Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay - Ryan Coogler’s Run-in and Reactions to Jussie Smollett’s Sentencing

Episode Date: March 11, 2022

Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay discuss director Ryan Coogler getting mistaken for a bank robber in Atlanta (20:30), before reacting to Kim Kardashian’s tone-deaf comments about work ethic (40:41). Plus, Jussie Smollett gets sentenced (1:21:44) and some recent Emmanuel Acho comments come under fire (1:29:27). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Trudy Joseph and Donnie Beacham Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? Higher learning is on. Is I Van Plated to June? And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay. You get a haircut, Van? You get a little haircut? Yeah, I got it.

I got to cut down. Cut down to a one. I'm to that stage of life now. It looks good. Got to get it cut down to a one. My barber, shout out to Trey Cuts. He was like, Van, I got to be honest with you. He had a heart to heart with you.

Yeah, he was like, we need to go to a one. And I was like, yeah, he's like, you got a good head of hair, but there's certain spots. And he was like, let's just go to a one. And that way, if I go to a one, I can, I can come back and restore the hairline and y'all will never know because it's too long. Is that what Trey Cuts told you? I'm not going to divulge the secrets of what Trey Cuts and I discuss in terms of my, because when I come back with the head, you know how like some ladies beat the charge

on Botox? They don't wait until it gets. to be, you know, the whole fucking, yeah. Preventative measures, yes. Because it sounds like y'all have a game plan for your hairline. And he has one. You put, you started already. Step one.

Yeah. Step one. Look, I see these people like a Denzel Washington. And I think to myself, wow, what a gray head of hair. But then I wonder, is he? We don't know. That's his hair. Yeah, it probably is.

because he went bald for the equalizer and then it came back. Tom Cruise, I'm not so sure about the. The Tom Cruise is the John Travolta's. We know John Travolta. Matthew McConaughey's been a topic of conversation as of late. About the hair, really?

He's saying that it's been all natural. He says he uses something that has had because his hair is noticeably different than it has been in the last couple of years. Yeah. Why would God take the hair of a Matthew McConaughey? Why are we just singling him out? Why would God take the hair of a Van Laithen?

Well, that's different. See, I'm not a Matthew McConaughey, right? My hair is probably dating because I have all of these putrid thoughts. Wow. We sure honest. And I'm like, you know, I got so much anxiety that my hair is like, yo, we got to get away from this thing. Is that what it's saying?

Yeah. But back to him, McConaughey is just sitting around, all right, all right, all right. Like, why would God take his hair? I'll take his hair. Remember the Fresh Prince episode where Jasmine Guys on? And she and Will are going at it, trading Jabs. And she's like, that ain't a fade on your head. That's your hair running away from your face.

Do you remember that? I do remember that. Fresh Prince, Bel Air ain't like that anymore. It's draw. It's not. It's very dark. There would be no laugh track after that. There will be no laugh track.

I can't get into it. Have you watched it? I have. It's a lot. I've only seen the first episode. And so this is not that it's not good because it is good, but I think sometimes they should take a temperature. Well, they wouldn't never, sometimes these just come out the wrong time.

With everything going on, you think I want to turn on sad Will Smith for fucking fun? I need happy Will Smith. I need happy Will. You know, it's like weird. It's like if that would have came out in 2016, 2017, where 2015, well, really, more like 2014. 2014, we thought we were fucking having a great time.

No. Obama was in office? Why? Why not? 2014? Obama was in office? They told us racism was over. All this stuff was happening.

We were like, oh, shit. He'd been in office for six years. I think at that point, people were a little disinterested. They went and had a sick feeling they had. You were what? Still dunked? Boom.

Wow. Bang. Bannoo. I think for the people who grew up on Fresh Prince, the drama version of it is a little harder to accept and get used to. I heard give it until episode three and it really like I'll get into it. But Carlton is a tough watch, which means he's playing his part because I can't stand. He's doing well. Came to the boxing gym a couple of days ago.

You saw him? Came to the boxing gym. I wanted to punch his lights out. Yeah, I would have asked. Shout out to Demetrius. Very nice kid. Nice kid. It was in the boxing gym.

I said, I want to punch your mouth. How about that? You treat Will terribly coquette. I want to punch your face apart. Giving things away. Have ever met someone that was like doing a fictional character and then you saw them but you couldn't get past a fictional character that they played? You asked me, is there somebody like that?

Yeah, for you. I'm sure there is. Right. I just can't think of it right now. You know what? Drew Sador. And I actually told her that. I have a hard time getting past what she did to Melody and Derwin's relationship in the game.

I never watched that show. Wow. Yeah. You have no idea what you're missing. That's a funny show. I watched it at the beginning. Wendy Raquel Robinson is just amazing. Sunflowers, the whole beans.

Wow, sunbeams. Sunbeams. I watched it at the beginning. But I found myself becoming, this is what I have a problem with. shows that are shows that have sports in them it's hard for me sometimes because

I know that these diggers don't look like how these guys look that play these sports it's like it's hard for me to watch you because they're not big and tall just because I know like shout out to Spencer Pasinger

who is my man who's a producer on the All-American who is it's his story Spencer Pasinger shot at the Pittsburgh Pregister. All-American is great, except for the fact that the football in All-American sometimes can be fucked up.

And that show is so good that I'm still into it. I love that shit. But like other shows, sometimes, like, Derwin ain't getting no... Derwin ain't not. It's not having it for a girl. And I hope my thought, I thought warriors watch both these shows so they can weigh in.

The show isn't as much about their play on the field as it is off the field. So I'm not sizing them up and saying, oh, like, Derwin really wouldn't be this star wide receiver or Malik wouldn't be this quarterback based on his size and stature. I'm not looking at that because that's how the show isn't about. They rarely show them. They show them coming off the field after games.

They show them in the locker room. That's what they do. Way to go. We won. It's cool. They don't do that. That show came back, too, the game. As a drama.

As a drama. Rebooted, making a drama. I hope that they take a drama and reboot it as a comedy. That's what they really should do. Okay, but which drama? Like, I could never cease. Well, I was about to say, No, I was about to say Succession.

I'm doing shows, we're doing TV shows, that movie. But there are funny parts in Succession. Secession is funny as hell. But it's a drama. But it's a drama. That's what she categorize. Precious. Precious boys in the hood.

Those are movies. You want to see me. Bring boys in the hood to TV as a comedy, but leave the death in there. Just leave it in there. It's nothing funnier than a black funeral. I just saw a black funeral. I just saw a black funeral literally where I'm going to show you the video, Rachel,

where the person was laying in the casket and they did a choreographed dance routine. In front of they, some of the people, like they was cutting up and twerking in front of the casket. at the funeral. We know we, we get it. Was this like a joke? If you told me it was praise dancing, I could maybe accept it.

Can you shake your ass doing praise dancing now? No. That's how I, you know I used to praise dancing. You did. Wow. I'm gonna send you a video. You were really in the church,

like you were doing the church clap where you bend at the wrist and you clap like that. Like the church clap, what were you doing with the praise dancing? Okay, I don't know what that is. That wasn't a church clap. That wasn't a church clap.

part of the dance for two. That is what y'all do. What did y'all do? What did y'all do? You know, like some of these. Terrible. No.

Terrible. Terrible. It was really good. Were you one of the Christian side hug people? No. Like, you know, up there, give me a positive message. Yo, see, let me tell you. I'm a two-arm front hug person.

Let me tell you why the Christian side-hug people, if you guys, if you guys have never seen this video. We might have talked about it on the podcast before about people telling you not to hug. This is an OV. Y'all, y'all heard of give me that Christian side hug. It's like, don't hug. Don't line up your genitals when you hug because that's of the devil, right?

You know what I mean? That's inappropriate, is what they said in the video. And they were like, give me that Christian side hug. Wait, there's a video? Yo, Donnie. I need you to find the Christian side hug video right now. and play a little bit of the song that they were singing for Rachel. Okay, no.

Now, you know, it's a rap song called, Give Me that Christian Side Hug. I thought you were being funny. Play it. Donnie, share the sound real quick. Play the Christian side hug. Play it. Play it. Play it.

With Christ, love. Give me that Christian side hug. These are the EG rules. So pay attention. It's essential. This ain't no front hugs on. You ain't that fly you with my going stop. And listen.

No. Unhugs and no kissing I ain't that's yet to call your mama You'll be riding home to coma I got my crew You ain't got nothing Like the answer Donnie you've heard of

You ain't no rapper Enough, enough You ain't enough Donnie, I've heard enough Who's the artist? Who's the artist? I can't remember the name of them Donnie knows he's that the song

Like the Jesus kids or something Donnie you've heard of the Christian side hug before haven't you? Oh man, you put me on to something new now I gotta download this to my life Is that true? I knew of the Christian side hug. I never knew that it had become a song.

I never knew that there were lyrics. There was a beat. There's chore-grab dance moves as well. Sometimes I wonder if I don't have a life or if you guys, I can't believe I heard Christian sidehug, but forget about that. Let me tell you why the Christian sidehug kids are doing harm to Christianity, right? How does happen? I'm in a G-chat with my brother.

all of his atheist friends. And I made fun of me for being a Christian. This is what atheists do. They're not happy enough with the fact. And by the way, I'm not dissing the atheists. But I would sometimes just say to them, hey, you know, believe what you believe. I would sometimes say to them, hey, just let me, let me live my life and believe in God. It's okay, you know.

But when something like the Christian side hug becomes a thing, it's a free for all. I then become the butt of all of the jokes. Like, man, these your people. And it's like being that corny and that earnest about something that has no bearing on anything, they have no idea how much they hurt us. Heard us. It's terrible. You can't defend that.

