Historically High - Adolf Hitler Part 2 - Seizing Power

Episode Date: September 27, 2023

It's here folks, the epic finale to our episodes discussing Hitler's rise to the Chancellor of Germany and the beginnings of World War 2.  Recently released from prison, with his political party outl...awed, and his ability to speak in public banned, how does Hitler find himself on a path directly to ultimate power in Germany. Deciding the whole "over throwing the government with a violet coup" thing isn't working. He attempts to navigate the waters of politics to attain his definitive goal, to become the Fuher of Germany through "Legal Means". Why are you still reading this, hit play. Support the show Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:06 We are in session and we are back. And I hope you were with us from last week. We got part two of Hitler. I'm so tired. It's a lot. I'm not going to let of you guys. It's a whole lot. A lot of research, like we said before, a lot of boards were made, a lot of notes were done.
Starting point is 00:00:23 And I really could not do, couldn't even start to do any of this without my buddy, my co-host. He's a softball champion. He's got a golf game that I strive to get to. And it is not good. Sometimes he rhymes fast. Sometimes he rhymes slow. He is Professor Chris. Salutation, everyone.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Goodentog, if anyone is listening over in Germany on this. If you are, just to understand we're not talking about you when bad things get said about Germans. Yeah, yeah, definitely not. I'd love to go see Germany. Yeah, exactly. Look where we are. I mean, we're not, I mean, we can throw stones at this a little bit more, but it's not like, you know, anyone's response. for this right now.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Hitler, man, where did we last, where did we, on last week's episode of Adolf, Hitler had been led out of jail after serving only 264 days out of a five-year sentence for treason. And now that he's back, he's got, you know, Adolf's got a brand new bag. He's going to try to go about this thing maneuvering through politics, but it's going to make it kind of difficult because along with the release comes a couple conditions. One of them being is that his precious Nazi party is now outlawed. Another one being that he is not allowed to do public speaking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:50 So the two things that provided him, and from the court's perspective, this should have been it. These are two things, if they're going to let him out early, they're taking away his two weapons. The party that supports him and gives him some type of power, and then his ability to drive. up support by not being able to do public speaking. Yeah. So, strap in. Hopefully we can get this knocked out. It's only going to be two.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I promise it's going to be two. It's not going to be a long two, hopefully. But yeah, let's get rolling. See how he settles a new landscape. All right. So he's out. He's about his plan essentially takes a hit when he first gets out because he's a dude that thrives in chaos.
Starting point is 00:03:02 The only way that his party is able to gain power in what, want to do air quotes legitimately is there has to be chaos occurring around him so much so that it makes extremist ideas not even look good just looks so different from what's causing all of the issues that people are like fuck it why not give this to try to see if it could fit we can't get any worse so that's what he's aiming for he walks out into a world that has just absolutely fucked up that plan too because we have a little something called the dawes act that was enacted to sort of take the burden off of the reparations that were paid. And Germany gets better. Basically, what the Dawes Act was,
Starting point is 00:03:42 it was a, I think it was a governmental, um, it was, uh, economic, like stimulus provided by the United States to essentially help out with the hyperinflation that had been, essentially since Hitler was put in prison, has been just beating up essentially the country. And really, the only drawback to this was, um, back in episode one when you were talking about how long the payments will go to a hotel until about 1984. That was all part of the Dawes Act and kind of a following act that came after that. But pushing that can down the road had allowed Germany to be able to start rebuilding and kind of start changing, kind of start going back in the right direction. Everything was heading in the right direction.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Even more so, he came out. And in the meantime, Germany had joined the League of Nations. Which is a very big monkey wrench to a guy who just tried to take over and it failed. And not only that, but so the League of Nation is essentially the Pre-Eague of Nation is essentially the Pre-Eanation. precursor to the United Nations. Think of it as the UN being formed after World War II. It was just formed during after World War I. And you have somebody that even though that this is supposed to, you know, bring Germany into the international community and everything like that, help to contribute, what it does for Hitler is, and all these people that are these nationalists, is they
Starting point is 00:04:58 see it as basically a giant betrayal, basically saying, now you're putting us into bed with the people that have been making, not only that say that they were the victors in the Great War, when we still believe that we should have been the victors, but you're basically crawling into bed and cozing up with the people that have made our lives what we feel like hell for the last few years. At the same time, though, the greater reach
Starting point is 00:05:21 that he wanted to get from those people, the middle class, the higher class, they're back to kind of living their lives in a good way again. So to really be able to reach them, he's got to start changing these tax. And as you had said earlier, he was banned from public speaking. The Nazi party was banned. January 4th, 1925, Hitler met with the Bavarian Prime Minister Heinrich Held.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And he promised. He probably didn't get on his hands and knees, but he's like, man, look me in the eyes when I tell you this. I'm going to use the Democratic system this time. No more beer hall poaches for me. No more screwing the pooch. No more backroom deals. I'm not going to hold anybody hostage anymore. We're doing this legit.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I'm going 100% legitimate. And I don't know if he had his fingers crossed or his toes crossed, but he really wanted to try to get this across. It must have worked because the ban on the Nazi party was lifted February 27th after meeting January 4th. His no public speaking ban did go on a little bit longer. It went on another two years until 1927 before that was lifted. But at the same time, he was able to sweet talk his party back into being a legitimate.
Starting point is 00:06:35 source. Well, and it kind of later in the year two and 25, MNConf hasn't even come out at this point yet either. So he's not able to, you know, it wasn't like he did it in prison, he put it out while he was in prison, so he was staying in the public eye. It hasn't even come out at this point.
Starting point is 00:06:53 And kind of the thought process, I'm wondering if when he went to essentially the head of Bavaria, what was the guy's name or what was his position? Heinrich Hild, the prime minister of Bavaria. When he went to the prime minister, I wonder if the prime minister just kind of looked and said, you know, these guys aren't as big of a problem right now, but were I not to allow him to try to pursue through legitimate means? The government's going to eat him up and spit him out.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Like he's never going to get elected because it's so extreme. But the other hand, so if I let it die out the natural way, the party's just going to disband. They're going to find out that they can't seek power this way. They know they can't seek power through the putch or anything like that. So the party's going to disband and I'm not going to have to worry about it. this. And so I do you think that was almost his because he had no other reason he could have just been like yeah, you guys are banned. So maybe he just didn't want any type of like violent reprisals and everything because he had seen that they were willing to do that before.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I mean, it's possible. It's also possible that he was just yet another person who was like, your ideas aren't the worst. That's, I know, yeah. There could have been sympathies towards that to kind of, certain ideas that they were on board with. Yeah. And so that kind of makes it tough to able to hold their feet to the fire because if you really feel sort of the same way that they do and maybe not all the crazy things that he said weren't landing like it's i don't know i don't think the one thing that i do know is hitler talking to him being like yeah i'm going to use the democratic process i bet that guy's yeah you got you go right that's the thing too is we i'm trying to think what the terminology we use but all this was was just a series of like not
Starting point is 00:08:34 checking him. Everyone was just like okay. Like no one saw it as a threat because in comparison as a whole it was a smaller movement. Even though they had at this point they felt like they were weak and they were on the way out because they didn't have their leadership. But Hitler was really running things from inside of prison as much as he could. But on the outside basically the Nazi party on the outside was being led by Ludendorf. And at this point Ludendorf and Hitler can't stand each other.
Starting point is 00:08:59 No. Well part of that I'm sure is because Ludendorf didn't get arrested and put in jail for the same shit that Hitler did. And Hitler didn't follow through on and made Ludendorf essentially. That's the whole point, too, is when the putch came out in national publications, it was like known wily as the Ludendorf putch. So like, or like as the Ludendorf Hitler push. So Hitler didn't even get top billing on his own fucking push. No.
Starting point is 00:09:21 But throughout the trial and the shit that he was saying about the putch, people were like, okay, this was definitely Hitler's deal. Like he, he, this was, he was a guy. He made it into his deal. Yeah. And then you have one of the deputies, uh, Gregor Strasser, you kind of mentioned him, basically keeping, you know, the Nazi party alive, trying to expand it as much as he could. He, there were some differences and ideals between kind of the northern faction of the Nazi party and the southern faction down in Munich where like Hitler wasn't everything is they started to kind of differ in their ideals, but were still essentially representing the Nazi party in their own way.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yeah, but Gregor, his brother Otto, Joe Scoblez that we were talking about before, they really, felt like since they were sort of doing the legwork up in the north where it was almost more important because they were growing it instead of just maintaining it and that's where berlin is isn't it so maybe they think it's more of a meaningful movement it really could have been they really butted heads on this because grigger really felt like he was kind of becoming the centerpiece and just like we talked about with hitler not wanting to link up with other factions that were other kind of extremist factions he didn't like that he didn't like somebody's challenging his power. Well, here's the thing too
Starting point is 00:10:35 is Gerbils at this point too was kind of on stressor's side and thinks it's a good idea to basically boot Hitler out thinking he's too soft and they wanted to go and remove him. Part of me thinks that like the whole thing with Goebbels is he was just sucking up to whoever was in, happened to been in
Starting point is 00:10:51 the most popular spot at that time. Fairweather fan. And he was just useful enough or had enough of a skill set and propaganda that like he was able to kind of move back and forth and there wasn't like a you know grievance against him or anything like that. Or he was just so fucking slimy that he kind of
Starting point is 00:11:07 like, was like, no, no, no, I never said that. That wasn't my idea. Deerfure or whatever that bullshit was. He was Mac playing both sides of the fence when they were trying to figure out the line of succession after Frank. And what they also did while Hitler was in is they were able to kind of make the Nazi party a little more widely appealing. I think they toned down some of the rhetoric
Starting point is 00:11:25 and everything that was more of the Hitler-centric rhetoric and were able to kind of try to bring in more people. but once Hitler came out and kind of reestablish his power base, Strasser just falls back in line. Well, for Hitler, one of these qualities that it's so tough to just give this guy credit for anything, but he was such a gifted speaker that he would, sort of like I said to you when we first started the studying, he was so much like a goddamn comedian working out material.
Starting point is 00:12:01 He would go up in front of quick. crowds and if he would get a big, loud, roaring cheer out of it, he'd be like, all right, we're going to keep that in. He would start going into something else if those cheers started trailing off or if people started to look at disinterested, be like, all right, cut that, we're not going to do that. And he was able to go into these rooms where he could ramp up the anti-Semitism. He could tone down the anti-Semitism. They did that even in the sense of like their advertising. So they were saying that when they would go around and speak to, they were the, the national socialist German workers party.
Starting point is 00:12:34 So they were supposed to be nationalists, socialists, representing the German workers. And what they would do is they would emphasize different portions of their plan or ideology. And so if they were speaking to the nationalist, when you would see signs, the N and the national would be bigger. If they were speaking to the workers, the worker part went on their advertisements and stuff would be bigger.
Starting point is 00:12:55 If it was the socialist, all that kind of shit. So they were doing like a psychological thing too. and you know this is just one of those things where he's like a master mass manipulator so he's able to essentially mold the crowd and like you were saying like his talent was in his he didn't write speeches what he would go is he would have an idea of what he was going to talk to and as soon as he caught a reaction and arise from the crowd he then focused on that he's like this is what this is the where I pull this is the thread that I pull on this crowd and then he would go work the next crowd and they wouldn't respond to that and he'd pull this other thread and they would really
Starting point is 00:13:32 respond to that so he was able to just essentially find exactly what would get him you know the biggest reaction and kind of focus on that and just the way that he was able to spin stuff to where everything was the fault of somebody else and and bring you know bring the extremist ideology into almost like common conversation it was he was blending it so much that it was like he would get you with like 80% people would be cheering and then he would pepper in like the extremist shit and then like before you even
Starting point is 00:14:07 had a chance to think about that it was more of the shit that you agreed with they would be like do you guys want more money yeah do you guys want more freedom do you guys not like the Jews do you guys not like being able to not make your house payments yeah exactly hey
Starting point is 00:14:24 you gotta give credit where credits do the man knew what he was doing And as far as that goes, the Nazi party, I think, was benefited by a lot of people within the organization. Guys like Hoffman being able to take photos. Guys like Eckhart being able to open up the door to print and being able to print a Nazi newspaper. There were just people that were in these positions that were doing all sorts of shit that were making that popular. But the main draw, the one that put asses in seats was always going to be the speaker. Well, there was like a New Year's party.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I think it was going from 24 into 25. And during it, like, he was there. And I don't know if he had too much fucking sugar wine or whatever. But he basically declared that he was going to turn Christ's words into deeds. I don't know which words he was fucking specifying. And he got like a new nickname called like the Redeemer, like within the party and everything. So like it starts to really show you that this is becoming. more less of a political move in.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And here's the other thing too. I didn't realize this. The only reason that they had to put party at the beginning is at the beginning, they had no intention of being a political party. But in order to exist as an entity like that and not like an extremist or a terrorist group, you had to pose as a political party. Yeah. So it had no political intention when it first started. And this, when he gets out of prison, is the only time that the idea of politics even comes
Starting point is 00:15:54 into being. It just so happens that this. This is already a party that they can just simply shuffle over a little bit into the political arena. Well, and this technique was used pretty effectively before this. Throwing back to the first episode when we were talking about the invention of the SA, did you catch how they registered their action group because they couldn't do it as an army? They had to be flexible. Yep.
