Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay - President Trump vs. the USPS, Kim K. on the Case, and a New Black President in Washington

Episode Date: August 18, 2020

Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay discuss the Trump administration’s recent efforts to defund the USPS and hurt mail-in voting (6:10); Kim Kardashian West helping free C-Murder from jail (25:56); the Washington Football Team hiring Jason Wright, the first black NFL team president (48:00); and the Kentucky attorney general’s recent meeting with Breonna Taylor’s family (1:02:32). Lastly, they end the show with a new segment, Is This Dumb? (1:21:18) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? Higher learning is here. It is Van Lathen. And Rachel Lindsay. Rachel, how was your weekend? Weekend was good. Every time you asked me that, I swear I can never remember what I did.

Oh, I'm packing. What am I saying? Like, I've been packing up stuff because I'm trying to get ready for a move. I got a lot going on in two weeks. And a cross-country move is no joke. So it's like I got a mover. coming this week. For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters.

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Bonus is non-withdrawable and expires seven days after receipt. Trading derivatives involve significant risk and may not be suitable for all investments. Manage your activity with our consumer protection tool. Restrictions apply. See terms at vanduil.com slash predict slash bonus dash offer dash herms. Yeah, you got the movers coming up and they like the movers. So how do you move? So I am to the point I just moved.

I hear here now from downtown to mid city. When you move, do you, do they just come in? Are you like the fancy mover person to where you just go to a hotel and have everybody pack up all your stuff? Or are you like kind of like? like I am where like we were like you move half the stuff yourself, but then the movers come get the big stuff. Which one do you think I am?

I think that you are, we're going to the Billetmore, the Millennium Builtmore Hotel. Okay. And we're going to have a bunch of people come in, all right, and they're going to pack everything up. I want the kitchen stuff to go right into the kitchen. Okay. I have a decor.

I have a plan. All right. And then the bedroom stuff, put it together, cobble it together, put it in. Why are you talking like that? Why are you talking about? Don't break any of my expensive paintings. I have the Jackson Pollock. Okay?

Don't break it. It's right here in this room. I'm going to cut you off right there. Now, when I was in Dallas, I knew a woman who had like a full service. So yes, she would pack up everything and unpack it. I don't have those luxuries anymore. So, and I mean, we're still, I'm going to be back and forth between. Miami and LA. So I only had to pack up my clothes, the Peloton, and a file cabinet.

That was it, the clothes, the Peloton, and the file cabinet. And then you're moved. Yeah, but packing up my clothes took forever. I'm not even finished. I long did it take. How much, by the way, are you, when you move, do you realize how much stuff that you don't need? Because that was a big deal for me. I realized how much stuff that I didn't need. I still had like t-shirts and stuff like that from high school. And I was holding on to him. I am a person, I don't want to call myself a hoarder, but I have a hard time letting go of stuff because I'm like, no, like I have

church from high school because I'm just like, no, it's a memory. Oh, I can hold on to that. So I keep a lot of stuff. But I definitely donate a lot. Like I have a significant pile to donate as well as I'm going through my closet. But I have a lot of junk. I'm not even going to lie. Like I have a hard time letting go of stuff.

People I can let go of. My things. Rachel. Not so much. T-shirts, tough. Human beings, you out of here. Out of here. But you know what else?

This weekend? And I bet you've done this because you're, you know, you're on a health journey all the time. I started intermittent fasting. Oh, I tried it. How long have you done it? I did it. It didn't work for me. Really?

Yeah, no. I mean, first of all, I basically do it every day because I don't have my friends. first meal until noon. Okay. So I don't have my first meal till noon, never. I don't, I skip breakfast every morning. It's just a part of life for me. So I skip breakfast every morning.

But as far as I tried to do it from 12 to 6 one time, 12 to 6. I thought it was an eight hour block. Six hours. I tried to go six. I tried to go six hours. Okay. Six hours. And it just was a disaster.

It did not work for me. Maybe you should try eight. Eight hours. Okay. So I've been trying it. So I've been a little cranky. I just started that this weekend as well as moving. Brian does it all the time.

So I said, you know what? Our anniversary is coming up next week, one year. We're going to go somewhere. Congratulations. And so I'm like, thank you. So I'm trying to do it right now. That's why I got the water here. Time is right after this is done.

I'm eating and I'm done. So then he does the intermittent fasting. Is that what accounts for like that? And keto. He does it. intermittent fasting and keto. Yeah. Like, what's the deal with this guy, man?

Like, what's up with you do? Like, who's like, you don't do the intermittent fasting? Like, you don't do the intermittent fasting and the keto. Like, what's going on with this guy, man? Is this? He's very into, like, health and fitness. That's why he's so ripped. Right.

Yeah, that's why he's got the abs. You know, and I told everybody earlier that I was going to get the abs like Brian and I want them. I want abs, but I don't know if I have what it takes. If you're making that kind of sacrifice. Because, man, you know, once I get, once I feel good and I can perform athletically, that extra step for the abs at 40, that's saying no to a lot of pieces of fried chicken, man. That's a lot of chicken that you're not eating for them abs.

I don't know if it's worth it. For what? For who? For what? For him, it's a part of his brand. He's 42. So, 40 as well, 40 as well, I should say. Oh, he's 42.

Oh, I'm about to say. I thought, okay, so he's 40 as well. Okay, well, not if we were the same age, I got a, I'm going to have a shirtless contest with him. I thought he was a little younger. So y'all got basketball. We got basketball. Challenging this man. Challenging this man.

Let's go. Not the only one out here getting on the uncomfortable conversations with white people show. Now, all right. Now, you are moving cross-country. Yes. All right. You are transporting yourself from one place to another place. There is an entity in America going way back to the beginnings of our country that is normally responsible for transporting things from one side of our country to the other side of our country.

That entity is the United States Postal Service. And when I was growing up and I was a kid, the United States Postal Service, the United States Postal Service, service was seen as one of the cornerstone institutions of Americana. You know, it was talked about how your postman was a hero. They delivered rain sleet or snow. Your postman, your postwoman was going to go out there and do their job and make sure that America's ideas, sentiments, thoughts, feelings were circulating because that's how important the postal service was.

Where I'm from, I am the grandson. when I'm from being a post office worker is a great, great career. One of my cousins after the military went to the postal service. I am the grandson of a 35 plus year postal office worker. Wow. My grandfather worked for the post office. By the way, my grandfather, all right. Quentin Ellis down there in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, retired a millionaire.

He retired a millionaire after. working 35 plus years with the post office. A great American success story, my grandfather. Now though it's... Black wealth. Black wealth. Now though, it seems as if the post office is under fire. The Trump administration is, you know, under a great deal of national scrutiny

for what a lot of Americans believe is the administration's attempt to marginalize the effectiveness or hamper the effectiveness, of the USPS so that voting by mail in the November election, which is probably going to be a huge,

huge component in the November election because we won't be able to show up to a lot of polling places and vote in person. So that that is tougher so that votes will not be counted. Votes not being counted is normally good for the Republican Party.

voter suppression is kind of their deal. And so you've seen on social media the last couple of days pictures of voting receptacles being rounded up, some of them being locked. And you've seen accusations towards the administration that they are trying to undermine the effectiveness of the USPS. And the Democrats in the Congress are taking action against.

this. Do you believe that the Trump administration is actively trying to suppress the effectiveness of the USPS and therefore engaging in sea to shining sea coast to coast of those suppression? A hundred percent believe that this is exactly what the Trump administration is doing. And if you don't like my opinion, just take the words of Donald Trump. He's all but admitted to it. He said, and I quote, now they, the they in parentheses, the fact if this was writing an article would be the Democrats need that money in order to have the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots. Quote, end quote. Quote again. By the way, those are just two items. But if they don't get those two items, that means you can't have universal mail in voting. Trump is telling you that he is not giving money to the post office because he doesn't want universal mail-in voting. You don't even need my opinion on that.

