Historically High - The History of The World's Fair

Episode Date: February 15, 2023

The Eiffel Tower, The Space Needle, Monorails, Video Calling, The Ferris Wheel, Broadcast TV, X-Rays. Now that may seem like a random assortment of things but I shit you not, each of those Monuments, Inventions, Technology, were first revealed at a World's Fair. It doesn't end there....Do you like Hamburgers? Cherry Coke? The Ice Cream cone. All of these were either invented for or made their debut at a World's Fair as well. Okay enough reading just hit the play button and be amazed at how much shit you didn't know about The World's Fair...and yes it's still going on today. Support the show Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

All right. So how are you? It's been a week. Mm-hmm. It's been an absolute week. I feel like I had some fun things to roll into this week. But I've kind of forgotten about them. So yeah, I guess we've just got to go obscure.

I was thinking about this today, just being a kid. And I've been thinking a lot about youth lately. I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's like getting old. starting to think about that kind of stuff. But one of the things that I had just kind of heard and was thinking about was there was always an awkward thing that you touched yourself to as a child,

like a fairly non-sexual thing. I did not see you going to be this right. But no, I'm glad. Let's do this. This is, yeah. So for me. Let's not even warm ourselves up. No.

No. Well, this can be a warm-up. We can cut it if it gets weird. I'm assuming it's going to I don't want to cut this, regardless of what you say, regardless of what you say, I feel like I can't cut this now.

Yeah. My two crushers in kind of teenage years, because we didn't grow up with internet born, really. Like that wasn't. Oh,

well. On the tail end of it, yes, but as a child informative years, it was... I mean, I guess it depends on what you're access to. It's not like it is today.

No. And this always makes me sound like I'm fucking old as shit, but, you know, know, we were that generation that, I was thinking about this the other day, too. Like, I think the generation, you know, when they say, are you an 80s kid and 90s kid, I think whatever you were between the ages of 5 and 15, I think that's the decade that you

should probably identify yourself as a kid in. So like me being born in 85, then I would consider myself from 90 to 2000. That would be my 5 to 15. So I think you got essentially half the 90s and you got half the 2000s, right? Yeah. When did you graduate? Uh, 2008. So,

almost 95 to 2005. My grade school years were in the 90s pretty much, but that was about it. I guess before junior high. So you got the peak, you got the childhood of the peak of the 90s, of the mid to late 90s. And then also like all the like new millennium stuff and everything like as a kid to kind of see that. I like calling 2000s the aughts, the aughts. The odds. Like they used to do with the 90s or it was like odd six, out five.

mine, the two specific ones that come to my mind, one of them is sad just because you didn't realize it back then. But late night material was the, the Girls Gone Wild preview videos that they would show to try to sell the videos. Oh yeah, good old Joe Francis. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's in jail. Oh, yeah, that was probably, that was probably, around the mid-2000s when he got caught up and all that shit. And of course, that's like the least surprising thing

ever. Like what Joe Francis was fucking assaulting or like, I'm not sure what the charges were, but I can pretty much tell you along the lines of what it would be. It's like Ron Jeremy. Like when Ron Jeremy went down and he got arrested, you didn't really have to ask what he did. You should have to ask how many times you did it to.

That's the question is like, not what he did it, it's who he did it to. And thinking back on those Girls Gone Wild videos, I might have watched a video or two. but by the time I was like of legal age to get a hold of them I think it was kind of taboo and out just thinking about the infomercials though it was like five minutes long

and you might have like if it was... What time did those start coming on? Oh like after midnight I think. After midnight. And it was always on it was never you had to be watching the right channel though too So you had to be watching like Comedy Central Mm-hmm

Um probably Fox. TNT would still do that. Yeah, D&T could have. TBS would probably do that. USA Network I would think. If you weren't ready and prepared for that first couple minute. It wasn't just, you know, these weren't professionals at him. These were real girls going wild.

These could have been the girls that, you know what it did? It set the false expectation that there were more girls going wild than there actually were. College went crazy. Oh, my God. But the thing is, is then that set the false expectation that, like, girls that you knew had this possibility of doing that. but then you completely ignored the fact that like, A, it was everyone, you know what it was? I think what brought him down is there was a bunch of underage shit. Could have been.

So it wasn't girls over 18, but that's what essentially was supposed to be. Like, these girls are college girls going wild, wild, wild. But, yeah, and it also set a complete false expectation of, like, what you would be going into for college. There was never going to be, like, 10 girls at a party that would have their tits out of the party. That just wasn't going to happen. No, if you really break it down and think about it as an adult, when you look at that, you're like, man, they were probably out somewhere Arizona State. They probably had certain schools over their honeypots. Oh, absolutely.

And then it was over the course of shooting for like two weeks that they would just go out downtown and try to find someone drunk enough to be like, oh my God, is that the girl's gone wild bus? Here's my teeth. It was like an adult version of TRL. It was just them being like, woo. Yeah. Instead of holding up signs or holding up shirts. So that one was very tough. because there was no pause back then on live TV.

There was no rewind or anything. So you would have to either get yourself in the mood real quick, being a young man. You can just say it. Like you don't have to like innuendo it. You had to try to keep yourself at a hardness at an almost like semi-erect state, a roused state, just on the off chance that this commercial was going to come on. And it was a gamble because if you weren't ready the first time, you would have to continue to watch whatever was on that show.

Yeah, but at the same time, as once you hit that 11 o'clock time frame, you were almost going to hit it every other commercial. As soon as you saw that first one, it was just, it was the floodgates. As soon as you saw that first and you're like, okay, I know what the rest of my night is going to be. It's going to be trying to watch this show I probably have no interest in, in the hopes that during the commercial break, I'm going to be able to try to fucking spank myself. That was always a good one, but like I say, it was kind of a wild card. Maybe that was part of the appeal.

Yeah, it was your, you were. Can I? Am I going to be able to? I don't know. It was like trying to disarm a bomb within the two minutes and 50 seconds or whatever. Not to mention you're at home. What was your situation like at home watching this stuff? Was the TV in a public area? Like common area? You had one in your room. Okay. Which retrospect, probably not the best idea, but it served its purpose. Yeah.

That's the best part about playing video games is if you yell and scream enough in common areas, they'll just buy you a TV to put it in your room. That's true. That way they don't have to listen to you yell. Little did they know that years later that would turn into something completely different You would be using that privacy for something Yeah totally unrelated I'm playing new games

My tried and true though For the longest time Without having like private access to a computer I gotta thank the guys of Broken Lizard for this Because it was a very formative movie And probably why I love it so much But Super Troopers Okay I was trying to go through their library

in my head to see which one you were talking about. Okay. When they pull over the Germans, and he starts talking about Zayatoban, and his wife is playing with her, I could almost tell this scene, but I could explain this scene to a blind man. Oh yeah, she's got her denim skirt.

It's like a denim one piece, and she has the buttons at the bottom, and she's kind of just like rubbing her hands down her thighs. She's bringing it up, she's lifting up the jeans. You can see the panties. Then you also have the breast scene when you get to see her tits. Does he get her out of the?

of the car and they're like frisking her on the hood or something or when child to her brings her back to us bring them back to the house try to re-to-rebuild or like regroup the team for that final and they're already at thorny's house yeah yeah yep they're they're having a little group party over there and she's jumping around talking about wanting a mustache ride yeah yeah i've loved one i do i do if you fast he's wanting the mustache right though too because he wants one too yeah well they're a blast I'm sure they're a lot of fun. Never had one, but yeah, those are like in that movie,

those two scenes could really get you there to some places where you wanted to go. I'll tell you what mine was, is it was a scene off of the Stephen Segal classic Under Siege. The one where they hijack the USS, what was it? It was the USS Missouri, the battleship, the one that's parked in Pearl Harbor right now. I'm so glad I brought this up, the fact that this is tied to, you're tied to Steven Seagal in this way. Some, yeah. Unfortunately, yes.

He wasn't weird back then. He was just doing bad action movies. He's done the point. But it's the scene where like the, I don't know if it's like the mess hall. They were supposed to use it for like the admiral that's traveling with them,

like his retirement party. So they get a stripper. And there's a big cake right in the middle big fake cake. Well, they drug the stripper. So she passes out. And she doesn't actually like pop out until like Stephen and Seagull's character is like walking through.

He's got like his fucking gun. He's just killed some guys. And all of a sudden like the music hits and she pops out of the cake. And she's wearing nothing but like a, it seems like an officer's jacket and a hat. And she, man, that was, there was a, I wouldn't be surprised if I wore out that tape. Just trying to read that section became grainy.

Because it was just like a 15 to 20 second section. She was just dancing top list and it would just be like, and rewind that and play and rewind that. play. You had to get a little too long. Back in the old tube TVs when you'd turn off the TV and you'd still kind of see the image on the screen. That would even happen on like early big screen TVs.

Yeah. The image would be burned in there. You just go to turn off the TV after you're done using it and you still see her popping under the cake. You're like, oh no. You got to wait there until it phase. You got to turn on the TV to like sports center or something like that to try to get that image off the screen.

Did you ever almost get caught? Not even like in the act of like touching yourself, but like pulling stuff up to watch it or anything. Uh, not pulling stuff up to watch it. Um, the closest time I got caught was in the afterglow. Okay. Which, you know, the, the feeling of sitting there with the 50-50 sense of accomplishment and dread all at the same time. Oh yeah, you feel so satisfied with the same time. It's this weird, shameful satisfaction. A lot of shame at it. And my dad came... You're thinking real clear about what you just did and what you just looked at.

You know, that feeling fades, obviously, because you're back at it, you know, the next day or whatnot. But, Yeah, it doesn't linger. But that was, my pops caught me in that afterglow. And I could tell that our conversation became very tense at that point. And it was never brought up as what was going on in here. But he left very soon thereafter. Things were a little weird for the next couple days. One of those unspoken agreements is like, listen, you can be caught doing this.

