusing for me, but I could see how it was confusing for some people.
To me, if the mask would help you 1%, if the mask would help you 2%, if there is a, if the mask,
if there's a 1% chance that you don't end up like our dear brother Kay Slay on a ventilator,
dead at 55 when you have so much life left to live,
to me personally,
I don't understand why you wouldn't want to wear it.
And if you can mitigate the spread of COVID by any percentage in public,
especially on planes where people are flying around,
I just don't see why you wouldn't want to do it.
It seems like our society is stuck on stupid.
it, we are silly gooses and we're going to get kicked in our cabooses.
That's all I think.
Rhyming over there.
Oh, daddy.
I just think it goes back to it's human nature for people to only care about the things that directly impact them.
And even though you're mentioning, you know, DJ K. Slay, it doesn't directly impact people.
They're so far removed, it's to them, it's just another person or it's just that.
that small percentage of people that die from it and they don't think that it will affect them.
And they don't think about it because it's out of sight, out of mind of the other people that
they're impacting.
The people who have these conditions that are susceptible to this virus that can make them a lot more sick
or possibly even die from it.
They don't think about that unless it directly impacts them.
And that's the problem.
Also, what's the problem is we've been dealing with this for two years at this point.
So people are normalized by COVID in our society, sadly.
It doesn't hit the same way it did in March 2020 when there was so much unknown and we didn't know what this virus could do to us.
Now people are like, I've had it once, I've had it twice.
I know this person who's had it and we can get past it.
And that's how they're looking at it.
So because we know that to be the case, then why do we need to continue wearing our mask?
We're all going to get it at some point.
Like that's the way people think about it.
It's now so a part of our society.
We're looking at it in a completely different way than we did two years ago when we first knew about it.
And that's the problem.
That's human nature.
Yeah.
Here's the thing.
Sea belts are for safety.
You don't wear your seat belt.
You get a ticket.
I think it should be the same thing.
You get on there, you don't wear your deal.
You should have to pay extra.
And then the extra money you pay for not wearing the mask.
We take it all.
and we use it to buy vaccines in countries that need them.
Because I'll be honest with you.
Like at some point you got to do what's right for the greater good.
See Bill's save lives.
Mass saved lives.
Where to fucking mass?
We'll see what happens.
All right.
It's time to move on to Is This fucked up?
And I'm fired up about this, Rach.
Mike Tyson was on a flight.
Sitting in first class.
It looked like it was very nice.
And a fucking buffoon.
Wouldn't leave Mike Tyson alone.
Donnie, give me the audio.
This is George song to Mike Tyson, bro.
This shit crazy, bro, Mike Tyson.
Maddoin got lit, man.
He'll be a rapper with Tyson.
Mike Tyson trying to give us some shrooms.
You don't know how to act.
Tyson looking out, man.
This shit crazy is fuck.
He should have never gave you his money.
Peasants.
They're peasants.
Wait, who says that?
Wait, what's that last part of that audio?
I haven't heard that.
What was that?
Oh, you hear that part?
You didn't hear it?
Run it again, Donnie.
Donnie, bring it back.
Who set that?
The guy holding the camera says,
we should have never give you niggas money.
And then the other guy says,
peasants.
They never gave you his money.
Peasants.
And he's talking to Mike Tyson,
talking about we should never gave y'all niggas money?
I don't know if who the guy holding the camera is talking about,
but I know that in,
I know that in reaction to him saying that
the other guy says peasants.
Mike Tyson didn't enjoy that.
After the harassment, Tyson got up,
asked him to chill.
He didn't.
So Mike punched him in his shit a bunch of times.
Donnie, give me the audio of the punches.
Hey, Mike, Mike, come on.
Let's go stop back.
100% on Mike Tyson's side.
You're fired up about it.
Go.
100% on Mike Tyson.
inside. 100% when the, it's going to be, that's just the way I feel.
When the Will Smith, Chris Rock thing happened, what I said was, I didn't, I said I didn't,
we couldn't approve of conflict resolution, violence is conflict resolution between two black men.
This is a situation that is not between two black men.
So I would like to make a distinction right there.
Situation where a guy
kept fucking with someone
over and over and over again
was asked to chill,
was clearly drunk
and learned the hard way.
Is this assault?
Yeah.
It's assault.
It's definitely a salt.
It's certainly a salt.
But
I'm having
an incredible time
finding anything wrong with this.
I really am.
I'm having,
I need to be bigger.
I need to be the bigger person,
but I'm not.
You fucked around
and got your shit checked
and you asked for it.
This is what you wanted to happen.
You wanted this.
I feel,
I don't know
what the fuck you thought
was going to happen.
Like,
I was on a plane
going somewhere
and I saw something
that was amazing.
I saw a lady who was sleeping, right?
That's in first class.
I saw a lady who was sleeping.
She's in the aisle seat.
No, actually, the lady who was sleeping was in a window seat.
The other lady was in an aisle seat.
The aisle seat lady reached over the window seat lady
when the window seat lady was sleeping
and closed her little lid.
I've seen this happened before.
Right?
Close her little lid.
the lady and when she did this she accidentally spilled some ginger ale on the lady
the lady woke up it was like yo what are you doing it's like no you were sleeping i just
wanted to i don't want to wake you up to actually don't reach over me don't reach into my space
a little fracas got popped off things are touchy on an airplane is my point they're touchy
people want their space they want domain and dominion over their space this guy is like
taunting him. What the fuck? I mean, I'm sorry. I'm a call him. I'm a thug. I'm one of those thugs.
