Historically High - Adolf Hitler Part 2 - Seizing Power
Episode Date: September 27, 2023It's here folks, the epic finale to our episodes discussing Hitler's rise to the Chancellor of Germany and the beginnings of World War 2. Recently released from prison, with his political party outl...awed, and his ability to speak in public banned, how does Hitler find himself on a path directly to ultimate power in Germany. Deciding the whole "over throwing the government with a violet coup" thing isn't working. He attempts to navigate the waters of politics to attain his definitive goal, to become the Fuher of Germany through "Legal Means". Why are you still reading this, hit play. Support the show Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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We are in session and we are back.
And I hope you were with us from last week.
We got part two of Hitler.
I'm so tired.
It's a lot.
I'm not going to let of you guys.
It's a whole lot.
A lot of research, like we said before, a lot of boards were made, a lot of notes were done.
And I really could not do, couldn't even start to do any of this without my buddy, my co-host.
He's a softball champion.
He's got a golf game that I strive to get to.
And it is not good.
Sometimes he rhymes fast.
Sometimes he rhymes slow.
He is Professor Chris.
Salutation, everyone.
Goodentog, if anyone is listening over in Germany on this.
If you are, just to understand we're not talking about you when bad things get said about Germans.
Yeah, yeah, definitely not.
I'd love to go see Germany.
Yeah, exactly.
Look where we are.
I mean, we're not, I mean, we can throw stones at this a little bit more, but it's not like, you know, anyone's response.
for this right now.
Hitler, man, where did we last, where did we, on last week's episode of Adolf,
Hitler had been led out of jail after serving only 264 days out of a five-year sentence for treason.
And now that he's back, he's got, you know, Adolf's got a brand new bag.
He's going to try to go about this thing maneuvering through politics, but it's going to make it kind of difficult
because along with the release comes a couple conditions.
One of them being is that his precious Nazi party is now outlawed.
Another one being that he is not allowed to do public speaking.
Yeah.
So the two things that provided him, and from the court's perspective, this should have been it.
These are two things, if they're going to let him out early, they're taking away his two weapons.
The party that supports him and gives him some type of power, and then his ability to drive.
up support by not being able to do public speaking.
Yeah.
So, strap in.
Hopefully we can get this knocked out.
It's only going to be two.
I promise it's going to be two.
It's not going to be a long two, hopefully.
But yeah, let's get rolling.
See how he settles a new landscape.
All right.
So he's out.
He's about his plan essentially takes a hit when he first gets out because he's a dude
that thrives in chaos.
The only way that his party is able to gain power in what,
want to do air quotes legitimately is there has to be chaos occurring around him so much so
that it makes extremist ideas not even look good just looks so different from what's causing
all of the issues that people are like fuck it why not give this to try to see if it could fit we can't
get any worse so that's what he's aiming for he walks out into a world that has just absolutely
fucked up that plan too because we have a little something called the dawes act that was enacted
to sort of take the burden off of
the reparations that were paid. And Germany gets better. Basically, what the Dawes Act was,
it was a, I think it was a governmental, um, it was, uh, economic, like stimulus provided by
the United States to essentially help out with the hyperinflation that had been,
essentially since Hitler was put in prison, has been just beating up essentially the country.
And really, the only drawback to this was, um, back in episode one when you were talking about
how long the payments will go to a hotel until about 1984.
That was all part of the Dawes Act and kind of a following act that came after that.
But pushing that can down the road had allowed Germany to be able to start rebuilding and kind of start changing, kind of start going back in the right direction.
Everything was heading in the right direction.
Even more so, he came out.
And in the meantime, Germany had joined the League of Nations.
Which is a very big monkey wrench to a guy who just tried to take over and it failed.
And not only that, but so the League of Nation is essentially the Pre-Eague of Nation is essentially the Pre-Eanation.
precursor to the United Nations. Think of it as the UN being formed after World War II. It was just
formed during after World War I. And you have somebody that even though that this is supposed to,
you know, bring Germany into the international community and everything like that, help to
contribute, what it does for Hitler is, and all these people that are these nationalists, is they
see it as basically a giant betrayal, basically saying, now you're putting us into bed with the people
that have been making,
not only that say that they were the victors in the Great War,
when we still believe that we should have been the victors,
but you're basically crawling into bed and cozing up
with the people that have made our lives
what we feel like hell for the last few years.
At the same time, though, the greater reach
that he wanted to get from those people,
the middle class, the higher class,
they're back to kind of living their lives in a good way again.
So to really be able to reach them,
he's got to start changing these tax.
And as you had said earlier, he was banned from public speaking.
The Nazi party was banned.
January 4th, 1925, Hitler met with the Bavarian Prime Minister Heinrich Held.
And he promised.
He probably didn't get on his hands and knees, but he's like, man, look me in the eyes when I tell you this.
I'm going to use the Democratic system this time.
No more beer hall poaches for me.
No more screwing the pooch.
No more backroom deals.
I'm not going to hold anybody hostage anymore.
We're doing this legit.
I'm going 100% legitimate.
And I don't know if he had his fingers crossed or his toes crossed,
but he really wanted to try to get this across.
It must have worked because the ban on the Nazi party was lifted February 27th
after meeting January 4th.
His no public speaking ban did go on a little bit longer.
It went on another two years until 1927 before that was lifted.
But at the same time, he was able to sweet talk his party back into being a legitimate.
source.
Well, and it kind of later in the year two and 25,
MNConf hasn't even come out at this point yet either.
So he's not able to, you know,
it wasn't like he did it in prison,
he put it out while he was in prison,
so he was staying in the public eye.
It hasn't even come out at this point.
And kind of the thought process,
I'm wondering if when he went to essentially
the head of Bavaria,
what was the guy's name or what was his position?
Heinrich Hild, the prime minister of Bavaria.
When he went to the prime minister,
I wonder if the prime minister just kind of looked and said, you know, these guys aren't as big of a problem right now, but were I not to allow him to try to pursue through legitimate means?
The government's going to eat him up and spit him out.
Like he's never going to get elected because it's so extreme.
But the other hand, so if I let it die out the natural way, the party's just going to disband.
They're going to find out that they can't seek power this way.
They know they can't seek power through the putch or anything like that.
So the party's going to disband and I'm not going to have to worry about it.
this. And so I do you think that was almost his because he had no other reason he could
have just been like yeah, you guys are banned. So maybe he just didn't want any type of like
violent reprisals and everything because he had seen that they were willing to do that before.
I mean, it's possible. It's also possible that he was just yet another person who was like,
your ideas aren't the worst. That's, I know, yeah. There could have been sympathies towards that
to kind of, certain ideas that they were on board with. Yeah. And so that kind of makes it tough to
able to hold their feet to the fire because if you really feel sort of the same way that they
do and maybe not all the crazy things that he said weren't landing like it's i don't know i don't think
the one thing that i do know is hitler talking to him being like yeah i'm going to use the democratic
process i bet that guy's yeah you got you go right that's the thing too is we i'm trying to think
what the terminology we use but all this was was just a series of like not
checking him. Everyone was just like
okay. Like no one saw it as a threat because
in comparison as a whole it was a smaller movement.
Even though they had at this point they felt like they were weak and they were on the
way out because they didn't have their leadership. But Hitler was really running
things from inside of prison as much as he could. But on the outside
basically the Nazi party on the outside was being led by Ludendorf.
And at this point Ludendorf and Hitler can't stand each other.
No. Well part of that I'm sure is because Ludendorf didn't get arrested and put in jail
for the same shit that Hitler did.
And Hitler didn't follow through on and made Ludendorf essentially.
That's the whole point, too, is when the putch came out in national publications,
it was like known wily as the Ludendorf putch.
So like, or like as the Ludendorf Hitler push.
So Hitler didn't even get top billing on his own fucking push.
No.
But throughout the trial and the shit that he was saying about the putch, people were like,
okay, this was definitely Hitler's deal.
Like he, he, this was, he was a guy.
He made it into his deal.
Yeah.
And then you have one of the deputies, uh,
Gregor Strasser, you kind of mentioned him, basically keeping, you know, the Nazi party alive, trying to expand it as much as he could.
He, there were some differences and ideals between kind of the northern faction of the Nazi party and the southern faction down in Munich where like Hitler wasn't everything is they started to kind of differ in their ideals, but were still essentially representing the Nazi party in their own way.
Yeah, but Gregor, his brother Otto, Joe Scoblez that we were talking about before, they really,
felt like since they were sort of doing the legwork up in the north where it was almost more
important because they were growing it instead of just maintaining it and that's where berlin is
isn't it so maybe they think it's more of a meaningful movement it really could have been they
really butted heads on this because grigger really felt like he was kind of becoming the centerpiece
and just like we talked about with hitler not wanting to link up with other factions that were
other kind of extremist factions he didn't like that he didn't like somebody's
challenging his power. Well, here's the thing too
is Gerbils at this point too
was kind of on stressor's side and thinks it's a
good idea to basically boot Hitler out
thinking he's too soft and they wanted
to go and remove him. Part of
me thinks that like the whole thing with
Goebbels is he was just sucking
up to whoever was in, happened to been in
the most popular spot at that time.
Fairweather fan. And he was just
useful enough or had enough of a skill set
and propaganda that like
he was able to kind of move back and forth
and there wasn't like a you know
grievance against him or anything like that.
Or he was just so fucking slimy that he kind of
like, was like, no, no, no, I never said that.
That wasn't my idea. Deerfure or whatever that bullshit was.
He was Mac playing both sides of the fence
when they were trying to figure out the line of succession after Frank.
And what they also did while Hitler was in
is they were able to kind of make the Nazi party
a little more widely appealing.
I think they toned down some of the rhetoric
and everything that was more of the Hitler-centric rhetoric
and were able to kind of try to bring in more people.
but once Hitler came out and kind of reestablish his power base,
Strasser just falls back in line.
Well, for Hitler, one of these qualities that it's so tough to just give this guy credit for anything,
but he was such a gifted speaker that he would,
sort of like I said to you when we first started the studying,
he was so much like a goddamn comedian working out material.
He would go up in front of quick.
crowds and if he would get a big, loud, roaring cheer out of it, he'd be like, all right, we're
going to keep that in. He would start going into something else if those cheers started trailing
off or if people started to look at disinterested, be like, all right, cut that, we're not going to
do that. And he was able to go into these rooms where he could ramp up the anti-Semitism. He could
tone down the anti-Semitism. They did that even in the sense of like their advertising. So they
were saying that when they would go around and speak to, they were the, the national
socialist German workers party.
So they were supposed to be nationalists, socialists,
representing the German workers.
And what they would do is they would emphasize different portions of their plan or
ideology.
And so if they were speaking to the nationalist, when you would see signs, the N
and the national would be bigger.
If they were speaking to the workers, the worker part went on their advertisements
and stuff would be bigger.
If it was the socialist, all that kind of shit.
So they were doing like a psychological thing too.
and you know this is just one of those things where he's like a master mass manipulator so he's able to
essentially mold the crowd and like you were saying like his talent was in his he didn't write speeches
what he would go is he would have an idea of what he was going to talk to and as soon as he caught a
reaction and arise from the crowd he then focused on that he's like this is what this is the
where I pull this is the thread that I pull on this crowd and then he would go work the next
crowd and they wouldn't respond to that and he'd pull this other thread and they would really
respond to that so he was able to just essentially find exactly what would get him you know
the biggest reaction and kind of focus on that and just the way that he was able to spin stuff
to where everything was the fault of somebody else and and bring you know bring the extremist
ideology into almost like common conversation it was he was blending it so much that it was
like he would get you with
like 80% people would be cheering and then
he would pepper in like the extremist shit
and then like before you even
had a chance to think about that it was more
of the shit that you agreed with
they would be like do you guys want more money
yeah do you guys want more freedom
do you guys not like the Jews
do you guys not like being able to not make your house payments
yeah exactly
hey
you gotta give credit where credits do
the man knew what he was doing
And as far as that goes, the Nazi party, I think, was benefited by a lot of people within the organization.
Guys like Hoffman being able to take photos.
Guys like Eckhart being able to open up the door to print and being able to print a Nazi newspaper.
There were just people that were in these positions that were doing all sorts of shit that were making that popular.
But the main draw, the one that put asses in seats was always going to be the speaker.
Well, there was like a New Year's party.
I think it was going from 24 into 25.
And during it, like, he was there.
And I don't know if he had too much fucking sugar wine or whatever.
But he basically declared that he was going to turn Christ's words into deeds.
I don't know which words he was fucking specifying.
And he got like a new nickname called like the Redeemer, like within the party and everything.
So like it starts to really show you that this is becoming.
more less of a political move in.
And here's the other thing too.
I didn't realize this. The only reason that they had to put party at the beginning is at the
beginning, they had no intention of being a political party.
But in order to exist as an entity like that and not like an extremist or a terrorist group,
you had to pose as a political party.
Yeah.
So it had no political intention when it first started.
And this, when he gets out of prison, is the only time that the idea of politics even comes
into being.
It just so happens that this.
This is already a party that they can just simply shuffle over a little bit into the political arena.
Well, and this technique was used pretty effectively before this.
Throwing back to the first episode when we were talking about the invention of the SA,
did you catch how they registered their action group because they couldn't do it as an army?
They had to be flexible.
Yep.
