Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay - The Safer America Plan, Plus Inflation Reduction With Marc Goldwein

Episode Date: July 29, 2022

Van and Rachel break down President Biden’s Safer America Plan to fight violent crime (10:39), the latest news regarding Brittney Griner and a potential prisoner exchange (25:42), and Kyler Murray��s contractually obligated study (50:38). Plus, Marc Goldwein, Senior Policy Director for the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, joins to discuss the Inflation Reduction Act (56:53). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Marc Goldwein Producer: Donnie Beacham Jr. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? How I learning is on. It is I, Van Lytton, Jr. And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay. Rachel. What's up? It's the Thursday part.

You excited about that? Of course. I can tell you, I'm feeling a little under the weather. Here's the thing, though. Happened to you again. I've been tested three times this week. and I feel like we forget you can get sick in other ways. You know what I'm saying?

Because it doesn't matter anymore. Everybody wants to put, everybody wants to put COVID on me, but I think it's just, I literally have just a virus, like a cold or something. But everybody's like, oh, you know, it must be COVID.

Your test just must be not reading correctly. COVID, I don't have COVID. COVID came on the block, kicked the flu off the block, kick a cold off the block. You know what I mean? COVID is like the flu, don't even give me started on a cold

a cold is like Chloe Kardashian that's the third sister you know what I mean COVID came and just like this is our shit this is our shit it don't matter like nigga you got a cold

niggas going hiking fuck it who cares used to be you got a cold you took care of yourself you got the flu you took care not anymore they got the flu fucking the whole gym will get the flu because if I got the flu

If it's not COVID, I'm going out into the world. Only one thing can keep me home. It's got damn COVID. So you, you got probably like a cold, but. Cool cold. I'm out in the world. Nigger don't care. Rachel, get out here.

Get out here, man. Extra. Extra. Do you ever seen that song? No, but I like when people do it on the carpet. They do it to you? Like a lot of people come up. And you know who's the funniest with it is Clay Thompson.

So he's always like, oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, every time I check it to my hotel room, you guys are on. Shout out to Mario. And I'm like, Mario doesn't work with us anymore. I'm like, please stop saying that. He'll go out to another outlet and he'll be like, extra, extra. And I'll be like, we're over here. We're down here.

Thank you. I'm glad you're going to worry with Mario. Mario kind of a bitch-ass nigger. I'll be honest with you. Listen, we've covered him on this podcast. Yeah. Mario kind of a bitch. You know what?

You know what's crazy. He definitely does some questionable things. It's crazy. as we get older, realizing, like, who the bitches are. Because people you would have never thought would have turned out to be that way, you know? Like, so you were a fan of State by the Bell, I'm assuming. Of course. Of course.

So who else has become a bitch that maybe you looked up to when you were younger? I mean, obviously, you know, there's the main biggest bitches. You know, you got your Cosby's that bitched out. That's like, that's, I don't know what to call that. That's deeper. It's deeper. But on the level, you just, on a level where I just talk about people just, yeah, you know, you got Mario Lopez.

You know what I mean? You got fucking Tim Allen. You know? Kramer turned into a bitch for a second. Mel Gibson turned into a bitch. Yeah. You know, it's like, it's like nuts. It's like you get old.

You learn. It's like weird. Mario Lopez and all of that weird ass shit or weird ass shit. And people are like, they're bitches because they disagree with you politically? Kind of, a little bit. It depends, though. What have you been, so have you been, have you been staying inside that? No, I've been going to work every day.

They're like, you're not positive for COVID. You need to come into the job. Yeah. And I would think I would have this weekend to rest up, but the nephews are coming in town today. Alice. Sister and my nephews. Little Alastair, little Hendricks, my sister. Let me tell you guys something.

I want you guys to do something. I'm going to start a GoFundMe on GoFundMe, which is where you start them, to get Alistair a pool. No, stop. So after this last podcast, the Monday podcast, a Rimshot was Rachel, FaceTimed Remshot. And Remshot was, Alistair and them were all wet, beautiful children. Oh my God, gorgeous kids, man. Gorgeous, gorgeous kids.

And I'm like, oh, it's pool time. They like in the pool. It's pool day. It's Texas. It was probably 275 degrees. So it's a pool. And Alster goes, no, it's not pool. Sprinklers.

And I look out and there's, is this massive backyard, perfect for a pool. And I see this bunch of black cheese running through the sprinklers. And I think to myself, they got to be pool money around here somewhere. Leave my family along. They got that. They got pool money. So what I'm going to do is to start a go fund me because Alistair.

Who else was there? There was another little guy there. What was his name? Hendricks, my other nephew. Alistair and Hendricks were great names. Jesus Christ. They're going to have so many hosts. It's going to be nuts.

It's going to be stupid. Kassan's going to laugh so hard when she hears this. Alistair and Hendricks, they need a pool. This is what, see, people talk about black people can't swim. That's because we run it through sprinklers rather than getting in the pool. Weren't the sprinklers so much fun back in the day who used to rub through them? They would look like they were having so much fun, man. I would love to run through the sprinklers right now.

That brings back so many memories. This is what we used to do in the front yard, though, not the backyard. Yeah. You know what? I think about that when I see kids at like a fountain, like a big fountain or like there's this place at Universal Studios where all of these kids are there. It's like a fountain area for like for the kids to run into. And I think to myself, what would people do if I ran in that bitch? You know, I see kids playing in a fountain.

With a bunch of kids? They think you are pedophile. Yeah. It's like it's not going to be received well when it's really not that type of vibe. The vibe is I just want to go in there and have a good time. like Alistair was. It depends how you ran into the fountain as well. Like if you ran screaming with your hands up in the air,

they would be terrified. Well, how, wait a minute. What's how do you run into sprinklers? Like, what's the way that you run into? I mean, I don't know the fountains. I don't know what the fountains that universal look like. Couldn't you just walk up to it and stand in it?

No. So it's like not a fountain. It's like a kid zone. Don, do you ever be in Universal Studios out here? Yeah, I know what you're talking about. where like spurts out in different spots, right? See, see how Donnie made it spurs out. That don't sound right.

Spurts. Donnie always talking. And you're running up in it. That's toilet water, though. I'm not letting my kids run in the universal despots. Why? Really, Donnie? I think it's the same water that goes in the bathrooms.

That's definitely toilet water. Really, Donnie. Why would you say something like that? It's called super. Let me tell you how fucked up Donnie is. This is called Super Silly Funland is the name of it. I just looked it up at Universal. See, that's the little entrance, right?

And then you go in there and I'm going to show you the founts that they have. Super silly fun land is for the kids. Oh, see, there it is. That's the area. See, the little area and it's got the little found. Yeah, they're going there this weekend. Who else during them? Oh, they're going to be right at home.

They're going to be right. They're going to be right. They're going to be right at home. They're going to be right at home. running through the sprinklers. Like, show them a pool. They probably have a panic attack. They're thrilled for the pool over here.

They're thrilled. This first thing they're going to, yeah. Oh. More than welcome to come over this weekend. Whoa. Kalika! Kalika's been here. Yeah.

Okay, cool. Sorry, it's good. Kalika! You know what? Brian's going to barbecue. I'm definitely. not coming. That nigger Brian is going way too far now. That nigga Brian.

To barbecue? No, no. I'm not coming over to your house until I lose weight. You know what? I want you to see the thing. Because Brian had been in a gym in two years. He uses this one machine. I want you to come see it. Matter of fact, y'all are coming over here on Saturday. Call Call Call Cahleek. I'll tell Cah. I'm not coming anywhere. I'm like, I'm not, that nigga Brian. You walk anywhere near Brian? No, I want to be anywhere near. Brian was already in great shape. And then I look, I look at, remember that era where like L.O. Cool J was always in shape? Remember that era where L.O. Cool J just got super ripped to the next level? Yes.

That's how Brian is now. What the hell is going on with Brian? You got to come over here and see it. No. You see on Saturday. Kids are going to be in the pool. You could jump in the pool with the kids. We won't judge you.

Oh, I'll jump in. I'll jump in the pool. You know what I like to do? I like to launch kids. Throw them throughout the air so they land in the pool. So do that to my nephew. Oh, get to the other side of the pool. Uncle Van, throw you like a discus.

All right. I've been working hard to lose weight. I'm losing great weight. I've lost 13 pounds since I came back from Dallas. Are you serious? That's fantastic. Yeah, man, like today. That's great, Van.

I've already burned 1,200 calories from working out. What did you do? Boxing? You still boxing every day? Yeah, I've got my ass kicked a little bit today. I got pushing my shit. Patrick, Patrick punched me in my shit today. It was very upsetting.

