Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay - Trump’s Russian Relationship and What’s a Black Dandy?

Episode Date: October 11, 2024

Van and Rachel discuss the impact Hurricane Milton has had on Florida and the political storm surrounding it (18:48), react to revelations from Bob Woodward’s upcoming book ‘War’ (30:44), and J. Cole addressing his decision to bow out of the Kendrick Lamar-Drake beef (45:53). Then a breakdown of Kamala Harris's and Donald Trump’s recent interviews (54:31), as well as a quick debate on the theme of the upcoming Met Gala. Plus, what is Black dandyism (1:09:28)? Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? Her learning is on as I've been looking to. And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay. Rachel, where are you tapping in from? New York City. New York City. Remember that? Pace Picante.

Pekante sauce commercials? Yeah, I do, actually. New York City. Get a rope. They're going to hang the guy because his fucking Picante sauce. was from New York. They're going to hang them. They used to be able to get away

with different types of stuff. They're going to hang this guy. They're going to lynch this guy. Think about this. This guy, they're all sitting around and they're eating salsa. And their salsa is made in El Paso, or San Antonio, one of them, I think it's El Paso.

And then they find out that his pecanque sauce is made in New York, and they're going to lynch him. He's going to get, he'll be killed for that. Just the stereotype of this is how things get done in Texas when you don't agree with us. That's literally the stereotype they were trying to play into. Well, it's facts.

No, it's not. I just flew back from Houston. I like to shout out everybody down there in Houston that I worked with. Fantastic people I met down there in Houston. Fight for Democracy. I did an event yesterday on the record down there in Houston. Shout to Holly Cotton

everyone down there that was hosting it doing anything. Trey Daniels. So I did Willie D's podcast. Willie D. from the ghetto boys. I was walking around the back to get to the place where Willie D. does Willie D. live.

And, um, you know, I was walking in there and I heard a voice like, yo, who's that? And I thought for a second, this is Texas. You need to make sure you don't walk onto these people's property because they put the bam-bom on you. And it's a real concern.

Sure, it is. Most places. No. You don't have to worry about that. Well, yeah. Like, I'm walking into the airport in Houston and it says no unlicensed firearms. It doesn't say no firearms.

It says no unlicensed firearms. Wow. It's the Wild Wild West. When you're going through security in Houston, it says make sure to take your gun out of your back. Wow. It does. I didn't see that. I was just in Texas and I didn't see that. I wasn't paying attention, but I definitely didn't see that. What are you doing in New York? What's going on up there? Let's do some stuff for Spotify. Okay. Spotty, Spotty doll?

It's ad week. here in New York City, a bunch of advertisers or out here learning how they can connect with different audiences. So did an interview with Camila Cabello talking from playlist music to podcasts, talking a lot about higher learning and what we do. And then also what she does as a music artist too. It's really good, really great conversation. Did you ask her if she gets along with Normani?

that wasn't my focus. I want to know. Also, I'm not, I don't know any of what goes on with Fifth Harmony. They all seem to be doing well individually, which is how they started out, as a reminder. That's how they all started out. I want to know what's going on with the young, up, incoming solo female performers. I want to know what's going on with Hallie.

I want to know what's going on with Chloe. I want to know what's going on with Normani. I want to know what's going on with Tyler, because I'll be honest with you, it seems like the young, black, up-and-coming female performers. I'm not talking about the more established acts like your scissors. I'm not talking about the more established acts like your Rihanna's. The people in that ilk, I'm not talking about them.

Been around for a while doing their thing, right? No, Siza actually is not even in the same vein as the rest of those artists because they're a little bit more pop than Siza is one of the greatest musicians of her generation. Anyway, I want to know what's going on with these younger black female acts because I don't see them getting supported like I see some of the other acts that are popping up all over the place. What do you mean?

I mean like explain that. So. Because Tyler's getting a lot of support. Yeah, the album flopped. Do you think that that's just like a sign of the times? Maybe. But Tyler's getting a big push. I'll say that, right?

And, you know, maybe maybe I shouldn't be taken up to Tyler because maybe she doesn't want me to take up for her because, you know, maybe he doesn't feel like we're the same or whatever. But these acts that are popping up here, these young black female acts, you know, Chloe's, your Hallies, your Normannies, your Tylas, all of these different people, you know, I'm seeing the tape McCraise and the Sabrina Carpenters and all of these different people,

there's no shortage right now of young white solo female acts that are blowing up. There's like a new one every other day. There's an Olivia Rodriguez. There's a goddamn, there's a, there's a,

I'm telling you, there's like a new one every other day. It seems like the younger sisters for some reason are, I'm not saying these ladies don't have great careers.

I'm saying the youngest sisters for some reason, it seems like they are struggling to catch on and get as much fanfare and stuff as some of their white counterparts. And I'm just wondering if that's

something that I'm misperceiving or I can't say that a new white one is popping up every other day. But I will say, are you nuts? I will say, yeah, I listen to you named Sabrina and Tate. Sabrina, Tate. Do you know that they both, and I'm

not here to take up to them? Every year but they both, this isn't even Sabrina's first album. Like, this is like four, five, like she's been putting out music. just popped. Tate has been around for a second too, and she's just popping. What I will agree

with you is that there doesn't seem to be as much, removing Tyler, because there's a huge push for her. There doesn't seem to be as much support from whether it's a label, whoever is behind them

with the money doesn't seem to be pushing the black artists out in the same way. I will agree with you with that. And I'm almost positive that Chloe came out. She was doing an interview and kind of alluded to it. She said something like, well, you know, that takes money. Because I remember it getting a little pickup because she's under Beyonce's label. And people thought that that was a little shade when she made the comment.

But somebody was asking her something and she was like, well, that takes money. Part of this is an audience thing. And I'm wondering if the audience for some reason. isn't glomming on to these young black acts. I'm wondering if the audience might be too transfixed if the Rihanna, Beyonce, hold over this, because it started a long time ago. Like, we had a good crop.

We had a good crop. And then the dominance of Beyonce and Rihanna just matted everybody out, right? Just kind of took everybody out. And it seemed as if there's so much tension. talent there that these young sisters were coming up and they were making moves but it doesn't seem

like they're getting the same amount. I'm sorry. I could name you a bunch of, I haven't even got to your my favorite young white act duolipa. Okay. Can it also be the type of music

because the white people you're naming are pop? Normani's pop. It's pop. I don't. I don't know what, and maybe this is some of it, too. I don't really know what Armani. I wouldn't call Armani pop, no Monty Pop, really.

And I don't, and I wouldn't call Chloe that. And I think that that's also some of the issue with, and that's also some of the issue with Chloe is the way that she kind of rolled out. One, it was such a stark contrast. People were like, whoa. Then it seemed like she really didn't have her own identity. And, you know, some days it was more Beyonce. Some days it was Janet Jackson.

And some days that, you know, people were like, who's Chloe as an artist? Hallie hasn't done some individual stuff. She's been doing like one-offs and acting. And who else? And Tyler, again, she's in a different space. So I wonder if it's pop that's making these people pop, whereas the R&B just isn't as popular like it was back in the day.