Presidents of the United States is politicizing, politicizing the post office. I don't even do people realize, we say this all the time, like, wake up, are you seeing what's happening? He politicizes everything. But this right here is like a threat to our democracy right here. is voter suppression, not just of a certain race, just period. He is suppressing or trying to suppress Democratic votes and he is admitting to it. And what Trump and the Republicans are saying is that melon voting is fraudulent and there's a lot of fraud that will happen. But they can't prove it. They literally are just throwing this accusation out there. And I don't know if you saw it on

CNN, but when Mark Meadows was questioned about it, he literally said, they literally said, there is no proof to show that there is fraud in mail-in voting. And he goes, well, there's no proof that there isn't. And then said, that's the definition of fraud. That's actually not the definition of fraud. And that doesn't mean that there is fraud in mail-in-voting. And I don't understand how an administration can continue to push this narrative when Trump has used mell in voting.

Melania has used melon voting. And a lot of people on his staff have used melon voting. But they want to push this narrative forward, making it seem like they're not against, they're not trying to suppress the Democratic vote. Also, furthermore, Trump sued Nevada because they are trying to do universal mail-in voting, but said it was okay for Florida because, quote,

they have a great Republican governor. I mean, the man is all but telling you he is using the poll, he is basically using the postal system or the postal service as a reason to suppress the Democratic vote. Yeah, so this is the specific danger of Donald Trump, right? And it's also the specific danger in the de-intellectualization of America, right? Where facts don't matter anymore. They sure don't.

The specific danger of Donald Trump is that there's no part of America that he's not willing to destroy to get at the goal that he wants. Right? So now we're in a situation where the Postal Service, which we should be honest, the Postal Service over the last X amount of years has seen some issues, right? Like the Postal Service is different now than it used to be. You have a lot of different parties that deliver mail faster, that deliver mail in different ways. It's a competitive thing. So the U.S. Postal Service. When you say issues, you're not talking about this fraudulent issues.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No issues of effectiveness, okay? Issues of, you know, just competition. People are using D.HL. People are using FedEx. People are doing all kinds of other things to kind of, you know, get their dean. And those companies have boomed. UPS and all those companies have boomed in the Postal Service is, you know, is what it is.

Now, I'll say this. The Postal Service still has an amazing capability to sort and deliver mail. do not let the president erode your confidence in the American Postal Service. They have machines that sort tens of thousands of pieces of mail per hour and then get them sorted and delivered with 99.5% accuracy. The Postal Service is just fine. And if operating at full capacity, I don't think that there will be much problem with the Postal Service

and their ability to deliver a fair result to November's elections. Now, there are some things that we're going to have to be wary of, meaning with everyone trying to vote by mail, there might be some places, particularly in Pennsylvania and Florida, or anyone who wants to cast a ballot for whatever candidate might have to cast that mail-in ballot a little bit earlier if you want it to be counted. Because with everyone using the mail-in,

system, there would be a backlog, the potential that there would be a backlog of votes of ballots out there that might not get counted in time. But that's something that would happen no matter what. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. Well, I was just going to say what they've sent out notices that 44 states are affected by this. It's...

46. Oh, 46. Excuse me even worse. 46 states are... They're telling you to... to cast your ballots early to mail them in early because of what's happening right now, because sorting machines are being removed, even though the Trump administration is saying that's not happening.

I mean, I think the last thing I saw was 671, which have what did I have written down, that can sort over 20 million pieces of paper mail per hour. Right. That's what's been taken away. Right. And so, you know, the more of those machines, the more of those, even the male receptacles themselves that are taken out, the bigger the burden on the postal service and the higher the chance that there are votes that do not get counted.

But the specific danger of the Trump administration, and we talk about this, right? We talk about when people, and I talk to even a lot of my homies about this, where they go, well, you know, there's both the Trump and Biden or this and this and this and that and this and this and that. And I understand people who have, to a degree, lost faith in the American political system to where they don't believe that any specific president represents economic, political, or societal change for their community. I get that. I understand that. But I also want people to understand the specificity of the danger of the Trump administration. The reason why I say that is because Trump will burn it all down. Like he'll burn it all down.

He will. like the Postal Service is a very important piece. It's the fucking Postal Service. And if Donald Trump has to destroy it or erode American confidence in it to get what he wants and he'll do that, there's nothing too sacred, nothing too integral to our way of life that the Trumps won't destroy or diminish. That's why the de-intellectualization of America, having trouble with that word today is important because we're going to, over the next close to 90 days, inside 70, something, whatever it is, over the next exomime days,

we're going to need Americans to be smart. And we're going to need them to be able to see through the propaganda machine that they're getting to understand the freedoms and the rights that are being taken away from them and how that doesn't just have to exist in a moment, those freedoms and those rights can be taken away from them in perpetuity. Like forever. So with this particular situation, it seems like another thing that is kind of,

but like this is a major, major sticking point. This is a big, big moment. There is a way for us to have a free and fair election. And then there is a way for us to have an election that's framed by fascism. and by an aspiring autocrat, which the president has shown himself to be. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, I think the craziest thing is, is that Trump is putting information out there that's making it seem like the Postal Service is only about mail-in voting, when people rely on it for just their everyday needs. That's what's the craziest thing. They're asking for money to just function. Like most businesses, like most people, they too have been impacted. by the pandemic.

And they are asking for relief. Not so Joe Biden can be in office simply so they can provide a service that they've been doing forever. That's it. And if you can't see past it, it's almost like there's just no hope for you. And then with Trump now backtracking

and saying he supports the service, that gives those people who are on the Trump side to say, well, no, wait a minute. He actually said he is, he does believe in the postal service. He does back. them. But what is he doing behind the scenes? That's what you need to pay attention to. What is Trump doing? Trump is trying to suppress votes. That's really what it's stripped down to. He himself has admitted it in so

many words. Yeah. And even that tactic, right? The tactic of, because remember, Trump's supporters don't care that he's wearing a mask now. They're still fighting the mass civil war. They're like, they're like they don't, they don't care, right? So all they need to do is, hear their initial marching orders from the president, and that's what they act off of. So, and the administration realizes that. They realize that they realize if they spend two or three weeks telling people that masks are bad,

that even when they come back around and go, okay, master good, which they would do for a political jouse with the left, right, to say, oh, we were always pro-mass, but no, you weren't. And the damage that you've done to your constituency and your base is already there. And so the same thing with the Postal Service. Trouble come back and say, ah, I love the Postal Service.

yeah, give them the 25 billion the Democrats want to give them so they can operate at their highest capacity, right? And we can have a free and fair election. I've always been about that. But the problem with that is you've already sowed the seeds of confusion and dissension within the American electorate to make them believe that the Postal Service can't be counted on. That way, if you lose the election and you decide that you're either going to challenge the results or in the worst case scenario, not leave the White House. at all, you've created the emotional sort of basis within your group to do so. Remember, I told you that this was going to happen. Yeah.

And you can kind of play both sides of it and use, you know, the people that disseminate information for the president in order to do that. It's just, it's a weird and an oddly simple but effective game that you're really going to have to be educated in order to not fall victim to it. But it doesn't matter when your base. And I was going to say fan base because that's really what it's becoming is cult-like. They just follow whatever he does. They're not trying to listen to facts or do their own research.

They're listening to what he tells us. And then they act or re-say, reiterate that same rhetoric. That's it. And that's why it's so hard to combat because it's cult-like. That's it. Right. So we are going to be dedicated to this. not to

not even to the the specific discussion of President Trump and his and his sort of involvement in this, we're going to be dedicated to you guys knowing, especially in the crucial states, especially

in the crucial states, all of our thought warriors that are in Pennsylvania and Florida and Wisconsin and Texas, which might be in play. Okay. Arizona, Ohio. places like that, Michigan, states that are going to be really important to decide in this election,

we're going to be dedicated to you knowing exactly what it is that you need to do to not be disenfranchised. Yeah. Okay. Florida and Pennsylvania, very, very, very important. Very important. Really to me? Really?