There's no comeback to that. All you can do is just sit there and take it. I mean, that's embarrassing. It's one thing to talk about it. It's another thing to try to make it a thing. And the fact, Johnny, what do the choreograph moves look like? Or, Van, you sound like. Sound like you were hit that choreo.

So they jump up and then they jump to the side. They jump up and then they jump to the side. Like a yule. Kind of. Donnie, bring it to me. Give it back, Donnie. Give me that shit. Oh.

Oh. Hey. Inappropriate. Come on. Oh. Oh, what I do? Give me that Christian side. That Christian side hook.

I'm a rough rider. Filled up with Christ's love, man. No. Stop. I'm a rough rider. Trudy. You never heard the Christian side hook? Never in my life, ever.

And I went to a Christian school. I ain't heard of this. I mean, I was deep in it, and I have never heard this. Also, you guys are younger than me? Is it DC talk? No, it's not DC talk. This is like some, I think this was like some group at some church. I don't know if this was a real Christian rap group.

Because I feel like you're a little older than me, but we're still, like we both knew about the power team. You know what I'm saying? I know, but this was, this wasn't that at that time, though. This is like 2009, 2010. So you would have still been actually doing real things for your life. Oh, I had already gone to college. I was lost.

Yeah. Yeah, Christian sidehood. Anyway. What else do you be? been doing this week, Rachel? What's been going on? Man, it's been a, it's been a busy, busy week. I feel like it's a long week. I'm like this on Thursday, Friday when y'all are listening to this. It's just all I've been doing is working, working, working, working. It's one of those

weeks where it doesn't matter what kind of dent I make in my to-do list. I still am drowning. It's one of those. You know what? I have all next week off. You do. So, you know, I'm just- No extra. No extra. I'm going to go to Houston. I'm going to see my grandma and some family. It's amazing. Ring her verse fans, not too pleased with you. None too pleased with Rachel Lindsay. What they say. Y'all, no, no, no. They're supposed to be the nice ones. They are nice. So what's the problem? Look, there's some talk that you said that all we do is think about fake

shit and we live in the fake world. You do. None of that shit is real. Why y'all mad at me? None of the stuff you talk about is real. That's not true. It's a fact. It's not true at all. Wait, did your, your audience say this or your co-host? Well, the co-host didn't know about it, but. Oh, so you brought this to their.

No, no, no, no, no. I didn't bring, we didn't talk about it. No, some people that listen to the podcast, it's like, why we got to be fake. As racial, why we got to be fake. They're not fake. Look, here's the thing. Batman is fake, but the Batman movie is real.

What? So. No. Wait. What you mean? It's real. Batman is not a Batman is a fictitious story.

Correct. But the actual movie is an actual real feature film. Correct. So we're talking, so we're talking about something real. But it's based off a

fictitious person, story, characters, but it still is a real thing. All of this stuff is real. This is our real. real lives, Rachel.

These are hobbies. These are hobbies. These are hobbies. And I, look, you don't got copper all worked up. It's been a while. It's been a while since he's been worked up. He's not trying to hear it. Copper.

Copper knows I'm right. Copper knows I'm right. I ain't got nothing against the Ring of Verse fans. You know what I mean? I just wanted, I just want to, I just want to Van to know where his loyalty lies, okay? Where? Where?

What? Talk about the Reddit? No. Oh, higher learning. Oh, higher learning is. I love the Thought Warriors. It's just that one group of Thought Warriors. Listen, the Reddit was, I saw the Reddit.

I saw the Reddit this week. And I got to say. Oh, you went to the Reddit? Let me just say something. I saw the Reddit this week. And I've been defending y'all like crazy. And then I saw one of the subs. And I said, you've got to be kidding me.

You know what I mean? Like, now you don't piss me off. And I know it's not everybody and I'm not going to hold the whole thought. I'm not going to generalize the entire Thought Warriors community. But I understand Vance frustration. It's like, we are not perfect. We don't even try to be. We put our faults,

our emotions, you know what I mean? Our frustrations all out on this podcast and you're going to take it and pick apart. We are going to make some mistakes. We don't get it right. And we come on. I got to go see it now. And we come on this podcast and we say when we're wrong. I get that. But to put a whole

post over criticizing us, I'm at the point where I'm like, for that one person, just walk away. When we make a mistake, we'll own it. And I'm a person who loves constructive criticism. Lord knows I had dealt with it every day in the Lindsay household. I love it because it only makes us better. That was different in a Lindsay household. But constructive criticism, I truly feel like only makes you better.

But when you're out to bash and to nitpick, then it's just like, you know what? Go, find another podcast. I didn't even see it. even know what you're talking about. Don't go look at it. I'm not going back because I've been, I can't go back. I can't go back. But God damn it. I want to see it. You know, piss me off. How did you see it? Somebody sent it to you?

No, I'm on Reddit. I'm on Reddit. And I almost respond. I almost responded, but I want to keep it a space, a community, but it's just like you guys, you know, like bring something to the table when we do something wrong, bring questions, bring thought-provoking topics.

We love that. But don't, don't bash us. in a way that it's just, it doesn't even make any sense. This is, this is too much. What are you doing Saturday? Organizing and packing. Would you be down for game night?

I'm thinking about having a game night. Only the thing is. Yes. Say no more. Okay. But here's the deal though. And this is the question. I don't know which games to have at game night.

Taboo. Taboo. I'll bring it. You'll bring taboo. remember this is going to be me, you, and the Midnight Boys. So are these taboo type biggest? Oh, so I'm coming in hot. Was my name in their mouth?

No. They didn't say this. I love how you just dropped your shit on them. No, they never said nothing. I've met the Midnight Boys. Yeah, you met the Midnight Boys. So what are this game night, two-ball game? So Taboo is one.

But it's not like Monopoly, right? Monopoly's not a good one. No, no, no. Monopoly is not a good one. You need, like, cards against humanity. A lot of people like, apples to apples. I don't really understand that game.

I think I played it once. You know what? Thought Warriors give us some more, but taboo is for sure. That's competitive. We're going to split up in teams. Oh, what about heads up?

Okay. You ever play that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Heads up. We played that one in it. We played that. We played that.

Okay, so we'll do taboo and heads up. And then we're just going to get fucked up. I love a good. Gosh, I don't need this kind of distraction. But I'm just going to drink. Drink. Drink. Drink.

I'm just going to drink. Drink. I've been working out so hard. might drink have a little pizza. Great. So we're hosting it at your place? It's coming in at my place. Boz was going to be there.

I'll get party hats for everyone like we did the last time. I don't know why I'm obsessed with the party hats. It's a thing. I was wearing it down the hall. Somebody was like, happy birthday. And you know what I said? Thank you. Thank you.

Yeah. Just you come in. That way, I feel like the party hat, when you have the little party hat, nobody can opt out. We all look so dumb with the party hats on that we have no choice but to have a good time. All right. Is copper in hiding? Huh?

Of course. We got to post a picture of copper and Bozeman together when they finally met. We got to push. Copper is the coolest dog. Copper was just hanging out. Like he actually brought Bozeman's anxiety level down because Bozeman could go crazy. But copper was being cool. So Bozeman was being cool.

Bozeman was being cool. All right. Got a lot of very, very interesting topics today. Slam show. Slams show. We're going to come. We're going to take a break. Come back.

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Ryan Coogler, Black Panther Director, also the director of Fruitvale Station, also director of Creed 1. Bank of America has apologized to Ryan Coogler after he was assumed to be a bank robber and briefly handcuffed by the police. He was trying to withdraw money from a Bank of America branch in January. This is what happened in case you guys don't know, but I know that you do. Cougler handed a teller a withdrawal slip on January 7th asking for $12,000 with a note on the back saying be discreet when handing him the cash. This is according to a police report.

The teller assumed or thought that there was some potential danger that maybe Ryan Cougler was attempting to rob the bank. She called 911. or, excuse me, went to the manager, and then the manager make the decision, then we're going to call 911. This is the 911 call. So I just told my manager I didn't feel comfortable, so he told me to call police why he just saw. What is the, what is on the note, you know?

It just says I want to redar to $1,000. Just be discreet. Is this an actual? customer or are they trying to rob the name? They had a debit card and he inserted it. He gave me a California ID, but I was like, okay, I was like, how do you, I was like, how do you want to catch that? And he, like, just look at the note.

And he had no weapons, correct? Not that I know of. He just has on black sunscreen shades and a black, a black hat. Is he a black male, white male? He's a black male. And every time I ask him like a question, he's like, look at the note. But he inserted his debit card, and then I asked for his ID. He handed me his ID as a California ID.

But I didn't look at his name because I'm just, like, so shook up. Like, I don't know what he's trying to do. So I just told him, give me one moment. You know, I have to get my managers. Okay, so none of his information was even verified. Okay. He might just want to be discreet, but I have police and around. Okay, there were other people involved with this.

Of course, there was a driver because right who was driven in. And the driver told the cops when the cops got there that Mr. Cougler was a movie producer that he was waiting for Mr. Coole while he was making a transaction outside the bank. A woman who was a passenger gave the same information. The cops detained the driver. the passenger as well, put them in a patrol car.

They then removed Mr. Cougler from bank and handcuffs. They determined he wasn't a bank robber. Okay. So there's two more pieces of video of audio here. Ryan Coogler, one is Ryan Cooleger talking to police after his release. The other one is the detainment audio itself.

There's also video of the moment that the cops come in and descend upon Ryan Cooleur. He looks absolutely terrified, as he would have in that type of situation. That is pretty much, I think, oh, by the way, just so everyone knows, the bank teller in this situation is black, a black pregnant lady. Most of the employees in this branch of Bank of America, which is in Atlanta, are black.

