Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay - The Heroism of Simone Biles and Disappointment in Boosie

Episode Date: July 30, 2021

Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay weigh in on the Simone Biles’s Olympic decision and the importance of self-care (9:44), plus Cole Beasley promotes his rap album (22:17) and Boosie adds his 2 cents to DaBaby’s situation (41:13). Then it’s time for your favorite new segment, "What Were the Whites Thinking?" (58:54), followed by Mailbag Time (1:06:04).  Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Trudy Joseph and Donnie Beacham Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? Higher learning is on. It is I, Van Lathan, Jr. And it's me, Rachel Lindsay. What happened to Rachel? Rachel Lynn, Lindsay. Rachel Lynn?

Lind? Real name is Lind? What do you think? You think it's Lind or do you think it's Lynn? What do you think, Van? Well, I think it sounds like a comic book character, Lynn Lindsay. That's like the name. That's like a comic character.

coming book character that that's the, you know, I just figured out who you are. Rage, it makes so much sense. You are the alternate universe black Lois Lane. Lynn Lindsay. That's the black version of Lois Lane. That's wild. Brian looks just like Superman.

He's so serious. He's like six, four. with the chiseled type of he's Superman and you're Lynn Lindsay. You work in entertainment as a reporter. You're Lynn Lindsay. You're always... This is all true. You're always in for a good fight.

You're... Whoa, they're doing this Michael B. Jordan. They're doing this Michael B. Jordan Superman movie. Rachel, you are a perfect... Lynn Lindsay Lois Lang. You're perfect. You're perfect. Damn it, this needs to happen.

I should... I'll talk to O. How about that? Talk to O about it. Jesus Christ. That makes me feel so much better because when I was a child, people used to say my mom was stuttering when she named me. So the fact that you changed it into Lynn, Lindsay,

Lois Lane, alternate universe, I'll take that. I'll take that. Well, I mean, that doesn't mean that she wasn't stuttering. We can't be sure about that. It's just something we don't know. Van, go ahead and move forward with the next time. I'm saying, I'm saying, well, You brought that to the equation.

I'm just saying the stutter could have possibly worked out for you. I mean, it's your thing. I'm whatever. I don't know. It's an impediment. I don't know. Shout out to her. I didn't hear a stutter when I talked to her.

She's very beautiful. How are you doing? How are you doing today, Rachel? I'm good. I'm great. Oh, actually, a little bit of a scare. What happened? So two people tested positive.

at extra yesterday. Two vaccinated people. Billy Bush. And the rule is that if it's three people, then we, no, Billy's on vacation. The rule is that if it's three people, the whole thing has to shut down. But it caused such a scare because people find out when they're there that we had to go ahead and I'll work from home these next couple of days. So, you know, I tested.

I'm negative. But it's real. Like, it's one of those things where, you know, we know that it's spreading. We know the cases are going up, but it hits so close to home because it's my place of employment. And I can't function the way that I normally do because it hits so close to home. So it's just a reminder, y'all. You've got to be careful out there. It's running rampant.

Yeah, a lot of people are getting it. Like a friend of mine, a friend of mine, his wife got it. I had to test again yesterday because I had a medical procedure today. I want to hear about that. Yeah. And then so. And then a couple of people got it I think at the funeral at my dad's funeral.

So yeah, a couple of people got it. So it's it's it's it COVID spent the block block. It came back, you know? Everybody you know that got it are they doing okay right now? Yes, everyone is doing okay. I haven't known anyone that's had really severe symptoms. Shout out to my boy, Trayvador down there in Bat Rouge. He's having a little bit of a rough go-boo.

He's going to be okay. he's definitely going to be okay. But yes, I had a colonoscopy today. First of all, I'm proud of you. Not only am I proud of you for getting it, but I'm proud of you for posting it and raising awareness about why it needs to be done. Go ahead, Van.

Talk a little bit about it. I made up a song about it. You want to hear the song? I actually asked for you to talk about it. Okay, fine. I'll do the song later on. I made up a colonoscopy song, though. I made up several songs waiting.

So here's the thing. Yesterday was the colonoscopy prep. That was rough. The prep? Oh, because like you have to stop eating and stuff like that? So yesterday I was on a clear liquid diet meant I can only have water, you know, ginger ale, stuff like that. And I also had to take something called Super Prep Bowel Prep Kit. I had to prep my bowels.

So I had to take after this is a little mixture and you pour the mixture and you mix it. you mix it with cold water and then you drink it. I had to drink two last night, one at seven, and then one again in the morning. And after I had the first one, I drank water and it was an experience. You were just going and showing. That's what it's supposed. So it's supposed to clean you out?

Yeah, it cleans you out. I feel like I've never heard anybody talk about this before that's had a colonoscopy. So this is eye opening. So the prep stuff cleans you. out. I had that. Then I had to wake back up this morning because five hours before the procedure, you have to do it again. And I got, I drank the prep stuff and it cleaned me out again. And it's just, you drink it. And poor Bozeman, he's looking at me like, yo, my gee, what's wrong with you? I've never seen you in here this much. Like, I'm trying to go play with the ball. And you're just

there the entire time. And it tastes terrible. I didn't get great sleep last night. The colonoscopy this morning was pretty easy, you know? Smooth sailing. Smooth sailing. I go in there. I put the little heroin on. I do the whole thing. They,

you know, they put the IV on. Then they hooked up the, the thing in my nose. And they start giving the propofall. And I can't, after that, I don't remember anything. Yes.

I'm shocked you're here with us today. This was today? It was this morning, yeah. But aren't you like you go under for a second? So how are you like? Yeah, I was under, yeah. Well, you weren't groggy, you weren't out of it. Like you seen all this energy.

A little bit. I was a little groggy after, but shit, I ain't no punk bitch, you know what I'm saying? It's time to podcast, baby. I'm good. That was the best nap I've had in a while. Like, I napped and the next thing you know, like, I was skating with Robin. I don't know why. Like a Robin, Batman's partner, me and him were skateboarding.

Yes. And he was like, yo, man, Ben, you got to do this. You got to do that. And for some reason, I was taking the skateboarding very, very seriously. And then I woke up. Now, like, you're all done. You were with Robin. Doctor came in, gave me pictures of my stomach and my butt hole.

Weird to see. So this was your first one. Yeah, clean bill of health. Okay. Okay. Good for you. He removed two polyps. They were benign.

But everything else looked pretty good. it looked pretty good colonoscopy done you know I enjoyed it and I felt light I had a nice meal this morning that was the bowel prep yeah the bowel prep well I think they might they might clean you out a little with the colonoscopy too I'm not sure I don't know if they clean you out while they're in there just suck it out okay okay it might be it's almost time for Brian to go to get his colonoscopy he's got a couple of you're same age actually that's a you're a 100% right. I'm actually glad you said that.

He needs to get one. Yeah. Give us your doctors. Give us the info. Just text me on the side. Let me know. I'll give you the info. Shout out to them.

They were, you know, I had to put the gown on. You know, they gave me some little socks that I got to keep. It felt very cute. Then I had to go in there and I got laid down. And look, yeah, they went in my butt. It happens. But now we know that that's something that we don't have to worry about at least for now, you know? It's a thing.

You did. You were very responsible in doing that. So I'm hoping, just like you just reminded me that Brian needs to get one. I'm hoping for someone else, it puts them on notice that they need to do the same. So thank you, Van. Thank you. You're welcome. Hold on real quick. My whole setup

just fell. I see. Maybe we aren't okay after the colonoscopy. Maybe we're not. I was out in the hand of the It's too hot to be outside. My gosh. I have an umbrella for the hammock. Oh.