Because Lizzo's pop and she popped. Yeah. Lizzo's one. I would just say that even with the Lizzo thing, Lizzo popped, and I would say about Lizzo that white audiences accepted Lizzo that didn't accept some of the other acts that I'm talking about. And I'm just trying to act.

Different genres. I'm trying to ask, Lizzo shit. It's like, I don't know. By the way, I'm not saying that there's an industry. wide conspiracy. Some of this stuff may be the audience's inability

to make space for these new artists because they remind them too much or put them in the vein of some of the Titans that are already out. Some of the people that are already out that are already doing their thing, right? So some of it might

be some of the mental space that some of the other, you know, the Beyonce's, the Rianas and all of these people, that they're taken up. Maybe, you know, Chloe comes up under Beyonce. Maybe you compare it to Beyonce. I don't know.

Anyway, I was just thinking about that. I was thinking about that, though. Camille Camillo, she's all that, all super fucking successful and all of that stuff. Normani's very successful and stuff, but Normani's fucking every bit as talented as her, and it just doesn't seem like there's the same amount of support,

but it's not just the label system. It's the audience, too. I just wonder about it. So I want to see them do well. Remember the time that she threw the basketball up and did she hit it with her hip? Do you remember that? Romani did that. She threw the basketball up, she hit it with her hip.

She did it in real time. I've never seen Camilla Cabo do no shit like that. She can't hit a basketball with her hip. Donnie, play that for people if they didn't see the time that Normani threw the basketball up and she hit it with her hip. That's the type of shit I'm talking about. But you know what you're just describing?

That's another thing. I just don't think they rolled her out the right way. When I think of Normani, I think of exactly what you just. said dancing. Dancing and performing before singing. So I'm saying this as somebody who would

consume the music. I want to see her perform and dance. I'm like, oh, they're bringing Normani on stage. It's kind of a little bit of like Tiana Taylor. I'm more than to seeing Tiana Taylor perform and dance than I am to sing. Do you get what I'm saying?

Yeah, but it's like... I think the Tiana Taylor things a little bit different. She's had... Tion Tate has been a long... a long time and she's been with some of the most talented musicians ever. She was with with Yale, you know, and she's made some great music.

I don't know, man. It's just, you know, it is, it's just, it is what it is. You didn't ask her about it. You don't care that they're putting all of this behind her and not Normani. You don't give a fuck about Norma. It was clear. Keep talking for me. Yeah, did you got, I'm I'm speaking for you

in a lot of ways. we're hoping on the podcast that we can get your natural hair flow back. Hairflow gate became crazy on all platforms. Did it? I think you were going to have a field day putting up why they mad at me? Because, man,

they say you can't have, we can't have preference. Yes, and see, this is the problem with clips. Don't come at me and talk to me unless you listen to the whole segment. Because in the segment, I said, I am open to suggestions. I actually like to hear what you like. What I said was

don't tell me after one day how you want to see me the next time you see me. There's a way to do it which you beautifully expressed. So I'm not saying I'm not. I again they can be mad. Donnie pop on real quick.

I got the baby. You got the baby? Say what's up, Junie? What is up? Oh my God. Look at you. You're so happy. Junie. Hi, Junie.

Say, what's up? Donnie. Why? What if we said what's up to Junie and Junie? What's up with y'all niggins? Man, y'all good? Yeah, that would be weird. But look who's talking to in my life.

Yeah. Donnie, why did you cut that clip? Why'd you cut that clip like that to leave out all the context for what Rachel was saying? Why are you put her out there like that? See, the thing is, though, it's supposed to be a. is supposed to bring people to the pods when they can hear more. You don't want to give it all in a clip. But

I do get it because, I mean, the general message of the clip or what Rachel was trying to say might have been lost. So, I mean, you live and you learn. Next time. Give me the full clip so I can say, for all y'all niggas that don't want

to do the work, press play. Donnie, I'll see you. Give me the whole clip. Donnie, I'm going to see you something. my lead in. I'm going to see you something right now to play whenever Rachel

uses the N-word. I don't want to hear the N-word from Rachel. He said, n-knit. I don't hear the N-word from Rachel. It's not that other clip. I want you, there's two clips I want to keep on deck.

One is the nigger bullshit. No. No. But another one is this one. It is just hold on I'm gonna see this right now Donnie I don't want to hear Rachel use the N-word

it's beneath you Rachel I love that you think so highly of me I don't want to hear you say To be honest I didn't even realize I just said it now because the crazy thing is I used to say it and then when I went on The Bachelor my biggest fear was that I was going to say it

in front of the wrong people and on camera and so I stopped And then when I was with my ex, I was like, I also tried not to say it. And so, you know, now that I'm free, I'm bad. I decided, and I'm being very serious about this. Let me hear the clip. I'm going to drop an album. Donnie, do you know what part on that clip you're supposed to go to?

What? What? You touch my stereo. What I tell you about fucking my lover for it? Oh, brother. One, two, three. You look confused, boy. You ready to join the army, nigger?

Nigger. Damn it. So just clip that one part where she says, Nika, and every time Rachel says, What is that from? That's from the Eric Andre show. Malaysia Park was on the Eric Andre show. He's just like, and you looked at it.

You're right to join the arming nicka? He said, nigger, it's funny. That's how I feel when you say the word. Like, nigger, you're talking to. I'm going to drop an album I decided. Seriously, I'm not, like, I'm fucking, I'm fucking being for real. What kind of album, man? It's going to be the music that I like.

I'm going to have Corey produce it. It's going to be called pleasers, teasers, and nutbook excuses. That's the name of the album. Okay, but what kind of music, not the music I like, does that work? Like, are we, is it, is it a specific genre? or you just, it's going to be a little bit of everything. Pop rap. So you created a new genre?

Yep. Well, I mean, they have it, but I'm going to bring more. Who does pop rap? It's a good question. But I mean, Keshire? Flowrider. Flo rider? 100% flow rider.

Wow, that's the company you're keeping? Okay. And a bed at a burbba, dipping the dope. Be the d'i, got a down right, giving the dope. Good for you, Van. I'm dropping. You know, I know you expect me to be negative about that, but good for you. You want to make an album, go for it.

We can't wait to hear it. It's coming out. All right, we got to get to some sobering news after this. Take a little break and come back and check in on what's going on in Florida. Did you know about one in three people with plaques psoriasis may also develop psoriotic arthritis, which causes joint pain, stiffness, and swelling? Does this sound like you? Listen to what it sounds like to be a million miles away.

