Historically High - Honor Roll: The Best and Worst of 2022 Part 1

Episode Date: January 4, 2023

Join as we wave goodbye and flip a gentle bird to 2022. This year had some ups, it had some downs, it had some inbetweeners you can't even remember. It was our first year without Betty White, and I'm ...not gonna hide it, it was rough. RIP Betty miss you girl. But that's not what you're here for, you are here to be entertained or mildly amused at least. Part 1 is gonna cover Best Movies, Best Shows, Worst Person , and Most Shocking Moment.Support the show Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:06 Oh, we made it. Ladies and gentlemen, we made it to the end of 2022. It's been a year. 365 long, interesting days. And we're here today to present the 2022 Honor Roll Awards. This is going to get a little fun. Like it a little serious, but mostly fun, because we just need to go over the awards that need to be handed out for just a wild year.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I think years have just kind of progressively. I think 2020 was probably like the wildest shit a year, and then we seemed to have maybe ratcheted things down a little bit. But it's interesting that it's almost like if one thing's not going bad, there's just another thing that pops up, or one thing is going forward. Something has to fill the void of shit. It's like trying to fill up a 24-hour news cycle. There's just always something goofy happening.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Trying to get some. I don't have to really face the board this one. I can't actually just face and talk to you. Oh, we can do a little kickback this time. So everybody go put on your Sunday best, throw on a nice dress, man or woman. Toxedo. Going to be passed out some rolling papers. Yep.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah, this is a cap and gown time. If you don't get high during our episodes, this might be the one. Well, here's the thing, too, is I know a lot of this stuff isn't going to be the most historically relevant when we look back at 2022. But here's the thing. We're looking back at not so much agent history, but very recent history to kind of take a lighthearted, not completely serious look at basically the last year. Some of this stuff is serious, but we had a couple rules because stuff would have probably gone off the rails. then we would have just been hard to get back on track. So we're not going after, we're not talking politics, right?
Starting point is 00:02:28 No. We're leaving that out of it so it's fun. Yeah, there's enough that happens around the world that's kind of goofy and fun and exciting. I mean, there's going to be some stuff that's sort of political, but it's just kind of quasi stuff that is either great or funny. So. And I will say this looking over the list. Yes, some of this stuff does cover different areas of the world,
Starting point is 00:02:51 but I feel like the crazier shit happens in our fucking backyard. Do I have to stick my finger in the... The electrician. Okay, here's the thing. The only reason I had the thing on was for the applause. All right, everybody gets one. Okay, that was my moly. This is my breakfast ball.
Starting point is 00:03:08 But, so what are we handing out awards for? Let's go through the list of awards. Yeah, there's really no rhyme to reason to this. Movie the year, because we both enjoy watching films, series of the year because everybody watches a series or two unless you're like super smart and you don't own a TV which I never bought that whenever somebody said that their family didn't have a TV. Worst person of the year. TV's like in an embarrassing amount of rooms in the house growing up.
Starting point is 00:03:35 TV in the kitchen. We had one in pretty much every room. Yeah, and in the kitchen because if you're in there cooking, you want to watch something. It was the small one that just sat on the counter and then you would just face it different way depending on who was watching it. Yeah, fantastic. That probably wasn't good. looking back on that.
Starting point is 00:03:50 We're both here. We're both fairly intelligent individuals, so it couldn't have been that bad. My eyes aren't square. That's true. We're going to do shocking moment because it seems like there's plenty of those. Biggest loss of 2022,
Starting point is 00:04:04 most historic moment of 2022. And to follow up with the loss, we had the biggest winner of 2022. So we can jump right in. It's going to be pretty heavily discussion-based. There's not a lot of fact to some of this stuff. Oh, this is zero fact. Some of these might be
Starting point is 00:04:21 some of these might be have facts in them and everything, but no, strictly opinion-based. So movie of the year, you know I just realized actually thinking about this? When the last time I went and saw it like a movie in the theater was, and it has been a while. You know, though, it's really... I like things getting back to normally.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Movie theater serve a purpose. Unfortunately, there's so many of them that it doesn't seem like that purpose. Like, they're going to go out of business eventually. It's just, it's going to happen. Moles are going to kind of be the same way. But there's certain movies that you do want to see in theaters. It's also kind of nice to like make dinner or order a pizza and then just shut off all the lights,
Starting point is 00:05:04 turn on the surround sound. Oh, get on the couch in like a heated blanket or just like in your, oh, yeah, God. Yeah, there's a reason why. But the thing is, too, is, and this is where we're going to get off the rails on this, because we're just talking about and reminiscing about crap. Last time I think. I think I was in a, you know, when you get the actual reaction in a movie theater of like a moment happening and there's an audible noise from the crowd, but you don't mind it because in your head, you may have just made that noise out loud too. Yeah, it could fit perfectly into the movie.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Well, like, and just kind of geeking out, but I remember the last time I experienced that and it's going to be me thinking about if I'm ever going to experience that again was watching Endgame. And it's the moment where Cap picks up the hammer. And when he picks it up, it doesn't show who's picking up. The hammer just lifts. And you hear the crowd go. And it's like a, like the whole room, that sudden inhale. And the only other guy that's ever picked up throws hammer. It was shocking.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Throws it. And then it comes back and catches it. And it was just like the cheer. But I was, I don't know, it's weird to kind of think that if movie theaters do go away, that there's not going to, to get that feel, you're going to have to invite over like, stop, you know, everyone from watching a movie, gather people at your house, and hope that you can kind of recreate that.
Starting point is 00:06:24 That might be a moment that people have to reminisce about. Like a wrestling pay-per-view. Yeah, hey, you guys remember movie theaters? Like, what are theaters? Well, there were these big places where they showed movies when they first came out. Oh, they couldn't just, you couldn't just stream them? Like, right when they came out?
Starting point is 00:06:41 No. I think there'll always be, like, a movie theater to some extent, it'll just be more like boutique showings. As long as our generation might be the last generation that keep those open for. Well, yeah, and it may not be like the 21 cinemas or like 10 cinemas, whatever the big places are. Yeah. It's going to move to more of a model where you're getting dinner. Like we have a couple of them where you can go sit in the VIP section.
Starting point is 00:07:08 You can get food. You can get drinks. But they're going to be like special boutiques. And it's only going to be for dinner and a show. It's dinner during the show. Yeah. Yeah. And I honestly think this year, like, 2022 is kind of like the comeback of major movies.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I think these probably had some of the biggest box offices. One of the one on our list got filmed back in like 2018 or 2019. Did you know that? Yeah, and then they had to hold it off. We can talk about it right now because it's our third. It's our third, our consensus third place between both of us. Now, there are going to be one or two of these in which we actually differ on it because one of them is the series because we didn't watch. It's too hard to like line up series
Starting point is 00:07:46 Almost because there's so much Fucking stuff out there Yeah there's just so much content It almost has to be a personal preference Because you're just you're never going to see everything That everybody else sees But movies we made sure we saw these ones So coming in third
Starting point is 00:08:00 I got some issues with this movie Which is why it's in third But it still made the top three And that's going to be I feel like this is going to be Is this a hot take? Because I feel like a lot of people were saying this was better than it was.
Starting point is 00:08:17 They loved it. Top Gun Maverick. Multiple times. I just, I get the whole allure of Top Gun. I'm not a huge Tom Cruise fan, so it doesn't feel quite like I had the buzz. Tom Cruise is an actor. He's so charismatic. He has that run in Mission Impossible and he does that weird, awkward Ethan Hunt run.
Starting point is 00:08:39 But you got to admit, Meyer, the man that does his own stunts. but yeah, there's outside of his movie career, you're just like, ugh. Odd duck, weird fella. Who was he, it wasn't Kate Hudson that he was married too forever.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Katie Holmes. Oh, Katie Holmes, that's right. What if, God, she got out of that? What if Tom Cruise
Starting point is 00:08:58 actually just isn't like participating in Scientology, he just quietly left and they're like, oh, he's like, I'm just not going to say anything, guys, but I'm just going to walk away from this
Starting point is 00:09:06 and just do my own thing. And they're like, okay, well, you're not going to like disparages. Like, no, if you guys just, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:12 don't mention it. don't do anything. I won't mention anything and we'll just part ways. He's like a Christmas and Easter Catholic. No, he doesn't even do that. He's just like, you know, I don't know. I gotta think he makes money off of it somehow. I've got to think Scientology pays him a stipend or something. Yes. He's got stock in that shit. Okay. What did you like about this movie? It's weird because like you say, it was filmed in 2018. And I even think that I maybe set a little pointer her last night, but Top Gun
Starting point is 00:09:45 Maverick feels like it should have been a sequel. Like, even though it was shot in 2018, everything about it felt like an old movie. Like, everything about it. I think Top Gun came out in 87, 88, maybe somewhere around that. This movie could have come out in 1990, and it would have felt probably the same as it came out this year. Like, it had that old kind of nostalgic feel.
Starting point is 00:10:08 There wasn't anybody that was too dressed up. Oh, um, Roosters. Miles Teller. Yeah, Miles Teller. Dreamboat. Very, very handsome kind of second leading man. I also felt like this was sort of Tom Cruise stepping on everybody else's career.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I'm not going to lie to you, man. Yeah. This was definitely a Tom. I understand it's called Top Gun Maverick. And maybe their intention is this was the movie of him leaving the role. And then the, you know, them taking over something like that. Miles Teller steps up for the next one. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:10:48 You're any of those actors and you're in a Topkin movie, everyone's just like, yes, Mr. Cruz, whatever you need, Mr. Cruz. Absolutely. Yeah. Like anything you need. I think the other thing, too, is one of the things I noticed is how, like, they appropriately aged up the love story. And what I mean by that is not the ages of the characters,
Starting point is 00:11:11 but more so, like, how the assets. actual like interaction like relationship would be like the the night that they finally you know she finally gets off the bike and she leaves her door open it comes in the scene doesn't go to like a sex scene it literally just goes to them like talking to each other did you notice that he doesn't have a shirt on and she's like fully dressed still i think no they just got done i think maybe she's the kind that keeps the top on and just does the bottom it felt so awkward and so odd but yeah it it It felt like a punched up adult love story, except for the fact that going by their timeline, he would have been back for like three days before they smashed.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Well, yeah, but they had dated, they had dated before. They had, but at the same time, it's like, that's a very quick re-entry. They seem to have hung out a lot in those three days. If I'm being honest, they seem to have, they were, think of it this way. There was like a football game that happened, like greased up football game when she was there at the beach. And then they hung out like three more times before that. So they were getting that. that time in. Here's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Spectacle-wise, the movie was great. It was fun to watch, especially that third act. But like, the fact that, like, they're having, like, the father-son, like, dynamic conversation as they're spinning down to the ground, like, oh, I'm better than you. And he's like, don't do it. It was just so heavy-handed that, like, yes, we get it. That's, we get it. That's goose. That's, to you, that's goose. That's the representation. you want to protect him and everything like that. And yeah, we get it, Miles Teller. You're upset at Tom Cruise because he didn't want you going to the Navy because guess what?
Starting point is 00:12:51 His best friend and your father died in the Navy. He's going to, and he promised your mom. He never tells you that, though. We're going to spoil two of the three of these movies. And I feel like the third one is just because it is so new. For almost all of 2022. Yeah, no, this one. If you haven't seen it, this isn't.
Starting point is 00:13:08 If this is when you're catching up, I'm sorry about ruining this movie. I'm not sorry You should have seen it by now It's available streaming You can stream this It's fucking everywhere Paramount Plus I think But
Starting point is 00:13:19 That whole dynamic Of the whole like family thing As far as like family But not family Will they won't they His love interest Obviously knows goose So that whole kind of factor
Starting point is 00:13:31 plays in when they have The heartfelt discussion One thing that shocked me When he first walks back onto the base And he sees the picture of Val Kilmer I saw his face It's like, holy shit. Val Kilmer looks really good in this movie.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And then later on, when you see him again, it's like, oh, they peeled off his face during the original movie and then waited this whole entire time and just slapped it over the plastic surgery face. Like, he looked bad. Oh, well, yeah, I mean, okay, so there's a Val Kilmer documentary, and I think it's just called Val. And I think I watched it like, maybe like six months ago. And he actually, so he can't even talk like that. He talks with the thing that he holds to his throat. He really has that issue? His throat cancer?