Seriously? Really to me? I would almost just focus. on those two states. I would just focus on Florida and Pennsylvania in terms of making sure that the votes in those two states

are fair because they're going to be so crucial and important to what happens in November. Florida and Pennsylvania. Well, Florida's got up, Florida, Miami Day, it has a big local election tomorrow. You got mayor up. So

I didn't change my license in time enough, but for those of you out there. Today is a voting day for you. So who's running for mayor? Who's running for mayor out there? Is Uncle Luke Luther Campbell running? Why didn't Luke just run for mayor? I saw Luke on an ad the other day promoting somebody else. No, he's not running. You would vote for him? I would definitely vote for Uncle Luke. If I lived in Miami, if I lived in Miami, I tell you what Uncle Luke should do. What? Uncle Luke, listen to me. You help raise me.

Your music. Uncle Luke should run and this should be his campaign slogan. I feel like you've thought about this before, but please go ahead. Luther Campbell, me so horny for change. Oh my God.

Oh, my God. Me so horny for change. Oh, my God. He's horny for change. Ah, me so horny. Oh, we got it. We got it. Oh, we got it.

Me so horrid. Like I'm saying? And you could bump that joint, right? You bump that joint. But then you say, and then he comes into the back, me so horny. Stop. And then he comes back and he says, I'm so horny for, you know what I'm saying, for income equality. No, we just have this deep discussion about the United States Postal Service.

But think about it. And about Trump and how these people think and being intellectual. And here comes Van, Van, with the. Me-So-horny slogan. The me-so-horny slogan works because think about it. What does it mean when you're horny? When you're horny, it means that you essentially want something so bad. Think about that.

That's the usual. We should all be horny for- horny for change, Rachel. We should all be horny for change. More than they would be out headed to vote. No. Oh, y'all hear that new, that new Uncle Luke? Here's a thing, though.

Think about when you're actually horny, right? When you're actually horny, what you're willing to do for satisfaction. You're willing to drive across town for it. You're willing to stay up. You're willing to starve yourself for it. You're willing to pay all kinds of crazy money for it. That's how we have to be about America political and social change. We got to be horny for it. What's the definition of horny? What's the definition of horny? Give me the definition. No, hold on. I understand. I understand. I'm on to something. I don't know what it means. I'm on to something. I think all the thought warriors understand. Copper understands. We all get it.

We know copper understands. Copper, I'm going to look up the definition of horny right now. Just horny. Here it is. It says horny. Feeling or arousing sexual excitement, right? So let's change that definition. Oh, now you want to change it.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, because I'm saying you're horny for something. Feeling or arousing political excitement. It's got to be. be that level, Rachel, on a human, ah, bass animal level. That's how we got to be worth. We got to be horny for change. Horny for change.

Make a t-shirt. That's it. T-shirts are coming. Uncle Luke, you're missing out. You made the number one anthem with the word horny in it, and you could be down there in Miami. You made it. You made it.

Now, something happened yesterday. That was very confusing to me. What? I don't know how to feel. Okay. And I got to do something I never, ever do. What? I got to take my hat off to Kim Kardashian.

I do. Wow. It's weird. Ben, you have the floor. Go ahead. I got to take my hat off to Kim Kardashian. I do. I really do.

And I have to take my hat off to Kim Kardashian, not even for what she specifically did, but for the tactic that she's using. Okay. Okay. So if you guys don't know what it is that I'm talking about, Kim Kardashian went on her Twitter. And on her Twitter,

she talked about the fact that she is seeking freedom for a Louisiana man that was convicted of murder. This Louisiana man is named Corey Miller. Now, if you don't know the name, name Corey Miller. You might potentially know him as C. Murder. C. Murder is one-third of TRU rap group with Silk

and Master P. He is also one of the most pioneering rappers in Southern hip-hop history on his own, on his solo tip. C. Murder was one of my favorite. He was. C. Murder was a big time solo artist. He also said he's one of your favorites, so now I know where the bias is coming in, but keep going. I like C-Murder.

I'm not like- Love C-Murder. See, murder in no limits. C-Murder was like, so Massa P was the brains in No Limit, right? Okay. And as in like Silk, he was kind of like the star and the young star of No Limit, right? You know, whatever you guys believe about

Silk. Y'all like to hate on Silk. I think Silk's... He stutters over his rap lyrics. I can't. But Silk was the one that was doing records with Maya, and he was, they were pushing silk as a young star. He was a cutest one. Yeah, okay. But C murder was the authenticity of no limit. He was the soul of no limit. He was the one, he was the real one when it came down to it. That's nothing to get, you know, obviously Silka P. They were, I mean, Master P changed hip hop. So, but C murder was the one, ah, is that C murder, okay? Now, he is Masterpiece,

brother, Masterpiece Silk and Sea Murder are all brothers. Kim said that she was going to try to freeze Sea Murder. She said that, and this is something that down there in Louisiana, a lot of people believe that C murder was wrongly convicted. I cannot speak on that. We should say that in the case of C murder, a young man was killed. There was a young man killed. And we want justice for that family.

We always want justice for any family that uses, that loses someone, especially I think the kid was particularly young. I think 16 or 17 or something at this time. But when you talk to P and you talk to Silk, they really don't believe that their brother is guilty of this crime. And C. Murder has maintained his innocence since he was found guilty. Even when he was charged, he's always maintained his innocence. He's maintained his innocence. And according to what Kim say and what P and Silk say, since the conviction, there have been numerous witnesses to recant their stories. And there has been enough for some people to believe that C murder should be granted a second look, a second chance at freedom, a second trial, or that the conviction itself should be overturned outright.

Now, why am I confused? why am I confused? Why was this brilliant by by Kim Kardashian? This is why. I am sick of the Kardashians. I am on record in saying this. I'm sick of them.

Absolutely sick of the Kardashians. However, it's hard not for me to care about whether or not see murder got done wrong. If Kim Kardashian then finds out or gets to the bottom of whether or not see murder is in jail unjustly,

in prison unjustly, does that prove her usefulness? I know she's already done big things for Alice Johnson and other people, but like this is something, and that doesn't mean to, I don't mean to diminish Alice Johnson or any of the other people that Kim Kardashian is separate. But this right here is somebody who means something culturally to me.

it's weird. But it's a brilliant move by her because she almost got all of Louisiana by doing that. Is that the tactic that you said that you love so much? The tactic, it's very, very, very intentional.

It's incredibly intentional. Boosie. Boosey said, Boosey, basically the biggest rapper we ever have from Badd Moosey said, Boosey said, yo, if you get, if you get C murder-free,

I love you forever. you're not going to be able to there's so many people from back home that you're not going to be able to tell them nothing if she gets see murder free actually let me just correct that i love busi i loved him he has done some very problematic things and said some things i just before anybody says anything that i do not agree with i just want to put that up there too because i feel like i well no i just feel like i said i love busy i mean that was that's college music you know it takes me back to a time i love this music but i disagree with a lot of the things he's done since then um that have been problematic specific towards women. I just want to put that out there. Here's my thing with you and the Kardashians. I think you can separate the two. I think you can say, you know what? I'm sick of the Kardashians because of how they maybe exploit the culture you feel like. Or maybe because we see so much of them in social media.

They're everywhere. I think you can separate that and say, I'm sick of seeing them in that regard. but you are happy or excited about the criminal justice reform that Kim Kardashian has been committed to since Alice Marie Johnson. I think that it's okay for you to recognize that and to say, I don't like this part, but I love the work that she's doing. She's using her platform for something great. And I know a lot of people knocked Kim for, you know, like, oh, she's just doing this for this or, oh, she's just going to law school. Who cares? She's making a difference.

And I think that that's what you have to focus on. So whether it be a C murder or the next person, because there's several people she's been involved with and has even spoken to President Trump on their behalf, fighting for criminal justice reform, I think that it's okay for you to acknowledge that. It's okay to say you like that side of the Kardashians. It doesn't change anything. You could separate the two. It's going to be okay then. It's going to be okay. Yeah.