Just so we're both aware. So maybe take precautions next time to make sure that I'm not walking into something. Yeah, it's not my fault. They didn't put a lock on my door. That's their fault. So maybe he felt a little guilty in there, too. I remember I was pulling up something online, and it was over when my mom got remarried. So it was over at my stepdad at the time of his house.

And the computer room was separate from all the other rooms. That's where I would do my Napster download and everything like that. And it was a still image, you know, when it had to download in sections. So first it would be cranny as shit, and then from the bottom up, it would start depixulating. You just hear the computer tower just working at it. ass off. Oh yeah. And then you were just, it was almost like going back to Super Troopers, enhance.

And it would enhance. And then three minutes later it would reload it. This was dial up, man. And you were just hoping like, of course it was late night so you didn't expect a phone call. But it wasn't like today where you can literally pop it up and just watch a video and, you know, streaming just on your phone like immediately. And this was something that an image itself almost took five minutes just to get you. the actual image itself.

So as bad as it sounds, like you'd be looking at the image. Most of the time you didn't even make it to the full image. Once that bottom half got depixilated enough to see what you were after, and the top half was still depixulating, but at the same time, you knew what it was going to show.

Yeah. I don't, I couldn't, I couldn't count on two hands how many times I made it to that picture being complete. I don't think I could count on one hand, because as soon as the mission is accomplished. Well, I mean, you can only count on one hand during it. Yeah, okay. But at the same time, it would be one of those situations where you would get done.

You'd be in the bathroom, getting everything done, and then you'd come back in the picture finally was completing. You're like, well, I don't need you now. Yeah, we've... Oh, this is what you look like. We've reached the mountaintop. We don't need to continue on to finish this up. It's a... I'm glad that those times don't have to happen anymore.

But, man, we really, really lived through some shit at that. point in time because if you didn't have anything else to distract you during your load up time you were sitting there watching it and if you didn't have a anything else to do and you were just sitting watching that picture forehead might do it for you at that point just with the anticipation like you get maybe some eyes up position it was loading from if the eyes are closed and the mouth is kind of a gap you're like oh this is going to be good and then you start warming at the engine before you know it you're your imagination takes over at that point it doesn't even matter with the rest of the picture.

Yeah, she could have tentacles at that point. It doesn't really matter. Yeah. You're ready to go. You get done. You're like, oh, man, this is what I was doing it to. I did not see this coming. That kind of goes in the line also what we're going to be talking about today, but I was kind of curious about this is we're in this weird time where what stands out to you as like the most like, like, holy shit thing that's come into being since we've been alive. like if you had to see something and you were like I never imagined that we would have that would it be the internet I think it I think it personally would be that that would be our

biggest essential like not even advancement but almost like a luxury or convenience that you would have no idea prior to it that there was what you were missing out on and I'm not just talking about in the porn department or anything like that just the simple fact that you would be able to look up stuff and get information and see things that unless you traveled somewhere where those things were prevalent, that you would never

get to see them. Like, especially now if you were, let's remember having like book reports and like projects and stuff like that in school. And you'd have to go through the Encyclopedia Britannica to find your stuff. Yeah, you'd have to go and find out stuff from, you know, pull out different versions of it because some were updated, some weren't. And, or you had to go and find, you know, the National Geographic Articles. So you'd be in the library looking through what are they call them the periodicals, everything

where they would just have all the additions of the magazines that you could go look through and try to find the one that was, you know, you were trying to do a project on ancient Egypt. I don't think there's a sense of like, you know, when you hear like an older person or your parents talk about, oh, back in my day, yeah, things were like you had to do a lot more legwork

to get a lot less information. Now we want to look at something and, you know, you would do a project on like the pyramids or some shit like that. and you would just be looking at images and the only images available to you were professional photographers or historical photographers

or National Geographic had shot of the pyramids. You never got like any pictures of fucking Bob and Judy standing next to the pyramid showing you like and then you're like that's how fucking big the blocks are. You never got almost that perspective or anything when you started seeing images and videos from people being able to show you these things.

You're like, oh fuck, like that's amazing. Like I never knew this stuff. And basically the things, What our topic today is exactly that. I tried to put myself in the mindset of like, how would it feel if you had never, you grew up in a smaller rural town and you went to one of these events

and the things that you saw had to just be, like they looked like wizardry to you, like magic. To grow up in the 1800s in the English countryside and not have a lot of money, that all of a sudden you hear that England is going to host a world's fair. How do you explain that to somebody? And then how do you explain to them,

we're going to go inside this convention center that's built of just glass and metal. And it's just a big... Bigger than anything you've seen before. Yeah. There's no way that you can explain the size and sheer magnitude, just of that. Like, what's plate glass? Well, let's just jump into it because then it'll kind of explain what we're talking about. So we are talking about essentially the history of the world's fair.

and most people have probably heard the term World's Fair, but most probably don't have an actual knowledge about it or any information really passed like a cursory kind of knowledge. I was watching something they were doing kind of a like Billy on the street type pole type, you know, the Jay Leno shit, like we're just talking to people on the street. Yeah, there's a main on the street bit. You know, do you know what the World's Fair is?

And they're like, yeah, I've heard about it. I heard my parents talking about it at one point or I've seen things about it like, is it still going on right now? this was recent. This was within the 2010s and to now. And most people will be like, no, there's no world's fair going on right now. Well, there have been world fairs going on since the inception.

Pretty consistently. Yeah, exactly consistently. There's just since we've been participants as far as a country, the United States being participants, that's why I think most people don't know that these things are still going on. We have little vague pop cultural references.

I feel like I remember a Simpsons episode where they did a world fair. or went to World Fair and then the First Men in Black. Yep, so the scene on the First Men in Black where they're in New York and they go to what's called Flushing Meadows in Queens. And you see it's where...

The cockroach guy is trying to escape. In his Edgar suit? Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, he, that's one of the spaceships. One of the two like unregistered or still flyable spaceships are the two structures that were created for the New York World's Fair.

And they basically do look like fucking flying saucers sitting on top of these pillars. And there's the huge globe that has like a couple of rings going around it. That's like the big statue where it actually flies through that and destroys it. Oh, yeah, that's right. So those are actual landmarks from a World's Fair that took place in New York. Another good example is Iron Man, Iron Man 2, I believe, where instead of being a World's Fair, what they call it is Tony Stark's dad started this thing called the Stark Expo.

Okay, so the Expo. Okay, yeah. The World's Fair is a term that we only use, weirdly enough, that is really only in use when people from the United States are describing it. Like most of the rest of the world knows it as like an expo, like the World's Expo or something like that. An exhibition or an exposition? And so, yeah, so in Iron Man, too, at the very beginning of it, he's at the Stark Expo. And basically what it is is it's just the Marvelized or comic book version of the World's Fair where, they're getting people from all around the world together to essentially show off all of their shit.

And that's really what, when you boil it down to what these things are, is it was, it's basically like a version of the Olympics, except instead of, you know, rolling out your best athlete for the events, it's like rolling out your intellectual property. And kind of trying to flex on the world with your advancements and what you've, you know, done previous to the last World's Fair and what you've shown. then. Yeah, what did we decide on it? It's the best way to describe it would be... Oh, I told you to remember this. It was Comic-Con having sex with the Smithsonian inside of Disneyland in Epcot Center. That's exactly what it was.

It's like an orgy between those things. It's, you're throwing very nerdy stuff. We'll talk about some of kind of the things that came out of it because there was like the first sci-fi convention came out of a world's fair, which is kind of cool, so you get that aspect of it. But then it's so much history of the area. These things were, for lack of a better way to say it, sort of like a flex of the Western world, like a, sort of a, like this is how colonialism is great, this is what it brings to us, this is what it provides. It was basically a way to show all the positive aspects, regardless of what it took to get there. Like, I know we've taken over

all these countries, but hey, look at all this shit that we got. Or look at all this stuff that we created because of it. Yeah, all these inventions that we've come up with because we've been able to take resources from these colonies that we have. Yeah, and I think Epcot is probably a really good comparison to it. Just people that have been there

where they have each individual, like, and I think it's kind of been boiled down more so where Epcot is like food and beverage stalls from the other countries. They have that thing where, I think that was my big selling point to try to get you to Disney World, was eating and drinking around the world. Yeah, that sold me.

But then just on it dialed up, sked or dialed up kind of um fuck oh I kind of remember this word like a dialed up scale but then you're also just throwing a whole bunch of like cultural and technological technological advancements in there yeah they

it wasn't just like the the one host country like it wasn't just all about them they invited tons and tons of other countries to come and have exhibits to have displays in some cases as the

World's Fair grew, they would actually have their own buildings constructed in kind of the main area of it. And that was kind of the cool part of it too was since it only happened so often, it kind of like it was for a while there, it was kind of on an Olympic type scale where it was maybe they kind of had a schedule where it was every maybe four years, five years, but then depended on that success, I feel like they did kind of get ahead of themselves in some circumstances, especially the United States, kind of got ahead of ourselves trying to plan these things, where we started throwing them together every, like, what, two years? Yeah.

