Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay - Tayshia Adams On Her Racial Identity And Her "Bachelorette" Experience

Episode Date: December 8, 2020

Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay discuss James Harden recently being picture at Lil Baby’s birthday party without a mask (10:00) then are joined by current “Bachelorette” Tayshia Adams to discuss her racial identity and her experience on “The Bachelorette” (24:00). Then they talk about a recent viral video of dating expert Kevin Samuels (42:00), President Trump’s potential pardons (1:01:00), and give a Bachelorette recap (1:13:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? It is I. Van Lathan, it's time for higher learning. And it's me, Rachel Lindsay. Swear sometimes, you know, sometimes a man, I've been like, wait, are you going to introduce me to? No, I'm not going to introduce. Van Lathen is higher learning.

So this weekend, you guys. I don't speak for you. Hey, what's up with your bandana? Are you crippling? This is black. Yeah, but some, you realize that it's not just blue. Different sets have different colors. Oh, I'm not well versed in it.

Excuse me, but this is my new man. Oh, right? It is dope. That is kind of tight. Yeah. You look like a femme fatal. Just let you guys know if you're not watching it. The mask looks like a bandana, but then it comes up and over the ears. I know I'm sure you guys have seen them.

It's kind of tight. It's kind of tight. Where'd you get it? I don't know how to say the brand's name, Zadig and Voltaire. Oh, I know it. Yeah. Yeah. I got to send some stuff from them.

People used to send. You are such a name drover. Why? It's not true. Oh, yeah, you know, they send me some stuff from that. No, no, no, no, no. Not them directly, but people send assorted boxes of stuff. And then when they send it, like, it'll be different brands that'll be in there.

Oh, I have an announcement to make. Please. It's an announcement that I'm going to make with this piece of orange in my eye. I am retiring the use of the N-word on the podcast. Whoa, who got to you? It's true. Somebody, I'm going to leave this a mystery. okay i'm gonna leave this a mystery

but it's somebody that's very influential in the media space uh that said there's really all the other curse words because they heard both this podcast excuse me both the parents podcast and some other ones all the other curse words they go yep they go the inward and in it's if it were a different podcast yes

but in this particular podcast i like The N-word is not quite. It's jarring in the podcast that you're doing. It is. You agree? Then why aren't you ever saying? Because you wouldn't have stopped if I would have said something. That's not, we could have had a whole seat.

This is the problem. When I talk to you, it's different. When I listen to it back, it comes out in a different way. Was the person black or white that said it to you? Now, you know damn well. Rachel, smack yourself. You think, you think, you like, you, Rachel, like, you know damn well. There's no goddamn way.

This story would have went a completely different way. Yo, who the fuck? What? Did you pay your reparations this month before you talk to me? No. Of course they were black. Of course. You know, damn.

Well. But your reaction is everything I wanted. Yeah. Actually, you troll me. You baited me into it. Good job. That's a good one. That is, that's what I'm talking about.

That's how I know that Big Rage is coming to her own as a troll. As a troll. Because you know. Good damn. For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters. Tramphia offers self-injection or intravenous infusion from the start. Tramphia is administered as injections under the skin or infusions through a vein every four weeks, followed by injections under the skin every four or eight weeks.

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Two weeks, two weeks for now. Hey, I want to come back in. She goes, I just got to notice. We're getting shut down. We got 48 hours to shut it down. It was kind of cryptic, confusing. Like, there was an option. I'm not quite sure.

The order's confusing to me anyways. Right. So, I mean, there's really not much you can do. So I just took the opportunity to enjoy quiet time, get my affairs together. I watched the fight. I had to watch it on my computer because Spectrum wasn't acting right. That was annoying. But yeah, no, I just chilled.

I really didn't have an eventful weekend. Honestly, I'm getting a little sad, man. I mean, I've kind of been sad. But because of everything that's going on, like we had a family meeting. we're so Cosby this Cosby kids we're so Cosby kids we have a family meeting

because we're trying to figure out Christmas we're trying to figure out traveling for the holidays and what that looks like and the more we talk about it the realization is we're not going to be together

that's sad I haven't seen my family in a year and I'm just very torn about traveling back to Dallas so that kind of was a damper on the weekend. Yeah, look, I can imagine your dad is a barrel of laughs. So I can imagine a Christmas without Judge Lindsay. It must be like not having Clark W. Griswold. I'm going to just imagine. No, I'm joking. Yeah, obviously. Yo, I mean, look, I've been very,

I've been very forthright about sort of what's going on on a daily basis with me. I wake up and from about, I'd say, six, okay, so I'll wake up every day. Talk about being sad. I wake up every day. And from about, I'll say 5 a.m. to 10 a.m. It's really bad. I mean, like, I've up the therapy to daily now. And so for about 5 p.m. 5 a.m. to like 10 to 10, it's really bad.

Like crying, crying. I don't know if I can do this. Then I start to come out of it. You know, then I run. Then I meditate. And then towards the end of the day, I'm feeling somewhat normal until we got to do it all over again. And it's just like, yeah. And so the only reason why I say that is because, you know, when you say that you're sad because you're not getting to see your family for Christmas, you're not saying that you're sad because you didn't get a good grade on the chemistry exam

or you didn't get the big interview that you wanted. You're not seeing the group of people that you love at the time that your body tells you, your soul tells you that you should be with them. So it's just hard. And I completely, you know, identify with it. It's hard when you feel like you're the reason that you're not going to go see them is because you're trying to do your part for the greater good.

Right. And then I watched my hometown this weekend and people are out maskless, maskless, enjoying a fight. You know, just for pleasure, posting their pictures, you know, they're showing people on camera. Terrence Crawford sitting in the audience, no mask, you know? And it's, it's just. tough because it's like you're doing what you're supposed to do, but other people aren't. And for that reason, it messes with what you're trying to do, but also like my sanity, my sanity at the same time. I said it.

I said, if I can't go home for Christmas, I'm not going to be okay. Right. But I didn't think that that was really going to happen. And now that it is looking like it's happening, I don't know. It's tough. So here's the thing. I was talking to my therapist and I was talking about the fact that

there are times in life until I wish I was a simpler guy. And she was like, how do you mean? She was like, well, I can't imagine some people that I know having some of the issues that I have because, you know, something would happen to them and they would ignore it, they would ignore it, they would ignore it.

Like, you know, you watch that Lance Armstrong thing. I wake up with a sore, lower, stomach for two days, I'm headed to the oncologist. Lance Armstrong, like I told you guys before, I had to spit blood before he went to go check on himself, right? And there's sometimes that I wish that that resilience or that sort of blissful ignorance was alive in me, even though it's obviously not.

So when I watched the fight and I saw all those people in the crowd, I was like, yo, in a small way, I was kind of like, envious. I was like... I get what you're saying. You know, I mean, and this is not... Look, I got the mask. I got... Right now, I'm eating the orange, and I drank the orange juice. We're going overboard. Staying home, doing all the right things, but

it's somewhere somebody right now throwing dollar bills at somebody in Miami or Atlanta and stuff like that. And sure, a lot of people are going to get sick and it's going to do irreparable harm but it just looks slightly enticing from your bunker sometimes from your whole. But I don't want to be one of them. And I'm not saying it any one should be one of them. And by the way, speaking to this,

I know you guys saw the pictures of James Hardin at Little Baby's birthday party in Atlanta, no mass, no anything like that. If you guys don't know the backstory, James Hardin, player four of the Houston Rockets is trying to leverage his way out of Houston, forcing the team to trade him. And so he kind of indirectly trolled them.

Not directly, if you ask me, by posting pictures of him at Little Baby's birthday party, no mask or anything like that. I got to say, that's the lamest shit that James Harden has done in a long time. Speak on it. Like, James Harder, a good guy. You know, for the most part, he likes to have a good time.

But you never hear anything really, really bad or dangerous about James Harden. That's the most dangerous thing he's ever done. I'm not with all you got to live your life through this and this and that. But the reality is that there are going to be people who look at James Harden and see who James Harden is. And the example that he's setting. That's it. He's out there being that type of reckless.

And they're going to think it's not going to be a big, be a bigger deal. And that's going to end. That's going to end with a fucking tombstone somewhere. Yeah. For somebody else. Like anytime you go out there and you do those things, like I said before, I can understand the urge to. But if you're going out there and you're doing that, it is not just potential, but likely that you are killing people.