So a lot of people said that that's very key to understanding this in terms of the racial dynamics here. But that's pretty much the whole story. Rachel, what do you think? Well, first of all, we should also say that this happened to January, which is actually getting the details of what happened now two months later. I am glad that the information came out in totality the way that it did. Because when I initially heard it, there was no information about that he provided his debit card and he provided his identification. But that came out shortly after. First of all, I'm going to go ahead and give my unexpected ally of

a week early to the 911 operator, even though I'm pretty sure she was a black woman. I'm just going to go ahead just to give it out to the whole system because I think that 911 call is so key in all of this. If you thought that this was a real bank robbery, the teller didn't sound distress, she didn't sound alarm, she didn't sound agitated, it was just kind of like, yeah, so this man is in here acting very weird. So my, because I felt uncomfortable, my manager told me to call you. Even the 911 operator sounds doubtful. Like, well, he ain't got any weapons. Did he show identification? Okay, well, it sounds like he just wanted to be discreet, but I'm going to go ahead and do my job and follow through and the police are en route. This scene, this whole situation is entirely upsetting. And I think even more

so because it does involve black people, black people judging other black people. This is completely unnecessary. It is actually, and for the people that I know this is a split, like on Twitter, there was some back and forth as to some people are on the side of the teller and the bank and the other people are on the side of Ryan Kugler. But the thing is, we're living in very different times, but even if we weren't, it is absolutely normal for people to not want to shout through a thick glass, bulletproof glass, the amount of money that they want to take out. That is normal to write it on a piece of paper, pass it through, and then, then ask for you to count the money separately in a private place so that people won't follow you

out and know the amount of money that you took out. If this whole situation would have been different for me, if Ryan was passed the note and refused to do anything else, said no words, provided no debit card, provided no pen, provided no identification. That was not the case. He was fully identified himself and said exactly what he wanted. That's what you do when you walk into a bank and you talk to a teller. And the fact that this situation was exaggerated, the fact that it was done by a black woman, in my opinion, makes it even worse. And it shows that there are these preconceived notions and these implicit bias that we have even within our own culture. It's so upsetting. I hate that Ryan went through this. And I'm happy that he is safe, not just him, but the driver and the female passenger

in that car as well. Because this situation could have. have really been a completely different story because we've seen it happen time and time again. Ryan did everything right. He did everything that he was supposed to do and he was still judged and certain biases were placed, bias were placed on him by his very own people.

It's so upsetting. So there was a situation here in LA not too long ago. It was a guy named Bootleg Keff. But let Kev is a radio Why are you laughing at the man's name? Bootleg Kev is the name. Shout out to Bootle Kev.

Bullet Kev has a very popular podcast right now. If you're interested in goings-on and West Coast hip-hop culture, check out the Boolet Kev podcast is great and it's growing. Also used to do a radio show with DJ Head. Shout out to DJ Head as well. There was a situation in the last year, I think it was, where Bulek Kiv went to the bank in Burbank, Los Angeles.

If you guys don't know about Burbank, Burbank is a nice low-crime area. Burbank is a cool place to go. Like you shouldn't have that many problems in Burbank, right? Yeah, I work there. I go there every day. Burbank, okay, so Burbank, cool place, right? Not really going down to Burbank. Goes there, takes out $10,000.

Somebody watches him. at the bank. Then he walks outside. They follow him. He makes another stop. They get out. They rob him. They take his money.

They take his laptop. They take all of his stuff. It was a particular phenomenon of watching people outside the bank. Descending upon them and taking the money that they've just gotten. It's easy. It's like robbing season all over the place. It's bad out there. And Atlanta, to be honest with you, was one of the places where, let's be honest,

it goes down in the ATIL. Not trying to cast any Spurses on Atlanta. Don't want T.I. Killer Mike telling me about how great the city is. I know that Atlanta is a great place. But there are wolves in Atlanta and they will do their wolf motherfucking shit. Especially in the times that we're talking about right now. I think it's so interesting. And I said this on Instagram.

It just epitomizes what it's like to be a black man sometimes. Now, you think to yourself, hey, it's really. It's irresponsible for me to walk in there, get $12,000 out, especially when there are two other people in the car, right? Because the driver's in the car and then the passages in the car. It's irresponsible for me to get this money out, walk out, oh shit, we're breaking bread, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and be out there about it. So I want to be as discreet as possible. I don't want to even say to anyone. He said the note says, don't even do the money counter thing over here.

Like, don't like do it somewhere else and just bring the money out to me. look guys I understand that there's an obvious racial element that's subtracted from this situation because of the fact

that the teller was black and Ryan Cougar's black and the people that work in the bank of black I'm not even talking about that I'm talking about not everything every sort of situation that we're in is the man sitting behind the desk

pushing buttons at us making sure that we die. It's not always that cut, dry, and that's straightforward. This is a situation to where, who knows if Ryan Coogler is in a similar situation, if he's white, he walks into that bank and has a lady that letter. But even if he is, he's certainly, in my opinion, in a much, much more dangerous situation once the cops get there, because he's black. Right.

So in this situation, there is a no-win situation for everyone involved. unless one thing happens. Unless the people at the bank just do their job. And their job is to look at a situation and be able to ascertain whether or not there's an actual danger or robbery taking place. I don't know how many bank robbers in the history of bank robbery have given their debit cards and their identification to the bank teller. I'm sorry to say this because this is a moment. black lady. That blank teller is incompetent.

She's incompetent. And it's difficult if she were, I'm going to be straight up honest with you. If she were white, if it were a white man or a white woman, I'd be calling for their head right now. The only reason why I'm not, the only reason why I think suspension

and extra training is because I don't want to see a black woman lose her job. But she should definitely be suspended or fired and the manager in that particular branch should actually have to go through some additional training as well. The whole situation is just dumb. And I got to say something else.

Everybody here that's saying don't slip a note, don't pass a note, don't do this, don't do that. I understand that some of you guys are saying, hey, just make sure that you don't put anybody in a situation where they feel threatened. I understand that's what some of you mean. But some of y'all are just white man's niggas. Straight up.

I'm going to be honest with you. Some of y'all are just white man's niggas. when you talk about living in a society, it doesn't mean do everything to make sure somebody knows. It just means do what you're supposed to do. Right. Like was he supposed to start taking off his clothes and letting people know that he didn't have a weapon on him?

Like, how far does it go? Like, my whole thing is, I understand that some people always want to find fault and what we did, and there's some sort of future gene inside of your brain that makes you want to believe that every single thing that happens to a nigger is because he deserved it.

But you're supposed to be able to go. go in the bank, like withdraw money, and if you don't want to talk to the teller, I have to talk to the teller. It's just so many failings on all of this. And we just don't have a good enough relationship with the cops for me to be okay

with the cops coming out, cuffing a man when they're not supposed to. A black man. It's nuts. I actually think, I actually disagree with you and what should happen to her because she thought a situation was suspicious. even though she's wrong for that,

and she went to her manager, her superior. That's where the problem, that's where he's supposed to have the expertise to figure out the situation. He's in a higher position. He has more training. He has more experience. He should have asked the particular questions.

He should be fired. Hands down, he should be fired. Well, I don't see how you could divorce. Because he's the one who told her. Probability. No, no, no. I'm not saying. that she's not wrong. I'm just saying she felt a certain way, not justifying it because I've

already given my peace on that. She went to her higher up. At that point, I feel like it was her higher up's responsibility to say, let me handle the situation. Did he give you his ID? Did he get, let me look at the computer. Let me look at his account. Oh, that's him. I'm looking at his identification. He has the money. This has happened before. It is not abnormal, you guys. I was having this conversation at work with a white older cameraman, Mel, who said, people do this all the time. He said he started doing it because he saw other people in the bank. He said, it's awkward to shout the amount of money that you want withdrawn. It is normal to write it down on a piece of paper and pass it through. So you're not yelling it. Like, we were having this conversation. It's not

abnormal. So to me, that is where the manager with his knowledge and expertise steps in and says, you know what, you feel a certain way, step to the side, let me handle this situation. He told her instead to call 911. Well, no, he told her if she felt threatened to call 911. But she calls 911. Rather than diminishing the situation. Like, he could have handled this. I get it, but I don't feel like we can pass the buck here.

I really don't. I really don't feel like we can pass the buck here. Like, I know that people, we cannot pass the buck here. even as she explains it, it's infuriating to listen to her explain it to the 911 operator. Like, yes, he gave me his debit card. Yes, he gave me his California ID.

Like, yes, he did all of these things. Even I'm looking at what's written, she's reading what's on the back of the note. Right. Like, you guys, first of all, we can't act like there's not some sort of, that just because you're black, you might not have internalized

anti-black sentiment inside of you, right? So for me, I don't understand how she gets divorced of consequence in this situation at all. So she is a subordinate to her manager, manager of that bank. There's no way that the way she described that situation to that 911 operator,

she did not describe it in the same way to that manager. That manager at that point, she'd have been asking the same questions that that 911 operator and said, you know what, let me handle this situation. To me, it sounds like for him to be like, you know what, if you feel uncomfortable, call 911.

That sounds very dismissive. That sounds like somebody who was not in control and trying to handle the situation. Or maybe the manager was scared as well, right? If somebody comes over to you, hold on the manager call. Like, it's just, there's fault on both sides. I'm not saying there's not fault on her side.