And then because of that, of course, like, one of them, I think that we scheduled, and we'll go back to the beginning and talk about it more in depth, but we scheduled one of them at the same time, like that the Olympics were taking place in the United States. And then they were like, well, why is attendance down for this? It's like, you're fucking competing with the Olympics. If somebody's trying to plan a trip and they're like, well, we got the Olympics or we got the World's Fair, regardless, you're going to get a draw away from the World's Fair to go to the Olympics, especially because they weren't even in the same region of the United States. And then they

were like, well, this didn't do too well. And I think the U.S. kind of used that as an excuse after a few less than stellar showings for the World's Fair. They kind of used that almost as an excuse to kind of back out of it. Well, there were some countries that did host them both at the same time kind of in conjunction. But the way that it worked would be usually the World's Fair would run for about six months. Yeah, three to six months, I think is what they said. Yeah, they would try to buttress it up to like the ending of that is the beginning of the

Olympics because a lot of them would end around like August sometime in there. So you're summer in Olympics. You're either hitting winter or summer Olympics as far as that goes, depending on when it's scheduled. So you're just going to try to bring in the masses and a lot of these did, man. I was shocked at the number of people. And granted, over six months, you can kind of estimate that. out, but some of them that were going to talk about, like, some of them had 44 million people there

over a six-month period. They all, for a while there, the reason that they were so prevalent and why they kept doing them is because the attendance kept going up as word of, word of mouth kind of spread for what the last one held. And depending on how much they spent on these places, it would pale in comparison to the amount of money that it would inject into the economy with all these people coming. So sometimes they took a loss and a lot of that, I think, is sort of the Olympic strategy and the Olympic model is to bury billions of dollars into it, not turning a profit on the games,

but just having your economy explode with all this traveler money. Yeah. Not just that, but then you're also banking on kind of like the same thing with the World's Fair. The infrastructure, that's the thing that almost amazed me the most about these types of things.

Let's get into where it kind of started because a lot of the talk about, like, the landmarks and what would you consider what they would build as kind of like the centerpieces for these. Like, because each country would build kind of like a centerpiece as the theme or almost as like kind of the token of that world's fair. And a lot of these things are still not only just like standing or still around, but they're so embedded within like the culture of where that took place that most people don't even know that these places or these structures or these buildings were even associated with a world's fair. And they're, yeah, they're their world landmarks.

They're actually spots that whoever controls the landmarks of the world will declare them like historical points. And some of them met a pretty bad end, a lot of fires. But part of it was they would build these. I almost want to call them cathedrals, but that's not really the right word. It's not going to lie to you, man, the way I looked at some of these when you see the images of these buildings. I don't know other ways to describe a comparison than to almost like a cathedral. or like recreations of places. Yeah.

Yeah, something along that kind of a line of, because there will be some that we'll talk about like Chicago when they first hosted theirs, it kind of shaped their architecture from there on out. It shaped the architecture for the country, they said, for like 25 years. For the entire country, too, not just Chicago. So that was a super big landmark.

But a lot of them could be constructed and then deconstructed if they didn't need. need them anymore. But we also not only saw kind of the main drag, I would say probably like the main stadium that they used for the opening and closing the Olympics. Like the main pavilion or whatever

it would be. The main pavilion. But not only did they build those, it was an exercise and architecture outside to have something just massive that you can keep around. We'll talk about a couple of those that I was really surprised by. I

probably had 20% knowledge of World's Fairs going into this. I probably had less. From things that I've been interested in. Mine was more like pop culture type references and things like that, especially going over and I know we're just kind of like dancing around actually getting into like the history of it. But I think the biggest thing to take away from this is what was introduced to society's a whole at these World's Fair that we have no idea that this was like the first introduction of these things.

Whether it be food, whether it be technology, whether it be technology, whether it would be cultural stuff, whether it would be architectural. There's a huge, I think, lack of knowledge about, like, hey, where did this come from? What was the inspiration for this? Like, oh, this was actually during a World's Fair. Yeah. And we'll get into some of the things that popped up during these other times. Why don't you tell me about the first one?

So our first one was called The Great Exhibition. It was held in Hyde Park in London, 1851, and they held it from May 1st, October 15th. So a good stretch close to six months. But it was actually England's answer to a French fair that had happened before that. It was just strictly mainly the French in their colonies. So it was England and France have always kind of had that duel. I'm sure the English channel being between them probably creates a natural rivalry. And just through their colonialism and the lands that they've conquered,

they've always kind of been in competition. I'm sure, especially depending. know, with such a shared history of rulers going back and forth and having that kind of shared lineage and everything, there had to be a natural competition. Yeah, and that's basically what London did. When they fired it up, their official name was the great exhibition, the works of industry, of all nations. I love the fact that each one gets to pick, like, a specific title. Their motto? Yeah, their motto and what it is.

Man, so everyone have their, if you're able to, you're not driving, kind of have your phones out. just because some of the stuff we're going to describe to you, the imagery of it, you know, I'm not going to do it justice to describe what it is. But if you see these things, and then you kind of put yourself in the mindset of when these were created, you can try to get a sense of, like, how innovative these things were.

So the big, you know, centerpiece for London's World's Fair was a place called the Crystal Palace. Sounds whimsical. It does. And when you look at it, basically, it looks like, I mean, a cross between like, what I would imagine, you know, when you see images of like giant train stations or train depots over in like Europe and everything? And there's these Union Station in New York.

Yeah, exactly. But completely made of nothing but what iron and glass. It was an iron frame. And then it was the big thing was it was plate glass. And I guess plate glass was this new thing. Like people didn't know that you could create floor to ceiling pieces of glass. Yeah, depending on the thickness and the tensile strength of it, you could go bigger and bigger and bigger. And that was kind of the, when I look at it, to me, it looks like across between, like you said, a train station, but then like a geodesic dome home a little bit.

Like a greenhouse almost. Yeah, greenhouse is kind of the perfect thing. And they realized that that was a really good deal to have because you didn't have to pay for electricity, which was sort of shoddy back then, but was around. You didn't have to pay for electricity during the day. So at night was the only time you'd have to worry about it. I'm sure they probably closed down in a decent hour. I'm sure once it got to the point where people couldn't see and there wasn't a lot of light coming into the building, which you could stretch that out for a long-ass time because the whole thing is fucking made a glass.

Then you were able to kind of shut down. So I'm sure this wasn't something that was open after hours, but just the simple fact that this was something that people had never seen before, like architecture or like innovation as far as building like on this scale. Like imagine walking in there and you've never seen, you have windows on your house. house, but you don't understand. This is still at a time. You know, glass and, like, pottery and all that kind of stuff has been around for a long time,

but the invention of, you know, clear glass. And if you're just used to seeing just a window in your house, then all of a sudden you walk in, you're like, this whole fucking place is made of windows. It's all window. How is this structurally standing? Like, there's no wood. There's no, nothing. Like, no, it's just the iron structure holding up all of this glass.

Would you be fearful of that, too, walking in? Would you be like, what if this shit breaks? Like, I'm not. Who did this? Like, I don't know if I trust. I trust this place. Yeah, it's very scary. Yeah, I don't know how I would feel about being the first person to walk in there and being like, okay, this seems structurally sound.

The other really scary part about it was when they were laying the plate glass in there, they didn't really have a solid, firm structure to hold everything together. So there wasn't like silicone, really, or like good buddy. Yeah, like bonding agents or the ability to probably like, I mean, I'm sure they'd probably probably. had a way to like tap holes and glass very carefully. But I would imagine when it comes to the roof that a lot of that was gravity-based, just like laying plates down and just hope nothing could move them. I mean, I'm sure they were insanely heavy being like the first development of them. Everything tends to already always be heavier.

They'd said that when it would rain, they would get certain random leaks and they would have to send people up there and they would try to spackle and putty it. So by the end of it, it just looked like it was covered in bird shit beyond the other bird shit because there was just, big spackle marks. Over six months of trying to plug these leaks up and everything. And I imagine in England it probably rains a decent amount, so it was probably raining all the time. Oh, yeah. One of the

one of the really cool things that I think sort of came out of this, 44 countries participated. There was over 13,000 exhibits. That seems like a hell of a lot, or maybe it was 1,300 exhibits. Is it the 990,000

square feet? Was that just the Crystal Palace? Yeah. Just the Crystal Pallets. itself. That tends to put things in a portion and everything. Like if you have a home and your home's like my home's like 2,000 square feet, you're like, so it's how many of that? That's fucking crazy.

Yeah, you're like 0.25% of even coming close to it. It was 128 feet high too, which 100 feet in the air is really, really high. Well, like you said, when you see it, it almost looks like the middle of it is like a cathedral. Uh-huh. Yeah. Which I mean

makes sense because that was the proven building, if you're going to build something tall and like with a dome on it, you just looked in, you're like, oh, I'm just going to fucking copy the cathedral over in Europe. It's been standing for this long. It's got to be structurally sound. And it's just a grand look. It really draws the eye.

It's why it's still used today. There's something about it that says old world stability, like not class, but almost like a gravitas or something like that to it. Unfortunately, Crystal Palace only lasted up till 36. And then somehow, I guess there must have been wood structures inside of it, a fire destroyed it. That's pretty fucking good. Yeah.

1851 to 1836. Especially when things back then had way more of a pension to burn. I'll also probably say this, that if a fire hadn't destroyed it in 1936, there's probably a pretty decent chance that it would have fucking been destroyed during the fucking bombings. And that seems like it would have been a pretty big target for the Germans to hit. It probably is better that it went out this way than just have a fucking bomb dropped on it. Because I could guarantee you right now that if they're picking out targets and this thing still existed. Numero, no.

Yeah. better to go out of the Viking funeral. Well, some of the other things, too, that got kind of introduced during this, what they considered the first World's Fair of the modern era, the one in London, the first paid toilets. So they would cost a penny. And there's still a saying over in Britain that it's like, I'm going to drop a penny or I'm going to, like, donate a penny.

And it's their way of saying I'm going to the bathroom. That's a nice way to put it. Yeah. obviously it didn't take them long to figure out that they should do season tickets so you buy one ticket I mean I'm sure they had day-to-day tickets for people you know coming and visiting but they did have season tickets and the cost would have been what they considered it was called a guinea so it was three guineas that's a rough term I don't know how to spell that but yes it doesn't sound like the best term equivalent to day four hundred forty three dollars so I mean four hundred forty three dollars and you could go

to this place as many times you wanted during the, you know, six to, or three to six month, period that it was still happening. And during that time, it attracted the attendance, I think, was about six million. Which was a fifth of England's population at that time. So, I mean, yeah, you're doing it in London, but that's the thing. Like, hey kids, you know, you're in the countryside. Hey, kids, guess what? I heard of this thing. Like, how also did people hear about it? I know you had, like, did you have, was radio at this time? Did you have any radio at this time? this would have been super early for radio if there was. It would have been because we're talking 1850s.