Exactly. That's the anxiety that I can't let go up. If I go and do it, who I might be fine. And I might never, I might never know what I contributed to. But the thought of I could be carrying it, I could give it to somebody who gets to somebody who ends up sick and possibly dies, that to me is, is what I go through mentally, which is why I can't do it.

But James Harden, like, I mean, you got to, you got to, and let me ask you this, did James Harden additionally go out and then posted on his social media that he was out and about, or did someone catch him? No, he posted it on his social media.

Now, what James, look, there are two different sides of this. What James is doing, in a way, just basically has to do with the fact that he no longer wants to play. Houston. That's not the way to do it. But, I mean, look, in a regular sense, it would be.

Well, just don't show up. Then just don't show up. In a regular sense, it would be a smart move if you didn't want to play there anymore, not just to not show up. But then to sort of embarrass the franchise by being seen somewhere else, thereby forcing them to do, that's just the dirty business of sports. In this particular situation, there's an extra added public safety concern that goes along with the actions that he was flung.

And I just wonder, like, it has nothing to do with anything moral. It doesn't, you know, I'm just a pussy, I guess, because I'm actually scared. I mean, I'm being for real. Like, I'm actually afraid of leading people to die. Like, I'm afraid. That doesn't make you, that makes you considerate of humanity for the public health of other people. That'll make you a pussy

just because you want to do the right thing. So that makes them not that. That makes them hard because they want to go out here and be reckless and are so selfish that they can't sit out a few parties for the greater good. Like, that's not, yeah. By the way, did you see what James Hardin

gave a little baby for his birthday? Was it a bag? It was a bag of money and honey buns. Like he's like, he's whack. You think James Hardin is well? I love James Harden. On the court or off the court?

Like, look, I mean, there's nothing wrong with him off the court. James Hardin does what he does. Like, to me... I just think that's lame. That's what to me. To give the gift itself or the No Mask? Well, the No Mask is its own story. The gift.

Honeybonds and money and a bag. Who is a little baby to you? I said, man. Are you not a good gift giver? I'm not that kind of gift giver. But also think about it. Wasn't it $300,000? It was, yeah, it was a lot of money.

See, but look, this is unfair. I'll tell you why. Because George Clooney, it was reported some weeks ago, gave all of his homies like a million dollars each or something like that. 14 people, a million dollars each. And everybody was like, oh my God, what a great guy, James Hardin. I think there was more depth behind it, like, when he told the story, like the way he invited them out. And he was like, no, no, seriously.

And it was more of like, these were, no, these were his. childhood friends, they had supported him through life and he wanted to do something for them. I don't, maybe I'm assuming the wrong thing. I don't think that's a little baby for him. I don't think that that's, I don't, I mean. Now you're trying to tell them, you're trying to tell

people how close James Hardin and a little baby are? Listen, the the theme here is, is it whack or not? I personally think it is. I don't even problem with the gift. I wish my man would give another man $300,000 and some honey buns.

What if it was another woman? In a purse. What if it was another woman? Forget about being a man. What if it was a woman? Oh, come on now. What if what? You don't give another woman $300,000?

Who is she? I mean, who is she? It's friends. Brian's allowed, I would assume, to have, you know, friends. I don't do, I don't play that game. Right. So then can he, he get them nice things?

For what? $300,000? $300,000? He absolutely cannot. What if he was worth $500 million? For what? Why are you giving this person? It depends.

It depends. Okay. let me take that back. If it's a friend, if it's a friend who's, you know, you know, like been there with you through thick and thin and they are in need. Right. In need keyword. Then sure. And we can afford to give it away. Notice I said we. Uh-huh. Then sure. Okay. Put you like this. Let's say Brian's super rich and you guys become friends with Jennifer Lopez and Alice Rodriguez. They don't need our money. But you can't, but look, like in that type of situation,

this is a celebrity type celebrity thing. They probably get, you have, would you have a problem with him getting J-L? I think J-Loh and A-Rod would never want us to give them $300,000. I feel like they, if somebody wanted to give me that money, I would be like, you know what, can you donate that to frontline workers? Can you donate that for like PPE? Can you give back?

That's what I would say. I'll keep the honeybonds and the purse. But can you give the rest of the, the money way because I don't really need it. Right? I'm sure they took that money and went to V-Live that night. So maybe they did get back. They gave back to Struis. They did. Well, they were in Atlanta, so

probably might. Oh, they were in Atlanta? Yeah, so it probably wouldn't have been V-Live. No, no. Sorry, I thought they were in Houston. Yeah. Well, maybe I was wrong. Maybe they were in Houston. I don't know. Whatever they were. I think it was Atlanta, but it could have been Houston. I don't know. Here's a, like, here's the thing. Look, whatever you're going to do,

I think we all have had our priority shifted. I think it's just really important right now to keep your eyes on the bigger picture. I know in the past, athletes have been criticized. Celebrities have been criticized for not keeping their eye on the bigger picture.

But that was the bigger picture when you're setting, when you're setting like examples on, you know, excess and wealth and superficial shit and stuff like that. The bigger picture now is just straight up living and dying. That's the bigger picture. And that's the entire thing right now.

It's the entire thing. living or dying. Who's going to live their life? Who's going to pass away? I'm reading these horrific stories and God knows I should stop reading them. Yes. What are you doing that? Yeah. Just like God knows I should stop reading. I'm reading these horrific stories about people because most of us know people who have been sick with COVID. A lot of people, not a lot of people know intimately someone who has died from COVID. But for every person that doesn't know anyone, That's died from COVID. There's somebody that has lost dozens of people.

I have a friend that lost, listen to this, I have a friend who has lost 93 people. Shut up. 93 people. Oh, my God. From COVID. Family and friends. Family and friends from COVID.

93 people. So, you know, it's just, it's important that we keep our eyes on that. And that's not as being a celebrity or being anything else. That's being a member of the human community. A decent person. Just try. And I get it.

I get the want. But it's, but it also is, it's people dying, but people also just suffering who are living. People who want to die because of what COVID has done to their current situation, people who are struggling with their mental health,

people who have committed suicide, people who have lost it all and have nothing because of the effects of COVID. COVID isn't just affecting lives. It's like in people who die. It's also affecting the living. So to me, that's how you have to look at it as well. It's people that you see passing the street that are being affected by this. Or like your friend who's lost 93 people.

How disrespectful is that to them? Yeah, yeah. We just all got to do better, man. We just got to hold on. I know that everybody's getting exhausted with it. I know it's hard to talk by it every single day. We got to hold on. We got to hold on.

We got to hold on, man. Like, especially during the time they're in right now, we just have to hold on. I want to say something real quick to you. Are you in trouble? You're in trouble. You're in trouble. I haven't done anything.

You just said the P-word on this podcast. P-Sy? Yeah. You're in trouble. You think you think you're going to have to tell it to the judge. That's what you're going to do. Well, you realize you said it first. And I just repeated what you said.

Don't matter. I know how that goes. He's going to say, so a band jumped off a bridge. Would you jump off the bridge too? I raised you better than... I'd at least look over and see what was on the other side. That's what I did.

Look, you're invited to my house for Christmas, and I got to tell you something. And copper? Of course, copper. Of course, copper. Copper the wolf. It looks like a wolf. To this point,

a development happened a couple of days. ago. Okay. So my mother, Crystal Lathen, Crystal Ellis, ooh, she would be pissed. Crystal Ellis, let me get that woman her maid name back. She took that name back. You know how Tina Turner was like, I'll do anything. I just keep the name. My mom was like, my mom was like, you did it, just like she did it in the movie too. Keep the name. That's exactly how she did it, Rache. It's a movie I've seen. My mother was like, the opposite. Oh, I said the N-Warrant. I'm sorry, my bad. My mother was like, hey, take your name. Come get this name.

So she is now Crystal Ellison. She's like, come get this name. What I got, I go to the DMV. I'm there. I got to go to the post office. I'm there. Come get this name. So my mother was talking about, she's like,

I'm coming there for Christmas. I'm like, no, you're not. You can't come from Christmas. And she was like, son, I'm coming for Christmas. You can't tell me anything. Like, you're struggling. Things are happening. like I'm coming for Christmas.

I'm like, no, you can't come. And I'm like, you can't fly. There's no way you can fly. She's like, oh, we're going to drive. So my 65-year-old mother, 64, I don't know why she asked the year, and my 82-year-old grandmother. Both are coming.

They are driving. Now, I, just to let you guys know, I'm totally against this, but I have no say. They are doing it. They know my address, and they're coming out here. The only thing I can do is make this trip as comfortable for these two elderly women as possible.