Starting point is 00:16:22 They had to register themselves as a gymnastics club. in order to Like no one checked on that Yeah Like I don't know if you're going around in checking But you figure you should probably at one point There should be like an inspector Go find a fucking pommel horse
Starting point is 00:16:37 Do something There should be like you know A house has to be inspected They're like we're registering as a men's gymnastic team At what point just like you know Child Social Services type thing You show for a surprise visit And if you don't see these guys
Starting point is 00:16:49 Working on a set of rings Or fucking uneven bars are doing something And they're just sitting in a beer hall or something talking about how they fucking hate the Jews, maybe be like, hmm, I don't think this is a gymnastics group. Yeah, if they're outside ripping Sigs, they're probably not in doing a floor routine.
Starting point is 00:17:05 We're the storm troopers, because we just move into these gymnastics competitions like a storm. But yeah, that's that same sort of idea where they had to give themselves a label where they tried to be a movement by force. They had to be a party by Democratic standards because they had to kind of get that in their heads.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And just after that New Year's that you were talking about when he became the Redeemer, he started believing in himself so much that when he would go out and give speeches, he would give speeches as if he already was the leader of the country. He would be out there saying shit, like, yeah, you know, as the leader of this movement, or I was forechosen by the Lord for this,
Starting point is 00:17:45 like just getting really into that figurehead of what was going on, mood mentality. It was like he was trying to speak it into existence almost. Well, and when he was first, allowed to do when the ban of, you know, the gag order from public speaking was lifted, he was only able to start speaking in like one area. Yeah. I think it was just in Bavaria.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Saxony. So Saxony was the first to lift the ban for public speaking and then Bavaria after that. Oh, okay. So he could only speak in those two places. But yeah, I mean, this is where you can see how, you know, he's building his base. He's still doing all of this shit. and secret, you know, the party isn't disbanded.
Starting point is 00:18:27 The party is still essentially banned technically. And then when is the actual party band lifted? That was February 27th, right? Of 25, though. Okay. So it had been lifted for a while and they were just trying to rebuild. Gotcha. And that's because they were thinking they were going to go as a legitimate political party at that point.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Yeah. And so kind of with things against a new party trying to take power. with things going well, it was really an uphill battle before the day that Hitler just, his wet dream came true. And his wet dream, unfortunately, is the issues that millions of people had all over the world. But Black Thursday, August 24th, 1929, the stock market crash happens. The Dawes Act, the second act that I'm forgetting the name of, the company did. The Doors Act? Because you said DAWS before.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yeah, DAWS. The first one was the Dawes, right? Or was the Doors Act the first one? I think the first one, I 99% sure was the Dawes Act. But the second act that happened, both of these two things that had just completely saved their asses and brought it back, all of that money was gone. Because as soon as the stock market crash happened. There's no more aid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:46 There's no more aid to come in. So you immediately, not to mention that, we're talking 1920, what is it? 1929, world commerce and world trade was already a thing. It was happening in a much faster rate. So there was money that was tied up overseas. There were stock markets where you could trade in Berlin American stocks. It wasn't isolated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Finance was worldwide. Finance wasn't just isolated within just certain countries. It could be in some places. But when you had international trade and there was shipping and all that kind of stuff, like there was at this time, yeah, you had money tied up where the, the effects of the stock market crash in America. We only hear about what happened in America because we're here and this is where we learn about the stuff, but it had effects worldwide. I think we talked about that a couple episodes ago and I'm excited to do a Great Depression episode.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Kind of jumping back real quick before the, and I know you want to kind of group this in together too, but just to kind of paint a picture also about, you know, we don't, Hitler doesn't need any help being fucking pointed out as a psychopath, but let's go ahead and just make sure we know how much of a creep this guy is too. So during the summer of 1926, um, Um, Hitler is visiting a place in Bavaria called, um, Berchus Garden. And it's in the Oberst Salzburg. So it's essentially in the, the Bavarian Alps.
Starting point is 00:21:02 So he's 37. And while he's vacationing here, he's running a house, um, and I want to, I'm trying to remember what he calls it. It is called. The Bergdorf. Yes, Bergdorf. Yep. It's called the Bergdorf. He rents it and, um, it's in the Oberstelsberg.
Starting point is 00:21:18 He moves his sister in, uh, eventually and everything. Half sister. His half sister. and eventually, but while he's renting it, this is like his second or third summer here back in 26. He meets a girl named Mitzi, and she is 16, and he is 37, by the way. He takes a shine to this girl, and during, you know, goes around with her, goes to dinner with her while he's here and everything, but then at one point says, like, she says they were out walking and he pushed her up against a tree and kissed her passionately, and she had never wanted anybody more or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:21:53 and basically like her sister I think is a little bit older than her and is like get away from this guy like he introduces himself not even as Hitler but he uses the alias Mr. Wolf which is something that he'll use essentially not only Mr. Wolf but like he goes by the wolf that's like his thing I wonder about that what do you think that is that makes him want to be like an apex predator What do you think it is about wolf? Do you think it's just like a...
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah, it's some type of just like... You don't think there's symbolism behind it? No, no, I think there is because, you know, it's a powerful animal and everything like that. There's an alpha within a wolf pack. He's, you know, comparing other Germans to essentially a pack. You know, wolves are essentially supposed to be a strong animal. One of his bunkers, the one that he designs on the eastern front to oversee the Russian thing is called the wolf slayer. And it's fucking...
Starting point is 00:22:48 That's bonkers in itself. But, yeah, I think it's just something it's supposed to... to be powerful, somewhat frightening. But yeah, so he's fooling around on vacation with this 16-year-old. You mentioned how old he was, right? 37. Yep. So, and this is going to be a pattern.
Starting point is 00:23:04 This isn't just an isolated incident. This will be a pattern going forward for Hitler's life about, he's, it's a Wooderson thing. You know what I'd like about these German girls or whatever? I keep getting older. They stay the same age. Well, the other thing, too, is the wolf thing kind of went along with that. it's almost weird that like he was a predator in a sense because he was going after 16 and 17 year old called himself the wolf like is that a it's maybe not well thought of the way he actually thought about that um but yeah so getting back to the stock market crash again this party thrives in chaos and it needs chaos to survive and to grow yeah before we talk about that uh mincy was so enthralled by him that they ended up hooking up later and she was married yeah Um, she was trying to talk him into leaving, uh, a future woman in his life, Ava Brown that
Starting point is 00:24:01 we'll talk about at length, probably. Um, he said that he was willing to leave her. She said, she wanted marriage to Adolf. Adolf said, no, she went home and used a piece of, I think it was, um, clothesline. Tied it around a doorknob using it and tried to hang herself because she couldn't have Adolf. Luckily, she was found. She didn't die. But that was just kind of the hold that he had on these younger women somehow, that he was able to get them to just... It's fanaticism. Yeah, dude, it's something that I just don't... And it would be one thing if that was like an isolated incident. We'll talk about the other incidences. There were four more times. Yeah. Here's the thing too, crazy. I was going to wait till later to get this. So once the Nazis
Starting point is 00:24:47 actually took power, words that had negative connotations, they actually changed the German meaning of those words. So fanatic, instead of being a negative fanaticism and fanatic became something that was like the highest compliment that you could call like a Nazi. So just crazy shit like that. So we'll go back a little bit. Yeah, back to the stock market crash. So essentially it just destroys the recovering German economy. And the Nazi party just jumps at the chance to help out the lower middle classes. They go and hand out food. help out with bread lines, all this kind of stuff that are ingratiating themselves with the public is the party of the people. And in May 1928 to September 1930, they start actually putting themselves up for election in like local politics and everything.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And just massive numbers. And they're able to essentially during, it was the first time that they really entered in the elections, right? The first time they really won any sort of measurable seats was 1928 in May. They garnered 2% of the vote, and that got them, I believe it, was like 13 seats. And they were pretty stoked about that. So it looks like 12 members out of 491. And what's called the Reichstag. The Reichstag is essentially Parliament.
Starting point is 00:26:11 It's their House of Representatives. It's their Congress. And so at that point, you had like Social Democrats, which were like center left, had like a 30% vote share and that actually like increased but you have this new extremist wing that's already got 2.6%
Starting point is 00:26:28 really in one of like their first or second cracks trying to get in there. They got like 800,000 votes out of a possible 31 million votes. And one of the things too that as they're starting to go ahead and put themselves up for legitimate office is they create what's called the
Starting point is 00:26:44 Stoffen Shushthofen. The Shush. They create the SS. And the SS is created essentially as you can already kind of call the essay like a paramilitary wing. It's essentially the elite paramilitary wing that's created as like the personal body bodyguards of Hitler. And you have a guy come in to the picture that starts out just kind of as a lower tier SS officer name. And he's going to be very big within essentially the Nazi party later on called Heinrich Himmler. So much alliteration in the German namings. A lot of Heinrich. A lot of Heinrich. Hoffmann's,
Starting point is 00:27:24 Hofstanger, just all that, a lot of H's too. So at this point, too, there is a little bit of kind of like dissension. There's always seems to be a little bit of infighting within like the Nazi party and it always seems to be
Starting point is 00:27:39 you know, in this scenario it's Strasser. He kind of comes into the picture and he's kind of budding heads with Hitler a little bit and Well, this is, I think, that north-south divide again. Yeah, exactly. Rearing its ugly head. They have ideas about how they should go about things and maybe differences in ideology.
Starting point is 00:27:57 So they're each trying to push those as the dominant platform for the Nazi party. And so Hitler ends up meeting with Strasser at some point. They come to do an agreement. And then after that, I think Strasser ends up getting in a car accident or something. And so he's kind of out of commission for six months. And that's when I think Hitler just kind of comes in and shores up his power base and reestablishes himself. finally being out of like jail and everything like that as the the true dictator to the fear of the Nazi party. Yeah. And all, I mean, all that work that they were doing on middle class families is breadlines and everything else that you were talking about.
Starting point is 00:28:33 It paid such big dividends because you go from May 28th getting, or May in 1928 getting 2.6% of the vote. September 1930 gets 18.3% of the vote. They jumped all the way up to a 107 seats in the Reichstag. They had become basically the second largest party in parliament as far as like a sole party. Because a lot of the ways that these parties
Starting point is 00:29:01 would work to reach the 50% threshold as they would have to create coalitions with other groups that are close. Across the aisle, except instead of an aisle, you had essentially like an octagon. It divided up and you had different aisles and different factions and everything. So what really
Starting point is 00:29:17 led to that increase of them being able to jump up like that. So like you said, you had them helping out with their recovery. It was like a perception of helping out. They really didn't have any power, but they were making these promises. And they were always like vague promises and everything like that, but they just sounded good. It was lip service. It was shit like Hitler would go out and he'd be like, we're going to fix the trade unions. He doesn't say how he's going to fix him. He doesn't say who's going to benefit. He just puts certain subjects into certain things and says that they're going to do anything. He promises everything with promising nothing at the same time. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:49 You have German unemployment at this point that's up to like 40%. During like 29 to 32, the industrial production falls by 50% in Germany. So they're just getting hammered. They're losing money, jobs, all that kind of stuff. He tones down the anti-Semitism to kind of appear more professional and conservative. Straser eventually is brought back into the party. And between like 29 and 32, the party members of this are, about it, 130,000 plus.
Starting point is 00:30:18 And that's just, that's just members. That's not people that, like, if you're really thinking about it, when you hear that, they're like, well, that's still only 130,000. How are they getting so many votes? Those are just people that are willing to actually put pen to paper to become members of this party. To register, yeah. To register. And that are
Starting point is 00:30:33 accepted, because at this point, too, there's qualifications to get into this party. You have to meet certain physical requirements. You have to meet a certain lineage type requirement. They're just not accepting anybody. They want a certain type of person. White guy. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:47 And then you have people that are kind of maybe on the fence, like, hey, all vote for those guys, but I'm not going to be like a card carrying party member. So that's where they're able to kind of build up more of a following as well. This, they create like a youth outreach program, which is going to be called the Hitler Youth. Yeah. They establish a base in Munich called the Brownhouse or Brownhaus, the Braunhaus. And this basically serves as essentially, you know, Hitler's office. and kind of where they're making all their plans from. They do this in Munich because they're still not,
Starting point is 00:31:20 you know, they're still building their power base. They're still in a more nationalist-centric place and not really ready to move to Berlin where their power base is going to be a little bit weakened. Weird thing that I found, speaking of the Brown House, did you know that the only property that Hitler ever actually owned was the house in the Berkhoff? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Everything else was just rented. You would think that somebody that was... Or owned by the Nazi party. Yeah. But like not... Yeah, his only residence was the Berghoff. You're the leader of Germany. You're the leader of the Nazi party,
Starting point is 00:31:51 and you only have one piece of land. He never needed to own, like, the royal, I don't even what they call it, the chancellery. Yeah, I mean, I guess if you own the entire country, you just kind of own everything. Yeah, you're not concerned with what you're the fucking ownership and the mortgage papers, fuck I could say. I just thought that it was odd,
Starting point is 00:32:07 that that was like the one thing that he had to his name. While he's set up shack at the Brownhouse, this is when he starts making everybody refer to him as the furor. And they would all greet people in the... This is where we get Heil Hitler from. It became essentially just like a greeting. What essentially starts out is something that they say as like a pledge of allegiance to each other will eventually become almost like a litmus test for your loyalty.