Yeah. I have an umbrella for the hammock. I was out in the hammock and my allergies are acting up a little bit. Bozeman, get out. Yeah, that's bad up. Get out of here, Bozeman. Look at you, you beautiful dog, you beautiful animal. How are you?

Why are you going to lock him out? Get out. Get out now. Why can't he stay in there? No, he can't stay. He's too big and he's going to run into stuff. He's a floppy animal. He's a floppy animal.

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See terms at Fandul.com slash predict slash bonus dash offer. terms. There's a lot of stuff to cover today. Today's show is, you don't feel that way? I felt like, I felt like we were light, but okay, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I skipped a few topics. Let's go. Well, let's start at the Olympics then, Rachel.

Let's start at the Olympics while I'm feeling all light and feathery. Simone Biles pulled out of the USA team final. She said she pulled out due to mental health issues. She wasn't feeling it. Her head wasn't in it. This calls a firestorm of both support and criticism. Most people were really lovely about this. Most people were really into the fact that she took the time to prioritize her mental health.

But there were some. Clay Travis lit her up. Marcellus Wiley. Marcella Wiley lit her up. All that's on par to me. So you think that Clay Travis and Marcellus Wiley are the same person? I think Marce- No, that's not what I'm saying

on par for who they are. Marcellus has some wild takes at times. Also, Emmanuel Acho, Acho watch. It continues. No, he both sides did it. He made a video, and the video gave both sides of the argument,

and then he turned it back over to the audience for them to decide. The one side had to do with the fact that, you know, she has to protect her mental health and do the things. And the other side was, I think a lot of people on this, this side of the argument is talking about the fact, oh, she quit on her teammates. She quit on her team.

She couldn't push through. And quitting is not what you should do. Simone herself has said that she is humbled by the outpoint of support that she's gotten. What was your take on the entire Simone Biles situation? Well, I hate that this is a debate. I hate that there's even a both sides of this. at the end of the day, this is somebody who is speaking at... I'm sorry, I didn't think you could hear that.

The allergies are really going crazy. Why would we not hear you blowing your nose? I have to get... I don't want to sound stuffed up. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Rachel, that was really rude. I'm sorry. I tried to do... Y'all see what I have to deal with you? Did you see me lean back?

Speaking of disrespect. Disrespect. Speaking of it. Anyways, like I was saying. No, no, no. I hate that this is a debate. This is a woman who has come out and said that she is suffering. You know, her mental health is at issue here. End of discussion. Point blank, period. Why are we determining whether that's true or not? Why are we determining or trying to determine whether or not

it's fair or not to her teammates? The woman has said she is suffering. The woman has said she's got issues, her mental health's at issue. And that's all that we should be, we should just be concerned about Simone at this point. And I think that the problem is that when it comes to athletes, specifically those in the Olympics, you see them as invincible. They are these superheroes that are the best in the world from all over the country that have made it to elite status. And you just think that they're unbreakable. And especially as Simone who every time she steps on the floor up to do the vault, the beam, the bars, whatever. She's breaking records.

She's a trailblazer. And so you really just think that she's without fail. And so to see her falter or to see her say that, you know, like I have to take a step back because I'm putting myself first rather than competition, I do think it's commendable. And I do think that she should be praised for doing that because that's not easy at all, especially for someone who's that competitive. And I saw a really interesting post from my friend, shout out to Terica Cromarty. And she posted Simone. And she talked about her daughters actually train at the same gym that Simone does. And she talked about how her kids, the daughters that are in gymnastics are actually in therapy.

And she talked about the stress that comes from doing gymnastics and the pressure that you put on yourself. Because I was thinking about this. When other sports, your goal is to win. in gymnastics, your goal is not to win, just to win, is to be perfect. That's what you're going for, is pure perfection, not to be better than the rest, not to have the better record, it's to be perfect. So I can only imagine what kind of stress that puts on you from a very young age as like a toddler, elementary student, all the way up to it as an adult competing in the Olympics.

So I just, I hope that people can stop debating this. I think this is very, there's only one side to see. and that's Simone's side. And so I wish Simone the best. And I hope that she gets the help that she needs. I hope that she's better for it. I think that she will, knowing that she can be vulnerable

because we haven't seen her do that before. And I think that her statement says it all. Yeah. She said she had something called the Twisties a little early in the competition. She says a feeling of being lost in the air. It's getting to her, it's weighing on her mentally.

You know what this made me think about? What? It made me think about this weird thought that I was having on the way driving to the funeral home out in Marigua when my father is buried. So like we're all in the car and it's a Toyota Highlander by the way. I tried to rent a nicer car, but they wouldn't let me. They were like, no, you got the Highlander, you stick with it. I was like, yeah, can I get an Audi? Because, you know, I'm coming back to Baton Rouge.

I want to stunt a little bit on people. Hey, I'm doing well now. And they were like, no, this is the Highlander. It's the only thing we have in this size. Go ahead. So we're driving in Toyota Highlander. And I'm thinking in my life, I'm thinking in my mind, I can't do anything. Like we're going to the funeral home and I'm thinking to myself,

I can't talk about this. I have to sit down and like pick out a coffin for your dad and what color is it? And like what are the roses going to be? And, you know, what high school did your dad go to? What was the social security number who were his friends? Pick out as Paul Bears. I'm thinking I can't do it. this, right? I can't do this right now. I can't. Got two of my boys with me. And I'm thinking,

there's no way I can get this done. And you know what popped in my mind? What? Strangely enough, I started thinking about Brett Farf. And I was, right? Yeah, I started thinking about Brett Farf. And I started thinking about, I started pushing myself going, you know what? you you got to do this you can do this Brett Farv went out and threw for 350 yards and four TDs the night after or the same night that his father died and that's the legend of Brett Farv as many things as Brett Farve is done

Brett Farv is a Super Bowl champion he went to another Super Bowl he was able to suck it up and go perform after his father had passed away and that's what people remember Brett Farr, for such a hero thing. So I stepped on the gas and I started going a little faster. I'm like, get there, I'm going to do this.

If Brett Farrf can do it, I can do it. I got about two miles down the road until I started laughing to myself. I started thinking, man, fuck that. Like, fuck fucking football. his dad died

it's obscene that we have laud at that moment the way that we have it's obscene I'm not taking anything away from the fact baby football for Brett Farr's his therapy was the way for him to go and get it out

was the way for him to perform and get into a whole sort of something that's mechanical that he knows something that he's familiar with the camaraderie in the locker room, everyone, because being around people, like I said,

I had two of my boys with it. Being around people makes you feel good, makes you feel a little normal, and maybe that's how Brett Farv got through it. Right. But what if that goes the other way? What if Brett Farv decides my father died,

I can't play tonight? That's just as heroic. For you to miss a Monday night football game, for you to miss a game check, for you to miss a national television appearance, for you to not do what everybody knows that you do so that you can take some time and make sure you're all right?

That's as heroic. That's just as a heroic. As a matter of fact, I would say it's more. I would say it's more because anytime you take the time to give yourself what you need, you're saving someone, even if that someone is only yourself. So I take issue with this.

like I take issue with her being called a quitter. Like I take issue with people shooting at her. I take issue with it. And I haven't talked to myself about this, but I'm disappointed. I didn't even hear what he said. I mean, he called her a quitter. I disappointed. I felt like it was a very, it was very inartful.