You know, but I went like 12 rounds. Sparks. It's a lot. All right. We have to talk about more Biden stuff. The reason why I say more is because we just taped an interview with everybody's favorite economist Mark Goldwine, talking about Biden's Inflation Act. Okay, the inflation act to the Democrats.

We got a whole breakdown for you guys. We're going to give that to you in a second. But before we do that, the big deal of the day on the other side of this is Biden's attempt to curb crime, violent crime in America on the other side. For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters. Tramphia offers self-injection or intravenous infusion from the start. Tramphia is administered as injections under the skin or infusions through a vein every four weeks, followed by injections under the skin, every four or eight weeks. If your doctor decides that you can self-inject Tramphia, proper training is required. Tramphia is a prescription medicine used to treat adults with

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spending 37 billion to reduce gun crime. The name of it is the Safer America Act, safer America plan. And it's out here. This is going to be Biden's Big Salvo. to stop violent crime, which has been on an uptick, obviously, ever since the 2020 coronavirus pandemic broke out. Biden, of course, wants to look strong on crime so that he can court those independents and also make sure that people don't think that he's one of these defund the police who are echoes. God forbid you would be them. So this is the way the Safe and American Plan looks, which he's planned to unveil really quickly and then send up to the police. He'll to see if it if it can run the gauntlet of political bullshit. 13 billion to hire 100,000 new officers.

15 billion for alternatives to policing. 5 billion to community-based violence intervention stuff. 3 billion to work on court backlogs and task forces. There's still a little stuff in here to be worked out. We don't know what's happening here. there's a 20 billion up in the air kind of in that situation when you when you look at that because this the 13 billion that we know is is is is going to hire the 100,000 new officers

that's we know the purpose of that this other 20 billion that we're looking at we don't know what any of this stuff means right you know what I mean alternatives to policing what's that mean uh the community based violence intervention initiatives? What does that mean? The $3 billion to work on court, bat long, back loss, and task forces? How, when, why, where, where? So that stuff will probably get ironed out

as the bill goes through its political volume and people hammer out what it is that they hammer out. But there's something else that they're talking about here. Part of the bill seeks to decriminalize crack to the same level as powder cocaine.

which there's been a huge discrepancy between the sentence that you would get for powder cocaine, toot your nose, toot-toot-toot-toot-to-peat-peat-to-pean-butter. Do you know that song? No. The peanut that was on the tracks and then here comes the train, tut-toot peanut butter. You never heard that song? No. Anyway. So, yeah, I mean, that's it.

This seems to be by a bit. political maneuver by Biden to address what is growing gun crime and growing violent crime are in our American streets. Rach, are you impressed? Yes and no.

Oh. Yes, because as you just mentioned, there's certain things within this that are being proposed that are explained, which are necessary, like the crack powder disparity. I think

you refer to it as alternative policing, that you called it? Yeah, alternative. My guess is that's a response to, you know, the police being called out when there's like a mental health response or some type of public health response. On all the mental health officers, yes. So when it's not supposed to be a police officer, somebody who's more and better equipped to handle the situation, to de-escalate the situation, rather than police, which tend to heighten it, I believe that that's what's, what's that's going toward and that's great. But the no that I'm referring to is, one, there's a lot of generalizations, which you pointed out, which we don't know what that means. Safer American plan. That's the name of this. And all I kept thinking was, well, who's going to feel safe

by this legislation that's proposed? And immediately my thought was to go look at the Justice and Policing Act and to see if anything that was proposed in that act is being implemented, in this safer American plan. I don't think so. And so other, oh, did you say it's not a Dodni? It's me. Yeah, you were, I'm agreeing with you.

It didn't seem like it came from your body. Jesus Christ. Just buy, Alice or a pool and continue. You're a great point that you're making. Sick. Remember, I'm sick. You're to bear with me. Anyways, it doesn't take into consideration the things that were proposed in the justice

and policing act. the Justice and Policing Act part of that was to work to end racial and religious profiling. I'm not really seeing that in here. Banning choke holes and no knock warrants. Limiting military equipment on American streets and requiring body cameras.

Holding police accountable in court. Investigating police misconduct. Some of this, I guess, making lunch making lynching a federal crime, improving transparency by collecting data and police misconduct and use of force, so on, so on, so on. When I'm thinking about making America safe or what does it make safer American plan, who is this really trying to make safe? Why?

I guess I was a little shocked at this, that this didn't, especially the things that Biden was running on, the things that he said he was going to do, that he promised to the black community who put him in office. I, when I saw this, especially the title of it, I just knew. that some of these things that maybe you couldn't get past in the Justice and Policing Act would be implemented into this so that we as black people feel safer,

not empowering police by giving them all these additional tools. Like part of it talks about training police, training them in what way? We just covered on this last podcast what police are still doing to people in the community where we don't feel safe. We don't feel like we can trust them.

So if you're not going to implement an act that was supposed to make us feel, safe. I got to give this bill a no to a large degree because I'm not sure how this bill makes me as a black person feel safer. This is so sad for me right now what's happening because you're putting me in a position to defend the Biden administration here. Come on. Come on. Come on. Look at you. You like the smoke, don't you? People will be thrilled, though, because I feel like you're so hard on the Democrats. Look, that.

So. Come on. You like a brisket. You love smoke. All right. I've been watching, I've been watching brisket beef videos on YouTube. What?

Is this, but does this help you feel bad? Like, you said you lost 13 pounds. Like, just watching it release something for you. Fucking right. That makes sense. That actually makes sense to me. I'm clicking steaks and all that. I watch this guy, this guy, make a brisket in the

cheap smoker. There's a video where this guy makes a brisket and a cheap smoker and he's like, can we make a great brisket in a Walmart smoker? And I'm like, this is barbecue man. And I watch that whole shit. That shit was like 30 minutes long. Anyway, but I like that. You're like a brisket. You love smoke. Something Kendrick Perkins would say. So let me tell you why.

Okay. So let me tell you why I think your criticism is slightly unfair. I agree. but slightly unfair. Number one, the aim of the Violence and Policing Act and the Safe for America plan, they're different. They have two different. Justice and policing act.

You always say that. I always say violence. Because that's why I think of the police is violence. The aims are different. The aim of the Justice of Policing Act is specifically... I totally agree. Right. And so with the Safer America plan,

it's more akin to be honest with you to a crime bill. It's a bill that is addressing American crime. Now, we can argue about whether or not the best way to address American crime is more police. I wholeheartedly disagree with that. I think there are a lot of people who would. If you're asking me about this bill, the rest of the $20 billion in this bill that's getting spent alternatives to policing, $5 billion for a community-based violence intervention initiatives, $3 billion to work on court backlocks and all of those things. That stuff is just vague enough to hide the fact that this bill funds the police.

So for me, that's the purpose of the bill. The purpose of the bill is to hire 100,000 new police officers. And it's probably more of a political maneuver than it is anything else. A maneuver to show and ramping up for midterm or ramping up for a re-election campaign. That Biden actually funded the police and didn't defund them. Defunding the police. a slogan very unpopular, not just with white rural America.

We think that. A lot of people in black suburban America look at the police at safety. They must not be watching the news. Whatever. But I think to compare it to the justice in policing act is a little bit unfair

because that was specifically aimed at police dysfunction. If you include anything that that that resembles that in this particular bill it has no chance to pass because the justice and policing act has already lost so if there is to be anything let's say that they come because Congress is going to have to write some legislation about how this bill is actually used let's say that they come up with a spectacular use for the excess $20 billion that we're having here, right?

Let's say they come up with a great use for it. It establishes something. You might, around the other side, get something that resembles positive public safety measures somewhere. I don't think $20 billion is nearabouts enough, but you might get that. If you go in head first, it won't happen. And this bill is not looking to address that. It's looking to address American crime. So I don't think that that's quite a fair comparison.

Do you feel what I'm saying? So absolutely, but I'm not comparing the Justice and Policing Act to say for American plan, America plan. I'm saying when you talk about crime prevention, are we not going to include the crimes that are against black people or just people, we'll just say anybody at the hands of the police? And I guess, and I get what you're saying about it being a crime bill. So my thing is this safer America plan, all it made me. realize is we're never going to get anything close to the Justice and Policing Act, because to me, this was an opportunity to put some of it, took qualified immunity off the table. This was an opportunity to put some of those things in a safer America plan. And I think the title of the

bill could include some of these things. I don't want us to look at safer America plan and be like, wow, Biden did it and he's, you know, doing things to make us feel more safe in this country. No, he's not. And I don't feel like he should get a pat on the back for putting, implementing this because as you just pointed out, it seems to be more politically based than it is on actually putting something together on the things that you said, the policies that you, that you ran on. I just, I, yeah, so I'm not comparing it. I just feel like some of these things should have been included. And now I know they never will.