Starting point is 00:32:34 So like when the Gestapo and the SS are kind of running security all over Germany, if someone says, Heil Hitler and you don't hear that response back from somebody, your eyes are immediately on you for treason or dissension. So it almost becomes like a fucking test. They said the other test of your Nazidum was the salute that you would do or you'd pull your hand to your chest and fire it out like you're half confident and a question you're about to answer. When I was, okay, so I get that it's the, whenever anyone like,
Starting point is 00:33:06 it's the arm at like 45 degrees pointed out in front of you, but all of the videos, it's the laziest fucking videos have it up. It looks like he's just holding his hand up, like, doing the prom wave, except holding it straight, or it's, like, tilted back. And there's not, like, he wouldn't even do it. He was so physically awkward that he couldn't even figure out how to get it done right. Like, the, you know, it's supposed to be the intention of pointing the arm out and being like, Heil Hitler and all that kind of shit. But at the same time, like, his, if it had to have a voice to be like, hey, Hitler. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Like that was very soft. Yeah, that's what he was a limp-risted man. He probably fucking had to do it so much. He's just like, I can only do this now. The fucking rotator cuff is destroyed. This is where we get the real dictator shit, because much like Kim Jong-un shoots 18 holes in one when he plays
Starting point is 00:33:49 18 holes. Hitler was supposed to be the most ardent Nazi because he could do the salute for longer than anybody else. Like seven hours. Yeah. It was a very long period of time. And that was how you were supposed to show your devotion to the party. What happened? They were in the fucking
Starting point is 00:34:05 Brownhouse and they came and everyone was chatting. They were like, they're like, Adolf's gone. He's on six and a half hours. I don't know how much longer he can stand. He's just sweating with a water bottle, just trying to salute away. But like, in his personal life, apparently he was extremely unprofessional. He was late
Starting point is 00:34:21 for everything. He slept in, like, way in. He wasn't like... He was Maryland Monroe. He wasn't concerned about, like, he was concerned about as a parent and everything like that. But, like, socially, just not like a professional person or anything. You heard about the
Starting point is 00:34:37 potential meeting between him and Churchill at dinner? Yeah, and he like kept him, like he slept through it or like fucking the guy had to go wake him up and then he wasn't even dressed. Yeah, he didn't have his hair done. He looked all fat. He didn't even go, right? Yeah, he didn't even go. It was the one time that he had a chance to meet Churchill before the rubber hit the road and he showed him up. Just a real dickhead. At the same time, there was this guy. He was a German like law student or lawyer. He named was Horst Vessel. And there was a situation where he was living in. somewhere in Germany.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I don't know if it was Munich or not, but his landlady, apparently he'd been laid on some payments, and his landlady had hired these basically communist enforcers to try to, like, scare him out or force him out. And one thing led to another during this altercation, and he shot by these communists.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And he's not killed right away, but he's mortally wounded. In the time it takes for him to actually die in the hospital, Gerbils actually fucking seize this and develops essentially a story around this that this is the pride of the German future, that this is a prime example of like, of youth taken too soon by the communist,
Starting point is 00:35:52 and basically takes like an old German like him or like folk song and designs this song to that beat about like horse vessel and like the youth of Germany and all this. And it's called like the Raise the Flag Song and basically comes like becomes like the fucking anthem. Yeah. for the fucking Nazi party.
Starting point is 00:36:11 You also, like you're saying, you get the Nazi salute that's invented. There's fucking, like, at this point, too, during this three years, there's like 6,000 Nazi meetings throughout the fucking country. He's making his way in. And really, I think,
Starting point is 00:36:29 do you have anything else before the presidency? Yeah, so... Okay. I was mentioned it before, but at this point, they really start to push this. Now that, like, there's an economic collapse again
Starting point is 00:36:41 because it recovered before due to the Dawes Act and everything like that they really lean into essentially now that see we've told you there might have been a little recovery but this current regime the way things are going right now it's not going to change we can't make small changes and it changes and expect anything to work out we need large extreme changes and he keeps pushing this
Starting point is 00:37:02 another huge thing to help them the fucking Kaiser you still have Kaiser Wilhelm who's no longer in power of course because they lost World War I. He's like outside the country too. Yeah, he's in exile somewhere. But someplace that's accessible. Yeah. What ends up happening is Kaiser Wilhelm's son pledges his allegiance to the Nazi party.
Starting point is 00:37:19 So now you have these people that we're still wanting the monarchy to be reestablished and everything that's like, oh shit. Like his son is now like putting in his like throwing in his law with the Nazis. It leads just that name recognition. Like we have Wilhelm, you know, the Kaiser's son with us and everything. That all contributes essentially. to them, like you were saying, September 14, 1930. 6.4 million votes, 18% of the total, 107 seats. The second biggest party now in the Reichstag.
Starting point is 00:37:53 It's a rise that's really kind of tough to understand, but the amount of work that they were putting into it, and like you said earlier, being on the cutting edge of all of the different forms of media that you can get out to people, you see why that's such a big driver today, because even back then, when your newest form of media might have been TV to be able to get that shit rolling,
Starting point is 00:38:15 to be able to go out there to do basically like countrywide tours delivering these speeches every single day, day in and day out. It yielded from 2.6% of the vote to 18.3 just doing that work. In the course of like three years. Yeah, it's just absolutely incredible.
Starting point is 00:38:34 The first date that the new Reichstag went into session or whatever they call it, the fucking essay went out and went on like a like damaging like jewish shops and all stuff they were disguised but like that was their fucking celebration for like the entry into like the riteshag they were also told that they weren't allowed to wear their nazi dress into the ryshtag to do the votes or to do anything like that and of course all of them showed up in their nazi uniforms and i believe they did start out during roll call instead of just saying They would say here and then.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Hile. Yeah, Hile. And they were told, you know, to tone it down to the point where they could be contributing members, because what they were basically trying to do, the Reichstag kind of operated kind of like Congress, but in different ways. You had people that could be assigned to like governorships from the Reichstag. You had a position that was like the Speaker of the House, the President of the Reichstag. So you had political appointments that could be made.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And so in order for them not to just be these token members of the Reichstag with only these like smaller powers, they were basically trying to also get into these positions of governorship to make themselves be candidates for it. So at this point, the SA membership is up to a fucking million. That's in the SA membership. There's only 100,000 Germans in the army. So at this point, just this like personal militia, this paramilitary group outnumbers the military 10 to 1. Not to mention the actual military
Starting point is 00:40:09 doesn't have any sort of supremacy in the air or in the waters or anything like that. You don't have that either but that's the whole point. Yeah, it's just ground to ground.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Like you can't have a plane drop a bomb on a bunch of S.A. guys because you don't have planes and you don't have bombs. So our good buddy Rom apparently he had fled the country and was over in South America helping train like military troops
Starting point is 00:40:30 and stuff like that. They end up bringing him back in. He and crazily enough, ROM is not only gay, but he's openly gay. And this seems to just fly in the face of essentially everything that the Nazi party
Starting point is 00:40:44 seems to stand for. It's one of those 24 tenants or whatever you were talking about that the party was set on. So he ends up coming back in to kind of help oversee the essay and everything. And I think Gerbils has Himmler start to build like a dossier on Rom for
Starting point is 00:41:00 like blackmail and basically I think he, I'm pretty sure this is something and he probably always did, was Goebbels was just trying to get dirt on everybody to be able to turn Hitler or be able to sell out and he wanted at a given time. Well, and I think Himmler didn't like Rom because it was almost like he was... The SA was like the SS's little brother.
Starting point is 00:41:20 So Himmler probably wasn't a big fan of the leader of the essay. The guy that he gets to kind of like start spying and build the dossier on ROM is a guy named Reinhardt Hydric. And this dude is going to be a major player coming when we actually do more of like the Holocaust. cost episode and everything like that. He ends up being like one of the chief architects of the final solution. So these guys are in it early on.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah. And that's the other thing I always kind of wondered. Like when you're looking at, you know, just about the World War II aspect once the war started, you have all these people in positions of power. And you're like, how did he like find these people that were so like, so fucking disgustingly like, minded like him? He had known them. They were there from like the get-go or they came in at different times and they were there
Starting point is 00:42:04 from like the building of it. Yeah, and they all had dirt on their hands by the time they were in these major positions of power during World War II. Well, and at, you know, sometime during this after he's kind of, you know, they get some people in a party, he ends up what we kind of referred to either as he's bought the Berghoff. He ends up buying it, moving his sister in and, or his half sister, and she has. Angela. Huh? Angela. Angela.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Well, she has a daughter. and her name is, is it Gilly? Gilly Robble. Gilly Robble. And she is 20 years old. And she just loves hanging out with Uncle Adolf. I thought the first time they had met she was 16. The first time they had met.
Starting point is 00:42:50 She was 16. But when they actually move in and everything, she's 20. Oh, okay. That's it. I don't know what this information. Who knows if this information is coming from? Not that information. Just like the fact that he,
Starting point is 00:43:04 He had seen her. He'd kind of laid eyes on her and played that long game between 16 to 20 or it's like, I need to get this chick in my house. A, because I've taken a liking to her. But B, because I've taken a liking to her and she is my niece, I have to try to keep this under wraps. Even he was smart enough to realize that him fucking a family member was probably going to look bad. Yeah. And so, I mean, they do a lot of stuff together.
Starting point is 00:43:30 They're never seen having a romantic relationship, but they hang out enough to. together with a fucking, we'll just say between 16 and 20 year old girl and a guy who's in his 40s, probably at this point. Yeah. And yeah, it doesn't fucking, here's the thing that makes me suspect that it's not just a normal uncle-niece relationship is around the time, you know, after the election, everything like that, while they're still building up their power base, they got some seats, 107 seats. He meets through Heinrich Hoffman, his photographer.
Starting point is 00:43:58 He goes down to visit her or him at his shop or whatever it is, and he sees a young, woman, Miss Ava Brown. He catches her stems in her ass first. She's getting up on a ladder, putting some stuff away, and he's like, oh, this is Mr. Wolf. What is that? Yeah, exactly. And he's like, oh, dear,
Starting point is 00:44:16 that's our good little fra line. You know, Ava, have you met, you know, Mr. Wolf? And they do a fucking introduction. Well, he starts hanging out with Ava, and apparently, because the relationship is so normal between Gellie and Adolf, Gellie turns around and fucking kills herself with Adolf's pistol, when she's 23 years.
Starting point is 00:44:34 old. So. I think that's pretty telling of what the fucking relationship entailed. Yeah. Adolf, well, this is where things get kind of really pear-shaped is Adolf is off doing his thing. He's off doing his speaking tour. He's out there talking to the people.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Gellie in his home was going through his stuff and found a note in one of his jacket pockets. There was a note asking Ava to go to the theater with him. And she was so distraught over it. that she tore through his things and found his pistol. Mr. Hoffman, would you pass the note to run this Brun? Yeah. To see if she would go out on the date.
Starting point is 00:45:12 And that's part of that social awkwardness, I think. Like, why would you be writing a 16-year-old girl a note? Dude, just ask her, you're old enough. It's cool. Oh, yeah, Ava is like 16 at this point. Yeah, she's 16 or 17. I feel like we've said 16 a lot for old girls that I can't remember if we described. Just assume that if we're talking about a young girl, she's like around the age of 16.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Yep. If not 16, exactly. So, yeah, she steals his pistol, runs into a room, jams the, door shut, the help in the house is knocking on the door like, hey, hey, what are you doing? What do you got going on? Apparently, they never hear a gunshot. Yeah, they hear like something drop and it sounds like a book hits the ground or some shit. And then next day they show up. She still hasn't left the room. They forced their way in with, not with the police or anybody logically that you would think, but I think it was like Himmler
Starting point is 00:45:55 or somebody who was actually over there too that forces their way in. She had shot herself in the chest. There's debate. There was some fingers pointed that it could have been. been Hitler that did it. There was some fingers pointed that it could have been somebody in the SS that did it just to try to to pull the... Yeah. Try to tie it up like you say and kind of clear the way for Ava, probably
Starting point is 00:46:16 because Ava would be somebody that was more digestible than his niece to the public. But yeah, we have an attempt for Mitzie to kill herself and now we have one under the belt just because they were so infatuated with this man, her uncle.
Starting point is 00:46:32 it's just absolutely incredible to me that he had that kind of a draw and that he was that much a weirdo also something that we forgot to mention from Lansberg Prison was he this was only found I don't know how it wasn't mentioned
Starting point is 00:46:51 and maybe it wasn't because they didn't do the physical like they didn't release the physicals for the army but when they were going through Lansberg and he was getting his physical to go into prison they found out that he had an descended testicle. One testicle confirmed. Yep. So officially confirmed. He had both of them. I'm just going to throw this out from last episode. A lot of people in the world with undescended testicles. No one else has done this.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Yep. Yeah. Still still for that same pattern. I don't want anybody listening who may have an undescended testicle to really feel like this is a shot at you. This isn't your spokesman. We know that this isn't the, not the same guy. For people with your condition. I will say, though, anybody that does bravo to you, because he, I don't think took it very well. He would like refuse to be seen in public, not dressed to the nines. Like the most that anybody said they ever saw was his knees because of his fucking leader hosen. Did you see the fucking picture?
Starting point is 00:47:46 It was like someone trying to look tough. So you have it from like, you know, Hitler from the waist up. And he's got his brown shirt or it might have been a black one tucked in. He's got the fucking leather strap across his chest. He's trying to armband on. And then it like pans out. and he's fucking wearing Leaderhosen, the shirts, the shorts that go down, like the brown ones,
Starting point is 00:48:06 they go down above his knees. Then you just see his kneecaps and then the fucking, like, tall white socks. I'm just like, that's the most unthreatening fucking uniform like I've ever seen in my life. It looked like a fucking Halloween person trying to fucking hit. Yes, it was fucking ridiculous. Yeah, the one nutted man that may have not had enough self-confidence, that could have been a driver of the fact that he had one testicle.