I get it. Look, by the way, I don't know whether or not C murder is innocent or guilty. I don't. But what I do know is that if C murder is innocent, I would love to see him home. If he didn't, if I do this, I talked about it before, two witnesses in 2018 say that they were there and that he wasn't the shooter. And that's what people are trying to do. I do not want to in any way belittle or sort of at, to a family's pain that lost someone if they feel like they got justice. I don't want to. You want justice served, right? I want justice served. But can we also not, and this is what I do hate with the Kardashians, is they become involved and it becomes all about them,

whether you want to say fault to them or not. But let's not take away from the fact that Monica has been fighting for years alongside Master P and Silk and the rest of the family for C-Murders' innocence because she was dating him at the time that this happened. And she hasn't stopped fighting for him. But Monica doesn't have the same platform that a Kardashian does. And so now it's getting even more attention when she's

been doing this since 2009. Yeah, Monica been down. And Monica and C Murder have a very spiritual type relationship that, you know, she's never going to stop fighting for her. You know, Monica was married to a different guy and all of that stuff like that. But it doesn't matter. She'll she'll always be there for a C and always be somebody who believes. in his innocence. So, you know, that's not surprising. The Kim Kardashian thing was sort of surprising. And apparently, Monica.

Well, I mean... He's famous. So I don't think that's surprising. Tusha. But I think that... And did Monica apparently put Kim Kardashian with Lala, Anthony? Or excuse me, Lala, apparently Monica reached out to Lala, who's friends with Kim Kardashian.

And that's how everybody got kind of in the same sphere to have this done. It's just a weird thing to wear. And it kind of makes you, can you compartmentalize? Because that's what you're asking me to do. Can you compartmentalize? Can you? And it's hard for me. But it was a savvy, back to my point, though, it was a savvy move.

Because there's a lot of people that's going to not, because if she delivers, it's like, it's a lot of people. It's not a lot of people. It's Louisiana. It is. No, is that what your call you said? It's not just Louisianaans that would love. There's a whole southern hip hop culture that the big screaming's frees

murder for a long, long time. It's not just Louisiana. I get that, but I wasn't like, whoa, look what Kim Kardashian is doing. Like, I saw the story before we even put it in the rundown and never even thought to talk about it. That's because you don't really love the culture like you say you do, though. Oh, okay. I just think for you there's a personal bias because see murder is your favorite. I'm fully aware of like I'm a big,

I'm actually a big Louisiana. No limit. I'm more cash money than I am no limit. But I'm a big Southern Louisiana music fan. Big, big. That's why you don't care. I'm cash money. That's why you don't care. That's why you don't care about C murder

because you got the cash money no limit beef. How many times have I tried to put the No Limit Chronicles documentary in the rundown? I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan. I wanted to talk about it. By the way, shout out to BT, Master P, being able to tell his story. You guys, a lot of people, a lot of Thought Warriors, might not know specifically the importance of the figures that we're talking about.

Master P is to me one of the 10 most important black business professionals of that decade for what he was able to do, the deal he was able to craft, how he was able to build his brand, his brothers, his music record, impact. hire all up from absolutely nothing zero zip zilch. Shout out to Massapy, had him on a podcast back in the day. I look at him as a mentor, as a big homie, as all of those things. But yeah, it's interesting. The question is, is it time to take Kim Kardashian's efforts in this realm seriously? And if you don't take them seriously by now, is it that you're just hating on her? Am I just hating on Kim Kardashian at this point?

Yeah, yes and yes, just because you can't take away the good that someone's doing. You know, it's not that she's doing anything bad. You're just sick of her. We're just tired of seeing so much of her not doing anything. Okay, people have complained that Kim Kardashian doesn't have any talents. She's not doing anything. She's just taking pretty pictures and just being a face and a body. Now here is Kim Kardashian actually doing something beautiful with her platform.

Are we still going to hate on her? You can't. You can't. what she's doing. You can't. It's tough. I mean, she does have a television show coming out that's going to chronicle all of this stuff. It came out, I believe, in April of this year, and she's supposed to have another one or another episode coming out soon.

Kim Kardashian, the Justice Project. Somebody has a problem with the title of the name. That's okay. I don't have a problem. No, I don't have a problem with it. I don't have a problem with it. Okay. But I have, like, the criminal justice space is full.

of amazing, unbelievably dedicated activists. It is. It's full of them. Full of them. Okay? Full of full organizations that have been doing this for a long, long time. There are some that believe that somebody

who has a significant amount of celebrity coming along and becoming the face of a movement that they haven't particularly devoted their lives to is not the way it should go. I have such a problem with this. I get it. I get you feeling that way. One, we don't know what this documentary is going to entail. And we don't know if she's going to highlight other people that have been involved way before she has or dedicated their life. But if the common goal is criminal justice reform, who cares who's the face of it? Are you trying to be the face? Are you trying to push forward an initiative. That's what I have the biggest problem with. It's very much so

contradictory to me for you to want to be against somebody who's pushing forward the same initiative that you have just because you might not be getting the shine. I get it. You've got to be dedicated to the initiative and the goal and not be distracted by a Kardashian who may come up and join the fight as well. I just, I get it. I get why you would be upset. But I I don't think that that's right if you're all fighting for the same thing. I understand it. I understand your point, but I'm still going to do something right now. Michelle Alexander is a civil rights attorney, social justice activist, bestselling author of the new Jim Crow, mass incarceration in the age of colorblindness.

She c. McDonald, okay? C.C. McDonald. I'm going to give you some of these names right here. Give it to me. Give it to everybody. Cicin McDonough was attacked with a glass bottle in Minneapolis, okay, after getting shouted, racist and the transphobic comments at her. She was in, she retaliated by stabbing a man. He died. This was crazy.

She pled guilty, charged in second degree murder. It was sentenced to 41 months in a men's prison. She became an activist. for criminal justice reform, transgender rights, very important, a lady. Patrice Colors, amazing, okay? Patrice Colors, Black Lives Matter, all-encompassing, amazing person.

I'm saying the names. Marion Wright Edelman, another person. These are names that you guys need to know that have been fighting for this stuff a long, long time ago. And, of course, the amazing Angela Davis, who is one of the oldest contributors, to thought warrior-like opinions on this and represents a monument of freedom

and radical, revolutionary, blackness and action with every breath that she draws. I'm not trying to take anything away from Kim Kardashian. No, you're just bringing awareness to it, and I get it. And I think that if the goal is to bring awareness and to encourage people to join the fight, if somebody has a huge platform like Kim Kardashian-West, then why are we not applauding her efforts to join the fight?

It's not about a plot of her efforts. I'm going to give you an example of something, right? And this is the dangerous part of it. It's dangerous when people honeymoon with your struggle. If Kim Kardashian is going to be devoted to this and going to, you know, and it's for anybody with anything. If she's going to be devoted to this and going to put herself out there and devote her life to this, that's a man.

amazing. She's going to, you know, throw a whole bunch of shine on it and stuff like that and use a platform. That's great. But sometimes what happens is these efforts and these initiatives and these fights and these struggles, they're not temporary. They're not. They exist in a long time. And a lot of times when you put something on, when you put the light on something like that, the danger is one day you move your light to something different and your flock goes with you. And then the women that actually need the women and the men that actually need us to support them for a lifelong effort of this, they get victimized when you move on to the next thing, right? When you go to the next thing, when it's no longer trendy or popular to do it, well, now the fight for criminal justice reform

or freeing people or, you know, against the death penalty, whatever it might be, now that's not trending anymore, we've been there and we did that. So there's a specific danger to Kim Kardashian getting involved into something like this if she's not willing to go in for the long haul. Because the women that I just mentioned and so many more women who are working for this, black women, by the way, who never get the credit that they deserve for what they do, they're going to need me and my energy and my activism and my voice and my platform long after some people move on to something different. I totally agree with you. And I, I, think that Kim Kardashian got involved prior to what's happening, what we're seeing, not think,

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And my skepticism, I don't even know if it's skepticism. It's just, I don't want to be led. She's got black children. That's the only thing. I would like to think that the reason she got involved is looking in the bed and seeing that she's with a black man and seeing four black children running around her, and so are her nieces and nephews. I guess that's what I hope continues her fight.