I'm just saying the higher responsibility to me belongs to the superior because he got involved. Sure, but like in that situation, if you walk over to your manager, so if we're playing the card that like you're scared, so because you're scared that in some sort of way, I'm not saying that you're necessarily saying this, but if we're saying that fear is sort of the get out of jail free card here, right? Well, if she walks over to the manager and the manager has any suspicion that there could be a bank robbery taking place, the manager is not going to be too keen about walking back over to the booth

and standing in front of somebody who might have a gun on them, who might be dangerous, are violent. And so the manager is going to not being in this situation. I think the manager is wrong too, but the manager being in the situation is going to be like, yo, look, if you think that the bank is being robbed, we need to call the police because if the manager goes back over there and he or she is, I guess it's a man and he's wrong

and the blicky gets pulled on him. Now, his life is in danger, right? So for me, I'm looking at that situation and I'm like, everybody failed. Everybody needs to be dealt with and everybody needs to be at the least, like have a little time off to go get some retraining on this situation. Correct. And I'm just got to keep it gangster. But my original,

your original answer was in regards to her. And my response was, this is a person who has more knowledge and experience than is supposed to be the expert in the situation. This is a type person who can step in and say, what are the facts? Okay, well, that is actually normal. Or, you know, this has happened before.

Oh, they provided. identification of pen and their debit card. So I was just, my response is more into, it's not just her. Her superior also needs, if not the same, even more responsibility in the way that he handled this situation. Because she went to him because she was concerned and for advice. And his response was, call 911. Like, he didn't handle it right at all.

I did. I know. I know. Agree to disagree. sure. We both say it was a bad situation. We can we can parse out who should be whatever. But look, you guys, it's tough to say that consequences should be like dealt out to one of somebody in the community.

It's tough to say. And obviously you don't want a little black baby being born to a woman that doesn't have a job. I know. But you, y'all, you know, we at these jobs. you know what I'm saying this is not my bank this is not Vans Bank well that I just started

walking to Vans Bank which would be a lit bank we give you a fit to Hennessy with every account that you open on now this is the Bank of America this is the bank it's been around for a long time there should be standards and stuff there

it's not to say that banking black means that this should be allowed to happen either because fantastic black banks everywhere maybe we should start thinking about some of those as well but I'm just saying got to be better than this. And sometimes we should be able to tell each other in the community when we need to be better.

Sure, sure. And my question is, thankfully, Ryan Cougler lived to tell this story. If he had not, would your opinion change on the way that she handled the situation? That's what people need to be at. Not you.

That's a rhetorical. That's a question people need to be asking themselves. Like, I think it's easy to say, oh, you know, like feel sorry for her and defend her because he lived to tell his story. had he not because of her actions, would you have a different response? That's the question people need to be asking themselves.

All right. Kim, Kardashian has a message for you guys, you lazy punk motherfuckers. She's sick of your fucking shit. She's sick of your shit. Kim Kardashian did an interview with Variety. They talked to her about being a mogul. She is a mogul.

She is a lot of stupid businesses. Very, very successful. This is what Kim Kardashian had to say to all the women. women out there who want to be just like her. I have the best advice for women in business. Get your fucking ass up and work. It seems like nobody wants to work these days. That's so true.

You have to surround yourself with people that want to work. Have a good work environment where everyone loves what they do because you have one life. No toxic work environments and show up and do the work. Do it. Do it. You lazy bitches. I can't believe y'all. I'm with him.

Man, I'm not going to entertain them. You know what's so sad about this situation is that if you watch the video, you have to watch the video. Don't listen to the audio. You've got to see her say it because you can tell. If you watch the full video, the question was proposed and actually Chloe answered it first. And she had a beautiful answer about do things that you're passionate about because you're going to put more effort into it.

You're going to meet, you're going to love what it is that you're doing. You're going to believe in it because the passion was there. It was a nice answer. And then you see Kim kind of shift her body language and say, actually, you know what? And you can tell she wanted to have this badass girl boss moment and say something that she thought was so profound. And she failed. What was supposed to be a very positive interview, highlighted. this new show, this new air for the Kardashians,

now turned out to be somewhat of a joke. As people are like, Kim, it's very tone-deaf, what you said, you are extremely disconnected from what's happening in society, and actually what you said makes no sense. It also shows me that maybe the reign of the Kardashians might be coming to an end. Because people are no longer willing to accept, if she had said that pre-pandemic, she said that years ago,

I think people would have been like, yeah, get up and do it. But now with what's happened over the last two plus years where people are drowning in debt, people have had to make choices between child care and health care and their jobs, people are overwhelmed by working long hours for low pay. It just shows how disconnected you are in the sense that people are working grocery store jobs, you know what I mean? Retail grocery store

Retail doing whatever they can Three plus jobs to make Fuel City tacos to make ends meet To provide for their families And you're over here saying You know what actually you need to do Is just get the fuck up and work As if it's just that simple

And I and I will say this Because I'm not going to totally bash camp I think that what her point was Is that she was trying to say That a lot of people we live in in a society where there is a sector where people feel like things should just be given to them, where people, you know, want things to come easy for them. A lot of people talk about this with Jin Z.

But the way she said it, the timing she said it, it just fell. It was completely wrong. And what she was trying to come across, the way she was trying to come across, did not come across the way she wanted to. It's true. But you agree. So, you know, go ahead. Defender.

I do. I do. Well, look, I might be going to talk about Kim Kardashian. I'm going to do what I do best. I'm going to make this about me. Oh. Okay. Yeah.

So look, Kim Kardashian came across as incredibly self-important in that clip, right? And that's partly my fault. Oh. It's probably my fault. Probably my fault. It would be hypocritical for me to criticize Kim Kardashian, the Kardashian brand, and its lofty place in pop culture. without recognizing that for nine years of my life, I was part of making sure that there was maximum exposure

on every little thing that they were doing. You're right. On every little peccadillo that was happening in their lives, of every financial transaction, of every, hey, Kim Kardashian wants to be a lawyer. And Kim Kardashian wants to do this. And it was part of my job for a long time to continue to milk the golden calf.

They were golden calf. You can't milk a calf though. Is it a calf a male or is it just a baby cow? It's just a baby. It's a baby. You can't milk the calf. But it was to milk the golden cow that is the Kardashians. Okay.

Look, that's an elephant. But you thought it was a golden cat. I thought it was a golden calf before. All right. And therein to me lies the real lesson. here. People are as important as we tell them that they are. Now, if I told you the real story of how Kim Kardashian got on, like, if I told you the real story that everybody knows, by the way, of how Kim Kardashian got on, like, Kim Kardashian had stuff on her past. She had a legal issue with

Brandy where Brandy thought she ripped her off for a whole bunch of money. Like a lot of time for a lot of people in the industry, that would be it, right? But obviously she was born. with the silver spoon. And even if her spoon wasn't that silver, like, let's face it, part of Kim Kardashian's rise to prominence and ride her next level of celebrity had to do with something that a lot of people wouldn't want coming out about them. I'm not going to shame her for any of those situations. But what I'm telling you is the thing about Kim Kardashian that I most admire is she's taking

a perception about herself, thrown it to the back of her mind, and continue to. to move forward in her life trying to make rules for herself. But that does not make her important enough to tell the working people of America that they have to work harder. Are there lazy people out there? Absolutely there are. But there is this false idea that the fucking best people are the hardest working people and the lazier people are the ones that are dragging down.

If you haven't realized after the pandemic that that's a lie, then you really are a fucking dunderhead. Then you really are. As these people who worked their fucking asses off, right? When we were depressed because we couldn't go to bars, people who worked a worked shift after shift after shift literally putting their lives on the line so that the entirety of us could have some semblance. some semblance of normalcy. Even if you were thinking about saying that in the situation that Kim Kardashian has been to where we have given her this lofty height,

this lofty purse for no reason. Kim, just win. Take your winnings and go. We don't need to know how you did it. We know how you did it. I'm not saying you don't, I'm not saying... You're not saying she doesn't work hard. I'm not saying she doesn't work hard.

work hard at all. I'm saying she had to work a lot less than a lot of other people that didn't fucking go to Buckley that weren't friends with Paris Hilton, that didn't have their Cobble tapes come out and make them $100 million. That didn't get hitched to a lot of things, a lot of stuff. Like Kim Kardashian's worth ethic has made her a lot of money, but her name has to and her situation has too. And I guess I just feel like she's perpetuating this dangerous narrative. It's like Kim, who do you, what are you even basing this on? Who are you even looking at that you're like, you know what? You don't work and that's why you're in the situation that you're in. And I just feel like there's this disconnect. Oh, I think I know who she's basing it on. Oh.

There are people like that, you know, out here to L.A. streets. Who? You know, like, you know, you'd be people, you know. And it's like, you all want to be an actress. I'm like, Kim ain't even those people. Kim ain't even those people. So what are you reading? What are you reading?

What are you, who are you surrounding yourself if you're not? And it's just this disconnect of people. The haves and the have-nots where you think the have-nots don't have it because they aren't working hard and they're being lazy. You know what I mean? Like it's, I just think it's a dangerous narrative to put out there when you really have no basis

or evidence out there to say that. And then I do know why you feel like. Like you can say that when the people you're surrounding yourself would back you up. And that clip you guys just heard, Kim said what she said. And then you immediately hear Courtney say, that is so true. Based on what? Based on what? Like I would encourage Kim and the rest of them to like really do the research and understand the problem behind what you just said.

Don't just ignore the criticism. Don't hide behind it. don't let it fade away until the next thing pops up really understand why people are upset with what you said. Yeah. Yeah.

And just make sure that, you know, we don't need the dear from you. Just don't say stuff like, like. I just, yeah. Just trying to try it too hard to have a badass. I know that they answered a question.

Chloe's answer was fantastic. Yeah, Chloe's answer, Chloe's answer was good. Chloe seems like she's probably the one that has the most sense except in one area. Next topic. That was a cheap shot you feel like?