So I got to rent the nicest, the nicest, biggest, roomiest cars. I got to plot out the route so they can stay in some hotels. And I'm going to pay one of my homeboys $1,000 to ride with them out here. Oh, wow. Yeah. And then I'm going to put him on a plane back. I don't care if he can see. I'm going to put him on a plane.

I'm going to put him on a plane. He'll be young and strong. He'll be fine. I'll put him on a plane back or maybe he can stay through the holidays or maybe drive back with them or whatever, whatever. But they're going to be out here. So if you want...

That's beautiful. They're cooking. They're cooking. If you don't have your family, we're going to limit this to six people. Okay. Six people. And I'm sorry, a COVID test is going to be necessary

before I put you around my mother and my grandma. Absolutely. My only thing is is Brian because he, yeah, we're not going to be apart. Whatever we do, we're going to be together. So he'll have to get, I get tested regularly, but I will keep you informed. I appreciate the invite. Yeah.

Now, are they cooking? Oh, wait, no, gumbo. Gumbo. Are they going to make gumbo? Yeah, they're going to make gumbo. Oh, I'm definitely coming. Oh, I'm definitely coming. That's like, you know, that's the whole function of them coming out here. If my mother was saying, like, yo, like, I'm coming out here,

but I'm not making any gumbo, I'd be like, Mom, really, it's too dangerous to come. I forbid you to come for sure. I'm not going to pay for anything. But when she threw the gumbo in, I was like, oh, maybe so. All right, let's take a break. For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters. Trimphaya offers self-injection or intravenous infusion from the start. Trimphia is administered as injections under the skin or infirmia.

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new celebrity to the world joining us right now. on higher learning. We have Tasia, Tasia, the current Bachelorette. Shake it up, Palm Springs. Joining us today. As you guys know, I am a brand new initiated batch. This is my first season watching the Bachelorette. And this is my, as far as actual Bachelorette,

this is my first Bachelorette we have here on Higher Learning today. Tasia, give it up for Tasia, everybody. What about Rachel? See, now you're getting the dynamic of this show. I love it. I love it. Well, Rachel, you were the Bachelorette. Well, I said it's my first bachelor.

I mean, as a viewer, you know, Claire was on there. They're shade there. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. Go ahead, good. I'm excited for you. This is a big moment for the show.

It's a big moment. I'm so excited to be here. Thanks, guys, for having me. It's a lot of fun. So I've been watching. I've been watching the shows. Okay. Tell what you think.

Okay. There's two things that I think. Well, the first thing was that when I, I, I've made a point on this show to tell everybody how much I despise Chippendale, the Rescue Rangers, Claire and Dale. Like, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't dig them. Not in a personal way, but in a way of that much attraction can be annoying. Okay. They just were all over each other. when you came in, it was a curveball in the show.

And Rachel told me about this being it, became a more traditional bachelorette show. My question is, for you, knowing everything that had happened prior to you getting there, did you feel the need to shake it up or act in any other way or bring balance back to the show? Did it change the way you would have approached being on the show had you been in Claire situation initially?

I mean, to be honest with you, I didn't know much about what was going on. So I didn't know how the, guys were feeling. I didn't know what they had experience. I didn't know how many dates they went on. I knew nothing. I just knew that Claire had found her person. And it was just an opportunity I've been given. So I was just me. That's all I was. You know, a lot of people, Tasia, feel like it was unfair. Like, we supported you. We were excited for you when you were announced. And that hasn't changed. but a lot of people were like,

sis, don't you think it's unfair, that Tasha has to come in mid-season? And I'm like, no, I don't feel that way at all. I'm interested for you how you felt about that. And do you feel like you weren't, did you feel like maybe I won't have enough time to really develop a strong relationship with any of the men? I mean, obviously, it kind of sucked

not to be announced the way every bachelor has been announced or not to experience all of that excitement beforehand. Because when I did get the phone call, I left, you know, quite soon after. And I didn't really get like that. It was just, it happened so quickly. I didn't really have a moment to sit back and be like, okay, this is what's happening. I'm thinking this way. I'm feeling this way. I was just, I was in it and it was just me. So that kind of, that's, that part kind of sucked. But other than that, um, I'm so happy it happened the way it did. I, I wouldn't change it for the world. So are the men.

They are. So when you got there, you had one less guy there, you know, because Dale was gone. Yeah. You've seen Dale. You've seen the way Dale has been. I'm interested to know that had Dale been there, do you think that Dale would have been high up on the list of guys knowing what you know about day? He was so messy. I'm not being messy at all.

I'm asking. I actually kind of want to know too. Yeah. I would ask me this. Do you think that are you in any way salty that you didn't get a crack at damn? You know, I didn't even see much of Dill. I think that the qualities that I did see about him, like, rushing to her side to making sure she was okay and, like,

just being a really good strong figure for her to lean on is a very attractive quality. But at the same time, a lot of the men that I, you know, was dating did exactly that to me. So I really can't say, like, I wish Dale was there because I didn't experience that. You have said before and prior interviews that you wish Claire had warned you about some of the men. Now that we're midway through the season, who were you referring to? And are any of them still there? You know, no, I think I trick. I think I got, you know, I broke up with most of them at this point.

I don't think it was like one person in particular I'm just like I never wish I met him. No, like there's just some qualities that like just like this petty boy drama that's going around. Like I wish it would have been cool to know like, you know, like this guy, he just likes to start drama. Like this guy's not very serious.

Like this guy likes to be the clown of the group. Like nothing crazy. But I wish it would have been cool to get a little heads up. But I think I'm pretty good judge of character. So I figured it out quite quickly. To that point, I got to tell you who my favorite guy on the show is. And I'm not even, it's not even close to me. And I feel like, I kind of be honest with you, he's kind of getting a raw deal from you.

I got a bone to pick with you. Oh, no. I feel like the obvious L. cream of El Cropio in this situation is Bennett. I feel like Bennett is an absolute G. Benet, like, let me tell you something. Bennett is giving, sharing, he's a smart man. And so what? So what, he has a little static with somebody?

That should show you that he doesn't back down to anybody, you know? Like, what's this thing? Why aren't you and Bennett hitting it off more? Like, what can we, what can us, what can Bennett Nation? Forget about Bachelor Nation. I'm the head of Bennett Nation. He is. What can Bennett Nation expect going forward?

Are we going to be pleasantly surprised? Or are we going to be throwing dartboards at you, throwing darts at a picture of you on a dartboard? Like, what, what's going to happen? You're just starting to see the conversation between him and Noah. So I think after tonight's episode, you tell me how Bennett Nation is feeling. Like, I think that he shows some colors about him that I am not really a fan of. Oh, did I hit a nerve?

This is the thing. I have a problem with the way that people talk to other people at times. If you're going to be condescending to people, just because, I don't know, you might have a higher education. That doesn't mean that someone else should be like talked down upon. You might, you know, think that you're better suited for someone. That doesn't mean that somebody else doesn't have a chance. And I think that who are you to tell somebody that they're not good enough?

So, and if you're willing to do that to say this sounds. I don't like way it sounds like. Yeah, if you're not willing, if you're willing to do that blatantly in front of other people, like how do you talk to other people? You know what I mean? When it's just you and that person, like I don't know. So just wait until tonight's episode, I guess. And then you tell me.

Are you okay, man? No, no. We'll see. We'll see what happens. I can't wait. This better go my way or I'm going to start a Facebook group. Tasha, it's our secret that I've been such a huge proponent of diversity on the show, which is, I mean, you would have been an outstanding pick outside of being a woman. of color, but you are, which makes it even more exciting for me as a former lead and then also

as just a fan of watching the show. So I do, I want to clarify some things because I feel like there's a lot of talk. So when you do interviews, like obviously I did, I was the first black bachelorette. And then you'll do interviews. And then people will say to you, you're the second Black Bachelorette. And then you'll actually correct them. And so, like, I really want to give you the platform, because I did an article on it before, but I want, like, you to be able to speak on it about how you feel with that title versus what you really want people to say and then why that's important to you. Yeah. I mean, I am the first biracial African American and Mexican bachel. And I think that that's amazing.

