Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay - Trouble in Texas and Drake’s Album Review

Episode Date: June 24, 2022

Van and Rachel react to the Texas GOP’s new platform suggesting secession (8:51), before discussing the mixed reaction to Drake’s new album in the new segment, "This Week in D**k-Riding" (25:19). Plus, Amazon's Alexa could be reaching beyond the grave (53:23). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Trudy Joseph and Donnie Beacham Jr. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? Howe Learning is on. It's I, Van Lathen, Jr. And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay. Rachel, let's talk about your Marvel comics knowledge. I think it's very well known in the Thought Warrior community that there is no knowledge.

There's nothing. Rachel called me earlier today. You're so proud about this moment. So, because, by the way, this was a very brother-sister moment. and my whole family appreciate it. Rachel called me earlier today. She goes, Van, what would you ask people in a new Thor movie? So I gave her all kinds of questions.

I'm not going to reveal the questions because she's going to ask them on the red carpet. They were great questions. Great. I asked her. I asked her to ask a question to Chris Pratt about his relationship with a character named Gomorra. She said, that's so helpful. She says, is Gamora a city? Anybody that Seen Gardens of the Galaxy knows,

the Gimoros Played by Zoe Saldana She's the most deadly woman in the universe I know she's green It's funny And then we had a whole conversation I called Rachel We had a whole conversation about Jane Foster Thor

We had a whole conversation It's a funny situation I loved it Wait and I meant to ask you this The fact that you're saying Jane Foster Thor is that a last name? What do you mean? Well, you keep saying Jane Foster Thor, as if that's her government name.

Her name is Jane Foster, but she is the Jane Foster version of Thor. Okay. So can we just call her Thor? Does he say Jane Foster Thor? So for the time that she was Thor in the book, the book was just a mighty Thor and it's Jane Foster. We call her Jane Foster Thor to differentiate her from Thor Olenson, who is, is the Thor that we know.

Thor Odenson, that's his name. All right. So Thor is both a name and a mantle. So Thor Odenson is his name. He is Thor Odenson. Thor, son of Oden. That's who he is. He's Thor Odenson.

That's his name. Okay. And he has me and ear an enchanted hammer, given to him by his father. But the enchantment on the hammer says whoever is worthy can wield the hammer,

not necessarily just Thor himself. So she becomes Thor because she is worthy to have the hammer the whole thing she's not accepted by the Asgardians, it's the whole thing. It was good. It was a good story run. But we knew that Thor Odenson would become Thor again. And they're doing that, and Thor Love and Thunder.

This movie coming out pretty soon. Rachel's going to see it. So I will say you make me excited when I watch, I mean, when I watch, when I listen to you talk about it. I'm like, ooh, this sounds so interesting because you're such a good storyteller. So I'm like, ooh, you make me want to watch this. But then as soon as we get off the phone, I'm like, no, actually, I'd rather do something else. But question, is Thor a human? He's Asgardian.

Oh, shit. I'm not asking any more questions. He's not, but he's from a different planet. Like Wonder Woman. No. She's from a different planet. No, she's not. She's from the Amazon, right?

She's from Themisgira. That is not a different planet that is here on Earth. I'm done. I quit. Did you watch Wonder? It's too much. Did you, did you, did you, did you, did you watch Wonder Woman? It's like a different realm, like a different dimension.

Arjuna, would you say Themyskir is like a different dimension? It's like, it's, she's from earth. Like she's like, but there's, but that place doesn't exist on earth. No, it does though. It does. They enter through something weird. No, I don't know. Steve, like Steve Trevor, he found it because he was flying.

They are trying to hide themselves from everybody else. But Steve Trevor found it because. because he crashed there. That's right. Yeah. It's like there are certain superhuman beings that have bases on Earth. Like in Marvel, the in humans, they're a race of people that have had their DNA altered to be weapons. But they live here on Earth.

Now they live on the moon. But it's on Earth. Anyway. It's a lot to unpack there. But it's, listen, I feel very well equipped. I appreciate it. I had a rough night. What was the rough night?

Brownie, my brownie, my little dog. I think you got bit at daycare, but they're not owning up to it. That's a whole other issue that I have a call scheduled with tomorrow. So I ended up, it just didn't look good. So I had to take him to the ER and I waited like five hours. And I got to tell you, waiting at the ER at night is such an emotional thing. Because you hear other people, like a woman came in and she was like, my dog died, he's in the car. They're like, oh, I have to go get the gurney.

You hear people crying because they're putting a pet to sleep. You hear people like panicking. So I sat for five hours because I just was like, yeah, let this person go. Their pet can't breathe. You know what I mean? So I was there. It's almost three in the morning. So you giving me those questions really helps me.

Of course. Because that carpet is tonight. But you know what I care about now, though? We got a ride. We can roll up. Nobody fucks with my nephew. We got a ride. How does something like that happen?

Do you know how livid I would be if the woeserly rabbit, bozzarly, woeserly, if something happened to him at daycare? What happened? So copper has actually been, like he was, a dog bit him when we were in Texas and it was so close to his Achilles. It was actually a miracle. It didn't mess. up more. And I was livid. They paid for everything. We never went there back there again.

With Brownie, it's not nearly as bad, not nearly as bad, but he's limping. And so he won't put pressure on it. But I did x-rays, he's fine. They were like, no, that he wasn't in a fight. He wasn't bit. The cuts not deep. But something happened. So I got to go back and look at the tapes. But it's common, right? It's common for your dog to get hurt at the daycare. Does that happen all the time? Well, you know, like a kid falling down and scraping their knee. I mean, they go every day so the odds are high that something could happen. They go day care every single day.

I got to be honest with you. In this particular situation, you're just putting me off daycare for dogs. I wouldn't send it every day. I'm just so paranoid about them being at home. I feel like they're bored and they want to play with dogs. That makes sense. And now I've just created a space where they expect it every day. so I have to keep it up.

But they're at home now. I have to stop feeding Bozeman from the table. Oh, I do that. Don't stop. She just won't have it anymore. She said, stop feeding the dog from the table. You're fucking them up. He's going to, he's stuck.

I can't, I love the animal so much. I know I talk about this a lot. The dog is such my friend. I get some food. You know what the dog says? Dad's eating. It's time to have a snack. So he comes right over and he sits there.

He knows what I'm going to do. But take a bite and I'm going to give you some. You're my nigger. I break it off with you. We get a bag, we bust it down. If I got $100 million, I would bust that down with Bowman. So, of course, I'm going to bust down some chicken breasts. You know what I'm saying?

But you can't do it. Oh, it's got seasoning on. Oh, it's cooked in oils, like whatever. See when copper came over here? Copper was just, it didn't fucking matter. Copper was just eating. That's what the fuck. Yeah.

