Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay - Mitch McConnell’s Americans and the Awkwafina Backlash

Episode Date: January 21, 2022

Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay discuss Mitch McConnell’s slip of the mind in differentiating Black people from Americans (17:04) before remembering the life and legacy of André Leon Talley (39:06). Plus, Fresh and Fit go head-to-head with Brittany Renner (41:43) and Awkwafina faces backlash after NAACP Image Award nomination (57:02).  Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Trudy Joseph and Donnie Beacham Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? Our learning is on. It is I, Van Lathen. And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay. Rachel and Lindsay has the Wild Aces hat on. I like the hat. Thank you.

It is my fan-controlled football team. We're gearing up for a new season. Yeah, yeah. FCF. If you don't know about it, get into it. Fan-control football. We can pick who we're drafting. We can sign up for teams.

Be a part of a team. You need to sign up for ownership. Get on this. I might want to be a part of that. How are you feeling physically from the ravages of COVID? I, you know, I have highs and lows. Like today has been, yesterday I felt very tired. I think I did too much a day before.

So I got an IV. And it made me feel okay, but I still, like, my cough is back now, which is a little concerning. But when I talk to other people who've had it, they said that cough will linger on for a couple of weeks. still can't fully taste and smell don't really have an appetite so what kind of cough is it

is it one of those ripping coughs or does it come from like the back of your throat it's in the back of no I feel it in my chest I feel it in my chest but I'm not like coughing anything up at the moment but sometimes I have fits where it's it's dry

but I can't stop coughing right you know what's interesting about you is you have sick nose, which I wouldn't expect you to have it. What's sick nose? When like the tip of your nose is like a little red or whatever, like when you get sick. Is it?

As a little, I can see it. You got sick nose. Like it's something that white people and select black people get. Like my, I don't want to hear anymore. What? What?

White, like, you know, like there's always a, like if you watch watch Outbreak, right? With Renee Russo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've seen that joint, right? So you watch, I bet you have.

You see Outbreak with Renee Russo. And when she turns around and it's obvious she has the metamavirus, they give her like the sick nose. The sick nose is like, well, white people turn her to rule off the red nose reindeer. You have a little sick nose.

I can, your nose looks a little inflamed. Look, it does. Trudy, be honest. Rachel has slight sick nose, doesn't she? Well, why are you shocked? First of all, I've never heard this yet. And I'm not even blowing my nose. So I'm confused as to why it's even red.

I didn't even notice it. A little shiny, yes. Red? Not so much. Trudy, does Rachel have slight sick nose? Just a little bit. I get sick nose too. I didn't know what that was a thing.

I didn't even. Yeah, it's a thing. Because like people will like I get, I get sick eyes. Like my mother can always. Look at my eyes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. People, like, people would look at me. I remember, uh, I remember going to a dance one time that, think about how, like, I was like the seventh or eighth grade and I went to this dance. I was so excited about this dance. Like, I just, I was so excited about this dance. I had like this fly silk shirt. I wore it to the dance.

What color? And it was like, okay, so it was a silk shirt, but you know, this was the early 90s. So it was one of those. It was silver. Oh, okay. It was one of those multi-patterned silk shirts that they used to like have. Like, it was one of those shirts that, Sam, see what I'm saying? It was one of those shirts that if you were watching a drug dealer,

watching a movie in the early 90s and a drug dealer had it on. You know what I mean? 100%. They're like, everybody else dressed like this, but this is how the drug dealer's dress, you know, flowing silk shirts. So I wore the shirt. I was so excited with this girl. Leanne Thune

Leanne Thune was her name Because Thune she was white Yeah yeah okay okay Yeah she was white So I was in so I was a McKinley Middle Magnet I was in the gifted program And so

McKinley Middle Magnet had the magnet program Which was mostly black Because it was in South Bad Rouge But the gifted program was pretty much all white We discussed this before So Leanne Thune Leanne was friends with Anna Fornius. Anna's Fornius was the resident hot white girl of the school.

Okay. You know what I mean? There's always one. And there was, well, the one that we wanted. It was like, God damn, Anna. Anna was like, what, it's good nuts. They all played soccer. They all played soccer.

They were a little soccer crew, whatever. So Leanne looks at me and she goes, you're sick? And I was sick. I was feeling like shit. So much to the point that my dad got pissed off because he was like, yo, see how you do this? You're going to his goddamn dance. Next time you're sick. You're taking your ass to school too.

You'll take your ass to school. You can be able to take your ass into his dance. I was feeling terrible, but I was not about to miss it. And I got there and at first the adrenaline of the dance and all the girls and stuff it was taken over. But then first thing she said when she saw me, are you sick? you look sick. And I hadn't coughed or nothing. It was the eyes.

The eyes. Yeah. Yeah. You can see you. I get the sunken in eyes. She's like, you look sick. God damn.

It might have been, you might have that sick breath too. You might have that sick breath. You might have that fever breath. This was a fever breath. It's the sinus breath. It's just bouncing right off snap. Coming at somebody's faces.

It's, it's. It smells. It smells like pestilence. It's coming from that stomach. It's coming from deep within that fever breath. Dumbic. Smells like pestilence.

I probably have it right now, but I can't smell. And Brian can't get within six feet of me. So you know what? As Brian, has Brian been living, like living his life? Because basically he's single right now. You know what? You're going too far. He is.

Why? He can't get near you. So when I go. go out of town? He's single too? Is that your, is that your logic? When I'm out of town,

he's single? Kind of, but it's not the same way, though, because you still, because when you go out of town, he's not single because he still has to stay tethered to you. You know what I mean? But now, any tethering that he gets to you is dangerous for him.

So he has to really pretend like you're not there or else he's going to, he's going to want to come all the time and be near you. and he's going to get sick. So now Brian's out there, man. Stop. I think I've seen him roller skating down in it. What? That's what I imagine.

That's what Brian would be doing in his free time. I don't even think, I don't even think Brian knows how to skate. Big ass dig on a skates. Think about his big ass. Like, you at least going to put him at Mussel Beach. You put him on roller skates down.

Then his beat. He's roller skating. six foot six ass on some rollers, case rolls a lot of people do it. People do it. He's six four. He's six to. He at least six four.

He's six two. I don't know. I'm taller than Brian. It doesn't seem like it. He projects tall. He projects tall. He would love to know that that's what you think. Yeah.

Yeah, he's six too. All right. Okay. Let's get into it. We both have news coming up. Um, miss me with that. No, no. I'll, you go first.

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Because if all of our thought warriors get a copy of the book, okay? Everyone, I want everyone to get a copy of the book. We might be fucking with the New York Times bestseller list. We might get it. You need you guys go out there and get a copy of the book. So I'm not, people who are asking me, they're like, do you want to be New York Times or Seller? I don't want, like, I'm just so proud that I put a book together that it's like that I was

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I did this and 10 this. Like you can skip around, read how you want to read. So, you know, just get it because I just think it's really great. Just get it. And as for me, little news today. We got a show coming out, me, 50 Cent, Mona Scott Young, hip hop homicides. Has it already been recorded? No.