Where do you think I stand on this? I think you would have probably took a fork and stabbed the guy in
his neck and watched the blood ooze out of his body. I think you probably would have like
taken, you know, the ginger ale can and twisted it into a knife and waited for the guy to jump up and jumped on
his back and stabbed them several times
watched the blood ooze out and then
looked at everybody else and was like, y'all have a fucking problem?
Wow.
Because I'll use it again. That's what I thought.
Okay. Okay.
Are we done?
First of all, my first thought
when I saw this. I think you would have took
your shoe off and
made a noose out of it
like a strangled thing and jumped
on the guy's back and strangled
to the death and like then turn around
as the life was draining from his
eyes and locked eyes with him and was like him.
You shouldn't have fucked up like in the equalizer.
So my first thought when I saw this video is we're the flight attendants.
Okay, you pay all this money for first class.
It clearly was a long flight.
He's going from San Francisco to Florida, I believe.
He was in a lie down type.
See, kind of, maybe not.
Pay all this money to have your space, quiet time to be attended on.
And then this is happening.
Where are the flight attendants and why are they not doing their job?
What I would have initially done is, I'm sorry, where are the flight attendant?
Flight attendant doesn't want to do their job.
Looks like I got to take matters into my own hand.
Hands.
I would have been talking back.
I would have definitely had something to say.
Once I heard the N-word used, I'm throwing hands.
I'm choking you.
I'm slapping you.
I'm punching you.
I'm doing something.
And to add to that,
Mike Tyson's camp is saying
that he threw a water bottle at him.
And that is when he lost control.
I'm sorry.
I've talked about this before multiple times on the podcast.
I'm already a little like feeling a certain way on a plane.
I just like to keep to my,
I like to be quiet to my space.
And I'm sure Mike Tyson is that.
Everybody recognizes Mike Tyson.
He probably already got on that plane
with people wanting pictures, with people wanting to talk to him,
with people wanting to be like, hey, champ, like throw punches at him.
I'm sure he was like over it.
Then you get on the plane.
All you want to do is sit there, watch a movie, maybe read or just go to sleep.
Or maybe do some work.
I don't know what Mike Tyson was doing.
And then you're being harassed.
Okay, what Mike Tyson might have done is assault,
but this guy was harassing him.
Another crime.
And it wasn't stopping.
And sometimes, so I agree with you.
I immediately thought about people going to get on us because of what we said about the Will Smith,
Chris Rock situation, but to me is two totally different things. Chris Rock said a joke. Will Smith
overreacted. This was harassment. He kept going and going. And in addition to him verbally harassing
him, you had somebody else filming it. At one point, you see Mike Tyson look over like, come on,
y'all are filming this? It's like they wanted a reaction out of him. You want a reaction? I'm going to give
your reaction. I wholeheartedly agree with what Mike Tyson did, especially if you heard him say
the N-word. You're harassing me in my personal space, you threw a water bottle at me, and you
set the N-word, or peasants or whatever. Those are fighting words. Would you like to hear my last scenario
for how you would have dealt with it? Go ahead. You can't help yourself. I think you'd have gone to the
front, switched into a flight attendant's uniform.
waited to meal service
and then put strict nine
into guys' food
put what
strict nine
stop
into his food
and then as he ate the food
you'd stand there just looking at him like
night
look
I don't like violence man
but
but can we agree
sometimes you just got to get a niggas
No, we can't.
We can't agree that words of violence.
They're not.
But we literally...
No, no, no.
You've literally said that the N-word is violent.
The N-word is...
We've had that conversation.
The N-word is special.
There's another...
Because, like, the N-word is the exception, not the rule.
Well, that word was used.
The N-word is the exception, not the rule.
There's very few words, to me, and people can...
People will have other words, but there are very two words to me that just invoke.
I can think of maybe one other, one shout out to my Jewish brothers and sisters, that invoke
the deaths of 100 million people, you know, and like the degradation of all of that.
And just like they're very, it's the word to me is a singular flashpoint word that means
subhuman thing that you can kill.
Well, that word was used.
Also, was Mike Tyson wearing a mask?
Probably not.
I don't think so.
He probably was that guy
didn't look like he was wearing a mask either.
Well, him, like, kind of falls in line
with how he's done.
But you know what, though?
Like, sometimes
that drunk white boy shit,
sometimes you just got to get yours, man.
Like, you know,
shout out, do God what he wanted.
He probably going to get paid.
That's what I hate.
He did all of that,
and then he went straight to the police.
You know what I mean?
He knew exactly what he was doing.
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Okay, Syracuse.
The police in Syracuse are under scrutiny after video shows officers detaining a crying boy.
A review of Syracuse police actions is underway.
After a video of a young boy being stopped by officers went viral, give me the audio, Donnie.
What is y'all doing?
What are you doing?
Take a guess what I mean.
They're like a baby to me.
Why are you?
I don't know what you're doing.
I just said you're snatching my.
So what's going on then?
You're stealing stuff.
If you break into your house, you steal something?
Nah, man, who's like a bag of shit?
So y'all treat me like a whole-cold-blooded fucking killer?
Keep walking, dude.
You don't even know what you're talking.