Oil seasoning. Remember, I always tell you, he came from the streets. He's fine. And he had that tell me tuck back in April. Yeah, the BBL. By the way, one of the topics on our topic list, as I scroll through the topic list, is funny and really disrespectful in the way that it was written. Are you saying Donnie wrote it in a disrespectful way?

I don't know if Donnie, maybe I sent the headline and maybe the headline was just imported into the thing. but this says Disney's Light Year in all caps Flops Donnie did I send it that way yeah that's how it was written I didn't do that It says it flops

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They also want to secede from the union. President Biden is the acting president because he didn't legally win. Texans should vote on seceding. The voting rights act should be repealed. Any gun control is a rights violation. This is the world as seen by the Republican Party of Texas. Rachel, Rachel. In a newly adopted party platform, we can't compromise with Democrats

who have a different and incompatible vision of our future. This is from Matt Rinaldi, the state GOP chairman. We need to be a bold and unapologetic conservative party, ready to go on offense and win the fight for our country. This platform has been outlined in a 40-page document that addresses state issues but also much broader priorities, such as calling for the U.S. to leave the United Nations. Huh, the delegates approved it over the weekend at the party's convention in Houston.

Blah, blah, blah. We reject the certified results of the 2020 election. Acting President Joseph Biden Jr. is not limited to blibble. Texas retains the right to see from the United States and the Texas legislature should be called upon to pass a referendum consistent there too. This is your state. What do you think? I'm sick of my state. I'm disgusted with my state.

I mean, does this really mean anything? the grand scheme of things. I don't think so. These are just there were Texas Republicans showing where they stand. But it can. It really can, especially as we see Texas doesn't look like it's turning blue anytime soon. You know, they're already making history by sending that there was a seat. A U.S. House District 34 had a seat that in the first time in 150 years, they're now sending a Republican.

It's been a Democratic seat for 150 years. Now they're sending a Republican. It's showing, I think that shows where the Latino vote stands in Texas. I think it shows that Texas is redder than ever. I think it shows that Beto is going to have an uphill battle to beat Abbott. And it's going to put Abbott in power for possibly another term who obviously stands with this GOP convention. And so it's a dangerous place.

I think we laugh about it because some of the things that they're asserting are so ridiculous. But you have to take it seriously because Texas is a state that people watch what they do. And by people, I mean red states are watching the laws that Texas makes. They're watching the things that Greg Abbott is doing and then they're mimicking them or they're upping them, right? Oh, I'll take your abortion law and I'll up it and I'll make mine even more intense, even more restrictive. So I think it's something that you have to pay attention to. Seceding from the nation, there's a lot more involved in that. but the fact that they even want to in 2023 is a problem.

I think the fact that they're not accepting the election is a problem. I think the fact that they're trying to control education. They're trying to control the way that you raise your children. They're trying to control women's body parts. It's extremely alarming and it could possibly be setting a stage of where other conservatives stand in this country. And so it's ridiculous, but it's something that we have to pay attention to. Yeah. So it represents the growing trend of, not the growing trend.

It represents what is now commonplace in the Republican Party, which is what you call mainstream Republican entities adopting friends, fringe philosophies and ideals as mainstream ones. And so there is to me a silver lining in that. that. Okay. Okay. If you argue things at the margins, for me, sometimes it can get difficult to really differentiate who's with you and who's against you, you know? There are certain things that are done in politics that when you really examine them, it's six and one half, half dozen in the other. The way they want to go about things, the way they do go about things, right? If the

defense spending in America was such a grand problem to the left, why would it have been X amount of years to where the officials and the politicians that we've elected haven't really done anything to rein in the defense and just social complex, right? The entire thing, like, why? Because that's something that has to exist for America to have business as usual operations. Neither side really wants to deal with that. And the closer you examine politics, the more you know that. There are other things, though, right, that are kooky. And I still believe would be kooky to a lot of Americans that haven't been hardened by

either side. And I personally believe that it is easier to defeat in a way people with kooky beliefs than it is to defeat a very sort of, even, killed political adversary. The reason why Donald Trump lost this last time was kookiness. Now, with the way things are right now, who knows if this country is quite skewed and fucked up enough for people to get out in the same way that they did? But I believe that a lot of these things are going to backfire.

I think most of the talk that we're hearing about reproductive rights and all of those things, I think those are very easy things, if messaged on correctly, to get people out on. So when I hear a Republican Party in Texas, the Republican Party in Texas, doubling down on the big lie, when I hear them talking about secession, when I hear those things, I think furrow ground for lively, worthy opposition to make inroads. That opposition just has to be brave enough to call crazy shit, crazy shit. So while it's concerning how kooky the right is becoming, I think that there's some political opportunities in there if the right energy is doled out and the right strategy is taken. I think that when you look at the polling numbers on some of these issues,

and I'm going to stop filibuster in a second, that most Americans are anti these things. So you have to figure out a way to take that polling and that messaging and turn it into political power if you're the left. So when I saw this, I was like, I don't mind it they're getting a little bit crazier. Because crazy is easy to see. Well, that's a very logical thought. And what you're saying makes a whole lot of sense. But if majority of the country believes is against some of these things, I think that that majority, most of them live in the same place, these big cities in blue areas.

areas in blue states. And so I think that they're not in the right places to necessarily make a difference. When you say 70%, where are the, where is, I don't even know if you said 70. I think I just might make that up majority. When you say majority, where is this majority who feels this way? Because here's the thing in Texas right now. Abbott still is highly ahead of Beto. And that's coming off of Yuvaldi.

And part of that is the GOP is really good as shifting the blame. Abbot is to blame a lot for the loosening the gun laws that are in Texas. But because of the information that continues to come out surrounding Evaldi, we're blaming the police and rightfully so. You're blaming the police. You're blaming the chief. Those officers in the school, the fact that they did nothing, the fact that they lied, and you can shift the blame.

So it's not necessary. Remember, it was Abbott at first. Abid Beto came and charged up Abbott and talked about the fact that he had cut funding for mental health. he had not uh he had loosened the gun laws but now it's oh well abid was misled because the police are actually the ones to blame and mishandled that situation so you would think that that would be a situation where it's like you know what i don't want to support a governor who can't protect our children who cannot protect the innocent instead now that they've shifted the blame abid is still leading well ahead of betam so you think that would be the case but it's not people aren't seen through

the crazy texas is fucking fucking crazy right now. They can go. Here's the thing. Your assessment is correct. I think that part of this is cultivating new voters. Part of this is attracting people and getting out and cultivating new voters. There's a documentary that really, in my opinion, sums up Texas politics in the way.