Like, it's, your children are going to be affected by this. No? Okay. No. They're black. They're black. They are. They are.

But they're. I get the privilege and everything you want to attach to. I'm just saying. They're black. I get the. I know what you're saying. They're Kim and Kanye's kids, you know. I guess what I'm saying is you're not, you're not removed from it.

You, you, your kids are half black. Hey, look, look, look dead as black. Guess what I'm doing right now. I'm being an asshole. Okay? Do we need to make an announcement? That comes every single podcast. Oh, we should also say real quick,

a hip-hop sort of crime was not solved, but at least got closer to being solved. Jam Master Jay, you guys might not have heard that name, some of you might not have heard it. But he was one third of one of the most important hip hop groups of all time, run DMC, was actually run DMC and Jam Master Jay. Jam Master Jay was murdered some years ago, decade plus ago, I think.

And his killers were never brought to Justin. It's been a lot, been a lot. His killers were never brought to justice. Finally, in this year, 2020, two men were just arrested for the 2002 slaying of Jammer. Master Jay. So when I say that's been nearly 20 years. Wow. I don't know where that's going to go, but, you know, maybe Jam Master Jay's family, the culture, and a lot of other people are one step closer to having some sort of justice or reconciliation with what happened to him. I should say, people that might be out there talking about, you know, everything that Jay did in the 80s, which you can't even quantify how important run DMC was to hip hop.

You're probably not listening to all the Drake and Young Thug and all this stuff you're listening to right now. If Young Thug did, if Run DMC didn't keep those doors down. But also, even in the more recent, Jam Master Jay incredibly, incredibly influential in the rise of one Curtis 50 Cent Jackson. One of the first people to start working with 50 Cent. So Jamestrower J has had a thumbprint, had a thumbprint. And the way that he was murdered was just absolutely horrible. So very, very sad. Now, the Washington football franchise made a move.

The Washington, what do we call them? The Washington Racist. Washington football team? Washington football team? I guess I don't know what to call them. Like, we need a new name. We need a name. Yeah.

If you had to choose the Washington football team's new name, what would you choose? Red tails. The Red tails. Okay. For the, you know, the Red Tisian. To Tuskegee Elman, they shoot people down, Michael B. Jordan, the whole movie is. Did you see Red Tales in theaters? No, you didn't.

Because you're all about supporting stuff, but like when we need you to go into the theater and go see the movie, then you don't go see it. Movies. We've established this. Okay. No, you know what? I didn't see the theaters either. But like, I didn't. Right.

I didn't. I wouldn't saw Underworld. But, but. But I didn't see it. But you know what I did do? I bought a ticket to it. I bought a ticket to it. I didn't see any theaters.

I bought a ticket to it. Well, I just suggested that they should be the name of the Washington formally known as. You're using your platform to effect. So Washington hired Jason Wright. Jason Wright was a partner in a consulting firm called McKinsey and Company. And he would help rebuild companies in people. peril. He is now the president of the Washington football team. He is the first black president of a national football league team. So he is in his past incarnations in his past professional life, he has

rebuilt companies in peril. I think that the Washington football team certainly fits the bill of a company in peril, not just because of the, you know, the, obvious name change scandal that they have, but also because of recent revelations of sexual harassment and misconduct that went on inside of the organizations unchecked, shall I say, for years. So he's got a lot of work to do, Jason Wright.

First black president of an NFL team. NFL, a league that is consistently, consistently around 70 to 75% black, if I'm right, could be a little higher, could be a little lower, but in 2020 now, has their first black team president. Hmm. Hmm. How long has the NFL been around 100 years?

Something like that. Something like that. 100 years. First black president. I mean, this just is so reflective of what the NFL represents, which is why they can't get things right. When it comes to social justice initiatives, they just don't get it. And that's partly because they don't have any representation in their front offices

to explain this to them. I am excited for Jason Wright. Did you know that he was the son of a former Black Panther? I did not know that. I saw that. And his middle name is GoMillion. And it's in honor of his great uncle who was an activist professor at the Tuskegee Institute.

I mean, this man is like deep rooted, you know, with black culture. And not to, I mean, that's just adding on to the rest of his resume that you just pointed out. I am excited for him. I'm also very, very nervous from him. This is a big, big task to take. Whenever you're the first, you are, there's a lot of pressure on you.

Everybody's watching you. You almost are going to be setting the example of what's to come. And this man is getting this job in the middle of a pandemic. We don't know how the NFL is going to deal with COVID. in the middle of Black Lives Matter and also with decades' worth of issues that you just brought up, not to mention that the team has eight losing seasons

in the last 11 years. I mean, there's a lot of work to be done and what I don't want for people to do is look at Jason Wright as this miracle worker. Like, he is going to turn the entire franchise around. No, that's not necessarily his job. It's not to turn everything around. It is just to make some change.

So I do commend Dan Snyder, which do we ever do that for this hire. I think this is, it's obviously novel, but I don't think he was anyone who was on the shortlist. So it seems like they kind of broke the mold in getting Jason right. And I do have to not the Washington football team for their colorful changes they've been making. Black quarterback, even though now they're saying, you know, he's going to be challenged in that with Alex Smith being activated. Yeah, Alex Smith coming back. What a fucking crazy story. Alex Smith.

Alex Smith should not only should Alex Smith not be playing football. Alex Smith maybe shouldn't have legs. Alex Smith maybe shouldn't even be alive. Alex Smith's story, some kind of way. You guys go look at Alex Smith's shit. Shout out to Stefanya Bell, my girl who had the exclusive who documented that whole journey. Like Alex Smith's legs just went. And he like, he like, did you.

And he worked his way back, you tough, son of a bitch bastard, Alex Smith. Like, you're not even going to be bad if he gets the position over Haskins, are you? Look, Haskins is, to me, has the good. I think he's very talented. He's going to be a player in this league for a long time. And I hate saying stuff like that about former Ohio State players because my man in Mecca just has the biggest head. Shout out to the Pilot Boys podcast. Emeka has the biggest head about all things Ohio State.

So I hate complimenting Ohio State athletes. But Haskins will be great. Long time, going to be a pro bowler, going to be a starter. Give Alex Smith a little bit just for getting back. You guys, don't take my word for it. Go look at how Alex Smith worked himself back. That God damn warrior. I think he had like 17 surgeries.

I mean, he got an infection in his leg. From a football injury. It's crazy. Died. Died. See? You know what that? You know why?

You know why? We talked about this before. You know why he was able to come back? It's probably because white people would be drinking milk. Alex Smith, because I don't know how white people's stomachs can handle like a whole milk like that. Like, just like you, you be at your homeboy's house and like, you see, he said, hey, van, come over. I'm going to get a refreshment. And you go, okay, you're going to go in there and get yourself maybe some, maybe some water, you know, perhaps you'd get some juice.

and then if he's white the home boy he takes out a thing of a whole milk and he pours it and then you watch him drink the whole milk and you think you psychopaths why are you drinking a glass of whole milk but then Alex Smith who grew up on whole milk probably

because he's white then he fucks up his bones and the whole milk he's like a T-1000 it like bonds his bones back together man shout out to that. The only black people I've seen that will pull out like a gallon of milk like that

are people who are black people who grew up on a farm. My dad grew up on a farm. And so he used to drink milk like that. Not anymore. I don't know when it. Your dad's a whole milk drinker? 2%. But there was a time when he would drink whole milk.

I mean, 2% milk. And I've never been a fan of dairy, like ever. So I don't do that. Of course you have it. It's not in your DNA. But my dad, growing up on a farm, I'm talking like, hey, horses, cows, all the animals, you know, going to the rodeo, like very much so, family of 11.

Do you think that your dad, do you think that your dad likes whole milk because that's what they serve on Epstein's playing? I didn't hear you. And then it took a while for me to register what you actually said. My dad's going to have this whole podcast shut down. Oh, my God. But no, Jason Wright, you know, I'm looking them up right now. there's so many things I did not know about this,

brothers. It's like, despite the joking around, it is a historic moment. He actually was an NFL player himself for some years. He looked to be a running back. 633 yards on his NFL career. Two Russian touchdowns. Over four years? Over four years?