Starting point is 00:48:28 He was definitely the kid that did P.E. and then just didn't shower after class. Like, just a very weird dude when it came to that. Maybe it's because he only had one nut. So something that might not be common knowledge. So there's a couple different chants. There's the greeting, the Heil Hitler, the sign-off. And then there's the Zieg Heil.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And Zieg Heil, do you know where that came from? This is your put-shey guy. Because you went to Harvard, the chant is Harvard. Oh, that's right. So he used that Zieg Heil And was fucking And used the Harvard chant
Starting point is 00:49:08 To fucking come up with that So fucking sorry Harvard That's an L Harvard Sorry you don't take many of them But that's definitely an L We get some other Just weirdly shocking things
Starting point is 00:49:20 That I don't know Why they're not more common knowledge Because there's a lot of companies That have ties back to this But you get Hugo Boss Designs the Nazi SS uniforms, the fucking jackboots, the black, the skull, the deathhead emblem and all that kind of stuff, the fucking SS logo. You get fucking Hugo Boss is who fucking designs these.
Starting point is 00:49:45 I used to wear fucking Hugo Boss flown a long time ago, and now I'm having weird conflicting feelings about that shit. And he's still designing, like, I'm trying to remember the last time, you know, where like people are going to an award show or like Oscars. Like, who are you wearing? I'm trying to remember in my head if I've ever heard any of these motherfuckers saying I'm wearing Hugo boss because I know it's happened. Well, and you have to think, too, when the Olympics roll around and we have like polo that does ours, you think anybody in Germany's ever like Hugo boss? And they're like, what the fuck did you just say?
Starting point is 00:50:14 No, no, Hugo. It's still in national. Yeah, it's still international. It's the thing. And part of that that you're talking about, the reason that Hugo designed those uniforms that he did specifically for Hitler was for some reason he felt that the chancellery was, you just a little bit too far outside of his realm. But the presidency wasn't.
Starting point is 00:50:36 And the presidency at the time was held by, I think, as there was Paul von Hindenberg. Is that right? Yeah, so, oh, Carl. Carl. Carl, Van Hindenberg. Of course, Carl, the K. Yep, he had been elected in February of 1925.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Thank you for making me go back to that because I forgot. So, yeah, so the guy that's been elected as the president of the Weimar Republic is Carl von Hindenberg. And von Hindenberg. is, I would say he's a lax guy. He doesn't really seem like a, he's an older gentleman. 1932 sees him come up for the president.
Starting point is 00:51:11 I assume the Hindenburg is named after Carl von Hindenberg. That was going to be my question to you. Yeah, we'll just go with you. It's too close. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, the man had a blimp named after him that exploded.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Not the intention. I don't think. What's going to happen here? But his number comes up for, re, I don't know. They seem to have a lot of elections. There's certain things that cause elections, then they have ones that are scheduled. It's very weird.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Yeah, so what happens is there is an article written in the Weimar Republic's Constitution, and we'll talk about it a little later. I want to say it's Article 48, but I'm not 100% sure. When Article 48 is invoked, it actually takes the power away from the parliament and gives sole power in emergency situations to the president. Chancellor. The chancellor. Yes, thank you.
Starting point is 00:52:03 The structure real quick. You have a president. Yep. You have a chancellor. Yep. You then have the people in the Reichstadt and you have different positions within that. The chancellor is usually chosen by the party in power in majority of the Reichstag. But the president has the authority to remove the chancellor at any time.
Starting point is 00:52:20 So the chancellor is still behoven to the president, but the chancellor is in charge of the Reichstag. And the running of the day to day and everything like that. Yeah. It's almost a situation where the president is the highest rank, but it's almost like the chancellor is the stronger of the two. Yes, it's like the president is only job is to watch the chancellor. And the chancellor is supposed to do everything else. So it's like it's in an observatory position with the power to remove that person.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Yeah, and it just becomes a situation where whenever that happens, in order to come back into session, they have to have just basically because, him stripping the power away from the parliament basically calls their jobs into question where when they go back into parliamentary sessions they have to have elections for basically
Starting point is 00:53:11 like the people saying we want these people in power in the new legislative session. So it's like our elections but they can be spurred any time as this article goes along. Gotcha. Okay. So that's why they're having, that's why we have elections that are happening like every year, every two years.
Starting point is 00:53:27 The presidency is I believe it's six years, maybe seven years. And the chancellor is in an appointed position. So it can change literally at any time. Or it can go on forever, which it ends up happening. But Von Hindenberg is coming up in 1932 on his next election. And they said that at the fulfillment of his, if he wins again, his fulfillment date, he'll be 92 years old. So he is older than dirt.
Starting point is 00:53:53 He's seen all this shit. Yeah. Like, so what's 92 like in 1930? It can be good. Or 1932. Like the fact that you made it to 92, you got to be just like ravaged as fuck. Yeah, dude, you got to be really, really tired.
Starting point is 00:54:12 So Hitler, for some reason, has never really thought about this presidency thing. Von Hindenberg is on the right. He is... So the reason that Hitler also can't go for the chancellor position at this point is because they are the second biggest party. You have to be able to qualify for it.
Starting point is 00:54:29 I think you have to be part of the largest party. You have to be eligible. To be eligible to run for the chancellor or to be elected to the chancellor or picked or whatever. Yeah. So he gets this idea, hey, maybe I go president first, then I can maybe work my way into that chancellorship. One big thing stands in his way, though. You have to be a citizen of the country that you're running for president in, and he is not a German citizen. He shouldn't even be the leader of the political party at this point because he's not a citizen.
Starting point is 00:54:58 and it's a German political party. And at this point, he renounced his Austrian citizenship in 1925. So he's been without citizenship for seven years. In order to tie up that loose in, February 25th, 1932, Hitler's appointed as the administrator of the state's delegation to the Reichstad in Berlin. Excuse me. So the little section that he was appointed to since he became a member of that area, he was given citizenship. in that area so then he could take this position. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:32 So that's how he gets his German citizenship. They're just opening doors and finding excuses to let him do this shit. And I know that it's like he has the single party, the Nazi party doesn't have. They're the second largest. There's other nationalist parties. They may be smaller. Like when they first started down, they only had like, what, 12 seats? You have these other smaller nationalist parties that can be in there as well.
Starting point is 00:55:52 And just for the strength in numbers, if they need to get something done and it matches 50% of what the other nationalist party wants, they're going to try to get that push through. So they'll team up and, like you said, make coalitions to create larger the majority parties. Well, being such a big party at this point, too,
Starting point is 00:56:08 Hitler is okay with working with other coalitions, really, because, or with other places to make coalitions with other radical groups. Until he can gain, because he can't gain that power himself. So he's taking what he can get.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Well, and he knows that there's nobody in those smaller parties that's going to be able to challenge him at all. Yes. He's still King Dick. He's king of the mountain. in the second largest party. So yeah, he decides to run for presidency or run for the presidency.
Starting point is 00:56:36 And it's very sort of odd some of the things just with what they call themselves the people's national. National socialist German Workers Party. Yeah, you would think something called the Workers Party, you would be really focused on workers' rights. He goes and meets with these German industrialists about a few other things not really pertaining to the presidency. And towards the end of the meeting, as he's talking with them, he just kind of throws it out there. He's like, so if I were to run for president, would I have your support? And they're like, uh, we like von Hindenberg. You and von Hindenberger technically from the same side of the aisle.
Starting point is 00:57:13 You're just a little bit more extreme than he is. We got some good shit going with him. I think we would probably be. It doesn't benefit enough, us enough. It's not like he's from the opposing party to where they're fighting against his policies. They're like, he's already doing a lot for us. We're used to this. It's a known quantity.
Starting point is 00:57:28 and frankly you're probably still a little bit crazy for us. But you have companies that are like fucking Bosch. Deutsche Bank. Deutsche Bank. Siemens. The most thing I know them for is they're on the front of some soccer jersey. Isn't it spelled S-I-E-M-E-N? Maybe that's it.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Yeah. I didn't want to go S-E-M-E-N on the board. I see where you were trying to avoid that. I took a different stroke at it. but these people of all these major industries, these companies that are still around today, he goes, well, what if we were able to maybe work on the trade laws or maybe just go ahead and abolish the,
Starting point is 00:58:08 not the trade laws, the employees. Unions. Yeah, employee unions. Trade unions. And everyone's like, oh, shit, if you destroy the trade unions, then we can start giving people a shitload less money and nothing's going to go wrong. It's all of our benefit.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Yeah. So he gets these major industrial corporations to sign on to the on the quiet. Yeah, well, yeah. But they're, they're going to start giving them money.
Starting point is 00:58:32 He's going to have that political power on them. These companies that are still around today, I can't, we cannot stress enough how many companies were involved with Hitler
Starting point is 00:58:41 that just, it gets swept under the rug. But along with that, all the shit that you were talking about, all the mass marketing campaigns, everything that's going on, the shit that they're pulling off on this whole entire,
Starting point is 00:58:55 just whirlwind tour of a campaign. Oh, Hitler had met von Hindenberg at another time and they were kind of having a meeting about maybe Hitler's political aspirations and von Hindenberg just
Starting point is 00:59:10 completely shut him down and that was when he called him the corporal. He also told him to his face that the highest achieving rank that he would ever achieve in the, or the highest rank that he would ever achieve in the government would be the leader of the post office. Oh, that's right. Postmaster General or something shit like, yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Like the biggest slap in the face ever. So this gives Hitler an act to grind. It was a personal vend that at that way. A lot of the things that they were doing on the streets, they would actually record albums of Hitler's speeches. They would hand them out to people for free. And then back in the day, you've heard of the baseball cards, the T206s, the ones that they used to put in tobacco.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Yes. In order to give it structure. But they were like collectible playing cards. To get kids to actually, too. Well, yeah, maybe that. Yeah. Maybe just like another hobby. Yeah, gives the packets rigid.
Starting point is 01:00:02 It couldn't just be a fucking piece of cardboard back there. They didn't bubble gun, too. Okay, okay. But they would basically have like Nazi trading cards. And on these albums that they were giving out for free to the people, it would be these boards where you could actually slide these... Roaches that women could wear. It was like, it was merch. It was fucking Nazi merch.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Just crazy ways for them to be able to market. Things that people weren't doing at this point. That's why it was like so weirdly effective. it was just like this weird, they turned it in like to mass marketing. The other thing that he did beyond just that mass marketing was his speeches started to get more grand. He was able to wherever he would be going to, he would talk to local military base or whoever they had to bring in the military spotlights to surround the campaign area that he was going to be doing his speech in. Loud speakers always had like amplification loudspeakers. He wanted to be heard and he wanted to be heard, you know, memorably.
Starting point is 01:00:53 He had lighting controls like at the podium where he was. so he could dim lights to emphasize dramatic times during his speeches or raise the lights, that kind of shit. It was like, it was pageantry is what it is. He was like, it was almost, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:01:08 it was meant to like evoke like emotions and you're not like the information. It was almost supposed to make you feel a certain way more than like it was supposed to tell you something. It was, they were fucking rock concerts. Yeah. He was a rock star when he was out there. You can go listen to a band. And no one had ever really,
Starting point is 01:01:24 I don't think anyone had ever really seen all of. this kind of come together. No, and not in such an arena like politics. I'm not saying this to praise of what I'm saying is that like it's just, I don't know, it's that perfect, I think I was telling you about it. It's like that diagram where the two circles and it's like absolute psychopath, like, a perfect talent and like finding those two things and it's like. The center of the van diagram.
Starting point is 01:01:47 It is he found, he found himself where his greatest skill was the one that he used the most. Like it's, I don't know how, it's like someone that was supposed to be, like, how they say like Eddie Van Halen was born or like Jimmy Hendricks with it. They put it and they just knew what to do with it. It's like that kind of just specific genius. But being so evil at the same time that it's literally an evil genius. He was, yeah, he was a showman. The man knew exactly what he wanted to do and he was able to do it. And to just acknowledge that that's pretty impressive. It's tough to do with such an evil person. but he really was gifted. He had the ability to evoke emotions inside of people by using these lights, by using the color change. Not gifted enough because he ends up losing, what, like $18 million to $11 million? Yeah, but at the same time, for him to jump in to the race so late. I understand that.
Starting point is 01:02:44 To garner 37% of the vote, and he actually pushes Von Hindenberg to a runoff because of the situation where... I don't know how. Like, they didn't really explain it. didn't see an explanation because an 11 million or 11 to 18, especially when it's not a, that's not the difference. That's the totals. That seems like a big enough one to be like, I think we can call this. Well, that was the final vote. But the runoff is automatically triggered if you don't get over 50% of the vote. So since he didn't get 50 and Von Hindenberg didn't get 50, probably because Hitler tore a lot of votes from Hindenberg, they had to go to a final runoff.
Starting point is 01:03:22 So him and Hindenberg were other people running. I got you. Yeah. Him and Hindenberg were the only. two that were involved in the final one. They got the two highest percentage of votes. Okay. So that was what happened. In between that first vote and the second vote, we have a story hit the tabloids of Mr. Rom
Starting point is 01:03:38 making homosexuality very rampant throughout the essay like we talked about earlier. And Hitler comes up with what I can only say would probably be the most ass-backwards, brilliant way to fight this. He claimed that, Rom was so manly and so much of a man that his homosexuality was actually showing the strength of his masculinity.