Starting point is 00:14:13 He did. I think he's in remission. But he is so skinny and stuff. A lot of that is like the CGI touchups to make his face look thicker and fuller. That's why he also was typing. And when he was moving his mouth, that was actually a computer putting his voice together to do that. He's not really speaking that. That's actually like they took all of his dialogue and stuff from other movies that they were able to compile and to be able to create.
Starting point is 00:14:38 those lines. Oh shit. Yeah. Okay. Odd that two of our movies have some odd, like weird typing in them, huh? Yeah. I, and come on, man. That guy's an admiral and you're still calling him ice. Like, his name's Tom. Like, at some point, you guys could have just like, you could call him Tom, or at least Ice Man. Yeah. His... Come on. But also, during the movie, Tom Cruise, I believe Val maybe says it too, but by the end of it, the kids, the recruits. the recruits are all calling a Mav when they're up in the planes too. Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Okay, here's my other problem. You just reminded me. Oh, the planes? Yeah. Why it looked like they were flying kites? No. The simple fact that the whole time that they're training, they're training and they have co-pilots,
Starting point is 00:15:27 the weapons officers behind them the entire time, spotting it and targets and everything like that. So they're training them, and then all of a sudden, when they're flying that final mission, they, like, Goose doesn't, or, Rooster doesn't have a co-pilot. They both didn't. Maverick and him didn't. Yeah, because they were the gunners. They were the second bomb. I know. They were bomb droppers. I know, but why would you train that whole time? Because the person also in the back is also like your navigator and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:15:55 when you're flying. So like, why would you train some, like, just, I understand it's ridiculous premises as it is because like the whole mission flying under the, you know, 100 feet through the canyon, flip over upside down into the volcano, firing. And 10 minutes and 30. Yes. But the concept of like, hey, we're going to train you in two weeks to do this stuff you've never done. And we're also going to take away that guy that you're always used to flying with and you're going to have to do this just, you know, with a plane flying behind you too. Yeah. And I mean, technically the only one that didn't have that anymore was Miles Teller.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Well, here's the other thing is that they did that because they couldn't have like if Miles Teller came back to save Tom Cruise and the Saccharacter. Christ, they'd be like, what do you fucking do? Dude, you just, your co-pilot's probably like, I don't want to fucking separate. Yeah, it just makes, yeah. Because then when Miles Teller comes back and gets shot down, he would have, you know, his co-pilot could have been risking himself too. For as many issues as I had with it, with it being as Tom heavy as it was, and the fact that he just kept having to do like dumb over the top Maverick shit to
Starting point is 00:17:03 continue to either prove himself or keep his jobs, like the 10 G's thing or the 10. Is it just really easy to steal a plane? It must be, because they snuck behind enemy lines. I love the... Okay, here's the thing. I think about that, though. Almost at every point, Maverick is, like, even in this movie, he leaves with the plane early before the general gets there the first time.
Starting point is 00:17:25 And then the other time he goes out and he's, like, supposed to be grounded. And by the time they pick him up, he's already doing the canyon run. He doesn't like the two minutes and 15 seconds. It's like, he has... That's his superpower. It's great. flying, but he also is really good at stealing a plane. That's why when Rooster was
Starting point is 00:17:41 like, we're going to steal that, and he's like, oh yeah, I got this. He's like, we'll just be able to fly. I don't know if it runs. I don't know if it has fuel. I steal these fucking things all the time. Nobody guards these things, apparently. It's on a base. That's far as we need to go. Look how far out
Starting point is 00:17:57 on the corner it is. Just this one bunk. No one's going to be paying attention. Yeah, we can start this fucking jet. For as much as we're kind of ripping on it, it was a very entertained. I was entertained. It made the top three. Yeah. I mean, I do get the buzz about it. I get the excitement. I think we might pick things apart a little bit differently than most people just because it, there's so much of a suspension of relief, which is funny because it should be the most
Starting point is 00:18:22 believable one of the three that we picked. But it's just not. It's just so unbelievably crazy. And that's what you want in an action movie. And like I say, I think that's where it kind of got the 80s feel to it. It was it just like, what the fuck are we doing? Yeah. but all in all I mean I think it deserves to be up here it grossed a fucking ton oh that's the other thing the first one was fairly ambiguous
Starting point is 00:18:47 about who the enemy was right no no no first one was it was very clear I think that it was the Russians because they talked about mix it was mixed mix okay well this one we get one mention of Iran when they talk about the nuclear base and that's the last time it's mentioned
Starting point is 00:19:03 where it's it's a the term they use for it makes it sound like it's an ambiguous military force that's based like a splinter cell group or some shit like that. Yeah, I like how they do that. But they just so happen to be able to build this uranium enrichment plant under, in like this dormant volcano. Well, in Iran
Starting point is 00:19:19 and there's snow everywhere. It's like, Iran has snow? This is a thing? Well, yeah, because I think part of like Russia touches Iran, doesn't it? And that's it could, maybe, yeah. I just found it funny that they said Iranian one time during the whole thing. And then after that, we just, we knew
Starting point is 00:19:35 exactly who it was. And we weren't going to mention it again. Got it. We know who it is. All right. Moving on. So this was a tough decision between these final two, but consensus is second is the Batman. Yeah, I almost have to start with apologies. I think I've even said things on here. I didn't feel like this was going to be a great Batman. I kind of got brainwashed by Christopher Nolan and felt like his trilogy was just fantastic and it was kind of the Titties, Titties. I wasn't a real big sell on Robert Pattinson.
Starting point is 00:20:11 They definitely did a lot of touch up on Patinson's face to make him look older. I think he's only like 36 maybe, which... Do you think to make him look older? Yeah. He's supposed to be in his, like, 20s in the movie. Well, I just kind of noticed it when he shows up at the funeral for the... Oh, he's just supposed to look like shit because he fucking doesn't sleep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:31 And he doesn't give a shit with what he looks like. Okay, here, I love this movie. but the reason I think, you know, of course there's great things to love about this movie, but we have to also explain why it's in second. Yeah, I think there's kind of when we introduced the first, it'll kind of make more sense. The Batman as a whole, and we kind of just kind of talked about it a little bit. Batman in your head almost feels fantastical, like just with all the gadgets that they come up with. I think that's base.
Starting point is 00:21:00 I think the reasoning for that is because growing up, the Batman was more fantastical a little little bit. Like watching like Batman the animated series. That was a Batman that used the gadgets. And like, you know, he had the grapple gun. He, that's how he got everywhere. He just held it up and fired that thing and it connected with a building. And then he just shot off through the city. Like apparently gravity did not apply to him. He was not afraid of heights. Like, what, what are you grappling on to, man? It's like Spider-Man, where do the web go? That's true. But like this thing is like, Spider-Man, you could be like, well, the web might have stuck to a higher building or a crane. Batman, you're like, you're firing this at a cron-crow. Or you're breaking a lot of windows,
Starting point is 00:21:36 dude and sometimes it would show it go over like a flagpole like 50 stories up and you're like what you hit in this flagpole every time and that's going to hold you it's not going to bend under the pressure and you're going 50 floors up what are you going to do up there well and also you look at like the the batmobile has had just amazing changes over time just with what it looked like and kind of in the how did you like explain how you felt when you saw it like fire up and you heard that sound. First of all, how does he even get to the Batmobile? Yeah, no, it's completely unexplained. But I thought about that for two seconds, but as soon as you hear the noise and you see it shoot out, and it's, I think it's like a, they based it on like a late 60s charger. And you hear the noise, it sounds like a
Starting point is 00:22:21 vehicle. It just sounds like a supercar. Yeah. And you see it. And it's always kind of in the shadow, so you don't get the full layout and look of it. But when you see the front and you see the slanted back window, you're like, that's a charger. That's just, that's exactly what it is. And And it fits like that kind of reality motif of like he may be young, but he also knows that this car is cool as shit. And I'm sure that's how it was designed. Oh yeah. It's just built to fucking hunt something down. Yeah, dude, it was so cool.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Yeah, I had my reservations about, you know what? I actually not so much about like him as Batman because as soon as like the Heath Ledger's thing, I think that like qualmed a lot of people's doubts about weird casting for me. movies and sometimes we've been burned and everything but um yeah as like batman i think robert patson did did great as batman and everything but and i get why his bruce wayne isn't really like he's year too badman so he's still so focused on like fighting crime that he doesn't realize that he has to also have like a public persona that you can do good that way too so i'm expecting that to kind of transition especially when at the end of this one he sees himself like he can
Starting point is 00:23:33 inspire. I think seeing him take a more active role, like as the Bruce Wayne character, would be kind of cool in the next one. I hope they bring the Selena Kyle actress back. She was, they, very hot together. Both of them were very good looking people. She played a very good role as Catwoman. Yeah, Zoe Cravitz. Yeah, she's a great actress. That was Zoe Cravitz? Yeah. Didn't she play Domino in Daredevil too, or no? Domino in Daredevil. Or, wow, not Daredevil. Oh, in Deadpool. Yeah. No, that was Zazi Zazi Beets.
Starting point is 00:24:11 That's the girl that's in Atlanta. Okay. Yes. Yeah, Zoe Kravitz played a phenomenal character. Like I said, very good looking, but just a very believable, just in her whole persona and the fact that she was willing to kill people when Batman wasn't. The fact that the bad signal seemed to stay on for most of the movie, but somehow that was him and commissioner, or I guess not commissioner Gordon. Like who, like at no point does any other cop, like, where the fuck is this light coming from? We're not questioning that building.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Or is like one of the police helicopters that are flying like, hey, we got this big fucking floodlight down here at this building shining this like weird signal into the sky. You want to get someone to check on it? Maybe we look at that. Yeah. And it's just always like a completely unconstructed building for just the perpetuity of time for whenever Batman's needed. I, the, the permits are taken forever for this building. What about fucking Colin Ferrell as the penguin? I had to look it up because he just his demeanor in his face was just he was a great penguin.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Oh yeah. And just the whole idea, I, you never watched, um, Gotham on Fox, did you? Yes. You did? Yeah. Did you like it? Like early on I watched, um, I stopped watching it after probably like season two. The dude that played, yeah, there's just so much you can do about like,
Starting point is 00:25:32 If you don't have Batman, it's hard to, like, explain why you have these characters in Gotham. And yeah, Jim Gordon can do a lot. But no, no, I realize that that's the whole point. But to already have, like, a lot of these characters when Batman's, like, like, 13 or 14 or something like that, are you comparing what we got in the penguin? Like, as the penguin in that series. Oh, it's the little skinny guy that's, like, whiny. But he plays a great character. this one, he was just so much, Colin Farrow,
Starting point is 00:26:03 there's so much more of a mobster. Like it was, you felt that. Which that's how he is in the comics. Yeah. Well, in the comics, I would say yes, but then you get, like, DeVito that used to hang out in the sewer and all that shit. Yes, okay. That was a little bit more odd.
Starting point is 00:26:15 This guy felt like you didn't want to cross him. Every other penguin kind of felt like, oh, he's called the penguin, like how dangerous could be. This one, though, the dude felt like he had some pole, and he was an exciting character. I want to find out what? He's getting an HBO series. Is he? Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Okay. So HBO has like a deal to develop like DC series. So that's going to be kind of cool. Like Marvel and Disney, Disney, the Marvel Division. I think honestly too, DC might have come out on top this year. Because Marvel movies, I don't know if it was just the fatigue of all the Avengers and everything finally catching up. I don't think it's that. I think it's that the new characters aren't catching on like they hope they would.