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Call 1-800-526-7736 to learn more or visit Tramphiator Radio.com. War in Ukraine. The war in Ukraine rages on. There have been talks between Ukraine and Russia about temporary ceasefires in terms of making sure that some people can get to safety.

A lot of bullshit that's happening right now. Russia has intensified its air attack on Ukraine. NATO and other people's intelligence have said that Russia has intensified its attacks on Ukraine's civilians. There's an American general who says that the worst is yet to come, that the next couple of weeks in Ukraine are going to be the worst. We're still dealing with completely putrid. humanitarian crisis that's going on over there.

Still people need help. Still people are trying to get out. Still people are trying to find their way to safety. I'm not so sure how close we are to the end of this. It initially wasn't going as good for Putin as I think that he had anticipated that it would. But since then, even though the Ukrainians continue to fight with an unbelievable, believable spirit. And I want to say something real quick.

Okay. Two boxers, Alexander Usik and Vasily Lomachenko. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Usik has three belts. Beat Anthony Joshua is a heavyweight champion of the world, him and Tyson, Fury. Lomachinko is just one of the most dazzlingly gifted boxers in the world right now. recently lost his title last year he lost his title to team female lopez he's come back a couple

of times he's currently not the champion but we'll see what kind of noise he can make in 135 both of those guys millionaires went back to ukraine and joined the military to take up arms against russia this is the type of shit this is the type of fighting spirit that is currently existing in Ukraine right now. They are not going down without a fight. Yeah. So, still thinking about what's happening

to the Ukrainian people. Right. And it's still fucked up. And I, oh. Go ahead. Well, I was just going to say, and I think that I was listening to a podcast talk about this. And this war has been going on for two weeks at this point, a little over two weeks. And, you know,

you constantly hear about it that Ukraine and Russia are in talks. But the latest as those talks have failed. And I think that Putin thought with the army that he had and the amount of people that were within that, that Ukraine would back down and they haven't. And just as Van pointed out, even prominent people within this country who don't have to do this, who are millionaires are standing with their country and are fighting for it.

This is something that Russia and Putin weren't expecting. And when I was listening to this podcast, it was saying because of that, because of Putin's pride, because he has no soul or conscious, he was going to ramp up the way that he was invading Ukraine. And we've seen it. We've seen there have been over 700 missiles that have been launched upon Ukraine. This is what I heard in a podcast.

Yeah. There have been residences, private residences attacked. Hospitals. You saw yesterday. You saw the images. You know, I've spoken on this podcast and I've only been trying to read articles and I've been trying to stay away from the images, but I saw it yesterday. Of mothers, pregnant, those who had just given birth, families, children being carried out of these residences, these hospitals. And they're saying that the worst is yet to come in the sense that it might even become chemical in the way that he's fighting this war.

This is, it's truly sad and it's devastating. And I know that we've talked about hoping to have somebody come on to the podcast. podcast and give an update and delve into what's happening because we want to continue to bring awareness to what's happening. We don't want to get comfortable in our own lives just because we're a world apart from what's happening. It impacts us. It's devastating what's happening to Ukrainians. And we want to show our support and we want to show our alliance of what's happening. Yeah. So, you know, one of the things right now is the organization of humanitarian corridors to make people who are fleeing from this easier.

The Russians and the Ukrainians have seemed to agree on some of this stuff, but President Zelenskyy of Ukraine says that the Russians are not really holding up there into the bargain, that they are in some ways attacking or sort of leveling attacks that are impeding people from being able to move freely through these corridors. And so I guess the main question that you would want to talk about as it relates to geopolitics or the main question I want to talk about is what's the end game here. If there is to be talks and like I said, these two countries have been in contact with one another. If there are to be talks about a ceasefire, what sort of conditions would meet the bent with what sort of conditions would have to be in place for Vladimir Putin to stop a attacking Ukraine.

I mean, short of a full skill taking over and annexing of the entire country, what would make him stop? What promises could be made if Ukraine promised to never join NATO? If Ukraine promised to, if there was some sort of, I have no idea, but like what's going to make him stop? And I haven't really seen that outlined anywhere because it seems as if that his goal is to bomb the country into submission. Marsh Russian troops in there and then kind of take over.

Yes. We'll see. Because at this point, they've only taken over one city and it's a port. They have not been able to take over other cities even though they've tried. And so that's why he is upping what he is doing because Ukraine has really shown resistance and has really been on the grounds fighting. There's also a political battle happening here stateside.

And the opinion seemed to be on both sides about how deeply the United States is going to get into this. There have been all kinds of different deals. There were some deals with some fighter jets that I guess do we want to, I don't even want to get into that. But the United States seems to still be about supporting Ukraine and supporting the people. over in Ukraine, but is very, very, very, very sketchy about doing anything that could be misinterpreted, misinterpreted as military support for Ukraine. So it's interesting. Yeah, it is.

It's interesting. It's a tough situation for President Biden as well. All right. Black people don't get the money that they deserve. Boom. According to a new report, several HBCUs have been underfunded by. at least $12.8 billion over the last three decades. Forge reports, 18 HBCUs were underfunded by that amount compared to their white

counterparts between 1987 and 2020. For instance, for the past 33 years, Tennessee State University received $1.3 billion less than it would have if it were funded at the same amount per student as the University of Tennessee. Would you look at that? other schools such as North Carolina Agricultural Technical State University North Carolina A&T

which is in Greensboro, North Carolina have been deemed the most underfunded of the HBCUs in all of these states. For was reported that in 30 plus years the HBCU has been underfunded by a whopping $2.8 million making it the most significant underfunded amount

discovered by the magazine. That is North Carolina A&T. There's a lot of other schools are on this list. Fam U, 1.9 billion dollars. Southern University in Louisiana, $1.3 billion per view A&M

in Texas, $1.1.1 billion. So, round it out the top five. I am, of course, an alumnus of Southern University. I know firsthand we could have used that money. We could have used that money at Southern if for no other reason than to build a bigger pin for the pet jaguar that we had.

The jaguar was named La Cumba was it? And they had this motherfucker living in a studio. I'd be real with you. Studio apartment from the Kuma. Like Mike the Tiger, LSU's mascot has a fucking $6 million

habitat. Oh my gosh. They built him a jungle. It's so crazy. Mike being that bitch like you broke motherfuckers looking at me. Like throw me another big piece of meat.

I'm like, eat that shit. I'm living the lap. You go, you come by a lacumba man. La Cumba's in that bitch like, yo man, somebody take me out. Somebody just in this. In this. I know I'm not supposed to be in this. It's literally like it might be as big as the room that I'm in right now. It's not a joke. If you drive on the yard,

I mean, they haven't had them in a while. But if you drive on the yard, it was all fucked up. Anyway. So these are things that are embedded into all different levels of state government. This is according to in Joyce Payne, the founder of the Third Glom Marshall College Fund,

which notes the lack of funding as discrimination. They say to all the white schools, you can drive a Bentley. She said, to all the black schools, you can't have a car at all. Rachel, as a proud representative of one of the richest schools in all.

The University of Texas There's a whopping $41 billion endowment. What are your thoughts on how these niggas can't even get a job? First of all, I have no involvement in how much the endowment is at the University of Texas at Austin at all. But this is what I will say. When people talk about how black people complain, how racism doesn't exist,

just take a look at this. This isn't some opinion piece. This is research that was done for a Forbes article. Okay. When we talk about systemic racism, this is what we're talking about. When you talk about how it is implemented into every system and institution that exists within this country, this is it, you guys. this is what we're talking about. These HBCUs are owed this money.

These laws were enacted in 1887. This is federal land grant funding. It's supposed to be matched by a non-federal source, which is typically the state. And if you go back and you look at this, University of Tennessee, which is 77% white, was getting four times that of Tennessee State. They weren't getting the money that was owed to them.

In Mississippi, the HBCUs had to come together to sue the state, the very source of their funding. They're suing, they're fighting the very source of their funding, which is crazy, right? They're seeking justice from the very people who were supposed to be giving them their money. They sued the state of Mississippi for money that was owed to them.

federally owed to them there are laws in place for this in 2002 they had to do this 500 million dollars was finally granted to them it took 27 years for this to happen and the supreme court the u.s not the state the u.s supreme court had to be involved for this to happen you guys this is ridiculous there are laws in place this is just money that is simply supposed to be and when you talk about hbc us and you wonder why they don't have the fact the students, the salaries, the research, the expansion. It is because money that is supposed to be owed to them simply under federal laws isn't even provided to them. They have to sue the very person that's supposed to be giving it to them. So when you talk about why they're behind,

when you talk about systemic racism, it's stuff like this. I had no idea something like this even existed until Forbes put this out. It is ridiculous and incredible, and I say that in a negative sense all at the same time. Let me, let me guys, let me create the, the, the value of the HBCU for you guys,

okay? All right. Let's tell a story of a guy, I know. He knows who I'm talking about. This guy got kicked out of high school, right? Got kicked out of school. He was forced to go to a school in Baton Rouge

that's called Second Chance Academy. Now, if you wonder what second chance academy is, it's just that. It's an alternative school. You got to go to Second Chance Academy. Not many kids going to college, getting scholarships, getting the help that they need after high school coming out of Second Chance.

I like the people at Second Chance is where you can go to really turn up because, you know, people at Second Chance was about to turn up. You feel what I'm saying? Turn it up. Second Chance Academy. Okay. This gentleman, let's take a chance, went on to Southern University, which has open enrollment.