Starting point is 01:04:04 So he was just trying in a roundabout way to say this dude is so manly that he doesn't even like women. He has to fuck other dudes to be fulfilled. Like that is the most word salad crazy thing to actually say. To actually come out and say that. Yeah. Knowing what all of your fucking rhetoric and like your fucking book is said and everything like that, to come out and just think that like
Starting point is 01:04:27 no one's gonna look at me like he says this but now he's saying this other thing yeah do we call into question but it was never like called into question like oh I guess he's just wrong on this but everything else it never called into like maybe his judgment's a little skewed yeah it wasn't like okay so he said being gay is bad but being super gay is extra good
Starting point is 01:04:45 it's like you get past the wrong back to another right you break the threshold yeah it's a horseshoe theory so Hindenbergins of winning the runoff and at this time as well the chancellor is this guy named Bruning. So Chancellor Bruning is at this point they've kind of
Starting point is 01:05:02 allowed the SS and the essay to exist and the reason they've been doing that is it all boils down to the Geneva or not the Geneva Convention, the fucking Treaty of Versailles. They haven't been happy like German leadership has not been happy that they can only have 100,000 soldiers. So
Starting point is 01:05:18 what they're looking at, they think of the SS and the essay, they're basically like these can be useful to us. as almost like a standing military in case anything happened. They never expect them to be essentially turned against. They're only thinking of it from an aspect of we can use this in case we're attacked or we need to attack someone else. It allows them like a loophole for like having a built-up military.
Starting point is 01:05:40 The other thing that would scare you is the fact that the guy who's basically in charge of the essay and the SS just came in second in the presidential votes and really wanted to be president. So Chancellor Bruny ends up banning the SS and the essay. So this guy at least sees some of the writing. It was like, maybe we're not, we're in a powder cake of a situation. Yeah. And this guy has a lot of power both politically and now like technically militarily. So Bruning actually gets fired because of this.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Because it basically, they realized that like we need the SS and we need to have this like standing force. Yeah, they have to. Well, it was Bruning kind of. his pushback on it, I think, is what was the nail in the coffin for him. Because there were the other guys, and we'll talk about him here in a second, that kind of had Hitler's back as far as that was. And they sort of wanted him in a chancellery advisory role because it was another situation where they felt like he was somebody
Starting point is 01:06:43 that they could use to get what they wanted. Exactly. They still thought that he was useful. He still thought that they still somehow thought that he was going to be under the her control. he had never been under their control and he just kept getting stronger. They were just like, well, at some point he can't pause it. Like his ideas are too extreme. He'll never get the full majority.
Starting point is 01:07:00 This is the max they're going to get. Something also happens that makes them kind of believe that. But at this point, right before we take a bathroom break, Bruning is out, the guy that's against the SS and the SA. New guy comes in named Van Pappen. First thing he does, he lifts that band. So SS and essay are right back in, and we'll be right back as well. Oh, my God, Adam.
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Starting point is 01:07:58 Van Pappen, Franz von Pappen is in. So we got another new vote here. So... New chancellor, new vote. Yep. New chancellor, new vote. So there's a new vote, and apparently everyone gets voted. Like, it's not just for certain positions.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Like, everyone just gets voted again. So basically what ends up happening during this one is now the Nazis become the biggest party in the Reichstag. And because they are now the biggest party in the Reichstag. party in the Reichstag, guess who's eligible to run for Chancellor? 1933 elections, March 6th. Put himself up for Chancellor. You can't run for it. It has to be chosen.
Starting point is 01:08:32 So he is eligible to be chosen as Chancellor. They yielded 43% of the vote, and they used a coalition with somebody called the DNVP to take that 50% majority. So that automatically makes the H-Man up for chancellery. and Van Pappen was actually pretty down with taking over and overthrowing the Weimar Republic
Starting point is 01:08:58 so he him and another guy um sorry that was probably bad into the mic um Kurt Von Schlecker yeah Kurt Von Schlecker both go to
Starting point is 01:09:12 Von Hindenberg and they're like hey I know that you want to make me Chancellor as Van Pepin we kind of like this Hitler guy though He's like Hitler's a loose cannon I'm not gonna put the guy that just ran For the presidency up there
Starting point is 01:09:27 That's not gonna happen Van Pappen you're my guy He's like I'm not gonna take the guy that was Bad back to me and that I beat Now I have to be responsible for the job that he does And if I put him in that position And he turns out to be shit Then it looks bad on me
Starting point is 01:09:42 And he's already a loose cannon We already know that he's a little bit kooky He was the guy that tried to get here by force before Now he's trying to get here Are we not forgetting, like, literally what he went to prison for? And here's the crazy thing, too, is like, this is all still happening despite the fact that he went to prison for fucking treason. It didn't somehow disqualify him for holding any type of office like this. Like, he tried to violently overthrow the government.
Starting point is 01:10:09 And just because now he's doing it in what they considered their legitimate way, he's able to go ahead and do it. it's such a weird weird thought that this could just continue to happen well and the thing too is you got to think that like because the Nazi party has this many positions the party is growing you now have people that are in positions of like power like in police
Starting point is 01:10:31 and military and things like that that are members of the Nazi party that were already there and then other members joining those places to go ahead and also infiltrate and have positions of power there so they're really it's not just like oh we've taken the right shag it's literally them spreading their fucking like tentacles out into fucking everything else. So they end up offering Hitler the vice chancellor position.
Starting point is 01:10:55 That was a big mistake. And he's like, nope, I'm not doing that shit. I'm not playing second fiddle. That's not going to work for me. So during this time as well, because they become the largest party, Guring becomes the head of the right stag, which is basically like the speaker of the house. When previously, after he got shot during the push, he fucking. fled, he ended up going
Starting point is 01:11:17 and turning himself in at some point. Then he went to a mental institution for morphine addiction and shit. So he's been in a fucking psych ward. And now he's the goddamn speaker of the fucking house. Like, what the fuck is going on here? What a glow up. That's incredible to go from there to there.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Like, and so you get him in this position as well. And using what was it? Oh, sorry. there was a situation where some communists that there was a communist party also in the right stag there's representation for the communists and they actually because they kind of i think saw van
Starting point is 01:11:56 pappen and like hitler like him and kind of support not supported you know he put him up for the chancellor but he wanted him to be chancellor they actually did like a vote of no confidence in pappin and so he's like this is perfect like they're they're going to get rid of you know the chancellor there's going to be another old opening we get Hiller in here. So basically because he's the speaker of the house, he's the one that has to call for the vote. Goring does. So Van Pappen actually goes to von Hinden. It has to get it fucked up. A thing signed that says like I can't get voted out or has to have like a decree signed. It was to take over the emergency powers away from the Reichstag like he had done or like that's right. So he literally comes back with this signed document as Guring is like calling for the vote and his show. him in his face and Gering just is like looking over him acting like he doesn't see him
Starting point is 01:12:48 he slams it down on the desk in front of him and he just smiles at him he calls the vote and holds it anyway and at a vote of 500 to 45 Pappen is gone and not gone in the sense of like he just gets booted but apparently like that means your term is coming to an end sooner no confidence and it's no confidence so basically
Starting point is 01:13:07 he's still kind of in that position because it comes back into play here in a little bit so there's almost like this token van happen in in the chancellor position well the token van pepin is replaced by schleischer that's right yep so again they go to hindenberg like hey yeah he offers to resign like on novemberg like hey and then kurt von schleiker instead of being like well we should put hitler in this position he actually kind of has a change of heart and goes to hendemberg and is like hey you know i was a general in the
Starting point is 01:13:42 military and everything i want to give a crack at this chancellor thing and Hindenberg is like, sure, cool. And he gets approved and put into position on December 2nd. How did he not see what Gordon just did? And he's like, I don't want any part of that. Like, that seems like a crazy. He thinks because he's a general and everything, he's used to just holding people under his command.
Starting point is 01:14:00 So I think he thinks he could, oh, that's why he does it. Because he thinks he can pull one up on the Nazi party. So what he does is to split their power base and not make them as effective. He offers the vice chancellor position to, Strasser. And Strasser is like, declines and he's like, I can't, he's like, I'm not going to go against my party like that.
Starting point is 01:14:21 They find out that they met and that he offered it, regardless of him declining it, they kick him out of the Nazi party. So now he doesn't have a political party. They can't turn right around and then put him back in there because he's no longer part of the majority party. So it's not like they can go back and be like, well, now that I'm out, I can, you know, I don't have party loyalty.
Starting point is 01:14:38 He just can't take the position. And he's gone. So January 4th in 1933, three, Hitler actually meets with Van Pappen in secret. And basically, they're like, hey, we should do this like Van Pappen, Hitler, like, deal and everything like that. And Hitler's like, nah, he's like, again, I'm not playing second fiddle. Like, I'm not going to be the vice chancellor of this.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Well, they don't come to an agreement, but Hitler sets it up to where when he's leaving Van Pappen's residence, he has his photographer snapping pictures. He gives him a big theatrical handshake, like they just agreed on a partnership, big enthusiastic and they end up running those fucking paper, uh, pictures in the paper. The Nazi paper. The Nazi paper. And although Van Pappen is out on this, he still has like, he has, uh, Hindenberg's ear. Yes. Very much, uh, I don't know, somebody that he would bounce a lot of ideas off of. Pappen and Hindenberg were pretty thick together. So as this is happening, Von Schleischer takes over. We have another election. Um,
Starting point is 01:15:45 failed to get over 50% the first election. Next election, they actually see a decent increase, but they still can't quite get there. I believe they were at 43%, and they form another coalition, probably maybe with the same people. And by that time, they do hit the 50% majority. And so that puts Chancellor, Hitler, on the table
Starting point is 01:16:12 because now he's a viable option. They've crossed that threshold. they have a chance and it becomes a situation where Hitler is kind of asking for this before and now he's in like an undeniable position. Well, and they find out, did you mention the tax scandal? Oh, that's right. So they threw spying and shit like that and all of their fucking digging up dirt. Again, this party is like playing like dirty fucking politics.
Starting point is 01:16:36 They're trying to find out anything they can on their political opponents. They got Herbert Hoover or J. Edgar Hoover working for him. Yeah, more or less. so they end up finding some stuff out on Hindenburg about him not paying his taxes or some shit so they have some dirt on him Hindenberg is losing faith in Schleiker and so Pappen comes back
Starting point is 01:16:57 and even though he's not a chancellor position he's still an influential person in politics people will still go and bend his ear for information stuff like that so he actually proposes Hitler's chancellor again and Pabbin's like I'll be the vice chancellor I'll keep him in check and I'll keep him in check that way you can fire him
Starting point is 01:17:14 but I'll also have all the day-to-day type dealing, so I'll be able to keep you your price, and if he needs to get let go, I'll give you the signal, and you just get rid of him, and then I'll step back into the chancellor. He's like, we'll do this, and what we'll also do to limit his power
Starting point is 01:17:27 is we won't let him fill all of these cabinet positions with, like, the Nazis. We're only going to give them two cabinet positions. So they're like, well, this sounds great. You know, we'll be able to go ahead and control him, get him to do what we want and everything. And so Hindenberg reluctantly agree, and swears Hitler in on January 30th, 1933, as the fucking chancellor of Germany.
Starting point is 01:17:51 And right after this happens, Ludendorf sends a letter, sends a letter to Hindenburg, and basically the gist of it is, I know Hitler, I've dealt with Hitler, what you've just done is you've turned over our country to a fucking madman. And this will be the decision that will haunt your name and curse your name for eternity. So basically just calls him out and says this is what's going to fucking happen and just calls the shot. Wouldn't wrong. No.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Five hours after fucking taken office, he meets with like, Hitler meets with like his cabinet, his inner circle and starts making plans, he's like, so we should just dissolve parliament. We should just dissolve the right stag, right? And basically, because he can't just go about just dissolving yet, because it's
Starting point is 01:18:38 part of the constitution, he doesn't have those powers yet or anything, and he still has oversight. He's like, okay, well, what we're going to do is we're going to set up new elections because there's a new chancellor. The new elections are going to be held on March 5th. So they got the elections sorted out, got that squared away and coming up. Well, during a dinner prior to the elections, there's a whole bunch of like the military brass and all that kind of stuff. And Hitler ends up giving his speech and basically lays out what his policy and what his reign is going to be.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Rearmament is going to be a priority. the conquest of the east to take back the lands lost. And is it Liebenstog? I was trying to figure out what that is. His whole thing is about it's this term. I want to say it's Liebenstog, sorry if I mispronagnostic, but what it translates to in German is living space. And his grand design, as also I think covered in mind comp,
Starting point is 01:19:33 is that he wants to create, unite all of the Germans people, German people, and then give them enough room to thrive by conquering into the east and giving them room to, grow and to create an empire. And part of this is you know, he's talking to these people that are in the military and they're just like
Starting point is 01:19:52 like, is this guy fucking like, sir? Like this guy's in a position now where he's going to try to make this stuff happen. Like, this is some crazy shit, but then he has a couple people that are still under that. You know, stabbing the back type thing where they're like, we should have a loss. Like maybe
Starting point is 01:20:09 this is our destiny. Maybe we're supposed to have another shot at this. And so as he's scheming, he just constantly is trying to figure out a way to gain more power. And he's doing these things that seem kind of innocuous when they get put in front of the Reichstag. Like they're restricted to the two cabinet positions. But how he ends up circumventing that as he's like, so Herman Gurring is in one of the positions. Why don't we make him like interior minister of Prussia? And they're like, okay, I mean, that seems like it's not a super important cabinet position.
Starting point is 01:20:39 He'll just be the minister of Prussia. that gives him control over the police state and the policing of Prussia. Prussia holds 60% of the German population. So they just handed the Nazi party the policing of authority over 60% of the German population. And it's around this time that now that that's in play, Gurings sets up what's going to be known as the secret state police. And more commonly known as the Gestapo. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:10 that's right. That's right. The Gestapo. There's just so many weird kind of things at play. Like he, he's figured out so well the ways where he can circumvent the law to where he can still kind of work within that democratic framework that he lied that he was going to stick to. But he had a brain to be able to figure out, like putting Gering in that position. It's such a strategic move that it seems so brilliant, but nobody. would catch on to it. Nobody would understand what was going on. And I think we're about to get into the most contentious part of our topic, at least between you and I, because I know that we have some differing opinions on this.