And I want that to be recognized because I think that's that's a mix that is out there and that a lot of people want to identify with. And that's not always shown on television. So like why can't I just, I want to speak for both minorities and show them that I'm here for them. So I am African American and Mexican and I like to be referred to as that. Now, because we're all family here, we're all family here. Okay. I can tell you right now that there are black people who are going to be upset and going to feel a certain way about that answer. Years ago, in a conversation, some conversation, Tiger Woods referred to himself as cockablation or something like that.

That's because he made that shit up. That's why people felt that way. It's a true thing. I get it. But I guess what I'm saying is, do you get the fact that when people see you, they see a beautiful black woman? And sometimes it seems to black people that our blackness is never enough. They want to identify with you as a black woman. They want you to claim your blackness and say, yo, I'm black.

And do you understand why people would see, would hear you say that and then be upset by it being that it seems that anybody who, has our skin tone or looks like us, suffers the same exact perils that we suffer, that they will want you to kind of opt into your blackness and not mishmosh it up a little bit. I understand that completely. But then I also look at the other side of like, the fact is that I am also Mexican.

And then it's really nice to be able to identify with those people as well. Like, because I've actually, this past weekend, I was on the end of, AACP panel for like the visual arts panel. And I had said that it was amazing to be like a biracial woman on television at the moment. And I got so many DM saying from women that are biracial, but specifically Mexican and something else saying like, I am so happy that you're speaking up and you're claiming that you are Mexican because not many people say that they're Mexican and something else.

They just kind of identify with the other race of what they want. look like. And I understand that as part of like the African-American community. Like it's nice to, it would be nice if I was identifying with that a little bit more. But I did that actually up until, I don't know, maybe in high school. It was when I really felt the need to start identifying with also being Mexican. What made you change if your mom be asking? Well, okay, so I had said this earlier. But I think like in school, like when you take like those skin or those, like those testing and you're trying to pick with which ethnicity you are. They don't always say like you're this and that, this and that. You usually pick one and you can pick other. So for so long, I've always just identified

with being African American because my, the other was not something I could always like check. So I've always just said, yeah, I'm African American. But then there was like a point like, I'm so like proud of my Mexican heritage and like half of my family that's in Mexico. Like I have like an uncle that's a priest in Mexico. I have an uncle that's a senator in Mexico. Like, I'm proud of them, and I want to claim that as well. So, I mean, I understand both sides of the conversation, but... There you go. I think it's important, Tasha, for you to distinguish because so easily...

So people want to put us in a box of you're this or you're that. And so I think it's important that you do push the conversation of saying, I am black, but yes, I am also Mexican at the same time. And I think it's important to keep having that. conversation because so often people want to assume what you are or put you or hold you to a a certain standard. And you shouldn't have to do that. But I also think it is, you know, but then that makes you, it's more on you because black people are going to want you to represent for them. Don't forget about us, sister. And Mexican people are going to want you to represent

for them as well. So it's, it's great that I think that you're saying, hey, hey guys, I'm both. but, you know, also it's going to be a lot on you because so many people are going to be looking to you for representation. But most people just, like, assume that I'm just African-American. And when I say that I'm also Mexican, they're like, wait, hold on what? And I love that. I love that, you know, I'm a mix that you don't really expect, I guess. Like, people are always like, you're a mix that some of them,

I just don't know what it is. And I love that I'm able to clarify that. I don't know. I identify both of them. And I think both of them are very beautiful. Represent. Yeah. My cousin, my first cousin is half white.

And you don't know, you don't think about it, right? So I remember I'll never forget this. As a kid, I'm over at his crib. You know, he says that his cousins are going to come over and bring over a video game. And I'm like, okay, it's cool. I get to meet your cousins, you know. Cousin, when I grew up, is another word for a black person in your family. That's what cousin meant.

His cousin comes to a door, and it's a white dude. And I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, this is my mom's sister's son. I'm like, yeah, dog, but he's white. How can he be? You know what I mean? But there's a whole different side to his world. So look, I'm winning, sister, you know, is you have to be, you have to define you.

Just don't forget about us because we need the representation. All right. So beyond, beyond the show. Oh, actually, no, before I even get to that question, this is my last question. Let's say you were going to pick five guys that were going to be on a bachelor for you. Five guys in celebrity world. Five guys in celebrity world. Let's say you were going on a bachelor, you're going to be able to pick five guys who would have been on your season of the bachelor, five celebrities.

Okay. Okay. Tasha, who would have been the five celebrity bachelor off, bachelorette off for you? Who would have been the five guys? Okay. Like Liam Hemsworth. Okay. Thor.

Oh, no. Wait, which one is, which one is Liam? Liam's a tall. Is that Milley's guy? Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Obviously. Right. I haven't really thought much about this. Who else?

I find really, really attractive. Just reflect. Didn't they ask you this? Because, well, I guess it was a little different from how you came in, but usually they'll say, what's your type? Who are you interested in? No. I know. So you didn't get that. You don't understand. Like, like, I think when so many people are like, you should have thought about this stuff. Like, you guys don't understand. Like, I literally was at home like everybody else eating donuts in my bed and then I got the phone call.

Okay. Like, I was not thinking about falling in love. I was thinking about falling in love with my postmates man because he kept bringing me donuts every week. But what all that's all like I had in my mind, like it wasn't, my headspace was not there. I mean, it was quarantine. So obviously I didn't think I was going to fall in love in, like, 20, like, or have the opportunity to, like, date 20 guys. You know what I mean? Yeah. So Liam, Michael B. Jordan, just give me one more.

Think of one more. Also, I find really, really attractive. Well, aside for, I can't say Matthew McConaughey, because I always say him, but he's married, so, like, that's not possible. That's okay. That's okay. Say somebody married. I married him in high school.

I had a high school marriage project, and I married him. There we go. Matthew McCona. Yeah. So those are three guys. I would love to see. just those three guys. Who are you putting your money on?

Who you're putting your money on then? Mike, man. If you ever been around Mike, it's weird. He's suave. It's not even, it's like, I was at a party once, and Mike shot me a head nod, and the girl next to me

thought that he was giving her the head nod. Oh my gosh. It was the funniest thing in the world. Like, she freaked out. Anyway, Tasha, I am, very happy for you. Things are going so well.

Hopefully we can still be friends after Tuesday night because... I'm expecting to hear from you. You're in the family now. You're in the higher learning family. Higher learning family. Continue to do your thing,

define yourself for yourself. We will be watching the show doing a recap every single week here on higher learning. Tasia, thank you for joining us today. It was a lot. Yes, thank you. Bye, guys. Bye, girl.

All right, so I saw a fascinating piece of video that has made his way around the internet now, but that we have to talk about. And I don't know if you guys have seen it, you know, all different flavors and cultures here on higher learning, but the video itself was phenomenal. It's a video of a guy named Kevin Samuels, who I guess he is some sort of relationship expert type of guy,

and he has a show where he talks about, you know, different aspects of people's relationships and different aspects of women trying to get men, men trying to get women. And he went viral for some of the comments that he made to a woman. Do we have any of the audio? The advice is, ma'am, ma'am,

you're average looking at best. I'm taking it in, but... Okay, but you're not accepting the fact that, okay, average-looking women, average-looking woman who's older. average looking older woman with a 13-year-old son. And wait, so you have to understand. So you hear him talking to her like that.

First of all, she sat there and she took that. Mm-hmm. The entire time, she was a woman. She was from North Carolina. She called up. She said that she wants a man that makes six figures. And Kevin Samuels was telling her that she's not pretty enough for a man that worked six figures,

that she has a kid. and that she's too old. And he went through these things over and over and over again, just destroying this sister, telling her that she should lower her standards. What did you think of the video, man? He went viral. By the way, it was two sides of his argument.

What? Yeah. One side of the argument was that he should not have been speaking to her like that. The other side of the argument was that he shouldn't have been speaking to her like that, but he had a point. Okay. First of all, this man, Kevin Samuels, anybody, this woman should be ashamed of herself for even calling into his show because it seems like, and I've never heard of him up until this point, but it seems like this isn't the first time he's made some outrageous comments like this. So why would you even put yourself in a situation for this man to tear you down? This man has some deep rooted self-hatred issues I feel towards black women, not women. black women. The way he sat there

and tore this woman down repeatedly. You made your point the first time, okay? But you had to keep telling her that she wasn't getting it to the point where you start calling her out of her name, calling her abroad, and then hanging up on her before you curse her out as well.

This woman came to you, and I have a lot of girlfriends who like to seek advice from men. I don't think that that's a bad thing, right? Like sometimes your home girls just don't get it and maybe you can get a better perspective from a man because they can tell you what the men are thinking. This man decided to tell her.