Okay. We did. So we start shooting May 16th. Well, we're already picked up. It's amazing. shooting May, excuse me, March 16th, March 16th we start shooting. It's about all

of the unsolved murders. Looking deeper into the unsolved murders in hip hop. Hopefully one day a show like this will not exist. But for this point, I think it's important to contextualize the moment that we're

in. Also, to put a magnifying glass on law enforcement. Oh, are you doing that too? And uncover some numbers. Yeah, just about how poor law enforcement is in finding justice for the families and finding justice for the victim's families in this situation. Will we see stories where law enforcement was actually involved with some of these murders? Yes. Yes.

That's how you tease the show. This is going to be so good. Congratulations. That's huge. And let's just be honest, everything that 50 touches turns to gold. So, I mean, if I could come to set and he could just touch me, I would be, I would be, and by that, I mean, in an appropriate way before you better take that. He got away. Brian is single.

Brian is, you, you heard what she just said. Brian the single. Headline. Rachel Lindsay says, we could actually do that. We could easily break that out. Rachel Lindsay says her life would be complete. She would just come to set and touch her. her. Wow.

I'll see, look at you. Look at you. That's the Holy Ghost right there. That's the Holy Ghost making sure you get you a little quickening. That's a little quick in it. Tell me to get back on the get right. Anyways, congratulations. Huge accomplishment.

You're working with some phenomenal people. So that's awesome. Yay. I remember when 50 leaked this and wasn't supposed to. So I'm glad that now you can actually talk about it and it's coming to fruition. when he said it before we had even flying the contract. You know what he did?

He manifested it. He put a picture up of you holes in that Grammy. That's so funny. So when is he coming on the podcast? We can get him on any time. Yeah, he wants to promote the show. Come on. We'll get him in the spring.

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Okay. We're going to do Trudy's Corner. It's happening. It's coming. All right. It's going to happen. We're going to get back on schedule with Trudy's Corner on Monday. I do want to read, I do want to read a message that I got.

Oh, gosh. Are we doing it now? We're doing the corner. No, no, no, no, no. This is from something else. I ask people, what's the most trifling that they've ever been? Okay. I've asked them this.

I said, what's the most trifling that you've ever been with bills? And I got some pretty interesting responses to that question. One of them in particular comes from a person who asked me specifically not to be named. Now, here's the situation. Whenever someone asks not to be named, you know they're about to give you some good shit. Right. All right. This one is one that I really love because this is a story of someone overcoming the draconian financing systems of America.

Okay. Van Series question. Would like to remain anonymous, LOL, but about five years ago, I thought it would be a good idea to get a used car. life happened and only made two payments. Luckily, was able to keep it parked in an underground garage, two levels below ground behind two gates. And definitely, as I own the spot. What?

Two levels below ground and two gates? Two gates. It's like the first circle of hell. Where is this man? Yeah, yeah. After a year and a half, they realized they had no chance of getting the car. And I negotiated to buy a $27,000 car for $5,000

and to remove the late payments on my credit and just showed it as paid off. I also did this with two student loans after college. I had a loan that was $23,000 and paid $10 at L.O.L. I would never advise this. do it again, but it works if you don't care about your credit score at that moment.

My dude, you know who you are, I know who you are. My G. You're the fucking realist. No, he's not. Because he just said... He is by far the realest. No, no, no. If you're willing to mess up your credit score, then more people could do that.

Tell me you did it and kept an amazing credit score. Like, I... It's leers later. My credit score is just... You know, it's funny? I got a as we did that podcast I got an email it's almost as like the people heard me I got an email then your credit score has gone up yet again

emails about their credit score I don't people who are watching it to try to buy homes isn't so people who are making sure well I'm saying well I'm saying so because I am constantly watching I want to make sure that it stays above seven whatever so that when we have to do the financing for the home I'm around I'm around 800 now baby I'm all the way up Don't they say if you check what I say

Don't they say if you check your credit score a lot It goes down like it takes hits If you run your credit a lot Okay Yeah if you run your credit a lot You know what I said What I said to you is I say hey I got the credit baby Yeah

Who are you supposed to be right now Who? I have no idea Not sure if it was actually appropriate Which is why I asked I gave you a chance to save yourself. But see, the reality is that I've been doing that voice for a long time.

We don't know that. And I would still ask you, who are you supposed to be right now? Maybe my sister used to do those voices. We had names for the characters that they were. Wow. See, what was normal in your household may not have been normal in the next one. What was the name of that character, man? I can't remember.

I'd have to call. Ask Ebony. It was like, it was something like that. Or like, oh, something. I was able to bleep that out. Take that out. I actually bleep that. All the people think about what it is.

It's like, we've been doing it. We've been doing it since kids, since we chose. Which is why you think it's normal. You need somebody, a third party to hear it to be like, um, maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe don't do that. Maybe not. All right.

Let's talk about Mitch McConnell. He is, of course, the Senate Minority Leader. Minority. he seemed to imply Wednesday that black Americans aren't true Americans I'm not going to run down the whole thing that he said Donnie just play it

What's your message for voters of color who are concerned that without the John out of Lewis voting rights act you're not going to be able to involve in the midterm Well the concern is misplaced because if you look at the statistics African American voters are voting in just as high percentage as Americans

Now, Rachel, when you heard this, obviously, this is being used to put out the line of thinking that in his heart of hearts, Mitch McConnell doesn't view African Americans as Americans, that there is some sort of delineating line between who he thinks is American and who he thinks isn't. Here in that clip, do you agree with that assumption? Yeah. And even furthermore, the reporter asked him about people of color. And he chose to speak about African Americans, right? Like people of color encompasses BIPAC, the entire community. Yet he said African Americans and then compared them to Americans. Like it's so, if you really pay attention to everything he's saying,

it's so obvious how he really feels about black people in general, right? The question wasn't even about black people. and he chose to talk about black people and then separate them from actual Americans. That isn't a slip of the tongue. This has been everywhere. He has yet to apologize. He is yet to clarify what he really meant. And for the people who are going to say, oh, he really meant like, you know, he wasn't

saying Americans. Like he meant white people. It's like, no, he said what he said. He knew exactly what the reporter was asking. He knew exactly what he said. was saying. And I don't think it's funny, but I laughed when I heard it because I thought, of course you don't see us as Americans. Everything you do, like your actions, what you're voting for, what you're voting against, show that you don't regard black people the same way you

do as Americans. And when you speak of Americans, you're only talking about a specific type of American. It's so obvious. I can't do anything but laugh because it's like how much long are you going to continue to defend people like this when they constantly are showing you who they are? I'd be curious if he's going to respond. I'd be curious to hear what he has to say. But he didn't stutter. He didn't think about it.

The man said what he said. So a lot of people might think that this is, obviously I agree. And it's something that even if Mitch McConnell doesn't outwardly think this, these are the quiet thoughts, right? Right. These are the quiet thoughts, right?