It was insensitive. And to even have no nuance about it. it, to have zero nuance about it, to not start a larger conversation, nobody's discounting perseverance or the ability to stick it through something that's tough. Okay? Nobody's saying that. But what I'm telling people is everybody out there, you have the agency and the freedom to define what tough is for you.

Stop letting the world define your tough and stop letting these blowhards with my microphones describe it to. If it's too fucking tough, it's too fucking tough. But why is nobody giving Simone credit for realizing that she, whatever she was going through was not at the correct level to be the best teammate that she can be for her other team members? And so it was better for her to step down than to perform in a way that didn't rise to the level and that could be detrimental to her team.

Why is nobody giving her credit for stepping aside? That's what I don't get. Because they probably don't think that anybody in that situation is going to good. They probably think Simone Biles, the 70% is better than whoever's going to come in for her at 100. 100. But that's not for them to say. And so it's like, I think it's even to add even more to her being heroic is I'm not where I need to be for my teammates.

And I would be doing a disservice to my team if I went out there and I underperformed. To me, that's heroic as well. I don't understand why no one's giving her that. Yeah. Child to Simone Biles. Look, America, black ladies don't owe y'all no flips. Y'all ain't done enough for black women for them to owe you no flips. They flip at their leisure.

Black women flip at their leisure. They flip when they want to flip. That's right. If they decide they want to flip on Monday and then Wednesday is too hot to flip, they ain't got to flip. You, America has not earned the flips of black women. Y'all haven't earned the flips. Y'all haven't earned the, what do you call it, the horse?

What do you do the thing? The horse. The men do that. The men do that. What am I thinking about? The men do the, the whatever. Oh, the balance beam. The balance beam, the bars, the floor of the horse.

The beam, the bars, the floor. Y'all haven't earned none of this. Y'all haven't even, you know what, child, America. You know what, just stop. Y'all haven't even earned the gymnastics with the. baton with the ribbon on the end of it. Y'all haven't even earned the gymnastics floor dance. Y'all haven't done that gymnastics. Black women ain't got a flip for y'all?

Y'all think y'all get flips? No flips. We should we we we should dock them flips for a year. Flip you. Flip you. Wiley. Wiley. I love you Wiley. Wiley. Wiley. Do better, bro. Come on the podcast. Get some of this smoke. Wiley, do better. Emmanuel will be watching you. All right, let's take a break. Did you know about one and three people with plaques psoriasis may also develop psoriotic arthritis, which causes joint pain, stiffness,

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Visit weathertech.com. today. The NFL is, it's in the midst of a vaccination, civil war. Ooh. Oof. It's only getting worse every week. It's something. Like Cole Beasley now. We were expecting Cole Beasley to go harder.

He made a rap song about his vaccine hesitancy, I guess. Or he doesn't describe this vaccine hesitancy. Cole Beasley, who's a wide receiver for the, for the Buffalo Bills. It's totally hesitancy. You think it's hesitancy. Let's listen. This is what Cole Beasley said. Break it down.

Cole Beasley said himself, he says, I'm not anti-vax or pro-vax. I'm pro-choice. With that being said, the issue at hand is information being withheld from players in order for a player to be swayed in a direction he may not be comfortable with.

When dealing with a player's health and safety, there should be complete transparency regarding information that is vital in the decision-making process. Without having all of the proper information, a player can feel misguided and unsure about a very personal choice. It makes a player feel unprotected

and gives concerns about future topics regarding health and our ability to make educated decisions. Now, of course, this is in response to, something that we talked about on the last podcast, which is the fact that the NFL is being pretty aggressive about its protocols for unvaccinated players. People expect it. Cole Beasley to react this way

and he's reacting this way now. He says he doesn't think that the NFL is operating in good faith with the players in terms of the information. So Cole Beasley, you said you said Cole Beasley put out a rap song, right? He did put out a rap song. It should be noted at the moment that it only has

received 2.4,000 views. Okay, so it's not really gaining traction. Wow. God damn. I'm a little shock. Jesus Christ. You're like, Rachel jump right past the issue just to let you know

nobody's fucking with Kobe's. Okay. I'm so, well listen, here's my thing. I'm so annoyed with him because he's saying that he's not anti-vax or pro-vax or however he said it. But everything that you're doing is saying that you are anti-vax.

At least you're anti-this vaccine. And the reason I bring up the song with the 2.4,000 views is because at the very end of it, he says, freedom of choice, freedom of speech, you know, talks about no freedom at all. If they don't like what I have to say, they can sue me. And in the background, you can hear,

nah, nah, nah, nah. So it's like, Cole Beasley, which one is it? You know what I'm saying? And he makes this point about he just wants there to be transparency with the information. And I guess my question is, well, Cole, what is being withheld from you? What information is he not getting that he feels like he can't make an educated decision

about getting vaccinated or not? I think all the information is out there to the public. You can research it yourself. I think the NFL has been very forthcoming about their protocols, what they require, what they don't, and the information that's available. If you want it, it's there. So I'm confused and I'm thinking, and so I'm asking you, am I missing something because he's talking about there being complete transparent,

and to the best of my knowledge, that's been there. You just don't want to take it. Yeah, I don't really know to the degree what Cole Beasley, to the degree the NFL is being transparent or not or what Cole Beasley thinks he's entitled to. I don't know. But I do know. I think it's pretty obvious that Cole Beasley is hesitant about taking the vaccine

for whatever reason that he wants to take the vaccine. And here's the thing about it. I get it. He doesn't want to take the vaccine. He might have 100 good reasons that he doesn't want to take it. That's cool. Now what, dog? Like the NFL, this issue is bigger than all of us.

It's so interesting that at a time when the country is more fractured than ever, this major issue has come that interconnects us all in a very intimate way. You can make me sick. I can make you sick. The party that I have on a Monday night can kill your grandfather. father on a Thursday morning. And the NFL has to make decisions under those set of circumstances. Cole Beasley, don't take the vaccine, cool, but also don't leave your hotel room. It's a decision that you make, yeah.

Or don't play. You already said that if you have to forfeit playing this season because you're not going to get vaccinated, then don't play. We don't need you to keep talking in the media. We don't need you to make rap songs about it. You're acting like you don't want to bring attention to it, yet you're doing things that keep bringing attention to the situation. No questions at the press conference about outside of football.

But then I'm going to release, I'm going to drop a song talking about being vaccinated right after this. At the end of the day, I don't think, like you said, he may have 100 reasons, but it seems like he just doesn't like the protocols that are in place. I mean, he even goes as far to say, talk about the testing. and he says if players, let me read this, he said, it's common sense that if a Vaxed or an un-Vaxed player

is tested less frequently, the likelihood of a player being pulled for COVID drops dramatically. And he says, in regard to that and saying that, I just want us to all be safe. What kind of sense does that make?

He's basically saying that if we tested less, then the fact that someone would test positive for COVID would drop dramatically. So then you really don't care about the safety of the players. It's ignorance is bliss. You don't want people to get tested because you don't want positive results. Forget the fact that they may have COVID.

If we're not testing it, then we'll never know and we can just keep it moving. Well, he's talking about amongst vaccinated players. So he said among vaccinated players, what do you say again? He said, it's common sense that if a vaxed or an unvaxed player is tested less frequently, the likelihood of a player being pulled for COVID drops dramatically. Yeah. Trump used to say we were over testing. Yeah.