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16 inches of rain on St. Petersburg, representing a one in 1,000 year rainfall for the area. Third hurricane hit Florida this year, knocked out power for more than 2 million people. President Joe Biden said that he deployed, pre-deployed thousands of federal personnel, two areas affected by the state. It seems as if both the hurricane itself and the response

are being heavily politicized with, of course, people having relevant conversations on both sides of the political aisle, excuse me, both sides of the political issue. How do I say this? They're having relevant conversations about the political causes, I would say. Keep all this in,

because I'm trying to orient my thoughts. I'm not saying that the political issues surrounding the storm aren't valid. Because I don't see why climate change has become a political issue. It shouldn't be. It's an issue of science. And I don't see why the response to a hurricane would also be a political issue. To me, these are two examples of the intractability of current American politics, where it seems that two things that we should care about,

which are people and how they live and the dangers that are knocking at their doors, we can't have those conversations because the politics gets in the way. Climate change should be a conversation that's had, in my opinion, with the future of the human race at the center of the conversation. The response to a hurricane, that conversation should be had with the present of the human beings there at the center of the conversation, but it doesn't seem that we can do either without kicking the can around Washington.

Yeah, I mean, everything is politicized to this point. And you would think, like, this is where it goes back to those conversations of when it comes to issues within the states and dealing with protecting people here, it always seems to be partisan. But when it comes to offering aid to people, outside of America, there seems to be, it always seems to be bipartisan. You can always get on the same page when it comes to that. But when it comes to here, we have to make it red or blue.

When you watch the footage of what happened with prior hurricane and now with this one, Milton, it's gut-wrenching. It's devastating to see how communities are wiped out. There's debris everywhere, flooding and people without millions of people without power. It's like just as they're trying to get back on their feet from the last one, or if they didn't, here comes something else. And the fact that we're fighting over whether or not to give money to the American people is wild to me. And it's something that I will never fully understand.

While we can get it right, I wouldn't say right, but we can get on one accord when it comes to outside of America, but not when it comes within it. Why do you think that's the case? If you have to guess. Money. I mean, I really, it just seems like there have been alliances, I don't, money. I don't really know the geopolitics of it all, so I'm really just guessing. But systems that have been in place for decades or whatever it is that we seem to hold on to

and live by that. And that's why we seem to be able to get all on a court. I'm really just talking. I actually have no idea. I'm not well educated on it either, but can I guess? I just go put me out there. What are you talking about?

I just want to know what you thought. I'm not sure. What are you drinking? What is that? Coffee. What kind of coffee? Just black with some almond milk. Sure.

That's what we back. You shot? Okay, so I don't really know the answer either, but can I try to guess? And then I'll have the audience grade me on my assessment of this. So two reasons. Number one, and this is $10.2, tinfoil hat bullshit. I think that money dumped into the defense spending or even, arms spending to other nations and stuff,

I think that money is very easy to embezzle by the military industrial complex, right? So when we're sending weapons and stuff to people and we're authorizing huge checks to go to whatever foreign place that it's going, the people that actually have a hand in making this government or run, that own politicians and buy up influence and all of that stuff. Boeing, Lockheed, Rakeon, places like that. Exxon, whatever. They get their cut of that. Like when we talk about military aid and all of that stuff,

a lot of that stuff comes back to semi-profit contracts that big companies get and whatever, whatever. So all of that money keeps the pockets filled of the people that actually pull the purse strings in both parts. That's the first thing that I would say. I would think that. The second thing is this. Global dominance is the thing that the United States cares about the most.

So I think that the United States cares more about geopolitical positioning and the domination of the global South and wars that haven't really turned hot with Russia or competition with China or you know, keeping tabs on Iran or maintaining global influence and dominance in places all over the world.

I think they care more about that than they do about 2,500 people in central Florida. And I think I'm, I probably feel that way just because of my experience with Hurricane Katrina and what the best resource nation was able to get done during that time. So if I was to guess why everyone says,

billions of dollars are going over here, billions of dollars are going over here, billions of dollars are going over here. It's America basically saying we're spending all of this money to keep you safe and will keep you safe from enemies that haven't attacked you before will keep you safe from something that's actually about to kill you. Hmm. Listen, I don't know,

but that sounded pretty legit to me. I don't know. It's probably, probably, but I'm just saying to me, I mean, no, that you saying, you talking about, no, you talking about wanting to have this dominance, this global dominance, makes all the sense in the world.

Wanting to have certain positioning in this world. America to be seen as a certain way makes it makes total sense. Still sad though that we can't get our shit together for us. It's very sad. Tell you one thing. We have to get a hold on how we're oriented our society

because if we're anti-vaccin anti-science, then what we're essentially signing up for is measles and hurricanes. measles and hurricanes small pox and tornadoes right these are things that we should be figuring out we shouldn't be going back

to an 1867 type of situation where the storm comes destroys everything and the measles come fuck everything up it's weird it's weird the number one priority

for everyone that's in the federal government in these state and local governments as well should be making sure these people are safe and that they have the resources they need to rebuild and put their families back together after these storms. But we shouldn't be having these storms. You know what, to your point,

it's like if we really want to be seen or positions a certain way globally, how does that work if this country goes to shit? I guess that's something I'm not understanding either. I'm taking your reasoning as the truth. it doesn't make sense for us to be all out of sorts, but be saying that we are who we are globally. Do you get what I'm saying?

I mean, yeah, yeah. Interesting. Interesting, interesting, interesting, interesting. Well, our heart goes out to all the people that are, you know, have suffered through the hurricane. And I can't even imagine. And people still suffering from, what was the other one saying? still suffering from that one too.

The physical emotional stress that a weather event like that puts on a community cannot be overstated. Imagine all the security that you put up with your house. If you're talking about the confluence of income insecurity, wealth insecurity with the little bit that you do have, then being destroyed. I know

healthy older people that died of stress and broken hearts from Katrina because you know what they had spent putting their lives into their homes, their neighborhoods was destroyed in a couple of hours. So my heart goes out to these people

and we're going to make sure that we provide all kinds of resources for people to be able to help anything will help. Okay. Trump time. You love him. He's your faith. You're into him. Okay. So. Bagina. Vagina. Don't do that to me every single time. Don't do it. Bob Woodward. This is interesting. Bob Woodward, that's a new book coming out,

a famed journalist Bob Woodward. That's a book coming out, as a book coming out where he reveals that Trump was on the horn with Putin and he revealed some of Biden's private remarks on Obama and Netanyahu now what we're to believe, according to Bob Woodward, who is as credible and trustworthy as source as we've had in American political journalism,

Trump has had as many as seven private calls with Vlad the Impaler, Vladimir Putin, since leaving office and secretly sent him COVID-19 test machines during the head of the pandemic. This is Bob Woolworth's new book called War. Now, before we get to the stuff about Benjamin Netanyahu and some of the Obama stuff, just the thought of him having talked to Vladimir Putin seven times since he's left office and sending him COVID-19s and has got people going crazy, talking to him. about what the nature of Trump's relationship with Putin is.