They had to register themselves as a gymnastics club.
in order to
Like no one checked on that
Yeah
Like I don't know if you're going around in checking
But you figure you should probably at one point
There should be like an inspector
Go find a fucking pommel horse
Do something
There should be like you know
A house has to be inspected
They're like we're registering as a men's gymnastic team
At what point just like you know
Child Social Services type thing
You show for a surprise visit
And if you don't see these guys
Working on a set of rings
Or fucking uneven bars are doing something
And they're just sitting in a beer hall or something
talking about how they fucking hate the Jews,
maybe be like,
hmm, I don't think this is a gymnastics group.
Yeah, if they're outside ripping Sigs,
they're probably not in doing a floor routine.
We're the storm troopers,
because we just move into these gymnastics competitions
like a storm.
But yeah, that's that same sort of idea
where they had to give themselves a label
where they tried to be a movement by force.
They had to be a party by Democratic standards
because they had to kind of get that in their heads.
And just after that New Year's
that you were talking about when he became the Redeemer,
he started believing in himself so much
that when he would go out and give speeches,
he would give speeches as if he already was the leader of the country.
He would be out there saying shit,
like, yeah, you know, as the leader of this movement,
or I was forechosen by the Lord for this,
like just getting really into that figurehead
of what was going on, mood mentality.
It was like he was trying to speak it into existence almost.
Well, and when he was first,
allowed to do when the ban of, you know, the gag order from public speaking was lifted,
he was only able to start speaking in like one area.
Yeah.
I think it was just in Bavaria.
Saxony.
So Saxony was the first to lift the ban for public speaking and then Bavaria after that.
Oh, okay.
So he could only speak in those two places.
But yeah, I mean,
this is where you can see how, you know, he's building his base.
He's still doing all of this shit.
and secret, you know, the party isn't disbanded.
The party is still essentially banned technically.
And then when is the actual party band lifted?
That was February 27th, right?
Of 25, though.
Okay.
So it had been lifted for a while and they were just trying to rebuild.
Gotcha.
And that's because they were thinking they were going to go as a legitimate political party at that point.
Yeah.
And so kind of with things against a new party trying to take power.
with things going well, it was really an uphill battle before the day that Hitler just, his wet dream came true.
And his wet dream, unfortunately, is the issues that millions of people had all over the world.
But Black Thursday, August 24th, 1929, the stock market crash happens.
The Dawes Act, the second act that I'm forgetting the name of, the company did.
The Doors Act?
Because you said DAWS before.
Yeah, DAWS.
The first one was the Dawes, right?
Or was the Doors Act the first one?
I think the first one, I 99% sure was the Dawes Act.
But the second act that happened, both of these two things that had just completely saved their asses and brought it back, all of that money was gone.
Because as soon as the stock market crash happened.
There's no more aid.
Yeah.
There's no more aid to come in.
So you immediately, not to mention that, we're talking 1920, what is it?
1929, world commerce and world trade was already a thing.
It was happening in a much faster rate.
So there was money that was tied up overseas.
There were stock markets where you could trade in Berlin American stocks.
It wasn't isolated.
Yeah.
Finance was worldwide.
Finance wasn't just isolated within just certain countries.
It could be in some places.
But when you had international trade and there was shipping and all that kind of stuff, like there was at this time, yeah, you had money tied up where the,
the effects of the stock market crash in America.
We only hear about what happened in America because we're here and this is where we learn
about the stuff, but it had effects worldwide.
I think we talked about that a couple episodes ago and I'm excited to do a Great Depression episode.
Kind of jumping back real quick before the, and I know you want to kind of group this in together
too, but just to kind of paint a picture also about, you know, we don't, Hitler doesn't
need any help being fucking pointed out as a psychopath, but let's go ahead and just make sure we know
how much of a creep this guy is too.
So during the summer of 1926, um,
Um, Hitler is visiting a place in Bavaria called, um, Berchus Garden.
And it's in the Oberst Salzburg.
So it's essentially in the, the Bavarian Alps.
So he's 37.
And while he's vacationing here, he's running a house, um, and I want to, I'm trying to remember what he calls it.
It is called.
The Bergdorf.
Yes, Bergdorf.
Yep.
It's called the Bergdorf.
He rents it and, um, it's in the Oberstelsberg.
He moves his sister in, uh, eventually and everything.
Half sister.
His half sister.
and eventually, but while he's renting it, this is like his second or third summer here back in
26. He meets a girl named Mitzi, and she is 16, and he is 37, by the way. He takes a shine to
this girl, and during, you know, goes around with her, goes to dinner with her while he's here
and everything, but then at one point says, like, she says they were out walking and he pushed her
up against a tree and kissed her passionately, and she had never wanted anybody more or anything like that.
and basically like her sister I think is a little bit older than her
and is like get away from this guy like he introduces himself not even as Hitler
but he uses the alias Mr. Wolf which is something that he'll use essentially not only
Mr. Wolf but like he goes by the wolf that's like his thing
I wonder about that what do you think that is that makes him want to be like
an apex predator
What do you think it is about wolf?
Do you think it's just like a...
Yeah, it's some type of just like...
You don't think there's symbolism behind it?
No, no, I think there is because, you know, it's a powerful animal and everything like that.
There's an alpha within a wolf pack.
He's, you know, comparing other Germans to essentially a pack.
You know, wolves are essentially supposed to be a strong animal.
One of his bunkers, the one that he designs on the eastern front to oversee the Russian thing is called the wolf slayer.
And it's fucking...
That's bonkers in itself.
But, yeah, I think it's just something it's supposed to...
to be powerful, somewhat frightening.
But yeah, so he's fooling around on vacation with this 16-year-old.
You mentioned how old he was, right?
37.
Yep.
So, and this is going to be a pattern.
This isn't just an isolated incident.
This will be a pattern going forward for Hitler's life about, he's, it's a Wooderson thing.
You know what I'd like about these German girls or whatever?
I keep getting older.
They stay the same age.
Well, the other thing, too, is the wolf thing kind of went along with that.
it's almost weird that like he was a predator in a sense because he was going after 16 and 17 year old called himself the wolf like is that a it's maybe not well thought of the way he actually thought about that um but yeah so getting back to the stock market crash again this party thrives in chaos and it needs chaos to survive and to grow yeah before we talk about that uh mincy was so enthralled by him that they ended up hooking up later and she was married yeah
Um, she was trying to talk him into leaving, uh, a future woman in his life, Ava Brown that
we'll talk about at length, probably. Um, he said that he was willing to leave her. She said,
she wanted marriage to Adolf. Adolf said, no, she went home and used a piece of, I think it was,
um, clothesline. Tied it around a doorknob using it and tried to hang herself because she couldn't
have Adolf. Luckily, she was found. She didn't die. But that was just kind of the hold that he had on
these younger women somehow, that he was able to get them to just...
It's fanaticism. Yeah, dude, it's something that I just don't... And it would be one thing if that was
like an isolated incident. We'll talk about the other incidences. There were four more times. Yeah.
Here's the thing too, crazy. I was going to wait till later to get this. So once the Nazis
actually took power, words that had negative connotations, they actually changed the German
meaning of those words. So fanatic, instead of being a negative fanaticism and fanatic became
something that was like the highest compliment that you could call like a Nazi. So just crazy
shit like that. So we'll go back a little bit. Yeah, back to the stock market crash. So
essentially it just destroys the recovering German economy. And the Nazi party just jumps at
the chance to help out the lower middle classes. They go and hand out food.
help out with bread lines, all this kind of stuff that are ingratiating themselves with the public is the party of the people.
And in May 1928 to September 1930, they start actually putting themselves up for election in like local politics and everything.
And just massive numbers.
And they're able to essentially during, it was the first time that they really entered in the elections, right?
The first time they really won any sort of measurable seats was 1928 in May.
They garnered 2% of the vote, and that got them, I believe it, was like 13 seats.
And they were pretty stoked about that.
So it looks like 12 members out of 491.
And what's called the Reichstag.
The Reichstag is essentially Parliament.
It's their House of Representatives.
It's their Congress.
And so at that point, you had like Social Democrats, which were like center left,
had like a 30% vote share
and that actually like increased
but you have this new
extremist wing
that's already got 2.6%
really in one of like their first or second
cracks trying to get in there. They got like
800,000 votes out of a possible 31 million
votes.
And one of the things too that as they're
starting to go ahead and put themselves up
for legitimate office is
they create what's called the
Stoffen
Shushthofen.
The Shush.
They create the SS. And the SS is created essentially as you can already kind of call the essay like a paramilitary wing. It's essentially the elite paramilitary wing that's created as like the personal body bodyguards of Hitler. And you have a guy come in to the picture that starts out just kind of as a lower tier SS officer name. And he's going to be very big within essentially the Nazi party later on called Heinrich Himmler. So much alliteration in the
German namings.
A lot of Heinrich.
A lot of Heinrich.
Hoffmann's,
Hofstanger, just all that,
a lot of H's too.
So at this point, too,
there is a little bit of
kind of like dissension.
There's always seems to be a little bit of
infighting within like the Nazi party
and it always seems to be
you know, in this scenario
it's Strasser. He kind of comes
into the picture and he's kind of budding heads
with Hitler a little bit and
Well, this is, I think, that north-south divide again.
Yeah, exactly.
Rearing its ugly head.
They have ideas about how they should go about things and maybe differences in ideology.
So they're each trying to push those as the dominant platform for the Nazi party.
And so Hitler ends up meeting with Strasser at some point.
They come to do an agreement.
And then after that, I think Strasser ends up getting in a car accident or something.
And so he's kind of out of commission for six months.
And that's when I think Hitler just kind of comes in and shores up his power base and reestablishes himself.
finally being out of like jail and everything like that as the the true dictator to the fear of the Nazi party.
Yeah. And all, I mean, all that work that they were doing on middle class families is breadlines and everything else that you were talking about.
It paid such big dividends because you go from May 28th getting, or May in 1928 getting 2.6% of the vote.
September 1930 gets 18.3% of the vote.
They jumped all the way up to a
107 seats in the Reichstag.
They had become basically the second
largest party in parliament as far as
like a sole party. Because a lot
of the ways that these parties
would work to reach the
50% threshold as they would have to create
coalitions with other groups
that are close. Across the aisle, except instead of an
aisle, you had essentially like an
octagon. It divided up and you had
different aisles and different factions and everything.
So what really
led to that increase of them being able to jump up like that. So like you said, you had them helping
out with their recovery. It was like a perception of helping out. They really didn't have any power,
but they were making these promises. And they were always like vague promises and everything like
that, but they just sounded good. It was lip service. It was shit like Hitler would go out and he'd be like,
we're going to fix the trade unions. He doesn't say how he's going to fix him. He doesn't say who's going
to benefit. He just puts certain subjects into certain things and says that they're going to do anything.
He promises everything with promising nothing at the same time.
Exactly.
You have German unemployment at this point that's up to like 40%.
During like 29 to 32, the industrial production falls by 50% in Germany.
So they're just getting hammered.
They're losing money, jobs, all that kind of stuff.
He tones down the anti-Semitism to kind of appear more professional and conservative.
Straser eventually is brought back into the party.
And between like 29 and 32, the party members of this are,
about it, 130,000 plus.
And that's just, that's just members.
That's not people that, like, if you're
really thinking about it, when you hear that, they're like, well, that's still
only 130,000. How are they getting so many votes?
Those are just people that are willing
to actually put pen to paper
to become members of this party.
To register, yeah. To register. And that are
accepted, because at this point, too,
there's qualifications to get into this
party. You have to meet certain physical requirements.
You have to meet a certain lineage type
requirement. They're just not accepting anybody.
They want a certain type of person.
White guy.
Exactly.
And then you have people that are kind of maybe on the fence, like, hey, all vote for those guys, but I'm not going to be like a card carrying party member.
So that's where they're able to kind of build up more of a following as well.
This, they create like a youth outreach program, which is going to be called the Hitler Youth.
Yeah.
They establish a base in Munich called the Brownhouse or Brownhaus, the Braunhaus.
And this basically serves as essentially, you know, Hitler's office.
and kind of where they're making all their plans from.
They do this in Munich because they're still not,
you know, they're still building their power base.
They're still in a more nationalist-centric place
and not really ready to move to Berlin
where their power base is going to be a little bit weakened.
Weird thing that I found, speaking of the Brown House,
did you know that the only property that Hitler ever actually owned
was the house in the Berkhoff?
Yeah.
Everything else was just rented.
You would think that somebody that was...
Or owned by the Nazi party.
Yeah.
But like not...
Yeah, his only residence was the Berghoff.
You're the leader of Germany.
You're the leader of the Nazi party,
and you only have one piece of land.
He never needed to own, like, the royal,
I don't even what they call it, the chancellery.
Yeah, I mean, I guess if you own the entire country,
you just kind of own everything.
Yeah, you're not concerned with what you're the fucking ownership
and the mortgage papers, fuck I could say.
I just thought that it was odd,
that that was like the one thing that he had to his name.
While he's set up shack at the Brownhouse,
this is when he starts making everybody refer to him as the furor.
And they would all greet people in the...
This is where we get Heil Hitler from.
It became essentially just like a greeting.
What essentially starts out is something that they say as like a pledge of allegiance to each other
will eventually become almost like a litmus test for your loyalty.
So like when the Gestapo and the SS are kind of running security all over Germany,
if someone says, Heil Hitler and you don't hear that response back from somebody,
your eyes are immediately on you for treason or dissension.
So it almost becomes like a fucking test.