I mean, if you can pay, you can go. Or at least it did when I was there. Open a roll. All right. This is somebody who coming from where they came from in high school simply didn't have the skills that you would need. This is not a slow, dumb individual. This is somebody that coming from Second Chance Academy in high school

didn't have the skills that they would need to go on and become a viable college student. Somebody who saw the importance and the value of higher education. Went to Southern University. at Southern University it's a situation where you can get time with your with your professors where you can go a semester

come back, take one off go another one. It's an HBCU. It's about family. It's familiarity. For some people, that first HBCU year is senior year two of high school. Sure. Everybody

talks a little bit more. Everybody's a little bit together. It's the same page. There's a familial aspect to it for a lot of people. This gentleman goes on to get his degree, then goes to law school, and now has a thriving law practice down there in Bad Rural Trauma from. No way he could do that at any other school but Southern because of the bonds and the ties that he was able to kind of build

with the family aspect of the HBCU. HBCUs are schools that are amazing for anyone who, wants to go to college. Just like I know that guy, I know kids that got into Harvard and chose to go to Southern for the cultural aspect of it, because their families win, because it's an

amazing place to be. You get a top-flight education in the classroom and you get a top-flight education in life. What I'm telling you is these institutions are needed and they are needed for the same cultural reasons that black people need each other everywhere

else in America. And when you choke them, what you're really trying to do is choke us. And I'm sorry, that's what's always happened. That's what's always happened is anytime we've tried to better ourselves, the HBCU is a revolt against America. It's a revolution against America. It comes from a time to where we were deemed unworthy for higher education. We couldn't go to your Stanford's and your Harvard's and your William and Mary's and

your George Washington's and George Thompson. And not only could we go to those places, but Georgetown University is actually responsible for some of my ancestors even being in Louisiana because the Jesuits at Georgetown were involved in the slave trade and made a land slave purchase that brought some blacks from where they were there to where I am, to where they ended up in Maryland, Louisiana. That is a fact. Look that up. So there are all kinds of other things precluded us from succeeding at these other colleges. The HBCU was a revolution against that, places where we could go and get an education and we could build a power base and we could also build a set of community for ourselves. Yes. I can't express to you guys how important these places are, right? That brings us to our next point.

So it is the anniversary of the American Rescue Plan. The administration took the time to talk about the fact that to actually break down where the money went. As it relates to some of the HBCUs we were just talking about, $2.7 billion in funding for historically black colleges and universities were provided through the higher education emergency relief fund the past year. With more money to come. With more money to come. A lot of it's still coming, according to Baccari.

I talked to Baccari sellers about this. He says the money is coming to create pathways of opportunity for black students. The fusion of federal funding among the largest ever in the country, for the country's HBCUs. This is something to me, I feel like Biden in there should be screaming from the high heavens. We're just talking about

how this HBCUs is getting millions and millions and millions of dollars through herfony. They're going to even get more. They've gotten some, but talk to Baccari about this. He says the money is still coming. A lot of these schools are going to get

some much, much needed relief. Let's talk about who got what. Van, where does this breakdown live? Whitehouse. gov. You can go see it. Whitehouse.gov, you can go check out the breakdown. Millions and millions and millions of dollars for schools that has been a part of the American Rescue Plan.

Now, I know that there's some, look, I'm going to go through some of this, okay, by state and territory. Alabama, $334 million for 13 HBCUs. Alabama A&M, $60 million. dollars. Alabama State University. $42 million. All of these are rival slack schools. They get no love for me. Okay. Let me clap for the fact that the funding is coming. The funding is coming and it's going to be used to provide direct financial

relief to students, which we know have really been impacted over the last couple of years. Bishop State Community College, 34 million. Lawson State, 34 million. Tuskegee, 30 million. All of these schools. Miles College, 18 million. All of these different places. Arkansas, $61 million for four HBCUs. Pine Bluff. $25 million. Shorter college, 13.

Philander Smith. Philander. Oh, Flander Smith. I've never heard of this school. I thought it was Flander Smith in Arkansas. I thought they didn't, they named that for Bill Clinton. $11 million. California, $13 million for one HBCU.

We got one measly fucking HBCU in California. 36 million for Delaware. It goes on and on and on. I will get now to Louisiana. Southern University, $64 million under this. $211 million for six HBCUs. So yes, this is money that these schools are going to get under this program. It's still coming to them, right?

This is going to happen for them. Here's my question. Me and McCarrey talked about this a little bit. And McCarrey, we were talking about how best to make sure. that this messaging gets out. I'm reading this from whitehouse.gov and it seems to me

that this would be something that the White House would be beating the drum of over our heads with these gigantic gaudy numbers of funding that these HBCUs are going to get is it all, has the media

dropped the ball on this? Black media because I've been kicking Joe Biden in his ass, right? Has the media dropped the ball on this? Or does the White House need to be better in its messaging or how it gets the word out about this amazing stuff that it's doing? Amazing to who is my question? Because if we go back to the state of the union address

and the conversation we had about that, talked about how Biden's messaging is very more so centrist and it is towards the moderate. So when you talk about $2.7 billion that is being provided to HBCUs, who's excited about that? And I'm not saying that we don't want to know. We absolutely do, but that's us as black folks. That's how that helps and benefits our community.

I don't know that it does overall for him when it comes to these midterm elections that he's spinning two-point when they're already talking about inflation and how we're over budget and all this money that Biden's spending. If it sounds great that $2.7 billion is being used. to HBC is. I don't know if that necessarily helps them in the overall picture. We want to know that.

Right. But does that? I don't know. Right. So this money is being used, like we said, a lot of things, but providing emergency grants, discharging outstanding student debt

or unpaid balances. Look at that. That's amazing. Yes. And eliminating transcript withholding practices. Do you guys understand how important that is right there? I've,

do you know how many people I've known that literally couldn't get their transcripts to even transfer to another. or move on with their education because they owe some books in the library or some dumbass shit. Yeah. Like it's like to be able to any time you can alleviate financial burden for any type of kid in the situation that some of the kids that go to HBCUs are, it's amazing. So you think that this is nefarious then?

You think that they're not beating their chest about all of these money that they gave to the nags because you think it hurts them politically. Rachel, that's so cynical. It is cynical. but when I'm using context clues or circumstantial evidence, it does that announcement, I don't think this country can accept that that is great for everybody. Helping HBCUs helps the country.

It's great for all of us to be able to provide funding for underfunded colleges and universities. So we're all thriving. So we're all learning more. We're all growing. We're providing the best education and facilities for all people who are willing and wanting to learn, I don't think they see it that way.

And I think that he will be criticized specifically from the other side for spending that much money on black folks. When has this country ever been excited that billions of dollars were being spent on black people? The crime bill? Correct. But that was against black people. That wasn't for us.

That was against us. And so it didn't help us. And I think that it's great in the sense that when black people are like, what did you do for us? You can point to and say, hey, we put aside $2.7 billion for HBCU just like we promised we would. But for the people who aren't doing the research and aren't going to, you know, this website to find this information, they don't know. So they can't complain and pick it apart. That's just what I think. By the way, it was mad black people who was fucking with the crime bill too.

But we'll talk about that in another day. We're coming to talk about y'all too. Fuck you. I was fucked it. I was too young. I was too young. I was fucking uncle in jail. I was and I was like that was the MTV spring break era of my life.

That was like 94 right? Yeah. That was the era. You were in your white face? What did your white face consist of? Whiteness? What kind of whiteness? You know?

Why didn't George Bush win? You lied. Why didn't? I'm just kidding. I'm totally kidding. I'm so young. I'm just saying. Don't play.

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Okay. I get put in a box when I have actual concerns so I'm concerned about you Oh And you sometimes you don't listen You put me in the box How about this?

A mountain lion Has been spotted Roaming Silver Lake Oh Residents of the hilly Los Angeles neighborhood reported sightings on social media Of a goddamn

Mountain Lion And warned neighbors to be aware and stay cautious if they are out walking. The sightings occurred after 7 p.m. said Mariana Ponca who added that one of the neighbors

called authorities. She wasn't sure whether or not her neighbor got through. Chris Blim, who also lives on Berkeley Circle, said he was standing in the street talking to his friend when something triggered a light on his neighbor's doorbell camera. He and the creature

locked eyes. At first he thought he was a but quickly realized it was a mountain lion, Blim said. We're just standing there looking at each other and the light goes off. The only thing you see is the eyes and that was one of heart drops. This is not a house camp. Ultimately, it's pretty awesome, he said. The whole neighborhood is excited. That person is definitely white.

Now, so you have criticized and you have criticized and you have. made fun of. You have made, you poked all types jabs me over it, lampooned by discussion of the mountain lion. And look at this.

Not even the hikings, walking around a neighborhood, Mountain lion. What you got to say for yourself now? Ha! Well, first of all, I'm upset that you're right. Our conversation has been about

seeing these creatures, like the article says, on hikes. The fact that And now I can't walk in my neighborhood for fear of seeing a mountain lion is terrifying. So what do you want me to say, Van, congratulations. I'm terrified. Congratulations.

You were right that I could possibly be attacked by a mountain line. I don't know where you want me to go with this. Yes, I'm scared. You happy? This is what I want you to do. This is what I want you to do. I don't need under that shit. Okay.

This is what I need. I need. me and you to go choose sticks. Where do you? And we need to choose. See, here's the only problem. To get the best stick, you have to go into the heart

of Mount Lion. You have to go, you have to you see, you have to go to Griffith Park and find like a nice thick branch on the ground and you have to sharpen it at the end. And I want to make sure that you

have that stick whenever you go. Okay. Here. Now it's not even about hiking anymore. Now I want you to make a sheath for it and put it on your back and wherever you go someplace. I want to see, I want to see you leave like the red carpet and you're talking to people, bye girl, bye girl. I want to see you pick up a sheath and put it on your back and it will be a stick so you can fight off a mountain line. This is how this whole conversation got started when I told you that I brought a stick because of Mount Lion. And you, yeah. But Kalika and I have both done Griffith Park and I saw no such stick. Okay? I saw no big stick for us to have.