Starting point is 00:26:52 True. But even like the second Black Panther just didn't hit kind of the right spots. well I mean you're you lose Chadwick yeah that's that's very tough but yeah I I think this was DC's best showing in a decently long time yeah agree probably since
Starting point is 00:27:10 uh... Mamoa in well the whole universe is getting reset so as soon as the flash movie comes out that's supposed to reset everything because James Gunn the Guardian of the Galaxy guy he is now him and another guy are now the studio heads for DC Studios so they're wiping
Starting point is 00:27:28 the slate clean, keeping a few of the series. Like, did you watch Peacemaker? Yeah, fantastic. I think they might be keeping that together because that's James Gunn is the one that did that and the newer suicide squad. Okay. Yeah, I take that back then because I think Peacemaker was this year, right? It had to. I want to feel, yeah, it might have been. And it was fantastic. The song, do you really want to do you really want to taste it? And the whole, I would watch that whole dance scene the entire, every single episode. Seena's character was great too. It was a great Peacemaker. That was maybe his best performance in a movie, or I guess a show ever.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yeah. All right. So let's get to number one. I feel like we're... Yeah, we're going to lead into it perfectly because as great as Cina was in Peacemaker, Batista, another wrestler, was fantastic in this movie. I think he's a better actor than Sina. I was going to say there's been some stuff coming out like overall the best wrestler turned actor is actor, not technically movie star, but actor is Dave Bistice, which is crazy. Yeah, great for Drax. He was a great character playing Drax.
Starting point is 00:28:32 He's played some complex characters, too. Yeah, it's not just funny guy. It's not just strong, tough guy. It's, you see a lot of, he played a pretty good role in this. So, yeah, I mean, so everybody else is caught up. Bravo to Netflix.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah. The Netflix original film, which isn't that fucking crazy? It's scary as we're gonna, we get so many fucking good, we're gonna get so many good movies. We're going to get Apple movies. We're going to get...
Starting point is 00:28:59 This is... I will say this. There's so much shit to try to keep track of and watch. It's almost overwhelming. But the simple fact that streaming is happening
Starting point is 00:29:09 means that like, who would have fucking thought we would have got some of like the movies or TV series that we would have had? They're so fringe out on like the edges of these popular culture like phenomenons.
Starting point is 00:29:20 They're like, we just want more. And they're like, we're going to fucking give you more. HBO was kind of the head nut in this. Showtime did theirs. Cinemax kind of did theirs, but HBO with the series that they came out with so long before streaming was ever like
Starting point is 00:29:35 a thing, they really kind of laid the blueprint for everybody. Netflix, though, here bringing it home. So Glass Onion, I had no fucking clue about this movie. I saw that it was trending and everything like that. You mentioned when I asked you about your top movie for the year and now I feel bad I waited this long
Starting point is 00:29:51 to watch the movie. They did a very cool thing. It's a fairly new movie. I think it came out right around. maybe Thanksgiving, maybe a little bit before. But what they did was they had limited run in theaters before they dropped it off at Netflix. So Netflix was in theaters
Starting point is 00:30:07 as a production company, which is very cool. But part of the fun of Glass Onion is there's just the biggest turn and kind of the biggest diversion in the middle of it. And it's just basically the easiest way to explain it if you haven't seen it yet. It's like playing clue,
Starting point is 00:30:22 except for it's an incredible story. Except instead of, you solving the mystery, you're watching Mr. Benoit Blanc solve the mystery. Yeah, and even with Benoit, you're right there along with him. Like, you're trying to piece together everything that he's saying. It's very tricky when
Starting point is 00:30:39 you're stoned. And watching this, like, because, yeah, you think he's pulling one over on you. But, yeah, fantastic character, fantastic cast. Edward Norton, Kate Hudson, DeBatista. James Bond. Daniel
Starting point is 00:30:55 Craig. I'm trying to think of the other people. A few actors that I wasn't were of. I already said Kay Hudson. There's a girl that played an Iron Fist that plays Kay Hudson's assistant. I can't remember what her name is and then a few other people. But yeah, great cast, great, very simple premise. Revenge.
Starting point is 00:31:12 A revenge mystery. And then sweet, sweet redemption in the end. You can see the millionaire get shit on. And then, but they peel the woolback. They don't wait till the end of the movie. Here's the brilliance I think of it. They let you in on it. halfway through the movie. So then you get to be in on it for the rest of the movie. And it's more
Starting point is 00:31:33 suspenseful that way. The stakes are higher. So what, you know, if you haven't, okay, if you haven't seen Glass Onion, pause. Okay, so you've watched it? Okay, cool. So now we have to watch Knives out. We haven't watched Knives Out yet. So we both got to watch that. But Benoit Blanc, the world's greatest detective. I didn't know where this was going. when we first met him in the bathtub. Well, and especially the cool part about it was this was, I think they said in the beginning, it was like May 17th, 2020. So right as a shit kicked off for COVID.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I love how they just cleared that up within the first 15 minutes of the movie. And they're like, in your mouth, it's in your mouth. You're good. COVID was a huge storyline in this just because of the way it kind of worked. Because Benoit being the world's greatest detective, as soon as COVID hit, he was just out of work. He was a bored guy. He was, spending an odd amount of time in the bathtub for some reason.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I hope knives out kind of clears that up a little bit, the first one. But he was... He has to have a case. This is his way of coping. But he has to have a complex case because it shows him in the beginning when he's playing the murder mystery with the other, with fucking Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and a bunch of other famous people. Natasha, whatever, Nate is from like American Pie and Orange is the New Black.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I remember. Yeah. And he's constantly losing to these people in this online murder mystery game. And he makes reference to it multiple times to write it. That he sucks in the game clue. Yeah. Because it doesn't make any sense. There's no rationale.
Starting point is 00:33:01 It's too simple. Yeah. So anyway, so long story short, this, basically you have these people that started a tech company and they had this group of friends. They all get invited out to the main guy's island for like this yearly vacation. Edward Norton's Island. Edward Norton's Island.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Benoit Blanc, Daniel Craig, somehow gets invited. And part of the mystery is who invited him because the guy sent only limited invitations to just his friends in these riddles. And so you think that's part of the mystery. He then spoils the actual murder mystery game that the guy sets up. Within about five minutes. Oh my God, that scene where he's just explained. I thought he was doing a bit for a second where he was trying to like get into the game and show that he was into it.
Starting point is 00:33:44 And then literally just solving it. I was like, when he mentioned the crossbow, I'm like, it's not going to wear. And then it hits. He's just sitting there as the blood. And then basically. he then kind of explains through his powers of observation about all these people he's invited all these people are like beholden to him he's given the money he has influence of them or it's like done something wrong to them and one of the people was his ex-business partner that him and all the other
Starting point is 00:34:11 ones screwed out of essentially her idea billions of dollars billions of dollars in her idea so she ends up showing up for like the first time out of any of these little trips she's always invited apparently though which is weird but that's why explains that she can show up And through Benoit Blanc, you know, seeing these people travel out on the boat with them and everything, he kind of hears and overhears things kind of observing around that everyone has a grievance and would be better off if, what's the main guy's name, Miles? Yeah. Edward Norton Miles was dead and starts to kind of like turn it into trying to find an actual murderer. And so you're like, okay, this is interesting enough. The plot itself at that point was like, cool, it's going to be a murder mystery to find out who's going to try to kill him.
Starting point is 00:34:56 it's set you know what you're looking out for and you think that that's what's going to happen and then literally halfway through the movie instead of waiting for the huge twist at the end it does its big twist in the middle when it explains that the whole thing is actually a trap set to go ahead
Starting point is 00:35:16 and out Edward Norton or one of these friends as the killer of this woman that or Andy was her name Andy that had helped start the tech company. Her twin sister is actually playing her. She actually died like three or four days previous or something like that.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I think it was about two weeks. Okay. And it's been kept out of the news. They've been keeping it out of the news. She went to Benoit Blanc and was like, I know these people had something to do because my sister, it was staged to look like a suicide. My sister wouldn't have done this.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And basically gives Benoit Blanc the entire story. And you're learning about all this backstory halfway through the movie. As soon as she gets shot. And so you learn that Benoit Blanc and her have been working together this entire time she's been posing as her sister. So it lets you in on what the twist is going to be. And so normally you'd be like, that fucking ruins the movie. You just let me know what the twist is. But then there's still who killed the sister because they're not quite sure who it was.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Because different people could have been at the crime scene and they've given clues and everything. Yeah, it's just like a retwist on the initial twist because you're trying to figure out who had the motive to kill Andy. yeah just the whole thing was just brilliantly done and like I say you as soon as you find out kind of the first twist and I went into it knowing that there was a twist and it was going to kind of be a murder mystery so I'm kind of trying to pick out like can I figure this out and most movies you can usually sniff out of twist come and M-night had a few of them I mean notable ones you can think of is like um I I miss the days dude because I have a horrible habit of getting so excited to see something that if I'm not able to see it when it's released I'm like, I got to know what happens in it. Like, I'm just so, I want, if I'm really into something, I got to have that information. And then it ruins a lot of like what could be, I still enjoy it immensely, but I can ruin it for myself.
Starting point is 00:37:09 That's why I do like when stuff, I find a show that doesn't have all of its seasons out when I'm watching it as it comes out because it makes me wait. As much as I hate that, because when I get to a show that I really like and I'm in the first season, I was like, well, I can watch an episode an hour, but I can see what's coming up in the episode. And I start looking and then I feel like almost lose interest in it. I didn't know anything about Glass Onion. So watching it the whole time, I'm just like, oh, I don't know what's happening. And I missed, it made me realize that that's what I do to other stuff. So like with knives, I'm not even going to, I want to just watch it and and figure that. I don't want to be better about that.
Starting point is 00:37:44 But yeah, just it was a, I spent a lot of time thinking, I'm like, how many people did it take to write this? Because if this is like, can you imagine sitting in the residence from? Like, what happens next? And you're literally just piecing this together to all be cohesive. but then tie back into, like me and you talked about, did you go back and try to remember what you saw when it started doing flashbacks? Did you rewind back to that point?
Starting point is 00:38:05 Because I'm wondering if you won't rewind it, if he really does the cup switch, or if that was a separately filmed stuff that was then placed in there, or if it even showed that scene. It was just something that happened kind of really close off screen. I didn't go that far, but, yeah,
Starting point is 00:38:21 I got done with it, and I was like, that is just like, it was really, the dialogue was excellent, everything that happened in it and it was just like, that's fucking good, a good just writing. A good script, a good premise, that's, it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:38:37 If you haven't seen it, watch it. That lays so much into the predictability factor going back to third place, going back to Top Gun. There's a point where you're watching him train the pilot and the girlfriend even mentioned it, she goes, so do you think he's going to choose Miles Teller and then who's going to be the other one? And I go, I don't know, I guess we'll have to see.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And you think it's going to be the cocky brash dude and somehow have to work together. And then she goes, you think it's going to be Tom Cruise? I was like, no. And as soon as I said, no, I mean, I was like, it's top good Maverick. It's going to be Tom Cruise. Yeah. You just know. Because he has nothing to lose also.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Like, it makes sense that if he came down to it, he could sacrifice himself. He could go out into Blaze of Glory. So you know 45 minutes into the movie that he's going to be doing the final mission. Yeah, but you're not interesting. At that point, though, you're in it to see if he, what happens. does Maverick survive? How does he get to ride off into the sunset to Kenny Loggins danger zone? Yeah, it's very true.
Starting point is 00:39:33 It was just very predictable. Glass onion, I couldn't predict shit. I thought I had it. You'd think that you pick up on little things and then once the first twist happens, it's like, ah, fuck, okay. Well, this is completely different than anything that I thought was going to happen. You think Edward Norton's going to die the whole entire time. It doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:39:49 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to move on to series of the year. And I understand we've been on movies for roughly. almost 40 minutes at this point. So that should be the longest one that we do. But anyway, strap in ladies and gents, this might be a multiple listener. Maybe when you're on your way to work, going back home, on your way to work the next day,
Starting point is 00:40:07 going back home. We're going to entertain you for a few days. We're going to try to do that. It's the recap of an entire year. Come on. It's going to take a little bit. Here you go. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Series, TV series of the year. Now, because here's the other thing, too, because we haven't seen some of these of each others. It'll be a quick discussion. You can just say what you'd like. about it and then we can just move on. So for you, what would have been to your third place? My third place, personally, my third place probably would have been peacemaker.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Just because it was kind of a fun, excuse me, spin on the superhero movie and being a wrestling guy. John Cena was a little after my like childhood of watching wrestling. And I kind of tend to go. He kind of relieved that old guard that you kind of grown up with and like, You were accustomed to the attitude era. He ushered in a completely different era of wrestling. So it was nice to see him play a different character than his actual persona as a wrestler. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:10 It's just like a down out of work, just got released from prison, had to go back to his trailer. Like just the whole idea of his dad being the worst person on the planet. Oh, yeah. Raising him to kind of be morally questionable. Excuse me, but at the end of the day, he's. still has to pull through. I thought the whole character set up was great.