They said the other test of your Nazidum was the salute that you would do
or you'd pull your hand to your chest and fire it out like you're half confident
and a question you're about to answer.
When I was, okay, so I get that it's the, whenever anyone like,
it's the arm at like 45 degrees pointed out in front of you,
but all of the videos, it's the laziest fucking videos have it up.
It looks like he's just holding his hand up, like, doing the prom wave, except holding it straight, or it's, like, tilted back.
And there's not, like, he wouldn't even do it.
He was so physically awkward that he couldn't even figure out how to get it done right.
Like, the, you know, it's supposed to be the intention of pointing the arm out and being like, Heil Hitler and all that kind of shit.
But at the same time, like, his, if it had to have a voice to be like, hey, Hitler.
Yeah.
Like that was very soft.
Yeah, that's what he was a limp-risted man.
He probably fucking had to do it so much.
He's just like, I can only do this now.
The fucking rotator cuff is destroyed.
This is where we get the real dictator shit,
because much like Kim Jong-un shoots
18 holes in one when he plays
18 holes.
Hitler was supposed to be the most
ardent Nazi because he could do
the salute for longer than anybody else.
Like seven hours. Yeah.
It was a very long period of time.
And that was how you were supposed to show your devotion
to the party. What happened? They were in the fucking
Brownhouse and they came and everyone was chatting. They were like,
they're like, Adolf's gone. He's on six and a half
hours. I don't know how much longer
he can stand. He's just sweating
with a water bottle, just trying to salute
away. But like, in his
personal life, apparently he was
extremely unprofessional. He was late
for everything. He slept in, like,
way in. He wasn't like... He was
Maryland Monroe. He wasn't concerned
about, like, he was concerned about as a parent
and everything like that.
But, like, socially,
just not like a professional person or anything.
You heard about the
potential meeting between
him and Churchill at dinner?
Yeah, and he like kept him, like he slept through it or like fucking the guy had to go wake him up and then he wasn't even dressed.
Yeah, he didn't have his hair done. He looked all fat.
He didn't even go, right? Yeah, he didn't even go. It was the one time that he had a chance to meet Churchill before the rubber hit the road and he showed him up. Just a real dickhead.
At the same time, there was this guy. He was a German like law student or lawyer. He named was Horst Vessel.
And there was a situation where he was living in.
somewhere in Germany.
I don't know if it was Munich or not,
but his landlady,
apparently he'd been laid on some payments,
and his landlady had hired
these basically communist enforcers
to try to, like, scare him out or force him out.
And one thing led to another during this altercation,
and he shot by these communists.
And he's not killed right away,
but he's mortally wounded.
In the time it takes for him to actually die in the hospital,
Gerbils actually fucking seize this
and develops essentially a story around this
that this is the pride of the German future,
that this is a prime example of like,
of youth taken too soon by the communist,
and basically takes like an old German like him
or like folk song
and designs this song to that beat
about like horse vessel and like the youth of Germany and all this.
And it's called like the Raise the Flag Song
and basically comes like becomes like the fucking anthem.
Yeah.
for the fucking Nazi party.
You also, like you're saying,
you get the Nazi salute that's invented.
There's fucking, like, at this point, too,
during this three years,
there's like 6,000 Nazi meetings
throughout the fucking country.
He's making his way in.
And really, I think,
do you have anything else before the presidency?
Yeah, so...
Okay.
I was mentioned it before,
but at this point,
they really start to push this.
Now that, like,
there's an economic collapse again
because it recovered before
due to the Dawes Act and everything like that
they really lean into essentially now that
see we've told you there might have been a little recovery
but this current regime the way things are going right now
it's not going to change we can't make small changes
and it changes and expect anything to work out we need
large extreme changes and he keeps pushing this
another huge thing to help them the fucking Kaiser
you still have Kaiser Wilhelm who's no longer in power of course
because they lost World War I.
He's like outside the country too.
Yeah, he's in exile somewhere.
But someplace that's accessible.
Yeah.
What ends up happening is Kaiser Wilhelm's son pledges his allegiance to the Nazi party.
So now you have these people that we're still wanting the monarchy to be reestablished and everything that's like, oh shit.
Like his son is now like putting in his like throwing in his law with the Nazis.
It leads just that name recognition.
Like we have Wilhelm, you know, the Kaiser's son with us and everything.
That all contributes essentially.
to them, like you were saying, September 14, 1930.
6.4 million votes, 18% of the total, 107 seats.
The second biggest party now in the Reichstag.
It's a rise that's really kind of tough to understand,
but the amount of work that they were putting into it,
and like you said earlier, being on the cutting edge
of all of the different forms of media that you can get out to people,
you see why that's such a big driver today,
because even back then,
when your newest form of media
might have been TV to be able to get that shit rolling,
to be able to go out there
to do basically like
countrywide tours delivering these speeches
every single day, day in and day out.
It yielded from 2.6% of the vote to 18.3
just doing that work.
In the course of like three years.
Yeah, it's just absolutely incredible.
The first date that the new Reichstag
went into session or whatever they call it,
the fucking essay went out and went on like a like damaging like jewish shops and all stuff they were disguised
but like that was their fucking celebration for like the entry into like the riteshag they were also
told that they weren't allowed to wear their nazi dress into the ryshtag to do the votes or
to do anything like that and of course all of them showed up in their nazi uniforms and i believe
they did start out during roll call instead of just saying
They would say here and then.
Hile.
Yeah, Hile.
And they were told, you know, to tone it down to the point where they could be contributing members,
because what they were basically trying to do, the Reichstag kind of operated kind of like Congress,
but in different ways.
You had people that could be assigned to like governorships from the Reichstag.
You had a position that was like the Speaker of the House, the President of the Reichstag.
So you had political appointments that could be made.
And so in order for them not to just be these token members of the Reichstag with only these
like smaller powers, they were basically trying to also get into these positions of
governorship to make themselves be candidates for it. So at this point, the SA membership is up to
a fucking million. That's in the SA membership. There's only 100,000 Germans in the army.
So at this point, just this like personal militia, this paramilitary group outnumbers the military
10 to 1.
Not to mention
the actual military
doesn't have any sort
of supremacy in the air
or in the waters
or anything like that.
You don't have that either
but that's the whole point.
Yeah,
it's just ground to ground.
Like you can't have a plane
drop a bomb on a bunch of S.A.
guys because you don't have planes
and you don't have bombs.
So our good buddy Rom
apparently he had fled the country
and was over in South America
helping train like military troops
and stuff like that.
They end up bringing him back in.
He and
crazily enough, ROM
is not only gay, but he's
openly gay. And
this seems to just fly in the face of
essentially everything that the Nazi party
seems to stand for. It's one of those
24 tenants or whatever you were talking about
that the party was set on. So
he ends up coming back in to kind of
help oversee the essay and everything.
And I think Gerbils
has Himmler start to build like a
dossier on Rom for
like blackmail and basically
I think he, I'm pretty sure this is something
and he probably always did,
was Goebbels was just trying to get dirt on everybody
to be able to turn Hitler or be able to sell out
and he wanted at a given time.
Well, and I think Himmler didn't like Rom because it was almost like he was...
The SA was like the SS's little brother.
So Himmler probably wasn't a big fan of the leader of the essay.
The guy that he gets to kind of like start spying and build the dossier on ROM
is a guy named Reinhardt Hydric.
And this dude is going to be a major player coming
when we actually do more of like the Holocaust.
cost episode and everything like that.
He ends up being like one of the chief architects of the final solution.
So these guys are in it early on.
Yeah.
And that's the other thing I always kind of wondered.
Like when you're looking at, you know, just about the World War II aspect once the war started,
you have all these people in positions of power.
And you're like, how did he like find these people that were so like,
so fucking disgustingly like, minded like him?
He had known them.
They were there from like the get-go or they came in at different times and they were there
from like the building of it.
Yeah, and they all had dirt on their hands by the time they were in these major positions of power during World War II.
Well, and at, you know, sometime during this after he's kind of, you know, they get some people in a party, he ends up what we kind of referred to either as he's bought the Berghoff.
He ends up buying it, moving his sister in and, or his half sister, and she has.
Angela.
Huh?
Angela.
Angela.
Well, she has a daughter.
and her name is, is it Gilly?
Gilly Robble.
Gilly Robble.
And she is 20 years old.
And she just loves hanging out with Uncle Adolf.
I thought the first time they had met she was 16.
The first time they had met.
She was 16.
But when they actually move in and everything, she's 20.
Oh, okay.
That's it.
I don't know what this information.
Who knows if this information is coming from?
Not that information.
Just like the fact that he,
He had seen her.
He'd kind of laid eyes on her and played that long game between 16 to 20 or it's like,
I need to get this chick in my house.
A, because I've taken a liking to her.
But B, because I've taken a liking to her and she is my niece, I have to try to keep this under wraps.
Even he was smart enough to realize that him fucking a family member was probably going to look bad.
Yeah.
And so, I mean, they do a lot of stuff together.
They're never seen having a romantic relationship, but they hang out enough to.
together with a fucking, we'll just say between 16 and 20 year old girl and a guy who's in his
40s, probably at this point.
Yeah.
And yeah, it doesn't fucking, here's the thing that makes me suspect that it's not just a normal
uncle-niece relationship is around the time, you know, after the election, everything like that,
while they're still building up their power base, they got some seats, 107 seats.
He meets through Heinrich Hoffman, his photographer.
He goes down to visit her or him at his shop or whatever it is, and he sees a young,
woman, Miss Ava Brown.
He catches her stems
in her ass first.
She's getting up on a ladder, putting some stuff away, and he's like,
oh, this is Mr. Wolf.
What is that?
Yeah, exactly. And he's like, oh, dear,
that's our good little fra line. You know,
Ava, have you met, you know, Mr. Wolf?
And they do a fucking introduction.
Well, he starts hanging out with Ava,
and apparently, because the relationship is so
normal between Gellie and Adolf,
Gellie turns around and fucking kills herself
with Adolf's pistol, when she's 23 years.
old.
So.
I think that's pretty telling of what the fucking relationship entailed.
Yeah.
Adolf, well, this is where things get kind of really pear-shaped is Adolf is off doing his
thing.
He's off doing his speaking tour.
He's out there talking to the people.
Gellie in his home was going through his stuff and found a note in one of his jacket
pockets.
There was a note asking Ava to go to the theater with him.
And she was so distraught over it.
that she tore through his things and found his pistol.
Mr. Hoffman, would you pass the note to run this Brun?
Yeah.
To see if she would go out on the date.
And that's part of that social awkwardness, I think.
Like, why would you be writing a 16-year-old girl a note?
Dude, just ask her, you're old enough.
It's cool.
Oh, yeah, Ava is like 16 at this point.
Yeah, she's 16 or 17.
I feel like we've said 16 a lot for old girls that I can't remember if we described.
Just assume that if we're talking about a young girl, she's like around the age of 16.
Yep.
If not 16, exactly.
So, yeah, she steals his pistol, runs into a room, jams the,
door shut, the help in the house is knocking on the door like, hey, hey, what are you doing?
What do you got going on? Apparently, they never hear a gunshot.
Yeah, they hear like something drop and it sounds like a book hits the ground or some shit.
And then next day they show up. She still hasn't left the room. They forced their way in with,
not with the police or anybody logically that you would think, but I think it was like Himmler
or somebody who was actually over there too that forces their way in. She had shot herself in the
chest. There's debate. There was some fingers pointed that it could have been.
been Hitler that did it. There was some fingers pointed
that it could have been somebody in the SS that did
it just to try to
to pull the... Yeah. Try to
tie it up like you say and
kind of clear the way for Ava, probably
because Ava would be somebody that was
more digestible than his niece
to the public. But yeah,
we have an attempt
for Mitzie to kill herself and
now we have one under the belt
just because they were so infatuated
with this man, her uncle.
it's just absolutely incredible to me
that he had that kind of a draw
and that he was that much a weirdo
also something that we forgot to mention
from Lansberg Prison
was he
this was only found
I don't know how it wasn't mentioned
and maybe it wasn't because they didn't do the physical
like they didn't release the physicals for the army
but when they were going through Lansberg
and he was getting his physical to go into prison
they found out that he had an
descended testicle. One testicle confirmed.
Yep. So officially confirmed. He had both of them. I'm just going to throw this out from last
episode. A lot of people in the world with undescended testicles. No one else has done this.
Yep. Yeah. Still still for that same pattern. I don't want anybody listening who may have an
undescended testicle to really feel like this is a shot at you. This isn't your spokesman.
We know that this isn't the, not the same guy. For people with your condition.
I will say, though, anybody that does bravo to you, because he,
I don't think took it very well.
He would like refuse to be seen in public, not dressed to the nines.
Like the most that anybody said they ever saw was his knees because of his fucking leader hosen.
Did you see the fucking picture?
It was like someone trying to look tough.
So you have it from like, you know, Hitler from the waist up.
And he's got his brown shirt or it might have been a black one tucked in.
He's got the fucking leather strap across his chest.
He's trying to armband on.
And then it like pans out.
and he's fucking wearing Leaderhosen, the shirts,
the shorts that go down, like the brown ones,
they go down above his knees.
Then you just see his kneecaps and then the fucking, like, tall white socks.
I'm just like, that's the most unthreatening fucking uniform
like I've ever seen in my life.
It looked like a fucking Halloween person trying to fucking hit.
Yes, it was fucking ridiculous.