I do that.
I know what I just came up and see?
I know what the fuck I just came up and see?
Okay, what did you see?
I see y'all snatching him up the bike like your fucking grown-ass man.
And he said it wasn't here.
What is y'all doing?
It's crazy.
Yo, man.
It's a full-time job to not just like.
get consumed with hate.
Like, you got to work overtime.
You got to work
overtime.
To not just hate everything.
So in the video,
in case you guys haven't seen it, one of the officers
takes both of the kids' arms,
holds him from behind.
The kid is still screaming, crying.
And they take him to the back of the police car.
The video was,
recorded
by a gentleman
who
was curious about why the police
were treating
the kid like this.
I think the kid was
nine years old.
Donnie checked that for me.
The Syracuse police
has said that the boys
suspected of larceny.
He wasn't put in handcuffs
and no charges were filed.
He was brought home
and the officers met with the child's father.
They said
the boy's father,
Anthony Wee
spoke with Syracuse.com
about the incident.
Why would the police treat a child like that
over a $3 bag of chips?
He told the news.
He says he wants to file a complaint against the police department.
He's eight years old.
He's eight.
Eight years old.
Born in 2014.
Born in 2014, I was 34.
He's eight.
So,
There are lots of deep-seated things that you can talk about when we're dealing with this.
We can talk about the state of policing.
We can talk about the mental toll that that takes on young black men.
We can talk about the toll that it takes on us by watching the video and hearing the audio.
But it seems like we're pissing in the wind.
And the only thing left is resentment.
I just hate them and I wish I didn't.
You hate who, the police?
Yeah, man.
I'm not saying like we don't like need cops.
Just like, it's just.
It just points to another instance where, like you're saying,
it's not that you don't need him,
but it just points to another instance
and it doesn't seem to stop.
And mind you, these are just the instances
that are captured on audio or video or that somebody's lived to tell a story about.
It makes no sense why this was done.
And then there was a statistic that said, like, 2,600 arrests have been made for children between the ages of 5 and 9,
or something wild like that.
Why in the world, when in New York, you have to be 12.
to be arrested and they'll say he wasn't arrested, he was detained. It doesn't matter. Why in the world
was this necessary? If you were trying to send a message, you obviously have no well, like,
don't care about the well-being of that child and how traumatizing this will be for him for the rest of
his life. He is eight years old. I don't know how he viewed police before, but he will never
view police the same again.
And anybody who's watching that video?
Like, that is, I just can't stop thinking that child wailing.
I had to stop watching the video, wailing over and over again, screaming.
Yes, he might have done something stealing a bag of chips or whatever he was suspected of doing.
But the fact that you did that to this child, you could have easily gotten the same message
across of asking him what he did or don't do it or taking him home to his father.
And you know what I mean?
Like without having to do the dramatics of that.
And then being so forceful with it when someone was questioning you about it,
as if treating this child like he's not a human being.
I think that was the most gut-wrenching thing of the entire video.
They weren't even treating him like he was a human being.
So when people ask questions about police and how they handle certain situations,
it's these instances that we have to continue to sadly point to.
that's tough
I didn't watch the full video
Are you familiar with the relationship between Batman and the Joker?
I think so enough
So it's like
Batman
is
Who he is
Because of something that happened to him as a kid
Right
The youth is scarred Bruce Wayne has PTSD right
Right
But the reason why Batman and the Joker
are the most compelling hero villain duo
in all of comic books
is because they need each other.
Like they need each other.
Like Batman and the Joker,
the Joker necessitates Batman
and Batman necessitates the Joker.
The Joker is an anarchist,
a crazy
homicidally
insane
psychopathic killer
with absolutely zero code
nothing matters
Batman
is meticulous
is full of code
and conduct
and all about what he won't do
could have killed the Joker years ago
but he just won't kill him right
so in that you have this state of
order in Gotham City. One guy
represents this, the other guy represents that.
But they are, they need each other.
And it's like, if they didn't have each other, they would create each other.
If Batman didn't have the Joker, he would create a Joker.
If the Joker didn't have Batman, he would create a Batman.
I think that black people are the police's Joker.
I think that the police don't know.
need crime to justify their existence.
They need black people.
Forget about crime.
Crime is too vague of a thing.
All kinds of people commit crimes.
Jaywalking is a crime.
You know what I mean?
Speeding is a crime.
Stealing hundreds of millions of dollars from people in a posy scheme.
That's a crime.
Crime is not the thing that the cops need.
What the cops need is an entity, an entity to demonize, an entity to make them feel strong, an entity to make them feel necessary.
And crime isn't that entity because it can't be because it's too abstract.
Crime means so many things.
But a people can be that entity.
Like a people can be that.
You can say, hey, there's the group.
They embody everything that we're trying to stop.
What that cop said to that man was,
what about when this kid is climbing through your window,
stealing something out of your house?
Do you understand the gulf of difference
between jacking a $3 bag of chips in a store?
If that's in fact what that young man did.
Right.
The gulf of difference between that.
and breaking and entering,
flocking in somebody's house.
Do you understand how big of a difference that is?
That is night and day.
Like night and day.
We understand that.
Like, stop going, start going around black or white
and ask people if they've ever stole anything out of the store.
Like, stop, go around, black or white.
Black or white, like,
Winona Ryder, stealing out of the store.