You ever see Boy State? No. You should watch that. Boy State. Boy State. It's about, so boy state and girl state, it's this mock political little thing that they have during the summer. They had it in Louisiana, too.

You go there and you elect the president, you do all of this. And it was a candidate that was up to be the governor of Boy State. And what he represented politically, what he represented politically, like to the kids there. The kids. These are kids. These are teenagers. High school age kids. What he represented politically was something that was so unbelievably pure.

Like he had the life experience to back up why he had his views. He lost the rhetoric. You should watch it. These are kids. It starts this young with them, understanding what they have to say to rob people up. But what I'm telling you is it can be done. The fight is not over. The energy has to be directed in the right way.

Let's talk about Yuvaldi real quick. Let's talk about it real quick. Play the audio from Steve McGrath, the Department of Public Safety Director there. Spoke to a civic committee on Tuesday. Play his audio real quick. There's compelling evidence that the law enforcement response to the attack at Rob Elementary was an abject failure. and antithetical to everything we've learned over the last two decades since the Collabine

Massacre. Three minutes after the subject entered the West Building, there was a sufficient number of armed officers wearing body armor to isolate, distract, and neutralize the subject. The only thing stopping a hallway of dedicated officers from in room 111 and 112 was the on-scene commander, who decided to place the lives of officers before the lives of children. The officers had weapons. The children had none. The officers had body armor. The children had none. The officers had training. The subject had none. So many issues are coming together at once. So many things that for whatever reason, as Americans, we refuse to confront. You look at Yuvaldi and politics is getting in the way of people's lives. We refuse to confront

in America. We refuse to confront American mental health and how people are feeling. And we also refuse to confront the absolute putrid state of policing. Your police that you have told us need our unwavering, uncritical and unrelenting support. Wouldn't save the kids in their own community, the babies. They literally wouldn't run into a classroom to save their sons and daughters. Now, I say that,

but there's some of them who wanted to. The harrowing story of a man called by his wife who wanted to go in there was held back. I just don't understand how we can still have the same shit. The cowardice that was displayed by the Uvaldi

cops, I see all the time in the video. where I see cops with guns shooting down and kicking the shit out of people who are unarmed. Like they seem big and bad.

But when somebody has something and is actually putting the most innocent amongst us in harm's way, they didn't just hesitate it. They didn't act at all. It's nuts. These are three very distinct American problems. And I'm just wondering, who's on this?

Who's dealing with this? I think a lot of people who become police officers do it for the status, for the uniform, for the badge, for the power to carry a gun, and for the pride they feel represents being a police officer. I really do. And I've mentioned this before on the podcast. I've seen it when I had to work with police officers when I did municipal law. I had to work hand in hand with police. Now, granted, it was for Class C. Missing. It was like traffic tickets and stuff. but I would see the video footage of these stops. I'd see the way that they would talk to citizens. I'm not just talking about ones of color. People in general, I would see the disrespect. I would see the way that they would say, like, oh, you're talking to me. It's a mindset.

And I really think that rather than doing it to protect public safety and the citizens of whatever city, county they represent, it really is for the status. And I think that that's a conversation that we need to continue to have. How in the world, I can't even process this new information that's coming out. How could you have sat in that hallway and heard the gunshots?

Like, how could you have heard the pops knowing that they were pointed at someone and it was taking someone's life and they were dying on that. floor and you stood there breathing while other people were taking their last breath. I can't, I cannot process that. It's disgusting. How can you, I just don't understand how you could go home at night, how you could, how you could sleep, how you can be okay and continue throughout your day knowing that you could have tried. That's what you took an oath to do. And you didn't do it.

And then you hid behind lies. You hid behind. This is what. what my boss, my chief told me to say, instead of going out there and protecting the very people that you bowed to do, I just, exactly, copper. It's just like, I, I, if, and if we feel this way, Van, just imagine how difficult this is for the families. Yeah, it's terrible. That, that no, it could have been prevented.

You know, it's one thing to say it could have been prevented by the banning of assault weapons, but to know, that they were on site. Minutes, minutes after it happened. The good guys were guns were. Yeah. Over an hour. Yeah.

Before an hour before they did anything. Very few American institutions. They should. Yeah, they should. Very few American institutions have our faith right now. Rachel, there's something, there's a new segment I want to debut. Oh, gosh. Because we have to talk about it.

There's an epidemic of Dick Rodney. that's happening all over the country, all over the world. Quite the left turn. Where? Why? Who? We've become a culture devoted to dick riding. I'm from Baton Rouge, a place where we don't dick ride, right?

We don't. As a matter of fact, something very popular when I was in school to where if you were on somebody's dick and you're riding dick, someone will go and pluck you off pluck you off somebody's dick like somebody would be like somebody will come up and if I felt like you was on my dick

I'll go get off dog relax and that is what is happening now this is the very first edition this segment is called

this week in dick riding Donnie give me my sound that it is Where did that he come from? This week in Dick riding. Donnie, stop playing along. I need you to stop playing it along.

This week. Johnny, Donnie, drop my sound again. Drop my sound again. This week in Dick riding. Is that your voice? That's Han Solo. Okay. So this week in Dick riding,

I'm talking to Drake fans. and let me tell you why. Drake dropped very short notice a new album. It's called Honestly Nevermind. Honestly never mind is the Drake album. It came out and it's a house music album. It's an album that has gone off of the path of hip hop or even pop that Drake has been known for. And the album is all house music vibes.

Honestly, never mind. Okay. I listened to it. Rachel, what did you think of honestly? Nevermind. Hated it. You didn't like it? Did not like it.

Didn't like it. I thought it was a couple vibes on it. I wasn't mad at it. Only track 14. For me, it wasn't a, it wasn't like a bad album. It's just not for me. But I thought it was still some vibes to it. I'm not hating on it at all, you know?

But the album came out and people were very upset because they were expecting one thing from Drake. they wanted some kind of some summer turn up and they didn't get it. They got house music and that's not what Drake is known for and to be honest with you I'm just gonna be real.

A lot of us don't give a fuck about house music. Beyonce dropped the house music song y'all gonna act like y'all like it. A lot of people are really not fucking with it. Like a lot of people, like I get house music was started by black people. A lot of things were, but then niggas move on. Like we...

You started house music. Black people started. Frankie Knuckles, all of those guys started by house music. Black gay guys. Black gay men, the LGBTQ plus community started house music.