So even if you had radio, you probably had someplace in your town that then disperse the news out to you. Like how would imagine them being described this like, the world's fair coming to, you know, England. See, modern Marvel, you'd be like, what even is this stuff? A new way to like plow a field? Let's go. Load up the kids in the wagon. Yeah, because it wouldn't have cars back then. So it would have been you'd probably have to make your.

way down to the trains. They probably took trains there. But even then the infrastructure wouldn't have been great to bring you to this place. You would have probably had to have done horses, wagons, anything like that. And I, this is another just soft spot in my brain that I can't figure out.

So Queen Victoria was the ruler of England at this time. The whole thing was organized by your husband. Prince Albert. I don't know how a queen marries a prince. Wouldn't he be the king? No, because you You could have if it would, they might not have been married.

Were they married? Yeah. Oh, I have no idea that happened then. But I would assume that when you said Queen Victoria and then Prince Albert have been the queen and her son. Like a queen, who was the last one was Elizabeth? Who was the one that just said? Yeah, and then Prince Charles. That's how I kind of see it like her kid.

But didn't. I don't know. Didn't they have the king that died? Wasn't, didn't she have a husband that was like a walking zombie for a really long time? I think maybe No, because isn't it It's not the one that you marry that takes the crown It's the one that's hereditarily supposed to take it

Yeah, that's why he may have had He wasn't technically He may have been, that's probably why they do it He probably never got to be You didn't ascend to it So they were probably married while she was princess Elizabeth He was prince Whatever his name was or whatever

In this situation if they're married She was Princess Victoria at some point He was Prince Albert when she then goes to be queen, there's only one monarch. It's not like a king and queen because that would cause confusion. So she gets to become queen, he gets to still remain the title of prince, which I guess that does sound kind of confusing. Yeah, super confusing.

And just to cut the tension in the room, this is where the piercing Prince Albert came from, was an old story about Prince Albert having a massive hog. He was worried about his print and his pants. So he pierced himself, then put a weight on it so it would keep his hog down so it wouldn't look funny. That's the origination of that is supposed to come from.

That's supposedly where it came from. That's like a myth. That's like a myth. Yeah. Good on him. Congratulations for Prince Albert. And his giant British hog. Yeah.

Just a very weird part of this that really has absolutely nothing to do with it, but just wanted to get into the history of Prince Albert. But when the, they actually, I think, turned a pretty decent profit through this whole entire thing. And it may not have been a super big profit compared to what they put into it.

But it just, this lit a fire that traveled pretty much all around the world. We've hit, I think it's been on five continents. Yeah, I'm sure it has been. I mean, and it sounded like kind of from the start, at least back and forth for the first three, it was kind of a competition essentially

between like the European powers. Yeah. And so, because the next. one that came off of this was back into France in 1855. That one had 15. It already went from six. And of course, it's going to depend on the population

of where you're actually from. Out of that 6 million people, I'm willing to bet a large percentage of that 6 million at London's World's Fair were people native to English. Yeah, exactly. And so now it's going to be based upon, you know, Paris itself, I think is where it actually, this

one took place. I would assume that these are taking place in Paris. I don't know what city the one in France in 1855 took place in, but I think France itself has just a larger population. Plus, from, you know, a standpoint of like where other countries in Europe could get there by train and everything, it was more accessible. You're not having to cross the English channel. You know, take a voter over there. Yeah. So France was like, okay, we're going to step this shit up. So they introduced a

fine arts pavilion. This thing had over 5,000 works of art. You were right. It was in Paris. Okay. 5,000 works of art from 29 different countries. Artists from 29 different countries. 5,000 pieces of art. Like, they just, the escalation between what they were going to do. And, of course, that's kind of the thing that France was known for, was, you know. What they're still known for today.

The Renaissance, all that kind of. Well, no, wait, that was Italy. There was a French Renaissance. I'm sure there was. I'm sure there was a lot of art in France, but again, from 29 different countries. And this was like you were talking about, like, if they're breaking even or if they're getting profit off of this, it did lose money. But basically, because of the kind of prominence it placed on France and just the visual of people coming in to even after the World's Fair to see stuff from the World's Fair. Because some stuff got left up, some stuff got taken down. They were like, yeah, I lost money, but the government still sponsored more.

Expos in like 1867, 78, 89, 1900, because every single year the attendance would consistently beat the last one. So like, we're getting more people in this. Well, and it's like we talked about in the beginning. This was just a flex for the country. And it wasn't only showing off all your innovations, but it was just bringing people into your country to kind of be immersed in the culture to then carry that back out. And like you said, too, how many, you know, these people that are attending this expo, 15 million attendees. True.

There's probably a good portion of these people that lived in a general area around it that came in to see it. But while they're there, they're doing nothing but having to buy food,

by lodging, everything like that. It is like you're saying. It's like a version, you know, a different version of the Olympics that you're not banking on sponsorship

or anything like that. You're banking on the boom that you're going to get from everyone buying shit while they're there. The economy is going to go through the roof. And it's also

probably a pretty good look to, secure this because anybody that's a voter that is working in an industry where you're going to get paid out by that, it's just a huge boom. You're just looking forward to every four or five years that it comes to your country. You're just like, this guy keeps, you know, keeps getting us this world's fair, these politicians, or whoever the government is supporting it. You're like, of course we're going to keep them in office. They're creating this huge economic boom every few years. Yeah, they wasted a little bit of money. They didn't make their money back, but they made us money. What was the name of the like overseen body that was created? Because it was French. Because I remember the name for the World's Fair Internet.

It was something about like the exposition de Nacional. Or it's like some shit like that like industry or innovation or some shit. But it was French. And so the governing body actually was a French like department. I can't recall what the name was. Yeah, it's a I think it's letters. but then also stand for words. Yeah, but it's an acronym.

Yes. Yeah. The B.I.E. The Bureau Internacional des Expositions. The Bureau de Nacional de Exposition. Yeah, that's, yeah, headquarters in Paris, France. So French as fuck. The president's name is Choi Jai Shul.

And so basically just think it's the Olympic Committee is what it is. It's the international and the IOC is how it is IOC. Yeah, they award them just like they do with the World Cup too. There's a governing body that awards these different sites. And I think they were like nowadays we schedule Olympics out. I want to say like probably three or four games. So at least 12 years. These guys were right around like six.

Yeah. And that's what's almost so crazy about this is, you know, you had to get technically to have an official World's Fair. had to get the approval of this governing body to have them, like, have their legitimacy to it. But this is still crazy because nowadays, there's still World's Fair is going on. They're spaced apart, think, a little bit more.

But you think of all of the things that have to be built. Remember, like, when the Winter Olympics were in, like, Park City? And it's like, Park City is just this little town that that's where they do, like, Sundance and everything. It's not a huge town. But basically between, like, Salt Lake and all that stuff, they had to develop all of the winter. Inter-Olympic events.

All of the Luge stuff, bob sledding courses, the ski runs, all that kind of stuff. Think of it now in the sense of like a summer Olympics where you're having to create stadiums that you don't already have. And that's why I think a lot of times these, what we're talking about now where the Olympics have it, you know, a few games in advance, 10, 12 years, whatever it is. It gives them a chance to kind of build all this stuff up. Well, you're trying to build all this stuff between countries in like four or five years. Mm-hmm.

And your ability to do. these things is nowhere near what it is now. Well, and not only are you building your stuff, the host country essentially, yeah, you were in charge of essentially getting the land developed, getting that already, building your pavilions. But then at a certain point, I think coming up pretty soon in these world fairs is then each country would then be responsible for building their own venue. You would basically tell, here's your plot of land, build something on it.

And so you would have these countries that were having contests between people in their own country, architects and everything, for bids to see, hey, build a lot of land. build us a building that says, Chile. We want the, we want people to look at this building and be like, that's the Canadian building without even seeing it's the Canadian. Like, you would have buildings. We want that architecture. We want the way that it's built a certain way. So it was, you would walk into these places and you would just be walking into something that you're getting so much culture and different, like, different, like, visualizations for different parts of the world.

I would say that the first one was definitely a success. But it was, like we were saying, just building blocks. because as soon as they saw the first one, everybody was trying to outdo the next one. It was escalation the entire time. Yeah. And America kind of went a different route, I think, with the namings. We tended to name ours after certain events.

Our first one that was held in the U.S. was in Philadelphia, of course, very fitting. 1876. It was the centennial exposition. So we'd been around. We'd been established for 100 years. We're rip-roaring and ready to go. and we're ready to show the world that we not only beat France or beat England,

but then we also beat our own people. And we were ready to go. Lots happened since the last time you guys came over and saw us. Come come see what we've done. How much in, this is going to sound weird, in 1876, how much of the United States is actually like states? I didn't look into that, but I'm just wondering, like, because it's in Philadelphia, obviously, that's one of the first established, like, colony cities and everything within the, So that makes sense why also with, you know, Independence Hall, everything being drafted there, it made sense.

I'm just wondering if the United States was fully the United States even at this point. I don't think there was a full 50. I don't think there was a full 50 either. That's crazy to think. Be like, we're not done yet, though. We still got some shit that we haven't figured out over West. Yeah, we haven't run enough natives off their land yet. Give us a few more years.

But come see what we've done so far. We've only been around for 100 years. Come check this shit out. That one actually got it just under. It wasn't as huge as, you know, the previous French World's Fair. But this one's still being in the continental United States, 100 years since the founding of our country, just a hair under 10 million attendees.