Like, go around, black.
or white, start asking people black and white if they ever stole anything out of the store.
Right.
That cop created the version of the criminal that he needed that kid to be in order to justify
what it was that he was doing to him.
And he did that in the face of somebody else who was asking the pertinent and relevant
questions about, yo, why are you doing them that way?
The cop created who he needed that kid to be to justify that.
As a comic book nerd, I see that all the time.
I see how these characters are inextricably linked,
how they complete one another.
The Joker actually says to Batman in the Dark Night,
you complete me.
So I don't understand how, and by the way,
we know in comic books that these characters are destined to do this forever.
That's the reason why you watch the book.
That's the reason why the books, the reason why you read the book, the reason why you watch the movies is because they never figure it out.
There's no figuring it out with them.
Like there's no figuring it out.
You know what?
I thought you were going to say because I don't know the comic book version of Batman and the Joker.
I only know from what I've seen in the movies.
And I thought you were going to say, which everything you say makes perfect sense.
And you're teaching me something because obviously I don't know that dynamic of them.
Yeah.
because you don't really get that deep in the movie.
But what I've noticed from my short time of watching these DC films
is that the more I watch Batman,
I understand the way that he is from the trauma that happened to him
at a very young age in watching the death of his parents and how
and everything that fell out from that.
He is who he is because of what happened to him when he was younger.
This is what I thought you were going to say.
When you watch The Joker, which might be one of my favorite movies,
when you watch The Joker, you have a level of empathy for the Joker
and you actually understand why he became the Joker based on the trauma that he has gone through in his life.
And I never expected that when I watched that movie, but I was like, my gosh, I get it.
I get why Batman's the way that he is, why he became the Batman, Bruce Wayne.
I get why the Joker has become who he is because he what he went through.
Tried to fight it, but was basically like, this is how the world treats me.
This is how I'm responding just to survive.
That's what I took from it.
That young child, because of what he has gone through, and who else knows what else he's been through or what he's going through,
but what he has gone through the trauma at the hands of the police and now that the public is involved,
he, it is going to impact who he becomes in life.
It is going to impact his relationship with police.
It's going to impact how he views them.
And it's going to be interesting.
And I think that you can look at black people as a whole and say,
I can understand why black people feel the way they do about the justice system and about
police because of the trauma that they have suffered,
maybe similar to this child, similar they've seen from a family member,
what they've experienced later in life,
but that is why they become who they are.
They think the way that they are.
It's a sense of survival
because of what they've experienced in their life.
That's what I thought you were going to say.
Do you like how I did a DC thing?
You like that.
You're in your bag right now.
How about that?
In the DC thing.
Yeah, but that's where I thought you were going to go.
But I like the way you thought of it,
but then it just made me think of that element of it as well,
which is why I don't, you know,
I don't nerd out over the comic books,
but there is something about
Batman and that world
that I am so intrigued by
and I get it.
Yeah, right.
It's crazy people doing stuff.
I get it.
You know, the interesting thing about the Joker movie
is like all of those characters,
there's only one thing that makes all us
be able to understand all of those characters like that
is the whiteness, right?
Because like if a kid becomes like a menace
and he's from like Oblock in Chicago
or South Baton Rouge,
no one goes, hey, we understand why this happened to her.
They go, lock his ass up.
I want to see a movie
where a nigger goes crazy and we get it.
Maybe that movie's out there.
But I want to see that movie
about a lovable nigger killer.
Sick of it.
All right.
Now it's time to talk about Trace Onges.
And there's a video.
Came out.
Trayzons has a new accuser.
He beat the last accusation, by the way.
We didn't talk about that.
Not the girl in Vegas.
Not the basketball player.
Not the basketball player.
I don't think it was that one.
No, it wasn't.
Well,
I say he beat it.
I mean,
he beat one of the many.
He beat one.
Criminally right there.
Like,
they didn't have enough to prosecute criminally.
So,
video seemingly shows Tray Songs,
pull a woman's breast out,
and chant,
Titty in the open.
The alleged victim wants a payout.
This is a demand letter obtained by,
and was fired off
to Tray Sons and his team
Thursday by Attorney
George Vrabeck
Brayback and Ariel Mitchell
on behalf of their client, Megan Johnson,
who they alleged was sexually assaulted
by Tray Songs during a party back in August
2013.
They said that Johnson was at an event called
Foxwood's
Liquid Sundays with Tray Songs
at the Foxwood's Resort Casino
in Manch, Kentucky.
Mash Manchin tucket Manchin tucket Mishin tuck it
Mishin tuck it
One more time
Meshentucket, Connecticut
and it was there that they claimed
Megan encountered Trey at the VIP tent
And if you listen to it
If you see it
Trey clearly in this video
The lady has a bikini on
and he pulls her breasts out.
Listen to the audio here.
Okay, so while it appears that she laughed at all,
and the incident, and the incident caused lasting damage,
including severe emotional distress and self-harm.
Okay, the attorneys say that Megan was recently triggered by Trey's Vegas case, which was dropped by authorities.
The lawyers say they will drop the case if Trey settles for north of $5 million.
Rachel, your thoughts?
I mean, was it Rory who said that we're going to be talking about Trey songs the way that we talk about R. Kelly?
Yes, Rory said that.
the Rory Moll podcast.
I mean, there seems to be some truth in it.