Looks like six because he started off with the 90s and 04, ended up with the Cardinals 2010. Big job. Here's the thing about Jason Ryan. I'm looking at the personal life that you're talking about. he worked at the he was a partner at mackenzie and company he worked in environmental and organizational culture

including diversity inclusion here's the issue with the jason right hire not an issue but if you think about when president obama took over the country right took over the country in 2008 and besides the moment that we're in right now thanks to another group of republicans but despite the moment we're in right now 2008 was all fucked up okay

2008 we had the worst financial crisis that we had we had wars waging everywhere and so people don't really look back on the first term of Barack Obama in terms of what it was that he really needed to fix he had to turn an economy around America was losing standing globally

people no longer believe that maybe we weren't who we said we were all the same things that we're into right now right And President Obama rose to the task. Him and his entire administration was not a perfect administration by any means, right? And maybe we could have gotten more out of it. But if you're looking to a change of the economy, getting Osama bin Laden, and making some progress on some of the things that he tried to make progress on, you have to rate President Obama's presidency as a resounded success. You'd have to, looking at where we were.

Jason Wright is in much the same situation with Washington. Washington is in a terrible position as a franchise right now. So not only do you have to be the measuring stick, which is inherently racist, right, that any one person is going to be the measuring stick for their entire race based on that performance when there are 40 or 50 million black people out here and one person's ability to do a job

should not in any way affect another person's ability to a job. Whatever, that's a separate fucking thing. But he's doing it. doing it in a situation to where it's very, very, like the odds are against them. Yeah, they are. It's a tough, tough situation. He has to know that coming in. I mean, I feel like I read something where he's recognized it, but I don't think he realizes

the pressure. Not it's like, forget being the first black president of a team, just the pressure of what he's accepting. And COVID alone, you don't even know how you're going to, the NFL is going to function or how he's going to be able to function with the team in the middle of COVID. It's just a lot. But good luck to him. I wish him all the best. I hope that he is a miracle worker and he can change things and turn them around to where he just paves the way for a whole slew of people of color stepping into the role of president

for NFL teams. Yeah. Look, for a lead that has, you know, such a high concentration of black players, it's part of the next phase of the NFL's evolution is going to be in empowering some of those black players that the league makes his money with. And in the past, you know, you could look at certain things and be like, okay, well, all the QBs are black or white and all that stuff like that. But now you see the league changing a lot on the field.

Yeah. On the field, you see guys like Mahomes and Lamar Jackson and different things, but you also see the NFL's inability to reconcile situations like the Colin Kaepernick situation. They were a little clumsy out of the gate on, you know, some of the things that were changing in society just here recently. And you hope that.

at least incrementally, the league can be moving forward. I can tell you right now, I will have no trust, no trust in the NFL evolving until they've properly reconciled and atoned for what they did to Colin Kaepernick and what they are currently doing to another player, Eric Reed. You guys, it's flying under the radar what's happening to Eric Reed right now. Eric Reed didn't just come back and have a successful season for the Carolina Panthers last year. Eric Reed had a record-breaking season for the Carolina Panthers this year and remains unsigned and inactive on an NFL roster at the age of 28.

Shout out to my boy Eric Reed. Wow, he's that young. He's that young. Shout out to my boy Eric Reed, who is a fine, fantastic top-flight NFL talent, top-flight NFL player. What's happening to him is a political lynching, and it needs to be discussed.

Come on, Jason. Washington football team could use him in the secondary for sure. For sure. Eric Reed could be used. Jason, make it happen. Make it happen. That would be a power move.

Yeah, bring it Eric Reed. Like, you got the job. See, this is why I like, you got the job, bro. going there, now it's time to wear your beret. Going there and say, yo. You got the juice. You got the juice now.

Jason, put your beret on. Going there right now and say, I got a team name. Like your daddy did. Like your daddy. The Washington Black Panthers. You know what I'm saying? And then, by the way, if they say no, come to us.

Come to the culture. Say, yo, I wanted to change the Washington Black Panthers. You know what I'm saying? I wanted to make our headquarters called the Black House. The whole deal. See what they say. Fuck with them. Drop your nuts, Jason.

But seriously, congratulations. Congratulations, Jason. Congratulations, Jason. Now, different black man making news for different reasons. That man's name is Daniel Cameron. Daniel Cameron is the Attorney General down there in Kentucky where Brianna Taylor was killed. You guys, we have not, will not, and we'll never forget about Brianna Taylor. As a matter of fact, we know Breonna Taylor's name.

We're never going to forget her name. But before we even get into this, I want to mention three other names, because these are the names that we should be remembering. Jonathan Maddenly, Miles Cosgrove, and Brett Hankinson. Those are the three cops that kill Brianna Taylor. Jonathan Maddenly, Miles Cosgrove, and Brett Hankinson. You don't get to be anonymous. You killed our sister.

You get to be famous and villainized by this culture and not just this culture, but any group of people that believes that an American citizen should not be executed by the state for no reason. Now, the Attorney General down there, like I said, finally, after 150 days, has met with the family of Brianna Taylor. The meeting, and I quote, provided an opportunity for Attorney General Cameron to personally express his condolences to the family. It's at the Office of the Attorney General. The investigation remains ongoing, and our Office of Special Prosecutions continues to review all the facts in the case. to determine the truth. You heard this news and you thought what? I thought it was performative

that he decided to meet with the family. As you just stated, it's been 150 days. I don't care that you were waiting for an investigation to be complete or you were waiting for something to happen because I believe that's what he said. He didn't want to interfere with the investigation. How does meeting with the family and giving them absolutely no new news

or new information with the family interfere with the investigation, When protesters popped up to your house to demand justice, they were arrested. Like, you could have done this. Like, this man was, I believe, the first black attorney general elected for the state of Kentucky. And when you are tested for the first time, this is what you do. You don't even represent. You don't even try to seek justice. I mean, all you had to do was go meet with the family.

A phone call, something. You've been hiding. I'm sorry. I know you've been celebrating your recent engagement, I believe it was, or marriage. That's what he's been distracted doing. He hasn't been, he easily, easily could have reached out to this family to give them something. To say that there's an ongoing investigation, to say that they're waiting on the FBI to finish doing their report, which is what they're waiting on. So I look at this and I'm not hopeful.

I mean, a lot of the information that came out. It wasn't a lot. It said he met with them. Even the announcement from the Attorney General's office in Kentucky was just like he met with them. he offered his condolences. He said that he's still waiting for some things for the FBI. He didn't make any promises. He didn't say that justice will be served.

I know the family is hopeful. We weren't privy to those conversations. The only thing that I am riding on is that he did talk to or civil rights attorney Ben Crump said that he's hopeful that the arrest will be made in connection with Breonna Taylor's death sooner than later. That's what he said, quote. So that gives me more hopeful. hope than anything, because I trust what Ben Crump is saying. Oh, did you see that he's getting a documentary made about in his life?

Who Ben Crump? That's amazing. Ben Crump, good brother. That's a good brother. Ben Crump, hit Ben Crump up. This is what I want. What do you want? I want Attorney General Daniel Cameron to attack justice for Breonna Taylor.

The same way he would have attacked Justice. in this scenario. Let's say Cause Grove, Maddenly, and Hankinson were inside one of their homes.

Chilling, doing whatever it is, cops do. You know, planning the next person, they're going to come across the head with the nightstick or whatever,

doing what cops do. They're hanging out. And Brianna Taylor and somebody, for some reason, mistakenly walk into where they are and slaughter them.

Mm-hmm. Daniel Cameron would have gone on a worldwide hunt for justice. Breonna Taylor and whoever else would have been involved in that. Let's not use our sister's name in it. Let's say whoever would have been involved in that would have been made the poster children for American criminals, for savagery, and for all of that. And they would, and he would have made it priority. Number one to talk to the people of Kentucky about why this heinous, unimaginable, and senseless crime had to be adjudicated, why these cops had to have justice.