Absolutely. Like you said, this failed. This failed. This failed. This will succeed because like the Democrats do. we end up compromising to the point of not getting the things that we want. This thermometer is my scepter that I held in my hands. You absolutely did compare it, but that's okay.

Just remember. I'm not comparing. I'm saying it should be, I'm not saying this versus this. I understand. I understand. So this is what I would say. This is why the specificity of all of this stuff matters, right?

13 billion to hire new police officers, right? And to train them. Train them to do what? I know. You know, alternatives to policing. If there is a conversation around mitigating or eliminating police violence towards American citizens. And if this bill is going to at all address that, it's a proposed bill, is going to address that, this plan. Then they need to be very forthright about that.

Once again, I don't think that that's necessarily the purpose of this. But I do think that if there were compelling alternatives to policing that might save lives. If there were community-based violence intervention initiatives that could save lives. I think you need to cite more than $5 billion, but that could save lives. $3 billion to work on court backlogs and task forces. I don't know what the task forces would be. But getting rid of the court backlogs might keep people from being out of county jail for years and years and years and years

He shouldn't be in jail anyway Because they're innocent people But like county jail For years and years and years and years And might kind of You might, Khaliv Browder might be alive today If he didn't have to be on Rikers As long as what he was.

So it'll be interesting to see As far as the decriminalizing crack To the same level as Powder Coke Love it. Wall Street, watch out. Actually, it's not. they shouldn't watch out because it's decriminalizing crack. So I guess, you know, you know, it's funny. I know it's important.

But it's just funny how decriminalizing crack is a thing for black people. Why is that funny? It's funny that like somebody could sit up and say, I'm not saying that, look, poor neighborhoods, black and brown neighborhoods, crack is cheaper. Crack is sold more prevalently there. But it's just a funny situation to where a politician can be like, what would you do for black people? I decriminalize crack. That's just a funny back and forth. It's funny.

That's hilarious to me. Well, nobody else took action on decriminalizing crack. I did. I understand the whole thing before everybody gets all about. Whatever. Yeah, I'm just searching for the humor. It's funny to me. Actually, it's funny to me, dog.

All right, let's talk about Brittany Griner. So the United States of America has is officially according to reports offering Victor Boot the merchant of death

in exchange for WNBA star Brittany Griner and former Marine Paul Wheelan. This comes, this update comes a day after Secretary of State Anthony Blinkin, Tony Blinkblink's said that the Biden administration had made a substantial proposal weeks ago to bring home the two wrongfully detained Americans.

Our governments have communicated repeatedly and directly on that proposal. Blinkett said Wednesday. A potential deal could see the U.S. offer to exchange convicted Russian arms trafficker Victor Boot for Grindr and Wheelen's release. No agreements yet. The Russians have assured us that there are no agreements. yet, but that is look, that looks like the trade. That's the trade.

Brittany for Griner and Wheelan and four future prisoners of war. Rachel, your thoughts? Wait, wait, wait. Four future prisoners of war on whose side? That's a fucking joke. Okay. I was making a goddamn NBA NFL joke. We're not, we don't trade future prisoners before.

That's hilarious. I was like, Donnie, I want, whenever we have a moment like that, I want a rib shot. Whenever a van, whatever van is tripped up, Rachel. That's like, wait, what? I was like, what is this? I've never heard this. Okay, this is tough. Yeah, you know what the answer is.

Give it to me. Don't bullshit. You know what the answer is. Listen, guys, the merchant of death. He was arrested for, the conspiracy to provide material support or resources to a designated foreign terrorist organization conspiring to kill Americans, conspiring to kill American officers or employees, and conspiring to acquire and use an anti-aircraft missile.

That's just some of the charges. All right. The Russians want him back. All right. So let me tell you about Victor Boat. Go ahead. Because there are movies and I believe there's a movie in a book. There's a movie with Nicholas Cage that were actually kind of whitewashed Victor Boots entire life.

Set the same. Let me tell you a little bit about Victor Boot. Okay. Here's the situation. Around the time that the Soviet Union fell, Victor Boots started an import-export business. That import-export business was legit. It was importing things, exporting things. He made a ton of money.

Made a ton of money. What he then started to do was understand how to move things around the country. Or excuse me, around the world. Victor Boat is not your normal everyday arms dealer. He had 60 planes in a fleet of planes in order to deliver his arms. One U.S. official said that he single-handedly changed war on the African continent from what it was before, which was guys fighting against machetes, we're fighting against each other with machetes,

you know, a lot of hand-to-hand combat, stuff like that, to children walking around with AK-47s blowing each other's heads off. He was one of the primary weapons distributors to Charles Taylor in Liberia, who was a gruesome, gruesome figure that was on trial for war crimes back in the day. He helped arm civil wars, scrimages, warlords in Rwanda, Congo, Liberia, all over the world. A vicious, vicious, vicious, dangerous man. Dangerous man. The world will be a more dangerous place with victory.

Bood out. He was arrested in the year 2008. He started serving his time in 2011 because the DEA went on a very intense sting operation to get him in 2008, which included multiple trips around the world to convince him to engage in a $12 million deal to supply South American rebels with the arms they needed to kill Americans. There was a meeting in Curisal. They went to the meeting. Fischer could make it or the meeting got fucked up. They changed the meeting.

The meeting was then overseas. And when he came to that meeting, they got him. Three years, the Russians fought for him. They fought to keep him out of jail. Vladimir Putin has been protecting him for a long time. By the way, among his clients were the Taliban as well. among his clients were the United States of America who bought arms, they say, unwittingly from this guy during the Iraq War. Okay, this is a deeply dangerous individual who has more blood on his hands and his conscious than most people could ever hope to accrue in a hundred lives.

They should not do this. Which was my point. Like, they, they, I don't know, I don't know if I know people will say, I'm sure it'll be a conversation on Reddit, you know, like, well, what would you do if it was your loved one? What would you do if it was your, you know, like your significant other, your sister, your cousin, your friend overseas? I don't know. I'm not in that situation.

I know exactly what I would do. I would be slamming the table for them like, pounding the table for them to be released. I got mad people I love that's in jail. We have to look at this as well. And just today, there was an American in Russia that was sentenced. I sent this to the group chat that was sentenced to 14 years in prison for 20 for having 20 grams a weight. This is a school teacher that teaches English over in Russia since the 14 years for 20 grams a week.

That is by our standard of justice, really in my opinion, by any standard of justice, egregious. It's egregious. It's egregious to have that happen. The problem is that's, when you enter into their country, you're subject to their laws. Sure. What happened to Brittany Griner is an injustice through the purview of American justice. It's injustice through the purview of what we think is overall fairness. Now, because Brittany Griner, who I desperately want to come home, anyone that's in a foreign jail, anyone that's in jail, period, actually not some of you, niggas, anyone that's in jail, period, I more than likely want you to be home. But the reality is, the world is going to be a more dangerous place for a lot of people,

particularly some Africans, because Victor Bout is released. Not only that, but one of the reasons why the Russians probably want him back so much is because they want to pick his brain for the information that he might have regarding either how American intelligence works, whatever they asked him, how they interrogated him. They are playing a big fucking card to get him back. And to be honest with you,

this situation is all fucked up. Everybody who's wearing an IMBG shirt, you should keep wearing it. Everyone who's talking about that, the raising awareness to get the government to try to do as much as they can to get Brittany Grinder back they should be doing it but to be honest with you everything that happened here was avoidable if she would not have broken their loss yeah this isn't the answer and i do believe the other danger in this is that this is a slippery slope right you just mentioned the teacher

who last year uh was arrested 61 years old has been been over there. Family hasn't had, can't get in touch with him only through Russian letters that are written in Russian. Like they haven't seen him. They haven't laid eyes on him. But now Britney Griner and Paul Wheelan are coming home. But that prisoner is still over there. It's a slippery slope of what you're willing to trade. And for, you know, an American who, well, Paul Wheelan's not in that category, but American who commits a crime and wants to come in a different country and wants to come back here. I think this is a dangerous slope that now people are going to look at presidents and administrations and expecting you to do something. If you're willing to let somebody this dangerous out,

where does it stop? Yeah. Look, I'm not sure. Obviously, there's been violence all over the place in some of these places that he funded and he gave weapons to since he's been away. So it's not like they put him in jail and got all the violence. I'm not saying that whatever. But still, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, For all my abolitionists, friends out there. I understand that you guys don't like prisons and jails. But if there's anybody who needed to be in a prisoner jail, it's this guy. This guy, we're talking about the invention of the modern child soldier, the kid walking with the AK-47.