We already knew it was kind of, I don't know, chummy. Putin's year, fucking best friends. And it seems as if his relationship with Donald Trump is a little warmer than we even thought that it was. Does it? I mean, obviously the revelation that while many Americans were struggling, dying, trying to get access to things in regards to... the COVID of coronavirus,

he's over there sending stuff, supplies, tests, to Putin. So I, the specifics of it, yeah, are shocking, but the fact that he was communicating with him, I don't think was. I think we, he is, the way he

speaks of Putin always alludes to the fact that they have a warm relationship. So the shocking thing to me are the tests that we're provided when the American people were in the time of need, not to set up phone calls. Well, okay, I agree with you. I would say that the phone calls get me because, you know,

if you don't like the guy, you don't really have to be communicating with him after you're not president anymore, right? Love some. Right. I wonder all kinds of things like this. I do. I wonder. I wonder, I'm stupid enough to wonder,

if Vladimir Putin attacked Ukraine during the Biden administration to twist up the West, causing instability, perhaps making the Trump presidency more likely. It's obvious that- Unlikely? More likely. More likely. It's obvious that Vladimir Putin really enjoys Donald Trump being the president.

So knowing that the situation in Ukraine would stress America, it would squeeze NATO and freak everybody out, I wonder if that's something that you do because you like to be a puppeteer over the American president. And if you're Bob Woodward, and you know this information, Do you save it for your book? Or do you scream to holy heavens? Look what's going on with the goddamn ex-president and the president.

Okay, well, this could be the October surprise because people don't really think it was the unsealing of the indictment. So this could be it. And I guess if I push back on what you said, this could be him crying out about it. His book comes out what next week? This could be it. It's coming out before the election.

I mean, you could say it's a little too late because voting has started. Early voting has started in certain places. But I don't know. I also look at this as when I look at the seven calls, no, it's not shocking that he talks to Putin, but to your point, it's since leaving office. So then my question is, what are you talking about? What are you planning? Because seven calls to me seems like planning. What are you trying to do?

What's the reason to talk? Putin doesn't seem like he just is somebody who just enjoys Trump's company and just wants to check on him and see how he's doing. It seems like these are calls with purpose. That's the alarming thing. And then I don't know if this will have an effect on voters who are still trying to figure it out, which I don't know how you could still be in that position at this point. But if he's having this relationship with him when he's not in the presidency, imagine what will, or as the president, imagine what will happen when he is the president.

This is just foreshadowing the relationship that he will have with Putin, which I think that's why the book's coming out right now when it is. Also, the book details Biden's complicated relationship with Benjamin Nenya, says that the president has called him a son of a bitch and a bad fucking guy

is that Nanyahu's been lying to him regularly newsflash continued to say he was going to kill every last member of Hamas Biden had told him that was impossible

threatening him both publicly and privately look I talked while I was in I'm in Houston I talked with some members of the Muslim community and everyone needs to come the terms with the fact that they're members of the Muslim community

that no matter what are never going to forget the way the Democrats, namely Joe Biden, comported themselves during this war in the aftermath of October 7th. And how do those people feel about the election? We're going to, if it's okay with you, Rach, I think we would have somebody on to talk about it. I don't want to speak for them. But we had conversations. And these are people that are at a democratic event. Now, I'm not Democrat.

I go where my policies and when my politics and policies align. I have alignment with people. And I tend to caucus with the left. I was there. But you get into a conversation and you talk to some people and they start telling you about how they actually feel over some cocktails. Cocktails.

Why are they cocktails? Why the cock? Do we know this? Donnie, look that up for me. No, Don't. Don't. Don't. I think it's going to do with the bird, but go ahead. Keep going.

Does it have to do with the bird, the cocktail? It's got to. It's got to. Is it a cocktail? Is that a bird? A male chicken. No, the tail of a male chicken, yeah. A cocktail.

A male cheese, you know, the cocks crow. I never thought about it that much. I never, why is it a cocktail? You know what I'm saying? saying? Okay, 17th century. Original use was an adjective describing, okay, wait, let me fine, hold on, I'm just reading.

Yeah. Go ahead. No, no, okay, I need, I mean, we want the answer, Donnie. We want the answer. We can't move on now. He can't move on. The original use was an adjective describing a creature with the tail like that of a cock, specifically a horse with a docks tail. Having

a cocktail horse, like I'm trying to find the drink analogy. Oh, wait, is perhaps analogous from the idea of an adulterated spirit. I don't know. That's not a good answer. Anapultorated spirit. So does the cocktail have to do with Dick?

No, there's no way that that. Why is it a cocktail? You know? Why not a vagina tale? The first written mention of a cocktail as a beverage appeared in 1803. The first definition, I don't know. These aren't real answers. You don't know.

They're keeping it from us. Let me ask you a question. And this is serious now. I'm seriously asking this question. If, all right, I'm going to ask you guys a question right now. And Rachel, I don't mean to get vulgar, all right? But we're here now. Yeah, you do.

You don't give up. So the opposite, the opposite of the word, Dick, is what? I don't know. Donnie, Rachel doesn't want to answer it. She's, she's, she's, she's, well, no, let me tell you why. Because if you had said penis, I would have said vagina. Okay. So then the opposite of Dick is what?

This is the easy one. Coochie? No, it's not bad. But the opposite of dick is, Donnie, what's the opposite of dick? It's pussy. It's pussy. Oh, yeah, I shouldn't know that. The opposite of dick is pussy.

I wasn't even trying to not say it. What's the opposite of cock? Coochie. So it's dick pussy cock coochy. Donnie? I don't agree because I feel like cocked. is a white man's word and a white man's not saying koochee. So it's got to be something else.

Oh, I got it. Oh, it could be twat. It could be twat. Only the nastiest white women use twat, by the way. If you hear twat, you got to go to the clinic. So like, cunt. Go ahead. I think it's cunt.

I think it's dick, pussy, cock, cunt. No? I think it is. I think it's dick, pussy, cock, cunt. God, I won't go off like this. Donnie, what do you think? It's Twat. You think it's Twat?

Donnie's not going to say that word. Yeah, I think, I don't know. Wait a minute. My mind honestly went to cut before Plot or Cucci. So I'm leaning towards Van, but I feel like there is a right answer here and we're missing it. I think it's, so if I think it's dick, pussy. that's obvious. I think the opposite of cock

would have to be cunt. Because when you're talking about white people in the way that they say what they say and do what they do, the nasty, weird, it's cock. Oh, yeah, cock. You know why I hate this?

Why? Because I've spent all yesterday promoting higher learning and talking about the podcast and what we do and encouraging people to listen to our podcast. And here we are talking about coochies and cops

in the middle of talking about this bombshell of a book that's coming out next week. I apologize for all the new listeners that I recruited to this podcast were better than this. We could have saved this towards the end. Well, I will say that we are going to have to break this out and ask the audience.

No, I do. No. We are going to have to. Because we have to move on. Because we were at, we start off. We have to. We just started off with me, want to know where Cotail came from.

Donnie couldn't provide the answer. So, but. And then you gave us an insight to how your mind thinks. Like, this is, this is the out of the school. First of all, I apologize. Okay.

And you know what to rule it. All our new listeners, you have the age. First of all, I apologize. And we know what the rule is. I apologize. You got to move on. I got the answer.