It's very true. Look, our roots, house music is ours. But it's not like I go out and listen to house music. As a matter of fact, when I go to Vegas, if I'm in a place

and they're playing too much house music, I fucking leave. I leave and I go to a place. I can hear the fucking Migos. You know why I say I hated it. It's not even just that I don't like house music. It's not even just that Drake is doing something that we don't expect from him,

he didn't do it well. That's really what it is. I don't think he did house music well. It was missing something. It was missing like an extra beat. There was a layer that was off. It sounded like even his singing on it. It didn't hit hard enough.

The remixes are going to be house. That's going to be EDM. But that way the album hit, it all sounded the same. I, like, I saw some guy on social media who was like, this is how Drake is on the song. I know, you know, she knows. If you know, we know.

That's how the whole thing, the whole thing sound. Beyonce, however, had layers to her song. Now, before we get to Beyonce, we have to talk about these Drake fans. Okay. Before we get to Beyonce, we have to talk about these Drake fans, okay? Because here's the thing. People didn't like it, right? People didn't like it.

This is where a dick riding comes in. People didn't like the Drake album, right? and I saw on the Instagram Twitter apparatuses some of the wokenest most anti-capitalist people shame

people because they didn't like music I heard people say if you don't like Drake you're too broke this is the type of music that you have to get your dick sucked by a card

dashing on a spaceship to enjoy. This is the type of music for 250-foot yachts. You have to be able to go to Ibita. You have to be able to go to Belize. You have to be able to go to Maldives. All of this stuff. I saw everybody. Y'all two broke to like music.

Hey, get off this niggas dick. Thank you. Like, why in the world would black people shame other black people, mostly, for being broke because of an hour? album that came out. What the fuck are we doing? You mean to tell me, you are so on Drake's dick that if somebody doesn't like the music, it's because they too broke, this music, this is for people who don't travel. This is for people who never been to France. Hey, so stupid. My guys in Baton Rouge, they ain't never been to France. They know when a song is jamming, though. Stop writing dick.

Get off Drake's nuts. Get off the nuts. The reality is, some people liked it. Some people did it. I thought it was cool. But if I would have not thought it was cool, it wouldn't be because I don't travel. I'm going to Greece in a couple of months. Thank you. Thank you. Like, get off his nuts.

You should talk to me about that. I'll tell you where to go. You been to Greece? Yeah, we went for honeymoon. Oh, a special. Like, get off his nuts. Like, get off his nuts. The reality is, guys,

I know that everybody has people that they love. Sometimes they're going to try shit, that she's not going to work. Sometimes they're going to try shit. She's going to be refuel. received better than other shit. But it's like you don't like this song because you don't have a Bugatti.

Nigel, we don't have Bugatti's where I'm from. But we like music. Don't you think Drake sets the tone for that when his response that he puts out is, it's okay if you don't get it. I'll wait for you to catch up. I don't. Catch up with what?

He didn't say nothing about money. What do you think he mean? He just meant I tried some shit. Maybe I didn't like it. Look, that happens before. That happens sometimes. No, he said, wait for you to catch up.

up as if he's either ahead of the time or if we're just not on his level. That happens in music, though. I am I even mad at that? That happens in music. Kanye West dropped 808 and heart breaks. When it came out, I'm like, this doesn't sound right. And then over the years, that album became Jesus too, actually. Over the years, that album became something that I played so much and it became what music

became. But that's not what we're talking about. That's not what we're talking about. This isn't something new. It's new to Drake. It ain't new, period. what he's saying is y'all might catch up. That's fine.

But all I'm saying is, if we don't catch up, it won't be because we ain't got no yachts. It won't be because we ain't been to Spain. It won't be because we don't fucking go to Bora Bora and Tahiti. Like, stop shaming other black people so that you can ride dick. Donnie, I want this cut out. I want this message out to the people. We're about to start calling out this dick riding.

It's going too far. But can we just establish there's nothing to catch up on? He didn't do anything new. That's how you feel. He did something new for him. That's how you feel, there's, we, you can hear this music from other artists. You didn't do anything new. You didn't do it right.

Huh? You seem very offended that Drake tried house music. I think I'm offended that it's like, like, I just created a new sound type vibe. It's like, no, you didn't. It's just new to you. And most people don't like it. I don't even think it's mixed reviews. I think most people just don't like it.

Drake fans. I don't listen to Drake for that. Y'all Fis'nigas dick. Okay. Reality is he's going to be fine. It's almost talented people ever to make music before. Okay. And he reminded us of what he could do on the last track.

It was cool. I thought it was cool. I listened to it a little bit. Sticky. See how sticky it gets. Brian loved it. I can tell Brian like it. I can tell Brian like it.

You know what Brian likes that type of music. Because it's shirt off Miami music. That's why. It's shirt off Miami. I could tell Brian like it because it's shirt off Miami music. That's the type of music that when Brian and his boys were headed down to the Clevelander. Van said. When Brian and his boys were savaging the Clevelander.

You know what I mean? Like all those years, like that's the kind of music that they would listen to. Van Setsch, y'all used to listen to this when y'all used to head down to Savage. at the Clevelander. The Clevelander. He knows. You've been to the Clevelander before. I used to work there.

Not at the restaurant, but the ESP. The ESPN studios are on top of it. Yeah, I went to did the Dan Lebertart show. They have the studios up there, like the Clevelander. That's the studio I worked in. Yeah, I worked in the studio.

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I'd never said I wanted to hit Beyonce. Don't get me in trouble with Jay-Z. I never talked about that. I never talked about that man's wife. I didn't say anything about one that hit Beyonce. Okay? There was a word. I never said that.

Like, that's not the case. All right. They're happily married in that whole situation. No, look, I listen to it. It was cool. I mean, I don't like that. I'm not going to dig that song because I don't, I don't dig that type of music. So she didn't make that for me.

And that's okay. Like, it's okay if I, if that, not everything is for me. Like a lot of music I listen to, like Rachel, do you like death metal? Is that heavy metal? It's heavier than heavy metal. Name a group or an artist. Slayer. Bantara.

No, no. Oh, God. I'm terrified. Right. So I like it. I can hear what's good about it, right? To me, if you don't like death metal, that doesn't mean that death metal is whack. It just means it's not for you.

The Beyonce song isn't for me. You like it, though. I like it because there's layers to it. I like it because it pops off with Big Freedom. So you're already winning me over when I hear Big Freedah's voice on the track. Then it samples a song that I like, that 90s Show Me Love by Robin. I love that song. So there's layers to it that I like.

Lyrically, I don't think the song is great, to be honest. Why don't you feel like it's not great lyrically? it just doesn't move me in that way. I think I just, I'm not like, ooh, that was a, that was a bar. That wasn't, that's not how I felt about it. But I felt it. It had the right layers to it where I was like, this is a song. I'm not jamming it in my car, but I can see, that's a song I would want to put on if I was on a boat in the water.