Because we know when we say, make America great again, we say, you know, for true Americans, for real Americans, even sometimes hardworking Americans. Hard working Americans is to separate

from Americans who don't work hard. And who are the Americans that don't work hard? And just want handouts from the government. Uh, uh, Bingo, um, now,

I had Donnie cut something because I want to make sure that people don't think that this is a line of thinking that just exists on one side of the political aisle. A little while ago, liberal host of Meet the Press,

Chuck Todd stepped in it with Nicole Hannah-Jones. Donnie, run that exchange. And I think is coming basically through a racial lens, but there's this, you know, parents are saying, hey, don't make my kid feel guilty. And, you know, and I know a parent of color is going, what are you talking about? You know, I've got to teach reality.

When do you do it and how do you do it? Well, I think you should just think a little bit about your framing. You said parents, and then you said parents of color. Right, white parents and parents of color. You're, you know, fair point. are not representing, as a matter of fact, white parents are representing fewer than half of all public school parents.

And yet they have an outsized voice in this debate. Okay. Now, a lot of you're going to listen to both of those things and there might be some people that say, hey, those are harmless slips to the tongue. They're not slips to the tongue. That slips out of mind. Slips out of mind.

Yes, Rach, Rach. You know, black people have never been Americans. We haven't. We've never been Americans. Sure. The fight for the fight for voting rights is the fight to be an American. It's like, if you look at American history, and I know we all want to get, we all want to get like super upset and mad about this. I'm not because I, the hardest thing to convince people of is that they're,

They don't think that you're an American. They think that they're Americans and that they're benevolent for tolerating you. Like, this is the thing. Remember how things worked in America. Black people had a function when they came here. And the function was to make America richer. It was to make America powerful. And then when black people wanted to do their own thing, white people

were like, no. And blood was shed over that. After the blood, they were like, all right, go do your thing. We don't want to hear from you. We don't want to see you. And we definitely don't want to govern for you. All right. And it's just impossible

with the way that dynamics worked. And anytime they do hear you and see you, they purposely try to kill you or take whatever you've accrued. Like, by the definition of what it should be to be American, freedom of movement, the free to elect people do process equally under the law.

All of those things that are guaranteed to Americans, has there ever been a point where black people were actually Americans? And so the fight is to establish that. And it still wages on. So yeah, I actually, I heard that and that's my thing with the Allies deal, because it's hard to be an ally with someone who it's hard to be an ally with somebody in a society where they are inherently looked at as better than you. It's like it's it's it's difficult you like it's it's it's it's difficult sometimes to me you know it's it's difficult for you to see them as an ally well what you're

saying yes it's yeah it's like it's it's almost what I hear what I hear from sisters sometimes as a regards to me being a black man because there are some things that we disagree on and then they'll say to me, well, this, you're being a poor ally. And it's sometimes difficult for me to understand and put myself in that headspace because I'm just living as a man. And you can't really poke through every single point, every single time, all the advantages and all the unfairness of that. It takes a shit ton of work. And you are going to let people down. You know what I mean? So I looked, I looked at that and I thought,

huh, that's about right. Actually, it made me feel better. To hear somebody say that. Yeah. Yeah, like knowing that they feel that way. Because it made me feel better because you can't play, you got to play dirty with guys like that. You know, you have to.

So everybody was mad about it. I wasn't mad at all. I was delighted for some reason. Why was I delighted? You know, I think, I would think that Mitch doesn't even understand what he said. like he doesn't even think that he said anything wrong. I would love for him to say something. We won't.

He won't. But I would love to hear him because I don't think he even got it. Grasped what he said, the importance of that sentence. Or how he responded to the question. Do you think that Mitch understands the importance of a Thanksgiving turkey with the way he has to gobble, gobble under his chin? And he looks like a powerful turkey. Every time I see him, I just like,

Like every time I see him, I think. A turkey? Yeah. I see it looks that looks like the skin is melting off of his face. Yeah, we're being, we're being less than progressive, body shaming him, but. You started it. I know. Is it?

You did. You went even harder than I did. No. Can you body shame the evil? I don't feel any kind of way. The man doesn't even look at us as part of the man said black people aren't Americans. I don't care. I don't care.

By the way, is possible that he just made a mistake. No. And here's the thing. No, no, no. He made a mistake because he never meant to say that out loud. But he feels that way. And again, if you question it,

look at how he has fought against anything that is progressive in the corner of black people. Like, and the reason he has done that is because he doesn't see us. the same level that he sees actual Americans. When he's fighting for Americans, he ain't talking about us. So like, no, the man meant it. With his whole neck. Have you been keeping up with the, all of the, as the world turns shit that's going on inside the Republican Party right now?

What do you mean as the world turns? Like the text messages and stuff with all Kimberly, like that kind of stuff means subpoena. Oh, my God. It's a soap opera. So check it out. I don't know if the thought words are up on this. We actually should start covering this in a recurring segment.

Like in a recurring segment called as the elephant turns. They're the elephants, right? I like it. So this is what's happening, guys. It's very juicy. Okay. So I love you guys been paying attention. But Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida wants to be the president.

This is juicy. Yes. Yes. Yes. This is super juicy. Oh, my God. Republican Jews. Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida wants to be the president.

Yes. He is a Trump acolyte. He's almost like Lil Trump. Think about, to put it in hip-hop terms for you guys, think of Trump as Birdman. And think of Ron DeSantis as Lil Wayne. That's the big homie. This is a terrible comparison. They kiss each other.

Birdman and little Wayne, very close. I know, but like just the sheer talent of Wayne and you're comparing him to like a DeSantis. I get it. He did. Baby discovered Wayne. Trump discovered DeSantis. I get it.

Go ahead. Continue. Some would say that I'm comparing Trump supporters to Trump supporters, right? So, but here's the thing. Donald Trump is flirting with almost surely. going to run for president in 2024. But there are factions inside of the Republican Party that don't want

that. As bad as Biden's presidency is right now, there are people who think the only thing that will energize voters in 2024 is the site of Donald Trump on the ticket. I tend to believe in that.

I tend to believe that don't matter how bad things are going for Biden, if you see Trump on a ticket, that's going to mobilize people to go out there and vote and make efforts to... Against Trump. Against Donald Trump, right? Because you can't really vote for Biden right now

because there's not a lot to vote for as it stands right now, but you certainly can vote against something. Trump feels dissentist and the Republican establishment is really like in shambles because they were already ready to turn the page to the decision.

Santas. DeSantis won't say that he won't run if Trump runs and Trump won't say that he will. So Trump is taking shots at Desantis. And then behind the wall, behind the turkey neck is Mitch McConnell, who is in a public tiff, a public tiff with Donald Trump. So the Republicans are being split. Dan Crenshaw has recently called out Marjorie Taylor Green. is becoming slowly what happened before. The cooks against the establishment Republicans, Donald Trump's coattails, aren't quite what they're used to be. They're still pretty, pretty devastating. You need the president, right? But you've got some Lizzie Graham's out there.