Starting point is 00:41:35 His dad being the white dragon was a fucking trip to see how far into clansmanism they win. It's crazy, but if you really think about it, there would at some point in this world of superheroes and supervillains. They already are fucking the villains
Starting point is 00:41:50 of the world. Everything. So why wouldn't they in some aspect be, you know, the supervillains as well or have their own like super, you know, villain representative. No, Peacemaker wasn't, yeah, it was an excellent. The, I'll put it even in my fourth place, but just the theme alone and the dance that might be the top credits I've ever seen, opening credits for a show.
Starting point is 00:42:14 That's true, him dancing in his skimmies and just being a monster mountain of a man. We talked, I think, a couple episodes ago about how seen his size is now. Yeah. In that movie, he was full, full juice, full, full. ruined it out, just a monster of a man. I think when he, when he loses weight, the first place he loses weight is his neck and face. Because the rest of his body, it like is so fucking just muscle.
Starting point is 00:42:39 So artificial almost. Exactly. It's like, no, this is partially plastic at this point, bro. It's coming out of your face in your fucking neck first. So that's why it even looks like he's kind of like stretched out a little bit. Yeah, you lost 10 pounds. Unfortunately, it was all in your face and neck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:55 So that would be my third place. just quick second place. I'll do my third. I'll go back and forth. Just so we're not, yeah. I'll go House of the Dragon is my third. And I like this show.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I watched it either the night that it was on. Yeah, most of the time the night was it, maybe the next night. So I was like, stayed with it. A lot of births. A lot of really, I talked to you about this just a second ago, but just an excessive amount of C-sections.
Starting point is 00:43:25 and stillbirths, people dying in childbirth, being burned alive in childbirth by a dragon. Huh? Yeah, just a lot. Someone getting their face punched in and just into a pulp. I mean, Game of Thrones really prepares you for a lot of stuff, but I feel where Game of Thrones had it right was they did give you a little bit more of the sexual side of it. Not to sound like a pervert, but I mean, that aspect is much more enjoyable than seeing someone get cut open to save
Starting point is 00:43:56 a child. That's not being a pervert. And I'm not saying that's not worth it to save child. What I'm saying is this is fucking medieval times. So it's not like everything. The birthing process back then is not a... I'm not even shit new. This is one season so far of this show. No less
Starting point is 00:44:12 than four disgusting pregnancy related. I've seen birth. It can be beautiful. It's powerful. I didn't go down there. I was in the room and I was very overwhelmed with all my feelings one time. But what I'm saying is,
Starting point is 00:44:29 is I don't feel like this is an accurate representation of what happened in this show. Because it was terrifying and I had to look away. But yeah, four out of ten, come on. There's ten episodes? Yeah. That's too much. If you had 20 episodes, it's too much. One out of every five is too much.
Starting point is 00:44:46 We get it. We get at birth in this land is hard. Bad times. We are completely understanding of this. No need to keep proving it to us. All right, number two. Dragon should be the scariest part of it. Yeah, and I, and you know what, it wasn't bad.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And it's doing an okay job of wiping out season eight of Game of Thrones. It has potential, but we'll see where it goes. So my number two, excuse me, I think it was fairly decently well received. The bear. And being somebody who really enjoys cooking, I've never worked a line in a kitchen. anything like that. But I've seen the previous is the one about is, does he own the place? So basically quick rundown of it.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Chicago. Yeah. In Chicago, roast beef stand, obviously, big, big sandwich there. So they put the jardiner and stuff and mix that stuff in with it. Yeah, and you've got the hot Italian beef that's cooked all day long and sliced up for sandwiches. And excuse me, the way it's all set up is kind of the family dynamic. of it is you have the main character, worked in Michelin Star
Starting point is 00:45:58 Restaurants, his whole career basically and his brother who ended up being a very heavy drug addict and got involved in some sort of not great things was the one that ran the family's Italian beef restaurant and it was just a shitty kind of broken
Starting point is 00:46:14 down place. He was behind about $300,000 and just taxes to guys that weren't really good people like not the bank. The bank he some money too. Yeah, the taxes. Vig. I don't know. I don't even know. I just hear that word. Yeah. So the juice is running.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Brother commits suicide. He comes back. The whole entire time that the brother owned it, all he wanted to do was they wanted to work together. Wouldn't let his little brother into the restaurant, told him to move on. He goes to all these ginormous great restaurants, works under Michel's research. So the little brother wanted to come back and work with him, but he wouldn't allow it. He wouldn't allow him to come back there and waste his time. Yeah. He wanted more of him. Gotcha. And so after he dies, he comes back, the younger brother inherits the restaurant. It's just a shit show the whole time.
Starting point is 00:47:02 He finds this very talented sous chef that comes in. She's just a really great character, but it's just a folly of things that happen to bad restaurants. And especially like in Chicago, there's episodes that are dedicated to wise guys work on the streets outside, getting in fights outside the restaurant, windows break, all that kind of stuff. but the main thing is the brother that takes over is just so fucking good at cooking he's just a decorated chef you see just the stress that it is
Starting point is 00:47:32 to be in a kitchen when you have tickets backing up nobody's listening to you online he brings in a brigade style kind of way to run the back and it's sort of like a French idea of everybody has their stations everybody works their stations rat tattooey style
Starting point is 00:47:47 yeah a little bit of redatooie style Yeah. That movie teaches you so much. And it was great. Like it was, oddly enough, it didn't have a lot of, like, food shit in it, but it was a decent representation of what a kitchen looked like back then. But all in all, just a great series watching Karm, the main character, and just the entire family, he's got a shitty cousin that is kind of keeping the business afloat while he's just failing at doing these different things. but the anxiety that it gives you to watch them cooking in the kitchen and I think this is something that a lot of people that I saw kind of referenced
Starting point is 00:48:24 you by the end of an episode you're damn near worn out and it just you feel everything you feel yourself start to sweat a little bit like god damn is it hot in here yeah you see just all these kitchen situations where like I said never working in a kitchen I'm not sure but you can I think because of your like that being one of your things, like food prep, food preparation, like you knowing the nuances of like when stuff has to be taken off and all that kind of stuff, I think that probably does cause you a level of stress that people watching it probably don't normally experience that don't know
Starting point is 00:49:01 what goes into all that. Yeah, you never think about the beginning of a shift before when you're doing your Mison Plaza and getting everything set up, you have to peel 100 onions. You have to go through and chop everything that you need so your prep stations are all ready to go. So just at a moment's notice, you can throw together, whatever. You're par cooking things. And then once that rush happens, one of the cool things is that I forgot what the game was. It's not Space Invaders, but it was like an old school arcade game. And they had like two of these machines left out of the entire city of Chicago. And so first thing that happens is he sets up a tournament to try to get people to come in. Yeah. And there's a line of like
Starting point is 00:49:39 300 people outside for the tournament. And they have to start cooking. His beef order doesn't come in. and they end up getting it a couple hours beforehand. So you feel like the squeeze and the rush of them trying to get everything prepared for this tournament to make money, to pay the winner's fee, but also to make enough money to keep the lights on. So it's very stressful, but just the whole thing is so good. The characters are just so great in it. So, yeah, number two is my choice for that, for sure. I'm trying to think now what I want to do for my second one.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Always Sunny had a great year. They did. They had a good comeback year. They had a great year. So I'm not going to go with them, but I just want to acknowledge that sunny had a great year. I'm only picking this one as the second year. It was because it was the first season it came out.
Starting point is 00:50:28 So I'm going to go with Rings of Power. And I'm someone who, of course, you can probably tell by now if you've listened to these podcasts, like the sci-fi nerd fantasy shit, like I love that stuff. So being able to kind of see, like, having known like the lore and everything behind like Lord of the Rings,
Starting point is 00:50:46 like there's so much more that happens before any of the movies than after. And there's like thousands of years of events that have happened that were written by Tolkien. Similarly on all that kind of stuff. But they only had rights to certain things. But they were able to take what they had the rights to and essentially craft this story that could last possibly for 10 seasons if they play correctly because it's thousands of years before. But you get to see these events that,
Starting point is 00:51:14 when you would read about them, you could only, because Tolkien wrote this so long ago, you know, none of it was really either sketched out or, I mean, he did some sketches and people have done like interpretations and stuff like that, but there's something about having read something. It was, I, more modern way would be like if you read like the Harry Potter books and then the first time you got to see Hogwarts and you're like, that's exactly what it looks like. Really? I thought with Potter with books and movie, it felt completely different. Well, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:51:42 What I'm saying is like if you were reading the books and it was describing, what it looked like when you saw it, you're like, I can see what they were describing and everything. Yeah. But like what I'm saying is that like being able to have all that lore and all that kind of stuff and then be able to see it like on screen. And they did tweak some characters and they tweaked some timelines, but it was cool just to kind of see like the villains that you are, you know, going to know at a certain point in the storyline and everything. But they have a lot more stuff to cover and they've been approved for like the next like two, maybe even like the third season. season, but... It felt like this is going to sound completely done when I say it.
Starting point is 00:52:20 It felt like you were watching a book. Yeah. I haven't seen the whole first season. It felt like you were watching a book based on another book. Yeah, but everything kind of felt like it had sort of like a book in your hand mentality to it. Like you're reading through pages, exciting moments or kind of like when you're trying to flip through, you're trying to get through the page to get to the next one. That was sort of how some of the scenes felt.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Yeah. It was a lot of callbacks that it. if you watch the movies, read the books or anything like that, even if you didn't go deep into like the similarly on in the lore and everything like that, you would still pick up stuff about characters that you would hear mentioned, especially because like the elves live forever, they're immortal, you would see characters that you saw in other interpretations in the Peter Jackson movies. It's cool. The series that kind of like hearken back to things that you're going to naturally be like you, like that, that bare one, I don't know if I would enjoy that so much,
Starting point is 00:53:13 but the fact that it's something that you're interested in, I think is why you're just like, this is so, like, fascinating and like, I could see why this would be high stress and everything. Yeah, there's so many weird kind of buttons that you can hit in somebody's brain depending on what they like and don't like. Like, when I hear people talk about, like, garbage TV,
Starting point is 00:53:32 like Bravo and reality TV, I have no idea how in the world there's a sensor in somebody's brains like Jersey Shore, boom. I have watched Jersey Shore. At the same time, where you don't get that. I'll say this about it. And this is the only thing.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I'm not making an excuse. I think you can appreciate Jersey Shore when you're past the age to be smart enough to know that nothing they're doing you should ever mimic or anything like that. I think where you would get in trouble
Starting point is 00:54:00 is if your brain is fucking mush and somehow you pick up something that they're doing is like that seems like something that I should incorporate into my life. When you're able to watch it and just appreciate me like, oh, these motherfuckers are just dumb.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I want to see what kind of dumb shit like they can get away with. That's what it's just entertainment. You're running your life by the GTL principle. Yes. That's just how you do it. Yes. And just like I don't know how that happens.
Starting point is 00:54:22 There's a show on Hulu where these chefs go out under the forest and they forage for all the ingredients that they're going to cook with. And it's kind of like bare grills meets like cutthroat kitchen. And it's just a really weird. Like iron chef. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit like that.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And I'm sure to most people when you say that you're like, why the fuck would you take any sort of time watching that show? but it's just these buttons that hit. And I, we don't, we cross over with certain things. I think movies more than TV shows. But there's just,
Starting point is 00:54:52 you can't deny good TV. Yeah. Okay. Before we get into our number one, I was going to try to hold it until the next segment, but I do have to be. Okay. All right.
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Starting point is 00:55:16 That's historically H.I. All right. And back to our show. All right. So number one series of the year. What do you got? I had a little backstory with this. I think everything that we've done has been like an initial first season of something that happened in 2022.