This guy probably had, most likely sold them the AK-47. We're not talking about thousands. We're talking about tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands. We're talking about so much damage to the to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, of, to the world landscape. And he is coming home because Brittany Griner didn't understand the ramifications of bringing a vape pen into a foreign country. It shouldn't be that, that, it shouldn't be that severe punishment. But there it is.

So I encourage everyone, if there's a lesson to be taught from this, Britney's coming home. If they make this deal, she'll come home. I'll celebrate along with everybody else. It's just to be honest with you, this guy shouldn't be getting out. And this is what I'll say. As Americans, we should not be so arrogant to try to do shit in other countries that doesn't fly there because it flies here. Like the celebrity that you have here, sometimes, the access that you have here, it doesn't exist anywhere else. When you go to somewhere else and you're in somewhere else, don't let your idea.

of American freedom or American exceptionalism cloud you to the fact that then people will put a fucking booing your ass if you fuck with them. And that's not just in Russia. That's all over the place. It's people that like, it's people, you watch Locked Up Abroad that fucked around in parts of Asia, that fucked around in parts of South America

and we're expecting in some way for some justice system to come grab them. I'm not saying that Brittany Griner is a drug trafficker. She's not. But what I'm saying is that if you're going to go somewhere, part of keeping yourself safe, is making sure you don't make these types of mistakes because now there's a whole international

incident. LeBron James is saying crazy shit and one of the most dangerous arms dealers on the history in the history of planet Earth is coming out. He's getting out of jail. It's whack. Yeah. It's wild. Nuts.

Nuts. Do you have online bill pay? Yes. How do you use it? Tell me about your online bill pay experience. Like automatic debit. Does it just debit? Yeah.

Every month it's set to a certain, like however you want to set it. And every month usually is when they take it out automatically. What are you about to tell me? I don't like automatic shit. You don't, but here's my thing. I can't remember every single thing that's supposed to be paid every single month. So it's nice to not have to worry about that. Man, I'm going through some financial shit, man.

I got like this big check. It's like $100,000. And I did. I got this big check. I know. But why are you telling everybody this? Because I got to, I have to tell people this story. So I got this big check. The check goes into the bank. I look back like five days after. it's all gone. The lawyers got paid, management got paid,

the financial people got paid, and then they put money in different tax accounts out of that big check, $104 ended up in my... So I have to call people and say, yo, that's wild. I don't know what kind of setup you got. I don't know why you got all the people on your team and who all you're paying.

But that's ridiculous. So we have to streamline it a little bit. We're going to streamline it even more. But I've decided that because it is, no more automatic shit. Nothing automatic. Yeah, that's insane. No auto pay. No auto pay.

I'll sit here with a fucking one of those little visors and a calculator with the little paper that comes out of it. You don't have to do all that. And calculate all of that shit before I give a motherfucker. Hell no. trying to play me trying to play me you can't play the kid anyway

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You happy now? Am I happy? Listen, isn't that the purpose of, well, I guess politicians will say the purpose of the January 6th committee is to, you know, let people know, inform people of what happened, leading up to it and right after it and to be transparent with everything that went down. But I would also say the goal was to get to the point of investigating. the DOJ having to investigate him for possible, possibly committing a crime. What's the point of going through all of this if we're supposed to be shocked because they might hold somebody accountable? Well, there is a sector of people that would be shocked by this.

There's a sector. Who was it? What coach is it who just totally was just like, oh, that thing that happened on January 6th? Jack Del Rio. Thank you. People don't. There are. There's a sector of people.

who don't think it's that big of a deal and are like, why are we still doing this? Why does it matter? So I do, if I do applaud the DOJ for this because that was a big deal. And there should be repercussions from it. So yeah, I hope that this moves forward. Do you think, do you think that Jack Del Rio is related to Vanessa Del Rio?

Who's Vanessa Del Rio? Hmm. Hold it real quick. Donnie? I don't know what they did. Don't look it up. He said he didn't know. He said he didn't know.

Neither one of you guys look it up. You guys don't know who Vanessa Del Rio is. Interesting. I want a poll, because I haven't been already in a long time, I want a poll of people who, when I said that, knew who Vanessa Del Rio was without looking it up. I want to know how many people knew who Vanessa Del Rio was without looking it up. Let me ask you a question. Who do you think Vanessa Del Rio is, Rachel? No, I don't want to do that.

Donnie, at this point, you should have already privately sent me a link to who Vanessa Delrio is. See, I don't even know if I should be looking up this person on my work computer or not. That's where my mind is. You're so right. That's exactly who that person is. One of the greatest of all time, baby. One of the greatest of all time. But wait.

You must have mentioned her before because she was searched in my Google. No, Brian doesn't have access to it. He doesn't have. Whoa. He doesn't. But why won't it let me click on her name? Wait, I'm afraid of what I just. Brian, and she's a Latina too.

She's a spicy. She's a spicy Latina. No, he doesn't have access to this. You know what it might have been? It might have been that you were looking up Jack Del Rio and then you clicked. Look, well, then you got to tell me. What is she famous for? What you mean?

What is she famous for? I'm sorry I'm reading what I'm looking at. Damn, she's 70 now. Boy, my formative years. My formative years. She's got Vanessa Del Rio has. If she's 70 now, she had to have been, what, 50 when you were watching her? Nah, man.

It was like, it was really more rest and peace to dad. It was really more. Dad, it was like the 80s, man. So she was like in her 30s, you know what I mean? So you knew what your dad was watching? Yeah, I found out. I never told you this story? No.

So look, check this out. So I never told this story before. Donnie, I never told how I first discovered. Otherwise, we would know who she is. No, I'm talking about just porn, period. I never told this story. Okay, so I was a kid and I was trying to watch WrestleMania. And so I had tape WrestleMania.

You used to buy these blank tapes. somebody's blank tapes and the blank tapes I remember the tapes because the tapes had you can get three hours quality you get three hours in high quality and six hours at kind of like whack quality when you was taping you know it's just tapes six hour tapes three hour tapes

so I had a six hour tape of WrestleMania it wasn't just WrestleMania it was all kinds of different wrestlers stuff I had taped and I wanted to watch it in the front and come home. I'm going to watch this in the front. But I can't because the fucking, every time I put the tape in,

it just ejects back out. It plays for like a second and then it ejects back out. The tape is dirty. We don't have any head cleaner. So VCR's rickety. We used to have to go through so much for entertainment back in the day.

You did. So much. I had to go to Blockbuster, get the tape, which was great. Bring the tape back home. Put the tape in. Now I just hit a button and it comes right to me.

It's so weird. Anyway, so the tape won't work. I got to fuck, I want to watch WrestleMania. The only other VCR is in my parents' room. So I go into my parents' room. I'm not thinking of anything. I go to try to put the tape into VCR and watch WrestleMania. And there's a tape in the VCR.

So I eject that tape put on top of the VCR. And I then take WrestleMania and I put it in. you know, watching WrestleMania, Owen Hart, whatever. And like, I swear that the light

hit the top of the tape that was on top of the VCR in a certain way. It was a gold label and it shimmered. Oh my gosh.

And that was Satan. Satan was like, hey. It was the forbidden fruit. Play me. Play me, little nigga. Play me.

And I'm like, what is this sort of goal? Because they don't say Beverly Hills cop or nothing on there. It's fucking Eddie Murphy Raw. So I pop WrestleMania out. And I put it in. Ha ha. I put the tape in and played it. And it was fucking going down on the tape.

13, 12, 12, 13, something like that. It was fucking going down on the tape. there was no sharpshooter was no whatever it was fucking going down Vanessa Del Rio was in that video and then once once I would see

it was Vanessa Del Rio Vanessa Del Rio you know what I mean So that was actually That was actually not the 80s But I went back And the tapes were from the 80s Vanessa Del Rio

She was one of the ones She was Vanessa Del Rio Ebony A's Jimmy Z And then the later the later class Janet Jackme okay

Madori Diana DeVoe obsession anyway it's over now that part of my life is that part of my life is over by the way

that part of my life is over I don't like I have let me say something people don't even give me I don't get credit for the stuff that I do that's positive right I don't

I don't get credit I only get destroyed for For stuff, I don't get credit. I've stopped with the porn stuff. I've stopped with it. I don't get credit. That's great, man.