There are in the Trump's factions. You got Mitch McConnell that wants to turn the page. It's so juicy right now. It's so juicy. And you all have to understand that Donald Trump made dissenters. a star. He saw DeSantis back in the day, said, this is a young man who I feel like would support me who's a star in this party. And he's helped him get governor. And then you see DeSantis has always agreed with Trump until now. Until now. So they're both in Florida right now. They're at

odds, DeSantis is kind of taking jabs at Trump because Trump got boosted. But DeSantis won't admit whether or not he got boosted. He won't speak of it. DeSantis is in Florida making these bills with imaginary things that don't really exist but are issues in 2024 that are going to make him look like he's tough on election fraud, that he's tough on CRT. He's doing everything that he's supposed to to look right within the party. but Trump is mad because Trump feels like he should still be loyal to him.

That's the thing. So it's like a double-edged store with Trump. He'll support you, but don't you dare turn against him. Oh, of course. Don't you dare? It's so juicy. No good, no good dictator. No good dictator likes free thought.

It's all talking about free thought. It's not free thought. They like, you think the way they think. And Descendants is going hard. He's created an election police force. He's proposed an election police. for $6 million and taxpayer dollars to create 52 person special police force to department to patrol voting so we are going full on 1938 here like a voting police force yeah

to patrol voting to patrol something that doesn't exist there's no proof that there has been election fraud in the state of florida so you're using taxpayers dollars six million of them for a police force to create, to protect something, an issue that's not even there. It's wild. And DeSantis is actually, this is a presidential ramp up. These are all bills that show you how Trumpy is.

He's pushing a bill that will prohibit public schools and private businesses from making white people feel discomfort when they teach students are trained employees about discrimination. In the nation's past, received its first approval on Tuesday. Now, white people that are listening to this, I have to talk to you real quick.

Rach, I would like to know at what level do white people feel discomfort. Now, we know that some things make white people feel discomfort. We know delayed lattes. Okay. Playing music in the park. Loud music. A loud music in the park. Parking in the wrong spot.

That's definitely one of the hugest one right there. Yeah, well, you get more like, Sometimes when I get into arguments with white people over parking spots, I'm actually proud of them because I'm like, God damn, you see me and you still talking to me like this? Where is you parking in the handicap? I'm confused as to why people are upset with you parking in the wrong spot.

Let me tell you what happens. Let me tell you what happens. It's not parking in the wrong spot. What happens is I got the big body Honda Cross Store. That's what I got, Rach, I don't know what everybody else pushing. I pushed the Big Body 2010 Honda Cross Store, the Hummer, as some people call it.

When I whip into a parking spot, sometimes I leak over a little bit but you know what I'm saying? I got a big body. My shit is, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to fit. People look at me crazy

or women look at me crazy like white ladies look at me crazy. I'm like, yo man, I'm not going to bullshit you. You got your own country. I'm going to have both of these parking spots. I'm not even tripping.

Sometimes I'll be in the wrong. You are in the wrong if you're outside the lines. You are. I'm definitely in the wrong. I'm definitely in the wrong. But the reality of the whole situation is they still get highly mad.

Black people look at me, they just shake their head. Look at this trifling ass, nigga. And they move on. But white people want you to know that you're wrong, that there's a right way to do things and you're doing it the wrong thing, the wrong way. So I guess I ask all of these questions. I put all of these things, you know, out there

because I want to know, at what point are they going to feel uncomfortable about being taught the actual history of America? like what's too far? Well, just merely talking about it at this point because it's not even being taught in the school system. So just talking about it is too far for them. It's all right, the threat of it. And it's not a threat.

Just the idea, the possibility that it could happen is making them feel uncomfortable to where they're creating these bills to prohibit something that doesn't even exist. I'm really interested in this. Like, so let's say I say that, So let's say that I say slavery existed. Okay.

Rachel, Donnie, come on. Donnie, you pop on real quick. Donnie, I want you to be white. You got it.

I want you to tell me. I want you to tell me. Donnie wanted to be white. No, no, that was my white voice. That was my. Okay,

give us white voice again. You got it. Anytime, buddy. Gotcha. Okay. So, Donnie, what I'm going to do is I'm going to throw out things. I want you to tell me when I've gone too far. Okay.

I want you to tell me when you're starting to feel uncomfortable, all right? Rach, pepper. We're going to pepper Donnie with some factoids about slavery. And there's some factoids about the history of the United States. Donnie, you tell me. Already uncomfortable. See what I'm saying? But how can you already be uncomfortable with?

You said slavery. That is the point. That is the point. That's exactly. Thank you, Dottie. for illustrating what is happening in the country. That's it. That's what's happening, you guys.

That's it. Perfectly executed. Thank you, Tony. That's it. That's what's happening. Literally what's happening. Literally. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Rachel, what are we going to do? They're like, what are we going to do? We got a whole building. Like, literally white people, shoot back people in the street. And when we get mad, they say, get over it. Like, why do you? Like, I'm serious. Shoot black people in this street.

When they say, when we get mad, they say you're making too much of a big deal about it. It happens. They're dead people. They say it happens. Like, like, all the slavery shit, all this stuff. Hey, get over and get past it. We just got a law put on the books or proposed so that they don't feel sad. You're talking about the difference between Americans.

Jesus fucking Christ. But like, how do we feel? How do we feel? Like, that's the whole thing with this. You are trying to preserve your feelings. But what about everybody else? What about our feelings? The people who actually our ancestors

we still experience this with systemic racism that is evident in every single asset of this country. But you want to create bills just because you feel like, which let's just be honest. That's not even what CRT is, It's not about making you feel bad. That's not even what it is about. It's just explaining how things came to be, why things exist the way they do.

It is not about making you feel bad. If you feel bad, that's on you. You should, but that's not what the teaching of it is. And it's not even being taught. I'm explaining something that's not even being taught. I just, what about us? What about how we feel? What about our feelings?

What about you? What about me? What about us? That should be the black. That should be the black American theme song. What about us? That's what I'm when I run. Shout out to West Bill and me in our black party.

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He was 73. I would not have known who Audrey Leone Talley was without Calica. I'm telling you, she's enriched my life in very many ways. But in one way is like knowing about the fashion world and stuff like that. So let me not say this. Let me say let me not say I wouldn't have known who he was. Let me say that she introduced me to who he was. Sure.

And so he was an incredible force. And a trailblazer in like in many ways. Great big guy. Like it was like six foot seven. Yeah. But was one of the most fashionable guys always had impeccable taste. So I want to make sure that we take one minute to to acknowledge the life of such a creative genius. Absolutely.