Starting point is 00:55:34 But my number one is, and maybe it was the waiting. Maybe it was the anticipation because HBO does things at their own fucking pace. but Euphoria season two was excellent. And I'm sure there's, it may be a fuzz out of my age range and it may be geared towards younger people. But there's just something that I enjoy so much. My wife, Katie watches it.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Does she? Oh, yeah. Okay. So maybe, maybe. Her and eyes reasons for watching it have to be just vastly different. Well, I was just thinking about that. And I mean, one of the things happens is you kind of pick up stuff on series by osmosis. If you're in the same room, you're walking.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Yep, exactly. You're going to pick it up in your periphery. But all I noticed in this one was that it was just a lot of people in dark rooms, either just having had sex, getting ready to have sex, or being coerced into sex. A lot of dicks. Yep, it seemed like that's what it was. I saw a lot of things online about how powerful
Starting point is 00:56:41 some of the episodes were and how a lot of people talking about it which usually means it's pretty good might come back to it when it's got some more seasons when I can binge it or when maybe the wife does her second watch through if it's going to be one of those.
Starting point is 00:56:55 The subject matter is just so kind of heavy in it and like I say I think with your wife watching it she sees things and she's like oh that's fantastic that's crazy. Or God I hope my kid doesn't turn out like that.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Yeah, exactly. And her and I just live different lives. I remember high school parties. I remember house parties. I remember passing around pills at different junctures of my life. You're hanging out with people that are probably not the best influence for you. At the same time, they're always fun. And you mix that kind of, I would say it's a little hyperboized,
Starting point is 00:57:31 and maybe I'm just completely wrong because I've been out of high school for so long, and maybe it is that way. but you're also mixing in that with the story of an addict and seeing them try to make it through like high school difficulties Zendaya is she's earned a single name billing she's earned her prince title of just being like Zendaya her and Tom Holland great couple fantastic they look like they match but her performances as an addict in the whole entire thing
Starting point is 00:58:02 just relapsing and going through feigning for drugs, meeting her AAA sponsor, them kind of having a rough starting relationship, and then it getting better and better. I think that's probably the mark of a great show, a really great show, is that it's not just, you know, if you talk to like three people to like the show, all three of them might like the show for a different reason.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And I think when you, yeah, I think that's the hallmark of a great show when different storylines, people experience those storylines differently or, you know, one storyline speaks to them more than another. Well, and they juggle it so well because you have the high school and the pressures of high school getting through that. So many characters in it have such a different story arc that you could almost bust it out in a different series for each of them.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Yeah. You can do an episode on ancillary character and it's like, okay, this is a great episode. And don't be surprised at that happens because that's a huge thing now. And it could. You get Augustus Clairis. playing, fuck, I haven't seen it in a while, but he's just like the Kingpin drug dealer. He had a terrible mom, his little brother,
Starting point is 00:59:14 Ashtray that they just found when he was a kid and somehow had raised him in this drug house. They worked together selling drugs and protecting Rue the entire time, protecting Zendaya. Then you also have a crazy jock killer, basically, who has... terrible anger issues from his father being an asshole, being a closeted gay man that had a tough time living in a world where that wasn't okay and kind of settling.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Maybe that's, maybe that's where, not that part specifically speaking to you. No, what I'm saying is maybe that's, that's where the adult interest comes in as you're getting to see essentially the repercussions of parent. Yeah. Oh yeah. Parenting. This is like you, you're getting like a fly on the wall perspective. of like what happens when parents do this.
Starting point is 01:00:07 You're getting the, you're getting to watch the, the result of that. Just how bad and toxic relationships can be. I, I think that's, especially like young, yes, young ones. Yeah, it's dumb as fuck. Of course, you're only,
Starting point is 01:00:20 you're willing to ignore every fucking red flag just because it's fun and exciting or dangerous whatnot. And it has the absolute most toxic relationship that, that I think that I've ever seen on TV. But it's just so good that, Every single time. Is it that Sidney Sweeney chick and then whoever her boyfriend is? Because every time I feel like I turn around on the screen, it's her getting pinned down or very aggressively someone forcing themselves on her.
Starting point is 01:00:49 The relationship, their relationship is awful. But she, her Sydney Sweeney and the dude that she starts dating, he had the most toxic relationship with her best friend. This is where I have a tough time explaining it and having it sound like. this should be something that I'm interested in because I We can just move on if you just want to be in a rich show. I can give a fuck about love stories. Okay. Everything about it from top to bottom T to B
Starting point is 01:01:13 everywhere is just a storyline that catches your eye and you're almost waiting for an episode where they look at that more. Mm-hmm. Just because you want to know more about it. It's a little moot. They're just teasing you for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Dropping Easter eggs everywhere. All right. My number one was Andor, the Star Wars Disney Plus series. and out of all the Disney, I love Star Wars, not crazy about the newest additions to the Skywalker
Starting point is 01:01:43 trilogy or nine movies, sorry. But with their series, they've been doing an okay job. Mandalorian is excellent, and then they've had a couple that are a little less than that. Does Favre write for the movies and for the series or just a series?
Starting point is 01:02:00 He gets to write for the series. I don't know if he took on anything during the movies. He might have helped with like the first. I'm not sure. I don't want to tie him to that if he had nothing to do with it. But he's done an excellent job with the series. He's so good.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Him and Dave Faloni. Dave Faloni's list, huge Star Wars geek that they did an excellent job of putting it in control, creative control for this. But Andor is this movie that is based off a secondary character in like a kind of underappreciated Star Wars movie called Did you ever see Rogue One? It's the one where they steal the plane. plans for the Death Star takes place right before, like it's supposed to take place right before
Starting point is 01:02:37 a new hope, the one that was the first one back in the 70s. Anyway, the character in this is basically he's a, like, almost like a black ops agent for the Rebel Alliance. And it's the first time that they, instead of having the Rebel Alliance look like the altruistic, good guys, benevolent, and everything like that, you start to see that they're more of like a guerrilla piece together out of like these certain cells of like gorillas and stuff like that. They distance themselves from ones that are too extreme. But you start to see the shady shit that they have to do. As part of like spying, they have to like kill people and terrorist attacks and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Andor is about this character that is like when it comes to sealing the Death Star plans, he's the one that they send out like their top man. And the series is takes place. He died. Spoiler alert. He dies in Rogue One. but the series takes place with him before he joined the Rebel lines
Starting point is 01:03:36 and how he gets introduced. But what's crazy about it and why it's so interesting and I can see why maybe some people that like another aspect of Star Wars like the Jedi and all that stuff it might not be their cup of tea but this actually kind of showed you it was almost like a Tom Clancy like a Jack Ryan
Starting point is 01:03:53 like cloak and dagger type shit like you get to see like people that are prominent within like the empire the newly formed empire, but you get to see them like actually being like rebel operatives. And like people that are in positions of power, like senators, like funding like rebellion activities.
Starting point is 01:04:12 And there's this, my favorite character and it isn't actually the guy and or Cassian Andor. It's this guy, his name is something Rayal. But he's basically the guy that is operating this like large portion of like the rebel cells that will eventually go on to become the rebel alliance. and he plans like military outpost robbery
Starting point is 01:04:35 for all of this money to secure funds to then fund other rebel activity and everything plans these jobs and it also involves like what the empire is formed is like they're CIA and you get to almost see like a J. Edgar Hoover type deal with it where they're not even worried about rights
Starting point is 01:04:53 or anything like that they're spying on everybody they're gathering information on everything to try to snuff out any type of like dissent and it's just this weird part of the movies that have never been explored but that once they start talking about they're like oh yeah that you're watching
Starting point is 01:05:06 like that would have to make perfect sense like of course all this stuff is happening behind the scenes it's not just like we're the rebels blah blah blah blah like we're don't shoot us with the death star it's like no like you probably had to kill some people and like hush some people up to keep from being discovered and how did you get your ships like where did you get the money from
Starting point is 01:05:23 like is it just rich people like that is sort of a cool way to go about it. Because kind of what I'm gathering from what you're saying is there's still parts from the movies that they hold true in the series.
Starting point is 01:05:38 There's no fantastical elements to it really. You know how like the Jedi, the lightsabers, that kind of seems force powers? That all does seem kind of like fantastical or magical. This is like strictly like bare bones. Like if we were in the future and we were in space, it would be like how things are operating.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Like there would be space pirates. There would be, you know, people landing like coups and like rebellions and stuff like that it's just crazy to see kind of like because you know how stuff turned out it's weird seeing like the seedy like dirty part of it that built it it still builds into what happens yeah yeah which i think is a really smart thing we've seen weird kind of like a series that may not get renewed for its last season so kind of like breaking bad breaking bad throwing out el camino was just sort of like a hay we need to tie an extra bow on this,
Starting point is 01:06:31 even though I think they probably ended a series better than most series have ever ended. I don't think they needed to even do that. I'm not sure why they did El Camino because the series felt like it ended like... Yeah, the right way. You didn't know about Jesse too much. You know he's still alive.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Yeah, like, I think they... They fell into this weird trap that people loved it so much that they were like, they love it so much, do we give them just a little bit more? and they risk that. It's not a tarnishing because they didn't do like a whole other season.
Starting point is 01:07:02 That just went downhill the whole time and then ended it poorly. You could technically not watch El Camino and the series stands up and it's perfect. But you don't, nothing gets added, nothing gets taken away. But I think they fell into that weird, you know, pitfall of being like, oh, did they want more? But maybe they, people didn't know what they wanted. And they could sell this to Netflix for $80 million. I think though with this model of already knowing you're looking for Magic Pan
Starting point is 01:07:33 Yeah keep talking With the way that this played out It feels like already knowing What happens in the movie that they can almost Just continue to add more and more But I also think that it's a brilliant strategy Because even if you weren't really big into the movies But as soon as you're able to
Starting point is 01:07:52 Bring people in with the series then as soon as they see the series, it's just going to build more and more of a fan base that's going to want to go see the movies and make more money. Like it's almost like a cheat code to get more sales going to people watching your movies. Yeah. Yeah, it's just a kind of a fun concept to play around with
Starting point is 01:08:16 and think of like, how are we going to build in more of a younger fan base? Well, things are looking more towards going to series and streaming. So if we can build a fan base that way, instead of old movies, it's just going to pay off. All right. So what do we now have as our new? Worst Person. It's going to be fun.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Worst person is going to be a lot of fun. These will go a little bit quicker, I think. I think they're more self-explanatory. These are pretty well-known why these people are going to be nominated and winning this award. There's not going to be a lot of good and bad debate with these. Let's just take five, and we can cut it. Just find your pen. all right we'll be right back
Starting point is 01:08:57 where's last all right I literally found it three seconds after I just paused that but we're leaving it in it's part of the charm these are the perils to doing podcasts
Starting point is 01:09:09 the way we do them all right worst person man worst person I feel like is going to be a fun kind of a shit session let's just go with the third place I think we're in agreement
Starting point is 01:09:19 it's Amber Hurd and third right Amber Hurd and third I would say that it's almost like a double because for as terrible as Amber Heard looked the entire trial, which I didn't follow kind of more than just on the peripherals. But they, her and Johnny Depp are just two bad people. I think we can just all agree on that. It was a very bad relationship. Amber Heard may have ratcheted up more. And obviously she lost the case. That's why he, that's why he looked better.
Starting point is 01:09:47 It was looking better in comparison. It's not like if he hadn't done anything, he wouldn't have They've been in that courtroom. Even before the court case started, like, the picture of his nightstand that looked very oddly staged with the lines of cocaine and the whiskey and everything set out. He might be a creature of habit. He likes structure. Well, and here's the thing. It could be. Is we're not saying that Johnny Depp isn't a great person.
Starting point is 01:10:14 We're just saying in comparison. And during that specific event, he ended up being the winner. The less shit person. Exactly. So Amber, what does Amber like to do? I mean, she pooped in the bed. Crazy move. Her dog got stung by a bee.
Starting point is 01:10:32 I think the hardest part of me to have to come to this conclusion, I think her first big movie was like never back down. Oh yeah. And she was smoking hot in that. And for as dumb of a movie as that was, great watch. Very good watch. I'm trying to figure out how did she, what was she in next that like it was with Johnny Depp and that's how they met each other? I'm assuming if it's Johnny Depp. Her Rumb Diaries, maybe?