Starting point is 01:21:57 But when you were talking about Hitler not really being able to figure out how to get rid of that whole Reichstag issue and try to dissolve Parliament so he doesn't have to work with him. on February 27th, 1933, a younger gentleman named Marianus van lube, or van der lube. He was a Dutch communist.
Starting point is 01:22:20 He had made his way into Germany. God, I don't remember. It was like lie or something like that. It was a mining industry, I believe. So this guy was partially blind and apparently very easily wasn't the sharpest tool and was very easily influenced. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:22:39 This is where we're going to, and we're going to agree to disagree on this, but basically February 27th, he buys a buttload of lighters. And all of a sudden, very conveniently, the Reichstag happens to be set on fire. And Hitler sees this, and is just absolutely thrilled and mentioned something, I think, to either, no, not goring, but I think Gerbils, and he's like, I've got them now or something like that. coincidentally enough, here's here's my pitch. Gurring is the first one on the scene and basically they immediately blamed communist.
Starting point is 01:23:15 They haven't even found this van der Lube guy yet but they immediately suspect that it's a communist, international communist plot. So they end up finding the firefighters are there, they're trying to put out the fire,
Starting point is 01:23:26 the main chamber's already kind of collapsed on in on itself and wandering the fucking ruins and burned out portions is a shirtless Vanderlub. who once he said it, because of the smoke and his partial blindness and his confusion, couldn't find his way out of the Reichstag, yet somehow survived in there.
Starting point is 01:23:47 I don't know. And the other part, too, is that, yeah, the police come and they interview him, but because Goering is there and controls essentially the police, they're able to completely control the narrative. And without even a... This guy just happens to be like a card-carrying member of the Communist Party. Like it's right after he fucking gets elected. He's starting to make these changes.
Starting point is 01:24:10 He needs the right stag out of the way you're in chaos. He needs something to happen to go ahead and grant himself those emergency powers that basically turned the chancellor into the sole authority. And what better way than to have a communist end up setting fire to the right stag? The newspapers that they have access to even run that story like the next day before it's even been investigated. into they control that much of it to where now they've drummed up essentially this public fever of like we're under attack from communism and this Germany under attack line is essentially going to be used to create this thing called the Reichstag fire decree and the very next day the very next day and what this does and I'm trying to figure out how this passed and how any of this
Starting point is 01:25:05 was justified as far as like how it relates to a communist setting fire to this building. So basically Hitler is saying our country is under attack, a national threat by the communists. So what I'm going to do is part of this fire decree is it's going to go ahead and put certain powers in myself, basically all of them. What it's also going to do is I'm going to really crack down on things like the right to assemble, free speech. Also, it's going to go ahead and increase police powers where they're able to go ahead and do a little bit more than they should. And after this is passed within the first two weeks, 10,000 people are arrested under suspicion of being a communist
Starting point is 01:25:46 and not just that. I think some of the people in the Jewish community are also arrested. Anybody that at this point is not a political ally of Hitler, people just start getting picked up. Anybody that's not nailed down with Nazi nails, well men the women I think were probably mostly spared and it was men that were taken in
Starting point is 01:26:10 but yeah I mean it's it was a hell of a move I think he mostly got it through because they were still they hadn't had their elections yet I think Hindenberg signed it when he was still half asleep or some shit and Hindenberg threw it in front of it again getting getting on in the years
Starting point is 01:26:26 and it was an old man fear mongering too we're under attack by the by the communists and everything I need these powers now so I can go ahead and save us you know, I'm the, I'm the German savior. Yeah, it was definitely a move that feels like it was a, I don't know that it could have been playing and coordinated. It's, I just feel like it's, this is, um,
Starting point is 01:26:51 the Great Depression all over again. This is a stock market crash all over again. It just, chaos. The right place at the right time. Every time he's gained a new level of power, it has been through chaos. Yeah. And at this point, he's learned how to, manufacture that, not wait for it. He's now
Starting point is 01:27:05 manufacturing the chaos. I don't think he manufactured this one. You say... It's too coincidentally timed. It's too coincidentally tied up neatly with a found adversary that he could turn into a national scare and get himself these powers, man. I think it's just
Starting point is 01:27:21 too. If looking into him he, the plan may seem far-fetched and stuff like that, like, what if that guy would have escaped the fire or something like that? I'm not even saying that they like, approached him as the Nazi party and everything. But if he was out and they had,
Starting point is 01:27:37 you know, they had people everywhere, like I was saying. All they had to do was influence him. He could have been there and been waiting for another guy to help him that could have been in on it or someone posing as a communist. And that guy just didn't show up or that guy showed up, helped him do it and then left. The other thing, too. So Gurring was the first one on there.
Starting point is 01:27:54 Coincidentally enough, Gurring also has in his office a tunnel that leads into the Reichstadt. So it's not like, it's that far-fetched. I mean, agree to disagree and everything like that. Either way, it works out in beautiful, just, coincidence. Yeah. For Hitler. So you give a zero percent chance on it was... Zero. Okay. I'll put zero on that. I'll stamp that shit. Okay. And then even after that, so he's trying to gain more powers, more powers, then we get to the Enabling Act. And what that
Starting point is 01:28:30 does is that's... Well, we got to hit the elections. Oh, okay. Yeah, so March 6th, 1933, after all this happened, they yield 43% of the vote again and have to form another coalition to be able to get that 50% majority. So there's still people, and this is where I come back, like the conversation that we've had versus the Nazi party, the people that collaborate and were with them, versus what population of Germany we believe was against this, but kind of powerless to do anything. Yeah. The fact that they're still not getting 50% of the vote, even with all of the potential influence. and voter intimidation, everything like that that they're pulling at this point, still says to me that, like,
Starting point is 01:29:09 the majority is still trying to find something different. Yeah. I'm not going to say it's going to stay that way once everything kicks off, but at least at this point, there's still some resistance to these ideas. And that's solely the Nazi party. The other factions of the far right,
Starting point is 01:29:27 like the DMVP again that they had to, um, form these coalitions with, they had to use them in certain ways to be able to get there. So these people had to kind of believe in the shit that Hitler was putting out there. So they were also probably fairly bad people too. But almost the more interesting stat was we saw these major jumps in popularity for them to get to where they were. And then it's almost kind of like tabled.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Like there weren't more heights in the public voting system that they were going to be able to get. to. They saw that they had gotten to essentially a stalemate on this they were plateaued nationally. And now they needed to look for another way to essentially not even even the odds and everything. They basically needed a way to get them that additional bump and that extra step up.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Yeah. And that's exactly what you're talking about with the Enabling Act. The Enabling Act basically just granted Hitler's power to enact laws without the Reich Tags consent for four years. That is an extremely long time to just completely
Starting point is 01:30:35 gut the Reichstag. I mean, these people that power. Yeah. They're still going to be voted for. They're still going to be put into office and all that kind of stuff, but they're basically just there to fill seats. Yeah. Like there's just, there's really no other thing that they can do. March 23rd, they put it to the vote
Starting point is 01:30:53 and they're voting, I believe it's in like a theater or something like that. Yeah, like an opera house or something like that. Yeah. Could have been. The whole entire place is lying, with SS members. SS and the NSA? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:07 They're right there to make sure that this vote goes the way that it should go. And of course, it passes, I think with like a 90% of the vote and the Reichstag. 441 to 94. Okay. So not a 90%,
Starting point is 01:31:24 but a good amount. Yeah. Yep. And this is when you start to see essentially at this point, pretty much all the, they're never going to relinquish this level of power. They get to this and they only gain more.
Starting point is 01:31:37 It never goes back until the end of World War II. Yeah. And they do some crazy shit. They ban the Social Democratic Party. All trade unions are forced to dissolve. Did you see how they did that with the trade unions? Uh-uh. So what they did is Hitler fucking created a union holiday.
Starting point is 01:31:55 They'd wanted a trade union holiday. And then that weekend, as they left for a long weekend, he raided their fucking offices for all the trade unions. and basically like arrested a whole bunch of the people. Just blackbag jobbed him. Blackbag jobbed him so he could go do this while they were all, you know, going on a long weekend. And basically that's what they used to dissolve the trade unions.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Like you said, they basically arrested leaders of other political parties. And this is where you're going to get the first instances of them being sent to what will become the concentration camps at this point. They're just kind of the prison and work camps. Yeah. Sort of the same idea is like a, Well, I think concentration comes from the sort of re-education that they're trying to do for a lot of these. So you have these labor union leaders that are going into these concentration camps along.
Starting point is 01:32:46 This is more like Dachau. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think Dachau is like what, like 12 miles from Munich? They're pulling these guys in. These social democratic party leaders that are getting taken there at the same time are also being reprogrammed to try to be Nazis. It's a fallen police state. Like this is literally just like you're taking out your political opponents. You're arresting them for essentially no crimes other than just being politically against you.
Starting point is 01:33:13 Well, and that leads right into July 14th, 1933. Again, just bang, bang, bang. Nazi party is declared the only legal political party in Germany. So they have become the only people that are allowed to rule, which is, I mean, you just, you don't lose after that. So you are basically, in essence, the only party that is allowed to do anything politically, so you just own the country. I don't know if you have anything before Hindenberg's passing. So before his passing, they also start to put in some pretty, as crazy as we've already discussed stuff. Now we start getting into the real fucking horrible shit.
Starting point is 01:33:53 So kind of during this time, Himmler takes over with the Gestapo. He's already kind of been working and building up the SS. at this point there's a million SS members Dachau like we were talking about gets opened up It was an old munitions factory They didn't build these things purpose built Essentially at this point for like the concentration camp So they'd repurpose places
Starting point is 01:34:12 Yeah There's a boycott of all Jewish businesses Businesses are banned And they're also banned from like schools and higher education They're really starting to ban them at this point From any type of like holding any type of civil offices And any type of like social settings Yeah
Starting point is 01:34:28 July 20th Pope fucking Pius signs the Concord Act with fucking Hitler. I don't know what it was, but the fact that the Pope fucking signs up with fucking Hitler for something, I know it wasn't a bad thing. Right, it was a bad thing, but it wasn't like a bad thing. He's not like, I'm signing this act to condemn you. Like, it wasn't that type of shit.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Still working with a bad man. Exactly. Oh, we have a ton of shit. Before Hindenburg. Yeah, okay, what do you got? So I was going to say in 33, this is where you get the sterilization laws coming into play. So as part of this, you're getting people that essentially have undesirable traits that are being sterilized overall throughout the course of the Nazi reign.
Starting point is 01:35:09 400,000 people are going to be rendered childless. And 300,000 people that are in psychiatric hospitals are going to be euthanized. I can't remember what they fucking tried to dress it up for, but they tried to call it something that made it seem like it was a fucking merciful death or some shit like that. But yeah, 300,000 just people being in psychiatric hospitals were all euthanized. Yeah, his eugenics policy just ran wild. He was trying to build this superior race of people by taking out the less fortunate people in life that hadn't been gifted, you know, with the normalities that other people have. And just those numbers alone to think about the sterilization is so bad, but the euthanization of the others is just, it's crazy. Well, on October 14th, they actually vote.
Starting point is 01:35:57 to pull themselves out of the League of Nations. I thought this would have happened before this, but apparently they were waiting on it. Hitler actually schedules the vote for armistice weekend. So it reminds everybody why they fucking lost. So when they're talking about the League of Nations, it's drumming up all those feelings, and that fucking passes.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Like you said, they have the Nazi-only elections. They have the trial for the fucking Reichstag fire. Five people are up on trial. One guy is, you know, Vanderlub, and then there's some other what they consider conspirators. Basically rounded them up and said you were a part of this. One of the guys ends up becoming like the prime minister of like Holland or something at some point. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:37 And he, when it all is said and done, even the fucking legal system at this point, only Vanderlub is found guilty. The other ones, there's not enough evidence. Apparently this guy that ends up becoming like the prime minister or something like that. I can't remember which country. Don't quote me that it's Holland. He ends up just like making like gerbils and gurring on the stand. like look like a fool with like cross-examination. And so he ends up getting the other four guys off.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Vanderlube, I think, is put under the guillotine. Yeah. So, yeah, he doesn't meet a great end. The Hitler starts to notice the issue. He's starting to kind of look. He's already making plans for the expansion. One of the things that's drawing his eye is the Jewish corridor and the separation of Prussia.
Starting point is 01:37:22 His focus is to try to unite essentially. Polish corridor? Yep. What I say? Jewish. I said Polish. Did I say Jewish corridor? Maybe you said Polish.