Whether it was a mistake, whether whatever the running fucking excuse of the day for this is, he would have put his career and his reputation as Attorney General on the line in finding justice for what happened. You ask me what I want. I want that energy. I want that energy. I want the energy of not of placating the family after 150 days of going to talk to people and saying that we're working on it. I want the energy that would have been reserved for having.

that this been police officers that lost their lives when they didn't do a fucking thing. Right. See, that's what I want. And by the way, we're talking about a sister who was a public servant. Was involved. Was an EMS. Like, we're talking about somebody who was a public servant, the death, the senseless death of a public servant. Okay?

Someone who didn't do anything, who's just in there doing. So to me, I want that. energy. And more to the point, I'm trying to understand if this man, Daniel Cameron, represents his state and is supposed to be finding justice or delivering justice equitably for everyone, why we haven't had that energy. Right. Like, what's the point of not having had that energy? Why it hasn't been like that? Why does he not care or does it seem to care that she died? I know for a... fact, I bet a dollar against a million, a million against one that had this situation been

reversed, he'd be everywhere. He built his political career based upon finding truth and justice. Yep. So where is that? That's the energy I want. Because this fucking energy here, this ain't doing nothing. No one is okay with this. I understand, brother Trump, brother Crump got to be in these places, got to deal with

these people, got to go out there and do that. We need him where he at. So love to him. But as far as what I want, what we want, the people that I talk to, we want justice for Brianna and we want punishment for her killers. And anything short of that is bullshit. Right. And I'm not dealing with it.

So that's it. So I don't know why it's not, why it's all, why we always get the quiet justice, why we always get the muted version of it. I want the loud, boisterous. This is a huge tragedy. This is, should never happen in this country. This is, we're going to get these savages. We're going to get these criminals.

We want to get, that's what I want. And he's not delivering that. He don't care. Not at all. Not at all. You know, you what I'm saying? Like, she's dead. Guys, listen to me.

She's dead. She's not coming back. She's dead. And we're fucking around. No, I mean, I don't have anything to say after that because if the head when the headline reads he went to visit the family after 150 days almost as if to mark it was literally the anniversary as what people were saying that's that's all you need to know it took 150 days for this man to show this family anything and then when he showed up he

had absolutely nothing to give them that's all you need to know that's all you need to know i'm very curious to know what his platform was that he ran on when he ran for Attorney General and if he is backed by police unions. Yeah, well, what a fantastic question. Yeah. What a fantastic question. Because all of this that we're talking about, all of this stuff we're dealing with,

it's all an inside job. It's all, when you talk about defunding, shout out to Philip McHarris, shout out to Mark Lamont Hill, shout out to everybody who's talked about this. Shout out to no name. Shout to everyone who's talked about this and is out front on this.

When you talk about defunding, And when you talk about abolishing, the reason why you're having these conversations is because the billions and billions of dollars that are being essentially embezzled by these police departments, it's obvious that this isn't working. It's obvious that no one's safer, that there is no accountability, that there is no oversight, that there is absolutely zero increase in public safety in our current. system is the death of an American citizen who hadn't done anything. We got to do better than this. Yep. We do. All right.

So we have a new segment as I calm down and stop scaring my neighbors and stuff like that. I apologize. Your new neighbors. Your new neighbors. They don't know you like that. My new neighbors don't even know what's going on. It's like, you guys, they're going to call. Listen, just let you guys know.

I heard something. I think that there's a runaway Negro. There is an unruly nigger. that we just led into the building and he was screaming. Not sure he was screaming about, but I don't want to be telling you. So I'm sorry, I'll have to apologize everyone. But anyway, I will say this, though. I'm moving to this new place.

There's somebody who don't know how to park right down in the lower level of the parking thing. And I will ask you something. Should I, I don't know how to deal with this. So every time I pull my car in, right, this person is parked too far. And like the ass of their car, first of all, there's a little bit of a nice. master place. So like down there, it's just so funny me parking the 2010 Honda cross tour down there because

it's like a fucking car show down there, right? L.A. It's range rovers and the big binses and all of that stuff like that. The coal ass porch, one of my neighbors got a coal Porsche. They parked down there. So, but there's a Mercedes

and I got the 2010 trustee a dependable Honda cross tour and, you know, with the gas got missing. There's a neighbor that parks too far out. So I got to negotiate that every time I'm trying to get in and getting out is really hard. Do I rat? Leave a note.

Come on, Karen. You wanted to rat. So I'm sorry, which option is better? I'm asking, like, what do I, what, I mean. Leave an anonymous note. An anonymous note when I just started parking next to them? Wait, but is there somebody on the other side? Yeah, but they would, it wouldn't be a big deal.

for them because they don't have to go around the car. See, I have to go around the ass of the car. If it's that much of an issue, tell on them. Damn, I can't snitch, man. Okay, then I have to send out like a big memo about how to park your car. You know what I mean? That's the way to do it.

A community, your neighborhood, your building sounds like they give community updates. We got a portal. See? We got a portal. So I should just bring it up on a portal in like a slide passive aggressive type way. Yeah.

That's what your neighbors would do. That's definitely. No, that's not what they would do. They would come knock on the door. Hey, welcome to the neighborhood. I noticed you've got kind of a big automobile, and it's kind of hard for me to get out when I'm going to play squash. So, dude, Aces, if you could just pull in a little bit closer,

not leave the ass end of it. You know, because I know it could be tough. You know what I mean? You just got out here from Africa. Anyway. Wait, you talking like that just reminds me of something because something I did have to do this weekend. had you ever heard of Bill and Ted's excellent adventure?

Bill, what am I doing? Hey, this is directly to Bill. Bill, are you listening to this? Bill, Juliet, like, what am I doing? Like, what's up with this fucking podcast? Like, what am I doing? Like, what am I, like, seriously, seriously, in a real way? Bill, Chris, Sean, what are y'all doing to me?

Like, what am I doing? Who am I doing this with? Like, I'm sorry, can we have a movie podcast? Am I supposed to me? Have I ever heard of Bill and Ted's excellent? Excellent adventure? What's, you, are you trying, you did that shit on purpose?

Are you trying to fuck with me? No, is there something, wait, is there like a deep-rooted issue? Because I actually have a story behind it. You had never heard of the movie, Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. Let me tell you how much I did not know about it. I had to interview Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter this weekend.

And I'm talking to my agent and I'm like, Yeah, they're the damn is the movie. Bill and Ted faced the music. And he goes, you've never heard of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. And I was like, never heard of it in my life. And then I asked Brian and he was like, yeah, excellent adventure. I never heard of it in my life. But the way you were talking made me think of it.

And I thought, well, let me try Van. Let me ask Van if he's ever heard of it. Are you? Of Bill and Ted's excellent. This is fucking crazy. Like, this is really, how did you live? 30 some odd years and never not once hear of the movie? I don't know.

It came out in the 80s. It came out in 86. I was one. So, I mean, there you go with that. Okay. First of all, I don't think it was 86. I think it was later than that. Okay, 88, 89.

My bad. I was a toddler, is my point. My older sister wasn't watching it. At least I didn't hear her talk about it. Y'all, DM us if you, if you like me, had never heard this movie before. Hey, how about this? If you never heard of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, don't DM me.

I don't want to know y'all. Like, by the way, one of the... Do you love this movie? Of course I love the movie. San Demas, High School Football Rocks. Of course I love the movie. Of course I love it. What are you talking about?

Yeah, Bill and Ted's bogus journey. Not only did I see the second movie, but one time I was out here living in L.A. when we were kids, we lived, me and my family lived, in LA from about, I think, like, 90, that maybe like almost 92. And we were walking along the beach in Santa Monica, right?

And I saw this big thing that said Bill and Ted's bogus journey. And I was so excited, so excited because this sequel was coming out. They had Adam, Adam, at William Sadler, he played death. Oh, he's great. In this particular movie, Bill and Ted's bogus journey, Bill and Ted died. and then they played William Sallor over and over and over again. They have to play death in order to come back to life. Whatever was great.