And you might have seen him. And if you saw him, whether it was maybe you didn't see him in the 80s and 90s, but you saw him on America's next top model. You saw him on the Sex and the City movie. And you were like, who is this man who commands the room wherever he is and just has this larger than life personality? But then when you do a deep dive into who he is and how he is, and how he got to be who he was with Vogue and other publications even prior to that,

this is a man who often sat alone at the table, only the only black person representing black voices. And he fought for them. He fought for black models to be on the runway. He fought for them to be included in these esteemed magazines that only had models that looked a certain way. He was the voice to get these people recognized, these supermodels, black supermodels that you see,

a lot of them became who they were because an Andre Leon Talley was fighting for them to have their place in this industry. So, you know, he's definitely going to be missed. He has a book out called Chafin Trenches that really talks about some of the struggles that he went through. I have not read it, but talks about some of the struggles that he went through in this industry, being who he is, being alone, having to be that soul voice. so I'm glad that we're just taking a minute to honor him who he is. This alone doesn't even begin to scratch the surface on what he's done

but he will definitely be missed. Yeah, yeah, very, very sad, very sad. Now, we're going to move on real quick to the Fresh and Fit podcast, guys. Rachel's favorite topic. Yeah, Rachel's favorite topic, Frank Fish. Frisch Fisner. Brittany Renner, another favorite topic of Rachel,

went viral today because of the fact that she confronted Fresh and Fit on off the record, DJ Academics's podcast. I would like to give a shout out to academics and the disruption that he is causing in the podcasting game. Academics comes out with the podcast. The podcast goes crazy with 6-9 and Wack 100 on there. Then it takes him a little while to find his footing

in terms of what his podcast is going to be. People ask some questions. Is academic going to? to be a good podcast. Currently has the number one music podcast on Spotify. So I would just like to say shout out to my homie. He is doing his thing. And as much as people try to talk their shit about,

he is not going anywhere. All right? Not a perfect guy, but he is here to play his media game. He's polarizing. People want to hear his opinion on certain things or hear who he's going to bring together to voice their opinions like a Stephen A in sports.

So people love to hate watching. They love to hate, listen to him. So, you know, definitely good. I'm fucking with him. That's my man. So look, fresh and fit were there. They came down, they sat down in front of Britney Renner. And this is what happened when they did.

That you warned guys about girls like me. So tell me about girls like me. Just women in general. Like, I mean, no, no, don't woman in general, because you literally specifically said before we got on here. That's all of cable conversation. Yeah, you did say that you warn guys about girls like me. So now that we're face to face, what kind of girl am I? You're not special.

You're like other girls. I'm not special. So what makes you special then? I never said I was. What do you gain from telling girls that they're not special? How does it make you feel? I mean, I know everything is a joke, but I'm asking you a real question. So how does it make you feel?

Because if I say you're a bitch-ass nigger, that does something for me, right? If I insult you or if I tell you're not special, you're forgettable, what does that do for me? me. No, but that doesn't, but that's what I'm saying? No, but I'm saying what if I call you, if I just say that again, you're forgettable. That's why I didn't want to do you guys as a podcast. Forgettable. Hate the setup. The name is underwhelming. I didn't really see the value in it. Right. That's what I feel. Right. They're so stupid. They gave them the business. Has this changed your opinion of Brittany Renner at all? It has nothing to do with the whole conversation. Like I, I don't have these, these huge opinions, these grand opinions.

about Brittany. I loved that she confronted them. I think that that's great. I think for them, this is the biggest stage for them to be on academics podcast and to go head to head with a Britney Rinner who's wildly popular. I mean, like for them, whether they sat there and said nothing the entire time, this is huge for them. I'm glad she confronted them. I'm glad she had the opportunity to say some things that a lot of women want to be able to say to them. But at the end of the day, though, it's also not hard to make them look stupid. They're blithering idiots. They have, they just literally talk out the side of their neck and say things, whether it's for shock, value, or they really actually mean it. But they have no basis, no rhyme or reason behind the

crazy statements that they say. So it's not really hard to challenge them because they really truly have absolutely nothing to say. They were quiet. They were completely quiet the entire time. But, but, but, okay, so you know what the funny thing is? What? I actually disagree with you. Okay. Let's go. They, so number one, that's a clip from that interview. If you listen to the entire interview, it is a very reasonable, respectful back and forth conversation. Now, they couldn't match the energy of black women because that energy is unfamiliar to them because they're not around a lot of black women. So when you get in front of the energy of a woman that's going,

that actually is going to hold you accountable with what it is, what you say, what you do, in a way that is going to match you because really the energy that you get from black women that's like that is because they are your match they are what you're supposed to have that and when it's when it's missing you haven't had it in a while like and it comes to you

you don't know what to do but they did say what did they do that made you feel like that they were really because that that clip and academics know exactly what he's doing it makes them look so stupid it draws everybody I hit act this morning I'm like

Because those are acts friends, right? Oh, he made them look so stupid. So I hit act this morning, literally, first thing in the morning after I saw that clip. I'm like, there's no way they could be your boys. I was like, I was like, there's no way those guys can be your friends. If I'm fresh and fit, I'm so fucking pissed off at academics because he then said, man, you have to go listen to the entire conversation. And the entire conversation is a lot more measured than that.

And I'm like, all, cool. But that's even more reason to where if, you because right then that is the worst kind of clip that could come out for them. That's them sitting in front of a black woman. The very thing, the very person, should I say, the very person that they, the very group of people, shall I say that they disrespected and being sunned. So it makes them look fucking 50 times weaker than anything that you could put out of, out about them, right?

And for people like me who did not listen to the entire thing. So that's all I know. Right. So this is my thing with Fresh and Fit. I don't think that they're idiots. I think that they're just wrong. They have explanations for everything that they say. It's not like they're just coming off the top of the dome.

They have explanations for everything that they say. Like there's a reason for everything that they say. That's why I said it was very telling that the one thing that they didn't want to go into depth explaining was their comments about black women. And that's the only thing that they did. didn't want to go in depth to explain to death everything else. Yes, which is telling. So I don't think that they're idiots. I think two things.

Number one, I think that they are a product of the same intellectual engineering that a lot of young brothers fall victim to when they don't have the proper people in their ear, like pulling them out of it. It's happened to other people that I've known. And number one, they're in a phase. Like there's a phase. I'll tell you what the phase is. So this is the phase and this is kind of the whole thing.

So there is a part in your life, a point in your life where as a man, even in the player proof crew, I don't know if you guys know, but the player proof crew revolved around getting girls. That's why we were the player proof crew. We got that. But in our relationship, I'll tell you. what happened with the playerproof crew and this is for anybody that's listening what happened with the player proof crew was we were out here player proof motherfuckers my dolls for show whoo I'm gonna hit that hole that's what you that's what you used to say in the club that's what used to say and what happened was this group of good looking smart um like playboy type guys

Everything that they thought about women and dating, they got confronted with when they met the right person. So when Gino met Shayla, when Ryan met LaSanta, when Ian met Katrina, when Brian met Katrina, when Brian met all five of his baby mamas, when, when, you know what me. So like when Tray met his wife, like it is is is so what happens is and this is something that is up to the OGs, which I'm kind of getting into that mode to change because until you learn what it really takes to build a relationship and what it really takes to understand and like appreciate somebody in a relationship, you do damage. You do the same damage that you've learned from your homies, right? Right. Your mom tells you what to think about the world. She shows you how to love. She shows you compassion. She shows you all of these things. Then you get out into the street and the women who are going to be mothers to other people's sons and daughters. Your big homies and I got to give them his credit for this. Dad and your uncles, they tell you that you're supposed to have sex with them. Your body's telling you you're supposed to have sex with them. And then women get not objectified. Because if you want to ask me, I think saying what men do, to women as objectification, I think that's actually underselling it because a lot of guys

take better care of their sneakers than they do their women. A lot of guys take better care of their cars and their video games and they're doing their women. So they're not even objectified. They're thingified. They're just a thing. Two breasts, a butt, and a vagina. Maybe a smile if you get lucky, right?