That's so many people. Well, dude, the exhibits that were shown at this are things that we still use today. Oh, yeah? A couple notable ones. Well, we don't use this, but they had the largest steam engine ever built, which was 700 tons. It was called the coreless engine. 700 tons?

700 tons. It was the largest steam engine ever built. Probably didn't really move that much. They probably built it on site, I would imagine. 100 foot of tracks just to show it off. I don't even know if it was an actual steam engine in the sense of like a locomotive. I think it may have just been like a big engine. And then you could use it for a factory or something like that.

It was just supposed to show you how powerful you could harness, like the scale that you could harness steam. Telephone? Huge, very huge. Alexander Graham Bell, I believe, is the one that was there to show it off. And of course, this is taking place over, you know, like we said, period of three to six months.

Imagine that first week when everyone is trying to just go all out and it's the greatest things you've ever seen. So that's where you're getting, like we just said, telephone, the typewriter and the mechanical calculator. I don't even know what that is. It would be, I guess,

the advancement of the abacus. An adding machine. something that wasn't moved by by humans. You know, I always envision the mechanical calculator being the thing when someone's junior taxes

and they got the visor on that has the clear green bill and it's like chuk chok and they pull it back. And they keep doing the what you would imagine if someone's crunching the numbers doing that.

I think as far as sewing machines go, I think it was just the sheer mass of sewing machines like just putting it out to the mass public because I'm sure there were sewing machines before then. I'm sure, but these are probably

sewing machines that are Singer. Yeah, something that's something that you're not cranked by your hand or having to move back and forth to foot pedal. It might have had some type of power to it. Also, a very cool point. This was the first World's Fair that actually had a women's pavilion. So a pavilion just solely set up. Oh, how progressive.

Yeah, well, it took them a long time. And the only reason that they had a women's pavilion was because that they refused to put any women in the men's pavilion for innovation. I would imagine, too, it was probably kind of a... Bless you. Sorry, I didn't... Bless you. Is it coming to a third? All right. Oh.

Maybe. Nope. There we go. Got them all out. Okay. It's the last bless you. It's got to be a business decision. Because everybody essentially, you know, you're only appealing to 50% of the population if you're only doing this strictly for men.

And I know, women aren't going to, you know, be like, you know, honey, we're going to the world's fair. Keep me quiet, you. You're going to taste the back of my hand. They didn't want to fill these women with ideas that they could do things. I think it was more so the fact that it was something to wear. It's the same thing if you're trying to plan a place to go that has some interest for your significant other. You're trying to be able to sell them on that. Being saying like, hey, we're going to go to the world's fair.

I'm going to go see the biggest fucking steam engine. Honey, what's there to do for me? Oh, baby, don't worry. They got a women's pavilion, something just for you, which I'm sure showed all the modern advances in kitchenware and cleaning and all that kind of. stuff. So I forgot which one it was, but I think it was over in France. One of them had certain, um, like an exposition building with like workshops and shit like dishwashing, um, laundry. Oh, fourth. Dishwashing laundry. Like all this house cleaning stuff. Like they were showing tutorials for women of how to keep a cleaner house. Like that's, that's, that's, it's just.

just a wild move to have like, hey, we have all these latest advances. It's a balsy move, cotton. Let's see how it works out for him. Thank you so much, honey, for taking me here to show me that I'm washing the dishes and doing our laundry wrong. Yeah, I was counterclockwise instead of clockwise. All right, well, we take a break from class and take care of some business.

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Maybe, you know, let them know exactly how many repetitions to do for the washboard to get the, like, you must do a minimum of 20 repetitions on the washboard to get your husband's skidmark squeaky clean. Like, ever since I took the misses to the World's Fair, my underwear have never been cleaner. I didn't get any cleaner. I didn't learn anything at the World's Fair as far as my cleanliness. I just learned what I wanted. I learned that there's this new thing called like television or like telephone that I can talk to people. Someone not in my household.

Something that I can watch or watch while she cleans everything up. So wasn't that one also where the other thing too that I think doesn't ever get brought up is like weird like food innovations. Yeah. That got brought up, which is crazy because if you really do think about it, you have so many, you know, millions of people coming into this one location. you have to have a quick and easy way that you can sell these people food food on the go food to take with you while you're walking around um yeah these were like the we had fair fairs before this like carnivals and shit like state fairs yeah but those were also a combination of what like music they would have like a stage where like acts would perform you then had like a little bit of a carnival but then was also like a livestock yeah like that's what it was like you won blue ribbon in the state fair like that kind of stuff so we had carnival food but not to this kind of gigantic thing. Well, because not only you know, a fair, state fair,

you only have the state or the location trying to just come up with what's convenient. And you probably had a ton of like local fare. I mean, F-A-R-E on that. So like you would have local food. So it would be food from the region or if you're

at a state fair in Wisconsin, you're probably going to get some cheese curds, a lot of different cheat, like dairy type stuff. You're at a world's fair. It's innovations that are having to appeal to a whole scope of people so you're getting a little bit riskier with like your food choices which is weird to say that maybe like popcorn and ketchup and root beer were a risky but at the same time like they're risky sure these things have been around on a small scale in certain regions or certain parts of the world

but to like introduce somebody to like ketchup or root beer and be like so what is this it's made from roots like in the ground yeah you you know this country discovered how to go ahead and make And isn't it isn't rubier just like molasses soda? It's an actual root that comes from the ground You squeeze the extract from and yeah then it's just a lot of sugar Yeah Which like sasparilla is kind of the same So I'm assuming they had a lot of the same stuff

I just always associate sasperilla with like old westerns Yeah Like if someone wasn't going into a saloon to get whiskey It was like a sasperilla Like I'm driving the horse's home tonight I'll take a sasparilla I got a root beer root beer Somebody's got a gun to my head

I can't be drunk I think that it's kind of I mean, I assume that a ketchup had to have been American just because it's tomatoes that we just throw a shit load of sugar in. I feel like it's a bastardized version of tomato sauce. Yeah.

Yeah, this was... We didn't want to go through the work of making like actual tomato sauce with all of like the oregano and all that kind of stuff. And we're like, how can we just make this to squirt it on shit? Sugar, garlic, onion powder. Bingo. It's all you.

you got to put in there to make it just delicious. Do you think that they also, because I think they also use ketchup to use for like a substitute for pasta like tomato sauce before they even try to use it more like as a condiment? Yeah, I'm sure that I think like you're talking about it, I think redneck people still do that. It's probably cheaper to make than tomatoes.

It was more processed, more filler in it and everything. This was a Jeff Foxworthy marinerer sauce. Oh, definitely. Yes. Yes. And I know the next one you want to jump. too is the Colombian, which is a weird name because that's misleading to where it actually was.

Before that one, this was 1889, so 13 years after the one in Philadelphia. That was where Paris actually unveiled the Eiffel Tower as their like centipiece for the world's part. That's fucking crazy. You don't ever think that that was built for anything but just like French pride and it was. It was. It was the quintessential Parisian, if not French, landmark. It's the one place you want to go see

when you go to France. If you showed someone the Eiffel Tower, where is this? Fucking France. Yep. And then Paris. But have you seen like scale? Like when you see the Eiff Tower, you think it almost is kind of small the way you're looking at it. And then you get a scale picture of someone standing next

to one of the legs. And you're like, oh fuck. Like that's fucking huge. Yeah. It's like, it's I would say probably even still the world trade center is paled in comparison. Or just a gigantic high-rise building. I think probably the closest thing that you can get to it, and I'm pretty sure that the Burge is taller. But the Burge-Kalifa, just seeing pictures of it by scale,

it's like there's no way that this is real. And the Eiffel Tower, even today, seems like a feat of engineering that's incredible. But 1889. Yeah. And think of how long it took to build that. Yeah, dude. And granted, it's just a structure and a skeleton, but they still, that was the World's Fair that they introduced the first ever, like, passenger elevator. Yeah. but still it's so iconic. Huge. Like it's not only just, it's, if you really boil it down, yes, it seems like a pretty simplistic thing to build.

It's just like, it's basically a scaffolding. And it's just in a certain shape, but you look at it and you're like, someone had to make that shape and then, you know, decide where to build it and everything. And then it's now just this most, if not, it's top 10, most iconic. If you show someone in an image, they, you know, it would be one of the most known ones for somebody to name. It would probably be one of the new wonders of the world. I think it probably is on one of those lists.

Has to be. Yeah. So that's owed to the World's Fair. A direct result of just France flexing their architectural prowess on a world stage. All right. So moving on to 1893, so four years later, France is just fucking blowing the doors off with the Eiffel Tower. I'm sure it wasn't just the Eiffel Tower. That's what still stands today.

And I'm sure other buildings do. But that's what you think of. but I'm sure France blew the doors off every other way. Art, culture, all that kind of stuff. So 1893 rolls around. Chicago gets the call. And this is, it's so weird. The world's Colombian exposition.

But it wasn't Colombian in the sense of the country, Columbia. It's such fucking weird naming. It's almost the, it's to celebrate the 400th anniversary of fucking Columbus finding America. Which seems so, I get he discovered America. we can go back and forth all day on if he discovered America or if he discovered... He discovered previously already settled.

Regardless of what you want to consider settled, there was an indigenous population. He simply just... Yeah, that's a weird term to say. You didn't discover something. You found something you didn't know was there already, but other people knew it was there. Well, yeah, and I want to say

he didn't even hit the continent. Didn't he hit somewhere down in like... Yeah, it was down in... Wasn't it Caribbean? Yeah. Haiti or like Key West or not Key West, but like Bahamas or something like that. Maybe they eventually made it. Well, I'm sure what it was was they showed up and Columbus was like, this is our land.

And everybody that was there was like, actually, if you go like 80 miles that way, a lot more. A lot of it. Yeah, go that way. More land. That way. We're useless here. We're fucking useless. We got nothing that you want.