Yeah, the one nutted man that may have not had enough self-confidence,
that could have been a driver of the fact that he had one testicle.
He was definitely the kid that did P.E.
and then just didn't shower after class.
Like, just a very weird dude when it came to that.
Maybe it's because he only had one nut.
So something that might not be common knowledge.
So there's a couple different chants.
There's the greeting, the Heil Hitler, the sign-off.
And then there's the Zieg Heil.
And Zieg Heil, do you know where that came from?
This is your put-shey guy.
Because you went to Harvard, the chant is Harvard.
Oh, that's right.
So he used that
Zieg Heil
And was fucking
And used the Harvard chant
To fucking come up with that
So fucking sorry Harvard
That's an L
Harvard
Sorry you don't take many of them
But that's definitely an L
We get some other
Just weirdly shocking things
That I don't know
Why they're not more common knowledge
Because there's a lot of companies
That have ties back to this
But you get Hugo Boss
Designs the Nazi
SS uniforms, the fucking jackboots, the black, the skull, the deathhead emblem and all that kind of stuff, the fucking SS logo.
You get fucking Hugo Boss is who fucking designs these.
I used to wear fucking Hugo Boss flown a long time ago, and now I'm having weird conflicting feelings about that shit.
And he's still designing, like, I'm trying to remember the last time, you know, where like people are going to an award show or like Oscars.
Like, who are you wearing?
I'm trying to remember in my head if I've ever heard any of these motherfuckers saying I'm wearing Hugo
boss because I know it's happened.
Well, and you have to think, too, when the Olympics roll around and we have like polo that does ours,
you think anybody in Germany's ever like Hugo boss?
And they're like, what the fuck did you just say?
No, no, Hugo.
It's still in national.
Yeah, it's still international.
It's the thing.
And part of that that you're talking about, the reason that Hugo designed those uniforms that he did
specifically for Hitler was for some reason he felt that the chancellery was, you
just a little bit too far outside of his realm.
But the presidency wasn't.
And the presidency at the time was held by, I think,
as there was Paul von Hindenberg.
Is that right?
Yeah, so, oh, Carl.
Carl.
Carl, Van Hindenberg.
Of course, Carl, the K.
Yep, he had been elected in February of 1925.
Thank you for making me go back to that because I forgot.
So, yeah, so the guy that's been elected as the president of the Weimar Republic is
Carl von Hindenberg.
And von Hindenberg.
is, I would say he's a lax guy.
He doesn't really seem like a,
he's an older gentleman.
1932 sees him come up for the president.
I assume the Hindenburg is named after Carl von Hindenberg.
That was going to be my question to you.
Yeah, we'll just go with you.
It's too close.
Yeah.
Okay.
So yeah, the man had a blimp named after him
that exploded.
Not the intention.
I don't think.
What's going to happen here?
But his number comes up for,
re, I don't know.
They seem to have a lot of elections.
There's certain things that cause elections, then they have ones that are scheduled.
It's very weird.
Yeah, so what happens is there is an article written in the Weimar Republic's Constitution,
and we'll talk about it a little later.
I want to say it's Article 48, but I'm not 100% sure.
When Article 48 is invoked, it actually takes the power away from the parliament
and gives sole power in emergency situations to the president.
Chancellor.
The chancellor.
Yes, thank you.
The structure real quick.
You have a president.
Yep.
You have a chancellor.
Yep.
You then have the people in the Reichstadt and you have different positions within that.
The chancellor is usually chosen by the party in power in majority of the Reichstag.
But the president has the authority to remove the chancellor at any time.
So the chancellor is still behoven to the president, but the chancellor is in charge of the Reichstag.
And the running of the day to day and everything like that.
Yeah.
It's almost a situation where the president is the highest rank,
but it's almost like the chancellor is the stronger of the two.
Yes, it's like the president is only job is to watch the chancellor.
And the chancellor is supposed to do everything else.
So it's like it's in an observatory position with the power to remove that person.
Yeah, and it just becomes a situation where whenever that happens,
in order to come back into session, they have to have just basically because,
him stripping the power away from the parliament
basically calls their jobs
into question where when they go back
into parliamentary sessions they have
to have elections
for basically
like the people saying we want these people
in power in the new legislative
session. So it's like
our elections but they can be spurred any time
as this article goes along.
Gotcha. Okay. So that's why they're having, that's why
we have elections that are happening
like every year, every two years.
The presidency is
I believe it's six years, maybe seven years.
And the chancellor is in an appointed position.
So it can change literally at any time.
Or it can go on forever, which it ends up happening.
But Von Hindenberg is coming up in 1932 on his next election.
And they said that at the fulfillment of his, if he wins again, his fulfillment date, he'll be 92 years old.
So he is older than dirt.
He's seen all this shit.
Yeah.
Like, so what's 92 like in 1930?
It can be good.
Or 1932.
Like the fact that you made it to 92,
you got to be just like ravaged as fuck.
Yeah, dude, you got to be really, really tired.
So Hitler, for some reason,
has never really thought about this presidency thing.
Von Hindenberg is on the right.
He is...
So the reason that Hitler also can't go
for the chancellor position at this point
is because they are the second biggest party.
You have to be able to qualify for it.
I think you have to be part of the largest party.
You have to be eligible.
To be eligible to run for the chancellor or to be elected to the chancellor or picked or whatever.
Yeah.
So he gets this idea, hey, maybe I go president first, then I can maybe work my way into that chancellorship.
One big thing stands in his way, though.
You have to be a citizen of the country that you're running for president in, and he is not a German citizen.
He shouldn't even be the leader of the political party at this point because he's not a citizen.
and it's a German political party.
And at this point, he renounced his Austrian citizenship in 1925.
So he's been without citizenship for seven years.
In order to tie up that loose in, February 25th, 1932, Hitler's appointed as the administrator of the state's delegation to the Reichstad in Berlin.
Excuse me.
So the little section that he was appointed to since he became a member of that area, he was given citizenship.
in that area so then he could take this position.
Okay.
So that's how he gets his German citizenship.
They're just opening doors and finding excuses to let him do this shit.
And I know that it's like he has the single party, the Nazi party doesn't have.
They're the second largest.
There's other nationalist parties.
They may be smaller.
Like when they first started down, they only had like, what, 12 seats?
You have these other smaller nationalist parties that can be in there as well.
And just for the strength in numbers, if they need to get something done and it matches 50% of what
the other nationalist party wants,
they're going to try to get that push through.
So they'll team up and, like you said,
make coalitions to create larger the majority parties.
Well,
being such a big party at this point,
too,
Hitler is okay with working with other coalitions,
really,
because,
or with other places to make coalitions
with other radical groups.
Until he can gain,
because he can't gain that power himself.
So he's taking what he can get.
Well,
and he knows that there's nobody in those smaller parties
that's going to be able to challenge him at all.
Yes.
He's still King Dick.
He's king of the mountain.
in the second largest party.
So yeah, he decides to run for presidency or run for the presidency.
And it's very sort of odd some of the things just with what they call themselves the people's national.
National socialist German Workers Party.
Yeah, you would think something called the Workers Party, you would be really focused on workers' rights.
He goes and meets with these German industrialists about a few other things not really pertaining to the presidency.
And towards the end of the meeting, as he's talking with them, he just kind of throws it out there.
He's like, so if I were to run for president, would I have your support?
And they're like, uh, we like von Hindenberg.
You and von Hindenberger technically from the same side of the aisle.
You're just a little bit more extreme than he is.
We got some good shit going with him.
I think we would probably be.
It doesn't benefit enough, us enough.
It's not like he's from the opposing party to where they're fighting against his policies.
They're like, he's already doing a lot for us.
We're used to this.
It's a known quantity.
and frankly you're probably still a little bit crazy for us.
But you have companies that are like fucking Bosch.
Deutsche Bank.
Deutsche Bank.
Siemens.
The most thing I know them for is they're on the front of some soccer jersey.
Isn't it spelled S-I-E-M-E-N?
Maybe that's it.
Yeah.
I didn't want to go S-E-M-E-N on the board.
I see where you were trying to avoid that.
I took a different stroke at it.
but these people of all these major industries,
these companies that are still around today,
he goes, well, what if we were able to maybe work on the trade laws
or maybe just go ahead and abolish the,
not the trade laws, the employees.
Unions.
Yeah, employee unions.
Trade unions.
And everyone's like, oh, shit, if you destroy the trade unions,
then we can start giving people a shitload less money
and nothing's going to go wrong.
It's all of our benefit.
Yeah.
So he gets these major industrial corporations
to sign on to the
on the quiet.
Yeah, well, yeah.
But they're,
they're going to start
giving them money.
He's going to have
that political power on them.
These companies that are still
around today,
I can't,
we cannot stress enough
how many companies
were involved with Hitler
that just,
it gets swept under the rug.
But along with that,
all the shit that you were talking about,
all the mass marketing campaigns,
everything that's going on,
the shit that they're pulling off
on this whole entire,
just whirlwind
tour of a
campaign. Oh,
Hitler had met von Hindenberg
at another time and
they were kind of having a meeting about maybe
Hitler's political aspirations
and von Hindenberg just
completely shut him down and that was
when he called him the corporal. He also told
him to his face that the highest achieving
rank that he would ever achieve
in the, or the highest rank that he would ever achieve
in the government would be the leader
of the post office. Oh, that's right.
Postmaster General or something shit like, yeah, whatever.
Like the biggest slap in the face ever.
So this gives Hitler an act to grind.
It was a personal vend that at that way.
A lot of the things that they were doing on the streets,
they would actually record albums of Hitler's speeches.
They would hand them out to people for free.
And then back in the day, you've heard of the baseball cards,
the T206s, the ones that they used to put in tobacco.
Yes.
In order to give it structure.
But they were like collectible playing cards.
To get kids to actually, too.
Well, yeah, maybe that.
Yeah.
Maybe just like another hobby.
Yeah, gives the packets rigid.
It couldn't just be a fucking piece of cardboard back there.
They didn't bubble gun, too.
Okay, okay.
But they would basically have like Nazi trading cards.
And on these albums that they were giving out for free to the people, it would be these boards where you could actually slide these...
Roaches that women could wear.
It was like, it was merch.
It was fucking Nazi merch.
Just crazy ways for them to be able to market.
Things that people weren't doing at this point.
That's why it was like so weirdly effective.
it was just like this weird, they turned it in like to mass marketing.
The other thing that he did beyond just that mass marketing was his speeches started to get more grand.
He was able to wherever he would be going to, he would talk to local military base or whoever they had to bring in the military spotlights to surround the campaign area that he was going to be doing his speech in.
Loud speakers always had like amplification loudspeakers.
He wanted to be heard and he wanted to be heard, you know, memorably.
He had lighting controls like at the podium where he was.
so he could dim lights to emphasize dramatic times during his speeches or raise the lights,
that kind of shit.
It was like,
it was pageantry is what it is.
He was like,
it was almost,
I don't know,
it was meant to like evoke like emotions and you're not like the information.
It was almost supposed to make you feel a certain way more than like it was supposed to tell you something.
It was,
they were fucking rock concerts.
Yeah.
He was a rock star when he was out there.
You can go listen to a band.
And no one had ever really,
I don't think anyone had ever really seen all of.
this kind of come together.
No, and not in such an arena like politics.
I'm not saying this to praise of what I'm saying is that like it's just, I don't know,
it's that perfect, I think I was telling you about it.
It's like that diagram where the two circles and it's like absolute psychopath, like,
a perfect talent and like finding those two things and it's like.
The center of the van diagram.
It is he found, he found himself where his greatest skill was the one that he used the most.
Like it's, I don't know how, it's like someone that was supposed to be, like, how they say like Eddie Van Halen was born or like Jimmy Hendricks with it. They put it and they just knew what to do with it. It's like that kind of just specific genius. But being so evil at the same time that it's literally an evil genius. He was, yeah, he was a showman. The man knew exactly what he wanted to do and he was able to do it. And to just acknowledge that that's pretty impressive. It's tough to do with such an evil person.
but he really was gifted.
He had the ability to evoke emotions inside of people
by using these lights, by using the color change.
Not gifted enough because he ends up losing, what, like $18 million to $11 million?
Yeah, but at the same time, for him to jump in to the race so late.
I understand that.
To garner 37% of the vote,
and he actually pushes Von Hindenberg to a runoff because of the situation where...
I don't know how.
Like, they didn't really explain it.
didn't see an explanation because an 11 million or 11 to 18, especially when it's not a, that's not the difference.
That's the totals. That seems like a big enough one to be like, I think we can call this.
Well, that was the final vote. But the runoff is automatically triggered if you don't get over 50% of the vote.
So since he didn't get 50 and Von Hindenberg didn't get 50, probably because Hitler tore a lot of votes from Hindenberg, they had to go to a final runoff.
So him and Hindenberg were other people running. I got you.
Yeah. Him and Hindenberg were the only.
two that were involved in the final one.
They got the two highest percentage of votes.
Okay.
So that was what happened.
In between that first vote and the second vote,
we have a story hit the tabloids of Mr. Rom
making homosexuality very rampant
throughout the essay like we talked about earlier.
And Hitler comes up with what I can only say
would probably be the most ass-backwards,
brilliant way to fight this.
He claimed that,
Rom was so manly and so much of a man that his homosexuality was actually showing the strength
of his masculinity.
So he was just trying in a roundabout way to say this dude is so manly that he doesn't even
like women.