There seems videos, not videos, but we keep hearing allegations that keep coming up from the past in regards to Tray songs.
One goes away, the next one pops up.
They just seem to be ongoing.
And the fact that he could just violate this woman in public.
pull and show her breast, just like, just yanked her clothes back.
It's just so disgusting.
And even more so that so many people were around,
you hear one person cheer in the background when he says,
Tiddy in the open.
And nobody, his friends, don't check him.
And it's just like they allowed this behavior to continue.
He saw nothing wrong with it.
He should have been screaming,
I just sexually assaulted this woman.
And instead, he said, Titty in the Open,
as if she was voluntarily showing her breast.
She didn't do that.
Why would he scream?
I just sexually assaulted this woman.
I'm saying that's what he.
No, he wouldn't.
But I'm just saying that's what he should have been saying.
Because that's what you did.
It wasn't a Titty in the Open.
You sexually assaulted her.
I, without this permission, pulled this woman's bikini open
and revealed her breast without her.
permission. That's what you should have been saying.
It wasn't a titty in the open. It's when girls
gone wild. She didn't pull it, pull out her
breast and just show them out.
Like, that's not what she wanted to do.
So just the fact that that's how he saw
it, just a titty in the open
as if she wasn't a human being, a person,
as if she didn't have feelings,
right, nothing. It was, oh,
there's a titty in the open.
He's twisted.
$5 million.
North.
North of $5 million.
a lot of people have commented on that number saying hey that's way too much money to try to get for
what they saw on camera what was appropriate what they want to ask for $20,000 do you do you want to say
something no I'm just disappointed I don't know you can't put a number on you can't put a number
people.
Yeah, like you can't put a number.
I don't know.
I don't have any thoughts about, you know, what goes on.
And I think there's actually, I think it's absolutely true that there are people that watch
all of this stuff.
They get triggered.
They remember things that happened to them.
And then now they're like, what do I do?
Like, how do I go about this?
Another thing that I'm happy about in this situation is that I'm glad that we all recognize
that that is assault because I think that there was a time when we didn't.
For sure.
I think that there was a time when we just looked at that as hygiene, horseplay fucking around.
And I think that a lot of women have probably had to endure that.
And men, too, some men too probably have had to endure that without understanding that people don't have the right to do that.
So I'm glad that we all see that now for the seriousness that it, that it holds, you know, that it brings with it.
Trey is in a hell of a situation.
He is.
Trey's in a hell of a situation.
Trey,
it seems,
and it would be difficult
to say otherwise
that all of the things
in the past of this brother
are coming back
and that there needs to be some sort
of reckoning or discussion
or something that happens.
I don't know
who Trace Songs feels like he is.
I'm, like I said, I've known
or talked in the past with Tray Songs.
I don't know who he feels like he is,
but there currently seem to be a lot of people
who feel like they know who he is.
And so there needs to be a conversation had,
at the very least, from Tray Songs to the culture,
that deals with all of this.
Somebody needs to say something.
Somebody needs to talk about it
because it's not going anywhere.
It seems as if there are breadcrumbs
being left all over this city.
This happened in Connecticut and Vegas.
I mean,
everybody can't be lying.
Well, the thing was,
to my knowledge,
there hasn't been any
like physical evidence
as far as like video or audio in regards to the allegations until now, at least publicly
that I'm aware of.
It's been this person has come out and is telling their story.
When you couple all the stories they keep coming up, now with this video where this woman
clearly did not consent to this behavior, you can't, you can't deny it.
There's some, there's a common denominator here and it is Tray Songs.
So, I mean, it seems like I keep thinking we're done talking about him and then we hear us about something else.
Well, now we're not going to be done.
This time we saw it.
Because I feel like there are a lot of women out there who if they do have a run in with him or they do have something, they will be triggered and they will want their voices to be heard.
So we'll see what happens with that.
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All right. DJ Envy has a book coming out.
I want to make sure that I,
it's called The Book is called Real Life, Real Love,
Life Lessons on Joy, Pain,
and the magic that holds us together.
He's promoting his book with his beautiful wife, Gia Casey.
And they talked about orgasms.
They talked about a little origami.
And this is what,
This is what was said.
I'm going to let you guys listen to it.
And I'm sure so many women can relate.
Like, you want to reward that man for that work.
And the only reward that you have to offer is an orgasm.
But even if I didn't feel it, I would still be performative.
So yes, I was faking it.
We got into like an argument.
And then she was like, well, you know, I don't mean having an orgasm.
She didn't say it in that.
She speaks way more eloquent than I would have.
And I was like, what?
And she was like, I don't.
I'm like, no, yes, you do I hear it?
Like, are y'all?
And then she's like, no, I'm faking it.
I'm like, every time.
And she was like, yeah.
And then that just crushed me because I thought I was putting in work.
Like, I'm sitting there thinking I'm, you know, big daddy long leg.
Big daddy long leg.
Big daddy long leg.
Rachel, what are your thoughts about this?
Do you relate to Gia Casey's plight?
Relate?
No.
Okay, first of all, let me just give a strong now.
Second, I just sold a book in January.
Yeah.
You're in the process of selling a book now.
Yeah, of course.
I get you have the pressure from your publishers, editors, agents, managers, maybe,
that you want to be on the New York Times list or some type of bestsellers list.
You want to put out things that you think will draw people in to read the book so you can increase sales.
but this wasn't it.