Boom. What's up? Okay. It says there's a hypothesis, though. So it evolved from the French coccature for egg cup, which allegedly was used to serve guests, a mix of cognac with a dash of bitters. Several authors also claim that it may be a corruption of the word cock ale,

which was a popular specific type of drink in the 17th and 18th century. Well, anyway, I was talking to members, of the Muslim community and they were telling me about how they felt, and I think that we should bring some of them on the podcast so that we have a nuanced discussion of political expectations in terms of how things

are going, and how the Muslim community feels. We just had the one year anniversary of October 7th, and I know that there was tremendous pain in the Jewish community

surrounding the event. And that was, you saw that, you felt that. It was all over the place. I think there's also, and that pain should be recognized and understood. And I'm embarrassed that we didn't commemorate it here. We should definitely talk about it. We also have to remember that there are tens of thousands of dead in Palestine. there's increased violence and settler violence going on in the West Bank happening in Gaza.

Of course, it's being spread to Lebanon and different places like that. You're seeing civilian deaths and things. So I think that we're at a particular point where the Muslim community feels a particular unsafeness. And I think that, you know, once I start to speak to some people, I started to see and be able to feel some of the animus that they have towards the administration. And whereas I don't think

these weren't people that were, once I said, they were at a democratic situation. These weren't people that were like, they weren't using the term genocide Joe or anything like that. But I think we have to have a conversation of how there is a reckoning and a mending of what was a pretty strong political coalition. If you want to.

If not, we could. I would be very interested in having the conversation, especially coming into an election. I want to hear what they would want. Wait, I want to hear how they're voting, how they reconcile it if they are voting, and what their expectations are, you know, should Kamala Harris get into office. And maybe what their fears are if she doesn't. Like, I'm very interested in it. Did you know about one in three people with plaques psoriasis may also devise. may also develop psoriatic arthritis,

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Visit weathertech.com today. Rachel, did you hear the new J. Cole record? I didn't. I saw that he did release something where he addressed what's been going on between Drake and Kendrick, but I didn't get to listen to it. What were your thoughts on it? This is my thoughts.

So J-Call released a record called Port Antonia, which I thought that this record, when I hear Port, I think of Taylorport. Do you know what that is? No. Donnie, do you know Taylor Port? I do. Break it down to Rachel.

It's this strong wine that comes in. It's a wine, yeah. I think it's only read. I've only had it once and kind of recently, actually. And yeah, it's like it's stronger than normal. I don't think it tastes good, but, and I think you might agree. But yeah, it's a strong wine. High alcohol content.

Get fucked up off that Taylor Port. Is it boxed wine? No. but it's like it's like the present day version of Ripple you get fucked up off that Taylor Port

you know whatever man you're not fucking with that Taylor Port shout out to my people up in New York put me on that table We gotta stop detouring

keep going I apologize um Port Antonio's the name of the song and he talks about the song uh you know where Cole is right now fantastic rapping

as you'll always get with Jake Cole but he also talks about sort of why he bowed out of of the beef and why he is still indebted to Drake because of things that Drake has done for him. And some of the lyrics are pretty cool. Yeah, he says, I still fuck with you, Drake. Drake, you've done a lot for my career. He says it in there, you know.

He also says that at one point. Drake has one friend. He's got one friend. He also says in there, he says, I tried to stand in the middle of them like Michael in the beat it video. Basically what he says, you know, when Mike's wearing a red. Of course. And he says, you know, because what happens after that

is heavy metal. Heavy metal gets to pop and, you know, the guns and stuff like that. Jay Cole is a fucking... Very good. Yeah. But a lot of people are like, shut the fuck up, Cole.

A lot of, I mean, like, a lot of people are, like, this is his sort of take on everything that happened. But a lot of people are like,

we ain't trying to hear that shit now from you, Cole. Great, great song, great rap. And always gonna be with Jake Cole. But a lot of people are like, uh, take that shit somewhere. I got to listen to the whole thing.

I, I, without even listening, I'm very curious and kind of glad that he said something because, you know, we saw him do his thing on stage, apologized for the song, didn't want to be a part of it, nothing. So I kind of liked the J. Cole perspective. He was in it in the beginning. People just want to have something to say, can we get back to the Woodard book? Okay. You didn't finish. You didn't finish.

I was finished. That was it. Were we done? Were we done? Because I thought you said that you were going to talk about Biden and his thoughts about... I mentioned it. Okay. I mentioned Biden.

We're done. Oh, I apologize. No, no, no. We started talking about the people that you met. You know, you spoke with the Muslims at the Democrats. Well, that's because of the Biden thing. That's because of the whole deal. That was a segue into that to talk about that.

Then, you know, Donnie, leave all of this in. I like to be checked in real time. No, no, no, I just thought, you know, we've been detouring quite a bit this podcast. And so I didn't know if you meant to come back to anything in the book. But okay. Okay. Like, we talked about it or not. To me, if you learn something like that, you need to tell people right away.

But I'm not even getting to them. I agree. I do agree with you. But this man's trying to make somebody. Fuck his fucking book. At the expense of the American people. I'm fucking with it. Like the government.

Like the government. Like the government, everything. No, Jay Cole, yeah. So, you know, this is what I'll say about the whole thing. It's great, good rapping and all of that. But it does seem like a situation where now Cole probably needs to shut up while the grown folks is talking. That's how it feels.

Oh, you, that's how you feel? A little bit. While the grown folks are talking? Wow. Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. What happened with the beef to me was at the beginning of it, a lot of people were doing a lot of talking.

Remember, this started off as a 20V1, future, Metro, Kanye, everybody going in on Drake. All of that stuff fizzled away. It all went away. All of those other voices became less and less important than more that they talked. even the whole BBL Drizzy thing

was very, very funny. Shout to King Walon. This was come up this year a talented guy. All that stuff fizzled away. And what happened was the two big dogs in this situation,

the two big dogs ended up being the two having the conversation. Everybody else fizzled away. Ross fizzled away. Future fizzled away. Metro fizzled away. Like, everybody fizzled

Kanye fizzled away. Everyone fizzled away. There was a lot of fizzling going on. Two people left. Two people left. These were the two big dogs having the conversation. And unfortunately, Cole was a part of the fizzle. He's a fizzler.

He is. He's a fizzler. He fizzled. He literally just left. He fizzled. He just walked away. He was in the middle of it. By the way, I'm not saying that he shouldn't have done that

because he ended up doing the right thing, but he fizzled. And so now, after he fizzled, you can't unfizzle, you fizzled. So I think this probably would have been better or not, better left addressed in like an interview or something like that. It's a good rap and good song, but I can't really judge it in terms of the narrative with the whole beef and all of that stuff.

It just has to be judged as a J. Cole song. And J. Cole is just one of the best rappers that's ever. We disagree. We, I disagree because it was about J. Cole, Drake, and Kendrick in the beginning. Jay Cole didn't fizzle. He bounced out. I am a person who's curious as a, as Jay Cole who bowed out and then watched along with everybody else. And it could have been a whole different situation if he was in it for him, for Drake and Kendrick involved.

Who knows? This whole thing could have been different. I'm curious as a person who was originally named and now took himself out what he thinks. now that all of this has come out. Let me, let me doubt. I like to hear his thoughts. Yeah, let me tell you something right now. Let me get Rachel right now.