Starting point is 01:37:32 I think I said Polish. There probably are some Jewish people living there. Yeah. But the Polish corridor. And so Poland starts to get a little worried about all this stuff because out of all of the countries that essentially have the most German land taken from essentially the pre-World War I German Empire, whatever, is Poland. If anything, they would, I would think that they would feel like they got the biggest
Starting point is 01:37:55 bullseye on them. So Hitler is just. like, you know what, let's just sign a non-aggression pact, and we'll try to figure out this whole, you know, Polish corridor thing later. Big on non-aggression packs. That was a big thing that I think he did with a lot of different countries that seemed like he just, he was basically sending a pre-aggression pact with him. That's all that it was. Just let you know I'm here. Yep.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Yeah, along with that, expanded the Vermeck to 600,000, so six times the amount that he was supposed to be able to. As soon as he gets out of League of Nations he's like well it's fucking on now Yeah that was like it was like some weird like That's not what is keeping them from fucking Raising a military But it's like it was a weird like formality for him He's like oh so this gives me permission
Starting point is 01:38:40 Since I'm no longer under his jurisdiction But yeah so like you were saying On August 22nd in 34 Hindenberg dies Hitler's still just building up his power base That's all he's doing is he's grabbing any control wall where he can Yeah and he before von Hindenberg Berg dies, we have some real business to take care of. The Night of the Long Knives.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Oh, yes. The night of the long knives occurred from the 30th of June to the 2nd of July in 1934. And it was basically Hitler tying up any loose end that he felt like needed to be tied up. So what kind of caused this? Did you see what kind of cause this to actually happen? Yeah. Rom was going to Van Schleischer sort of allegedly
Starting point is 01:39:28 behind Hitler's back There was enough there that they found out Like Rom wasn't happy Because the essay was having to take the backseat When they felt like they were like one of the sole reasons For the rise of the party and like their authority Yeah So they were like you know
Starting point is 01:39:42 They were now kind of like They had the new kid now The essay and the Gestapo and everything So they thought that they were being betrayed They were jealous of that They were given jobs too They found out about the trade union thing. And they're like, we're fucking workers.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Like, what the fuck are you doing? You just gave all the power to, like, you were supposed to be the National Socialist German Workers Party. So they felt fucking betrayed by this stuff. Well, and to satiate them, too, they were like, hey, go work in these concentration camps. Like, you guys can go bully these. Or you could be the border force. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:10 You could, like, be the border force and everything. And Ron was like, no, I'm not fucking. So he actually kind of speaks against Hitler a little bit. And at some point, there's some other infighting, like Pappen, apparently is still like not a political power but he's still influential politically so he like
Starting point is 01:40:30 attacks gerbils and then I'm trying to kind of figure out how this leads up to the night long knife sorry Hitler ends up visiting Hindenburg like before his death and it's under the guise of letting him know what's going on with the workings and everything but it's really just to see what his health is
Starting point is 01:40:50 and like how close how much time Hitler has before he's dead and he can really make his his biggest moves. But getting back to the night of the long knives. So there's some dissension going on. And basically Hitler finds out about this and gets hold of ROM and is like, hey, we need to go ahead and meet up, get all of your lieutenants and everything. We need to talk about this and kind of bury this thing and figure out how you guys are
Starting point is 01:41:12 going to contribute. So during this whole point, too, is, you know, Himmler's been digging up all this stuff on ROM and I think he's introduced some false stuff. Yeah. He said that Rom was meeting like with French dignitary. and all this shit. He had met with like Strausser and like all these other people
Starting point is 01:41:28 and basically plays up this fear that like he's gonna make a move against Hitler. So June 27th, the night of the long nights was actually the 31st, right? It was from June 30th to July 2nd so I'm assuming
Starting point is 01:41:41 because they had rounded up the essay. Yeah, so Hitler's on his way back I think to Berlin. He calls to get the SS mobilized tells wrong to basically gather his lieutenants and then, oh, he's there in Munich, sorry. Hitler flies to Munich to basically arrest Rom and comes in to either the hotel or wherever they're staying, comes into his room and Rom wakes up with Hitler and his Lugar and his bodyguard
Starting point is 01:42:05 standing over him. And come to find out that next door was like a lieutenant like sleeping with like another like essay, essay member. And then like they start going down the whole hotel. And it's just like all of this just like dude on dude action just like spilling out of these hotel rooms. Hot dude on dude action is happening as they're breaking these doors down. So on the 31st, Hitler calls Geringen gives him, do you remember the code word?
Starting point is 01:42:36 Calibre. Huh? Calibre. Calabre? He gives him the word to run with the operation for the essay purge. And it's not just the essay that is getting purged by this. At this point, Hitler needs to have complete and total control. So any dissent, and anybody that has wronged him, the night of the long knives is for them.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Yeah. So they storm Pappen's office. And he's not there. His press secretary is so they pull him into a room and shoot him in the back ten times. Kurt Von Schleiker, he's the guy that kind of stole the chancellorship that first time away from Hitler. He ends up getting killed in his home by some good shopper guys. And his wife comes out after they shoot him and they kill her too. Yep.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Yeah, she didn't make it out of life. Strasser gets arrested and thrown into jail and Dukeshopo jail and then they fire at him with a machine gun through the bars. He's trying to dodge it and finally they open the cell and finish him off. Redder von Carr, remember the guy during the beer hall push that told Hitler he was going to be on a side and then left
Starting point is 01:43:40 and got the police involved. Yeah, he paid for that. They end up killing him, like take him out to the swamp and kill him with a pickaxe. And even the guy who helped Hitler write Mind Kampf fucking they kill him because he was the one that was aware of the truth
Starting point is 01:43:55 of certain things and everything and so they end up getting rid of him as well and this isn't just the people that I'm talking about that get killed this is just kind of like showing you how widespread spanning it is it's not just people within the essay or within his own organization anybody that has ever crossed
Starting point is 01:44:13 him is going to fucking get it this night it was officially reported 85 people died later estimates and go back and looking at it, it looks like about a thousand people had died. And that was members of the SA that they had rounded up, that they were killing if they
Starting point is 01:44:29 weren't sending them off to these work camps. They were literally like, they had made a call for people to report back to like, um, I say headquarters. And as they were showing up, they were just being like, nope, follow us. And then they would have these buses full of guys take them to get a job of headquarters and line them up against a wall and shoot
Starting point is 01:44:44 him. Yeah, just a real bad deal. He put some real torture on ROM. Uh, Ron was in a prison cell, and he had two Gestapo guards go in. They dropped him off a luger, and they dropped him off one bullet, and they said, if you have any bravery, you will do what the Fuhr wants you to do. They walk out of the cell, no shot, no shot, no shot, walk back into the cell. He says he's not going to kill himself, and they kill him.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Just they put that little bit of extra mind torture in there, almost. like they didn't want to do it because they didn't want to have to report to Hitler that it was that way. Almost like it was Rom's last test of loyalty or some shit. Yeah. But in the end, it was going to kill him. Yeah, but Hillary would have felt a lot, but I'm guessing it would have been like his loyalty was always to me like and everything. But the fact, it was like a last insult to fucking Hitler. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:41 But it really was just him cleaning up every sort of issue that could challenge his power. And he gets the ultimate cleanup. up August 2nd, 1934. What happened in September, though? What was the, I forgot, what was the Ship Act? A ship act? Yeah, the Nazi Party annexed, the Nuremberg laws. Oh, that's, we'll get to that right after, because this is 34, that's 35.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Oh, okay. I just put it in the wrong spot. So, 1934, excuse me, Hindenberg dies. And when Hindenberg dies, Hitler had put it in writing and had Hindenberg's son at some point that, As Hindenberg dies, the presidential position is dissolved. It's something he paints it. He paints it as a way that no one will ever compare. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:29 And sends him off and like he's like he's going to receive a, he gets a funeral service like one of like the Kaiser's. And he sends him off. He's like no one can ever fill von Hindenberg shoes. He's like, and so because of that, it'll just be the chancellor. No one will be president again. It'll just be the chancellor. And ultimately when he does that, he takes over all of the military power, all of the military fight.
Starting point is 01:46:55 We have, as you were just talking about, September 15th, 1935, he enacts two separate laws, and these laws were called the Nuremberg laws. One of them was called the Reich Citizenship Act. that one both of these are pertaining to Jewish people come on the citizenship law was the Nazi party
Starting point is 01:47:26 had always promised that if they came to power only racially pure Germans would be allowed to hold German citizenship the right citizenship law made this a reality the law defined a citizen
Starting point is 01:47:36 as a person who is of German or related blood this meant that Jews defined as a separate race could not be full citizens of Germany and they had no political rights So they use citizenship through genealogy basically to disqualify any Jewish people from having any sort of political power
Starting point is 01:47:56 to be able to vote or do anything else. To be able to actually enact change. We've taken away so much from you already, but now here's the last vestige of any choice you have in something. Yeah. And these are coming just straight from the Holocaust Encyclopedia. Our second one is going to be the law of protection of German blood and honor. and that law for the protection of German blood and honor
Starting point is 01:48:18 was a law against the Nazis viewed as a race mixing or race defilement. That sounds terrible. Ban future intermarriages and sexual relations between Jews and people of German related blood. The Nazis believed that such relationships were dangerous because that led to mixed race children. According to Nazis, these children and their descendants
Starting point is 01:48:39 undermine the purity of the German race. So not only have you strictly... not taking any time. Yeah. Yeah, just that quick to just start dropping them from political power and then to start controlling marriages so they were unable to really have any sort of effect. And it just really gets worse from there. We'll talk about Crystal Noct in a little bit, but that was just one of the worst things that I ever had to read about. March 36
Starting point is 01:49:09 Germany reoccupies the Rhineland So they've already started Moving on into these territories to take it over So they took over the DMZ The demilitarized zone July 36 Well and at this point
Starting point is 01:49:25 Kind of going back to what you were saying After leaving the League of Nation Like expanding the what they consider now The German military They call it the Vermacht And so they expand that up initially To 600,000 They already have a huge
Starting point is 01:49:37 pool that they can pull from like former SA, SS, things like that, that they can put into positions of leadership. They've been developing already an Air Force, and Gurring has been put in charge of that. And basically, what they're doing is they're training pilots as part of, like, a flying sport club. Yep. Like, it's like sport flying. So that's how they're able to get away with the development of, like, fighter aircraft and everything. They're supposed to be for recreational. And they start also starting to like develop and start to kind of build up like a Navy. Pocket destroyers, I believe. Pocket destroyers. Or pocket battleships. That's okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:08 It was pocket battleships. So it wasn't violating certain things about the size of like ships they were supposed to have. What they've also started doing is they're designing the bombers that they're going to be using for their terror campaigns, except they're using them and putting seats in them and using them as passenger and cargo planes. So they're basically super easily to be converted into like bomb bays and everything. So they're developing an Air Force for attack, but disguising it as just commercial aircraft. And you got to understand at this time too, again, there's not fucking satellite, there's not surveillance, there's not anything like that. You do have people that are in Germany that are representatives of the powers that won the First World War like embassies and things like that. You have ambassadors that are working with certain people within Germany.
Starting point is 01:50:54 But this stuff isn't being done right in their sight line. They're doing this in remote places where they can do it in secret. And these people don't know what's going on. You again have, you know, all of like the press within Germany completely stifled for, you know, freedom of the press. But that doesn't go to the foreign correspondence, but they're only able to see certain information. They do see a lot of the shit of cutting down on the rights. They're completely aware of that because they know that their German counterparts can't do shit. They're watching the left hand while the right hand is developing everything.
Starting point is 01:51:23 They see this stuff going against the Jewish community. And so this information is getting out of Germany about all this stuff. It's just that none of these other countries, no one wants to get into another war. You know, there's a little bit of like, hey, you know, what the fuck's going on in Germany? But no one has stepped in to be like, actually be like, hey, stop what you guys are fucking doing. Nobody's put their foot down. Like, no one's willing to like go in at this point. Everyone's still kind of trying to work to rebuild themselves after this.
Starting point is 01:51:49 But I think when this finally came to light about what's going on, they're like, okay, when did this fucking happen? Like, did this guy literally just sneak into him? They're like, no, this, like six years, five six years. They've been working on it. Yeah, they've been fucking doing this the whole time. And so now you get to, like you were saying, 36, Germany reoccupies the Rhineland and everything. Or that's March 36.
Starting point is 01:52:12 July 36, you get Francisco Franco. Francisco Franco and the Spanish Civil War. So you get him leading, was it the nationalist or what was his? This was the revolutionary side. Yeah. And then you had the Republic. The Republic communists. And they were still in.
Starting point is 01:52:28 had essentially Russia supporting the republic, the current power, and then you had Hitler stepping into being like, hey, Franco, you need some help? Well, we got some shit that we want to test out. Yeah. Would you mind testing
Starting point is 01:52:44 down and seeing these tanks work and seeing how these guns work? And, you know, why don't we send over some pilots to just help you guys train you guys, maybe fly some of the planes? So, I think we've mentioned this kind of before in a previous episode, probably like the D-Day one, that they had, the Luftwaffe, had had training.
Starting point is 01:52:59 So they were just basically doing like a warm-up war. They had nothing to win or lose in this. But if they did win, Hitler was essentially creating a potential ally. Yeah. So that happens during the Spanish Civil War. Then we get August 1936. Hitler orders Gering to basically prepare Germany for war in four years.
Starting point is 01:53:18 So he's already putting a date on it. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty fucking quick. That's pretty fast to be able to put all this stuff together. if it's just indeed four years, but it's really not because they've been working on this and slowly piecing these things together to be able to convert them.
Starting point is 01:53:35 And so four years is a real sped up timeline. And as we'll see, I mean, he says that in 36, they've already been at war for years by the time four years would be up. By the time 1940 rolls around, they're already hot and heavy. I think the thing is, is he has some situations in which he plans for.
Starting point is 01:53:51 So he's like, we're going to be in war in four years. But what happens is I think he has like, because he starts preparing you know, the war in the East and is offensive. But I think that he thinks it's going to maybe take longer and he's going to have larger breaks before, like, the next campaign. But once he gets into it and they start just steamrolling and being able to take over these territories,
Starting point is 01:54:12 I think his brain kicks in is just like, oh, let's just keep going. Yeah, let's just keep going. Yeah. We're taking these guys' fries. So November 1st, is this when him and Mussolini decide to go ahead and create their little partnership? Yeah. this is when Mussolini declares the Axis.