If I was on vacation, I want to hear. Yeah, I want to hear that. I was my girl. Like, really? You're going to go on a boat in the middle of the ocean and you're going to put that song on? If I was with my girls You're going to run your blood pressure up. You're supposed to be chilling.

If I was with my girls, that's like a song I would want in the background while we're having a good time. It is. I get it. It's very much so a summer song. If I was out with my girls. It hits. If I was out with my girls, you got to play that city girls. Oh, well, no.

I mean, it's F and F-N-F all day. That's the song of the summer. Do you know, do you know a song? No, what's F-N-F? Oh, fuck, nigger free. That's the song of the summer. Right. Shout out for Beyonce.

She told you to quit your jobs in the song. She got a billion dollars. You'll quit your jobs. See what I'm saying lyrically? See what I said lyrically? Hey, please don't call it. All just aside, don't call in the work at Chick-fil-A and then quit because Beyonce said, stop with this.

Because you will break your soul. Yeah, your soul will be broken. You'll be broke all over this motherfucker. Here's the thing. By the way, not say adding to the supply chain crisis that we have, we need actually more workers. We need people to go out there and like,

and we need them to work. You know what I mean? Supply chain is going to inflate all this stuff. Don't look, listen to everything to Beyonce says about. Don't take your economic advice from, from Queen Bee. I love her. Also, break down the lyric.

She quit her job because she's going to find something that makes her happy. She's going to do something that she loves. It sounds like she feels. found that before she quit her job. I'm just saying lyrically, if we break it, if we're analyzing the lyrics. But do what makes you happy, but don't do it until you have it in place. I'll tell you what makes you. I'll tell you what makes me

happy. Having electricity. It makes me happy. Okay. Okay. And if you don't work, they go cut your fucking lights off. Okay. Disney's light year flops in opening weekend after controversy over lesbian kiss and

axing conservative Tim Allen as voice of of bust. And I will say this. this this headline I grabbed from Twitter so this is probably from some conservative joint that just popped up on my shit

but there's actually something to be learned Lightyear was voiced by Chris Evans Am I right Arjuna Chris Evans He had been He had been

He had been voiced previously by Tim Allen An ultra white Ultra right Wing conservative drug dealing snitch. I'm going to treat Tim Allen just the way conservative media treats us.

Tommy Lauren jumped on to Jay-Z saying he was a drug dealer for 14 years. Well, guess what? Tim Allen was a Coke dealer and he was caught with Coke and then he rat it. Allen 69. Okay, so he's not doing the movie. It's a toy story spinoff. It made $51.7 million North America. That is a Pixar flop.

That's just the way around it. Pixar does better numbers than that. Pandemic or no pandemic, Pixar numbers do better numbers than that. There seems to be in this movie, lesbian kiss. It was banned in a bunch of countries because of this. Do you think that light year flopped

because of the removal of Tim Allen and because of the lesbian kiss. Possibly, but more so because there are probably a whole bunch of conservative parents that didn't allow their children to watch it. Not because it's not a good movie. Not because obviously the kids don't feel a certain way. Yeah, there's probably a bunch of right-wing conservative parents that are like, absolutely not. This is what I'm telling you guys.

I've been telling you guys this for a while. To all of my woke warriors out here. You have a responsibility. The responsibility is to be more than a tweeter. Okay. The responsibility is to be more than a rouser of rabble. Lightyear came out and features the same-sex kiss. That, in Vance opinion, is progress.

So you know what I did? I went to a screen of Lightyear, true. But then I also went to the movies to see Light Year to support said progress. We have a lot of conversations on this very podcast about the WMBA. You can tweet about the pay disparities in the WNBA all you want. You can bellyache and raise awareness about the pay disparities. It's not belly aching. It's pointing out of valid social issues about pay disparities in the WNBA.

all you want. The most powerful way you can support the WNBA is to watch it and to go to games. Even if you don't fuck with basketball like that, start fucking with it. Start caring about the WNBA. Start caring about the women

who you say you're fighting for. Light year comes out. What happens is companies like Disney, other companies, they say, hey, we're getting creamed because we don't have enough diversity in the stuff that we put out. We're getting creamed.

People are talking about the fact that we're behind a curve on this. So let's go ahead and encourage our creators to do this. Then things like this happen and they figure we can't do it again because they're not going to lose money for your feelings.

So the reality in the situation is the moment that it was discovered or revealed that Lightyear had a same-sex kiss, there should have been a push to get people to go and show up to the movie. I know that I know that people are going to say, hey, we shouldn't have to make a special sort of effort to support things like that. But guess what? We do.

We do. Every time this happens, the people that don't want to see this are emboldened. The people that don't care about a million heterosexual kisses that we've seen in all different types of content since we were born. Mickey Kiss, Kiss, Minnie, all of this stuff. We've seen this all. The people that say, hey, don't show anybody kissing to my kids because it's sexualizing the kids.

When we've seen these kisses, you're emboldening them. So the fact that Lightyear flopped, number one, light years, it's okay. It's not terrible. It's good. It's okay.

But the fact that Light Year flopped, it should have never flopped. Everyone should have been running out to see progress. Everyone should be running out to see, to see things change, and to see the world open up and be different. And when it does it, it falls back on not them but us. Do you think that Disney's lack of early, like the flip-flop that they did messed it up even more?

The fact that Disney had it in there and then they removed it. And then the only reason they put it back is because there was a lot of public pressure from Disney employees who felt like, why would you take this out? this needs to be put in. And so I think that might have been part of it too, because Disney didn't really seem to stand behind this if they initially tried to take this out. Disney was right on which part, I'm sorry.

Disney was right to think that having the kiss in there would hurt the business of the movie, and that's the sad part. Yeah. Like the sad part is they were right to think that, but they shouldn't be right. We should make them wrong. At some point, we have to put...

You're 100% right. We should... We have to put our money where our mouth is. We have to. Like, we have to. But that's a fair point that you made. Okay, Saucy Santana. It's a very fair point that you made, Rachel. Back and forth

that's not good. Sassie Santana. He was performing to a large and excited crowd, and he wanted to remind people that gays run the world. Play Saucy Santana's audio, if you will, Donnie B. Huh. So basically said when you need a stylist, you call a gay, when you need your hair done, you call a gay, when you need your makeup done, you call a gay. Rachel, is this true?