So if we test less, then the cases will go down. Come on, Cole Beasley. Like, I just, I can't with him. I'm so annoyed by him. Just, if you don't like it, don't play. And take your chances and see if you get picked up the next season. Should I cut Cole Beasley from my Madden team? I had him.

Why was he on it? Because I needed a, like, you draft. You needed a slot. You needed a slot. You draft and sometimes I'd spend a lot of money on the defense. He was a good value pick. Wait a minute. Don't act like he can't make catches.

He used to be a Cowboys player. I'm never going to fully, I'm never going to fully talk bad about a Cowboys player. Really? Former or, I mean, unless they do something like you like Greg Hardy or something like that. I was about to say, that was the name. Unless they like Greg Hardy. Yes, yes, yes.

Don't you think that it's like, don't you think that is God's funny little joke that Greg Hardy keeps getting this ass beat in the UFC and quick fast in a hurry too he can't make it Greg Hardy came to the UFC and people were like oh shit Greg Hardy can't be stopped if you can't block him on the field on Sunday how you go block these hands these motherfuckers is tending to Greg Hardy big ass Pop, blah, blah, mop. They mopping his ass up.

Netflix is responding to the vaccinations. They said that they're going to require COVID vaccinations for actors and other Zone A personnel on all Netflix productions. Netflix has become the first major Hollywood studio to implement a blanket policy of mandating vaccinations. Now, do you? have a problem with employers mandating vaccinations for people to come to work? I don't.

You don't. But wait, let me ask this. For the new rule that Netflix is doing, is it like the NFL where if you don't get vaccinated, then you have to get tested a certain amount of times? Or it's just period if you're zone A, which means you're an actor or you do makeup or hair, you're in the face of on-camera talent. that you have to get tested vaccinated. Is it that or is there another option for it?

It's production teams and partners that it would be requiring vaccinations for everyone working in zone A, which consists of the actors and those who come in close proximity with them. So if you're working in, if you're zone A, you have to be vaccinated to work with Netflix. So I don't have a problem with it unless there is some kind of medical reason as to why you can't take the vaccine, right? I think there should be an exception to it. So if there's some kind of underlying condition that you have, that like the vaccine could possibly trigger it,

make it flare up, make you worse, then those people should be excluded from that rule. Otherwise, I'll for it. This is going to split America right down the middle. It bothers me. I'm sure it does. It bothers me that there's no alternative. Right.

So it bothers me that I would want everyone to get vaccinated. I wish the vaccinations. Well, I would vaccinate Bozeman. Okay, my sweet little, furry little baby. I love him. I would, I would vaccinate Bozeman. But forcing someone to choose between making a living and feeding themselves and doing something to their bodies that they might not want to do.

What? What taught? Hey, man, spit, spit your game. No, there's an option. You don't have to work at Netflix. Yeah. It's production at Netflix. go somewhere else and be employed on another job.

I know, but the question is the standard that Netflix sets here is probably at some point going to become industry standard. I understand that it's a business. It hasn't yet. I understand. Even SAG has another option. SAG does not require the union for SAG does not require you to have to get vaccinated. They have other options for you.

They don't make, they doesn't say employers have to require that everybody working there in Zone A or whatever has to be vaccinated. So this is Netflix doing this. It doesn't mean that Amazon is going to do the same thing or Hulu. It doesn't mean, but I would bet a large portion of the ungodly sum that we're paid here at the Oh So Generous Ringer podcast, Spotify network, that this is going to become industry standard. And if not, the fact that such a big studio like Netflix is doing it, it makes it infinitely easier. for the other streamers and the other studios to do it too. And what I would say is that I understand,

what I would say, what I would say is that personally, I understand that for Netflix, it actually doesn't have anything to do with public safety. What it has to do with is the bottom lot, the bottom dollar, the bottom line, which is that they can't have productions go completely under because people aren't getting vaccinated,

people are getting sick and productions are shutting down and whatever, whatever. But I will say, It is a moral and ethical quagmire. It's murky to me to say, get vaccinated, you can't work. Now, the NFL thing I have no problem with because you don't have to get the vax, but there are other things they just make it really hard. And to be honest with you, it should be really hard.

But to give no second option to people who don't want to take the vaccine to me, it seems it's still a medical procedure you know if it becomes industry standard then I then I then it's a problem to me but right now it's Netflix

but I did see was it was it Twitter? What did Twitter say? I believe it's Twitter Twitter is requiring it Shake shack is requiring it you can't you can't come into a shake shack or work for shakes

No industry standard though I think we're okay. Have you ever eaten Shake Chack before? There's no way Chick-fil-A is going to make you do it. No, Chick-fil-A will have, no, hell no. Chick-fil-A is going to make you show proof that you're not vaccinated. Exactly. Chick-fil-A, Chick-fil-A is going to make you produce a physical CD of the baby to get your chicken.

When you come up to Chick-fil-A, they're going to, when you come up to Chick-fil-A, Chick-fil-A is not going to give you chicken. They're going to give, or either that, or they're going to give you free chicken with every the baby physical CD that you can shoot, that you can show them. Like, that's really what the baby should do next. The baby should say,

just when we thought he would be counted out, there is an audience there, sadly. I got a 12th. People was hating on me. Now I got 12 pieces in the lemonade. You know what I'm saying? Like the whole nine. Like the whole night.

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but in actual time, those breaks don't last actually long. We go, we're breaking and then we come back. No, I'm still laughing. I was laughing during the break. She laughed the whole commercial.

The baby just pulled one of the biggest why moments that I've seen in recent years. Just why. So the baby just won't stop. He won't stop. He won't. He's going for it.

But for what? For what? That's it like what, what that? I think that is the most bizarre thing of all this. What is your purpose? What are we doing here? Right? Are you sorry or are you not?

That's the biggest question I have with all this. Yeah. So do a leapa, do a leapa got at him. Do a leaper. Somebody, one of the, I'm getting old. This is one of the, famous people who I've never heard one song or I can't name a song. Yes, you have.

Well, give me a Duolipa song. Duolipa? Um, what's a Duolipa song? Come on. You don't know the levitating song? What's a levitating? No, how's it go? Sing it. Uh, I'm levitating.

D-zun-da. I'm levitating. I don't know the rest of the words. I'm levitating. I see, I like when you get into it. That's what I'm talking about. Now, I do know that song. I just wanted you to sing.

Um, now, so do you. Now, so Duleleepal who's on the levitating song, the, who's, who's, the baby's on the remix, she came out, she got at the Dabee, at the baby, she got at the baby, then Elton John got at the baby, glad got at the baby. The baby is under fire right now.

He's under fire, not just for his remarks, but for the apology. The apology itself was a dub. He apologized in video. Then he came back again and he apologized. He apologized more explicitly to anyone who's been affected by HIV and AIDS. And then about the LGBTQ plus community, he basically, thank you, he basically said, I ain't

messing with y'all, y'all do y'all, I'm out of here. So it's an interesting thing, what's going on with the baby. Then he released the video. And in the video, once again, there is more what some people would say are homophobic signs or signs that are insensitive to HIV and AIDS, people who might be affected with he has hose up a sign at AIDS. He said, I'm on your ass like AIDS. I ain't going nowhere. It's just weird. Like we talked about it before. He seems determined to make himself the villain and all of this. Yeah, but then, and then in the video, it's like, it's directed by him. It's

edited by him. It's written, like, everything is him. And at the very end of the video, he has a message and he has it all in rainbow print. But he's like, I'm sorry for being me. That is not an apology. So that's why I'm so confused by all this. Which one is it? At first, he didn't really apologize. Then you had Duelipa step up and say something. You had Elton John and it was like, oh, man, this is becoming even bigger as it should.