Starting point is 01:54:29 And like we kind of talked about earlier with Hitler or Mussolini, Hitler really looked up to Mussolini. He felt like he was somebody that he wanted to model his kind of takeover after. And the first time they meet is, we believe, maybe the first time that he had actually left the country and went down to Italy. He meets Mussolini down there. He has, like, really poor Italian that has that really just nasty accent behind it. and Mussolini got taught like third grade German. So these two can't communicate whatsoever really. And it's just kind of Hitler yelling at Mussolini
Starting point is 01:55:05 and Mussolini trying to figure out like what words he can use in German to try to oppress this guy. And of course it's passed off for both of like their newspapers and everything is like a shining success of a partnership and like nothing fucking came of it. So Mussolini's taking him around Italy. And one of the things that they had scheduled was an army parade. And so they roll up to it. And Mussolini's guys are so just out of practice and just don't care anymore, that as they're marching down the street, they're running into each other.
Starting point is 01:55:34 And as they're running into each other, these different units and troops start fighting on the street in front of Mussolini and Hitler. Mussolini's just sitting there watching it. Hey, look at where you're going. I was here first. Hitler kind of looks over at Mussolini and Mussolini's like, yeah? You impressed? He's like, how the fuck you get a dictator for 12 years old? you doing, man.
Starting point is 01:55:57 Just the way that they meet each other was just so unspectacular. And by the time Hitler left, Mussolini's like, this guy's a joke. And Hillary's like, the fuck did this guy get in power? So they already have that dynamic of like, Mussolini was built up so much in Hitler's mind that when he finally meets him, it's like, wow, I passed this like five years ago. Well, this is disappointing. Yeah, you don't got a whole lot going on here. Maybe it wasn't as tough for you to get to where you got to as it was.
Starting point is 01:56:26 for me. Well, and the thing is so he, you know, he hasn't essentially done anything as far as, like, invading anyone yet, but he knows essentially that there's going to be some blowback between, like, Britain, uh, France, uh, possibly the United States, like, we're still the fucking ocean
Starting point is 01:56:42 away and everything. And so he basically, you know, when he's building up for war and everything, he understands also through some of the military commanders that know about actual fucking, like, war. I think he listens to them enough. I think he listens to them enough to where it is
Starting point is 01:56:57 he knows he needs to have some support. He can't count exclusively on Francoe yet because he doesn't know how that's going to go and he knows that he might be weak essentially from you know the Mediterranean strategically. He knows that part of his plan of course is to fucking invade Russia. He knows he's going to need support for that
Starting point is 01:57:13 too and he knows that there's somebody that he needs to partner up with. Mussolini is really kind of the only choice in this scenario because he's also a dictator and feels like he has some type of similarities with him He had to get there somehow. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:57:28 Like he has, maybe I can learn something from this guy. Yeah. So Hitler orders preparations for war in the East by 1938. So they're just fucking building up armor this entire time. We stepped up that four years timeline pretty quick. Mm-hmm. And then no later than 1943 is when they want to go ahead and invade the East.
Starting point is 01:57:47 He appoints himself war minister in early 1938, despite his only soldiering experience literally being as a messenger, a bike fucking messenger, however they traveled around in World War I. Yeah, pretty, pretty bold move. And I don't know if that speaks more to like his megalomania or just the fact that he really only had one plan. And that was just what he wanted to go with. Well, like, once he establishes himself as war minister getting to, you know, Night of the Broken Glass, I think once he sets those plans in motion and then the gears are working to get them built up for war,
Starting point is 01:58:22 he then can focus his attention on this other shit. And so you get what's called, is it Crystal Knocht? Crystal Knotched, yeah. I almost think just with you saying that maybe after this all happens and he does become the war minister and they kind of have their eyes on some prizes, they needed something big to really distract those war correspondents and the other people from seeing this. That's true for the buildup, yeah. It could have been a smokescreen.
Starting point is 01:58:47 I mean, this is like the worst smokescreen possible. The night of the broken glass is from November 9th. November 10th in 1938 Jewish homes, hospitals, schools, everything is just sacked and demolished. Synagogues are fucking completely like torched. 267 synagogues are torched over 7,000
Starting point is 01:59:06 Jewish businesses are destroyed 30,000 Jewish men are arrested and sent to the concentration camps. They sit Oh shit. Oh my god, that was a bad bubble. You sound like Patrick Mahomes right there. Is that what it was? Hey, everybody.
Starting point is 01:59:21 They said that by the time Crystal Noct was over, that someone in every Jewish family in Germany had had a male of their family arrested. Just an insane amount. And of course, they were all shipped off to these concentration camps. Officially, again, 91 Jewish people were murdered. New estimates just going back and looking through, and not to mention the people that then took their lives after they realized kind of where they were. New estimates are in the hundreds. I still feel like that's low with 30,000 being arrested and as many, you know, synagogues
Starting point is 02:00:03 businesses were destroyed. Someone comes in and out just a voice protest and they're getting fucking shot. Well, and just to think about the livelihoods of how many families were ruined, 7,000 businesses were destroyed. 7,000, there were that many businesses that were owned by Jewish people. Well, that had to have been the majority, or if not all of them. I mean, your whole... This is obviously planned for a long time.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Yeah. The way that it was, you know, ex-cut and everything like that. It had obviously been in the works for a long time. Like you said, I think he just had certain things. He had a psycholist, and he had to cross certain stuff, and he'd crossed off the fucking war minister. He's like, what's next? And it was like, Crystal Noct.
Starting point is 02:00:44 And he was like, fuck yes. Oh, yeah. Even before this, the thing that I really had not... never heard about. Any Jewish people that were moving out of Germany had to pay an immigration tax. And that immigration tax would be on basically any asset that they had. And it was an extremely high tax that just made it almost impossible for a family to move out of the country.
Starting point is 02:01:12 With anything maybe but traveling with the clothes on their back. Exactly. Yeah. So just that get out. We don't want you here. well, if you're going to leave, we're going to take all your shit before you leave to make it impossible to want to leave. So these people were just in a no-win situation. And when Crystal Knock kicks off and it happens, it's just like the last straw really of a major list of shit that was done to them.
Starting point is 02:01:36 And it's just the beginning. This is literally just the beginning, essentially, of the rounding up. Like, the other stuff has been, like, light and basically just, like, public persecution, things like that. This is literally now, like, your freedom is being taken away from your life. is being taken away from you. And this doesn't stop. This kind of thing doesn't stop, not just in Germany, but any of the countries that they're going to go ahead and occupy and take over, this is going to be, it's going to repeat itself. The version of it is going to occur in all of those different countries. They realize as they're getting up for war, hey, you know,
Starting point is 02:02:09 Hitler knows that at some point he's going to be going against Russia. That's where he's going to be expanding to. So what's on the other side of Russia? Well, why don't we go ahead and make an alliance with Japan. So they go ahead and get that started in 1938 with the intention. It's kind of twofold for Hitler. One, he understands at a certain point once this war kicks off, the United States is going to come in. But if he can somehow distract them and give them something else to do, they have to then split their resources and split their forces. He sees Japan as an opportunity to go ahead and occupy the United States in the Pacific Theater. On the other side, too, he sees as an opportunity because Japan is essentially close to where they can get into Russia. through either, you know, China, the Koreas, that kind of area.
Starting point is 02:02:50 They've already had these conflicts with Russia before. Exactly. And they had won. He passed it off because here's the thing. This guy's preaching pure German, Aryan blood, all that kind of shit. And now he's talked so much shit about like the subhumans that are not Germans. Now he's doing this with Japan. And he's like, no, the Japanese are just like the German people, like a strong storied history and like a nationalistic sense of pride. and they've never lost a war in like 3,000 years,
Starting point is 02:03:19 their empire's never lost. So he's using this basically to say, well, I can at least pull some shit from Russia when they invade that way. And then, you know, it'll be easy for me to take over my territory in Russia. So he's just using these as pawns. Yeah. He has no intention of, you know,
Starting point is 02:03:34 if they want to keep a piece of land over there that's not going to bother him, maybe he'll have to do that later. But he understands that these are just tools for him to use. Well, and this makes Mussolini so jealous. Mussolini is not a real big fan. Used to be the bell to ball and now there's this new fancy new toy.
Starting point is 02:03:50 Yeah, it sort of turns him off to the point where he doesn't sign into the alliance with Japan for a ways after that. I don't know if it's bitterness. Yeah, like you say, maybe he's not the new kid on the block anymore. So he's kind of taken some umbrage with that. But it just, it's such a, all these steps are. so predetermined. Like you said, pointing all that stuff out with just how strategically important Japan was
Starting point is 02:04:20 finding other places to have kind of those same feelings, that nationalism and all that kind of stuff. I don't think they were a they didn't have a dictator, but they kind of had enough in common
Starting point is 02:04:38 to where the Japanese were like, yeah, we can do it. The Japanese had the emperor. Is that a dictator? Oh, he's the god. Okay, so yeah He's literally their god Remember we were talking about during Korea How the reason that like Douglas
Starting point is 02:04:52 When he took the picture of them He wanted to portray him as a man But he was literally they couldn't take him out He was their figurehead and God That's why they had to leave him in So yeah I mean there's I mean Hitler had to look at that And be like oh I want to be that guy
Starting point is 02:05:04 Could be yeah He was building himself toward that He definitely would have seen himself that way Well on the 12th of March He finally makes his first Big military type move And he basically rolls the 8th Army of the German
Starting point is 02:05:17 Vermeacht across the border into Austria and they're basically just greeted like heroes. Now here's the thing. I mean you can talk about this is during a lot of these like documentaries that you see all of the footage that is actually survived is stuff that was confiscated
Starting point is 02:05:34 from the Nazis at the end of the war. So whenever you see these videos of the Nazis rolling into these areas these are areas both close to the German border that have German people and everything like that. Like I said, the whole Austria thing when it got split up. You know, those people, a lot of them kind of felt like they'd lost so much of their land.
Starting point is 02:05:53 The people that were there near the border were more likely to be supportive of the Germans coming in and taking over. So it's not like you're driving all the way through the fucking country and you're getting fucking flags waved at you and cheers and everything like that. They're being selective in what they're showing. So when it's saying they drove in there to, you know, cheering crowds and flowers and Nazi flags and everything. that was just the area that they came into that was friendly to them and because of that they used that as an excuse to be like see see we're welcome here and Hitler always used this fucking excuse when it came to the world stage to justify his invasions he would always be like we've heard reports that german citizens or like german born peoples are being persecuted in Austria we need to go into I'm going in to help my German people and he would go in and instead of just being like oh I've helped the German people near the board he's like no
Starting point is 02:06:45 Nope, now that I'm here, we're just going to go ahead and take over and we're going to merge Austria back into the Third Reich. How can I trust Austria if they treated them so poorly before? I must take them over so that doesn't happen again. And they were already in the country at that point. And so basically it was a situation where Austria or the current government in Austria basically signed over the unification of Austria and Germany and made it official. And so that was just something that they were forced into doing. Yeah, he has his first, he has his first victory. without firing a shot. Yeah. That's a good start for him to really feel the way.
Starting point is 02:07:21 It's also a surprise. It wasn't like, hey, we're, you know, but they came in. They're like, look, we've got the support of the people at that point. The Austrian government's like, I can't get all my fucking troops together and all this kind of shit. I'm not going to lead my people into war, so I guess we're just going to have to fucking capitulate. And now I guess we're part of the Third Reich. Yeah, you would just be leading your people into slaughter at that point, so you just, you don't have an option. Well, now you've, now, you know, Hitler has crossed off that fucking thing off of his bucket list of uniting back the Austrian people with the greater, you know, German Empire, German Reich. That, you know, he did speeches about like that being the greatest moment in his life. You would think, okay, you, that was your plan to do that. So you're going to stop now, right? Well, no, it was so easy to fucking take over this country. You know what? I actually think over in Czechoslovakia, there's a bunch of ethnic German and what was it?
Starting point is 02:08:15 The Sudaten lands. In the Sedaten lands, which was near the German border, I think, of Czechoslovakian. And he's like, oh, you're never going to, you know, the League of Nations was like, hey, what the fuck are you doing in Austria? That's all it was, is asking questions. Like, hey, can you explain why you're in Austria? And he's like, well, the German people were here being persecuted here. So I came in to help them and, you know, to establish there might have been an uprising. We were helping to go ahead and control that.
Starting point is 02:08:39 They wanted us there. Like, I, okay, we might have to investigate this. and he looks at Czechoslovakian, he's like, well, shit, that worked before. He's like, guess what? You guys are never going to guess. There's people, ethnic Germans in the sedaten lands, who are being persecuted by essentially the Czechoslovakian government, and we need to go in there and save them. We don't have time for the League of Nations to step in. I'm on my way already.
Starting point is 02:09:03 And so he has his eyes on Czechoslovakia, which at this point, there's no excuse for that. He's just looking for these pockets of German people as an excuse. it's like, why was it never be like, hey, if you want them to live there, go fucking help them move there. Yeah. If you want them, yeah, like, you don't just get the land that they're fucking on. This was the land that was taken from you for losing the fucking, the last war. You can give these people German citizenship and just move them into your country. You don't have to take over where they are.
Starting point is 02:09:33 You can just take them back if you think they're being persecuted. But ultimately, that's just not the plan. That's not, Hitler's radar wasn't just. Austria and it's not just Czechoslovakia. And now he turns his eyes to that place he signed the non-aggression pact with. The place that he, I think he's had his eye on the most part for the entire time.
Starting point is 02:09:56 And this is going to be, essentially this move is going to finally fucking be the move too many. Yeah. That is going to actually officially lead us into World War II. Yeah. And for all all of you that has stuck with us, not only into World War II, but into next week's episode. Hell yeah. All right, guys, well, we will see you next week, and
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