Starting point is 01:10:55 I was going to say is it some type of cocaine movie? She wasn't in Blow. No, I know she wasn't. What I'm saying is was rum. I'm assuming there was some cocaine in Rum Diaries. He was a writer, right? There were diaries. Johnny Depp kind of falls in my Tom Cruise category.
Starting point is 01:11:11 There's too much of him. He's too much of a character, even outside. There's no normal, like Tom Cruise is a character too. Yeah. Inside and outside. A real life character. It's hard to tell the difference. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:22 So we shouldn't have to go too far into Amber Hurd. I mean, the trial was everywhere. And then after the trial, her interviews were just god-offal. Oh, yeah. She's a better actor on screen than she's off-screen. Oh, yeah. You'd think somebody that acts for a living could give a little bit better interview. All right.
Starting point is 01:11:41 In second place. And it was hard. I mean, it wasn't hard to choose between these two. But we got Elon in second. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Elon Musk, for whatever he's doing for the space program. And I think he built like tubes or something like that in London.
Starting point is 01:11:59 I don't know if that's completely. I don't even know if he's fully done that. No, I don't even think that. I think that was something he was trying to do like in a section of L.A. was like that hyperloop or whatever it was called. He also does shit that I think he does have Asperger's. But I think that there's more at work than just that. Because he's found himself in kerfuffles.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Like the shit were those, I think it was in Thailand, that soccer team got caught in that cave. And Elon's like, oh, I'll just build a submarine that'll float underneath everything and it'll be able to rescue the kids and all that. And then that super diver comes in and saves all those kids. And he's like, yeah, well, you should have said it over there before I got there. And then Elon calls him like a stupid petto guy. Like he's some kind of pervert that's trying to have sex with these kids in this cave.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Just he finds himself in these situations where it's like, just stop. I think, and of course, like this person has. It's like we, you know, we were talking about how if you're good at something, sometimes what happened is you do have like a percentage of power within your brain. And like it feels like like 90% of his is whatever he special. I don't know if it's the physics aspect of it. I don't know what it is that he specializes in. But whatever it is, he's able to apply it and design pretty fucking cool cars and also launch it into space.
Starting point is 01:13:19 So whatever he's doing and whatever it applies to it's a science that applies to both of those. He owns a private company that NASA came to it. It was like, hey, we need your help because you're doing this as a private company just as good, if not better than we are. So hey, buddy, just stick with that. People really liked you when you were doing that shit. But then I think what happened is he started to go ahead and become like, not a cartoon or anything like that. But he started to become famous. And I don't think that he has enough.
Starting point is 01:13:53 He, you know, instead of that 10%, that didn't know how to react to it. That 10% like the social skills weren't there. He was like, oh, these people like, I'll love me. Maybe they hate me, I'm going to be a troll now. And it's not just the whole point of like him buying Twitter and all that kind of stuff. He's fine to do. Like Twitter's a, you know, private company.
Starting point is 01:14:13 It can do whatever the fuck it wants. Don't use Twitter. And it was a hellhole before. Since he's taken over, it's only become more of a hellwell. But he wasn't starting out with something great. And then making it better. But here's the thing, too, is like, man, you could, you were on pace to essentially use your gifts and your intelligence to really, like, make a difference in humanity. Had you stayed with that.
Starting point is 01:14:37 But you fucking got distracted by some shiny shit. And now you're just trying to, like, play the villain, the full heel about it. Like, we don't need a real life fucking supervillain on this planet. You don't need to be Lex fucking Luther. Please go back to doing what you're doing and use that for something that could. you know, you could live on forever in a positive light for, you know, doing good for mankind. Oh, yeah. And instead, you're just like, I'm going to go ahead and buy Twitter.
Starting point is 01:15:04 And then I'm just going to basically post dumb shit on it and try to troll people. And I don't know what the play is there. It's like he tried to turn Twitter into his own stand-up form. I think part of it was the fact that he has a certain weird following of, like, smart people. and then people that want to feel smart by following along. Yes, by following Elon. And if you are interested in Elon, by some type of association,
Starting point is 01:15:28 you must also be an intellectual. Yeah, so people think that way and feel that way. They keep for him, they protect him. But it's like he bought Twitter to silence the people that didn't like him as much, I feel like. And then also partially to like try to hone a stand-up act because he wanted to be liked by everybody trying to be funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Like that whole thing when Chappelle brought him up, on stage pretty recently, and he got pretty booed. Yeah, no shit. People don't like him. You have to be able to understand. There has to be some sort of social intelligence in your mind where you're just like, hey, this isn't working, so maybe I don't do it. Why am I forcing
Starting point is 01:16:05 myself onto these people? This isn't my lane. Like, when did people like me most? Maybe I'd just go back to doing that. Just go back to making moderately priced, I think, for electric cars. And, you know, take a jab here, they're making an intelligent joke, something like that. Don't get into politics.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Don't get into social issues. Like just fucking, just get us to fucking Mars, dude. Yeah. Get us to fucking Mars. If you really want to be loved by everybody, fucking get us to Mars.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Put a, a space station resort up in space that only rich people will be able to go to. Be the Walt fucking Disney. Yeah. Less, less hating Jews, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Yes. But you get, I meant the like the intellectual pioneer type thing. All right, moving on. Well, actually, not moving on. No,
Starting point is 01:16:48 yeah, we're walking right into it again. just walked ass backwards right into that just walked right up on stage ass backward grabbed it from Taylor Swift yeah it's not even surprising now this was a consensus
Starting point is 01:17:06 I think this one is probably on everybody's list but Kanye yeah did you see Kanye's um his new logo for his fashion line he's starting one himself you did not see this yet uh uh-uh are you you fucking kidding me.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Is it look like swastika? Here, take a look at that. That's, yeah, that's, that's swastika. That's ye and a swastika. That's, that's fucking swastika. That is, that is, that can not be mistaken for anything but a swastika. So yeah, it's the E24 merch. What a wild.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Go ahead and look that up, Google that. So that should actually be, even alone by itself right there, should easily, you know, explain why we chose him as the worst person. But what's the play here? Because at some point, getting off your medication isn't an excuse anymore. Are we seeing, are him and Antonio Brown doing the same ayahuasca or like a bad batch or something? The president of Donda Academy, Antonio Brown? Is he really?
Starting point is 01:18:12 Yeah. Yeah. He works. I guess the school shut down now, but he worked for Kanye. Oh, no. It shut down. This is a very, this is a very, the man that's held up in his house
Starting point is 01:18:22 for like the last 25 days on a warrant with the police outside the house that was your president of Donda Academy. Have they at this point? You know Connie's been like missing right? Have they located him at this point? I don't I haven't even heard that he's missing.
Starting point is 01:18:37 I would assume that December 30th. We just Google that? Everybody I think he hit a wall finally and there was a funny thing that happened where originally, like if you listen to a lot of Kanye's albums,
Starting point is 01:18:55 he talks a lot about sort of subjects that he's really trying to push now. But at the same time, he also rebels against a lot of the same stuff in his older music. And once Donda died, once his mom died, I think things started to get a little pear shape for him. This is,
Starting point is 01:19:13 it's the Michael Jackson thing. It's just, it's a different thing. He's a fucking Nazi and Michael Jackson was, I diagnosed bipolar. that refuses to take his medicine. And he refuses to take his medicine because he doesn't want to say it, but he's going to imply it. Then he's going to say that the doctor was Jewish, which don't know if he was or not, don't think that that plays into any role of a psychologist prescribing medicine for bipolar.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Like, you weren't diagnosed because the guy was Jewish and he's like, I got to figure out how to shut this guy down. That's just what you are. Yeah. I mean, it's a wild move. Go get a second opinion. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go find a non-Jewish psychologist to get a second opinion from.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Betcha it's not going to be much different. The collapse has been fast and spectacular. And I get, okay, I don't get it. That's, I don't. Just the simple fact that, like, it's the separation of the music from the individual. But at what point does the individual do something so bad that the music doesn't, can't get separated? The music's gotten worse, too. No, no, no, I'm saying like even just any...
Starting point is 01:20:21 Like, because, you know, yeah, Michael Jackson was fucking diddling kids from early on. But does that mean what happens when you listen to Jackson 5? ABC 1, 2, 3 is a fucking awesome song. Thriller, smooth criminal, just... The man was an artist. He kind of has a reverse Snoop Dog going on. Because I don't know if it was really something that everybody... I'm sure back in the day they knew, but Snoop was on the hook for a murder before he
Starting point is 01:20:48 really, like, became what he was. I didn't know that. So he kind of... Calvin, come on. Yeah. He built his life up, whereas Kanye in kind of the ilk like him, they have a phenomenal catalog, and then something goes wrong for them, and they immediately, I don't know if it's like a god complex, but like, how much can I get away with?
Starting point is 01:21:10 It's because you don't hear no. No one is around you. No one is around you saying no. You think Antonio Brown is ever saying no to anything? Mm-mm. No, not even when he... Except take a seat on the bench? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:23 Except when he runs out of stadiums or when some lady tells him, no, she doesn't want to see his penis in a pool and then whips it out. He probably should have been closer on this list. God damn it, yeah. I feel like him and Amber could have been sharing that spot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Let's put him up there too. All right, honorable mention Antonio Brown. But Kanye's big kind of funny thing that happened was when he first kind of spoke out, he mentioned some different things like Ice Cube was kind of a, he spoke a lot about Luis Farrakhan back in the day. He was in a lot of his songs and different things like that. Farrakhan is a noted anti-Semite, a nation of Islam member who I don't really know.
Starting point is 01:22:04 I don't have a personal opinion on him, but he said some pretty bad things about the Jews. And so Kanye points to Cube and Cube's like, yep, didn't say any of this right now. That was my thoughts back then. Just keep me out of your mouth. Like, I'm not going to support you. You're a part of the rap community. He's like, yeah, 100 feet away. Just stay away from me.
Starting point is 01:22:22 I think that there was a little bit, I'm not going to speak for the black community being very white. But I think that there was a little bit of like they had so much invested in Kanye and saw themselves kind of in his image a little bit of being a black man that's overcome. So he still had a little bit of that support. And then he had a sect of the white population who maybe is more right-leaning. a little bit who would support his freedom of speech to say the things that he wanted to say pinning it in that issue and then we see the culmination of everybody's being like probably enough
Starting point is 01:22:57 and that was that beautiful Alex Jones interview that he did with that mask on and do you think he does that to try to make any claim that it's not him if it ever came down to it uh I think it's a big daddy situation I think it's a Frankenstein in the glasses okay type deal I think it makes him feel more comfortable having his face covered and that's just a little bit of Big Daddy reference? Yeah. Good job. He just, I think it's like a comfort thing for him.
Starting point is 01:23:23 But in that interview, when he makes the biggest shock jock of our generation, maybe even the world ever, like, Alex Jones is a dude that's just out there, out there. He may end up in history books somehow. God, I hope not. Even in a negative way, God, I hope not. But yeah, when you makes Alex Jones be like, oh, I mean. That's a very crazy shiterson, Connie. We didn't. Info wars, supporting Hitler, the non-supporting.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Would you have to make Info Wars say we don't support this person's statement? Keep up to fight! You said some shit. And for him to say that he believes that everybody, it's, he had such an odd message of, like, saying everybody, there's good and everybody and everybody does something to impact this world. And that he loves and has redeeming qualities or some shit like that or, I don't know. You just, there's just some people. that are irredeemable. And Hitler is definitely,
Starting point is 01:24:19 the H-Man's definitely up there on that list, very high, if not, Numero, and for him to be like, he did some things. And then to just reach two knuckles deep
Starting point is 01:24:30 into his own ass and say that he invented highways in the microphone, two of the most easily disputable, like you can figure that out in like three seconds of Google. To just say that and be like, yeah, Hitler invented the microphone.