So it seemed like he issued another apology because now his money was in jeopardy. That's how it felt. It didn't seem sincere. It just seemed like he's apologizing because it's becoming such a big thing. Then you come out with the video. Then you say, I'm just doing me. So what is you? Homophobic?

Is that what you're saying? Like, it's getting worse and worse and worse. At this point, I need him to just go away right now. I need you to stop talking. I need you to stop making a video, a music at this point. And I really need you to figure out what you did is wrong. I need you to understand it. I don't know if you need to talk with somebody in the LGBTQ plus community,

but you're not getting it. And maybe the reason he's not getting it is because he's also getting support from other people in the community who are justifying what he's saying, like a T.I or someone from your hometown, Abusi. Yeah, it's unfortunate. But he did get support from one place. He got support from Chris Brown. He did actually got, he didn't get support.

He didn't get scolding. He didn't get support. He got a scolding from Chris Brown. Chris Brown, a post and delete IG story that said, shut the fuck up, do your shows. Thank everybody. and get the fuck off the stage. Chris, you can never come back fully. But if you're itching your toe back in that door, go ahead, brother.

See how much they'll let you back in. You know, Chris got a lot of red. Chris got a lot of red in his ledger, but for today, Chris Brown was on the right side of history. Yeah, we call him the unexpected ally of the week. Let's just go ahead and give it to Chris. All right. Well, there goes the Savage Fenty contract.

be careful now all right so you talked about boosie this is hard for me man bootsie why why is this hard you want to talk about somebody the baby has put his foot in his mouth for a week boosey has been doing it for a decade okay i'll tell you why it's hard it's because it's hard because he's just so wrong i know him i know his brother i know his people like we like is it goes back

it's just a thing you know he ain't making hits anymore okay I'm not it's not even about the hits for me it's about a 2003-2004 Boosie it's the it's about the example at this point little Boosie a little Boosie little Boosie said this

go ahead and play it everybody not with their nephew sucking dick you know you can't be everybody not with that shit you just can't put that shit on everybody and expect it to be cool now as X say he won't perform naked

on stage for charity. You don't, you don't fuck with him. Like you fuck with the baby. You know, be even sided, man. Be even sided. You know? You don't feel that disrespect going, going dance naked. You don't think that's disrespect in front of boys who trying to be straight.

It's totally disrespect. Totally disrespect. If I'm at a wall, I said, he'd go up there naked. I'm going to drag his ass off stage and beat. his ass. Yeah. You let a nigga dance naked in front your children. You are motherfucking crazy motherfucker.

That's enough. That's enough. She wants to cut it off. Okay. So you can hear it right there. Boosie clearly, clearly say that if he was at the show, that he would beat up Lil Nasex.

So we have to draw a line here. Like, the things that Boosie said in the past have been discussing enough. But, the reality is that Boosie got to do better. He has injected violence into this. We have to, we have to, everybody has to understand

what was just said right there. What was just said, those are the marching orders of, uh, the marching orders of homophobic violence. Is, I don't want my kids to see what it is that you're doing. So I got to hurt you so you don't do what you're doing anymore.

I don't want my kids to see this. I don't want other people to see this. I don't want to have to see this. So I have to hurt you so you can't be you anymore. And then by hurting you, I have to make other people not want to be them. That speaks of Matthew Shepard. That speaks of the violence that we see against trans men and women every day. That speaks even of the suicide rates that we see in the LGBT Plus community.

that speaks of all of that he's talking directly to that if that were any other thing ask yourself this if that were any other thing anybody that has a question about whether or not that's appropriate if that were any other thing how would you feel if that were i don't know a justin timber late saying if i see another black lives matter thing in front of my kids i'm going to run up there and beat somebody up think about that man now look i'm not i understand what people people feel like they got to shot people to stay relevant people have all of these ideas you know to me i am deeply disappointed deeply disappointed man and angry that he would say that are you surprised of course not but i think of course i'm not surprised but the reality is there's this thing in me

and i and i wonder if everybody else has this thing right there's this thing in me right there's this thing in me to where I come from South Van Rouge, right? I come from a specific place, a particular place, with a particular group of people. And so what that makes me do is it makes me default sometimes to my understanding of those people and who they are when they're not saying these things. Like, God rest his soul, my father would have never said that. He wouldn't have been violent against somebody who was gay or trans. But if you got him talking about it, you would not.

have liked to hear what he said. Okay. And it wouldn't have, it might have only been accidentally hateful. You know, my sister is a lesbian and my father, it took my father a little while to come around on it. It might have almost been accidentally hateful, but it was a way that he was. And when you know the entirety of somebody, you have the tendency sometimes to give oxygen to some of their most vile ways.

and when you know that as a function of who people are, it makes you do it even more so. Sometimes you just go, oh, that's how guys like that are. They don't really mean anything. These aren't the guys that are going to go around being up gay people who are doing stuff like that. You think that all the time, right?

And you think that sometimes. But then you watch when a guy that comes from a place like that gets a massive platform. It gets a gigantic platform. It's like 6,000 people watching that live and probably millions are going to see it on YouTube. and all around the place. And then you're saying all of this stuff and it's infecting people's minds and it continues

to perpetuate ideas that have existed for generations now that are keeping people inside their skin. It just can't be tolerated, man, to Busi and to Quarry and to everybody that's over there. Look, like we're not best friends. I haven't seen y'all in a long time, but we got to be better than this. No matter where we're from, we have to be better than this. we have got to be better than this.

That's not right. It's just straight up wrong. Any way you slice it. Like Lil Nasex ain't hurt nobody. Any way you slice it, it's wrong. There's no way to defend it. It's wrong to say you're going to put hands on that man. That's too far.

It makes me love Lil Nasex even more, just the fact that he has the courage to just fully be himself when you have people like Busy or even a T.I. Or whoever else in the community, who are seen as revered in the community, who are speaking down on not what you're doing for you just being you. That's the difference in this.

He's not putting on a show. He's not playing a character. Lil Nas is being himself. Lil Nas X, excuse me, Lil Nas X is being himself. This is who he is. And for those of you who aren't familiar with Busy, this is the same man who talked about a prostitute

giving fallatio to his underage son. That was okay. This is the same man who says he doesn't want to see a man dancing naked on stage, but you got naked women dancing around you. I need y'all to understand who this man is and then hear what he's saying. And it's just such a contradiction. And I don't, it's bigger than Boosie. It's bigger than T.I.

It's an issue that we have in the community. It sheds light on homophobia and how it has infiltrated our community. And I don't know how we do better. You know, like us having this conversation. great, but how do we get into the community to where people realize that you're talking about who people are? That's their being. They look at it as a character, and I'm so tired of people acting like they're these, like a little

Naz-X is playing dress-up. He is being himself as much as I am, as much as you are, as much a busier or ti-I is. Got to be better. And do me another favor. By the way, I don't want to overstate the homophobia in the black community because sometimes we get pinned with that. We're doing better. The black community isn't like overtly homophobia. Do you think they are?