I'm about to get Rachel. You're not curious. You don't really care. Why? Because you haven't listened to the record. Yes. When that, when that, when that Kendrick dropped, you was all on it. You love you some Kendri.

I was fumbling. I was fumbling. I was fumbling. I was trying to get to the kid. When that Kendrick dropped, Rachel was all over. What is Kendrick going to say? Because you know this dropped. You might be curious when you're somewhere having a cocktail with on a one nigger night.

You might listen to it then. You know what I'm saying? You might listen to it then. But really, this shit, you don't, you don't really give us fuck about that. The people listening to the, like, you don't care. Like you, the people that you care about talking about this stuff is Drake and Kendrick at this point. Cole is fucking the greatest. I like Cole probably just rapping.

I like Cole probably better than either of those guys. Just rapping. I really, really like Kendra. I really like Drake. But I like just rapping. I probably like Cole the most. But he fizzled. He chose to fizzler.

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Kamala Harris went on the podcast Not a podcast, you're on a series What you want to talk about? Trump or Kamala? I mean, I think quickly touch on both. I don't think that there's too much to say about either one. Kamala went on Howard Stern.

She levied criticism Donald Trump's way. Donnie. Audio, please, my brother. Doesn't support our friend Ukraine doesn't support, therefore, something America should always, and has always, by the way, been a champion of, which is the importance of sovereignty and territorial integrity, which means the importance of standing against anyone who tries to take another nation by force.

Right. That's what we stand for as Americans, that you don't do that. And if you do that to our friends, we're going to stand with our friends. It's a, you're getting played, and some would say, look, I grew up in the neighborhood, some would say you're getting punked. Yeah. If you stand in favor of somebody who's an adversary over your friends on principles that we all agree on. And you look at it, it's not only that.

He says he's going to be a dictator on day one. Punk's funny and very, very telling. What do you think about her use of the term punk? I have thoughts. I have thoughts about her using that term. talent? Yeah. I mean, when I heard this, she said it,

or when I heard her say it, I thought, I thought she was trying to bait him similar to the way that she did in the debate because that's a word that he can't handle that's in reference to him. That's how I looked at it. Like, she's saying words that are going to trigger him

into unraveling even more. How did you take it? That's actually very, very, that makes a lot of sense. I get that. That's a... Yeah. Yeah.

I'm with it. Yeah. I get that. That's good. Okay. Thank you. It's great. Also, though, I think that Kamala,

in her attempt to appeal to male voters in different places that she's at, you know, she's on Howard Stern. That's a place to appeal to a... think maybe not as much now as it would have been 20 years ago, but that is a place to appeal to a white male voter. I mean, this isn't the whack packer. A whack pack era, Howard Stern from like 2005, 2004, 2003, some of the best worst content ever, ever. If you want to be entertain, go back and listen

to an argument between Sal the stockbroker and Artie Lang on the Howard Stern show from like 2003, 2004. Like, when the whack pack was all together, it was completely un-PC, sexes, racist, vile, all of that stuff. But that shit was fucking funny and really entertained.

It was a great fucking show. I don't care. It's not quite that anymore. But that's still the DNA of the show. So when you go on there now and you're saying that Trump is getting punked, you're kind of speaking their language a little bit. And I think that's what she's trying to do when she's talking to the Howard Stern audience. I got to agree with you.

I got to agree with you. I mean, there was a lot of talk about her going on. Not just the fact that she went on. It was a talk that she was a little bit more personal than we've seen her. Like, he didn't really hit her on the politics. it was more about we kind of saw a different side of her

where we got to know her a little bit better which I think it's nice to see because we've been seeing her make the rounds and she might be saying some of the same things and answering the same questions that she's been answering so this was a little bit more of like

who is Kamala Harris as a person but I think that it was good for her to go on this show because to your point he has a lot of males and a lot of white males that listen to the show. And he endorsed her.

He shit on Trump. And he endorsed her to his majority male audience. And so I think that I don't know if it'll sway, but I think it's a powerful move that he had her on. It was a nice conversation. And he was very complimentary to her. Yeah. He's moved to the left pretty strongly.

and mellowed in, I'd say, the last 10 years. So maybe this is not the bombshell that it would have been in back in the day or whatever. However, he is still Howard Stern and he is still a fantastic interviewer, and I thought it was a good idea for her to do it. I thought she came across pretty well on it. Trump, well, before we go on, she said her favorite cereal special cake. I don't know about that. You don't believe it.

She don't need cereal. You say Raisin Brand, too. She said Raisin Brand too. So I have to be honest, and those are two of the wackest answers that you could have. Now, it depends on which special K, though. I'll be honest. So they have... I tried to sneeze.

What the fuck is happening? Rachel, what the shit? I tried to sneeze. Donnie, run that back, bro. Rachel was... I was about to sneeze, and then I laughed at what you said. They both came out in the same time. What the fuck?

It scared me too. It scared me too. Oh my God. It scared me too. You almost killed me. Now, if you have the special K, there are also, there are different special Ks that are good. Like, the regular special K is terrible. But like, if you get like special K with the strawberries or like fucking almond, toasty special K, you can do okay. But I wouldn't have gone with special K.

I feel like that's a politician's answer. We all know that. It sounds like it. And I don't even eat cereal. And I was like, I don't know about that. What's the best cereal? I don't eat cereal because I don't like milk. That's right.

But if I was eating cereal like as a snack, cinnamon toast crunch, I always liked. I always liked, I liked Cheerios too. Okay. As a snack. And I used to eat fruit loops as a snack. I bet you did. Donald Trump went over to the Flagrant podcast with

Andrew Schultz and a car scene. No surprise there. And he talked about a couple of different things. He talked about his assassination. And he also said that he is a basically truthful person. This audio's been making a rounds. This video's been making rounds. Donnie playing for us.

But I always refer him back to the simplicity of McDonald's. She lied about McDonald's. She lied about many things. And she's a liar. There should be some kind of a round. rule. When they know it's a lie, you can't do a commercial on it. But this is a thing that's going to end in 29 days so they can say what they want. I have a hard time doing it to them because I'm basically a truthful person. But, and frankly, she's giving me so much ammunition. I don't really have

to. She's a radical left lunatic. What did you think of him saying that? What did you think of the response? well what do I think of him saying it I think he believes every word that he says he does believe that he's a truthful person

he believes everything that he says I don't think he thinks any of it is a lie their response was laughing in his face I guess that's a response I don't know

what you really want me to say to that I mean I what I found interesting about him on there was him explaining what he called

the weave. Didn't you see this? I did not see this part. Did I miss something that was awesome? Well, he's like explaining his rambling as the wee. He calls it, it's like a genius thing that he does, his words, where he knows he goes off. He goes off, he'll be talking about one thing and he goes off and like starts bringing up random stuff that makes no sense, but then he brings it back to his point.

And he says, that's a genius thing. that he does. And nobody else can do it like if he calls it the weave. I can think Trump. Yeah, play it. Go ahead. Go ahead. Dwight Eisenhower was sort of a moderate, general Eisenhower. Did you know that they had 8% generals president of the United States, 8% were generals, 92% were politicians, and then you had Trump. See, that's a weave. You know, we go off and just for that. I like that. Because now I'm like, where we weave into it. I'm into. I'm into. I'm into. No, no, think of it because we're talking about generals, and then you get back on to the general.