First, he set her up because he said, rate yourself, which I actually appreciated that the woman said, you know what, I'm not going to come out here and say a 10. Wait, wait, did you find it interesting that he goes, don't say seven? Because everybody says seven. He said, rate yourself from zero to 10, you can't use seven.

So that forces you to say either I'm attractive. which would be attractive or six, which I'm happy. So he's not giving you, I actually like that. He's not giving you the opportunity. He's say, I'm a seven. No, you're either an eight to a ten or six or below,

which means either you know you got it or you know you don't. Well, she was very honest and she said, I am a five without makeup. And with makeup, she bumped herself up to a six. So he goes, great, your average, your average at best.

I thought the fact that she was very honest about that was nice. But the fact that he put her down to average because of what she gave herself as far as a ranking and then the fact that she had a child didn't take into consideration that she is a business owner. She is a successful business owner and she herself is making a certain amount of money. None of that can make her above average. I just thought it was very, it was very shallow. He didn't take into consideration other things. And to me, the fact that he was so disrespectful when we're in a time where we're talking about uplifting black women and just that he felt he could, he had the audacity to speak to her

in such a demeaning way. Like, sir, who are you in this poorly lit room with I don't even know where your show is streamed on? I just like, just like, let's talk about, let's flip the table and talk about you for a second. Are you average at best? you got to be above average given this woman, this, this average, this mean critique. I just, man, it went around in my friend's circle, a group of black women who were irate.

Now, I will say that some of them said he has a point, but his message was lost in the delivery of how he came at her. But I don't even think he had a point, but go ahead. Okay. So I want to know. I see your face and you think he had a point. It's not about the fact that he had a point. So this is the thing.

This is the thing. A couple of things. First, I'm going to ask you a question. Does it make any difference to you that there are now videos floating around of Kevin Samuels talking to men the exact same way? No, it makes no difference to me. Because he's talking, there's a guy that calls him up and he asks the guy, he goes, do you have a big penis?

And the guy goes, no. And the guy goes, okay. And he tells the guy, he goes, okay, so you don't have a good job. You don't have this. You don't have a good penis. You have nothing to offer the type of women that you want. And he's so short-sighted. That's what bothers me about his opinion.

He groups all women the same way. You look a certain way. You make a certain amount of money. Then you only want this. And that is so unfair to do. Men too. Can I be honest with you? Is that true?

Is it that not true, though? I've never said my man needed to make six figures. But here's a deal, though. Does your man make six figures? And I ain't average. Does your man make six figures? Yes. Yes, but not every man I've had has.

I know. But the question is not whether or not, you're not now criticizing Kevin Samuels. Now you're criticizing the lady. Because it's the lady that said that the man has to make six figures, not Kevin Samuels. If she had said she wants a guy

who's a nice bus driver, whatever, she could probably have all those guys first of all, I don't know who she could have. I didn't see anything wrong with her. So I don't know who she can have, But to me, and I tell brothers this all the time, there's a beauty standard that gets set by Instagram models, right? And then guys, I saw a guy, one of my homeboys, he made a meme.

And the meme was of, or he shared a meme. And the meme was, the mean said something like black women say that they want black men, but they're really only talking about these four guys. And I think it was like that Coffey from Queen Sugar, Odell Beckham, Jr., O'Shea Jackson, this is a couple of years ago. And then like a couple, whoever the hot guys,

Michael B. George, whoever the hot guys were at these time. And basically saying, us other brothers don't get any play. That's a lie. That is a lie. There are women in your city all around a place

that would love to go out with day with you. The problem is that Instagram has changed your perception of what beauty is, to the point to where if there's a certain type of rap video woman that doesn't give you attention, it makes you feel like you're worthless. When really the reality of women like that is that their pool of guys to choose from today is so vast that if you are going to appeal with them, to them, should I say,

you're going to have to be singularly exceptional in some kind of way. either you're going to have to be the finest dude or you're going to have to have the most money but there's going to have to be something and that exists on the other side as well if you want if like it and and that is a barrier to happiness and by the way men experience that men see guys who are in the club they buy in a bunch of bottles

they got all these businesses they got money there all of this stuff like that and they think think, okay, well, that's the kind of she want a baller. She want this. She want that. It's all about the money with her. It's all about this. And I always wonder, if a woman could date a rich guy, why would she date a broke one? It seems like jumping into a lot.

I'll tell you why. Because you can have dated rich men before, and it depends what your needs are, and there's something that you needed, right? So a rich man can give you money and he might be able to give you a certain lifestyle but can he give you him? Is he going to give you the time and attention and the loyalty and honesty that you want? I'm sorry if you don't want those things

and you're fine with the material things then you can have that shallow type of relationship but if you want some type of depth and you want more out of it then women will turn away from that because they want their relationship to give them something else. Now you're assuming now

that every guy who is rich or the majority of guys who are rich don't have any depth. You're right, but I'm not, I'm more so answering your question of why would a woman want somebody broke versus this? And I'm telling you, if she's not getting those things, if she's not getting those things from her guy with money,

then maybe getting the other things are more important than the guy being able to be the breadwinner. Right. And my thing is, if you want an, Instagram, Glamazon, if that's what you want, then it's like anything else. It's like a house or a car or a loan. You have to qualify for that.

You do. That's just a funny way to put it. It's like anything else. You got to qualify for that. And if you don't qualify for that, why don't you, this is whoever is looking for the person, not lower, because I'm not talking about lowering, readjust kind of what your belief. in physical interaction is, your belief in what a relationship is,

a real relationship is, and try to make a connection with a real person and not with an image of the person you think you're supposed to be with. Now, I think that that's what Kevin Samuels was saying in a completely... Don't speak for him. I'm not in a completely crass way.

For me, whenever I see a brother, anybody talking to a black lady like that, I'm out. Yeah. I'm out. But for the sake of this argument, I'm putting it to the side that I think that because of some of the things that exist now in society, functioning relationships have started to kind of take the backseat to fairy tales.

You know what I mean? And the reality is even when you're in a relationship with somebody, you're not in love with them every hour of every day. Sure. But at the end of every day, that's a Sex and the City quote. Is it? Did you get that from Sex and the City? sitting.

Charlotte says that. What she said? I can't remember who she's talking to, but she's like, do I love him every second of the day? No. But at the end of every day, I love him. Sometimes not even at the end. But no. So I think he came off wrong.

But if he's telling her, you're setting your expectations, you're setting yourself up to fail with some of your expectations. Just because she wants the man with six figures. She didn't say that he had to look like, you know, like a. Morris Chestnut or, you know, or whatever. She didn't say that he had to look and had to have no kids. And all she said was, I want somebody who meets me equally on my profession level. So I don't think that that is too much to ask for. Because it ain't like she's not.

And that's what my friends and I were saying. We needed to hear the part of what she originally said. That's what I wanted. Yeah. Because if I'm just going off of her saying six figures, because that's what he kept bringing up, then why is it wrong for her to want? somebody who equally matches her professionally. She's not asking for the stars here.

She's just asking for someone to be an equal breadwinner or more than her. I don't think that that's far-fetched. I think you could definitely be average and your money makes you go up a couple of numbers. So do you think, so what I would say is when you think about what's equal to you, I mean, if it's financial, then yeah. The question then becomes, though, is a guy that makes, makes as much money as you interested in you. Well, that's what Kevin was saying.

Right. And if it's going to be a money thing, then that's a fair question to ask. If he didn't ask her a question, he told her. Well, we're assuming that she had already said that. Well, he told her they will never be interested in you because you look average. That's the problem. It was too black and white. It was either this or that.

And there was no room for, I wouldn't even call it the exception. It's just, I think that there are, I think there's several people, a lot of people who, it doesn't have to be this or that for them. You know, it just depends who you are. He's wild, though. He's wild. He's wild. He's super wild. You should have seen him talking to the dude.

By the way, the way he spoke to that woman was completely, because there's no reason to deliver your message like that. But that's why it went viral. That's why we're talking about. Is everybody black that calls into his show? That would be very curious if he talked to a non-black that way and if he would talk to it. a non-average woman that way. Yeah. That's what I would want to know.

Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, it's just like... That's a man. He hates women. I'm sorry. Can't tell you something? Do you know that there's no such thing as an average human?

Yes. I completely agree with you. There's no such thing... There's no such thing as an average human. So I want everyone right now in their mind to think about something that exists once in the space of eternity. Think about that. there's only one of them ever made.