We're doing better. But when I listen to church folks, so not all church folks, but some people in the church, when I hear a T.I. and a busi get reckless with their comments. when I hear these slurs against the LGBTQ plus community, we do have a long way to go. It's in music. It's, it's, it's, but don't you think that's parts of the black community, though,

because you say it very specifically to church and places where I think I'm out here. I didn't say all of them. I said some. Yeah. I said some. I don't want to, because we get brushed with that, we get painted with that brush a lot.

And I don't want to, I know a lot of people who say, black people who say homophobic things. And you've spoken out about that as well. I'm not saying in general, black people are homophobic. I'm just saying it's an issue. This isn't the first time we've had these conversations about this on the podcast. Little Nazex has come out and spoken out about it.

The whole song was about how he grew up and now he's, you know, he had the whole thing about how he's actually being himself with. Yeah. Montero. Montaro. So it's an issue. I'm not saying that we haven't made strides in the right direction, but we still have a long way to go.

And when you have people like a CI and a Busi, you're right. Or it's a baby. It's trickling down to another generation. And Bussey's live. If you looked at the comments, people were laughing. They think it's funny. They're not taking them seriously. They're not taking them seriously.

They're his people. They don't understand the destruction that gets caused with that. You're making an amazing point. I don't know. Look, for these guys, I'm not sure what's going to. it to happen. It's funny. What's funny about it is Boussey says that when he sees if he sees

Lil Nas X up on stage and he's performing and he doesn't like the performance, he's going to run up on stage and beat the shit out of Lil Nas X. Boussey told a story about when he was inside Angola. You ever heard this story? No. Told a story when he was inside of Angola. He was in Angola for a long time.

And... Would you explain what it? Angola State Penitentiary is the state penitentiary, the state penitentiary of Louisiana and one of the most notorious and dangerous state penitentiaries in the entire country. I think there's a documentary on it.

Yeah, we're actually going to do one as well. So if you're going to look out for that, you know what I'm saying? That's dropping some time in the future. You feel I'm saying? Six feet of a few of Dutchish, you know what I'm saying? It's me, my gosh. Shout out to my guys. Oscar what is, you know what I'm saying? Two Dish and Netflix. You feel me? But he told the story. He said that

he was in the shower. He was walking to the shower. He saw a Coke can. in the shower. He didn't know that the coat can in the shower meant don't come in the shower because two men in the shower were having sex. So he walks over there and he sees the two men having sex. Coat can in the shower. He didn't know he goes in the shower and he sees two men having sex. Um, I wonder two guys in prison having sex. Did you beat their asses? It would have been a part of the story if he did. No, Lil Now Zex's up there performing doing some stuff up there on the you know that doesn't tickle your fans that you say you want to beat them up there were two guys

right in front of you engaging in gay sex did you beat them up did you fuck them up two dudes that might have been in there for doing all kinds of other things did you did you get at them just a question I got another question what up are maybe a statement little Naz X is on stage you could pull him off stage. Lil Nas X couldn't pull you off stage. He's not on any of them. Wow. You're going straight at the rap career. This story I love, this story I love Boosey y'all. Boosey tip. Y'all, y'all do better, man. It's not this is, is we're talking about hate here. We're talking about hate here, man. We got to do better. My brothers, I'm never, ever going to call

you out as much as I'm going to call you in, but we got to come together. We got to sit down. we got to talk about this because it's members of our community that need our help. And anytime we get in trouble, they all right there for us. So we got to be there for them too. This is not. This is not. This ain't cool. This ain't it.

I got to talk about somebody who I really admire. A man named Jewel Jones. Jewel Jones is a representative up there in Michigan who openly disclosed that he has spent hundreds of dollars at Metro Shrude. strip clubs in Detroit and also in Las Vegas. Jules says it's part of the job. He used campaign funds at a strip club in Dearborn to pay a bill for $221 on March 8th. And the Pantheon Club, which is the name of the place, describes itself as an adult entertainment service.

Two weeks later, he spent $696. At a restaurant and wine bar in Las Vegas, the purpose was listed as a dinner meeting with other legislators. From January through July, Jones spent more than $6,400 on restaurants for what's described as meetings, as meetings. And he also was arrested for drunk driving in April after crashing his car. I got to be honest with you, I'm team Jewel Jones. The reality is because beyond the junk, beyond the junk, driving, which is reckless and irresponsible, it can hurt somebody. Jewel Jones, when asked about this, said, you have to go to these people where they are.

Think about it. What's the biggest group of freaks that exists? Politicians. If you're trying to get something done, everybody else is looking at Jewel Jones like he has a problem. But if you're trying to get something done and you know these politicians are freaks, then why Why would you not have meetings with them at strip clubs and wine bars? Jill Jones, he's a genius.

I think he's a genius. Why do we come down on people like this? Why is a meeting at Jay Alexander's Steakhouse or Ruth's Chris any better than having a meeting at Magic City or Tutsis or the pink pony? Why is it? What's the difference? Except for a little bit of ass. I was going to say there's a little bit of a, I don't know how you can focus the same way at Ruth Chris that you can in Magic City. You're going to be a little bit distracted.

Your eyes are going to divert away from whatever it is that's in front of you on the table to your surroundings. You go to Magic City for a reason. You get an experience that you don't get at Ruth Chris. I would just say, I'm not knocking the man for going and allegedly getting business done at the same time. but I don't know how you do both. You can do both. Okay. You can do both.

I've gotten women's entire. What's his actual position? I'm not sure. I didn't even look that far. I just, I agree with who he is. I agree with who he is spiritually. By the way,

I've gotten women's whole life stories at the strip club. Their entire life stories. Like, why they dropped out of ballerina school, when they're going back to nail school, when they're coming out, with their first EP SoundCloud links. I've got all kinds of information.

Did they pull up a chair and sit next to you and tell you this story? Or were they on your lap? Most of the time, 90% of the time, they pulled up a chair. Oh, it must have been a slow night. Not even a slow night. I'm not going. I hope you gave them money for sitting there, for giving you all. You were taking away somebody else's dance.

I hope you gave them money. I'm that guy. I'm the guy. Ooh. What, what, Trudy, why are you putting information about Jewel Jones in the chat? we're trying to do goddam a podcast right here he was born in 1995 yeah jule knows exactly what he's jules born in 1995 what is jule what is he 26 26 oh jewel got a long career jewel got a long career city council jule going to redo the zoning so you know he's a charmer

youngest representative in state history i mean come on he's got he's got He's got away with words. Hey. And apparently them dollar bills too. Thought warriors. Listen. I would like the ATM receipts. I want to know if he,

I want to know if he used the ATM while he was at the Pathion Club or wherever. That's what I want to know. But wasn't he in Vegas? He was in Vegas. He was in Vegas. Maybe he was in Vegas. Maybe there was some kind of convention. Now what meeting?

Now what meeting needs to happen for a local election in Vegas? There's a convention. Some kind of way. Why are you, Jewel Jones's judge? I'm not. I'm asking questions. Yeah, like, come on now. Look, be careful, Lynn Lindsay. There's no scoop here. I'm on my Lynn Lindsay. You're right. I'm asking questions. I'm investigating. All right. Let's take a break.

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What were the whites thinking? This one is a clear one. It's very clear. Had the Internet in a tizzy. Ashton Couther and Milakunis say they don't believe in bathing too much themselves or their kids. They were on an episode of Dax Shepard's podcast

and Ashikha says this, I didn't have hot water growing up as a child so I hadn't shower very much anyway. That apparently has continued with his kids. He says, I wasn't that parent that bathed my newborns ever, Kuna says. Now that they're older, if you can see the dirt on them, clean them.