Starting point is 01:24:45 It's like, well, He got his message out by microphone, so there's a good chance he probably didn't invent the microphone. I'm not able to be loud enough. We have to invent something to make sure that my hate speech can be heard across the land. It's just such a wild thing to say. They just be like, I love Hitler. I'm not, yeah, kind of am not thinking Hitler for this thing I'm talking into you right now.
Starting point is 01:25:06 No, and all the freedom of speech people that were on his side were just like, ugh, he's, he needs help. We need to quit giving him a platform to speak. It's like, freedom speech. You want the freedom of speech. Keep giving him the platform. Let's see what else he comes up with. But I don't even know if you meant to go as hard as he did. And now seeing his fashion label, he might have.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Oh, he's steering right into it. I don't even know how far into it he really was before it started gaining traction. And then I think he's like, see how far can take this. And then it went too far. But seeing that, I think he's in. I think he's there. I'd be curious to know how much those are going to cost and what country they're going to be. All right. So congratulations. You are the worst person of the year.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Yeah. Great job, Kanye. Good after. All right. Shocking moment. 2022. This is where we're getting some fun. Okay. I want to do the one you have listed third. I want to do that as second place. Okay. So you're going to have to explain this one to me because I am completely out of the loop on how Vin Diesel was able to tweet Bernie Greiner home. So they've made, what, 10 Fast in the Furious movies? I believe so. Something like that.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Fast. Yeah, I think so. There are plans for more. If we know. Oh, you fast fans. Don't worry. If we know one thing about Dom Toreto, it's that family is everything and he's always going to save the day somehow.
Starting point is 01:26:39 And I think they're planning for the future because they're just getting into using their kids. for these movies. No, no, no. Like, well, yeah, I'm sure when it's fast 42, it's not going to be Don Torretto. Trying to escape the fucking retirement home. He's got an ass on his wheelchair. Yeah, some shit like that.
Starting point is 01:26:57 So, obviously, that... It's Brian Jr. Don't do that to Paul Walker's character, please. No, no, that would be so bad. His brother having to step in to finish the one that he died during, bad enough. That's enough. But,
Starting point is 01:27:11 we know that the whole Britney Griner saga has played out for basically the whole year. A WMBA player that doesn't get paid enough in America, so in the offseason she has to go over and play in Russia. I think she makes a fairly decent bag over there. I think it's about a million bucks a year, and I think she's making about 270 in America. So on our way back through, I've got to quit saying, obviously, at this point, Russia has invaded Ukraine. Ukraine. And so the tensions are very, very high.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Griner's coming back over to America. They stop her, they search her bag. They find, I want to say, it was like less than a gram of THC oil. So was it like a cart? Yeah, less than a cart's worth, but it was multiple pens, I think. So there again,
Starting point is 01:28:02 if you snuck them into Russia, that's a great move. I'm not here to persecute Brittany Grunner for anything. I think that it was very unfair what happened to her. but it's a crazy move bringing drugs into Russia and then trying to get them back out. If you're flying back to a place where it's legal, you're not gonna need them on the plane.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Yeah, I have, uh, and it's not, it's not that I don't think that she should have been detained or anything like that. What I'm saying is like, you have to be smart enough that if you're gonna be traveling over there and I understand like, it, it,
Starting point is 01:28:31 I could go into the listings of, she has, you know, anxiety, she's away from home. It's, it is medicine. Oh, yeah. And everything like that. Or she just like smoke, I fucking like, to smoke. I'm not going to judge her for that. What I'm saying is if you go somewhere
Starting point is 01:28:42 out of country where they have strict laws against it, there's places where if you show your feet, they'll fucking cut off your hands. Like, understand that like you're going somewhere that isn't the fucking US. And like you said, you got lucky enough to get that shit in. You're flying back to where there's a ton of it. Like, throw it the fuck away. It's a crazy move. Especially, I don't think 6-8 African-American lesbian basketball players or a dime a dozen over there. So they're probably already going to be looking to pick you out going through security. Especially tensions are already high. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:18 They know you're American because you look American. You've been randomly selected. Well, step over here. We're going to need to very thoroughly search this bag that you probably flew through with. Okay, so explain the Vin Diesel thing. So she's over there. America has been trying a prisoner swap, everything else. we're going to go ahead and fast forward to, I believe it was November 22nd,
Starting point is 01:29:44 right around November 20th. And Vin Diesel goes ahead and posts on Instagram. It says, it's a picture of him holding his thumb up at a Lakers game after him and Anthony Davis just tapped up. And it says, I need Britney Griner home before Christmas. As simple as that. that's the message that gets sent out. Dom Torreto, Venn Diesel, we need Brittany Grider home by Christmas.
Starting point is 01:30:11 And lo and behold, I believe it was like December 8th, so we're talking a matter of 18, 20-ish days somewhere around there. We finally get the prisoner swap. Brittany Griner's brought back to America. America, the U.S., the presidency, the White House, FBI, CIA,
Starting point is 01:30:27 everybody that was in on this had a whole year to make this happen. And I'm willing to say that Pooty Poot might have seen Vin Diesel's tweet or his Instagram posts, but like, shit. I can fight the American government. I can't fight the whole cast of Fast and the Furious.
Starting point is 01:30:45 We need to make this prisoner swap happen. I need to get Brittany Grener home so Vin Diesel stays off my ass. I feel like you snuck this one in because I was ignorant to what this meant. We're going to move on to the second one. What are you talking about? That's a great story. It is a great story. And honestly, I hope you tell it. Often.
Starting point is 01:31:04 I'm shocked. I'm visibly shocked that Vin Diesel can get that much work done over everybody else that was trying to make it happen. Well, he has made 10 Best in the Furious movies. If you can carry a franchise through 10 movies, I don't even think any of the James Bond's made it. I don't even think Sean Conner or Roger Moore made it 10 movies. No. He has power. All right.
Starting point is 01:31:28 A very recent, recent event. This one snuck in under the bell. Yes. And I'm glad it did. We got fucking Greta Thunberg getting Andrew Tate arrested. There's so much to this, and yet it all happens so quickly. So for those of you that are not familiar, Greta Thunberg, Thunberg, Thunberg, Thunberg, is a, she's like 18 or 19 right now.
Starting point is 01:32:01 No, she's 19 now. Okay, she's a climate activist. and what country is Sweden. She seems some Scandinavian. Got to be Scandinavian. Something like that. She was famous. She made headlines a few years ago, I think, because she spoke at like an international conference about global warming summit.
Starting point is 01:32:17 Yeah, it was some type of like global warming summit or, and basically just said a lot of comments and stuff. I know people are going to like have their opinions on and everything like that. Here's the deal. You can't expect us to be on the planet Earth and change the natural ecology and expect everything to just run as it would had we not been here. So yes, there is shit that happens. We get colder winters. We get warmer summers. It does happen. I'm not saying it's happening as rapidly. It might be happening as rapidly. I actually do believe in global warming. It's just climate change in general
Starting point is 01:32:47 because it's not just shit getting hotter. It's the stuff that we see in Buffalo where they're having record snowfall. Yes. A super blizzard that nobody saw a coming that hadn't happened in so long. Well, I think that's what's happened at this point is we realize that it's both ways. And so people are like, well, you used to global warming and it gets cold. Not to you. like, well, that's just using the wrong term. It's now climate change. But anyway, so that's what she's famous for. So I don't know how...
Starting point is 01:33:10 I'm not scared of many people on this planet. She seems to know her shit. That's the, I think that... And she would just yell at you and you'd be like, yes. Yeah, she's a... Yeah, it's getting hotter. Scary lady. And for those of you that aren't familiar,
Starting point is 01:33:22 Andrew Tate or Cobra Tate, um, this guy's just a fucking clown. And basically he was a like lower-tier. amateur kickboxer some shit and he got famous by doing something and then he opened this Players University
Starting point is 01:33:41 to teach men how to be alpha males and how to get women and make women self-servient. I'm trying to do an Andrew Tate voice because I've heard him talk. He's basically a fucking clown and he probably has a small dick. The male chauvinist male chauvinist. Yes. He's sort of
Starting point is 01:33:57 the leader of the incels it feels like. Yes. And so for some reason they I'm assuming he tweeted at her. I don't know how exactly it went, but there was something about he tweeted to her about having like
Starting point is 01:34:13 all these like 33 supercars and how many emissions they throw off and all that kind of shit. And she tweeted back and she said, really cool, make sure you send all the details to my email. Smalldick Energy at, is it bite me or get lost
Starting point is 01:34:29 or something.com? It was just like it brought to light why he was even tweeting at her, and then she replied back with a pretty boss response. Sort of a little confusing, but we get the gist of it. I don't know why she would have a small dick energy email. It was just to make it burn with him. Yeah, yeah. Not well done, but still everybody got the point.
Starting point is 01:34:48 So then he makes a video replying to her, and during this little video, he gets pizza delivered. The most unnecessary thing that needs to have. He's smoking a cigar. He's in a robe. You don't need pizza delivered. Yeah, he has two, two pizzas. is delivered in their boxes in front of him. And this must have been live too.
Starting point is 01:35:07 He must have been doing it initially live when they first caught on to what it was. Because apparently, what country is this? Romania. Romania. Apparently, Mr. Andrew Tate has a warrant in Romania for sex trafficking. So, after taking
Starting point is 01:35:23 a look at these pizza boxes, which it shows very clearly the name of the pizzeria, and I believe the address, if you zoomed in enough, with the location that it was delivered from. I don't know if it was the address. I know that the pizza chain only existed in Romania and then they were able to figure out the area.
Starting point is 01:35:39 Some weirdly American name like Little Joey's or some shit. Yeah, it sounded 100% American. And I don't know because it's all alleged, but being a sex trafficker here in America seems like it's pretty along the books of what you would think. To be charged with sex trafficking in a place like Romania, which I've never been, I don't know. But it seems like a little bit more of...
Starting point is 01:36:02 Europe. Draconian place. Oh, yeah. And so to be charged with it there, they probably have some good evidence that you did some crazy shit. Oh, yeah. And if you, if you guys researched anything on this guy, you're going to see that this guy, he's seen, he's like an even more like chauvinistic, like Steve Bilsarian.
Starting point is 01:36:21 And even Steve is kind of leaned out of that. Dan Balsarian. I mix it up because I think, do you watch Big Mouth? Yeah. Jay Bilsarian. I always mix up all the names of the brothers and everything. But anyway, so he makes this fucking video to try to burn her back and ends up letting the authorities in Romania know, hey, motherfuckers, I'm home. And they come in arrest and it's him and his brother.
Starting point is 01:36:45 And so he gets fucking popped. And this isn't just local police. This is like their version of like CIA or FBI, like full body armor bringing him out. Yeah, just that there's certain things that would crush your mind. that that's out there, like being a fugitive, I don't know why in the world who's back in Romania. Like, that seems like a place you just probably want to avoid. Maybe you have, maybe
Starting point is 01:37:09 you're helping out the sex trafficking ring or whatever. Can you imagine the guy that gets the news or someone forwards him? They're like, hey, Tate's going live. And he's like, I've been working this case for so fucking long, where's he at? And he's just watching and he's like, that's a Romanian pizza. I know
Starting point is 01:37:25 little joys. He's like, I know little joey's like, oh my God, he's like, scramble the fucking troops. We're getting this fucking purve. tonight. Of all the ways to get caught for sex trafficking, getting caught. Oh, I love it. I love it. The pizza box is, it's just a beautiful, a chef's kiss on a, just a great
Starting point is 01:37:41 ending to it. I don't know. Chef's kiss on a fucking piece of shit. Just a fucking funny, funny outcome. It couldn't happen to a better person. Oh yeah. This was very... Well deserved. Yeah. All right. And the winner of the most shocking moment. Should be
Starting point is 01:37:57 no shock to anyone. No, it'll slap you right in the face if you're paying attention. Slap heard around the world. Will, what are you doing? Will. Oh, you had it all, man. The Fresh Prince of Bel Air, big Willie style. You had the sympathy of the nation and probably the world.