There you go. Because what I was going to say is that Eisenhower... I like to play-by-play for the week. No, it's good, though, isn't it great? We're going to it. We mentioned Eisenhower, and then I say, he was a general, 8% generals, 92% and now you go back, okay?

It's part of the weave, you know? Then you go back. No, you got to keep it all together. You got to be sharp. If you're not sharp, you're dead. Let's move to something else with this. If Donald Trump went to come on higher learning, would you have him on? Yes.

You have to. You got to do it. I don't think that... I would do it. Yeah. I don't think that he would come because I think Donald Trump and to a degree, Kamala Harris, in these podcasts, are only playing home games. Oh, so he went home on the Flaggart podcast. Oh, that's a home.

That was home. Yeah, that's a home. But like if it's a home game in the same way, it's not a home game. It's not the ideological home game that people might think it is, but it's a home game because it's not a place that is going to interrogate policy. And that's all you need for it to be a home game. It doesn't, all you need for it to be a home game is to not get resistance. If you, like Theo Vaughn, Theo Vaughn had Bernie on there,

Theo Vaughn had Trump on there. That's a home game for both. guys Theo Vaughn is going to vibe out with you that he's going to crack jokes with you he's going to do the whole thing right when you go on Aiden Ross that's a home game because that guy's a sick of him for you right

but a lot of these pods like if he went on POD save America not a home game right not a home game if Kamala went on Dan Boingingo not a home game right If she goes on Ben Shapiro, not a home game.

Those podcasts, either candidate isn't going to do. They're not going to do a podcast where they sit down for an hour with someone who interrogates their worldview to the eighth degree. If Trump went on Breakfast Club, would it be a home game? No, it couldn't be. It couldn't be. Breakfast Club is not allowed to do that. And I think that when people have had the highest criticism of Breakfast Club, it's been when they felt like it was that with like a candace or something like that.

But breakfast club, because if, first of all, if Donald Trump goes on. I'm genuinely asking. I'm serious, but I'm genuinely answering. Oh, Danny. So if Donald Trump goes on the breakfast club, first of all, Angela's going to beat it. And if Angela rise there, it certainly will not be hung it. That's the first thing. Secondly, if he goes on the breakfast club,

the breakfast club is going to ask questions that they think black Americans want to know the answers to. And those questions are not going to be questions that are going to be comfortable for Donald Trump. You're going to have to ask Donald Trump about reparations if he goes on the breakfast club. You're going to have to ask him about Charlottlesville, neo-Nazi, proud boys type of stuff.

You're going to have to do that. It would be malpractice if they didn't, so it can't be a home game. Well, to your point, home games aren't just about, it's the pushback. It's the interrogation. I ask because of how they handled the Candace Owen's interview. Let's just say Angela wasn't there for that. So I'm assuming, you know, I can't promise Angela be there.

She's not a regular member of the breakfast. She's there almost every single time they do a political interview. Her or somebody else. She wasn't for the hours. Yeah. And I guess my. my thing is, if they ask the question, that's fine. Would they interrogate?

It's more of why I was asking. Or not interrogate. I mean, would they push back? Which is more of why I was asking, would that be considered a home game? Not because they're pro-Trump, just because what, like, we go back and forth with people on our podcast. You know, like a Larry Elder situation, that's more of what I met. I can't say something about the Larry Elder situation, though. I'll be honest about the Larry Elder thing.

I didn't want to fucking argue with Larry Elder. I know you didn't. Larry came on and Larry was like, let's fucking get to it. Like, Larry, I said, Larry, how's your day been going? My day's been going great. The sun is shining.

Fuck you, man. Whoa, Larry. Larry, what? Like, what, Larry, what are you doing? Larry, you're running for president. Yeah, I'm running for president to keep this country from niggers like you. Larry, what the fuck?

What are you doing? That's how Trump would be. So it would be inevitable to not have a back and forth with them. It would be inevitable. I wish you would have come on the podcast, though. I would love it. Yeah. Is it time for mailback or do we have to talk about the Met?

I don't, okay. So I don't understand. I don't understand. What are you not? Can you do this one? I don't understand what's happening. I don't understand. I do not get it.

Okay. Okay. You know that every year they have a thing. for the Met Gallo. Like, it's like, I don't know what it was last, but it's always, it's very campy.

It's, you know, midnight summer dream or American something. Well, they announced this year the new thing, and it's super fine, tailoring black style. And it's a focus on the history

of the black dandy and the way Peacock goes beyond aesthetics to empowerment. They've named the co-chairs of the gala, which it's historic and that it's five black men, A sap Rocky, Coleman Domingo, Lewis Hamilton, and I said five. Oh, Ferell Williams and LeBron James.

It's going to be an honorary chair. So this had a lot of people talking because the first thing you saw was black dandy. And I think a lot of people were like, what's black dandy? What does that mean? Well, the first picture I saw looked like Lakeith Stamfield and get out the way that he was dressed. That's the first thing I saw. I see this guy. And so a lot of people were like, well, what is this? And I looked up an article about it explaining like what is this theme and what does it mean? There's a book. It says the theme is inspired by co-curator and professor

I guess Monica Miller wrote this book in 2009 Slaves to Fashion, Black Dandyism and the styling of the black identity. I just, here's my thing. I don't know what this style really is. And my confusion is, how do non-blacks

go about dressing this way to the Met Gallo, which will be the majority of the people there? That's where I guess I'm confused. I don't know this. It just feels wrong. I don't. It feels wrong? Donnie,

I really don't know. I really fucking have no clue. Wouldn't like Jadena, isn't that like a black dandy? Wouldn't he be like a dandy? That's dandy. I kind of think I get it. I guess I was thinking like early.

Like Zootzoo. Like the 1900s. You know, like Zootzoo guys. And it's dandy. They're flashy. They're, you know, coming on that type of shit right it just seems to be all over the place but the word dandy i don't know

i guess my first thought was the get out because that's the first picture that i saw and i thought well what is this how are these people going to be dressing and it seems to be all over the place like they're i've seen them say examples like Andre 3 000 um um asap rocky style like all these these are different styles i don't know if it's just celebrating black men and fashion and i guess just that, but it kind of had people confused as to what is this look and it seems like close to the time

of slavery. So I just I don't I'm not the only one who was thinking like this. So what is black dating? We got to relax. I'm not the only one. Somebody will fuck up.

You guys mark this down. You guys mark mark this down. Mark this date right here. some white person will fuck up. They will fuck up. They will fuck up at the Met Gowl. And that's okay, right?

They're going to do it no matter what happens. They will fuck up at the Met Gowl. They'll come there. They'll go black dandy. They'll darken their skin. They'll come in like fucking dressed up like Samadie Jr. Some weird ass shit. But they will fuck up.