Otherwise, there's no point. Coucher says he washes his armpits and his crotch daily and nothing else ever. Has a tendency to throw some water on his face after a workout to get all the sauce out. A bunch of nasty motherfuckers. Oh, what stanking asses? Your asshole. I wonder about assholes when I think about stuff like that. I wonder about assholes.

They said they wash their private parts. They don't wash the-cotch. He said crotch. He didn't say shit about his nasty ass. Mila said her tits, her pits, and her slits. That's what she said in a thing. Tits, pits, and slits. Okay, so this proves something to me.

I always wonder, because Ashton Coochard was in a long-term relationship with Demi Moore. Milakuna's dated Justin Timberlake for a little while. Did she do McCulley Coulin for a long time? For McCullochin for a long time. Either one of those people, they were with them for a long time, but they didn't get married. They didn't get hitched. I think Ashton Cuscher was married. Ashton Cusher was married.

But it didn't last. And when everybody, when these two found each other, people were like, damn, how could these people who are on this same show for this many years just now realize that they are meant for each other? It was the fact that they had two stanking asses. And the asses was stanking. And Mila Cudas walked in the room. She saw Ashton Cush. She went, is that me? No.

It was him. And then he was going, is that me? And he was going, no, it's her to stank asses in stank-ass love. It's disgusting. I don't care.

I know there's going to be a bunch of people who hit me up and go, hey, your body has natural oils and shit like that. No, it's nasty. And it's nasty.

And they give him birth to a stank-and-ass generation, a bunch of stank-ass. So, Ashton and Mila were on my season of The Bachelorette. And I would just like to confirm, that neither one of them smelled.

You don't know that. I just want to put that out there. I do know that they were with me. We did a whole date together. But you had too much. And we were outside in the heat. You had too, but you had perfume on.

You had perfume on. We were outside in the heat. They stank. For hours, for hours, okay? Neither one of them smelled. However, this is absolutely disgusting.

And this brings up many debates that white people do, things white people don't do that other cultures do do. Now, we, I've been told, I've heard multiple times that white people don't bathe every day, but I don't really hear them brag about it. And I don't really hear them talk about how they do that with their kids. And all I kept thinking was, this is so embarrassing for your children.

At some point, your children are going to grow up and you're telling people you don't, you didn't bathe them, you yourselves don't believe in bathing every day. I have to see the dirt. What is that? Who's walking around with dirt on them all day every day? What about sweat? You don't see sweat and you sweat. It really is gross.

It's disturbing to hear. And the sad thing is they're not alone. You know, there's so many other people out there like that. This makes me look at everybody crazy. I will say this. Why tell us this? Like, why? What's the point?

I know. Well, we didn't listen to the whole podcast that this was done on. And I wonder how this came up. But the fact that they were loud and proud with it shows there's no shame in that. Hey, look, whoa. I don't want them to be ashamed of it. I don't want them to be ashamed of it. I don't.

You know what I mean? I have things like this. You know, like right now, my left big toenail Wolverine status. It's too impressive for me to cut it. I don't want to cut it because it's too impressive. Put it up in the camera.

No, I won't do it. Why? You're impressed. Because I can't show, I can't show that foot. I can't show that foot. What else is on it? So that's the foot.

So I have. have two, my feet are two different sizes. Everybody's are. Right. Well, it's a full size off for me. So one foot when I play basketball. But I won't be able to tell that if you put up just one foot. That's not what I'm talking about.

One foot is battered, battered by being stuffed in a shoe that's too small. It's like gnarled. The nails come off. Why do you go down the size rather than go up? Because I can't, I don't, so one is a 14, one is a 15. So I can't, I can't wear, if I, If I do two 15s, I'm a slide too much. Like it just doesn't work for me, even if I wear more socks.

It's better if I just do the 14, if I just wear the 14. The 14th, it feels better. It's easier for me. But what, it just one foot is all cracked up, dead skin everywhere. I call it my zombie foot. The nails, when I play ball a lot, if I play ball more than three times a week, the nails on the foot just randomly peel off. that's happened to me because of the sweat plus cracking and all of that they just sometimes

colica just hates it she'll just see me and she'll be like did you just rip the entire nail off of your toe i'm like yeah and now it is time to begin anew so look i get it i get it so people got nasty shit about them but i tell you what my ass smells like irish spring baby but your foot stain don't matter your feet smell don't Your shoes smell. By the way, I wash my feet. You're funky. I'm not funky.

I wash my feet. I wash my feet. I wash my feet. If you're, if you're not funky, throw that foot in the air. I'm not funky. Raise that foot in the air. I'm not doing it.

I'm not doing it. I'm not showing you. I mean, look, you're a lady. Your feet are supposed to be like that. My feet, I have the. Oh, that's, that's not true. Women have, women have battered feet. There's the grizzled zombie foot right there.

Oh, I didn't think you were really going to do it. What's up with that pinky? What's up with that pinky toes? The pinky toe is like, boy, boy, I tell you what, man. Screenshot that, screenshot the toes. All right, let's take a break. Transport your senses with Sol Dijanato's limited edition perfume mist collection at Sephora

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We got to do the mailback for the people. Go, go, go. Go. Play a song. Mailback time. Time to read your letters. And then we'll reply to them. Oh, it's mailback time.

Write us with your queries. And we'll chime in. Let's do it. Claudia, from Claudia. what Olympic sport would you compete in? Wait, wait, wait. Is this like what we're actually have some sort of talent in

or what we would wish to compete in? That's the question. What are you going to say, basketball? No, I would... That's your wish. That's your wish. That's your wish. Right. So my wish is track.

What could I actually compete in? I could hold the torch. That would be dope. Right? Lynn Lindsay, hold the torch. Yeah. So this is what happens. Lynn Lindsay's holding the torch.

She drops the torch. The Olympics go up in flames. Wow. People are running all over the place. Oh my gosh. It is blowing up. It'll be an Olympics to remember. It'd be an Olympics.

And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, somebody just blows all the fire out. Hi, Lynn. I heard you use a fireman. One second. I'll be right back. Flies up grabbing people. Thank you, Superman.

Hold on for a second. I got to go talk to this shit. Dude, that's how black Superman would be. Like, chill, man, I got to talk to this shit. Goes back, you're over there, and that's how y'all met. I meet at the Olympics because you almost set the whole Olympics on the way. Wow, man. Thank you.

Thank you for that. For me, it would be the shooting. Now, I can't shoot nearly as well as those guys. But if I have any skill that I'm really, really good at, and this was proven again when I went back to Louisiana is because of the two of my father, I'm a crack shot either with an open site or with my scope. You know what I mean? That's what we do, baby.

We do whatever you put in my hand, 3030, 30, 6, 7 Mac, whatever you get me, I can get busy. All right, Donnie, next question. Come on, hurry up. All right, from Stacey Miller Coontz. If you had a boat, what would you name it? I would like to think that it would be something clever. A boat?

Wow. Y'all want to come back to it? I would probably use maybe one of my nicknames or something. I don't know. Big Raysh sounds too simple. Right. Maybe the Oscar. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

That's what you would name it? Taking the Oscar because we won the Oscar. Oh, the Oscar. Come on, Rachel. Yeah. I was like, who's, I was like whose name is Oscar? Yeah. Okay.

It's time for me to go. Shut up. Give me the mailback time. Give me the next one. All right, this is from Casey or Cassie. What's the first movie you remember seeing in the movie theater? The Goonies. You know I've never seen the Goonies?