And I just personally feel it's just TMI.
First of all, I don't want to hear it.
I don't need to hear it.
And if that's something that you guys wanted to put in your book
because you feel like it'll help other couples, fine.
I find this utterly embarrassing for DJ Envy.
10 years?
Yeah.
10 years.
You could have said I have faked an orgasm.
Okay.
Most women have.
Yeah.
But for 10 years, I just, and that couple with some of the other stuff that has come out with him, I just, that is a lot.
I just find it's so embarrassing.
I actually feel sorry for him.
Like, as a man, as a man.
Like, when it comes to just, and I don't mean to like do gender, assign gender roles and stuff, but like, does that affect your manhood?
No, I mean, I'm not that kind of guy.
It's like, you know, here's my thing.
I do the best I can.
No, I don't.
No, no, no, no.
I don't believe that.
That's not how it goes.
I'm going to things.
I go into things with the purest of intentions.
Get out of here.
It's me.
It's you.
Let's make a secret.
I go into things with the purest of intentions.
I do my best.
I do my best.
Like, I go in.
I do my thing.
We have a good time.
some laugh. But no, but what if she's not? That's the thing. She admits to you that for 10 years, she has not been having a good time.
So let's, let's explore this. Let's say that DJ Envy and his wife had sex twice a week in those 10 years. Okay, so that's 52 weeks in a year.
Times two. That's 104 times per year that they had sex times 10. That's 1,000 fake orgasm.
It's a thousand fake orgasms.
A lot of work on her part.
So that's a thousand fake orgasms.
A grand.
A G.
That's over a thousand.
They look like a pretty frisky couple.
Let's say the number goes up to three.
52 times three equals 156 times 10.
Boom.
1,500 fakes.
Fake them out.
all right
thousand
orgasms
conservatively
faked
what's real
at that point
10 years
that's longer
than Obama was president
10 years
A year would be a long time
to be faking it
a year would
it's just
I don't know how you recover from that
and you bring up a very good point
No, you bring up a very good point.
That's me.
Every relationship is to each their own.
It's subjective, right?
But like you said, what's real?
I would just have a hard time swallowing that you've been lying to me.
And it's not like you've been lying like, I don't know with the budget or something.
It's like something that's intimate, that's special to us.
That's special to us.
you know what I mean like you I just so much of a relationship is built on intimacy
and you've been lying about our intimacy that's tough
do you know women don't know what men fake orgasms too that's fine
but he didn't say that that's not the issue do they like that regularly sometimes
it you know sometimes if it's not hidden I think it's harder it's harder for you guys
guys to fake it, I think, than it is for us, for sure.
It's harder, but sometimes it has to be done.
Sometimes it's like, so sometimes it has to be.
Sometimes like, yeah, yeah, okay, now can we go to the movies?
You know, like, it's like, you know, sometimes.
All right, now, can I go to the gym?
Is that okay?
Sometimes it has to be done.
Like, you know, like, I'm not.
It has to be done.
This is not in my.
current relationship, this is in past relationships, but like, it's like, you know,
what I'm saying is that sometimes it happens.
Sure, I get sometimes it happens, but 10 years, we're talking 10 years.
Nobody's on her because she says sometimes I have faked orgasms in my relationship.
That's what she should have said.
She said 10 years.
It's just, and then you did the math, you made it worse.
You should not have done the math.
You should not have tallied the numbers.
At minimum.
A thousand nuts
If they did once a week
It's still bad
A thousand nuts
A thousand nuts
I'm glad that they can be transparent about it
It's like it's something to talk about
A thousand nuts transparent
It's like there's just certain things
And you can call me whatever
Proved conservative
There's just certain things
We don't need to know that
And I don't think you needed to discuss that
They've had other public issues
That I think people would be very interested
To hear about
and how they got through it
without you also telling us
you faked orgasms for 10 years.
It's just a lot.
They want to share their relationship.
They can.
I'm just,
and now I'm,
and because they have opened up
their bedroom and shared their relationship,
I am now commenting on my thought
in receiving that information.
And that's just how I found.
A thousand nuts.
A whole fucking planners factory.
Anyway.
Um
future.
I don't want to talk about future guys.
I actually think that people are taking that out of context.
Oh,
you're pro future on this?
I'm on record of saying future ain't shit.
I'm pretty sure on this podcast,
but I think people are taking that whole thing out of context.
So Future said,
the future was asked if he wants more kids.
And his answer was,
by my wife,
if I ever get married.
You know what I'm saying?
I want to have kids by my wife,
of course.
it could be like three
because I've never had more than one kid by a girl.
It's honest.
So if I had two by her,
then it's like more than I had.
So I feel like it'll be more special.
Future said his kids with a wife would be more special
than his existing children is the headline.
I just think that he wasn't as eloquent.
I don't think he meant more special.
I really think he meant like,
it'll be different.
Because not that the kids, that one, that his kids will be more special because they will be with his wife.
I just think he means it'll be a different type of situation.
I think that's what he meant by saying special.
I don't think he was, when I saw it, I was like, I don't think this is that big of a deal.
He's just saying it'll be a different situation because I will have kids, have the woman I'm married to and I will have had more than one kid by her.
So it's different from the other ways I've had children.
I don't, people are, people are blowing this out of proportion.
It must be a slow news day.
Oh, well, look.