You want to travel that way. They got all kinds of crazy shit there. I can throw a football across this island. That's untold land. You can almost see it. Just send some guys. These guys are so easy to kill. Your white skin is just going to kill them basically when you show up.

It's so weird to call it. Like, is stuff about Columbus known as like Colombian history? Like if someone was, if someone told that it sounds like, I think it was just somebody making some shit up and didn't know how to say. Why didn't they just say it was the fucking World's Columbus Exhibit? I don't know. It could be. Not sure.

Definitely not sure about this. Columbia may not have been a place by then. Like as far as a country. Maybe not. So maybe that was why they could use Columbia and Columbus. That's a good point. That is like, yeah. This one was not good as far as what happened to the city of Chicago, but it almost was a beneficial

thing because they had the Chicago fire. There's a reason why it's called the second city, because after the fire happened in Chicago that burned down most of downtown and everything like that, they had to rebuild on top of all those ashes. So he didn't have a clean slate because the Chicago fire had happened to ways before that but he's the the architects kind of had a way to look at the situation as to what they wanted to build they built something called the white city and that was kind of like the the main part the main pavilion of that world's fair and all the architecture when was the chicago fire

um was it before this yeah okay okay gotcha so are they still i would imagine based upon the was the city fully reconstructed by this time were they just getting past that I think it was probably pretty close. Let me see as far as the... Because I know that the World's Fair had a huge impact, like we were saying before, on architecture, essentially, in the whole country for like 25 years. I'm just wondering if it also had kind of an influence during the rebuilding of Chicago. I hate the Internet.

That's fine. I hate the Internet so much. So on this one, I mean, just to kind of show you how the attendance had... 1871. Okay. So... So... 22 years.

Yeah. The attendance for this one, like, it keeps escalating 27,000, 300,000. And this was the introduction. It's a term you don't hear a lot. I mean, where we're at because we're not on the coast, but the midway. So a midway is essentially, if you're trying to picture in your head, go to any carnival or at a fair, like most fairs would have a midway, and it was basically all of like, if you're walking through a carnival and it's all the fucking games.

Coney Island anywhere along the If you've ever been to Disneyland, California Adventure has an entire section called I think it's like it's the midway but I'm trying to remember it's all like toy story themed or something but they have games little rides that you would have

food vendors all that kind of stuff but basically as weird as it sounds that this wasn't really a thing before then this is essentially where it was kind of created and then that idea got adopted by so many other places like you said Coney Island, Jersey Shore, like places like that that basically have like a boardwalk almost

where there's a whole bunch of like games, vendors, all that kind of stuff. And it also, I never knew why, but this makes total sense whether Chicago Bears or nicknamed the Monsters of the Midway. There you go. It all kind of comes into this whole idea that they had. This wasn't like a tangible physical idea.

It was just a complete thought process of how to set up an area where you can maximize sales for vendors Chotchkes, any sort of souvenirs, anything like that. It was along Lake Michigan, I think. Yeah, because this was actually the first place where they introduced the moving walkway, and it actually wrapped out kind of along Lake Michigan

and then came back. I don't assume it was a fast walkway. No. But it's kind of cool to think that they built, like, the first flat escalator. Yeah, like you would see it like in an airport. Yeah. That they built that all the way back in the 1800s.

Well, I mean, in the area that this covered, like, I don't know if, like, most people are aware what an acre is. I think that's kind of a term that most people don't really understand. When you're buying a house, most houses come on a property that is, like, literally, like, a third or smaller of an acre for the whole property, where your yard, your structure, and everything like that for most homes. An acre is pretty decent size, and this took place, the Chicago Expo was 700 acres. And this was, so an acre is 4,800. 40 square yards.

Okay. So a very, very... Forty, 800, so that's like 13 to 14,000 square feet. And we're talking, how big was it? 700 of them. 700 acres? 700 acres.

In Chicago. One of the things that they did, too, you know, U.S. being the U.S. being us, we're worried about us. Each state had a building. So each state had a building. state was allowed essentially like a

pavilion, like a small pavilion, that they could bring all of the stuff from that state. So I mean, I'm sure you would get some states that are pretty fucking cool with innovations and stuff like that. And then you get someone that's just like what the, this is it? The Nebraska booth has to be like three rows of corn and that's it. Like,

but this is all, well, at that time, they're like, look at all this she can do with corn now. Yeah. Yeah, we just popped it at a world's fair. If you believe it or not, people used to wipe their ass with this. And we found many more uses. Not just toilet paper or food now, folks.

We can do a bunch of stuff with it. Well, I mean, and again, this is a situation where the country that hosts is essentially trying to go all out for impressing everybody. They did. They did. The main travel area, like the thoroughfare when you were to go in and like the entryway,

was designed to be a recreation of Venice. Now, I don't know how many people listening of this have ever been to Vegas, but there's a hotel called the Venetian. And basically, the theme of the hotel like Caesars is Rome and everything. The Venetian is basically Venice. I should, Venetian Venice.

Yeah. But it's all of like the canals and the boats being pushed, you know, with the sticks and everything. Like the gondolas. The entire thoroughfare for the chart was designed to look like this with waterways, you know, the Venetian gondolas and everything. So it basically looked like a recreation of Venice. If you want to get a sense, either Google Venice or if you've been to Vegas, you know what the Venetian is like. It's pretty fucking spectacular. For three to six months.

This isn't like a hotel that's going to stay there. This is just, you know, what was done to try to impress. Yeah, it's completely temporary. Pennsylvania moved the Liberty Bell to their pavilion so people could see it. I'm sure those guys were probably pretty pissed off. Do you think that's for the crack? It was during the transport that the crack occurred when we were trying to move it back out of the pavilion to get it back to Pennsylvania and get back to Philadelphia. Patrick's Pub was the one that had to move it down there.

Yes. They, just the all-outness that they went for this fair, it was the first exposition that was completely electrified inside and outside. And Westinghouse was the company that did all the electrical work, which I think Westinghouse is still around today. I think it's... Yeah, I think they actually, they make a whole bunch of shit. They make generators. So they've lived through this, and they undercut a lot of, um, different companies, but they used it, they used DC Current to do it.

Westinghouse was the ones that kind of came up with DC Current. So they were able to beat out AC Current and use DC Current for the whole entire thing. What's if, explain to me like I'm fucking 12. I wish you wouldn't ask that question. What's the different? I know alternating current and then direct current? Yeah, I think is what it is. So is direct current, I would assume, based upon the name would be a more

reliable source because it's direct and not alternating, but I know that that's not actually the case. It's something to do with the way that the volts and the amps and stuff like that go. Did DC, so basically, are you saying the DC had an advantage over AC technologically? It, I guess, won out. So it was an advancement is what you're trying to say. It won the day.

Well, it was the first invent or the first display, I guess, of the Ferris will. Yeah, Samuel Ferris brought his Ferris wheel. That was the first one that anybody had ever seen. Do you imagine coming from France? I'm trying to put, hey, bro, we built the Eiffel Tower, and then you see this big, massive rotating wheel. I'm trying to put myself in that mindset of just thinking of, like, walking up. Because a Ferris wheel, you know, how often, if you didn't have access to the internet,

the only time you would ever see a Ferris wheel would be when, like, the fair came to your town. And then it's a scaled down, travelable, Ferris wheel, where you're maybe going up, what, 50 feet in the air? This thing is not this, like, massive. Yes. And imagine being the first time you're, walking, you're like, what the fuck is this thing? Like, yeah, you just get in these little baskets and we just take you all the way of the top and we take you around. Be like, fuck no. I'm gonna fall

out. What's gonna happen? The basket's just gonna keep going out and out now. I'm gonna be upside. I'm gonna be turned upside down. No, due to, due to bearings, you're like, the fuck is a bearing. Like, no, it keeps you level. How does it keep me level? Just trust this. Just get on. Just watch it for 10 minutes. Do you see these people already writing it? Uh-huh. Yeah, I wonder how many times, it would have to be daily because you're getting new people in all the time. The first batch of people getting into the fair going up to that Ferris will and just staring at it and the guy being like, do you want to see someone write it? One of our people right in to know that you can get on it. And fucking Jerry, Jerry, wake fuck up. Get on the Ferrisville. He's like,

oh, hey, he just sits in there and goes all the way around. Are you guys satisfied? Jerry's fine. The other thing that just came to me is how many people do you think found out that day that they had a fear of heights when they went on the ferris for the first time. Every single fucking one of them. Yeah, dude, there's no way that you would have been able to quantify in your mind how high up in the air you were until you were on a Ferris wheel. Unless you were used to working in a high, like,

what, you would be considered a high rise of that time, or you were fuck, I don't even know. That could have been more than like 10 stories, though. I know. I'm just trying to think what would be a situation when someone would be in a manmade object that there's a big difference between being 150 feet in the air on a hill. Mm-hmm. Because it's solid completely underneath you. and being on something that is made of

fucking scaffolding, like a metal structure that was made by people, and you're just peering over the edge of you're like, I can't explain how this works and yet I'm fucking sitting in this bucket riding on it. Like, I wouldn't, you get to the top. This was probably the advent of like motion sickness, man. Can you imagine how many people figured out

that they got even any motion going in a circle? She hadn't been on a boat or anything like that beforehand? Yeah, dude, that's, I just thought. It was the introduction of the fucking puke, bucket. That fear just had to have come into existence. We had to have learned about the fear of heights from Samuel Ferris's Ferris. I'm guessing it probably had a pretty... Another thing that they hit on that I, just kind of in passing was really interesting, was this was the first parliament of the world's religions. So this was the first time that they ever had a gathering of all the world religions in one place. Like the major ones, right?

There was a lot. It wasn't just like Hinduism, Buddhism, all that. kind of stuff, all the stuff from the east coming and meeting there. I think there... So had he been alive earlier, would our boy, Anton LeVay? I wish you, I hope he would have got that. Okay, got the nod. Yeah, he would have been in it. Got the signal that came out of the bullpen.