That probably doesn't shock you. That's like one of my sister's favorite childhood movies. Teenage Mutuals, Teenage Mutuals. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. When they were actual, no cartoons, like the real movie. You want to hear a Teenage Mutiny Junior Turtle story?

I don't think I have a choice. So there were these dudes. Do you ever tell you my story about my neighbors who gave me a pizza? No. Okay, so we had some neighbors that live next to us and one of the guys worked at Domino's. And, you know, we would hang out with them and we would talk about, like, I talk about wrestling with them. They watch wrestling and stuff. And one of them worked at Domino's.

And I was like, you know, I wanted a pizza from Domino's. And I was like, yeah, could you bring me a pizza? And he was like, yeah, I'll bring you one. What kind of pizza you want? And I was like, pepperoni and sausage. I was like, he's like, when you want it? I was like, well, you could bring it tonight. And he said, yeah, I bring you one when I'm coming home from work.

I'll bring one home to work. And then he, I never thought that this would happen. And then somebody knocked on the door and he was standing there with, I mean, we didn't get pieces all the time, like with the pizza. and he gave us a pizza and then me and my sister ate the pizza and our parents were fucking furious. Why?

Oh my God, they were mad. They were like, Jesus. Christ, they were like, for all kinds of reasons, you don't know what's in that fucking pizza. Maybe they wanted to poison you or do weird sex stuff to you. You never knew. So anyway, the pizza thing happened.

These same guys one time, we were out there playing and I was out there playing, in the parking lot and they were like and we're going to the movies. They were going to the movies to see Teenage Mutinyja Turtles. And they were like, yo, we're going to see the Turtles movie at Cortana at Bar Marshay. Do you want to come? And I was like, yeah.

And they were like, go ask your mom and dad if it's okay. I was like, no, it's okay. Let's go. So I got in the car and I went and I saw the whole movie. Remember, no cell phones. No nothing. Van is like nine or ten years old and he's gone for like three hours. Okay.

The time it took to get there. We stopped at McDonald's on the way back. These were my upstairs neighbors. I remember I came back. When I came back, my dad was leaning on the railing belt in his hand. So they weren't worried. They knew you were looking at. They were leaning on the rail.

Somebody had told him. They were leaning on the railing. He was leaning on the railing belt in his hand. And he was actually smiling and laughing and talking to somebody. So I guess he had been out there for a second. And I remember when I came up, I thought he was going to start whipping me. And he goes, going to house, man, this belt ain't for you. And I was like, oh, this is by the way, I've seen my dad whoop a grown man with a belt before.

But he goes, he goes, this belt ain't for you. And then I remember, never forget. The guy I listened to dudes, like, yeah, I'm telling y'all, man, y'all ain't no friends of my son. Y'all some grown ass, man, I'm a whoop your motherfucking ass. And the dude goes, I fucking know karate, man. And my dad burst into laughter. He, like, he burst into laughter. Like, he laughed so hard that he couldn't control himself.

Like, he didn't want, he didn't want to use the belt anymore. But then he did use it because he came in. I remember he just sat me down and he looked at me. He just looked at me. He was like, nigger, you crazy. ain't you? You just got in somebody caught and went cross town

for some fucking Leonardo. What's his name? His name Leonardo? And that's the thing. But I went to see it in a theater. Never regretted it. One of the best times I ever had. Never regret it.

It was a really good movie, so I'm sure you didn't regret it. But did you get to spanking? Yeah, he with my ass. Okay, okay. Yeah. I mean, it was worth it. I started building up in my mind

after some time, what was worth it? You know what I mean? It was worth it. I got my ass who was worth it. I got those guys were great. I wish I could find them right now. Those guys were great.

They were cool as hell. They listened to Metallica. Like that's how I got into Metallica. They lived upstairs. They were great. They loved me. Sometimes I think they were, I know this is going too long, but sometimes I thought they were like fascinated that a little black boy had some smarts because they would,

somebody would be walking by and they'd be like, van, van, man, come over here. Tell him about the ozone layer. And then I would go into a whole spill about the ozone layer and they would be like, tell you this fucking kid man I love this fucking kid all right no more mailback that's it oh what should we do one more should we do one more uh should we do one more

uh should we do one more sure donnie give us one more yeah yeah all right if you were able to know the answer to any question or mystery what would it be it is a good one uh damn so there's a top three for me

the top three is One. Go ahead. Okay, what's yours? No, no, no, go ahead. So the top three for me is what happened to the Mayans. Who killed JFK? The other one, I guess, I don't give a fuck about it anymore.

But so it would be between those two. And really, no, no, no. The third one would be, are there aliens from other planets? Yeah, yeah. But you have to pick one. Like, what's the most important to you? It can't be JFK JFK.

JFK ruled my life for a long time but it's probably the aliens. It's probably aliens. What about you? Oh, no. It froze. It froze on you going like this. I was trying to take a picture.

It's too late. You missed it. Which one did you say? Which one did you say? Aliens. It's going to be aliens for me. I think I want to know about like heaven and hell. You'll find out.

I want to. go beyond faith and I like want to know. That's what I want to know. There you go. There you go. All right. That's it. That fuck mailbag is done. We love you guys. Go to our

Thought Warriors, the most pop and Reddit form ever. Our Thought Warriors and also go to Higher Learning, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, all of that. Unexpected Ally of the week, Rachel? I already gave it away. It's Chris Brown. Oh, Chris Brown.

Okay, I'll go with Chris Brown too. Yeah. Unexpected. I go with Chris Brown too. Unexpected. Doubted happens again. Shout out to Christo. Now, we have, I want the audience to make a decision for me.

Okay, so full disclosure for the audience. We taped a very interesting interview with Dr. Rowling earlier this week. Dr. Rowling is a formal, he's an epidemiine. and a virologist who doesn't believe in the vaccine. He doesn't believe, not in vaccinations, period, but he doesn't believe in vaccines for this vaccine, this round of vaccines. He has a vaccine that he sort of likes. It's kind of all over the place.

Covaks kind of all over the place, but the vaccines that we took, he thinks, are useless. We filmed, we taped that earlier this week with the intention of putting it out. alongside another doctor that was ProVax. But I don't know if you're feeling this way, Rachel. With the amount of hesitancy that we're seeing right now, I'm not so sure if we should put the interview out. And we haven't discussed it. What do you think?

Well, I think you've created a level of curiosity where people are going to want to hear it. I would never put it out without hearing the other side because I would feel irresponsible. Okay. Just to be honest. Do you, are you comfortable with putting it to our audience and, and letting them decide whether or not they want to hear it? Are they going to decide if they want to hear it just by itself or?

No, just period. With, with the pro Vax. With the pro Vax. Okay. With the pro Vax. Let's give it. Let's give it to the community. Let's give it to the community.

We'll give it to the community. You guys are in control here. You guys are driving this ship. You guys have supported us for this time that we've been doing this. So it's for y'all. if y'all want to hear it we'll put it out if y'all do not want to fuck with it we'll leave it in the coffers but the audience we're going to put polls up everywhere do you want to hear what we've already recorded yes we put it out no we don't all right uh that's it take your thinking caps off but do

not stop learning i am van lathen junior and i'm rachel lynn lindsay rachel lindsay Also, as always, we have to thank our producers, Trudy Joseph and Donnie Beecham. Love you guys both. See y'all next week.