Starting point is 01:38:19 Because we all saw what Jada did you on that. Would they call it Red Table Talk? Yeah. She's talking about her entanglements with her fucking son's friends, Young, whatever his fucking name was, or whatever rapper. And Will's just happened to fucking sit there and take it. Okay. Not to get too far into that, but that does actually start, you know, explaining issues. Like, Will you, why are you fucking having this conversation for on TV,
Starting point is 01:38:41 man? Like, why? Like, do you think Will gets hard being, like, humiliating? Yeah. You think it is. Yeah. Do you think it's something to where, like, he had so much, like, fame and power that no one ever told him no, and Jada finally was the one that was like, no, you ain't getting this? And he's like, this is fucking new and I'm rock hard. And now that's, that's, That's what it is. She just debases him. And it just fucking gets him just work the fuck up. She has to have the greatest pus on the planet. There's no way that...
Starting point is 01:39:12 What's the... You know, there's the crazy hot scale? Is there a crazy good pus scale? So the crazier, the better to the pus? She has to set an all-time high because she's a very attractive lady. And I have a hard time feeling bad for rich people. lot of the time, especially a guy that's as decorated as he is, but that look that
Starting point is 01:39:35 became the meme on his face. See, but here's the thing is what he's got, money ain't gonna fix. No, no, no, no, no. There's no matter in the world. So that's exactly why I think it's easy, or easier to look at like someone like that and being like dude, like, what has she got in,
Starting point is 01:39:51 like, what does she got on you? Or like, what does she do to you? You're, Will Smith, you're supposed to, you're fucking big Willie. Yeah. You, you carried the bad boys franchise. So getting to the event itself, as it were, at the Oscars. Chris Rock, Rock, Chris Rock is up doing his staying on stage.
Starting point is 01:40:11 Chris Rock. Chris Rock. My mouth's a little dry. He's up on stage. He's making jokes at the expense of all the fucking millionaires in the crowd. He's making Oscars jokes, but ratchet it up to Chris Rock style. And that's the thing. Chris Rock is still such an incredible comedian that for him to be,
Starting point is 01:40:32 that position, it's just so big. Maybe a little bit low-hagen fruit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the joke was, had the, the joke itself probably fell flat, and that was probably enough to let him know that it probably wasn't a great joke that it landed. But it was such a throwaway joke. Yes, it was, it was a forgettable joke. So he would have just moved on to the next one.
Starting point is 01:40:55 It was not like he was going to stick on it. Had it got a huge thing, he may have gone in on something related to it. But you're not going to keep chasing it if it's not poppy. And it didn't seem like it gauged a huge reaction. No, he was just looking for a little crowd. Out of the crowd. Except for the one man. And so if you haven't seen this, I don't know how you haven't seen the, it's been fucking everywhere, anywhere, anywhere and everywhere.
Starting point is 01:41:19 But so Will, as Chris is standing there, the, I don't think they're going to be designing the stage like that anymore to where people are actually sitting on the stage and everything. Because it seemed like a very unobstructed. path. That stage is going to be eight feet tall next year. With a line of bouncers in front. Like fucking security at a concert. They're going to have to take an elevator up to accept their awards. Check people's IDs as they're getting ready
Starting point is 01:41:44 to walk up the ramp. So Will walks up and it looks like it's going to be a bit. Like I'm, I actually kind of expected him to maybe like get Chris in a headlock and be like, hey, don't do it again. Ha, ha, ha. And then walk back. And everyone everyone would have, that would laugh more than he actually got the pop at the joke.
Starting point is 01:42:01 I'm going to rub the hair off. your head, see how you like it. Something like that. Yeah. And all Chris Rock did, Jada Smith, uh, huge alopecia activist. I don't know what you'd call it. Not,
Starting point is 01:42:13 not big enough. Not big enough that I'd heard about it, but I'm not really big into following the alopecia movement. Yeah. I don't know where she stands in the hierarchy of people, famous people with alopecia, but I think it's fairly well known that she has it. And Chris, this isn't like it was one guy that was just picking on some random person's life.
Starting point is 01:42:30 No, he was hitting everyone in the crowd. Yeah. And they're friends. They know each other. They've known each other forever. They've been megastars together. Will fucking laughed.
Starting point is 01:42:38 Yeah. He was fucking laughing. Yeah. For a second. Yeah. And then he looked and he was like, oh shit, I'm laughing it.
Starting point is 01:42:43 So now I got to, he's got to pay for my laugh. And I think Chris, when he was walking up, he kind of leaned into it like he thought Will was going to turn and get him out. He's like, I'll come down and meet you.
Starting point is 01:42:52 We'll do a little bit and everything. Oh, no. Will, like, did you see the picture of the still where he's like before the slap? He's already got the actual, the slap was performed with the right hand. He's got the left in a stabilizing position already out to the side. He widens his base so quickly.
Starting point is 01:43:08 And it's not even just like you walk up and it's like, you know, a slap within the length of your body. This is a wind up. And he comes in. Yeah, he threw the counterbalance arm out on the other side. Yes. And he throws it and just not, doesn't take anything off of it. No. It looked like a wrestling slap up until the actual connection and there was no slapping of the hip to make the noise.
Starting point is 01:43:30 It's like, whoa. Okay. he walks off shocking enough as that is that could still be the most shocking moment right there but Chris for Rock tries to play it off Will Smith just slapped the shit out of me and he was about ready to move on
Starting point is 01:43:45 he played it cool and then all of a sudden Will did he get another look from Jada's like not enough not enough for this magic pus yeah it could have been it he was either that or he finally saw the security like the shock had worn off and they were coming to grab him So he's like, I got to make this worth it.
Starting point is 01:44:03 I got to get my money's worth. Oh, I don't think he got escorted out at all. Maybe, like, after the commercial break or, like, well, he also came up and got an award after that. Yeah, so I don't think he left. I think, like, Denzel, like, popped in and, like, kind of leaned over and is like, what the fuck are you doing? Denzel was black Switzerland and came in and part of a piece of agreement.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Okay, but he's, so he's sitting there. And the first thing is, I like how in the audio, they're not, like, it's not, you know, the sound, I'm sure they, have mics and everything. But you know those parabolic dishes they use of football games. I'm sure there's those around because if they're looking for someone
Starting point is 01:44:37 talking in the crowd and they want to try to get someone, they can probably aim those. Because the first keep my wife's name out your fucking mouth, you can hear it sounds like an echo. Yeah. Like the sound's not pointed there
Starting point is 01:44:48 and then you can tell those sound guys are like, oh shit, it's not over. He's back. Get every fucking dish we have on this guy. And then you get Chris is basically like it was a joke. It was a G.I. Jane joke. Will apparently believes,
Starting point is 01:45:01 was there another glance at Jada and she's like, again? Did he catch to be more up there? She just gave him the thumb to like the upper volume symbol. Like the thumb going up and he's like, keep my wife's name out your fucking mouth. You think you gave her the gladiator the thumbs down? And he's like, uh, got to finish this off.
Starting point is 01:45:23 He's still standing. God damn it. But God damn like, and it's not the fact that it was like, it's so many factors. Like this guy was all, everyone felt bad for him. He was a French prince.
Starting point is 01:45:39 He already got walked out on. He already had to talk to his uncle about why his parents didn't want him. Powerful moment in French Prince history and TV. You lived through that with him. You live through every one of his movies where he plays. Growing up, biggest movie star. He was the version of The Rock is right now
Starting point is 01:45:56 and has been the last 10 years. The 10 years before that, it was Will Smith. had Marvel been doing shit when Will Smith was at his peak he would have been a Marvel superhero they would have invented a fucking Marvel superhero for Will Smith that they couldn't find one for him He even tried it I don't know if I Am Legend was a superhero
Starting point is 01:46:13 style movie it might have been based on a graphic novel But Hancock was awful He couldn't have played that role I think he maybe stretched out as like I can make my own superhero He flew too close to the sun No man That was his shot before Marvel popped off Yeah but like in every
Starting point is 01:46:29 one felt bad because they're like, oh shit, like this guy's not only this huge movie star everything, but his wife's fucking like abusive toward him and everything. So not only was he this like, dude, now all of a sudden you could almost have sympathy for me like, Will, like what's going on? Like what broke you dude? And then this was just like, oh, like he's not there. He's just a fucking meat puppet with fucking jaded chip implanted in his brain. there was so much afterwards too like the initial incident was crazy but the fight between people about real or fake took such a crazy term where you had people doing like five minute explanation videos about how this was staged and about how rock went with the slap instead of taking it
Starting point is 01:47:19 like you're not going to try to pull away once you see somebody wind up like this was all planned and to hear people, I'll admit, like I didn't watch it and see it live, but the first time I saw the video, like, no way, that had to have been a bit that was planned, something like that. Yeah. But after a matter... Like he saw him coming up,
Starting point is 01:47:36 maybe that wasn't planned, saw what he was about to do, and then they were going to try to, like, play into it. Hey, they both started movies. Yeah, they've both been in movies. They know what to do. And that's it. Yeah, you're seeing two actors on stage
Starting point is 01:47:46 performing almost like a live action show. But about three days into it, once you actually saw the fallout from it and saw like there wasn't, it seemed like everybody knew that Will Smith was going to have to face some sort of punishment for what happened. And depending on how bad that punishment was
Starting point is 01:48:02 was how this was potentially staged or not, like it felt like professional wrestling storyline come to life. Oh yeah. And once you kind of realized that there was silence around it and there wasn't like a big push for like a, they came out, they said we're against violence, all that kind of shit.
Starting point is 01:48:19 Everybody said that it was a horrible moment. But once the punishment, it seemed to like kind of the day's started a mount between what was going to have. It's like, okay, this is definitely real. Like, this isn't, this wasn't staged, this wasn't made up. This was a real mental breakdown that we saw happen live on TV and we'll be played. That'll be mean for fucking 10 more years at least.
Starting point is 01:48:38 And then it'll cool off and then it'll probably come back in some weird way, whatever we're doing. You almost saw like mental programming happened right there. Because he was literally like, ha, ha, ha, ha, turn. Look at my wife. And all of a sudden, I don't know if. she has a flashing lights in her eyes that flash some type of like hidden message. But he like the lights just went off. And he was just like, oh, it's Jada time now.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Was anyone looking at what she was doing? Did her eyes roll back up into like her head and she was like controlling Will? She's like walking up toward Chris. Will is that you? As he slaps, Jada. Maybe she's a fucking witch. There should have been. We should have had a separate camera on her the whole time.
Starting point is 01:49:25 Every camera was faced towards the stage. There should have been one guy that defied orders and went to her just to see. So we could see what was going on in the seats. Like, what was her reaction when the slap happened? Was it a smile? Was it shock? Was it like, oh, my God? She was controlling him.
Starting point is 01:49:38 Yeah. I'm calling it. In case you haven't noticed, like, this isn't like a violence as bad talk. I find this to be extremely funny. I find this to be a horrible result of mental abuse, years. Horrible, but just. the whole thing on the face is just
Starting point is 01:49:58 so absurd that it's all you can do is laugh about it like this is a it's sad but at the same time it's like holy shit Will Smith a childhood idol somebody that you watched
Starting point is 01:50:09 and fucking everything just walked on stage and slapped one of the funniest man to have ever lived that doesn't happen that's not real life but it was real life because it just happened
Starting point is 01:50:19 it was incredible and Chris Rock played it To get slapped that hard. Oh my God. I don't even want to imagine how many millions of dollars he's made off this for, you know, the higher tickets for his shows, everything, more dates. He called his manager and he goes,
Starting point is 01:50:37 everything that we have a show on, book his second show that next night. And it's going to sell out immediately. And he didn't see anything from like the resale of his shows that he already had booked, but you know his tour got extended by at least two or three months of that. Oh, definitely. So, and to play it off through the whole rest of the show, because it wasn't like this happened at the end. like we say, Will Smith came back on stage and got an award.
Starting point is 01:50:58 Yeah. Not a good look, Oscars. No, dude, it was just so incredible how much it played out. And that played into the fact like this is fake. Can you mention the people reading up the, and the winner is, please don't be Will Smith, please don't be Will Smith. Will Smith. Just so when the fucking orchestra playing a little bit out of tune,
Starting point is 01:51:19 as soon as he walks on stage, the presenter like witses, like, holds out the loat-arms legs. Stores He leans in to kiss her cheek And she's like Oh no Easily the winner For 2022
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