And I would never take up, I would never take up for future.
But I don't think if, if you were single, would you date future?
No.
Not at all.
There wouldn't one date?
Mm-mm.
Why not, man?
This is a great catch.
He doesn't move me that way.
That's just me personally.
He doesn't move me that way.
Yeah, you got this whole Latino thing going on.
No, that's not it either.
I get it. That's not it either.
So there's a mayor in Tennessee, Curtis Hayes, who's a black recipient of an NAACP diversity award, who showed just how diversity is, Rachel.
He signed a proclamation delegating April Confederate History Month in Livison, Tennessee.
He made an announcement.
and he was joined by six white members of the Sons of Confederate veterans.
Well, who else would join him?
He, I don't know, Kid Rock, maybe.
My point is white.
There's no party affiliation for this mayor.
Oh.
The good news, though, the sons, the Confederates, veterans website condemns racism
while commemorating the history of the Confederacy.
It's clear that the Confederacy fought loud.
and proud of support of slavery, obviously.
So I'll continue slavery and left the U.S. after the inauguration of Abe Lincoln.
Despite that, despite that, this mayor has decided to make Confederate History Month a thing.
This is a trend here.
Now, you have a larger body of states that are already commemorating Confederacy.
Florida has it.
Georgia took it off the official state calendar after the Charleston, South Carolina Church,
shooting, although it remains a state holiday.
There's a lot of other places that have Confederate Memorial Day, Alabama, South Carolina, Mississippi, all of these places.
They have it.
But this is a black man in a city making this decision.
I don't understand it.
And I got to give a percentage to it.
Okay.
Right now, the highest percentage of white man's nigger that we have is sitting at 60 from Rachel Lindsay.
Do you remember who you gave it to?
What was his name again?
Clive.
Clive.
What was the guy's name?
I don't see his face in, but I could not think of his name.
Y'all, what was his name?
Harry Lennox.
Harry Linux.
Rachel gave
60% white man's nigger
to Harry Lennox for writing the
Denzel for writing the Will Smith
article for variety.
What percentage
would this judge get
this mayor, should I say,
from Rachel Lindsay for
ushering in Confederate
Memorial Day in Levinson, Tennessee.
What percentage? I mean, I think it's obvious
here. He's off the charge.
It's a full hundred.
There is what?
There's no other way to slice this one.
My gosh.
And the picture of him just looking full.
W. M. N.
I mean, the man, it is.
Let's talk about he don't have a party affiliation.
Sir, please.
Remember y'all, he's an elected official.
Vote him out.
Vote him out.
I can't even get it.
to it.
I don't want to get into a whole thing.
I just wanted to put that on people's radar.
I don't want to talk about, like, the Confederacy and what they mean.
I'm sick of talking about dumb shit.
I'm sick of talking about...
People need to stop doing dumb shit.
What I mean is this, like, I'm sick of the dumb shit.
Like, I don't want in any way to discuss why the Confederacy is fucked up.
How long are they...
A niggas dense?
Yes.
It's a waste of time, Rachel.
that one is.
It's a waste of time
to continuously
have to talk about the same shit.
It's a fucking 150 years
later and we're still talking
about the same shit.
They lost.
They got their asses kicked.
They were slave
loving
em bred yokels.
Fuck them all.
And why do I have to
think about the Confederacy
in 2022.
Why?
Take every fucking statue down.
Take every fucking holiday off the books.
Fuck all your songs.
Fuck all your traditions.
Fuck your belt buckles.
Fuck them all.
I don't understand it.
You know what?
The Confederacy,
I've never heard.
There's only one team,
one losing team
that gets talks about as much as the Confederacy.
What's that?
The USC.
The USC that lost to Texas.
They still talking about them
like there's something special.
They lost.
USC and fucking the Confederacy.
The two fucking teams that lost.
And niggas still try to act like they're something special.
The reality is this.
You lost Confederacy.
It's over.
We don't need to remember shit.
remember what that y'all wanted to have slavery like what is there that what else is there to remember the states are still existing the good old days the states are still there it's not like there's no more louisiana there's not like there's no more south carolina it's there you remember the time that the people that ran your states turned traitor and this is not for me to make the north into some utopia where everybody was living around and playing hopscotch and that black people could do whatever they wanted to do it didn't happen to that
that at all. But we got some
fucking white man's
nigger in Tennessee. I'm sorry.
Somewhere ushering
in the past so that people
that got their, a booed in their ass
because progress wanted
to happen can feel good about the time
that they rebelled.
I'm sick of it.
I'm sick of it, Rachel. The fact that
you just compared USC to the Confederacy
is going to have some people up in arms.
Whatever.
But, you know, Texas
did win. So losing team, you lost. You lost. Yeah, we still talk about you. You lost so much.
American, like take a book out of the Germans playbook. I've talked about this before.
The world held Germany to the fire. If you want to be a part of the world again, the world
community, you have to recognize the putrid, putrid acts of Nazism.
You have to recognize how you allowed your whole country to be swept up into a megalomaniac,
psychotic, son of bitch that went around doing all of this stuff.
And Germany had to atone.
The United States has never forced itself to reconcile the goddamn disgusting history of slavery.
So that means that me at 42, in the year 2022, still have to hear about the fucking Confederacy.
Donnie, Melback.
Mailback time.
Time to read your letters and then we'll reply to them.