Wow. I'll tell you why. Because she also is like you. She makes fun of me and thinks that I'm obsessed with it. What other part of the world? We have a, let me tell you something about Louisiana. We have an alligator. We have an alligator. In the pond in the back of my dad's house, rest of peace, father. In the pond, back in my dad's house, there was an alligator in the pond one time. It's a gator. It's a gator. It was bad, but you know what you do? The gator can't go nowhere. The gator had come up through the canal, and he was in the backyard. You sit there, you look at the galley, like, God damn, that's a real alligator. It's in the pond.

You call the wildlife and fisheries. They go back there. They get the alligator. It's not like he can fly. Mount lion is cagy. You know what I mean? Mount lion is, he's different. You might not be able to get him.

He's stealthy. He comes out of a night. It's terrifying. We got breaking news. What? Jesse Smallett has been sentenced. What?

You want to know for how long? Yeah. You want to guess? A month in jail. 150 days in jail. It's five months for lying to the police. I'm a hate crime host. Back in January 2019,

Jesse Smollett, breaking news, sentenced to five months in jail. Five months. Come on, man. They do the book at the, they do the book. He's also ordered to pay $25,000.

Okay. So Justice Smolett got how many days? 150. Five months. All right. So Justice Smollett. makes up a story and it's bad. You guys, I know you guys think I'm in the bag for Jesse.

I'm not. I just don't think this is that big of a deal. Justice Smolett makes up a story. We all know that he made up the story now. Jesse, I love you. You lied. You lied, bro. Okay?

Once again, I will put it on the blueprint again. Jesse Smolett needs to come out and apologize to Black America for lying. You lied, bro. I don't know why you did it, but you lied, my man. We all know. This sentence is harsh to me.

Five months in jail for this, for a non-violent offender, Justice Millett, if anybody was the victim of any violence, it was him. I don't know how much of this he's going to have to serve. But if he has to go to jail for five months because it is, that's fucked up.

There's a gentleman name Adam Johnson. Yes, he is. Who was pictured to Florida resident, carrying the podium from the floor, Congress. During the Capitol riots, he stormed the Capitol and took a fucking picture, broke into the Capitol building

of the United States, of America took a picture. He got 75 days in prison. Ridiculous. You can't tell me that what Jesse Smolett did was twice as bad

as the guy who stormed the capital and took the fucking podium. I'm sorry. I know Eli. It's just not that big of a deal, man. Make him pay a big ass

fine, make them do some community service. It's more bizarre than it is anything, but five months in jail? What the fuck, Doc? It's hard to compare to what happened at the Capitol and the sentencing in that case because that was a different state, that was a different judge. You're right. That guy, what that guy did definitely deserves more than 75 days for what he did, how he did it, the audacity of it.

It's just, it's incredible. and again in the negative sense of what happened. But that doesn't make me say that Jesse doesn't deserve the sentence that he received, especially when he could have gotten three years. I mean, let's not forget how this all went down. We've talked about this, so I don't want to get deep into it and go back and forth with it. I think we've had to agree to disagree when it comes to this.

But people were really searching for these people who brutally attacked him. and he lied about the whole thing and I still stand by the way that it does impact. I think it just looks bad when there are people who actually suffer from hate crimes and here you are making this stuff up. How does it look bad? Because you lied, you made up a whole thing.

And people were really like, this is what we're talking about. Racism still exists. This man was attacked. I mean, people were posting pictures. They were defending him. All because this dude was trying to bolster. his image and and his and his professional career we can agree to disagree we talked about this in the

podcast no we got we got to relitigate this i i just we were saying that racism and so when you're pointing to racism still still exist and this man made this elaborate story about how he was brutally attacked for the color of his skin and it all turns out to be true you don't want to do anything that plays into the minds of people to be able to say, well, no, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, just, Jesse Swollett. I don't know. I, I'm fine with whatever he got. He could have got one month,

five months, he needed some sort of punishment. I'm sorry. So, so, that's what I'm saying. Why would we take it easy on him? Why would we take it easy on the black teller

who fucked up and got, like, Like, give us audio. This is Rachel, so he can spew it. Give us audio of Jesse Smaller's reaction so we can hear so more lies. Give us audio of Jesse right now.

Give us the audio. Now. Is it your honor, I am not suicidal. That's what I was back to say. Okay. I am not suicide. Okay. I am not suicide.

I am innocent and I am not suicide. If I did this, then it means that I stuck my fist in the fears of black Americans in this country for over four. 400 years and the fears of the LGBTQ community. Your honor, I respect you and I respect the jury. But I did not do this and I am not suicidal.

And if anything happens to me when I go in there, I did not do it to myself. And you must all know that. I respect you, your honor. I respect your decision. Jail time. I am not suicidal. Okay. Sam.

And done. Jesse's making it hard for me. I'm like a lot. Just he's making a hard for me. By the way, by the way, I want to tell you guys something this. Just make sure we know this, right? I'm really not in the bad for Jesse. I really not.

I just really don't think this is that big of a deal. He did break the law. I don't think it's worse than storming the Capitol. I think more so I'm not talking about the fact that. I know, but that was bad. He was performing. It's like, it got insane. Jesse got to come clean.

Jesse got to come clean. Jesse got to come clean though. But I do think it's interesting that you think that we should. should we should we should we should show pity to the woman that got Brian Couglin. I didn't say that. But Jesse. I said we should. But it's like fuck Jesse.

No, I didn't. And stop. Stop. But, you know, Jesse, I hope, you know, I don't know how long he'll serve in jail, but I hope that he finds some sort of, I don't ever expect him to admit. Like at this point, you're so deep. You're so in deep. Like, you got to just stand by your life.

Like you put this out there too long. It is what it is. You know, I have wishing the best. Next. Okay. Rachel, we got to talk about something and it's going to be close to home to you. We got to talk about Emmanuel Acho real quick. I'm fine.

Let's talk about it. Okay. I'm sure that Emmanuel Acho, and I sent this on Bill's podcast, but I'm sure that Emmanuel Acho will hear this or get word of it. But the clown show has to stop. He said it on Bill's podcast. I did. I did.

The clown show has to stop. So there are two different instances this week of the clown show. And I say Cloud Show, I'm not saying that Emmanuel Acho is a clown. I'm not. What I'm saying is he's definitely putting on the show right now. For who? He's for the whites. Oh, no, that's the problem.

So two things happen. one is bad. The other one I think is actually irresponsible. All right. There was some talk about black quarterbacks. Lamar Jackson quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens said that there's still discrimination. He actually says he was misquoted to Alderchevter, whatever. But he seemed to indicate that there was still some discrimination that exists for a black quarterback.

Yes. He absolutely indicated that. Right. I can't speak to that because I'm not a black quarterback in the, the NFL. I could say, though, that I think it's still a pretty safe bet that the guy who won the highest win the highest in trophy and then had a bunch of people like Bill Polly and said that he saying that he should play another position probably feels that way. By the way, not specifically a black thing. The same thing happened to Tim Tebow, but I can't put myself in the position

of Lamar Jackson without putting myself in the position of Lamar Jackson, right? Two things happen. Number one, of course, if somebody alleges any type of racial discrimination, racial bias, racial inequality. Of course, it's Emmanuel Acho's job to go on speak for yourself with Marcellus Wiley and make sure everybody knows that that's not true. Right. Everyone knows that that's not true. That these are the reasons why he said it's not a racial problem.

He said it's a ratio problem. And he broke it down into numbers about why certain different players based upon these numbers statistically and all of these things have this bias against them. Reducing the entire issue down to one of current-day statistics and not in any way, his argument was so reductive because he did not take into consideration the years and years and years that this is built up, the perception that exists from pee-wee ball all the way up to the pros. It's just two layered an issue for that short little sense.

segment. And he certainly did nothing to dispel the, the, the, the, the feeling that Lamar Jackson might have in terms of being a quarterback, running a team, running the office. It's certainly getting better. We're seeing more black quarterbacks all the time. But if Lamar Jackson is telling you that he still feels this, I don't quite understand why Emmanuel Acho feels like it's his job to tell everyone that what Lamar Jackson feels isn't valid. And I'm wondering. as a black man why he would even want to do that. Okay, secondly, Calvin Ridley

bet on some NFL games, right? Oh, Ocho, sent a tweet out of a bunch of Calvin Ridley plays and said something that's, the tweet has since been deleted, paraphrasing it, said something like, well, I'm not saying that Calvin Ridley was throwing games,

but this evidence certainly is damning. Yo, my nigger, what the fuck, bro? The NFL invested the Calvin Rilly situation. They said that they found no evidence that he in any way compromised NFL games with the $1,500 parlay that he put down when he was on mental health leave. For Emmanuel Acho to go on his Twitter, and insinuate that this nigger is the 1919 white socks or for him to go on his and insinuate that he is the fixes in is such an outrageous claim.

Yes. Even if you're thinking it, even if you're thinking it to say that and put that in people's minds about that brother is fucking crazy. this comes after the fucking Shikari Richardson tweet where he said that he wasn't so sure Olympic athletes should be able to smoke weed because he's worried about somebody

getting high while they're throwing javelin and killing somebody else. Rachel, oh, we're going to stop the clown show. What's up with your man? Listen, stop that. I mean, I've known a man you watch show for years, but the same way you've got to call out family and friends when you see them

doing something wrong, because you just want to see them be their best selves, that's what we got to do right here. I can't defend this type of behavior. I mean, I think the fact that he deleted that Calvin Ridley tweet says it all. Like, it was irresponsible. It was reckless.