He has to fuck other dudes to be fulfilled.
Like that is the most word salad crazy thing to actually say.
To actually come out and say that.
Yeah.
Knowing what all of your fucking rhetoric and like your fucking book is said and everything like that,
to come out and just think that like
no one's gonna look at me like
he says this but now he's saying this other thing
yeah do we call into question but it was never
like called into question like
oh I guess he's just wrong on this but everything else
it never called into like maybe his judgment's a little skewed
yeah it wasn't like okay so he said being gay is bad
but being super gay is extra good
it's like you get past the wrong
back to another right you break the threshold
yeah it's a horseshoe theory
so Hindenbergins of winning the runoff
and at this time as well
the chancellor is this guy named
Bruning. So Chancellor Bruning
is at this point they've kind of
allowed the SS and the essay to exist
and the reason they've been doing that
is it all boils down to the
Geneva or not the Geneva Convention, the fucking
Treaty of Versailles.
They haven't been happy like German leadership
has not been happy that they can only have 100,000
soldiers. So
what they're looking at, they think of
the SS and the essay, they're basically like
these can be useful to us.
as almost like a standing military in case anything happened.
They never expect them to be essentially turned against.
They're only thinking of it from an aspect of we can use this in case we're attacked
or we need to attack someone else.
It allows them like a loophole for like having a built-up military.
The other thing that would scare you is the fact that the guy who's basically in charge of the
essay and the SS just came in second in the presidential votes and really wanted to be president.
So Chancellor Bruny ends up banning the SS and the essay.
So this guy at least sees some of the writing.
It was like, maybe we're not, we're in a powder cake of a situation.
Yeah.
And this guy has a lot of power both politically and now like technically militarily.
So Bruning actually gets fired because of this.
Because it basically, they realized that like we need the SS and we need to have this like standing force.
Yeah, they have to.
Well, it was Bruning kind of.
his pushback on it, I think, is what was the nail in the coffin for him.
Because there were the other guys, and we'll talk about him here in a second,
that kind of had Hitler's back as far as that was.
And they sort of wanted him in a chancellery advisory role
because it was another situation where they felt like he was somebody
that they could use to get what they wanted.
Exactly.
They still thought that he was useful.
He still thought that they still somehow thought that he was going to be under the her control.
he had never been under their control and he just kept getting stronger.
They were just like, well, at some point he can't pause it.
Like his ideas are too extreme.
He'll never get the full majority.
This is the max they're going to get.
Something also happens that makes them kind of believe that.
But at this point, right before we take a bathroom break,
Bruning is out, the guy that's against the SS and the SA.
New guy comes in named Van Pappen.
First thing he does, he lifts that band.
So SS and essay are right back in, and we'll be right back as well.
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Van Pappen, Franz von Pappen is in.
So we got another new vote here.
So...
New chancellor, new vote.
Yep.
New chancellor, new vote.
So there's a new vote, and apparently everyone gets voted.
Like, it's not just for certain positions.
Like, everyone just gets voted again.
So basically what ends up happening during this one is now the Nazis become the biggest party in the Reichstag.
And because they are now the biggest party in the Reichstag.
party in the Reichstag, guess who's eligible to run for Chancellor?
1933 elections, March 6th.
Put himself up for Chancellor.
You can't run for it.
It has to be chosen.
So he is eligible to be chosen as Chancellor.
They yielded 43% of the vote, and they used a coalition with somebody called the DNVP
to take that 50% majority.
So that automatically makes the H-Man up for chancellery.
and Van Pappen
was actually
pretty down with taking over
and overthrowing the Weimar Republic
so he
him and another guy
um
sorry that was probably bad into the mic
um
Kurt Von Schlecker
yeah Kurt Von Schlecker
both go to
Von Hindenberg
and they're like hey
I know that you want to make me
Chancellor as Van Pepin
we kind of like this Hitler guy though
He's like Hitler's a loose cannon
I'm not gonna put the guy that just ran
For the presidency up there
That's not gonna happen
Van Pappen you're my guy
He's like I'm not gonna take the guy that was
Bad back to me and that I beat
Now I have to be responsible for the job that he does
And if I put him in that position
And he turns out to be shit
Then it looks bad on me
And he's already a loose cannon
We already know that he's a little bit kooky
He was the guy that tried to get here by force before
Now he's trying to get here
Are we not forgetting, like, literally what he went to prison for?
And here's the crazy thing, too, is like, this is all still happening despite the fact that he went to prison for fucking treason.
It didn't somehow disqualify him for holding any type of office like this.
Like, he tried to violently overthrow the government.
And just because now he's doing it in what they considered their legitimate way, he's able to go ahead and do it.
it's such a weird
weird thought that this could just continue to happen
well and the thing too is you got to think that like
because the Nazi party has this many positions
the party is growing
you now have people that are in positions
of like power like in police
and military and things like that that are members of the Nazi
party that were already there and then other members
joining those places
to go ahead and also infiltrate
and have positions of power there so they're really
it's not just like oh we've taken the right shag
it's literally them spreading their fucking like tentacles out into fucking everything else.
So they end up offering Hitler the vice chancellor position.
That was a big mistake.
And he's like, nope, I'm not doing that shit.
I'm not playing second fiddle.
That's not going to work for me.
So during this time as well, because they become the largest party,
Guring becomes the head of the right stag, which is basically like the speaker of the house.
When previously, after he got shot during the push, he fucking.
fled, he ended up going
and turning himself in at some point.
Then he went to a mental institution
for morphine addiction and shit.
So he's been in a fucking psych ward.
And now he's the goddamn speaker of the fucking house.
Like, what the fuck is going on here?
What a glow up. That's incredible
to go from there to there.
Like,
and so
you get him in this position as well.
And using
what was it?
Oh, sorry.
there was a situation where some communists that there was a communist party also in the right stag
there's representation for the communists and they actually because they kind of i think saw van
pappen and like hitler like him and kind of support not supported you know he put him up for the
chancellor but he wanted him to be chancellor they actually did like a vote of no confidence
in pappin and so he's like this is perfect like they're they're going to get rid of you know
the chancellor there's going to be another old
opening we get Hiller in here. So basically because he's the speaker of the house, he's the one that has to call for the vote. Goring does. So Van Pappen actually goes to von Hinden. It has to get it fucked up.
A thing signed that says like I can't get voted out or has to have like a decree signed. It was to take over the emergency powers away from the Reichstag like he had done or like that's right. So he literally comes back with this signed document as Guring is like calling for the vote and his show.
him in his face and Gering just is like
looking over him acting like he doesn't see him
he slams it down on the desk in front of him
and he just smiles at him he calls the vote
and holds it anyway and at a vote of 500
to 45 Pappen is gone
and not gone in the sense of like he just
gets booted but apparently like that means
your term is coming to an end sooner
no confidence and it's no confidence so basically
he's still kind of in that position
because it comes back into play here in a little bit
so there's almost like this
token van
happen in in the chancellor position well the token van pepin is replaced by schleischer that's right
yep so again they go to hindenberg like hey yeah he offers to resign like on novemberg like hey
and then kurt von schleiker instead of being like well we should put hitler in this position he actually
kind of has a change of heart and goes to hendemberg and is like hey you know i was a general in the
military and everything i want to give a crack at this chancellor thing and
Hindenberg is like, sure, cool.
And he gets approved and put into position on December 2nd.
How did he not see what Gordon just did?
And he's like, I don't want any part of that.
Like, that seems like a crazy.
He thinks because he's a general and everything,
he's used to just holding people under his command.
So I think he thinks he could, oh, that's why he does it.
Because he thinks he can pull one up on the Nazi party.
So what he does is to split their power base and not make them as effective.
He offers the vice chancellor position to,
Strasser.
And Strasser is like,
declines and he's like, I can't, he's like,
I'm not going to go against my party like that.
They find out that they met and that he offered it,
regardless of him declining it,
they kick him out of the Nazi party.
So now he doesn't have a political party.
They can't turn right around and then put him back in there
because he's no longer part of the majority party.
So it's not like they can go back and be like,
well, now that I'm out, I can, you know, I don't have party loyalty.
He just can't take the position.
And he's gone.
So January 4th in 1933,
three, Hitler actually meets with Van Pappen in secret.
And basically, they're like, hey, we should do this like Van Pappen, Hitler, like, deal and
everything like that.
And Hitler's like, nah, he's like, again, I'm not playing second fiddle.
Like, I'm not going to be the vice chancellor of this.
Well, they don't come to an agreement, but Hitler sets it up to where when he's leaving
Van Pappen's residence, he has his photographer snapping pictures.
He gives him a big theatrical handshake, like they just agreed on a partnership, big
enthusiastic and they end up running those fucking paper, uh, pictures in the paper.
The Nazi paper. The Nazi paper. And although Van Pappen is out on this, he still has like,
he has, uh, Hindenberg's ear. Yes. Very much, uh, I don't know, somebody that he would
bounce a lot of ideas off of. Pappen and Hindenberg were pretty thick together. So as this is
happening, Von Schleischer takes over. We have another election. Um,
failed to get over 50% the first election.
Next election, they actually see a decent increase,
but they still can't quite get there.
I believe they were at 43%,
and they form another coalition,
probably maybe with the same people.
And by that time, they do hit the 50% majority.
And so that puts Chancellor, Hitler, on the table
because now he's a viable option.
They've crossed that threshold.
they have a chance and it becomes a situation where Hitler is kind of asking for this before
and now he's in like an undeniable position.
Well, and they find out, did you mention the tax scandal?
Oh, that's right.
So they threw spying and shit like that and all of their fucking digging up dirt.
Again, this party is like playing like dirty fucking politics.
They're trying to find out anything they can on their political opponents.
They got Herbert Hoover or J. Edgar Hoover working for him.
Yeah, more or less.
so they end up finding some stuff out on Hindenburg
about him not paying his taxes or some shit
so they have some dirt on him
Hindenberg is losing faith in Schleiker
and so Pappen comes back
and even though he's not a chancellor position
he's still an influential person in politics
people will still go and bend his ear for information
stuff like that so he actually
proposes Hitler's chancellor again
and Pabbin's like I'll be the vice chancellor
I'll keep him in check
and I'll keep him in check that way you can fire him
but I'll also have all the day-to-day type dealing,
so I'll be able to keep you your price,
and if he needs to get let go,
I'll give you the signal,
and you just get rid of him,
and then I'll step back into the chancellor.
He's like, we'll do this,
and what we'll also do to limit his power
is we won't let him fill all of these cabinet positions
with, like, the Nazis.
We're only going to give them two cabinet positions.
So they're like, well, this sounds great.
You know, we'll be able to go ahead and control him,
get him to do what we want and everything.
And so Hindenberg reluctantly agree,
and swears Hitler in on January 30th, 1933, as the fucking chancellor of Germany.
And right after this happens, Ludendorf sends a letter, sends a letter to Hindenburg,
and basically the gist of it is, I know Hitler, I've dealt with Hitler, what you've just done
is you've turned over our country to a fucking madman.
And this will be the decision that will haunt your name and curse your name for
eternity.
So basically just calls him out and says this is what's going to
fucking happen and just calls the shot.
Wouldn't wrong. No.
Five hours after fucking taken office,
he meets with like, Hitler meets with like his cabinet,
his inner circle and starts making plans,
he's like, so we should just dissolve parliament.
We should just dissolve the right stag, right?
And basically,
because he can't just go about
just dissolving yet, because it's
part of the constitution, he doesn't have those powers yet
or anything, and he still has oversight.
He's like, okay, well,
what we're going to do is we're going to set up new elections because there's a new chancellor.
The new elections are going to be held on March 5th.
So they got the elections sorted out, got that squared away and coming up.
Well, during a dinner prior to the elections, there's a whole bunch of like the military brass and all that kind of stuff.
And Hitler ends up giving his speech and basically lays out what his policy and what his reign is going to be.
Rearmament is going to be a priority.
the conquest of the east to take back the lands lost.
And is it Liebenstog?
I was trying to figure out what that is.
His whole thing is about it's this term.
I want to say it's Liebenstog, sorry if I mispronagnostic,
but what it translates to in German is living space.
And his grand design, as also I think covered in mind comp,
is that he wants to create, unite all of the Germans people,
German people, and then give them enough room to thrive
by conquering into the east and giving them room to,
grow and to create an empire.
And
part of this is
you know, he's talking to these people
that are in the military and they're just like
like, is this guy fucking like, sir?
Like this guy's in a position now where
he's going to try to make this stuff
happen. Like, this is some
crazy shit, but then he has a couple people
that are still under that.
You know, stabbing the back type
thing where they're like, we should have a loss. Like maybe
this is our destiny. Maybe
we're supposed to have another shot at this.
And so as he's scheming, he just constantly is trying to figure out a way to gain more power.
And he's doing these things that seem kind of innocuous when they get put in front of the Reichstag.
Like they're restricted to the two cabinet positions.
But how he ends up circumventing that as he's like, so Herman Gurring is in one of the positions.
Why don't we make him like interior minister of Prussia?
And they're like, okay, I mean, that seems like it's not a super important cabinet position.
He'll just be the minister of Prussia.
that gives him control over the police state and the policing of Prussia.
Prussia holds 60% of the German population.
So they just handed the Nazi party the policing of authority over 60% of the German population.
And it's around this time that now that that's in play,
Gurings sets up what's going to be known as the secret state police.
And more commonly known as the Gestapo.