So even if you have like a watch, right? Like a watch. And let's say Richard Millie makes a watch. And Richard Millie puts the watch out and he says, this is the only one of these watches I'm ever making. The watch is going to sell for a million dollars. Because all the guys out there, all the ladies out there are going to be like, I have to have that watch

because that's the only one of that watch that has ever been made, right? painting Monet Van Gogh whatever the reason why those paintings are so valuable that they've painted

because most of those paintings are one of ones they didn't make 10 paintings and then put them out there right when you look at the Superman book there's a lot of Superman number ones

but the last Superman number one when there's only one left is going to be insanely valuable because you can't get another one. I just want everybody listening to this to know you, whoever you are, you are that watch, you are that book,

you are that painting, you are the only one of you that has ever existed, which makes you exceedingly rare in the course of eternity of human history and the past, there has never

been another you. So it is impossible by that logic for you to be average. You are by definition extraordinary. Extraordinarily rare and extraordinarily

especially. And the moment that you realize that, you'll stop listening to niggas who are telling you what you can and cannot. That's two. That's two. That's two. Oh, damn. That's two. You'll listen. You said it too. I was repeated what you said.

You said it. You said it. I got your attention. I got your attention. Oh, they never heard me say it on this podcast. They're going to freak out. I know. Damn. It's hard.

My bad. At least you're aware of it when you do it. Yeah, ladies, know your self-worth. You might look for advice from men, but don't let men define yourself worth. It's like the kid in school when the teacher tells you can never be what you just aspire to be. Don't let people do that to you. Yeah, well, yeah, we'll see.

We'll see what happens. So look. There's a lot of stuff going on out here in the world. It's a lot of stuff that's happening. What? Oh, you mentioned Superman. You asked me what I did this weekend. I meant to tell you, I saw Wonder Woman the sequel, 1984.

It's so good. Were you not a fan of the first one? You know what it is that you're doing. So it's like it is, it's, it's, it's trite. It's almost cute now what you're doing. You know what you're doing. You know what's happening. Do I?

You're, yeah. I just said you asked me what I did and I forgot. It's such a good movie. Yeah. So good. New characters are introduced. Yeah. I know.

This is how life goes because, like, you know, you are, life goes this way because people like you, and I'm using that, they get stuff like that. People who couldn't care less. They know what I mean? Like, that's how life goes, you know? It's like, it's just. I care.

And it was for work. By the way. Did you enjoy it? It's really good. It's long. It's two and a half hours, but it's worth it. And it's a very good for what we're, as a good message for what we're going through right now.

Very, very good. Really? A good message for what we're going through right now. Yeah, because of what the, like, she's obviously, you know, going against Maxwell Lord. You know that at this point and against the Cheetah. But why, what he's doing to the world and what's happening to the world

and how she has to fight him is, a different way. I don't want it without giving too much away. And so it's, there's a lot of great themes about, you know, that are inspiring and uplifting in the movie. All right.

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Rudy Giuliani has the COVID. He's got COVID. What do you think about that? I think it's only a matter of time. All those people that are rolling around in that Trump circle. It's only a matter of time. before they all get it. Did you see that meme

that that St. Hokes thing where it shows him wiping his face off with like a bandana and then he like wipes his mouth and then he pats the bandana and he wipes it on the woman? I mean, come on.

He's like an incubator for this kind of stuff. Look, a far be it for me to wish any harm on anyone. I'm not wishing any harm on Rudy Giuliani. Hope you recover some COVID.

Like, you know what? I feel the need to make sure people know I'm a decent person by saying stuff like that. But the reality is that I don't necessarily want him to die. You know, I don't want him to die. But his fucking stupidity got him into this situation. He earned him. Play stupid games, get stupid prizes. So when I saw that, I wasn't at all surprised at it.

But the weird thing is, if Rudy Giuliani comes out the other side of this without a series, or, you know, with his life, it'll just probably do a lot more damage to the notion that COVID is actually dangerous. Isn't he hospitalized? I'm not sure. I haven't seen. Okay.

I saw the headline and I kept scrolling, but I thought somebody said he was hospitalized. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, the reality is that a guy like Rudy Giuliani or Chris Christie or Donald Trump or whomever just has access to cutting edge therapeutic technologies. that you won't have.

So if you're judging your ability to survive COVID, by their ability to survive COVID, you are miscalculating because you're in America and you're not them. But yeah, so that is along the same token, just the wild list of pardons that could be happening, which is Rudy Giuliani, Ivanka Trump, which these would be preemptive pardons,

preemptive pardons. And Joe Exotic, and then himself, those are some of the people that Trump is looking at part, pardon. Some of the people are saying that Rudy Giuliani is going so hard for Trump so that he can make sure that he obtains this pardon, this preemptive pardon before evening that would happen. There's also news today that the president is looking at potentially throwing a big time shindig.

What? Did you see this? No. Yeah, so the president, it looks like, might be throwing a big shindig. I'm breaking news on Rachel right now. A president throwing a big time shindig timed at the exact same time as the inauguration. What is the party, the theme? What is it called? Just a party?

It's going to be a big rally to announce his 2024 candidates. Oh, that isn't surprising. So that tells me that obviously if we thought that the Trump nightmare was over, it's not. It's just moved out of the White House. But are you surprised?

Haven't you come to expect this at this point? Yeah, but what? I think that I'm not surprised at what President Trump is doing. I'm surprised at the almost wholehearted endorsement he's getting from the GLP. I have to admit, I didn't have much respect for other Republicans, but the respect that I did have, I overshot it. Now, I can't say that, I can't say with any sincerity that on the left things would be any different, but I got to believe that they would.

I got to believe that they would. The way that things are happening right now in Washington and the way people are tucking their head in the sand, the president is doing everything he can to undermine American systems that have really buoyed the union for hundreds of years now, and they don't even care. Because it doesn't affect them, right? And if they go against it, it does affect them,

because let's not forget, almost half the country voted for Trump. So this is all about them protecting their seat and their place in Congress. This is all about them pleasing their constituents at this point. That's what this is. I thought too,

yeah, I mean, what was it? I think I heard today, only 20-something members of Congress have actually said Joe Biden won the election, even though he has at this point

achieved enough electoral votes to be declared the president. It's not shocking to me. And I think that's why Trump feels like he can run again for 2024 because he still has a strong base. He still has people that are supporting him in his ideals because the things that he's doing against us that affect us don't affect these people. And it's all about self-preservation.

It's all about them protecting themselves at this point. You know? It's just weird to hear America first from some many people who put themselves before some many things that are cornerstone to the country. They're America. You want to talk about fixing slogans. America first doesn't mean America, you know, like all of us. It's my America first.

That's what the slogan should be. Right. Well, yeah, we'll see. I think that the peaceful transition of power and preserving the will of democracy is something that should be, you know, across the board. But, hey, I'm wrong. Hey, I'm wrong. You're wrong.

Because the election was rigged, man. That's why you're wrong. That's true. You know, democracy. It wasn't carried out with the election. If that's how you're thinking, then why would you change that at this point with anything? I am interested to see what would happen if Joe Exotic was set loose.

Is that really, okay, is that really being considered? I know people are saying it's a possibility that Joe Exotic would be pardoned, but is that actually something that President Trump is considering? Maybe. look, I'm not saying that Joe Exotic, I'm not sure whether or not it's being considered or not, but I will say this. I'm not saying that Joe Exotic is a good guy.

I'm not. I'm not saying that Joe Exotic was a good guy. All right. I want to make sure everybody knows it. I'm not saying the Joe Exotic was a good guy. That's not what I'm saying. But. But.

But this is what I'm saying. Because if you look at Joe Exotic, Exotic and you look at everything that was going on with Joe Exotic and you look at all of the different things, the treatment of the animals and all of that stuff like that. And the fact that they had those big cats down there in the first place, which is

something I completely detest. Not saying Joe Exxat is a good guy. I am saying it's very easy to watch Tiger King. Come on now. And come away with the and come away with the notion that Joe Exotic

got a raw deal. He plotted to kill Carol Baskin. Well, let's talk about, let's talk about Carol Baskin. No, no, no. No. Let's talk about Carol. Let's talk about the fact that there's some things out there with Carol Baskin. Well, to me,

does that mean she deserves to be plotted and killed? Look, there's a movie called Road to Perdition. And I love the movie. Tom Hanks and Paul Newman or in that, rest of peace, Paul Newman. that was one of his last big roles. Whose name? Is this in the movie?