However, I don't think the idea of a super fashion forward, flamboyant black dress. Man is necessarily negative. You know? Well, it's the interesting title, but still, I'm looking at this and saying, you know, fancy black guys, Andre Leon Talley. They're saying, but see, like,

that's just a suit. I guess that's what I'm saying. Like, it's all, if you're just celebrating black style, black men and fashion, fine. But the whole, I think the dandism of it, like, I'm looking at another quote that says it's going to illustrate how black people transformed from being enslaved. to the style. You know what I'm saying?

It's connected to slavery. And that's where I'm like, I understand you're trying to do something historic. I'm not trying to pick it apart. In that sense, it just seems a little confusing and it seems to be closely related to slavery and it seems to open up the door. Like, what if somebody comes with a knapsack?

The stick, the knapsack, you know, it's campy. I know. I mean, that's what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, I'm not going to With cotton. I'm not going to. Like it's opening up the door for it.

I'm not going to bed wet about it. I'm not going to be like, oh my God. Something's going to go wrong. But I understand that whenever you open the door, the motherfucker puts their crack of foot through it. So I get it that that could happen. But I don't know. Who they got doing it?

LeBron, Coleman Domingo. Coleman Domingo is a dandy. Dandyish. I love. It's just stas. I love. his style. He's one of the best dressed people. He liked to show chess.

One reason why... Yeah, he does. One reason why I am still on my... I'm up to 80 push-ups today, by the way. Wow. Yeah, up to 80 push-up to day. That's nowhere near than my push-ups I used to be able to do. But one reason why I still want to work my chess out

work it is because I want to be able to show chess. See, Colman Domingo shows chess. I show cleavage and it's different. So he shows chat. I want to be able to show a little chest. I want to be able to wear one of those those joints.

It comes like this. It's like a you. Donnie, you know what I'm talking about? Huh? No, it's like it's a shirt where it comes like this and the whole middle of the chest is out. Yes.

Donald Glover wears them too. I'm going to start wearing that shit. I support it. I support it. Yes, it's Coleman, it's ASAP, it's Farrell, it's LeBron, and Lewis Hamilton. And I have a hint of taco meat. But mine doesn't beat up.

It lays down. There's nothing wrong with taco meat. There's nothing wrong with chest air. Oh, father, daddy, where are you? You've abandoned me, father. Okay. I don't want to talk about Kendra Perkins. and the NIL thing.

I think we're done. I think it's over. Mailback, quick mailback, quick mailback, quick mailback, quick mailback, quick, quick. Mailback time. Time to read your letters and then we'll reply to them. Oh, it's mailback time. Write us with your queries and we'll chime in. All right, real fast.

asked. Becdell Broad asked, do you have any teachers that you will always hold a grudge against? No van does. Actually, no. I've had teachers that have said stuff, but I'm not good at holding a grudge. So actually, no. No.

I'm not. I don't hold grudges either. Yeah, I don't hold grudges. Dang, that was disappointing. That's all right. I had a teacher in the sixth grade. I don't remember her name. Social Studies. You just had to ask you, they did it?

I'm just saying, you don't give anything. You didn't answer the question. Donnie, go for it, Donnie. Did you pick this fucking question? You're trying to get some shit off your chest right now. Get your shit off. Go for it, Donnie. I'm just saying there was a teacher who I specifically remember was she used to call

W.E.B. Du Bois, W.E.B. Dubois. And I thought that was wrong. And I was like, are you sure it's not Dubois? And she was like, it's Du Bois. And since then, she would call. call me out for like little things. I was a teenager. I had a pimple. And she was like, hey, you got something on your face.

And then it was a pimple. Oh, my God. I know. Everybody laughed. So forever, F that teacher. What's her name? Don't remember. I don't remember.

I don't remember. I don't remember. I can just see her face. I don't remember. What was the school? What was the, give it all to us. Roseville Middle School. Oak Park, Michigan.

There's no way she's still there. But she black or white? She might be out there terrorizing other students. She was black. She was black. She was a young black lady. She was new to teaching, so we probably was giving her a hard time. But I wasn't.

I was a good student, and you called me out by my pimple. All right, Visual Garage wants to know. Big Rach slash Vang, if you could have a conversation with your past self, what advice would you give? Hmm. How past are we going? Because immediate past, I would have said, get a pre-nop. That's really the advice that I have for myself.

I mean, It's true. It's true. No matter what they say, don't let them talk you into not getting it. I do not in any way demand that you guys consume this podcast in any particular way.

But you have got to see that on video. You have to see that on video. Rachel settled into that one. Like a firefighter settling into the cockpit of an F-16 hornet. There goes that cock again. Okay, that's what you would tell your five-year younger self. Seven. Yeah.

Don't let them talk you out of it. My younger son. Oh, you guys ask this question, and I have to answer it honestly. Stop jacking off. is what I would tell my young self. Stop it. The porn thing is going to go too far. Okay, stop it before you start.

I remember a phone call. I called to order Pam and Tommy Lee's Celebrity Sex Tate porn. And the woman was like, we're an extra 89. I can give you girls' fours five with Kobe Tai. And I was like, yeah, yeah. And she goes on top of that with $2.99.

You can get blah, blah, blah. And I was like, yeah, yeah. After that, it was done. It was, I knew now. That's how you started? It's not how I started. I was always kind of years into the life by then. But that's when I knew that I could just buy it and they would give it to me.

The thing about the thing that's tough about porn that's different about almost everything else is that they don't have any problem over. serving you. No one cuts you off. Like if you're at the bar, you're too drunk, or if you're around your friends and you're too drunk and all of that stuff, somebody comes and they say stop. But porn, no one tells you to stop. There's no person that comes up. The porn companies don't go, hey, that's enough porn today, buddy. That would be funny too. That would be so funny if you logged on the porn hub and they were like, no more for you. You've hit your limit. You've hit your goal. today. But no one does that. So you go further, further and further and further.

Before you know it, you got 65 tabs open, whatever. I would say cool it. And I was able to tell myself, cool it. But it came years and years and years and years and years after. Actually, Kulikin hit it. But at the same time, it came on. That's why I would tell him. Hey, young band, go touch grass. All right? Got out of the house.

That's it. Donnie took up a lot of space trying to get back at that teenager. Donnie was so ready. Donnie asked the question. Y'all stayed nothing. We didn't have any answer. Donnie was like, let me tell you about this bitch from back in the day, man. Dog-ass bitch looking at my motherfucking.

Are we recording next week? Wellness Week. Yeah. Are we not? Oh, is it Wellness Week? You want to take the week? No, it's Indigenous People's Day on Monday when we normally record. Nah, we got to take it off.

We got to take the day off. Y'all's call. I'm down to still work and take another day off. Yeah, that's real. We got to respect. We got to take the day off. Either we, if we can't line up something with an indigenous person to spotlight them, if we are going to record, it would have to be all about indigenous people.

I don't want to work on the day that we're supposed to be thinking about them. So we'll work. it out. We'll talk about that off the podcast. Take the thing caps off, but do not stop learning on Van Lathan, Jr. I'm Rachel and Lindsay. Hi, guys.