Oh, yeah.
that's right. That's right. The Gestapo. There's just so many weird kind of things at play.
Like he, he's figured out so well the ways where he can circumvent the law to where he can still kind of work within that democratic framework that he lied that he was going to stick to.
But he had a brain to be able to figure out, like putting Gering in that position.
It's such a strategic move that it seems so brilliant, but nobody.
would catch on to it.
Nobody would understand what was going on.
And I think we're about to get into the most contentious part of our topic, at least between
you and I, because I know that we have some differing opinions on this.
But when you were talking about Hitler not really being able to figure out how to get rid of
that whole Reichstag issue and try to dissolve Parliament so he doesn't have to work
with him.
on February 27th, 1933,
a younger gentleman named
Marianus van lube,
or van der lube.
He was a Dutch communist.
He had made his way into Germany.
God, I don't remember.
It was like lie or something like that.
It was a mining industry, I believe.
So this guy was partially blind
and apparently very easily wasn't the sharpest tool
and was very easily influenced.
Maybe.
This is where we're going to, and we're going to agree to disagree on this, but basically February 27th, he buys a buttload of lighters.
And all of a sudden, very conveniently, the Reichstag happens to be set on fire.
And Hitler sees this, and is just absolutely thrilled and mentioned something, I think, to either, no, not goring, but I think Gerbils, and he's like, I've got them now or something like that.
coincidentally enough, here's
here's my pitch.
Gurring is the first one on the scene
and basically they immediately
blamed communist.
They haven't even found
this van der Lube guy yet
but they immediately suspect
that it's a communist,
international communist plot.
So they end up finding
the firefighters are there,
they're trying to put out the fire,
the main chamber's already kind of
collapsed on in on itself
and
wandering the fucking ruins
and burned out portions
is a shirtless Vanderlub.
who once he said it, because of the smoke and his partial blindness and his confusion,
couldn't find his way out of the Reichstag, yet somehow survived in there.
I don't know.
And the other part, too, is that, yeah, the police come and they interview him,
but because Goering is there and controls essentially the police,
they're able to completely control the narrative.
And without even a...
This guy just happens to be like a card-carrying member of the Communist Party.
Like it's right after he fucking gets elected.
He's starting to make these changes.
He needs the right stag out of the way you're in chaos.
He needs something to happen to go ahead and grant himself those emergency powers that basically turned the chancellor into the sole authority.
And what better way than to have a communist end up setting fire to the right stag?
The newspapers that they have access to even run that story like the next day before it's even been investigated.
into they control that much of it to where now they've drummed up essentially this public fever of
like we're under attack from communism and this Germany under attack line is essentially going to
be used to create this thing called the Reichstag fire decree and the very next day the very
next day and what this does and I'm trying to figure out how this passed and how any of this
was justified as far as like how it relates to a communist setting fire to this building.
So basically Hitler is saying our country is under attack, a national threat by the communists.
So what I'm going to do is part of this fire decree is it's going to go ahead and put certain powers in myself, basically all of them.
What it's also going to do is I'm going to really crack down on things like the right to assemble, free speech.
Also, it's going to go ahead and increase police powers where they're able to go ahead and do a little bit more
than they should.
And after this is passed within the first two weeks,
10,000 people are arrested under suspicion of being a communist
and not just that.
I think some of the people in the Jewish community are also arrested.
Anybody that at this point is not a political ally of Hitler,
people just start getting picked up.
Anybody that's not nailed down with Nazi nails,
well men
the women I think were probably
mostly spared and it was men that were taken in
but yeah I mean it's
it was a hell of a move
I think he mostly got it through
because they were still they hadn't
had their elections yet I think Hindenberg
signed it when he was still half asleep or some shit
and Hindenberg threw it in front of it again
getting getting on in the years
and it was an old man fear mongering too
we're under attack by the by the
communists and everything I need these powers now so I can
go ahead and save us
you know, I'm the, I'm the German savior.
Yeah, it was definitely a move that feels like it was a,
I don't know that it could have been playing and coordinated.
It's, I just feel like it's, this is, um,
the Great Depression all over again.
This is a stock market crash all over again.
It just, chaos.
The right place at the right time.
Every time he's gained a new level of power, it has been through chaos.
Yeah.
And at this point, he's learned how to,
manufacture that, not wait for it. He's now
manufacturing the chaos. I don't think he
manufactured this one. You say...
It's too coincidentally timed.
It's too coincidentally tied up neatly
with a found
adversary that he could turn into
a national scare and get
himself these powers, man. I think it's just
too. If looking into him
he,
the plan may seem far-fetched
and stuff like that, like, what if that guy
would have escaped the fire
or something like that? I'm not even saying that they like,
approached him as the Nazi party and everything.
But if he was out and they had,
you know, they had people everywhere, like I was saying.
All they had to do was influence him.
He could have been there and been waiting for another guy to help him
that could have been in on it or someone posing as a communist.
And that guy just didn't show up or that guy showed up,
helped him do it and then left.
The other thing, too.
So Gurring was the first one on there.
Coincidentally enough,
Gurring also has in his office a tunnel that leads into the Reichstadt.
So it's not like,
it's that far-fetched. I mean, agree to disagree and everything like that. Either way,
it works out in beautiful, just, coincidence. Yeah.
For Hitler. So you give a zero percent chance on it was...
Zero. Okay. I'll put zero on that. I'll stamp that shit. Okay. And then even after that,
so he's trying to gain more powers, more powers, then we get to the Enabling Act. And what that
does is that's... Well, we got to hit the elections. Oh, okay.
Yeah, so March 6th, 1933, after all this happened, they yield 43% of the vote again and have to form another coalition to be able to get that 50% majority.
So there's still people, and this is where I come back, like the conversation that we've had versus the Nazi party, the people that collaborate and were with them, versus what population of Germany we believe was against this, but kind of powerless to do anything.
Yeah.
The fact that they're still not getting 50% of the vote, even with all of the potential influence.
and voter intimidation, everything like that
that they're pulling at this point,
still says to me that, like,
the majority is still trying to find something different.
Yeah.
I'm not going to say it's going to stay that way
once everything kicks off,
but at least at this point,
there's still some resistance to these ideas.
And that's solely the Nazi party.
The other factions of the far right,
like the DMVP again that they had to,
um,
form these coalitions with,
they had to use them in certain ways to be able to get there.
So these people had to kind of believe in the shit that Hitler was putting out there.
So they were also probably fairly bad people too.
But almost the more interesting stat was we saw these major jumps in popularity for them to get to where they were.
And then it's almost kind of like tabled.
Like there weren't more heights in the public voting system that they were going to be able to get.
to. They saw that they had gotten to
essentially a stalemate on this
they were plateaued nationally.
And now they needed to look for another way to
essentially not even even the odds
and everything. They basically needed a way to get them that
additional bump and that extra step up.
Yeah. And that's exactly what you're
talking about with the Enabling Act.
The Enabling Act basically just granted
Hitler's power to enact laws
without the Reich Tags consent for four years.
That
is an extremely long
time to just completely
gut the Reichstag. I mean, these people
that power. Yeah. They're still
going to be voted for. They're still
going to be put into office and all that kind of stuff, but they're
basically just there to
fill seats. Yeah. Like there's just, there's
really no other thing that they can do.
March 23rd, they put it to the vote
and they're voting, I believe
it's in like a theater or something like that.
Yeah, like an opera house or something like that. Yeah. Could have been.
The
whole entire place is lying,
with SS members.
SS and the NSA?
Yeah.
They're right there to make sure
that this vote goes the way that it should go.
And of course, it passes,
I think with like a 90%
of the vote
and the Reichstag.
441 to 94.
Okay. So not a 90%,
but a good amount.
Yeah. Yep.
And this is when you start to see
essentially at this point,
pretty much all the,
they're never going to
relinquish this level of power.
They get to this and they only gain more.
It never goes back until the end of World War II.
Yeah.
And they do some crazy shit.
They ban the Social Democratic Party.
All trade unions are forced to dissolve.
Did you see how they did that with the trade unions?
Uh-uh.
So what they did is Hitler fucking created a union holiday.
They'd wanted a trade union holiday.
And then that weekend, as they left for a long weekend,
he raided their fucking offices for all the trade unions.
and basically like arrested a whole bunch of the people.
Just blackbag jobbed him.
Blackbag jobbed him so he could go do this while they were all, you know,
going on a long weekend.
And basically that's what they used to dissolve the trade unions.
Like you said, they basically arrested leaders of other political parties.
And this is where you're going to get the first instances of them being sent to
what will become the concentration camps at this point.
They're just kind of the prison and work camps.
Yeah.
Sort of the same idea is like a,
Well, I think concentration comes from the sort of re-education that they're trying to do for a lot of these.
So you have these labor union leaders that are going into these concentration camps along.
This is more like Dachau.
Yeah, I think.
Yeah, I think Dachau is like what, like 12 miles from Munich?
They're pulling these guys in.
These social democratic party leaders that are getting taken there at the same time are also being reprogrammed to try to be Nazis.
It's a fallen police state.
Like this is literally just like you're taking out your political opponents.
You're arresting them for essentially no crimes other than just being politically against you.
Well, and that leads right into July 14th, 1933.
Again, just bang, bang, bang.
Nazi party is declared the only legal political party in Germany.
So they have become the only people that are allowed to rule, which is, I mean, you just, you don't lose after that.
So you are basically, in essence, the only party that is allowed to do anything politically, so you just own the country.
I don't know if you have anything before Hindenberg's passing.
So before his passing, they also start to put in some pretty, as crazy as we've already discussed stuff.
Now we start getting into the real fucking horrible shit.
So kind of during this time, Himmler takes over with the Gestapo.
He's already kind of been working and building up the SS.
at this point there's a million SS members
Dachau like we were talking about gets opened up
It was an old munitions factory
They didn't build these things purpose built
Essentially at this point for like the concentration camp
So they'd repurpose places
Yeah
There's a boycott of all Jewish businesses
Businesses are banned
And they're also banned from like schools and higher education
They're really starting to ban them at this point
From any type of like holding any type of civil offices
And any type of like social settings
Yeah
July 20th Pope fucking
Pius signs the Concord Act with fucking Hitler.
I don't know what it was, but the fact that the
Pope fucking signs up with fucking Hitler for something,
I know it wasn't a bad thing.
Right, it was a bad thing, but it wasn't like a bad thing.
He's not like, I'm signing this act to condemn you.
Like, it wasn't that type of shit.
Still working with a bad man.
Exactly.
Oh, we have a ton of shit.
Before Hindenburg.
Yeah, okay, what do you got?
So I was going to say in 33, this is where you get the sterilization laws
coming into play.
So as part of this, you're getting people that essentially have undesirable traits that are being sterilized overall throughout the course of the Nazi reign.
400,000 people are going to be rendered childless.
And 300,000 people that are in psychiatric hospitals are going to be euthanized.
I can't remember what they fucking tried to dress it up for, but they tried to call it something that made it seem like it was a fucking merciful death or some shit like that.
But yeah, 300,000 just people being in psychiatric hospitals were all euthanized.
Yeah, his eugenics policy just ran wild.
He was trying to build this superior race of people by taking out the less fortunate people in life that hadn't been gifted, you know, with the normalities that other people have.
And just those numbers alone to think about the sterilization is so bad, but the euthanization of the others is just, it's crazy.
Well, on October 14th, they actually vote.
to pull themselves out of the League of Nations.
I thought this would have happened before this,
but apparently they were waiting on it.
Hitler actually schedules the vote for armistice weekend.
So it reminds everybody why they fucking lost.
So when they're talking about the League of Nations,
it's drumming up all those feelings,
and that fucking passes.
Like you said, they have the Nazi-only elections.
They have the trial for the fucking Reichstag fire.
Five people are up on trial.
One guy is, you know, Vanderlub,
and then there's some other what they consider conspirators.
Basically rounded them up and said you were a part of this.
One of the guys ends up becoming like the prime minister of like Holland or something at some point.
Yeah.
And he, when it all is said and done, even the fucking legal system at this point, only Vanderlub is found guilty.
The other ones, there's not enough evidence.
Apparently this guy that ends up becoming like the prime minister or something like that.
I can't remember which country.
Don't quote me that it's Holland.
He ends up just like making like gerbils and gurring on the stand.
like look like a fool with like cross-examination.
And so he ends up getting the other four guys off.
Vanderlube, I think, is put under the guillotine.
Yeah.
So, yeah, he doesn't meet a great end.
The Hitler starts to notice the issue.
He's starting to kind of look.
He's already making plans for the expansion.
One of the things that's drawing his eye is the Jewish corridor and the separation of
Prussia.
His focus is to try to unite essentially.
Polish corridor?
Yep.
What I say?
Jewish.
I said Polish.
Did I say Jewish corridor?
Maybe you said Polish.
I think I said Polish.
There probably are some Jewish people living there.
Yeah.
But the Polish corridor.
And so Poland starts to get a little worried about all this stuff because
out of all of the countries that essentially have the most German land taken from essentially
the pre-World War I German Empire, whatever, is Poland.
If anything, they would, I would think that they would feel like they got the biggest
bullseye on them.
So Hitler is just.
like, you know what, let's just sign a non-aggression pact, and we'll try to figure out this whole, you know, Polish corridor thing later.
Big on non-aggression packs.
That was a big thing that I think he did with a lot of different countries that seemed like he just, he was basically sending a pre-aggression pact with him.
That's all that it was.