And you're putting a narrative out there that is actually very damaging to his reputation when the NFL itself found that there was no foul play in regards to that. And we talked about our opinions in regards to Calvin Ridley. So y'all know where we stand with that. I understand the pressure of having a TV show where you have to have an opinion in regards to sports that is on five days a week.

And there's this pressure to have a novel argument and to take a risk and to do something that generates conversation and might be a little bit polarizing. I get that. You want that. But that doesn't mean that you cross the line of it just being assonied because that's what this was. And so the Calvin Ridley, you said at best with the word irresponsible and it was detrimental to him. And what he has going on, especially when this is a brother who's struggling with his mental health. For you to put footage up there and to insinuate that he was throwing games with the very games that he bet on, he wasn't even in makes no sense.

So I don't understand where you were coming from with that. And in regards to Lamar, you want to talk about ratios. I think the most damaging thing that Lamar said in regards to his combine was the fact that they asked him to run wide receiver drills. Where's the ratio of asking white quarterbacks versus black quarterbacks to run wide receiver trails. That's what I would want to know. That's what I would know. Did Justin Herbert get asked that? You know what I mean? Did Danny Dimes get asked that? Was Joe Burrow asked that? That's what I want to know. If you don't grow up ratios, let's make this a well-rounded thing. Well, those guys are passers, though.

But to ask Lamar Jackson who won the Heisman, if he, to run wide receiver just shows that you are not confident in his ability to be able to be a starting cornerback when he won a top honor in college football. That shows the bias that exists within the NFL and the various 32 teams. To me, you trying to show it any other way when this is so obvious to me was not the hill that you needed to die on. And that's what I'll understand. And so family, we have family. and friends, but when you wrong, we got to call you out, and it should be known that we asked Emmanuel Osho to come on this

podcast. Duck in the smoke. I just want to say that. Look, he asked. By the way, let me tell you, let me tell you guys something real quick. I know about the clown show because I've put it on before. You guys know, come on. He got his tap dancing shoes in the closet. You guys know

I've been apart. I have to. Be careful with the tap dance. Look, I got to make a mom in there. You know, you know, you know that I've put on the clown show. It's hard for me enough to stop my own clown show, right? So I get it. I understand sometimes you want to put the cloud. But I'm telling the manual at show right now that his clown show is going too far

now. Stop the clown show. Cut it. Cut the shit, Emmanuel. Mailback. Mailback time. Time to read your letters and then we'll reply to them. Oh, it's mailback time. Write us with your queries and we'll chime in. All right. Aya Danger wants to know what is your,

no, no, she phrased it this way. Favorite cartoon growing up? Oh, the care bears. Care bears are great. Care bears are great. They had a message, colorful, positive. Did you like them? Did you like them better or did you like their cousin's best?

Oh, the care cousins. Definitely. The lion and stuff. Yeah, yeah, no. I'm well versed in care bear world. Definitely the originals, the OGs. I still have a 1985 grumpy care bear. Probably worth some money.

Yeah, back of the day. Cousers were better. Braveheart bear. Braveheart, the lion. I love the carebearer cousins. Stuff like that makes me cry. Why does it like, why do I want to cry when I think about the care bears? They were so sweet.

Care a lot. We care a lot. A lot. Yeah. It's like Who are the niggas now? The cartoons running around. They got spent like the Care Bears was just like

It's friends. It's going to be friends. It was all about making people care about what's happening. Care. And your feelings. It's such a good message. What was wrong?

What was the, the bad guy and the Care Bears? What was his name again? Blackheart? Dark Heart. It was Dark Heart. Dark Heart. It's Dark Heart.

Dark Heart. I like the Carebear. But of course, Black Heart. Blackheart is a Marvel character. No worst one with this, though. There are two. There has to be a tie for me.

Okay. One is the Thundercats. Actually, it's a three-way tie. I'm sorry. It's a three-way tie. Thundercats. Okay, so two of them are afternoon cartoons. And then one of them is a Saturday morning cartoon.

Ooh, the Saturday mornings were great. Right. Okay. So the Thundercats and He-Man, they were both afternoon cartoons. I just remember I will come home. I hope I get home. time for He-Man because after He-Man came on, Santa Barbara came on, and then you were fucked if you had to watch Santa Barbara.

But then Saturday morning, it was the get-along gang, baby. I don't know they get-along gang. Woo! They had a moose in a sweater, and he was their leader, you know? Let me see. Like, they used to have different adventures. They used to be on a train. It was to get-al-game.

Mr. T had a, Mr. T had a cartoon that was okay. I don't know why they had Mississippi people. I think Pats and Planet was a part of Saturday morning, but I'm not sure. Look at the get-along game. Look at these niggas. I've never seen them before. Not a one. These niggas is lit.

Oh, my God. Not a one. These niggas is lit. They look like bears steam bears. I've never seen. They got a fucking lamb. They got a goddamn dog. They got a couple of dogs.

They got a beaver. And then they got the moose in the front. The get-al game was lit. It was great. I love to get along the game. I don't give a fuck. All right. What else? All right.

Kyle Fochay asks, what game show would the Lindsay's and Lathens be best at? Oh, family food. Family food for the Lindsay's? Yeah, yeah. My family would be terrible. Actually, my dad would be awful. He would try to argue the point. Like, he would make the answer.

He would try to argue why it was correct. But we love family food. Family shoot. Uh, mine would be the, the $25,000 pyramid. Oh, gosh.

That's part of heads up seven up that we're gonna play this weekend. You know, it's kind of like that. Oh, real. Well, no,

you know, you have to guess, you can describe. Yeah. Oh, I love that game. $25,000 pyramid would be, would be,

my family would be good at that. Just because, like, we're good on playing off of each other. Yeah. Like me and my mom and sister. All right. One more, Donnie.

Make it the best one. All right. Uh, from page and cats. What's something you always thought was true until you learned otherwise. No, let's do the other one. All right.

Let's do both of them, actually. Go ahead. By the other one, there's two options. Okay, I'm going to go with this one. Amy Fontana. Okay, cool. What are your thoughts on interracial adoption slash how to support a black child

in a white family? This has nothing to do with me, so I don't know why you're looking at me like that. I'm not looking at you. Like, what? I mean, I don't have a problem with it if you're going to give, if you're going to give a child a loving home,

but then you need to make sure that you put things in place for the child to understand who they are and where they come from. I'm not about all that. We don't see color. You know, we just love, uh-uh. For example, when I lived in Dallas before when I'm a bachelor, I had, there was a family that moved underneath me, white couple, adopted a black daughter, and she couldn't do her hair. And she came to me and asked me, and I appreciated that. And I took out my bucket. I had all my tools. I did. her hair for and I told her what products that she needed and I appreciated that she came to another black woman to understand how to do her daughter's hair. So I don't have a problem with it as long as you don't make them lose their identity in the process. These are my thoughts. Have fun with it. And this is what I mean. You already ruin this little nigger life. So you might as well document the moments that they don't know what they're supposed to do. You know what I'm saying? You already fucked their life up by doing this to him.

them. They're going to come out fucking wearing a sweater vest, you know, all of that stuff like that. So you've already fucked them up. So it was your decision. And so because it was your decision, you might as well document it for the rest of us

so we can have fun. Like, for example, teach him how to dance however y'all dance, whatever it is that y'all do, like you want to, you know, get slap happy or do the river dance or whatever. And then what I want to see is video of the first time he goes to a dance at the all-black community center.

and he starts river dancing. I want to see the looks on the other phases of the kids. Because that's what happens. Yeah, that's what, I mean, look, this is the type of shit I'm saying, you don't give a fuck, right? You already want to, you want to do this. You want to adopt a good kid into a good home. So just have fun with it.

Have fun with it. You know, like throw some shit out there. Go wacky. Go crazy. Because these kids, these kids are, let's be honest with you. These kids are always a little weird. And that's the charm of them. The charm of them.

The charm of them is that they're all, they're laughing because you know it's true. These kids are, these kids are always a little weird. And that's the charm. Don't take the charm away from them. I want to meet them. And this answer.

I want to meet them freshman year in college and explain to them what a do rag is. That's fun. For who? For who? Like, it's fun for, dog,

you don't know what a du rag is? No, mom. Mom takes me. They're not. I go to the super cuts and they just give me a number one. And it's, it's shit bad. Oh,

you got a buddy could put this du reg on your naps. It's crying. Anyway. All right. All right. Did you watch Love is Blind on Netflix? No. What are your thoughts about shake?

Okay, man. What are your thoughts about shake? No. No, bag is over. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, love is blind. We don't watch it. I'm not watching another one of those shows. Fuck it.

All right. Do you have an unexpected ally of the week? It was the 911 operator. I actually think she did a horrible job. No, 911 operator. Do I have an unexpected ally of the week? No, I don't. They got no allies.

I'll tell you what my unexpected ally of the week is. The reverse Reddit. That's not unexpected. It would be unexpected if it was the Thought Warriors Reddit. All right. You guys know that we love you. Just come on, man. Relax.

That's it. Big time podcast. Justice Smillett. People always going crazy over a Justice Millett thing. I still want to try to get Jesse on the podcast. I don't think he's going to come on it now that I said that I think that he's guilty.

But you have any last words on Justice Smolett? I'm sure that he'd be more than willing to perform. Let's go ahead and fade out the podcast to locked up by Acon. But don't stop thinking. I'm Rachel Lippin. Play it, dog. Hit it!