Oh, it's mailback time.
Write us with your queries and we'll chime in.
Okay.
The first question is from in-house.
It's coming from Chelsea Stark Jones.
In honor of Rom-com week, what's your favorite romantic?
Yeah, this is rom-com week.
What's your favorite romantic?
What's your favorite romantic?
Rachel.
All right.
I'm going to give you a white one and a black one.
White one.
My best friend's wedding.
Love it.
That's a good one.
Ooh, daddy.
That's a special one.
Black one?
I'm going to go with the wood
You not consider that a rom-com?
No
The Wood or
Yeah
The Wood is definitely not a romantic comedy
You wouldn't consider it that
No because
There's a love story there
There's a love story
Ah you know what there is
But it's like
It's more about the greatest
Relations relationship between those guys
But it's also
Yeah I mean I guess the
focal point is it, but it is such a big part
of the movie because you see them as kids
and you see them, that relationship,
you still see it as an adult.
So like you have to, yeah, okay.
You got it.
You got it. I mean... But I do love
the story of friendship and it is a coming of age movie.
And I think there's just so many different elements of it that I like.
So that's why I picked that one.
500 days of summer is mine.
And people say it's not romantic comedy.
It is. It's just not one where
things turn out well at the end for the man.
It's one where the woman in the movie
decides what she wants out of her life.
500 Days of Summer is a great movie. It's a rom-com and I love it. Next question.
All right. Next one is from A. Bird on IG. They sent this in last week. We're getting to it just now.
Who is the best drug dealer between Nino Brown, Scarface, Avon Barkstale, and Franklin
sing.
I'm going to go Avon.
Of course she's going to choose the wire.
I'm going to go Avon.
So,
Nino was,
Nina and Tony are basically the same character.
They were both destined to fall.
Like, overtly violent,
too obsessed,
didn't have enough real,
like, had a lot more
muscle than they did hustle.
Meaning, you know, not that they
weren't smart, but they just like to get it popping a little too much.
So, Nino and Tony, Franklin is dope, too.
Franklin's going to be my choice.
We don't know how it's going to turn out for Franklin quite yet.
You know, if it's anything like the story that the guy they're based on off of, you know,
everybody goes to jailer ends up.
But I still say it's Barksdale because he was just the perfect gangster and a gentleman,
man, the perfect gangster and the gentleman.
Yeah, but see, I would give that to Franklin as well.
Because what Franklin is doing that, like, a Nino didn't do is that Nino wasn't thinking big enough, right?
Everything he did was in the same area.
He didn't care about people.
I mean, my gosh, he shielded his body with the child.
He didn't care about anybody.
Everybody, there was no loyalty even to his closest friends, to his girl, nothing.
With what Franklin's doing is, like, he built a strong, or, at least he thought, a strong circle, a family and friends.
around him. He's thinking of this next generation. He's building. He's spreading out his money in
different ways. He's investing his money. He's encouraging the people around him to do better, to do more of this,
thinking that it won't last forever. I just, I got to go Franklin. Franklin. Franklin. And you'd never
suspect it to. Next one. All right. This next one is from a pristine cabinet 5019 on Reddit.
They ask, have y'all ever had sleep paralysis?
Have you ever seen a shadow person while paralyzed?
Yes and yes.
I had sleep paralysis so bad one time that I literally, like, I woke up, I'm there.
And it hasn't happened in a while.
I woke up, I'm there.
I'm like, I'm trying to move.
My body won't move.
And then all of a sudden, like my, so I was laying off the edge of the count.
the edge of the couch.
And I'm trying to move
and my body won't move.
My body will not move.
I have sleep paralysis.
And I look and I see a pair of feet.
I see a pair of feet.
Like my head is hanging off the edge of the couch.
I see a pair of feet.
But there was nobody else in the house
but me.
I see feet.
And then I freak out.
And I snap out of it.
Were you on medicine?
No.
That's enough out of you.
Downplay what I say.
No, no, no, no, because I've never had paralysis where I couldn't move.
I was sick and I had taken medicine and I saw like shadows moving.
And I was like, I'm so tired.
I can't even care if something happens or if this thing moves towards me.
And I just like, but I think I was just like drugged.
So that's why I say no, no and no.
I hope I was.
That's enough out of know back.
Do you have an unexpected ally of the week?
I do. I saw it earlier, but I'm not sure if I want to use it.
Because you're so upset about all the drag of stories that we did.
Tommy Hillfigure. Here's my unexpected ally out of the week. Tommy Hill figure launches new podcast highlighting the contributions of black creatives.
No, there's a lot of negative talks surrounding Tommy Hill figure at times, but this seems to be something nice where he's highlighted.
the great things black people are doing
and giving a voice to creatives.
So.
Good for him.
Great.
Unexpected allied.
You wouldn't expect me to say,
Tommy Hilfiger.
I wouldn't expect that either.
I mean.
That's why he's unexpected.
For the week.
He's basically giving people the money that they owe him,
that he owes them for making his shit hot in the first place.
But I feel you, Tommy.
I'm not going to be a cynic just because the fucking cops
and the Confederacy got me in my feelings today.
I hope that Batman rant goes over.
Sometimes I mix up the comic book stuff.
You know, I put it in, you know, I don't know.
I'm feeling a little bit.
I'm tired.
We'll let you know if it goes too far.
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