No, because the way that Saucy Santana is putting it, it's as if that's the only person that you would call, as if that's the only person with talent, as if that's the only person who's going to have you looking top-notch. because according to his words, gay men are the blueprint for cultural, culture and style. I'm going to tell you this. I don't like Sassy Santana. And I've actually had this conversation with several people of I don't get it. I don't get him. I think that he is capitalizing on a trend because he's, I guess, rose to social media fame is aligned with other famous people. but it's not his talent alone that is what has made him successful. I don't understand it. I guess this is me getting older,

but I'm not a fan and I'm not into him, into it. And this isn't the first problematic thing that Sossie Santana has done. What else? But the fact, well, you know, of course they unearthed old tweets on people and he was criticizing Little Blue Ivy for the way that she looks. Oh, yeah, I did see that. And instead of owning up to it,

was more of. Here y'all go. I'm still got money. I still got this. They're just trying to take me down. No, you just criticize a young woman, black little girl for her looks. Now you're putting women down again. Me personally, who does my makeup is a woman. Who does my hair is a woman. Sometimes I use a gay man, but for the majority it's a woman. The women, the people who style me are women. So that's not necessarily always true. But I don't think that you have to put women down to build gay men up. And that is the problem with this whole rant. You can praise gay men and uplift them and talk about how great they are without putting

down women in the same breath. And that's what Saucy Santana is doing here. And that's what I have a problem with. No, like, I think you can uplift the LGBTQ plus community without having to be. having to put other people down. He's very problematic to me. Is there misogyny in this? Yes.

Yes, by what I just said. You feel like Sasi Santana is this dripping with a little misogyny? Yes, because he's putting down women. He's like he's basically saying it's, I mean, he's not saying the community is the blueprint of culture and style. He's specifically talking about men. And he himself as a man is putting. down another gender or maybe even non-binary people to uplift gay men.

I do think this has misogynistic tones. Do you think Saucy Santana is a misogynist? You think he thinks men are better than women? I think he thinks gay men. I don't think. I know he thinks gay men are better. He literally just said it. Is this type of thing, the type of thing that threatens some types of

intersectionality. Intersectionality is on the ropes right now, Rachel. I'm not going to lie. Because the more, I think people are more comfortable with their sections than they thought they were. Intersectionality is, it's on the run a little bit. And I think statements like this are part of the reason why. Because misogyny and patriarchy, it's like a heavyweight champion. you have to it's a full-time job to confront those things and it doesn't matter how intersectional you are if you're not doing what you're doing you might think that just because you have a penis

you are better than someone and it's a hard thing to divorce yourself from if you're not trying and in other ways when we're talking about intersectionality it just seems as if it intersectionality just seems very to 2019 I'm going to be honest with you It seems like it seems like it's not the same anymore.

It seems like everyone is, we kind of ran to our foxholes during COVID, and we haven't really come out of them. And our foxholes are normally, we normally have people on our foxholes that look and feel and sound just kind of closer to us, you know? It's weird. Do you think that Sossi Santana thinks he couldn't be a misogynist

because he is a gay man? I don't know. I think that sometimes, you know, this is a question I'm not a woman and I'm not a gay man so I really wouldn't know but I think sometimes kinship

brings a familiarity and that familiarity especially like I think that familiarity can sometimes lead to a little contempt I think when we're working in close quarters with people and sharing

different sort of making little cultural treaties with them, we have to make sure that we continue to respect ourselves and them as well. Or sometimes that contempt can come out of places where you wouldn't expect it to. And I would wonder, and I wonder about that. Maybe we'll bring Jared on to talk about it. Okay, Supreme Court made two decisions. I want to ask you something, Rachel.

We can talk about these decisions or we can bring our friend. Let's bring our friend on. So we're going to bring Caroline Corbyn on. to talk about what the Supreme Court is doing and how what the Supreme Court is doing right now could affect what the Supreme Court does do because to be honest with you, there's a decision that they made on guns

that to me is at total cross-purposes with what we think they might do on abortion rights. And I have got to talk to a constitutional law scholar about this. So we're going to bring Caroline Corbyn on Monday to talk about that. And if that does go that way, then it shows that they aren't making judgments in the law. They're making them aligned with their morals and their politics.

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No. You say no. That's what a picture's for. Donnie, Trudy, jump on. Yeah. Your thoughts, Donnie. It's beyond creepy. Yeah.

Like, just the thought of it, like reading the description where they specifically mentioned, an older woman was used to read her grandson a bedtime story. After he asked Alexa, can grandma finish reading me the Wizard of Oz? That, like, gives me chills. I got to admit I'm torn. I can't get behind that, man. I'm torn. I think the moment you did it, you change your mind.

I'm saying 100%. Okay, so let me tell you why I'm torn. And I know that it's bad. All of this is bad. Like, what's happening with AI confused? It's all fucked, right? This episode of Black Mirror called Be Right Back. I don't know if you guys have seen.

Has anyone seen it here? I have. What? Has anyone seen the episode of Black Mirror called Be Right Back. Have you seen this episode? No, no, no, no. Donnie? I feel like I have because I've seen them all, but it definitely didn't stick. I don't remember. Refresh. So this is the one where the woman, her partner dies, and there's this thing where they can take all of your partner's social media accounts and their life online and then create a facsimile

of them with their consciousness and their personality and then like bring them back. remember the guy the guy from Star Wars what's the guy's name Damahaw Gleason yeah the Damahall Gleason he plays Donnie you would remember it if you saw it Yeah okay

Did you see it? Yeah I did he's like there's a fake version of him They put the personality into like a fake body To a body Well it's just you know they're able to make the body And then at the end I want to ruin it for people but you know She has a daughter and she's just

her grief can't let her get over it, right? And I don't want to turn this heavy, but I always thought about how creepy that was until my dad died. And like, I started going back and listening to saved messages, voicemails that my father has sent me, like, all the time.

Like, if I'm in a place and I'm feeling like a little bit, like, if I'm feeling like a little unsure or if I'm nervous, before I went on Kimmel, before I went on Kimmel, like, I listened to like my dad, hey boy, daddy just calling to tell you that he love you. And I listen to that and it calms me down. It's like, hey.

So I don't know, man. It seems a bridge too far, but maybe I'm one of these coops that might fucking try. Donnie, I know I don't want to bring up. I know you lost somebody recently. You never thought about maybe wanting to, you know, talk to your mom anymore. No. See, I think I've handled my grief a little bit different than you. I've been like avoiding hearing her voice or seeing her.

Outside of a few pictures that I have around the house, like this past, it was a holiday recently. My stepdad sent me a video of my mom and I couldn't open it. And she's been gone for almost two years now, but they're still, I don't know, everybody grieves differently. So I feel like this would be exactly. opposite of what I need. I agree different.