What happens in this movie is that Paul Newman's son played by Daniel Craig, right? So they go on a hit at the beginning of the movie. Tom Hanks and Paul Newman's son, they work for Paul Newman. And Tom Hanks' son stows away in the trunk of the car. Yes. And he sees the hit. And they see him because he gets scared. he runs away, whatever.

They see him. Like Tom Hanks talks to him. Paul Newman talks to him. Everybody talks to him. They think everything's cool. Except for Daniel Craig, who is, once again, the guy's son, he goes to Tom Hanks' house,

kills his son, kills his wife. Not the same son that saw him. I was going to say, yeah, kills the other son and the wife, right? Okay. So Tom Hanks goes on the warpath He's got to kill Daniel Craig He's got to leave road to perdition

They got to go up there They're running now because everybody's gunning for them Great movie I love the movie There's a part in the movie Right Where Tom Hanks says to Paul Newman Something about, you know, being a killer

Paul Newman looks back at Tom Hanks and says Mike There are only killers in this room meaning like there are no rules because we're all killers. There are only killers in this room. So if it's good for you, if it's good for, no, no, he doesn't say, he says he killed Michael and he killed his wife. He goes, there are only killers in his room.

That's the way that it goes. To me? This is not the same thing. That's kind of how I feel. That's kind of how I feel. It's only killers in this. this tiger pin. Because it's hard for me to feel bad for Carol Baskin

when I completely believe that Carol Baskin killed her husband and fed him to a tiger. But that's what you believe. The woman was not convicted of that. That's true. She was not charged and convicted. Joe Exotic, there is proof that he plotted against Carol and was on a mission to kill her.

I mean, and you want this man to be pardoned, just so you can watch Tiger King Part 2. That's not what I said. I didn't say I want. I said it would be interesting to see what would happen with Joe Exotic back out on these streets. Because you know who the last person that wants Joe Exotic out? It's Carol Bassett.

Carol Baskin, that's right. Because Carol Baskin knows that Joe Exotic would have all of the media and public support to get to the bottom of what, happened down there in Florida. Will Dancing with the Stars offered Joe Exotic a spot? They should. They gave it to Carol.

They put murderers on the show. You know what I mean? Wait, who did they put on the show? Carol Baskin. Oh, stop! They might as well do OJ next. Do I'm saying? Do OJ? Can you imagine? They should do a whole Dancing with the Stars. Just people that we know did it.

Carol Baskin, O.J., Robert Blake, just a whole dancing with the stars. Klaus von Buello, I think he died. But like all, just a whole dance with the stars of people who we, it could be dancing with the stars. Murder is rough. I should, that's a good idea. I watch it.

That's a good idea. Look at us. We're like, we would support it. So bad. So bad. People used to say that to me when I was in high school and the whole OJ trial was going on. And they were like, yeah, yeah, OJ. I was like, yeah, yeah, just so let y'all know,

OJ killed two people. I don't know if you guys know this. Yeah, you'd be excited about it, but OJ. killed two people. Definitely. Yeah, for sure it did. You're playing golf right now as we speak. Let's get into the batch recap.

Okay. Let's go ahead right now, get into the batch recap of this particular episode. Let's make sure, you know. First of all, I thought it was in very, I'm going to start with a couple of things I didn't like. Okay. I thought it was a very poor taste to startle easy like that. I didn't like it.

You said startles. Yeah, she ran out on Easy like that. Just the way that Easy was treated in this episode, I thought was piss poor. I thought everybody got more respect than Easy did. From the beginning, she's telling ghost stories to Easy. It's like she never really took Easy seriously. No, she didn't. That's what?

So there's, there's always, and I, I'm going to ask her about that. there's always, and she won't say this, but she's still under contract. One of us is. One of us is not. There's always an episode where you got to send somebody home on the date. I don't know how it was for Tasia, but I got to personally choose who,

like who I didn't see bring into the end. That's like, I'm not going to waste your time anymore. That's what easy was. From the moment she gave him the date card, she was always going to send him home. There was nothing that happened on the date. There's nothing he did wrong. That man was always going home.

Wack. But a fun date. I would have had fun. I would have loved to take him, taking somebody on that date. Gross stories and stuff like that. I like scary stuff like that. You know, like you get scared.

You could pretend to be like, oh, hold me, you know? No. Generalized anxiety disorder. No, don't jump at me. I'll put that goddamn shotgun on you. I'm telling you right now. don't jump at me because it's not going to be my fault.

Jump at me, I'm going to extend that right hand on you. And then I'm going to be like, yo, like, never fails. That's how some of the best fights between me and my sister and brothers started. They jumping out, scared. Now I'm crying. But now we got to go.

Like, you know, we made me cry. We got to fight. But anyway, so who was the guy that had the long, drawn-out story of him, getting on that dope and going to the bank. And Zach C. God damn.

Like, Zach C had it rough, bro. Yeah, yeah. That's probably one of the most intense stories I've heard on The Bachelor. He completely destroyed her with that story. She had to give him the ropes. I'm serious, man. I think she really likes him, but that was heavy. I mean, he could have told one part of it,

and it would have been enough. Right. He gave it all. I mean, kudos to him for being vulnerable enough to share that in front of everybody and not afraid of being, you know, judge.

You never know how someone's going to take that. Let me tell you something. You want to know what happened with that? What happened? What happened? I was so raw emotionally that after that I saw a commercial for the Ronald McDonald's house

and I donated. Like, he had me. Good. The story did something. Yeah, it worked. First of all, donate to the Ronald McDonald's house. Those kids, you need your help.

By the way, I've done stuff with the Ron McDonald's, fantastic organization. All right? The strongest kids, the strongest parents. My God, that you have ever seen before in your life. Donate to the Ronald McDonald's a good cause. But I hadn't donated in a while.

And I think ABC played me because it was this. And then it goes right to a commercial for the Ron McDonald's house. And I'm like, okay, now I've got to get money to the Ron McDonald's. So I gave it to the Ron McDonald's house. That was cool. That I kind of dug. The wedding marriage date was stupid. I don't like that.

That's the kind of stuff that turns me off with the show. because that's creepy as hell. That's the kind of stuff that makes me not want to watch the next show. That's creepy as hell. Yeah, it was, I mean, the photographer was the star at that moment, but it was uncomfortable,

and I think that's what they were trying to do because both of them had been married before. So I think that they were trying to make it an awkward date and sing, yeah, you know, but I would have hated that date, hated it. I didn't have anything like that.

What was the dude that took all of his clothes off? Ben. I hate him. Ben got to go. Like Ben, like Ben, Ben, to me, that was the corniest thing I've seen. That was... Why?

Because... When nobody taking their clothes off? You know, they thought that they were going to have to take their clothes off. But then they really didn't when they were doing the painting and stuff like that. But what nobody doing that taking their clothes off? Like, the fact that he did that, these guys, all of these guys are fucked in the head. Well, it wasn't that. It was that he took off.

his clothes and then said nothing, right? Like, I was like, oh, you know, you're gonna, like, I took off my clothes because of blah, blah, blah, blah. You would just like, he was like, you know, I'm more than just outside. I want you to get to know the inside. And that was it. And I was like, okay, Ben, you might as well have just stood there

and went through your hands in the air. I mean, that would have said more than anything. And I'll tell you something. Like, that's so weird, because that, only in the Bachelor with that work. It's like, I want you to see the real me. So take a look at that dick. I thought that was the easiest thing he could have done, right? Take off your clothes.

I thought that was the easiest thing. And then she cried. And she cried after. She got all, because he was willing to stand there and stuff like that. I will say this. Just getting fully nude in the light like that, that is kind of, that is G. Because if your body has been through the ringer, then being fully nude just in the full light. Because even I create some angles.

you know, there's some You know what I'm saying? I make some angles. I might pop a shoulder out. Look at that shoulder. Don't look at the midsection. Look at that shoulder. That shoulder right there.

See all, see this area, this area up here, the shoulder peck area off the chain. I was blessed with great shoulders and all of this up here. Okay. And then it like progressively gets worse. you know what I'm saying then it gets better

then it progressively gets worse you know what I'm saying so like even me I made some you know I'm like you know look at my trap's don't look at that extra tini

so like just to stand there in the light I was like yo this dude a G he really was a G but it still was corny last thing I'll talk about just in my recap good episode of the Bachelor

good episode of the Bachelor okay good it brought you back good episode of Bachelorette a lot of people thought that I would have something negative to say about Bennett and how Bennett, not to me, I thought Bennett. I thought he was fantastic.