Congratulations. You don't care. No, I do care, actually. I actually do because now that I hear a story of how this started at 13. And it carried into your 30s, late 30s. Yeah. I have to congratulate you for kicking that addiction. I'll be honest with you.

It was funny when I, when I was. It was 40. I was, I was, I was, I was saying, when I went to my dad's, to clean out my dad's, his shit after he had passed on, I went to the top of his, of his, like, closet. And I was pulling stuff out of the top of his closet.

There it is. Big butt bonanza on CD. This nigga was still doing it on CD. His nigga was on CD, DVD, big butt bonanza, big butt lesbians or whatever the fuck. I'm like, damn. same old pops same old pops but look

the hardest thing about kicking it though was was making my devices not suggested you know what I mean my devices no I don't know what you mean what do you mean your devices

my devices the algorithms they know me so because of your searches yeah so I'm trying to get away from it and they're like they just like the tape they're like van van you get pop-ups on the computer

Not anymore because I've been going, I went, because it's too long, but it used to pop up. You want to look it hot, hot. No. I'm proud of you, man. I am proud of you. This has been a lifelong struggle for you. Yeah, it matters. All right.

You know who doesn't have much to worry about? Kyler Murray, $230 million. I have to ask you if you feel like this is a problem. Kyle Murray is the tiny little quarterback from the Arizona Cardinals. Please don't do that. How tall is Kyle Murray? Is he the same high as Russell? I think he's shorter than Russell.

I believe he's listed as 510 though. Yeah, he's an amazing athlete, like super quick, rocking arm. Great athlete. But he, five-year, $230 million contract. God, damn. Go ahead, brother. But he has to do at least four hours per week of self-study. It said he will not get credit if he's studying or watching the material, plays on his tablet, or if he's doing something that can distract him,

such as playing video games, watching TV or browsing the internet. If he does not do this self-study, he is in default of his fucking contract. shit $230 million if you don't do do your homework he had a press conference a lot of people like this is all fucked up he did a press conference

this way he said in the press conference today I'm starting off I'm talking today because you know I feel it's necessary you know with what's going on as far as regarding me and the things that are being said about me

it's it's almost you know to think that I can accomplish everything that I've accomplished in my career and not be a student of the game and not not not have that passion and not not take this serious is is almost it's disrespectful and it's it's almost a joke you know it's to me it's um I'm flattered you know I'm flattered that y'all think that at my size I can go out there and not prepare for the game and not, you know, not take it serious. It's disrespectful, I feel like, to my peers,

to all the great athletes and great players that are in this league, this game's too hard. To play the position that I play in this league, it's too hard. First of all, I didn't know that's what he sounded like. Second. That's exactly what I would expect somebody who just signed a five-year, $230.1 million deal to say.

What the hell else is he going to say? He signed it. He was aware of the clause. So whether he agrees with it or not, at the end of the day, the moment that he signed it, he ultimately decided to agree with it, which means he had to state that in front of other people when people would critique it, which is what's happening now. I would be curious to know if this is ever done before. If it has, it can't be common.

But I don't know if this is a one-off or if this is something that is going to be routine as we see these contracts get bigger and bigger and bigger. I mean, ultimately, it's only going to help him, but is he being unfairly judged, not judged, but is he being unfairly treated compared to white quarterbacks? I don't know. I don't know the answer to this. Well, it's been a tough little go-round for black quarterbacks just here recently. Of course, the Lamar Adam discourse about the contract and what he deserves is coming up.

And then there was one executive, a defensive coordinator said that Jackson would never be a top-tier quarterback and that Patrick Mahomes played streetball. See, when Aaron Rogers moves throughout the pocket and find somebody, he's emperative. improvising. But when I never does it, he's playing streetball. Streetball. Look, I don't know if they make you study. I do know one story about Jamarcus Russell. The test? No, Jamarcus Russell, it was alleged that the Raiders sent Jamarcus Russell home with Gamefilm and asked him if he watched it the next day. And he said, yes, when on the game field was like cartoons or something like that. And so he wasn't, that's a real story that they say happened. Is that what was the downfall of his?

Don't matter. LSU legend, number one pick in the draft, don't matter. Don't matter. How about that? Don't matter what happened. He got his money. You've seen him on the positive. Don't matter.

But look, my whole thing about this, a lot of people were upset saying that they're essentially telling somebody that works as hard as Kyle and Murray not to watch video games while he's doing it. He signed it. He signed it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. He signed it.

And honestly, out of a whole week, it's only four hours. It's a long time. If that's what it takes to get that kind of deal, I mean, maybe he is being sure. I mean, listen, if other, if we'll see when there's another white quarterback out. Like who, who are the highest paid quarterbacks right now? Who just signed a, who just signed a big? Deshawn Watson just signed a big deal. We'll need to cover that in the next couple of weeks.

Yeah, Deshawn Watson signed a big deal. Deshawn Watson, you got. Tyler. His clause says four hours of rape free time. Let's move on to the next topic. What? His four hours that he can't sexually assault any masseuses is what his contract says. Just four hours. That's all they need.

Obviously, that's all they need. Obviously, that's all they need. Just four hours of not sexually assaulting. We're going to have to tackle that one later because that is, that's a whole other story. Okay. But listen, if this is something that's put in on him and not on anybody else, we have a problem. But at the end of the day, this man is getting paid. He deserves to be paid.

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there can only be one thing that Americans want to hear about, and that is inflation, which still plagues our economy hitting a lot of Americans out there right where it hurts and although gas prices seem to have been dropping very recently inflation is a very, very real thing

for a lot of Americans. The government, Rachel, the government, that's my granddad would say, has taken action. They've taken action. They've managed, since Democrats have managed to

actually do something. They're talking, what is the name of this? It's the, uh, inflation reduction act of 2020. The inflation reduction act of 2022. They,

it seems like the people up there on Capitol Hill or, or taking action. We know about inflation. We got a crash course on it from our friend Mark Goldwine. Okay. But in order to understand this bill and whether or not it's really going to bring some relief to millions of Americans, we have to.

bring Mark back again to discuss it with us. Mark, how are you doing today? Senior Vice President and Senior Policy Director for the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget? Mark. Yeah, thanks for me. I'm doing pretty good. This is one of those rare times that Congress is actually trying to, you know, make the deficit better. So this is like Christmas and New Year's all wrapped together for me. Oh, wow.

Are you familiar with this piece of legislation? I am. So they're still working at some of the details. We haven't seen how it's all going to play out. But it's basically a climate and energy bill, a health care bill, and a tax bill all put together into one. What's the goal of this bill? Yeah. So there's not one goal, but they've really narrowed it down. When they were starting this conversation a year ago, they had like 80 different things they wanted to do child care and tax credits and health care. This bill is focused really on a few things. clean affordable energy, right, to get climate change under control. Two, affordable health care.

Three, fair tax code and four, get down inflation and deficits. And it's really narrowly focused just on those four goals. So for somebody who like doesn't understand any of this, how does this bill help inflation? Yeah. Right. I'm seeing the energy. I'm seeing health care. You know, I can't remember the other thing you name, but like, how does this help me as an individual when it comes to what I'm dealing with with inflation? So, first of all, I manage your expectations. This bill is not going to do anything for the next two months, right? I mean, this bill is actually going to take time to actually spend out go into effect.

Because of some side agreements, it's going to allow the administration to maybe make some regulation changes that can move faster. But this bill is about 2023 and 24 and about stopping inflation from staying embedded beyond that. It's not about 2022. But there's really two ways that it's going to fight inflation. The first is it's going to take some money out of the economy. We talked about this last time.

Part of the reason inflation is so high is because there's so much money sloshing around and we can't produce enough to me yet. This is going to take some of that money out by a little bit by spending less, a little bit by taxing more and getting people to pay the taxes they already owe. The second way this is going to reduce inflation is it's actually going to directly reduce the prices that people pay. It's going to reduce the prices that people pay for their prescription drugs. It's going to reduce the price of health insurance if you're buying on the Obamacare exchanges.

And it's going to reduce the price of renewable energy and various types of energy things, both for business individuals. If those prices are lower, people's expectations for inflation will go down. They won't demand as much in wage increases. Price increases won't go up as much. And so that can help prevent what we're really worried about, which is not just that inflation is to be high now, but that it's going to continue to stay high for many years. I mentioned that gas prices have come down, and I can see that. Hey, look at that. Look at that.

What do we attribute that to? Some of that, I think, is just the market settling itself. Some of it is demand is down. People are driving a little bit less responding to those price increases. Some of it is that the administration plans to release more oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve is working. And some of it is fracking, is that we're actually producing a bit more. So it's not one factor.