Just a thing to validate and make you feel better, right? Sure. And you do all of this damage. You do all of this damage. You do all this damage to you meet a thing. that you want to hear talk back, that you want to just watch a movie with, that you just want to hang out with.

And then it makes you look at everything differently, but that sounds like a beautiful story, except in all of that time that you are dingifying human beings, you're creating damage. You're starving people. Yeah. You're hurting people. Yes.

So the reason why I initially wanted to go on Fresh and Fits podcast was to let them know that, and it happened to fit, It happened to fresh already. Because I wanted to let them know that all of this stuff right here, this is just not how people are. It's just not how people are. People aren't like, like, it's, they were talking about the fact that these are

the type of women that they like to date. Then there was this whole thing on the podcast where one of the guys met a girl and they uncovered her whole past. And she had been on the seeking arrangement site. And she had been with this guy. She had been with that guy. He was like, whatever, I know her true heart. because I know her.

And my, that was very funny when that happened. It's because I'm looking at that. I'm like, yeah, the only thing that matters about whether or not you want to be with her is how she makes you feel and how you make her feel. And being a man is saying, yo, I met a girl. This is what she's into. This is what she does. But the reality is I like her. I don't care what y'all say.

Boom. That's when you're honoring yourself and you're honoring your feelings. All of this other shit that we're talking about, this. men, women, dating, you're supposed to do this, you're supposed to do that. There are some of those guidelines that work, but there are some of those guidelines that are just there to make people feel better about themselves. Sure. And make them feel like they're the man.

And what you really have is too funny-looking niggas, if we keep in a gangster, who, who, who come from a situation, who came from a spot where they were one way, and now they're viewed as another way, and they feel like this is partly revenge and doctrine on how they are going to live the rest of their lives and giving a blueprint to other guys. They want you to believe that you have to be a certain way because this is what they've made themselves to overcome the insecurities that they have.

I know those guys because I've been there and it's a waste of time. And so to me personally, I think when I talk to young men, I'm not going to tell them that I'm not going to be able to tell a 17 to 16 year old, 18, year old kid that like to listen to more than your dick i'm not going to be able to do that because i've been there and i know what they're going to do but i would like to tell them that like

please remember that the thing on the other side of you is not a thing it's like a person like like a whole it's like a whole person and i'm still learning that too yeah i am actually still learning that still learning about what my actions as a man, what my actions as a son, what my actions as a brother, the harm that I can inflict and trying to like roll that back. But the reality is like you can't pretend like it doesn't exist

or else you'll just go out there and hurt as many people as you can until you die. Wow. What you said right now was real. And that was really deep. But let me tell you something. That ain't these two, niggas. Way too much credit.

Way too much. Like, I just went on your whole spiritual journey with you and what you have learned about life and women and you're like maybe what used to be a struggle or maybe some things you still struggle with now and what you've been able to recognize and what you're now aware of. That's you.

And maybe I need to listen to some more podcasts, but I think that is giving them way more friendly. I'm not saying as them. I'm saying that I would try to convince them. It would be about convincing them that what they're going through is actually

a phase. Because I actually think that a lot of what they do is for shock value because they're getting more attention than they've ever gotten before. And so now that they have to continue to wear these hats and play these roles, I think they are somewhat aware of what they're doing, whether they wholeheartedly believe it or not.

But I loved everything you had to say. And I'm glad that that conversation was able to bring that out because somebody needed to hear what you just had to say. Definitely. The player proof, the player proof as we got older and started the player proof, we've had this conversation with each other. Because these same guys, these same dudes who was, oh, man, we all, we're doing the, these guys have cried over these women. These guys have, these guys have traveled cross country in rental cars to see these women. These guys have changed their whole lives. Some of these guys have stopped smoking

weed in the house for these women. God damn. There's always one. Listen, us women, we talk about this. We're always like, man, if dudes knew how their homies acted when they weren't around them, like how they act with us, like it would be eye-opening. I call it out.

I call it out. You would all everything. No, no, I don't. But when I'm over there and I see I see one of them being, I'm like, oh, it's like, I don't remember you said you'd never do that. I don't remember that. Remember, you said you'd never, that no one would ever make you do that.

But you're doing it now because things change. All right. Aquafina got nominated for NAACP Award. Your thoughts? Here's my question. I know people are very upset about it. And I don't know if they're upset that it's her. And it's the N-A-A-A-C-P awards.

Not AA-A-A-A-C-P awards. Is it, people have. have an issue with her because of the history of her using black scent or are they just mad that a non-black person is nominated because correct me if I'm wrong aren't non-black people nominated for NAACP awards all the time? Yes. I think that I think it's the black said situation. Yeah. I mean, okay, so here's another question I have. Has she come out and spoken about the use of Blackcent. Her history. You don't remember this? They asked her and she said, and she kind of dodged the question.

Do we have? Right. I'm asking how she specifically addressed it. You know, I, I, I'm open to the conversation. I think it, you know, it's, it really is something that I think is a little bit multifaceted and layered. And so, yeah. Wait, what? That was her question. What's multi-faceted? What's layered?

Answer. The question was, you know, what do you say to people that have a problem with the way that you talk Black City-wise? Black-City-wise, yeah. That was the question. That was answering. All right. Okay.

That alone makes me, this is my opinion. NAACP has got to be way more aware of who they're dishing awards out to, especially because of the history of the NAACP, what it stands for, what it represents. You should know if somebody has a history of doing something that's problematic in the black community. I'm sure there were a number of other people who could have been nominated for this award, and she didn't need to be one of them, especially if she has yet to explain her use, not once, but constant use of BlackCent. She did it a lot. That's how she became known. So that is something that I don't understand. I mean, I also don't understand why we weren't nominated.

If you're going to take the time nominated an Aquafina, you could have nominated us. Not in that category, but another one. You know what? They forgot to nominate. They forgot to put us up. No, not they forgot to put us up. They have a nominating committee. Two Distringers wasn't nominated.

You see what I'm saying? like I got a huge issue right now. But look, but look, but here's the thing, though. It's what I'll say about this. Yeah, we don't. First of all, we would have loved to have God. Of course you would have. We got an AFCA war.

Yeah, we got an AFCA war. So we're good. But I will say this. I really have a problem with Aquafina. Aquafina has been who Aquafina was for a long time. I know a lot of people who know Aquafina. Aquafina a lovely person. I have no problem with Aquafina, right?

I don't. What I have a problem with is. is the NAACP in this situation because they hung her out to dry. Like they are, no, no, no, listen to what I'm saying. I'm not mad that they hung her out to dry like I'm sticking up for her, right? Because she should answer the questions. The questions are, even if we have a deeper conversation about where I'm from and what you owe people or whatever, because if this was on the other foot,

if I came out here and I had a stereotypically Asian voice everywhere I taught people would ask why and I have better damn well have a good answer for it. Sure. But this is what I'm saying. Something like this shows me how out of touch the NAACP is because someone would make that nomination, put that out there and not think that we were going to have questions about it. Either that or they did it purposely because she's nominated for voice. That's right.