I think that it's normal. I hear about people listening to saved, not normal I should say, but I've heard about people listening to saved voicemails or like watching a video or something like that. But I think what the Alexa's trying to do is it's too present for me that that I don't think that I would be able to emotionally handle that. That's where I think it draws the line. Like, it's one thing to listen to something in the past. It's another thing to be right here.

And I just, again, everybody's different. It might work for some people, but for me, I wouldn't be able to handle it. I would play around with it, though I would make my dad say things that he had never said in life. Alexa, play two Wong-Fu. Thanks for everything, Julie Newmar.

Like stuff that my father would have never done. You turn my Alexa one. Like stuff that I know, I know you would never like stuff that my father. So my father was such a man's man, man. I want to take him down the peg a little bit. I love your dad. But just have him, have Alexa. They can do it.

Alexa, tell me about diamond cream facials. Like have my father say that. be hilarious. It'd be very funny. All right, mailback, God damn it. Oh, by the way, the return of Animal Games next week. Mailback, let's go. Mailback time, time to read your letters,

and then we'll reply to them. Oh, it's mailback time. Write us with your queries, and we'll chime in. All right, save on 28 on Reddit, asked if you could men in black flash any embarrassing moment in your life, what would it be? And would you flash yourself or just the people who witnessed it? I would definitely flash out myself and the people who witnessed it. And that would be when I was in the MLB Celebrity All-Star Game and Jason Taylor hit up a pop-up or a fly ball, whatever you call it.

And I thought this was my moment. I don't know why they had me playing shortstop. This was on ESPN. And I lost it in the lights. And it fell down and it hit my chest. And I fell out on the ground. Video. And people were running to me like, Jamie Fox, Miles Teller.

Like, is she okay? And I had to sit out the rest of the game. It was the most embarrassing moment. Because it was, it was. It was. Well, they asked me if I wanted to come back in. My ego was so bruised. I couldn't. I mean, the ball landed and hit me in my chest. This was at the Marlins Stadium. This was huge. And why they had me playing short stuff. Me and Christina Millian were the only women in this game. I have no idea why. And you won't find it because there was a delay. And because I was the Bachelorette, they did not want that to air on camera. And so you'll never see the-

fuck, man. They cut out the ball hitting my chest. And you just. You don't know. just see people scrambling trying to catch it. Anyways, I will black that moment out from everybody's memory. And then in that same game, I was warming up with old boy from Walking Dead, the red hair guy, and we were tossing the ball back and forth. And I threw the ball and I hit Jamie Fox. Jamie Fox is a good athlete, too. I had no business being out there.

That's not my sport. I will black out the whole thing. Yeah. The whole thing. I got my dick called my zipper seventh grade. In front of people? Yeah. Okay.

I didn't have any underwear on as I learned a very, very precious lesson. Didn't have any underwear on. It was coming back. By the way, we didn't have showers in Baton Rouge. Like in PE. We didn't shower. Like we go to PE. We didn't either.

Fonk nasty We play outside Play outside The whole not Like I remember Folk If you had P.E.

Third period You folk nasty After you did I mean I had We had deodorant I put the deodorant on But like yeah Like so yeah

So I didn't wear any underwear I'm not sure why And I was zipping it back up And I got my balls cut Caught in Ballskin Caught in my zippers So you had to go to the nurse's office?

No. You toughed it out? I tried to get out of the situation, but I had to tell somebody, hey, man, you could coach, man. My dick stuck in my zipper. And then the laughter just. Why did people hear you? Why you didn't pull them to the side? Because I couldn't walk.

Oh. You know what I'm saying? Like I couldn't walk because of the balls stuck in the zipper. Seven or seventh grade? seventh grade. Oh gosh, middle schoolers are brutal. Yeah. Yeah.

So that's really one of the only embarrassing moments in my life. My dick got caught my zipper before, too, that, before that. It was maybe like, I think my dick, my dick got caught my zipper. I'm thinking like 88 and mom got it out. Mom knows. Mom remembers. She laughed. Sounds so painful.

It was. But when I was a kid, I used to, I didn't like to wear underwear. I'm not wearing underwear now. I'm wearing like a... Wasn't the question. Was not the question. Like a, what do you call it? Swim trunks.

So they have built-in underwear. Donnie, next question? I mean, like, we'd be asked for this. I just kept going. I feel sorry for the guy in studio with you. All right. LSX-3399 on Reddit. Ask, if you had to choose one or the other,

which of the following would you least like the world? to see. Your options are your emails or your Google search history. Nigger, obviously, nigga, the fuck. My email's got all kinds of wholesome shit. My Google is a lot more wholesome than it used to be, but the stuff that's going to be in my Google now is not going to be like all the freak nasty porn shit that used to be on there. Now it's going to be weird shit that's still embarrassing. You know what I mean? Like weird, like, what lightsaber form does Obi-Wan Canobi use? It's going to be. you know, it's like my, you know what I mean?

It's like it's not going to be, the emails are all going to be like, hey, Van, you want to come, you want to come here and do this show next week? That's what? I don't know. What about you? I guess I just don't want people in my personal business. I don't want you to know how I'm moving and shaking. I don't want you to know, like personal info might be in there. I just, I don't know.

I don't want you to know creatively how I'm thinking about things. I don't want you to know who I know. I think I'm going to have to go with the Google search and just take the embarrassment. It's true. All right. Next one. All right. Richy Rich,

1986, asks, how would you react if there was irrefutable proof that God doesn't exist? Or how about if there was irrefutable proof that God does? How about this, Richie? Why don't you get your heathen ass out of my face? I'm not answering it.

Richie, I love you. Thank you for watching the podcast. Richie's sitting somewhere stroking the Chessaricast of Villains question. I'm not answering it. I love the word heathen. Richie, Richie, Richie, Richie trying to get, she's trying to get me anxiety.

That scared me. Did you not hear us both go? Yeah, I don't want to talk. Richie, you're done. We're moving. Like, like, uh, all right. What's the next? question.

No. You're done, Richie. Legacy Tony 3 asked who would win in a versus between Mariah Carey, Brandy,

and Beyonce? Okay. I almost said something. Not trying to get it. Go ahead and do it. Like,

no, no, no, no. Go ahead and do what you was about to do. Okay, first of all, if I'm ranking the three

of them, I'm going to say Mariah, Beyonce, Brandy. Okay. But verses are with two people, so I'm going to take Brandy out. Okay.

And I'm just going to do Beyonce and Mariah. Beyonce would slaughter Mariah Carey and the verses. She would. She would. She's got more hits. She's got more collaborations. She would. Yeah.

I guess I'm basing it on voice. Can I be out with you? nostalgia and all of that. Here's the thing. And this is the thing about the Mariah Carey thing. There's a version of this where Mariah Carey is unbeatable. Like when I say unbeatable, If we just do pop hits, records, sold, all of that.