It's a bunch of things working together. It's a relief. It's great news. I wouldn't count on prices continuing to fall. Hopefully they will, but we could see several times them bounce back up and then come back down again. Do you anticipate that happening here in the near future, or will they continue to fall for a while before that happens? You know, predictions are hard, especially about the future. What I'm most worried about is the end of the year. Europe has sort of a threat to tighten its restrictions against Russia even more at the end of the year. And if they follow through in that threat, it may reduce supply some. So my biggest fear is that come January, prices are going up again. But in the coming months, I think it could go either way. I'm hopeful prices will continue to decline. But I wouldn't, I wouldn't bet a lot of money. on it. You described this as Christmas and New Year's wrapped into one in July. Will this bill

save us from a recession? I hope so. Look, this bill alone isn't going to save us from a recession. What I hope is that it can help. The real fear here in it for a recession is that the Federal Reserve to fight inflation is just going to keep raising interest rates higher and higher and higher. And eventually when they do that, it's going to topple the economy over. This is going to help because it's going to make the Fed's job just a little bit easier. Maybe they have to do one less rate hike. But if we do this and we do some energy policy and we do a variety of other things, good health care costs under control, maybe that could prevent two or three hikes. So I'm hopeful this reduces the chances of a recession and that combined with other things can keep us, can keep us out of a recession and keep the economy

moving strongly. Mark, I got good news for you. You've just, been made chairman of the Fed. What? What further would you do at this point to bring American some relief and how aggressive would you be? The Fed is in a possible position right now. They waited too long to raise rates. Fiscal policy put them in a corner because we spent $2 trillion into the economy didn't need. And so if they raise rates too slowly, the risk is that inflation gets embedded, is that we have inflation year after year, and it's actually harder to fight later. On the other hand, if they raise rates too quickly or too high, they put us in a recession. I think right now they're doing the right thing by erring and being aggressive. Now, hopefully,

we see a couple good CPI numbers. I think that's inflation, a couple good inflation numbers. I think the numbers we see tomorrow, we're going to be ugly, but then the numbers that we see next month may look pretty good. If we start seeing a few of them, I don't think they can put their feet on the brakes, but maybe they can take it off the gas a little bit. Maybe they can slow the rate of rate increases. But the Fed, unfortunately, is going to have to keep raising rates until inflation seems like it's under control.

Mark, I know you said you feel like this is a win, you know, because they got something actually passed. But there are people who, you know, are upset with this. And they feel like they left out mini-key policy ambitions, particularly from the Democrats, such as new child care or housing or elder care or paid leave programs. Assuming you agree with that or not, what else do you feel like they left out of this bill that could help the American people when it comes to inflation?

Because some people are saying it's not even an inflation bill. They're naming it something different. They're calling it a climate bill. Yeah. I mean, that's a great question. Remember, the bill still hasn't passed yet. So I don't want to jinx it. But hopefully it will pass.

Certainly, we could have done more. Certainly, this bill could be stronger in a lot of ways. I don't think going back to the thing from a year ago, I don't think that's a good idea, let alone sustainable, because I think there was too many policies altogether, and it didn't let us focus on making any of those policies particularly good. But I do think there's a lot more we can do to lower health care costs, a lot more we can do to raise more revenue.

Some of the ideas were in this bill in late stages and then got dropped. There are certainly some areas where we should be making stronger investments. I personally like a carbon tax, you know, put a price on carbon. That's a two for one because not only does it raise us more revenue, but it also helps encourage private sector innovation to get a cleaner environment. So I certainly think this is not a perfect bill, but if we wait for a perfect bill, we're not going to get anything. This is a big step in the right direction if you're worried about energy, if you're

worried about climate, if you're worried about the deficit. And frankly, I'm worried about all three. So yeah, it's time to worry about the deficit because there's a Democrat in office. There's a Republican in office. They spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin and never bring up the deficit. When a Democrat gets in office, it's time to watch the purse strings, Mark. Well, you know, some of us wrote 100 pieces against the tax cuts in the last administration. I hear you, but I promise you I'm always worried about the deficit.

So look, Mark, I have to tell you something. You're a big hit with our fan base. Big hit. But there are some that took umbrage with a couple of things that you said the last time you were on here, Mark. Which is normal. They do this to us all the time. They do this to us. Mark,

I was it my weekly vodka purchases? No, it was the fact that some people say that you have a neoliberal worldview that encouraged you. that encouraged you to blame the people that were on the receiving end of the stimulus checks for our current recession. And that's current, excuse me, our current inflation situation. And that it's not fair, it's not right,

and that it's statistically wrong. Liking you to Bill Maher. Ooh. What do you say to those people? What do you say to people who think that working Americans, are unfairly taking the brunt of the inflation discourse that we're having right now. Yeah, look, I don't blame the people who received rebates, many who needed it and who spent it.

I blame the politicians that overpromised and then delivered too much, not understanding that there would be consequences. I think that it seemed like in spring of last year, we could just spend whatever we want, and it would all be good. What we don't realize is that all we did was actually raise prices for everyone in the process. So I hear that. I think there is some rhetoric that sort of puts the blame on workers,

puts the blame on the recipients. That's not how I see it. This was a failure of leadership. Mark, here's my last question. Will paying my student loans help inflation? If you are paying down your student loans instead of spending that money on, you know, buying a sofa or going out to a restaurant, that will help for inflation.

Damn it, cut that out of the podcast. Cut that out. If I were you, I wouldn't be paying my student loans because they're not charging you any interest. I put that money into by series I bonds. I think we mentioned that last time. But put the money into a bank account. You can always pay it down later. So if I were advising you individually, I would say don't pay down those loans.

But for the economy as a whole, if people would start paying down the state, student debt, even without the interest accumulation, that actually would have up with the inflation situation. All right. Last question for me. There's been something that's been going on, Mark. And I got to be honest with you. It's funny.

It's funny to me. I remember it was around like 2018, 2017, maybe. Actually, it's not true. The first time I ever heard of Bitcoin, it was 2010, my friend Christian. We were making this web series together. And Christian goes, Van. should buy some Bitcoin. I don't know what the hell that is.

What are you talking about? You know, maybe I should have bought it. But I didn't. And then by the time 2018 comes around, everybody is going nuts. Ethereum, light coin, Bitcoin. And then all these coins are going crazy. It's going through the roof. Oh my God.

Coin, coin, coin, coin. $81,000. Boom. $70,000. Where it's going nuts. Now these motherfuckers are sad, Mark. They're sad. They're calling me.

doing fucking what's his face Elon Musk the wife Steeler they Tesla just sold off like 70% of its of its of its of its of its Bitcoin I'm asking you crypto legit

or quit You know I said before I don't get financial advice I never really understood the appeal of crypto But I also never understood the appeal of pods or magic cards Or You bite your tongue. Magic the gallery was amazing. So, you know, I'm just not a collector.

I think that's kind of how people view these. I will say I first heard about Bitcoin when my dad decided that he would start mining them. Wow. And he had a whole operation in the house. And nobody else could really use internet or electricity when he was doing it. But he was having a good time. I don't really understand the value of these crypto coins other than for sort of

elicited activities. But the thing about values. So long as somebody thinks something is valuable, it is. And that's the crazy thing. You know, that's why pogs are valuable. That's why beanie babies. So I don't get it. But what do I know?

There you go. All right. Mark Goldwine. You got some kids on Twitter. Where are you at? Yeah. At Mark Goldwine. Really easy.

Or you can check out my organization at Budget Hawks. What do you guys do over there all day? You guys like crunch numbers and like, Is it like the big short over there? Are you guys just doing crazy stuff looking at stuff? Are you like Christian Bell over there? I wish. That would be fun.

I mean, a lot of what we're doing is where we're trying to analyze what's going on and legislatively what's going on with the economy and trying to give good advice. So we recently put out an analysis on what's in this inflation reduction act. We're going to put out more analysis in the coming days and how much it's going to reduce health care costs, what it's going to mean for the long term, maybe what? what it's going to meet for inflation if we can if we can figure that out quantitatively. So we do a lot of analysis and we spent a lot of time talking to staff on the Hill, talking to people at the White House, talking to the press, Tom, you know, going on podcasts.

You guys are my favorite podcast, but you know, my only podcast. Come on. We're just trying to get the message out here and trying to get the data out. And hopefully we can make the world just a little bit more understandable. All right, man. Appreciate you. When there's more questions, we'll hit you back and we know you'll have more answers. Thank you, Mark. Please do. I'm here. All right. Thank you.