But it was basically like Protestant Christians trying to flex that their religion created all of the major innovations and like raised humanity up. You're describing a religious role of a rumble right now. That's basically what it was. God, that would be nice. So this dude, he was a Presbyterian leader of the church, something like that, gets up, says that all of man's advancement as far as like through thought and everything was fostered by the Christian religion. And all of this. So he's basically saying not just in this religious pavilion, everything that you walk out and see, all of it.

Dude, us. It's just a biggest slap in the face to anybody that's not a Christian. There was a Hindu guy that got up and just completely own the day. He gets up and he goes, you know, one tough thing that I have with the Christian religion is you guys focus on making sure that people are good after they die. Why is Christianity not focused on the quality of life while they're alive? Well, the thought process I think is it's, you know, if you're good while you're alive, you get to, reap the benefits when you when you die. Yeah, but as far as like world

hunger, all those different things. Yeah, you're not just so focused on yourself on like what you're doing inside your little insular bubble. The other thing too that I'm guessing that, you know, he could have stood up and said it as like, you know, why don't you guys maybe focus on something where someone just can't pop in right when they're about to die and be like, oh yeah, I'm really sorry

about all the shit I did. I can go heaven now. We'll do an episode on Mother Teresa. She's got a body count that's incredible. So, in addition to that, and we're going to see this kind of throughout the course of these World's Fair, what new foods were introduced? A brownie, which seems odd that it took them that long, because I'm sure that France had something like a brownie.

I don't remember the first time I had a brownie as a child, but I have given my child a brownie, and I assume that the reaction is probably similar to mine when I was a child. Imagine getting that as an adult. Yeah. Like never, and I mean, you probably had chocolate before, but it was probably kind of scarce, depending on where you lived and everything.

But imagine them being like handing you just to smush down. You're like this, your cake got smushed. It looks like it's burnt. Yeah, why is this cake all smushed and burnt through? It's not fluffy. They're like, just fucking try it. Just shut your mouth. Put this in it.

Chew it up and fucking enjoy the ride. Childlike wonder in an adult age. That's what it is. There's no way that your taste buds have even really hit anything like that. A little less pleasurable. Next one in line, cream of wheat. That seems like something that should have been invented by Caveman, right? Yeah.

Did you eat cream and wheat as a kid? Yeah, loved it. Brown sugar in there, a little butter. Did you ever a Malto Meal? Because they had chocolate maltomeil. I don't think, I never had the chocolate. I know that. Okay, I used to have like the chocolate maltoneal and also cream of wheat.

Isn't that just like if you really think about it and you put a bowl of cream of wheat in front of you right now and you'd never had any experience with it? You'd look at him and be like, is this? How fuck is this? Is this mashed potatoes? Like, it, it doesn't, what is it supposed to go with this? No, it's just a, it's cream of wheat. I'll tell you what, we'll throw three blueberries on there. How about that?

It's just, it's wheat cream? Yep. Just fucking shut your mouth and enjoy it. It's healthy for you. I, I don't know if this is a popular opinion, but my ideal consistency of cream of wheat is almost like a paste. Oh, yeah. I used to...

You don't want to cut it too much with milk or anything because then it just turns into a soup. And then you're chasing the whole time. I used to... I don't think I could ever eat cream of weed unless I had toast. And then I would take it and I would just dunk the toast in it. And that's where you want that really thick. So you're getting a big old globs stuck to that toast.

Yeah. Pivoting to something else that is still in existence right now. Good old PBR. Survive the test of time. PBR is still around. kicking and still just out there on the market. It's still got to be one of the best selling domestic beers, right? They have that, what's that new, like, gimmick pack that they have?

It's like the 90 pack. It's insanely long. They have a 90 pack of PBR? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's just, like, selling somebody a domestic violence case. Oh, yeah. So you know how, like, a 24 pack of, like, regular, like, Pepsi or coat comes in now.

It's the skinny pack, the fridge pack. It's that, except just imagine it's as long as the distance between the, not even shit, you mean the filing cabinet between behind you. is where it goes to. They sell them in some places. That's awesome. I know. How do you get at home?

You need a truck. You do it like you do if you're driving a car and you're at Home Depot and you get a piece of plywood or something too long. You can roll down both through windows. And then roll the windows back up to secure it or just do the thing where you're holding it above on the laying the seats down. It's sticking out the side. If you drive by a policeman with that thing on the top on your roof and he doesn't pull you over, that's a mistake by the police. I don't know. are the chances you're just not waiting home to start drinking it.

That may be a time for them to follow you to where you're going and just maybe hang out for a little bit. A 90 pack on the roof is probable cause. Yes. That's a definition of probable cause. There could be some underage drinking or somebody leaving that party a little bit under the influence. Some kid tries to pay you for beer outside the gas station.

You bring about a nine foot long thing. Like here, have a good night, man. Crack yourself off three of these. Open and grab three. Get out of here. Well, and that's the thing is a 90 pack is probably still for PBR, it's probably still only 40 bucks. Oh, more than that.

Maybe 50 bucks, 60 bucks? It's PBR. It's not a top-notch. It's expensive beer. I would say it's a 60 to 70-pack, $1.50 beer. Yeah, it's not bad. New Cracker Jack. Yeah, Cracker Jack. So what was old Cracker Jack?

I don't know. I'm sure it was probably just popcorn and peanuts. They probably didn't put the coating on it yet. Okay, so Cracker Jack, essentially, I haven't had Cracker Jack a long time. Is it just peanuts and caramel corn? I think it's peanuts. There's little pretzels maybe, caramel, corn and I think that's it.

It was never a crackerjack person. No. No, caramel corn you have to be in the right setting for Christmas and it's got to come in a three pack. You got to be able to balance that caramel with the butter and the cheddar. And the butter, yep. Can't just, yeah, who just eats

fucking a bag of box of caramel corn? Come on. Yeah. Psychos. So the next, was it the next one was in New York? Um, I don't know because the next, the New York World's Fair that we're going to talk about. They've had a lot of them. Mm-hmm. But this one was, I believe,

the first one in New York. It was held in 1939. So imagine we're coming off of the heels of the Great Depression, probably still semi in it as they're building this whole entire structure and this whole entire thing. They built it in Corona Park, which I think still exists today, but it's been sucked in by buildings and other things. Do you think that, okay, so this New York won Corona Park. Oh, that was in Flushing Meadows in Queens. Yeah. Corona Park was. Okay. You know how of these countries were coming over and building their own pavilions and everything. Do you think they were sending over, I'm asking in reference to the Great Depression and people getting back to work, do you think that they would hire people there in advance and

just give them the blueprints and be like, this is what it needs to look like? Or do you think they're also sending people over to do the construction or maybe just people over to like supervise? I think they had to have probably brought people over because you want to try to keep that economic, like in times of the Great Depression, I think you wanted to keep the money with your own people so then they could send it back. Yeah, I would imagine, and, you know, regardless of those other countries are building their own pavilions, there's still a lot of infrastructure and everything that needs to be done. So this did help people, you know, with jobs and everything.

Yeah, it was a boon for sure, or a boom. And it would make sense, too, because you have these buildings that are going to be constructed out of essentially materials that are more available in these other countries. Like, if you're really thinking about it, like, think of, like, Japanese architecture. I'm trying to kind of, I don't even know how to describe it. It's more of just like old like terrorist system, like, I don't know how to describe it. Like if you know like a Japanese like, like Zen Garden and the building that's in it, it's very curved roofs, usually very straight line. A wood, exposed wood sticking out and everything that you can see. And I would imagine that you would probably only trust people that had been building those or were familiar with the architecture.

Yeah, with the architecture to try to build those for you. but 33 countries participated. I mean, 1939, and you have 33 countries that are coming in here. And the other thing, too, this is 39 to 40. They actually, yeah, they split it up into two segments, where I think it was three months, then they had an off-season, and then a second three months. This brought in 44 million people.

After the Great Depression, we have a war that's spurning, and sparking right now with Germany fighting, I think they were into England a little bit at this point, maybe a little into France? Are you talking about for World War I or two? Two. So in two, they never set foot on, in

Britain. Oh, they never got that for? No, they never, never, no any ever, I mean, you had pilots that landed after getting shot down, but no armed force ever actually took like step foot in Britain on the island. But this is essentially the arms build up to that by Germany. You

have the Spanish Civil War going on or the tail end of it. I think that was 36 to 39. And I think Germany did participate in this one, didn't they? I don't know. There was a World's Fair prior to World War II in which Germany participated, and I'm trying to think, so the kind of the thing that stands out about their exhibit is like you would have all these countries about like their culture and things like that. And then Germany's exhibits were just based like, look at these.

fucking cannons. Look at these fucking guns that we can, and it was all about like fucking arms and everything. How many flaming bags of dog poo you think I left in front of their booth after World War 1? Well, you know, technically,

what was it, the Weimar Republic is what it kind of was, and Germany was part of it, or the Ottoman Empire was part, and then Germany came of that, so I don't know if it was strictly, I'm sure it wasn't exactly popular, especially considering that if you're going in there, regardless of the time frame, you're like, are you guys supposed to have fucking guns.

Yeah. Should you be bringing these cannons over? Why do you have these? I think that might have been a World's Fair prior to World War I. Because if they brought those prior to World War II, that was at the time when they were under the dearmament for the Geneva Convention, I think. So they shouldn't have even had that shit. So I'm wondering if they were taking place or taking part. Even if they weren't there, they fit into this World's Fair in a very tragic way.

So during this World's Fair, there was actually multiple bombings that happened in, I think it was prior to, maybe a little bit, and then during the World's Fair, there was actually a bomb that was left in the fan room of Great Britain's building, and it was found by a security guard. They brought it outside.