But if we talk about a versus, first of all, Mariah, let me not act like Mariah don't have bops. Mariah, Mariah, one of us, for sure. She got bops. Beyonce is going to hit different. That's why the Mariah Mary J. Blage thing. Mariah, versus, first of all, shout out to Versus, because Versus has a real legend on the next verses.

I know you saw this. Oh, no, I didn't. Who? Mother fucking Ray J. is on the next versus. Who's he going against? I think it's Ray J versus a Mario. No, it's not Ray J versus a Mario.

No, it's a Mario versus, hold on. It's a Mario versus Mario versus Mario. Mario. Versus Mario. And then they have another one and it's Ray J. It's a team versus. I think it's Ray J. And.

Lloyd? Lloyd. I mean, like, who else? Bobby Valentino. Ray J. and Bobby. Shout up to Bobby Valentino. Ray J. And Bobby Valentino versus.

spectacular. Time out. They had to pair Ray J up with somebody. Yeah. I'm seeing. Okay. Enough said. No, Donnie,

say no more. Ray J can't stand alone in a versus. They got to pair him with somebody. Yeah. Michael and Janet my ass. So it's Ray J and Bobby V versus pleasure P. So it's pleasure P. Ray J and Bobby V versus pleasure P and Sammy.

It's a night of R&B. Pretty Ricky? Oh, that's an easy, easy, easily pretty Ricky. First of all, let me tell you why they're going to lose. I don't even need to know. I don't even know who's pretty Ricky paired with. Sammy. I like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, Sammy. Let me tell you why Ray J's team is going to win. Of course you're going to say this. Go ahead. First of all, Ray J's a legend. I've said this before. But the reason why Ray J's team is going to win is because of Bobby Valentino.

Y'all fucking sleep on Bobby Valentino. I know I am. And the hits that Bobby Valentino has been a part of. I just want you to think of it. I'm just going to give you some records now. Bobby Valentino has on his own. Slow down.

He has slow down. He has tell me. Tell me it's harder than slow down. Say baby, what's your story You got the goods it's plain to see Like that one right there right So then Bobby Valentino has Blackberry molasses

That was before with Mr. Right He's in that group? Yeah, he was the singer He's blackberry molasses He's got Blackberry molasses With Mr. Walk up Sunday morning

Yeah Stop fucking hating on Bobby Valentino You name three songs Pretty Ricky had a whole album You can literally press play On Pretty Ricky's album Women in a caviol You know who we are

Because we're pipping all over the world Yeah Bobby Valentino Say on the hook on that Give me another you want another one Mrs. Officer Louis Wayne Bobby Valentino

Wee Weewee Weee Weee Bobby Valentino was a legitimate R and B star Those are Right there

If you're pairing With somebody Those are five legit fucking cultural bangers then Ray J's coming with the sexy can eye With his two songs

With the way of a minute Ray J's coming With the I hit it first Ray J's coming That's the count Like whoa The title The title was more popular

Than the actual Wait wait wait wait Ray J's coming What's the other one Where he was one wish Way Jays coming with the one wish Okay You got eight

But Yo Fire way J and Bonnie Valentino are taking it to the fucking top rachel you are sleeping on pretty ricky plus pleasure p went solo we got the solo pleasure p and i'm not even concluding sammy it's not fair because you have pretty rickie if it was if pleasure p couldn't do pretty rickie songs a hundred percent bobby i'll be honest with you i'm gonna be honest with you i'm gonna be real did you wrong boyfriend number two i'm gonna be all the way real with you niggas not fucking

with that pretty ricky like they was fucking with that borgie like they was fucking with that Bobby Valentino. I'm a beat. Donnie, y'all are too young. Pretty Ricky was college. I'm telling you pretty Ricky was your, you were, it was a, it was a after a feature of young jock. These are hits.

No, no. Wait, Donnie, did you agree with me? Yeah. I'm pretty Ricky. That was high school for me. I'm a step behind you, but yeah. Okay, you didn't have to do that. I was in middle school, singing some nasty ass pretty Ricky songs and did not know what

we're talking about. But yeah. What about give me that featuring Chingi? Give me that. I'm not going to like. They need a really good case for Bobby Valentino. He really did. Honestly, I'm not going to hold you.

And Ray J. Like one wish really goes hard. I think I'm in Van's camp on this. Hey! Okay. I just didn't name the songs. Excuse me. Let me get to Pretty Ricky.

Excuse me. Grind with me on the hotline. I need to look at the discography. Hold on, please. Grind with me is the one joint you got because grind with me is hard. Baby grind with me. Remember the whole era of niggers?

Your body. That was it. That was it. It's not going to hit. My body. It's not going to hit. Everybody was singing it. It's not going to hit like this Bobby Valentino.

It's not going to hit. It's not going to hit like that Bobby Valentino. It's not going to hit. Pretty Ricky's cool. It's not going to hit like Bobby Valentine's. I push. The Bobby Valentino joints I just named you. Late Night Special.

Hold on. Where am I? On the hotline. Ooh, love, like, honey. I forgot about that. Oh, what about Mirror featuring Little Wayne? Bobby Valentino, it's not going to hit. No, you're just naming songs.

You're just naming songs that have a hyperlink. You have no idea what these are. I don't know. I don't know. Anyways, when is that versus tonight? It's in an hour. It's coming up pretty soon. Yeah.

Oh, it's in an hour. No, we got the draft. We got the draft. There's too many things. There's too many things happen. I got a red carpet. I'll probably watch your job. Hey, Ray J. Bali Valentino,

two guys I consider to be my homies. You get out there and handle your business. I don't know these other niggas. You out there. When we talk tomorrow, we talk tomorrow or we talk next week, we're going to be talking about fucking victorious Bobby V. Bobby V stands for victory.

Okay. Let me get Bobby V on the phone right now. Do we have one more question? Do we have one more question? I said, let me get Bobby Vee. That was your own question. No unexpected ally of the week. People have been way too racist.

I can't handle it. I cannot handle it. There's way too much racism out here. Like once I saw the tweet from the, from the, I don't know if it was a congressman or a senator with about Juneteeth. I can't hand. I'm done. I'm done with people. And by that I mean white people.

Also, shout out to, I've been meeting a lot of thought warriors in the wild. Alex, Tori, I believe those were the names. I met you at the Pride Parade. Shout out to Project Angel Food. I've been meeting a lot, a lot. Shout out to them. We appreciate you guys. All right, take the thing caps off.

We do not stop learning. I'm Van Lathen, Jr. I'm Rachel and Lindsay. Bye, guys.