I thought he was fantastic. I thought Bennett came with some props. Bennett, Bennett came with some props and Bennett was kind of a gangster. Benet gave him a bandana. That could be looked at as an act of war. You know what I mean? Like, that could be looked at as an act of war. Like, yo, here's a bandana.

This signifies the issue from the country or whatever. No, that was, when Bennett, when Bennett first, did that, I was like, yo, Benny kind of putting the gauntlet down, but then he gave him a book and all of that stuff like that. But they let us go without telling us which one of those guys who get us at home. Exactly. It's called a cliffhanger.

You're going to get to know what happens next week or Tuesday in this case. Tation had been at not sitting been at home, man. What are you going to do? How are you going to react if Benin is no longer with us? Go on a, I hate Tation campaign. Well. easy work.

Have you seen, so that's the Bachelor Recap. Like, I enjoyed the show. Okay, it was good. I'm glad that, you know, I just think that certain things bother me. The easy thing bothers me.

But it was overall a good show. I just got to be honest with you. The show should really be shorter, man. I'm not, it's like, it's just, it's, that's so crazy to me.

Like, I have, there are different eras of one show. Like, one Bachelor at show has different eras. There's an era of,

it's like, it's like a mini, it's literally like a mini movie every time. And that's a lot. I can't, I'm not doing the next one. I'm not even going to lie.

I'm not doing it. You're not going to do the first black bachelor? I got to do that one. God damn. You got one more in you. You need to see it from a different perspective

so you can see the women when the women are contestants. Do they get crazy? Crazy? Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.

They do. Okay. I know what I'm talking about. They all definitely play their roles. The show is definitely too long. I'll give you that. But I think you're going to enjoy, and I told you this before, this week, I believe it's this week, you've got the men tell all.

So you get the reunion show, which is always good. Do the women on The Bachelor, is there ever, like, do they ever twerk or anything like that? Has they ever twerk? They don't show it. They don't show the twerking. Because we do. They don't show it. The Bachelor is basically like

True Kitchen and cocktails in Dallas. Like it's a twerk free zone. It's a twerk free zone. Unless they play. Throw that ass in a circle. Yeah. Go that ass in a circle. How do you feel about the rash

of white girls who are twerking now? I mean, what's wrong with them? I don't like that. I don't like you taking twerking as if it's something that you invented. But I have no problem with you twerking. Like I can remember when it came a big deal when Mila Cyrus put out that video and she was in that costume and she pulled it off and people were like, oh my God, that was Miley Cyrus.

What was she doing? She was twerking. And so it's like as if they created this, you know, thing called twerking when it's like, that's just how people have been dancing for as long as I can remember. That's my only issue with it. Twork all you want. I don't care. But don't act like you created it.

It was the song actually, it's so crazy that it's so crazy the way things become a big deal so many years after. Because then when I was in college, it was whistle while you twerk. What happened to the, like, what happened to the Ying Yang twins? The Ying Yang and the Spain. They had several hits though. A lot. It defined college. Yeah, tell you a quick story real quick.

So we're in the, we're in the, we're in the, uh, we're in. We're in the, we're in Carruthers. We're in the dorms at Louisiana Tech University. It's me, my boy Ryan, my boy Justin, my homeboy A.D. Vito, who was a linebacker on the football team. Big, but one of these guys was just like a big, just amazing dude to hang around with everybody loved A.D. Vito. Right. and we all in there, you know, we listen in music,

whatever, tank is in there, a couple of the dudes, and we just putting it on. And all of a sudden, because Ryan had a playlist, we're getting ready because we're about to have some people over and stuff like that.

And Whistle Waiutori comes on. And A.D., who at this point is, I say AD is about 6-2, 240, all muscle linebacker, lost his fucking mind. He started shaking ass. And I was, and we were, and we were, when I say that we were like fucking, like everybody, we were, we were, it was scary in a way. Because we were frozen. Yeah.

Except for him. I was like, what is this nigga doing? He pulled, like, he was, he was like, oh, shit. Put his hands on his knees. put his hands on his knees, lifted his shirt up. And put a hump in his back. Put a hump in his back. Lifted his shirt up and was really,

and his shit was jiggling because he got a big football butt. And I was like, I was like, you know, you don't really want to go. You just look. I'm like, I'm like, yo, man. Yeah, I'm like, Ryan, cut that shit off, though. Make this nigga stop, bro. That's three of them, by the way.

I can't stop. I'm really going to try to stop. I'm like, yo, man, man, turn this off, bro. Like, what's going on? And it was his thing And when we cut the music off And when we cut the music off

Rage Came across his face Yo man why you cut my song off Don't put that back on bro But that that wasn't why you tore it dog That's that one's why you tore it That's that Yinyay twins I'm like

Hey man Why don't you let this dude shake his ass Before he tells the dorm apart And he really just sat there And was really So you got press play again That was our guy You know

We press play in AD shook his ass. And y'all continued to watch while he danced for y'all. And we didn't continue to watch. We turned on 2K and we tried to concentrate on that as one of our frat brothers was shaking his ass. So it's crazy. And by the way, here's another thing. But you guys don't understand. It's a lot of thugs from down there in New Orleans. A lot of thugs. Shout out to New Orleans. Then my cousins from Bat Rouge. My cousins down there in New Orleans. But it's not uncommon

with the bounce culture in New Orleans to see a man really getting it in with the twerking and the shaking. I dated a dude from New Orleans. Yeah. I never saw him do that. I'm not saying all of them do.

I'm not saying all of them do. I'm not saying all of them do at all. And he was a twin, and I never saw the twin either. But I'm saying it's not uncommon. Like big free to bounce. Big free to bounce, some of that Katie Red, any of that stuff like that, that monkey on the dick, if you throw any of that stuff on

Listen, did you, Van, have you ever done it? Or do you still do it? No, I haven't. No, I have never. But I'm just saying, okay, cool. We'll save that. I'm looking forward to The Bachelor. I feel like if I start whistling.

Shut up. You got to lose. Uh, look. Listen. Thank you for Tate for coming on the show today. Yeah, I'm happy you got to meet her. Van. Van.

Heritage is a complicated thing. Van. Van. You can't ask her to, I, listen. Can't ask her to what? She's got to represent both. That's good for her. Look, look, I personally, as a younger man

with Tiger Woods did the cockablazian thing Because he made that shit out. I was off called Tiger Woods. But I will tell you this, though. This is the thing about that. Tasha's a lovely woman. She's in control of her destiny. That's good for her.

I will tell you this. The fact of the matter is you don't get to choose that shit. Tasia as the Bachelorette can be Mexican, can be. First of all, she can be. No, she is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She is.

Shout out to all my Latinx people out there. She is Mexican. She is black and Mexican, Mexican and black. She is both of those things. And she has a rich heritage in both of those. Mm-hmm. If Tasia runs into a Best Buy. Right, right, right, right.

And grabs the TV and runs out of the Best Buy, running down the street. I bet you should be Black thing. No, absolutely. I bet, like, so, you know. I think it was context, though. I think it was just important because people will say to her, and I want to give her her credit,

people will say to her, what does it feel like to be the second black bachelorette? And for her, it's like, listen, I am black, and that is true, but I'm also half something else. I know when you see me, you see a black woman, and I own that. But at the same time, I don't want to neglect my mother's side of the family and what I am. That's where I just wanted to give her a platform to say that.

She got the two litmus ethnic groups. You got black people And you got Mexicans Shout out to my people out here They fuck with me You know what I'm saying Barrio saints I'm wearing right now This is my man Diso

Shout out to all her She got the two litters Got the best food The best culture The best dancing The best religion All of that stuff And I said that

The way I meant it The two best All right You know what I'm saying Okay About to get some angry DM Thought Warriors Thought Warriors

About to be a same Hey man I'm Romaine our shit is off the chain too you don't know anything about it have you ever been to Denmark I believe it define you the way you want to define you the way you define you fans words

take them and use them against them but just know let them sisters so would you have been mad if she said Blexican that would be aggravated but she didn't that'd have been aggravated

all right that's enough for us man we are all done here taking things capes off, but do not stop learning. It is I, Van Lathen. It's I, Rachel Lindsay. We'll see y'all next week.

Oh, no, we'll see y'all next time. Not next week. Later on this week, we'll see you. Yeah, that's right.