There's a bishop update. People were mad about our opinions on the bishop. Were they mad? Seemed like it gets Sonia Richards-Ross on the phone. Do you have her phone number? Call her and put her on speaker real quick. About what? Can you do it? I could. What do you want? I want to talk to Sonia Richards-Ross real quick.

I want to, is that okay, Rachel? I call people that I know on the podcast. You do. And I never do that. I never do that. She's your friend. Can we please talk to Sonia Richards-Ross? Okay.

Let's see. Because I want to bring her up in front of the proverbial congregation over a comment that she left. Over a comment. Oh, she did leave a comment. A comment that she left. Sonia Richards-Ross trying to play us. We love you, Sonia. try to talk about us.

Hi, Sonia. Okay. I am sorry to disturb you. Look, Van's telling me not to prep you. Van wants to talk to you about the comment that you left on the last video about the pastor. I'm going to put you on speaker. No, it's not. This is the show.

He was like, I call my friends all the time. I was like, I am not putting her on speaker and putting her on the podcast. Ducking the smoke. duck in the smoke duck in the smoke she's running from the grind come on sonya she can't hear you

hold on she running you running from the grind sonya okay hold on hey sonia yeah look

she's not gonna leave any more comments on your Instagram I saw I saw it like it's almost as if you had a problem with what we were saying

You got something to say to me, Olympic gold medalist? No, but I'm literally saying she was like, she literally took a pause. And then she said, what now? I thought it was hilarious. Do you agree with, so right now you're willing to say? I didn't add me to the conversation. I just literally repeated what Rachel said. So right now, you're willing to say on record so everyone can hear that Sonia Richards-Ross, American

treasure, Olympic gold medalist, is in favor of robbing pastors. Say it. You can't get, no, you're not going to do my phrase like this. Oh, that's what you're saying. Nothing. All right. Thank you. It's a nice talk to you always.

He's a mess. Thank you. Thank you for picking up. I will always prep you before. I will never put you on the spot like that. Oh, man. Welcome. I'll talk to you later.

Thank you. So, okay, bye. Bishop Lamar, Lamar Whitehead. She said keep doing what you're doing. Thank you. she's great. Bishop Lamar Whitehead, the pastor who was robbed of the jewelry that he was flaunting in front of the congregation, it's being sued by a Brooklyn woman who claims he stole her life savings. If it walked like a duck, Lamar Whitehead, the bishop of the leaders of tomorrow International Church in Karnarsis is accused of convincing 56-year-old Pauline Anderson to invest nearly her life savings in one of his firms with a price.

promised that he could help her buy a home despite her bad credit. $90,000 cashier's check that she allegedly wrote November 2020 and relied on him to give her $100 monthly allowances to pay her living expenses according to the lawsuit. After months went by in early 2020, without the monthly payments or progress on the home purchase, Whitehead allegedly told Anderson that he was treating her investment as a donation. to his then campaign for Brooklyn Borough president. Yo, fuck! Whitehead told the Daily News that she was being untruthful.

Her son was a member of my ministry who was removed because he was unintegral. It's a lawsuit because of who I am. I mean, everybody that tried to sue me now because of my celebrity status is just going to keep on doing what they do. I'm saying, what the fuck, man? What's going on with this guy? Y'all. What's it off with this guy?

I know this is a, like a prime opportunity for people to talk about religion and pastors and why. Even Amber wrote on your page, she was like, I tried to tell you all. I don't think that this is an opportunity to say that just because this guy, this charlatan is like that, that they're all like that, okay? He's just a bad representation, a bad, like the worst. When people think, when people want to talk about bad things in the church, this is. This is like this is whose face pops up. This is wild. I believe her 100%.

I believe her what? This guy's riding around in a ghost in a Lamborghini? Look, check this out. People, wait, wait, go ahead, sorry. Oh, no, what's just going to say? No, sorry. Did you see how people were like, how dare you all attack him? He could have made his money through real estate.

Okay, it takes money to make money. So how do he have money? If he does have it in real estate, where do he get the money to start investing in a real estate? You just don't pop up and do that? First of all, shout out. to Pauline, who had 90,000 saved up. And like, have you something a little, have you something of a little something that's like, you know what I mean?

But look, I don't give it to motherfuckers like this. Had. So look, there's something called Christmas Eve Christian. Let me tell you what it is. Years and years ago, me and my cousin, I'm not going to name him, even though he became a Trump supporter, so I should name him. Me and my cousin are walking. name him you name everybody else he's actually one of the proud trump supporter he's a proud

charleston white no it's not like he's not like he's more likely be one of your cousins he's from dallas what you're trying to say that video is so funny i'm sorry i'll kill what y'all say don't know that he's disrespectful and you want to put hands on him for what he said about nip but that video is that video is funny um anyway so we're walking i'm gonna make this story short. I know I have to whatever. So we're walking throughout our apartment complex. It's me, Ian, and this guy's really Ian's cousin, but he is my cousin because we're super close. And despite his fucking bullshit, we're still super close. He's, you know, and it's Christmas Eve. It's Christmas Eve. And we come upon a wallet full of money, full of money. And it's in front, basically,

of one of our neighbors, me and Ian had, we lived together at this apartment complex. And It's in front of one of our neighbors, basically, in front of their house. It's obvious that it's for this person. They dropped their wallet, whatever they were doing. It's full of money. But remember, it's Christmas Eve. Earlier in the day, Christmas Eve, God damn, I missed Christmas in Louisiana. For some reason, I just got super emotional.

It's okay. It'll pass. Anyway. So, so, Ian goes, man, look at that. I pick it up. And I'm like, all right, about to knock on his door, see if it's his. And so it was I give it to him

And he just I remember to look on his face He was like Damn bro I appreciate you man And he was and he was And he was like yo you want like You need me

I slide you something I appreciate that There must have been $2 or $3,000 in a while I'm serious A lot of money A lot of money I'm like he's like damn bro

Like it couldn't It was barely folded For whatever Maybe he had just gone to the bank Or whatever And I'm like Nah man You straight is like

It was right here And I remember we were walking away and we'll call him Roger. Roger was like, yo, you stupid. You stupid. Like, you stupid, man. You should have, I'm like, bro. And this guy is one of the biggest Christians. One of the biggest Christians always throwing this Bible in your face, always telling you your girlfriends are unfit, all of that stuff.

Right. Like the biggest Christians. And I'm like, well, how could you not see this? You'd be like whatever, whatever. He goes, nah, man, that's a blessing. That was a blessing for us. That was a blessing for us. That was a meant for us to be found.

And so I called him forever a Christmas Eve Christian. Like a Christian who won't even do us right on Christmas Eve on the day before Jesus's birth. This guy Lamar Whitehead. is a Christmas Eve Christian. Defraud. I'm sorry. I don't know the man, but I got to be honest with you.

Everything that's telling me, there's a satanic ora to this God. There's a demonic order to him. And you don't need to be in church with all of that shit on and you should never be in a situation with one of your parishioners ever, even close where they can accuse you of taking $90,000 for them.

Ever. Shouldn't even be close to that. Try to sue me because of, my celebrity status. Sir. Rachel Pink sauce? No more. I don't want to hear any more about Whitehead. Huh? Pink sauce?

No. No. I don't even know what that is. Pink sauce is Chef Pie. Donnie jump on real quick. Tell us what pink sauce is. Do it now. Donnie put the story in here. Yeah. I've been seeing it on my Twitter timeline, but I'm not a big TikToker. So I just found out about it recently.

There's this big TikToker named Chef He, I think. And she has this condiment called Pink Sauce that she's been making these TikTok videos that have gone viral. And she's started selling the Pink Sauce for $20. Nigel what? You got to show your dogs to Chris Evans? Y'all see what he's doing in the podcast?

He is on social media. What are you looking at? No, somebody just sent this to me. It just popped up. I'm looking at the fucking rundown. When, oh. Hey, man, fuck extra. I'm not going to lie, bro.

I like, it is, I can't. Why are you so upset? You got, you're having a real conversation with Chris Evans where you get to show him your dogs. Chris Evans was doing an integration. He has a partnership with the dog food. and I thought it would be cute to bring Copper and Brownie into the conversation

because he loves his dog Dodger so much Dodger was on a walk so I didn't get to have Dodger but yeah we had a conversation man back to the pink sauce man fuck man I've interviewed Chris Evans several times

is that or is it the dogs or is Chris Evans is doing it for you First of all I would love Chris Evans to meet Bozeman to Captain America is my guy some of my favorite characters which is a little weird

because basically the polis but I'm sorry Donnie to cut off your pink sauce explanation but that just popped up this is bigger than pink sauce. So this lady is trying to sell the pink sauce basically. She had been selling it.