Just let you know I'm here.
Yep.
Yeah, along with that, expanded the Vermeck to 600,000, so six times the amount that he was supposed to be able to.
As soon as he gets out of League of Nations
he's like well it's fucking on now
Yeah that was like it was like some weird like
That's not what is keeping them from fucking
Raising a military
But it's like it was a weird like formality for him
He's like oh so this gives me permission
Since I'm no longer under his jurisdiction
But yeah so like you were saying
On August 22nd in 34
Hindenberg dies Hitler's still just building up his power base
That's all he's doing is he's grabbing any control wall where he can
Yeah and he before von Hindenberg
Berg dies, we have some real business to take care of.
The Night of the Long Knives.
Oh, yes.
The night of the long knives occurred from the 30th of June to the 2nd of July in 1934.
And it was basically Hitler tying up any loose end that he felt like needed to be tied up.
So what kind of caused this?
Did you see what kind of cause this to actually happen?
Yeah.
Rom was going to Van Schleischer
sort of allegedly
behind Hitler's back
There was enough there that they found out
Like Rom wasn't happy
Because the essay was having to take the backseat
When they felt like they were like one of the sole reasons
For the rise of the party and like their authority
Yeah
So they were like you know
They were now kind of like
They had the new kid now
The essay and the Gestapo and everything
So they thought that they were being betrayed
They were jealous of that
They were given jobs too
They found out about the trade union thing.
And they're like, we're fucking workers.
Like, what the fuck are you doing?
You just gave all the power to, like, you were supposed to be the National Socialist
German Workers Party.
So they felt fucking betrayed by this stuff.
Well, and to satiate them, too, they were like, hey, go work in these concentration camps.
Like, you guys can go bully these.
Or you could be the border force.
Yeah.
You could, like, be the border force and everything.
And Ron was like, no, I'm not fucking.
So he actually kind of speaks against Hitler a little bit.
And at some point, there's some other infighting, like Pappen,
apparently is still like not a political
power but he's still influential
politically
so he like
attacks gerbils
and then
I'm trying to kind of figure out how this leads up to the
night long knife sorry
Hitler ends up visiting
Hindenburg like before his death
and it's under the guise of letting him know what's going on with the
workings and everything but it's really just to see what his health is
and like how close how much time Hitler has before he's dead
and he can really make his
his biggest moves.
But getting back to the night of the long knives.
So there's some dissension going on.
And basically Hitler finds out about this and gets hold of ROM and is like, hey, we need
to go ahead and meet up, get all of your lieutenants and everything.
We need to talk about this and kind of bury this thing and figure out how you guys are
going to contribute.
So during this whole point, too, is, you know, Himmler's been digging up all this stuff
on ROM and I think he's introduced some false stuff.
Yeah.
He said that Rom was meeting like with French dignitary.
and all this shit.
He had met with like Strausser
and like all these other people
and basically plays up this fear
that like he's gonna make a move
against Hitler.
So June 27th,
the night of the long nights
was actually the 31st, right?
It was from June 30th to July 2nd
so I'm assuming
because they had rounded up the essay.
Yeah, so Hitler's on his way back
I think to Berlin.
He calls to get the SS mobilized
tells wrong to basically gather his lieutenants
and then, oh, he's there in Munich, sorry.
Hitler flies to Munich to basically arrest Rom and comes in to either the hotel or wherever
they're staying, comes into his room and Rom wakes up with Hitler and his Lugar and his bodyguard
standing over him.
And come to find out that next door was like a lieutenant like sleeping with like another like
essay, essay member.
And then like they start going down the whole hotel.
And it's just like all of this just like dude on dude action just like spilling out of these
hotel rooms.
Hot dude on dude action is happening as they're breaking these doors down.
So on the 31st, Hitler calls Geringen gives him, do you remember the code word?
Calibre.
Huh?
Calibre.
Calabre?
He gives him the word to run with the operation for the essay purge.
And it's not just the essay that is getting purged by this.
At this point, Hitler needs to have complete and total control.
So any dissent, and anybody that has wronged him, the night of the long knives is for them.
Yeah.
So they storm Pappen's office.
And he's not there.
His press secretary is so they pull him into a room and shoot him in the back ten times.
Kurt Von Schleiker, he's the guy that kind of stole the chancellorship that first time away from Hitler.
He ends up getting killed in his home by some good shopper guys.
And his wife comes out after they shoot him and they kill her too.
Yep.
Yeah, she didn't make it out of life.
Strasser gets arrested and thrown into jail
and Dukeshopo jail and then they fire at him
with a machine gun through the bars.
He's trying to dodge it and finally they open the cell and finish him off.
Redder von Carr,
remember the guy during the beer hall push that
told Hitler he was going to be on a side and then left
and got the police involved.
Yeah, he paid for that.
They end up killing him, like take him out to the swamp
and kill him with a pickaxe.
And even the guy
who helped Hitler write Mind Kampf
fucking they kill him
because he was the one that was aware of the truth
of certain things and everything
and so they end up getting rid of him as well
and this isn't just the people
that I'm talking about that get killed
this is just kind of like showing you how widespread
spanning it is it's not just people within
the essay or within his own organization
anybody that has ever crossed
him is going to fucking get it this night
it was officially reported
85 people died
later estimates and go
back and looking at it, it looks like about
a thousand people had died. And that was
members of the SA that they had rounded
up, that they were killing if they
weren't sending them off to these work camps.
They were literally like, they had
made a call for people to report back to
like, um, I say headquarters.
And as they were showing up, they were
just being like, nope, follow us. And then they would have
these buses full of guys take them to get
a job of headquarters and line them up against a wall and shoot
him. Yeah, just a real
bad deal. He put some real torture
on ROM. Uh,
Ron was in a prison cell, and he had two Gestapo guards go in.
They dropped him off a luger, and they dropped him off one bullet,
and they said, if you have any bravery, you will do what the Fuhr wants you to do.
They walk out of the cell, no shot, no shot, no shot, walk back into the cell.
He says he's not going to kill himself, and they kill him.
Just they put that little bit of extra mind torture in there, almost.
like they didn't want to do it because they didn't want to have to report to Hitler that it was that way.
Almost like it was Rom's last test of loyalty or some shit.
Yeah.
But in the end, it was going to kill him.
Yeah, but Hillary would have felt a lot, but I'm guessing it would have been like his loyalty was always to me like and everything.
But the fact, it was like a last insult to fucking Hitler.
Yeah.
But it really was just him cleaning up every sort of issue that could challenge his power.
And he gets the ultimate cleanup.
up August 2nd, 1934.
What happened in September, though?
What was the, I forgot, what was the Ship Act?
A ship act?
Yeah, the Nazi Party annexed, the Nuremberg laws.
Oh, that's, we'll get to that right after, because this is 34, that's 35.
Oh, okay.
I just put it in the wrong spot.
So, 1934, excuse me, Hindenberg dies.
And when Hindenberg dies, Hitler had put it in writing and had Hindenberg's son at some point that,
As Hindenberg dies, the presidential position is dissolved.
It's something he paints it.
He paints it as a way that no one will ever compare.
Yeah.
And sends him off and like he's like he's going to receive a,
he gets a funeral service like one of like the Kaiser's.
And he sends him off.
He's like no one can ever fill von Hindenberg shoes.
He's like, and so because of that, it'll just be the chancellor.
No one will be president again.
It'll just be the chancellor.
And ultimately when he does that, he takes over all of the military power, all of the military fight.
We have, as you were just talking about, September 15th, 1935, he enacts two separate laws, and these laws were called the Nuremberg laws.
One of them was called the Reich Citizenship Act.
that one
both of these are pertaining to
Jewish people
come on
the citizenship law
was the Nazi party
had always promised
that if they came to power
only racially pure Germans
would be allowed
to hold German citizenship
the right citizenship law
made this a reality
the law defined a citizen
as a person who is of German
or related blood
this meant that Jews
defined as a separate race could not be
full citizens of Germany and they had no
political rights
So they use citizenship through genealogy basically
to disqualify any Jewish people from having any sort of political power
to be able to vote or do anything else.
To be able to actually enact change.
We've taken away so much from you already,
but now here's the last vestige of any choice you have in something.
Yeah.
And these are coming just straight from the Holocaust Encyclopedia.
Our second one is going to be the law of protection of German blood and honor.
and that law for the protection of German blood and honor
was a law against the Nazis viewed as a race mixing
or race defilement.
That sounds terrible.
Ban future intermarriages and sexual relations
between Jews and people of German related blood.
The Nazis believed that such relationships were dangerous
because that led to mixed race children.
According to Nazis, these children and their descendants
undermine the purity of the German race.
So not only have you strictly...
not taking any time. Yeah.
Yeah, just that quick to just start dropping them from political power and then to start
controlling marriages so they were unable to really have any sort of effect.
And it just really gets worse from there. We'll talk about Crystal Noct in a little bit,
but that was just one of the worst things that I ever had to read about.
March 36
Germany
reoccupies the Rhineland
So they've already started
Moving on into these territories to take it over
So they took over the DMZ
The demilitarized zone
July 36
Well and at this point
Kind of going back to what you were saying
After leaving the League of Nation
Like expanding the what they consider now
The German military
They call it the Vermacht
And so they expand that up initially
To 600,000
They already have a huge
pool that they can pull from like former SA, SS, things like that, that they can put into positions
of leadership. They've been developing already an Air Force, and Gurring has been put in charge
of that. And basically, what they're doing is they're training pilots as part of, like, a flying
sport club. Yep. Like, it's like sport flying. So that's how they're able to get away with the
development of, like, fighter aircraft and everything. They're supposed to be for recreational.
And they start also starting to like develop and start to kind of build up like a Navy.
Pocket destroyers, I believe. Pocket destroyers. Or pocket battleships.
That's okay, yeah.
It was pocket battleships.
So it wasn't violating certain things about the size of like ships they were supposed to have.
What they've also started doing is they're designing the bombers that they're going to be using for their terror campaigns, except they're using them and putting seats in them and using them as passenger and cargo planes.
So they're basically super easily to be converted into like bomb bays and everything.
So they're developing an Air Force for attack, but disguising it as just commercial aircraft.
And you got to understand at this time too, again, there's not fucking satellite, there's not surveillance, there's not anything like that.
You do have people that are in Germany that are representatives of the powers that won the First World War like embassies and things like that.
You have ambassadors that are working with certain people within Germany.
But this stuff isn't being done right in their sight line.
They're doing this in remote places where they can do it in secret.
And these people don't know what's going on.
You again have, you know, all of like the press within Germany completely stifled for, you know, freedom of the press.
But that doesn't go to the foreign correspondence, but they're only able to see certain information.
They do see a lot of the shit of cutting down on the rights.
They're completely aware of that because they know that their German counterparts can't do shit.
They're watching the left hand while the right hand is developing everything.
They see this stuff going against the Jewish community.
And so this information is getting out of Germany about all this stuff.
It's just that none of these other countries, no one wants to get into another war.
You know, there's a little bit of like, hey, you know, what the fuck's going on in Germany?
But no one has stepped in to be like, actually be like, hey, stop what you guys are fucking doing.
Nobody's put their foot down.
Like, no one's willing to like go in at this point.
Everyone's still kind of trying to work to rebuild themselves after this.
But I think when this finally came to light about what's going on, they're like, okay, when did this fucking happen?
Like, did this guy literally just sneak into him?
They're like, no, this, like six years, five six years.
They've been working on it.
Yeah, they've been fucking doing this the whole time.
And so now you get to, like you were saying, 36,
Germany reoccupies the Rhineland and everything.
Or that's March 36.
July 36, you get Francisco Franco.
Francisco Franco and the Spanish Civil War.
So you get him leading, was it the nationalist or what was his?
This was the revolutionary side.
Yeah.
And then you had the Republic.
The Republic communists.
And they were still in.
had essentially
Russia supporting
the republic, the current power,
and then you had Hitler stepping
into being like, hey, Franco, you need
some help? Well, we got
some shit that we want to test
out. Yeah. Would you mind testing
down and seeing these tanks work and seeing how
these guns work? And, you know, why don't we send over
some pilots to just help you guys train you guys, maybe
fly some of the planes? So, I
think we've mentioned this kind of before in a previous
episode, probably like the
D-Day one, that they had, the Luftwaffe,
had had training.
So they were just basically doing like a warm-up war.
They had nothing to win or lose in this.
But if they did win,
Hitler was essentially creating a potential ally.
Yeah.
So that happens during the Spanish Civil War.
Then we get August 1936.
Hitler orders Gering to basically prepare Germany for war in four years.
So he's already putting a date on it.
Yeah.
I mean, that's pretty fucking quick.
That's pretty fast to be able to put all this stuff together.
if it's just indeed four years, but it's really not
because they've been working on this
and slowly piecing these things together
to be able to convert them.
And so four years is a real sped up timeline.
And as we'll see, I mean, he says that in 36,
they've already been at war for years
by the time four years would be up.
By the time 1940 rolls around,
they're already hot and heavy.
I think the thing is,
is he has some situations in which he plans for.
So he's like, we're going to be in war in four years.
But what happens is I think he has like,
because he starts preparing
you know, the war in the East and is offensive.
But I think that he thinks it's going to maybe take longer
and he's going to have larger breaks before, like, the next campaign.
But once he gets into it and they start just steamrolling
and being able to take over these territories,
I think his brain kicks in is just like, oh, let's just keep going.