Fucking, I love that movie. That was none, non, non, non, non, non, non, non, heinous. Love the movie. Okay, did you know there's a third one coming out then? Obviously, I knew that there was a third one coming out. I used to campaign on fucking TMZ to get the third one made. It's a big fucking deal. I ran in the sand all the way to where they were.

doing like promotional stuff for the movie because I think MTV was shooting something over there for like promotion of the film and I saw Keanu Reeves just as he was getting in his thing to leave and I waved he waved back fucking priceless childhood memory. Priceless childhood memory. It's a great movie. I thoroughly enjoyed it. You thoroughly enjoy what? The third movie. I've seen it. I didn't realize you were such a fan. Let me tell you why America. Let me tell you why America's fucked up. I'll tell you, like, seriously, like, really, all just aside, my blood pressure is going up.

I had no idea that this was going to hit a sore spot with you. I tell you why America's, I tell you why America's fucked up. America's fucked up because people like that get shit like that. See, it's people like, people that never heard a shit that don't give a fuck about shit, right? I'm sorry. Like, you don't care about the movie. It was work. I thought it was great.

I had to interview them. I had to interview them. So I was, so then I started reading up and I was like, wow, this is a, a three-quil? I didn't even realize that. Death was my favorite character in the whole movie. I'm funny as hell. I interviewed him too. I said, you were a scene stiller. You were the best part of the movie.

You'll enjoy it. I'm sorry. I had no idea. I didn't realize this was a sore subject. Well, it wasn't. I didn't even know that it was no. No, I don't want to, no. There's so many movies you'd be mad about you don't even want to start with me. So I will never ask again. But like, it's just weird. Some of the movies, I make fun of you,

you know what I mean? Like, you never seen some of it, whatever. But Bill Intent's Excellent Adventure, you never even heard of it? I never, I, I had never even heard of the movie. Wow. Not at all. Wow. But I enjoyed it and you will too.

I believe it comes out August 28th, guys. I'm not even gonna see it now because you fucked it up. You ruined it. You ruined the movie for me. I don't want to see it. No. No. No.

No. Believe it or not, guys, that was not the is this dumb segment, even though it could have been. It could have easily. Ben is this dumb segment. We have a new segment called Is This Dumb? This is the first time. That could have easily,

we should probably make that the segment. Is it fucking dumb that Rachel, a cultured and worldly woman, like has never heard of a staple of America and, like Americana that is Bill and Ted's excellent individual? Where do you think Keanu Reeves came from? You thought he just like materialized?

Like what was the, like, the Matrix, right? It's from the Matrix. He came from The Matrix. But to be fair, Brian had the same reaction as you. What? You've never heard of it? No, no.

I mean, no, no. You think that was this reaction. Where's Brian right now? Work. Yeah, quote-unquote, work. That's not where he's at. Where is that right now? He's consulting divorce attorneys is what he's doing.

Because he knows he can't live this way. He knows. Can't believe this. Anyway, all right, so is this dumb? This is actually a good one. A member of the Seattle Seahawks reportedly tried to sneak a woman into the team hotel by making it look like she played for the team. Now he no longer plays for the Seattle Seahawks.

His name is Keema Silverand. He is an undrafted rookie quarterback out of Oklahoma State. He was released Tuesday in a move that didn't gain very much notice. But then Thursday, everyone learned that he got released because he tried to sneak a girl into the team hotel. Now, NFL Network reported at first saying that the girl was caught on video trying to sneak a female visitor into the hotel. She had a Seahawks hoodie pulled over her head.

So team security personnel, they saw through it and they put a halt to all of it. Then they cut this guy. is this dumb? Absolutely. You lost your entire career. Mind you, you're already on the chopping block being an undrafted rookie.

You know what I mean? Like you don't have a lot of clout when it comes to your professional football career and you risk it all for a woman. Power of the, you already know. That's exactly what that was. He lost his whole career. for one night.

But just like you couldn't have been, you tried to sneak her in. You couldn't have been more. I don't know what you would have done. But just a sweatshirt, just a sweatshirt. That's all you did to try to sneak her in. You could have done better than that.

A back door. I don't know. Be careful. I ain't telling on myself if that's what you're saying. No, you're talking about sneaking in through the back door. Anyway, what, you still didn't get that joke.

Interesting. I understand the joke, man. Maybe I just didn't think the joke was funny. What do you think? What do you think I'm going to say about this? Well, I thought dumb, but apparently not now. Why is this not dumb? Why?

It's not dumb. Because? It's reckless. Okay. Reckless. Okay. I'll tell you why. It's reckless.

Reckless and not dumb. It's reckless because we are in COVID. So you can't try to sneak a lady into the personnel, okay, into the team hotel. Right. Because she might have that good, gaga, gangster, which is COVID. And then everybody else is like on the seahawks, all of that. You don't want, like, you don't want that, right? So it's reckless.

Can't say dumb, no. Why? Because we men, okay? And as men, we have a biological imperative to procreate. Right? It's something that we can't control. And the sooner that society comes to terms with this, the better. This kid, I don't think is married.

So if he was out there doing extra stuff, then that would be dumb. You know, you're putting your family in jeopardy, ruining a happy home, all of that stuff. But it's not dumb because it's coming from a place that he can't stop himself, Rachel. There are other ways to satisfy your desires. Okay. It's dumb because he lost his whole career. Yes. No.

It is. There are other ways to mitigate, you know, your desires. Fine. You've got a whole other 53 man roster of 52 other people who are getting it done and you can't. That's just a crazy thought to think of 53 guys in that hotel room. But anyway. More than that. If you're counting the person now.

Counting the staff. Right. But look, it's reckless, but just understand. Like, I could make a strong argument that he's only, he only has a shot of being in the NFL because of women. It's probably because. You know, Van, you should represent him on the appeal. He probably played football to impress girls, to get with more girls,

to have more ladies. Not to college. Not to provide for himself or family. No. If there were no women, if there were no women on earth, men would be completely happy living in abject poverty. There would be nothing. If there were no women on earth, let's be honest with you.

If there were no women on earth, men would be totally different. We would be sharers. We would share everything like. You would grow. I would grow like a corn stalk, stock of corn. And then I would look over at my brothers. I'd be like, hey, man, you come get some of this corn. But no, because we now have to compete.

because we only care about ladies. It's like, now, this is my corn. You got to grow a taller stock. You know, you can't come over here. I got my family over here telling you. So this same thing is probably what made him great. So I can't say dumb. It's not dumb.

All right? It's reckless. Now, it's dumb if he never gets another chance. If he never gets another chance, I'll come back to dumb. It's looking that way. It's looking that way. He's the main person who's going to be singing the theme song for Uncle Luke's campaign.

Because he's horny. Um, yeah, but yeah. Um, yeah. Kama, Kema, Kma, Silberan, Silverand, bro. Just, it's just training camp, dog. It's just a little bit of time, man. It's just training camp.

And by the way, is it against the rules for him to leave? It is? I think it's against the rules. It's against the rules to have a female there, period during training camp. Forget COVID. You can't even, you're not,

supposed to bring people in. Period. Saw that on hard knocks. Hmm. Hmm. All right. Yeah. All right. Well, look, we out.

Hopefully he gets another shot. Oh. Oh. Wait. Yes. Hopefully he gets another shot. I just want to let everybody know the DNC is starting now.

Every night from Monday to Thursday. Excellent speakers. Rising Stars. Maybe you'll get the answer to some of your questions you may have. Let's just build this excitement up. And what? particular speaker in general, we are going to discuss on the late week podcast about the merit of their speech and whether or not they should have spoke. We're going to let him speak first,

but then we're going to talk about this specific speaker who is an ex-president of the United States of America. There's been some controversy about whether or not he should be speaking at the DNC. All right, but we're going to save that for the late week podcast. I and Van Lathen, it is okay for you guys to take your thinking caps off, but never stop learning. What's up, guys? Like, we're starting the podcast over again. Bye, y'all. It's fair real.

That's Rachel. That's Rachel Lindsay. Bye.