She's nominated for voice. or else they did it on purpose to make people care about the NAACP Awards that are coming out. Okay. I just got a text message. I have to read it, okay? No, no.

It's a text message right here. It's a, it's a DM. Says, hey, guys, I'm the secretary for the young Democratic Socialists of America chapter here at Ohio State University. In collaboration with students for Democratic Society, Ohio State, we are having a protest tomorrow at 3.30 at the U.S. Union. Our demand consists of a 15-hour minimum wage, better working conditions, and more benefits for student workers, etc.

We also have a petition going. The petition is at change.org backslash Ohio State Board of Trustees support the demands of Ohio State student workers. So please sign if you'd like. We really need a big protest for, we need to need a big turnout for this protest and the petition to have a chance of getting this implemented. by the university. Please share within your circles, friends, families, communities, clubs, professionals, and other students. This is coming from, I'm not going to say her name because I don't know if she wants me to say her name.

But the reality is we support anytime anybody's fighting for any raise wage increases. Absolutely. Or fair worker stuff. I'm not a particular fan of Ohio State. their fan base college football is mean. You're worried about the wrong thing right now.

You're worried about to stick to the subject. Since you in your DMs while we're podcasting, go ahead and stick to the subject. No, the DM popped up before. The DM popped up before. And I wanted to make sure I got back to it. So if you're in the area, I think it's Columbus, Ohio is where this is at, is where Ohio state is.

Beautiful city. Columbus is? I was shocked when I went there. It was, it was beautiful. It was like fall, the leaves were changing colors. It's just a very quaint,

like, I don't know, it's just a pretty town. Columbus, Ohio. I got to go out there. I want to go to the, I want to go to Ohio State

and watch a football game. Same. It's like on my bucket list to go to big universities and, and see like their traditions tailgate with them, go to the game.

Yeah. Got to come on down to LSU. I've been there. I've been to the swamp. Remember, I dated a guy from Zachary The swamp is in Florida No, Death Valley, that's right, that's right But I've been to the swamp too

And I've been to Death Valley Because that's where Brian's from Right So I've been to Florida But I have been to Death Valley Because remember I told you I dated the guy from Zachary And then there are two Death Valley Really is only one Death Valley

Where's the other one? Mississippi Clemson. No, Clemson, yes. Clemson calls their shit to Death Valley I haven't been there. I haven't been there. in there either. I don't want to go. Yeah. But I don't know if you've been paying attention,

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What is it? The Wharton School? the warden school you care about that no no no we don't talk about yeah yeah they're rich they don't know how much people make they're out of touch they're in their own bubble typical we wouldn't expect anything they're already uncomfortable like donnie don't he said slavery

you said slavery I'm already uncomfortable oh oh oh do you want to the the the political ad coming from candidate Gary Chambers Gary Chambers if you're listening this is an open invitation for you to come on higher learning we haven't had Gary on yet have we had Gary on no we have not but we've talked about him multiple times.

Multiple times. Yeah, we love to have Gary on. He's gone viral. Gary was on CNN. Gary. Did he keep the blunt in his hand? Or did he put it? I don't think he brought the blunt to CNN.

Now, it's going to take a lot for Gary to win that Senate seat down there in Louisiana. But that does not mean that it's impossible. It is just not impossible for him to be able to pull this off. It just doesn't mean that. But what I love so. much as he's he's making people uncomfortable. He's pushing the limits. He's staying true to who he is. And like we talk all the time about not trusting politicians, about people changing. But Gary just

seems to come across the person like, this is who I am. This is what you see is what you get. Like, and this is what I'm fighting for. And he brought attention, my attention, things to my attention that I was not aware of at all when it comes to taxpayers' dollars and marijuana. So I just, I'm just fascinated by the man. fascinated. And obviously I don't have a vote when it comes to Louisiana, but still, like, come on the podcast, whatever we can do to spread awareness and to introduce people to who you are. Please, come on. Love to talk to them. Absolutely. Absolutely. One of the best political ads I've ever seen. Okay, Donnie, let's do the mailback. Mailback time. Time to read your letters and then we'll reply to them. Oh, it's mailback time. Write us with you. your queries and we'll chime in. All right. Von Cannon underscore asks if you could time travel to go help any one hit

wonder become a goat. Who would it be and why? Oh my gosh. Time travel for a one hit wonder? I'm going to tell you. I'll tell you who it is. And it's not even so much that this guy hasn't had a great career. But it's just that his one song is.

so iconic. His one song is so iconic. I would want to help him have like at least two or three more of him. That's Montel Jordan. Okay. He's not a one hit wonder. That doesn't count. He is.

Montel Jordan is on one hit wonder. No, just because he had one extremely popular song. He was in movies. Like he was around. He had a, um, what was the song? Let's ride tonight. All die. Don't doubt it

Your love is body, body And I want to die All right, let's see See a soldier's doing Wow I can make you smile Make you not go Wow

I think I'm making up the words Camouflage on these sheets Make that head board squeak Let's ride Montel Jordan Let's see where it peaked at Let's see if it was in fact It was a hit Let's see where it was

Let's see The lead single of Montel Jordan's third album Master Pius Silta Shaka on it Ooh Hey He is not a one hit wonder I tell you

Let's ride was a fucking huge hit If I can remember the words I loved I loved it Let's ride was a huge hit I love the song But I didn't realize

Let's ride went to number two On the Billboard Hot 100 Yes I I have to apologize right now to Montel Jordan. And you should. Because having another song go to number two. And it was number one on the hot hip-hop R&B singles tracks,

becoming his most successful one. It was certified platinum. Since the radio stations, okay, let's ride. I was in the 12th grade when let's ride. I can't even believe it, which means I was way too young. How in the world was Rachel Lindsay listening to a song like that? that means that was like eight eight when it came out

okay if that's the case I don't really I don't really have a good answer to it what about um and maybe you're gonna be the one that saves me are you talking about fucking Oasis are they a one hit wonder are you out of your mind

calling Oasis or what hit one okay don't do me wait wait a second hold on for a second that's the only song I'm sorry what they sing it's the only song No, they have Champaign Supernova. They have and they have songbird. Oasis is one of the greatest bands.

Are those popular? There's no way. You, you, don't you ever. If I type in Oasis, one hit wonder pops up after their name. If I put in Oasis in Google, literally, top of it, one hit wonder, Oasis. First of all, they at least had two hits because they had Champagne Supernova too. But the Oasis is far from a one hit wonder. Far.

far from a one-hit wonder. Not even, like, we don't know one-hit wonders. We sure don't. We don't know what- That's the whole point because they only have a song. We don't know what hit wonders.

Maybe, maybe Eddie Murphy's song. Maybe we could have put some energy behind him. He only had one hit. I can't believe you just, Oasis is literally one of my top favorite. Oasis has sold, as 2009, Rachel, Oasis has sold over 70 million albums worldwide.