Yeah, let's just keep going.
Yeah.
We're taking these guys' fries.
So November 1st, is this when him and Mussolini decide to go ahead
and create their little partnership?
Yeah.
this is when Mussolini declares the Axis.
And like we kind of talked about earlier with Hitler or Mussolini, Hitler really looked up to Mussolini.
He felt like he was somebody that he wanted to model his kind of takeover after.
And the first time they meet is, we believe, maybe the first time that he had actually left the country and went down to Italy.
He meets Mussolini down there.
He has, like, really poor Italian that has that really just nasty accent behind it.
and Mussolini got taught like third grade German.
So these two can't communicate whatsoever really.
And it's just kind of Hitler yelling at Mussolini
and Mussolini trying to figure out like what words he can use in German
to try to oppress this guy.
And of course it's passed off for both of like their newspapers and everything
is like a shining success of a partnership and like nothing fucking came of it.
So Mussolini's taking him around Italy.
And one of the things that they had scheduled was an army parade.
And so they roll up to it.
And Mussolini's guys are so just out of practice and just don't care anymore, that as they're marching down the street, they're running into each other.
And as they're running into each other, these different units and troops start fighting on the street in front of Mussolini and Hitler.
Mussolini's just sitting there watching it.
Hey, look at where you're going.
I was here first.
Hitler kind of looks over at Mussolini and Mussolini's like, yeah?
You impressed?
He's like, how the fuck you get a dictator for 12 years old?
you doing, man.
Just the way that they meet each other was just so unspectacular.
And by the time Hitler left, Mussolini's like, this guy's a joke.
And Hillary's like, the fuck did this guy get in power?
So they already have that dynamic of like, Mussolini was built up so much in Hitler's
mind that when he finally meets him, it's like, wow, I passed this like five years ago.
Well, this is disappointing.
Yeah, you don't got a whole lot going on here.
Maybe it wasn't as tough for you to get to where you got to as it was.
for me. Well, and the thing is so
he, you know, he hasn't essentially
done anything as far as, like, invading anyone
yet, but he knows essentially that
there's going to be some blowback
between, like, Britain, uh,
France, uh, possibly the United States,
like, we're still the fucking ocean
away and everything. And
so he basically, you know, when he's
building up for war and everything,
he understands also
through some of the military commanders that know about
actual fucking, like, war.
I think he listens to them enough. I think he listens to them
enough to where it is
he knows he needs to have some
support. He can't count
exclusively on Francoe yet because he doesn't know
how that's going to go and he knows that
he might be weak essentially from you know the Mediterranean
strategically. He knows
that part of his plan of course is to fucking invade
Russia. He knows he's going to need support for that
too and he knows that there's somebody that
he needs to partner up with. Mussolini
is really kind of the only choice in this scenario
because he's also a dictator
and feels like he has
some type of similarities with him
He had to get there somehow.
Exactly.
Like he has,
maybe I can learn something from this guy.
Yeah.
So Hitler orders preparations for war in the East by 1938.
So they're just fucking building up armor this entire time.
We stepped up that four years timeline pretty quick.
Mm-hmm.
And then no later than 1943 is when they want to go ahead and invade the East.
He appoints himself war minister in early 1938,
despite his only soldiering experience literally being as a messenger,
a bike fucking messenger, however they traveled around in World War I.
Yeah, pretty, pretty bold move.
And I don't know if that speaks more to like his megalomania or just the fact that he really only had one plan.
And that was just what he wanted to go with.
Well, like, once he establishes himself as war minister getting to, you know, Night of the Broken Glass,
I think once he sets those plans in motion and then the gears are working to get them built up for war,
he then can focus his attention on this other shit.
And so you get what's called, is it Crystal Knocht?
Crystal Knotched, yeah.
I almost think just with you saying that maybe after this all happens
and he does become the war minister and they kind of have their eyes on some prizes,
they needed something big to really distract those war correspondents and the other people from seeing this.
That's true for the buildup, yeah.
It could have been a smokescreen.
I mean, this is like the worst smokescreen possible.
The night of the broken glass is from November 9th.
November 10th in 1938
Jewish homes, hospitals,
schools, everything is just sacked and
demolished. Synagogues are fucking
completely like torched. 267
synagogues are torched over 7,000
Jewish businesses are destroyed
30,000 Jewish men
are arrested and sent to the
concentration camps. They sit
Oh shit. Oh my god, that was a bad bubble.
You sound like Patrick Mahomes right there.
Is that what it was?
Hey, everybody.
They said that by the time Crystal Noct was over, that someone in every Jewish family in Germany had had a male of their family arrested.
Just an insane amount.
And of course, they were all shipped off to these concentration camps.
Officially, again, 91 Jewish people were murdered.
New estimates just going back and looking through, and not to mention the people that then took
their lives after they realized kind of where they were.
New estimates are in the hundreds.
I still feel like that's low with 30,000 being arrested and as many, you know, synagogues
businesses were destroyed.
Someone comes in and out just a voice protest and they're getting fucking shot.
Well, and just to think about the livelihoods of how many families were ruined, 7,000 businesses
were destroyed.
7,000, there were that many businesses that were owned by Jewish people.
Well, that had to have been the majority, or if not all of them.
I mean, your whole...
This is obviously planned for a long time.
Yeah.
The way that it was, you know, ex-cut and everything like that.
It had obviously been in the works for a long time.
Like you said, I think he just had certain things.
He had a psycholist, and he had to cross certain stuff,
and he'd crossed off the fucking war minister.
He's like, what's next?
And it was like, Crystal Noct.
And he was like, fuck yes.
Oh, yeah.
Even before this, the thing that I really had not...
never heard about.
Any Jewish people that were moving out of Germany had to pay an immigration tax.
And that immigration tax would be on basically any asset that they had.
And it was an extremely high tax that just made it almost impossible for a family to move
out of the country.
With anything maybe but traveling with the clothes on their back.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So just that get out.
We don't want you here.
well, if you're going to leave, we're going to take all your shit before you leave to make it impossible to want to leave.
So these people were just in a no-win situation.
And when Crystal Knock kicks off and it happens, it's just like the last straw really of a major list of shit that was done to them.
And it's just the beginning.
This is literally just the beginning, essentially, of the rounding up.
Like, the other stuff has been, like, light and basically just, like, public persecution, things like that.
This is literally now, like, your freedom is being taken away from your life.
is being taken away from you. And this doesn't stop. This kind of thing doesn't stop,
not just in Germany, but any of the countries that they're going to go ahead and occupy and take
over, this is going to be, it's going to repeat itself. The version of it is going to occur in all
of those different countries. They realize as they're getting up for war, hey, you know,
Hitler knows that at some point he's going to be going against Russia. That's where he's going to be
expanding to. So what's on the other side of Russia? Well, why don't we go ahead and make an alliance
with Japan. So they go ahead and get that started in 1938 with the intention. It's kind of twofold for Hitler.
One, he understands at a certain point once this war kicks off, the United States is going to come in.
But if he can somehow distract them and give them something else to do, they have to then split their resources and split their forces.
He sees Japan as an opportunity to go ahead and occupy the United States in the Pacific Theater.
On the other side, too, he sees as an opportunity because Japan is essentially close to where they can get into Russia.
through either, you know, China, the Koreas, that kind of area.
They've already had these conflicts with Russia before.
Exactly. And they had won.
He passed it off because here's the thing.
This guy's preaching pure German, Aryan blood, all that kind of shit.
And now he's talked so much shit about like the subhumans that are not Germans.
Now he's doing this with Japan.
And he's like, no, the Japanese are just like the German people, like a strong storied history and like a nationalistic sense of pride.
and they've never lost a war in like 3,000 years,
their empire's never lost.
So he's using this basically to say,
well, I can at least pull some shit from Russia
when they invade that way.
And then, you know, it'll be easy for me
to take over my territory in Russia.
So he's just using these as pawns.
Yeah. He has no intention of, you know,
if they want to keep a piece of land over there
that's not going to bother him,
maybe he'll have to do that later.
But he understands that these are just tools
for him to use.
Well, and this makes Mussolini so jealous.
Mussolini is not a real big fan.
Used to be the bell to ball and now there's this new fancy new toy.
Yeah, it sort of turns him off to the point where he doesn't sign into the alliance with Japan for a ways after that.
I don't know if it's bitterness.
Yeah, like you say, maybe he's not the new kid on the block anymore.
So he's kind of taken some umbrage with that.
But it just, it's such a, all these steps are.
so predetermined. Like you said, pointing all that
stuff out with just how strategically
important Japan was
finding
other places to have kind
of those same feelings, that nationalism
and all that kind of stuff. I don't think
they were a
they didn't
have a dictator, but
they kind of had enough in common
to where the Japanese were like, yeah, we can do it.
The Japanese had the emperor.
Is that a dictator?
Oh, he's the god.
Okay, so yeah
He's literally their god
Remember we were talking about during Korea
How the reason that like Douglas
When he took the picture of them
He wanted to portray him as a man
But he was literally they couldn't take him out
He was their figurehead and God
That's why they had to leave him in
So yeah I mean there's
I mean Hitler had to look at that
And be like oh I want to be that guy
Could be yeah
He was building himself toward that
He definitely would have seen himself that way
Well on the 12th of March
He finally makes his first
Big military type move
And he basically
rolls the 8th Army of the German
Vermeacht across the border into Austria
and they're basically just
greeted like heroes. Now
here's the thing. I mean you can talk
about this is during a lot
of these like documentaries that you see
all of the footage that is actually
survived is stuff that was confiscated
from the Nazis at the end of the war.
So whenever you see these videos of the
Nazis rolling into these areas
these are areas both close to the German
border that have German people
and everything like that. Like I said, the whole
Austria thing when it got split up.
You know, those people, a lot of them kind of felt like they'd lost so much of their land.
The people that were there near the border were more likely to be supportive of the Germans
coming in and taking over.
So it's not like you're driving all the way through the fucking country and you're getting
fucking flags waved at you and cheers and everything like that.
They're being selective in what they're showing.
So when it's saying they drove in there to, you know, cheering crowds and flowers and Nazi
flags and everything.
that was just the area that they came into that was friendly to them and because of that they used that as an excuse to be like see see we're welcome here and Hitler always used this fucking excuse when it came to the world stage to justify his invasions he would always be like we've heard reports that german citizens or like german born peoples are being persecuted in Austria we need to go into I'm going in to help my German people and he would go in and instead of just being like oh I've helped the German people near the board he's like no
Nope, now that I'm here, we're just going to go ahead and take over and we're going to merge Austria back into the Third Reich.
How can I trust Austria if they treated them so poorly before? I must take them over so that doesn't happen again.
And they were already in the country at that point. And so basically it was a situation where Austria or the current government in Austria basically signed over the unification of Austria and Germany and made it official.
And so that was just something that they were forced into doing.
Yeah, he has his first, he has his first victory.
without firing a shot.
Yeah.
That's a good start for him to really feel the way.
It's also a surprise.
It wasn't like, hey, we're, you know, but they came in.
They're like, look, we've got the support of the people at that point.
The Austrian government's like, I can't get all my fucking troops together and all this kind of shit.
I'm not going to lead my people into war, so I guess we're just going to have to fucking capitulate.
And now I guess we're part of the Third Reich.
Yeah, you would just be leading your people into slaughter at that point, so you just, you don't have an option.
Well, now you've, now, you know, Hitler has crossed off that fucking thing off of his bucket list of uniting back the Austrian people with the greater, you know, German Empire, German Reich. That, you know, he did speeches about like that being the greatest moment in his life. You would think, okay, you, that was your plan to do that. So you're going to stop now, right? Well, no, it was so easy to fucking take over this country. You know what? I actually think over in Czechoslovakia, there's a bunch of ethnic German and what was it?
The Sudaten lands.
In the Sedaten lands, which was near the German border, I think, of Czechoslovakian.
And he's like, oh, you're never going to, you know, the League of Nations was like, hey, what the fuck are you doing in Austria?
That's all it was, is asking questions.
Like, hey, can you explain why you're in Austria?
And he's like, well, the German people were here being persecuted here.
So I came in to help them and, you know, to establish there might have been an uprising.
We were helping to go ahead and control that.
They wanted us there.
Like, I, okay, we might have to investigate this.
and he looks at Czechoslovakian, he's like, well, shit, that worked before.
He's like, guess what? You guys are never going to guess.
There's people, ethnic Germans in the sedaten lands, who are being persecuted by essentially
the Czechoslovakian government, and we need to go in there and save them.
We don't have time for the League of Nations to step in.
I'm on my way already.
And so he has his eyes on Czechoslovakia, which at this point, there's no excuse for that.
He's just looking for these pockets of German people as an excuse.
it's like, why was it never be like, hey, if you want them to live there, go fucking help them move there.
Yeah.
If you want them, yeah, like, you don't just get the land that they're fucking on.
This was the land that was taken from you for losing the fucking, the last war.
You can give these people German citizenship and just move them into your country.
You don't have to take over where they are.
You can just take them back if you think they're being persecuted.
But ultimately, that's just not the plan.
That's not, Hitler's radar wasn't just.
Austria and it's not just Czechoslovakia.
And now he turns his eyes to that
place he signed the non-aggression
pact with. The place that he, I think he's had his eye on
the most part for the entire time.
And this is going to be, essentially
this move is going to finally
fucking be the move too many.
Yeah. That is going to
actually officially lead us into World War II.
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