That's where the troubles come in. People who got the pink sauce noticed that a lot of the ingredients on the back were misspelled and we'll be getting them. I didn't see that part. Yeah. Yeah.

The misspelled ingredients. it would arrive in packages that were like not completely sealed so sometimes the pink sauce would have like a smell to it or the shade of pink would be different from what it was in the videos and um she's been coming out defending herself on tic-tok but she's in her defense has admitted to not knowing what the FDA is people have been jumping on her case uh somebody fake their own death saying that they died because of the pink sauce Can I ask a question is the pig sauce banging? That's all that matters. I haven't had it. I've heard it tastes like ranch.

That's the thing. Nobody really knows. But it apparently tastes like ranch. How much was it a bottle? Didn't you say it's really expensive? It was $20. Come on. That's bad.

I'm not paying, isn't it? How much is ketchup cost? I know it's, I know it's got to be like $5. Yeah, I'm going to say like six, something like that. Pink sauce Is a delicacy I fuck with her That's why you can't eat out of

Out of people's kitchen You don't know how she's making the stuff I want to Donnie fine pig sauce lady I want to have her on I want to talk to chef pie P Did she say she has no idea

What the FDA is No She in her explanation She like basically told her in herself She was like I don't This isn't medicinal This isn't medicine The FDA has nothing to

do with this. This isn't a federal thing. And the F and FDA stands for food. Yeah, exactly. But because of that, people have been jumping on their case. I don't want to talk to her. All right. We're not going to cover what's going on with Kalee and Beyonce. Have you seen this, Rachel? No. I got to know now. Well, now we have to talk about it. Collise is apparently mad that one of the songs on Beyonce's new album, Renaissance. Which it hasn't dropped yet. It will tomorrow when this podcast has, though. It leaked.

You heard it? I don't. I'm not. Okay. Come on. Okay. And that she, they sampled her on there. She's mad at a lot of different people because she doesn't have control of her masters.

So she gets no money from the sample. The sample is one of my very favorite, Cali's songs get along with you, apparently. And she's mad that Beyonce, who is, you know, very, very big advocate of the artist, let's take part of something that Calise can't be a... Did Beyonce know Calice doesn't own the Masters? I think the anger is misplaced, but I think a lot of people are going to side with Calise here because Calais has never been treated right about this industry.

Yeah. She's never been appreciated by this industry. She's always been an amazing performer, an amazing singer, amazing songwriter, but they've never done Kaleas right. So I think a lot of people are going to be like, hey, man, do something to make this right with Kaleas. All right. I feel like this is a continuing narrative with Beyonce. What? People's songs.

People's, you know what I mean? I'm serious. This is not the first time we've heard something like this. Okay. You're about to get buzz. Sting right back I hear Mailback time

Time to read your letters And then we'll reply To them Oh It's mailback time Write us with your queries And we'll chime in Okay

Numerous camp on Reddit asks What song will play on repeat in your version of hell. Interesting. Oh, you know what it is? It's the first song off that YouTube record. Remember that YouTube that came with your iPod?

That came with your iPhone. So they put that YouTube on there. And then every time I put my shit on and plug my shit up, the YouTube would automatically play. And I'm like, I'm sick of this shit. And it would automatically play. I'm like, I'm not trying to. So it would be.

that song. I can't fucking. I don't even remember it. I can't stand that. That's a really good question. I don't know. I don't know. I'm trying to think of something that just gets stuck in your head. You know, like, like the, this is the song that never is. That's a dope song. That's a dope song. That's, but it goes on and on. That's mine. That's mine from lamp chops. That's it. The next one is similar, but in the reverse, Stranger Things ish. Fambi 8-7, 6. on Reddit ass. What song is saving you from Bechna? The Weather

by Nipsey Hustle. All money in. Really? Money trees, Kentra Kumar. That's a good one too. That's a good one too. Crash unit, bus cuts, ex-marines.

Shout out to Nip, man. Rest and peace, man. The song goes crazy. Okay, let's go. All right. It's chill on Reddit asks. As a kid, did you ever have a crush on a crush to the next one? What was the question? What's the question? Did you ever have a crush on a cartoon character

if you did? Who was it? Why don't you want to answer that? Because, man. You did? Who was it? Betty Boot? It wasn't Betty. Lola? Jessica Rabbit? It was Jessica, man. It was Jessica

and it was bad. Jessica was fine. Donnie must have been feeling Jessica too because he didn't even had that was his first guess. Jessica was fine man. Jessica was bopping around. Jessica was so crazy. And for a long time,

the red dress thing was like a it was a killer. It was like a childhood thing. I remember I was having this one thing. I had a crush on a white girl in, in high school. And she came home coming in a red dress. I was like, shit.

is it about to happen early? You know, since I don't want to talk about it. It was very, I had to get off of it. It's like, Jessica Rapid, I love you.

Got it. The answer is a no for me. They also don't sexualize cartoons, the men, male cartoons, like they do women. It's not true. Name one.

Pepe, Pepe, Pepepelelelele. Okay, he was sexual. Pepelepe was the man. He was problematic. But sexy. You don't think Popeye was sexy? Muscles bulging out of his shirt. You know what I'm saying?

No. Papa? I don't think for olive oil, too. I mean, she had no body, but she was kind of, she was like, she was like, she's like a kid. Hey. Next question. All right. Last one is from Helen saying on Instagram.

She says, I'm a mama of an interracial baby. And I'm often conflicted if I call her black. or white. I think Helen is black. Van and Rach, what do you think? Love you both. Black. Black. Black. Black. Helen, if you don't get your ass out of our, we love you, Helen. It's black. You shouldn't even be considering it. Helen, you can call whatever you want. It don't matter what you call. No, don't say that. Don't say that. Don't raise those children to think that they're anything else but they're black. I'm not saying neglect the other side, but they're black. So the world's going to see them. I'm telling Helen right now, Helen, call them whatever you want.

Okay? You can call them whatever you want. The world going to let them know what they is. Yeah, the world's going to let them know. All right. You call Helen, call them something. You know, Tiger Woods was cock ablazing until he saw fucking hos. Then he was a nigger.

All right. So I'm telling you, call him whatever you want, Helen. Call them. Look, do the whole thing. Call it whatever you want. But one day, they're going to come home. He'd be like, hey, mom, somebody called me and then you're going to have to explain to them. All right.

Love you, Helen. Helen's saying. She's a super saying. Do you know what a super saying is, Rachel? No. Do you know what a saying is? A sand. A saying.

Do you know what a saying is? No. Interesting. Hmm. So interesting me. Do you know what? Donnie, do you know what a saying is? Last time the answer was porn star.

Donnie, do you know what a saying is? Donnie, do you know what a saying? The saying is. Yeah, I know what a saying is. San. What is it, Donnie? No, Donnie, don't tell her. Don't listen to him.

Tell me. Educate me. Educate me. A saying is an alien. It's from Dragon Ball Z. It's who go. Oh, shit. I was really like, damn, I don't even know what this is.

What is this thing? I don't know how to spell it. Yeah. I'm all Googling it. Get out. Let's go. No unexpected ally of the week. We don't know yet if Joe Biden can be considered an ally.

Rachel, do you have one? I saw something on the Reddit that said, we need to end this segment. Why? Why? We never have one. And to be fair, this is a critique that it's fair. I'm sorry, it is. And I believe there was a suggestion that said we should just be giving praise to people in the community.

And I'm not opposed to that. They said there aren't enough unexpected allies. And I mean, that's honestly what it really comes down to as well. Rachel, if that's what you want, then we can do that. I accept absolutely no praise, tips, or pointers from the soulless jackals over on the Reddit. They have no bearing in my life. So if it's something that Rachel wants to do. If it's something that Rachel wants to do, I'm trying to give them something to get them away from

just sitting around and being negative haters all day. So if it's something that you want to do, Rachel, I respect to you and you only have great ideas. But I don't need to know that it comes from the soulless jackals. Okay. So in a turn of events, the unexpected ally of this week is the Reddit group. Give it to them. Give it to them.

The thought warriors are Reddit. See, you don't even know. It's our thought of words. I'm sick. Soulist, Jackals, you're the unexpected ally of the week. That was a good suggestion. You're right.

We cannot have a segment that we keep failing to fulfill. So in lieu of, if we don't have an unexpected ally of the week, we'll do something that praises someone in the community, to do us something great in the community. Okay. All right. Take things caps off, but you not stop learning.

I am Van Lathen, Jr. I'm Rachel and Lindsay. Bye. Thank you.