I can't believe you just hated an oasis like that. That is nuts. Okay. But Montel Jordan had a platinum album and three goals. So stop. Three goals. And maybe I'm wrong. Hey.

Hey. That's okay. Our vote is Eddie Murphy. What was his song? What was his one song? Party all the time. Party all the time. That's it.

Plus five bonus. If you know who wrote that song. He was in the video. Uh, yeah. Rick James. Rick James. Rick James and it sounds like a Rick James song when you hear

100%. That's our vote. That's our vote. That's our vote right there. Okay, next question. That one question might have been all of mailback, but next question.

All right. Sticking with the music theme, C.P. Viz asked, what's your favorite Paramore song? They say, come on, I know y'all listen. Oh, wait. Don't they have, wait me up in life? There's a song.

Have wake me up inside? Wake me up inside. No, that's not them. Who is that? Ain't it fun. I love ain't it fun. Wait a minute. Wake me up is not.

Haley Williams has such a fantastic voice. Definitely, ain't it fun. Well, that song that you just named, say it again, wake me up. That is not them. That's not them. That's not them. That's not. Who is that?

Evanescence. Evanescence. If it ain't hip hop and R-B. No, no, no. I know a lot about music. Clearly not. I know a lot about music. I know a lot about music.

Ain't it fun by Paramore is. Because Paramore, she covered, she's got like the red kind of like colorful hair. She got the red kind of hair. She covered, uh, she covered an umbrella that one time. Yeah. Her voice is fantastic. Oh. Okay.

Um, next question. In essence. Yo underscore suave 245 asks What's a classic black movie slash show You think everybody needs to watch I really want to say let's do it again I'm just going to say it Who cares?

Who cares? Yeah, uptown Saturday night And let's do it again Yes, Bill Cosby is in both movies Sidney Portier is in both movies But they are just like To me, black cultural like pieces of

eternal art those movies they're so fun they're so fun and I used to watch them with my family and we would have a lot of fun watching them so I would say uptown Saturday night let's do it again like they are sequels to one of them I'm having such a hard time with this but like my go-to

what originally came to mine was the whiz that's like the first thing that popped in my mind just to see of course it's got Michael Jackson Diana Ross, the music, just to watch the original and then just to see what we do with it

and our take on it. I don't know. I just love it. We watched it over and over again as kids. It was very magical to me to watch and just like to see

black excellence in such a beautiful way, especially when they go to Oz. But what did they call it? What did they call it? They didn't call it Oz. I can't remember. Nigerville.

No, they did. But when they sing about the colors, when they sing about the colors and they change green, red. Blue. A TV show? Niggas.

TV show? I don't know. This is, I'm trying to think of what was influential to me. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, the Jeffersons. Jefferson's is good. The Jefferson's, yeah. You know what you wanted to say. What was I going to, the Cosby show?

The Cosby show, gosh. It meant so much to be growing up. Evil bastard. So much to me. All of our fucking childhoods, son of a bitch. One more. All right. Gina Colombo has,

has Van read Rachel's book? Nope. Not yet. What is Rachel most excited? What is Rachel most excited about for it? I haven't read it yet, but I'm winning on my copy right now. Rachel, what are you most excited?

Yeah, no, he definitely is a copy coming. I'm most excited for people to see. I feel like people are used to sing me one way unless you listen to this podcast, then you get to see other sides to me. But if you only knew me as the Bachelorette, you're like, man, I was billed as an angry black woman. It always seems like I have an opinion about something or I'm

complaining or I'm saying that there needs to be changed. But there's so much more to me than that. I'm a lot more fun than that persona. So I'm just excited for people to see all sides of me and miss me with that. I push myself and asking certain, like challenging certain things when it comes to like religion and sex and talking about mental health and talking about one of my favorite chapters is a nation of double standards, which of course is talking about the nation we live in, but also talking about a bachelor nation. So each essay stands alone and I'm like, I'm proud of that. And I really, I'm glad the book came out when it did. People wanted me to write a book right when I came off the show. But I'm glad because so much has happened in the almost five years since I first, well, it's more than five

years since I first started the show as a contest on the bachelor, but almost five years since the Bachelorette. So there's so much more into it. It's not just all about spilling tea. It's getting to know me, how I grew up. Well, it was a struggle for me. Some things we've talked. talked about on this podcast when we had our family meeting. I talk a lot about not being accepted in one community and then feeling like I had to conform to be accepted in another community. And I talk about the struggle with that. I'm not biracial, but I was treated like that. So that's like really interesting. And then I talk about when I first saw an experienced black excellence going to an HBCU and that and like how that changed my entire mindset on things.

It's actually amazing. I didn't end up going to Spelman after that. But anyways, there's just so much more to it than just The Bachelorette. So, you know, the title was almost more than a bachelorette. But I went with Miss Me with that because there's a lot of things I'm asking you to miss me with in this book. So I hope you enjoy it. It's amazing. By the way, that's by the way, that's still Drake's hardest bar. Like, I used to get teased for being black, but now I'm not black enough because I'm not acting tough and making stories up by where I'm actually from.

See, every once in a while that nigga, you'd be like, God damn. You know what I mean? It's hard. You know, it's hard. You're in the gifted programs and everyone's teasing you because you being black and then you like some Nirvana and you come home and you play it. And your home boys are like, nigga, you worship the devil. It's so true.

It's so. It's just hard. So true. Man, though, speaking about bars and songs that go hard, that easy, it's like old Kanye. It's like old Kanye again. I'm trying to get game to come on the podcast to kick it with us. Come on. It's like this.

It's a hard record. All right. That is enough. No unexpected ally of the week. I got one. This week. Oh, excuse me. I don't have one, but Rachel does.

What you got? Real quick. Unexpected ally of the week. Nick Saban. One of the people who signed. Oh, great one. Yes. Nick Sabin.

Fuck is life. Jerry West have come out among others. I think there's like five other people who have signed a letter pushing West Virginia. Senator Joe Manchin to support the Senate's voting rights bill. They endorsed Senator Joe Manchin in 2018 for his re-election bid. And now they are urging him to be on the right side of history, which we know he didn't do. But they have stood out and I wasn't expecting that from a Nick Saban. People who have connections to West Virginia are stepping out and saying, hey, we need you to vote for what's right.

He didn't follow. But it was nice to see people like Nick Saban who are highly influential and Jerry West step up and do the right thing. Um, fuck Nick Saban from the bottom of his feet to the top of his head, but still, that is an amazing. And that's why he's unexpected. An amazing, an amazing thing for Coach Saban to do. Shout out to Coach Saban for that. You might be wondering why we did not talk about the fact that John Lewis Voting Rights Act failed this week. We are going to discuss that, but we're going to do a deeper dive on that with a political guest.

That's going to come on the very next show. Until then, take the thing caps off and do not stop learning. I am Van Lathen Jr. I'm Rachel and Lindsay. Bye. Bye, Rachel. Bye, Rachel. Bye, guys.