It was just a bag that was ticking, and the security guard had actually seen the bag in the fan room the day prior, and then when he came back on July 4th, which is very poetic that it was July 4th. He comes back in, sees the bag, here's the ticking, but he thinks there's no way this could be a bomb because it had been over 24 hours

and clocks back then were just a round circle. If you had a time detonator, it would have hit at that point. So they bring it out. There were detectives that came from New York City and they cut a hole in the bottom of the bag. They looked inside. It was definitely a bomb. And it ended up blowing up.

There was shrapnel inside. that just basically instantly killed the first two detectives there and wounded a bunch of different people. So had that not gone off where it did because they brought it outside the pavilion, it would have smoked a bunch of people inside that building. That's so crazy to think of this time when you're thinking of like a bomb.

I just imagine fucking Looney Tunes, the fucking dynamite wrapped up with a fucking alarm clock stepped to it. Well, and this was kind of a question. It's actually a still open case today and there's still like a 25,000. dollar reward for any information leading to them figuring out the case but the conspiracies behind it are the weeks that followed there was a security guard that was in there and he actually thought

that he had found a second bomb but it was a Nazi flag that had been left crumpled up inside the building. So there were questions Great Britain and Germany were in conflict at this point. Yeah. So was this a shot at them? Or could this have been since it was found in Britain's building and everybody that worked that building were all

British citizens? Is there a chance that this was Churchill's kind of way of trying to get America into the war to try to protect them? So to this day we don't know. And it's a conspiracy that I had just found out about this doing this research, which is wildly interesting.

I'm going to have to look more into. But just kind of an interesting way that the first fair that happened in New York happened in such just a time frame of the world where it was another kind of step forward into knowing that we were going to have to intervene in this war. Yeah. Kind of jumping back real quick because I just actually saw an image of it.

I don't think we did this whole Ferris will thing, justice, for when it was actually created. It's not a Ferris will. like we know it. The thing, so instead of like a cart, like circular cart that you're normally, or just like a little cage that you would write in, these things. They looked like, um, you know, um, like in San Francisco, the street cars that have all the windows and everything, not the ones you could just like jump on or

open. It looks like they took a bunch of those and it was holding them sideways. They said this thing, just to kind of give some scope to it. It was a 260 foot wheel. It held 36 of these cars. It could hold over 2,000 people at one time and operate. That's too many people. That's fucking crazy.

It's a lot of weight. How do you fucking test that? How do you be one of those 2,000 fucking, like, at what point are you have 2,000 people that you're testing that before you bring it up and set up? They're like, should we keep adding people? Yeah, let's keep adding people. And then as soon as you hear the steel, like, 2,000 people it is, or just a hair over 2,000.

I mean, at that point, too, it's like, is it kind of like what you're, talking about with the thing that happened in New York and the kind of conspiracy behind it. Yeah, is it someone, because again, you have all these people from different countries, whether they're in conflict or not in conflict, those individuals, you still have representatives. Kind of like how, wasn't the Olympics in Berlin sometime leading up to World War II? And that's where essentially America dominated because we had a bunch of black guys. And that's why fucking Hitler was pissed off about it. We figured out that Jesse Owens can run really, really fast.

But so up until it doesn't really, it wouldn't really be surprising if Germany was taking place as part of this because they were even part of the Olympics leading up to their, the reign of the Nazi party. But yeah, it does kind of raise the interesting fact like was it planted there to try to kind of create sympathy for Britain to kind of blame it on Germany? Or was it there just to, or was there was there a target in mind? was there supposed to be somebody there that they were trying to take out? Or was it just supposed to be a terror attack? Or was it even somebody that wanted to see these two countries

in an escalated conflict? There's so many different ways that this could happen. It's not like bomb making was like it is today, which, you know, I don't know to make a fucking bomb, but I'm pretty sure if I really looked online about it, I'd probably get fucking found out before I did.

But what I'm saying is you could find out through various channels a common person knows how to make a bomb. So why we have fucking pipe bombs. that go off and get found. But for someone to have the knowledge to make an explosive device like this, that definitely says to me

that that person is militarily trained. Could have been. Or in the military or some type of military operation. Just the timing of it and what resources were available. Joe Schmo didn't know how to fucking look up and how to build a bomb. Well, I didn't know this at this point until I started looking into this.

But prior to World War II, there was a pretty decently set up German secret organization that was over here that had spies that were working within our country's borders. Basically just like a precursor to Soviet agents over here

during the Cold War. Yep. Everything. They had sleeper cell type basically is what they would kind of probably be known as. So there were beyond just the odd Nazi sympathizers that were in America. There were Germans on the ground that could have perpetrated this.

But thinking about it the same time too if all of the people that worked inside the British Expo building that they had oral English

there's a chance that that could have been brought over and that could have been something to try to garner sympathy. Yeah. Because when the police department was looking into it they had to go through Great Britain to figure out who they, like they had to ask for permission to interview people and there were certain

people that worked in the building that they said that they couldn't interview. Yeah. So that kind of begs the question, why can't you interview these people? What are they over here for? I mean, if you really think about it, you're trying to avoid another World War when you just got out of one and you know you're going to bear the brunt of it again. You probably would get kind of desperate to try to garner some sympathy there.

This was actually also the first introduction for the world science convention that was held at the fair. Yeah, the science fiction convention. Oh, the science. Oh, okay. So this was a science fiction convention that was held. So kind of like the first Comic-Con, maybe. I kind of almost see it more so, if you're going to say science fiction,

almost more of like the world of tomorrow. And like watching an early version of the Jetsons. Like as a kid, you would see, you know, when you always see like mock-ups of like what they imagine society, when you ask someone in like the 40s or the early 1900s, what society was going to be like, they'll be flying cars and a robot butler in every house. And you're like, yeah, that seems totally,

feasible. I mean, we just invented the steam engine. How are we not going to have fucking robot butlers in the house in the next hundred years or whatever? But I think that's where you would see like the mock-ups and models of like the future cities with like public transportation system and monorails and everything. And that stuff is going to also find its way in here. Yeah, they, there's certain things that were built at World's Fairs that are still used today that we just kind of take for granted. And this will be kind of where we, get out of the explanations of kind of the bigger world fairs

and there's so many of them just the sheer amount of these things that happened and all these innovations so in order to just kind of save time and go over some of the fun stuff we're going to go over some of just the good the bad things that happened and then two ironic things that I don't know

if you saw but were just very funny to me did you before we get into the good because I don't know if I saw it written up there so you know they had one in Tennessee have you ever seen the Parthenon in Tennessee? Did you see that when you were looking stuff out? No. Okay.

There is a full to scale recreation of the Parthenon in Tennessee. Where? Like Nashville? I'm not sure if it's where the, it's wherever the World's Fair took place because it was built for the World's Fair. It is a two-scale recreation of the Parthenon, and it is the only reason I actually know about it,

aside from hearing about it here, is because there's, Have you ever heard of the movie Percy Jackson? It was like a young adult novel and everything. But basically, it's the premises that you have, the Greek gods are still real, the Olympian gods, and they basically, it's a Hercules type.

They have demigods and the kids and everything. They have to travel to this place in Tennessee, and it says the Parthenon. There's a fucking Parthenon to scale. It looks like someone just plucked something out of Rome and just popped it down in the middle of fucking Tennessee. That's crazy. Yeah.

It's got like a recreation of the actual statue of Athena within the, it's plaster, of course, it's not marble. But I think the outside is actually created however they created it in, you know, in Rome or Athens or wherever it is. Tennessee's the bottom half of the guesses that I would say if there was a porthin on built in the United States. Yeah, no kidding, right? It only beats out like Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi,

pretty much anywhere in the south. That's a, that's nuts. I didn't know that. Tennessee, the Expo and Tennessee actually plays kind of a, fun role in this one because it was the oh, where was it?

That's just sitting in the middle of Tennessee. Oh, dude, that's awesome. That's crazy. Yeah. They were, I want to say, and correct me if I'm wrong, look up the date when that one was in Tennessee. Let's see.

But it was, I didn't know any. this existed back in these days because it was so long ago. And this is where we're going to get into like the technology that was shown at such an early time. 82. 82. So it's not exactly old. Well, old for what we're going to talk about because 82, where was it? Oh.

Are you looking at like what was? Yeah. So the first touchscreen was introduced in 1982. in Tennessee at the World's Fair. A touchscreen. Yeah. In the 80s. That's what's fucking crazy.

That blows my mind. Yeah. And we're starting late. Like the stuff we're going to go back to and talk about like basically we're just going to kind of give you the year of a World's Fair and almost like something that really stands out that was actually, you know, presented there or anything. There was, before we get into that. So I think the reason kind of touching on something we talked about earlier, the reason

that a lot of like people in our country don't even understand that there's still as a world's fair going on is i want to say it was back in it was obviously after the one in tennessee so after 82 i want to say right after that and it coincided with the olympics in los angeles so i'm not sure what olympics that was that might have been late 80s early 90s i remember because the coliseum was used for all the track events and everything where USC played right yeah um they had one in new orleans and that hosted a World's Fair, and I think that one was just done so horribly, and what it ended up happening is that they, the way it was planned, they didn't have enough funding, they got everything built, they had people working there, and then all of a sudden, employee check started

to bounce, and they couldn't pay people that were working there to keep it going. The government had to actually step in and subsidize everything and pay everybody and pay for the rest of it, and then at that point, there was this hard ass that had been kind of lobbying against the participation in the World's Fair because they felt it wasn't a good use of the United States funds. They made it a law that any

participation in the World's Fair would be done without government funding or anything like that. So, that being said, because then private people would have to put on our exhibitions and build the pavilion, the United States just kind of stopped showing up to World's Fairs. And we haven't been part of it

next. I think when Colin Powell was Secretary of State, he sent in a official letter. There was a World's Fair that was supposed to take place about four years before he sends this letter. Two years prior to that, we had put in, be like, yeah, we'll participate. They gave us this big spot

right in the middle. I'm trying to remember what country. This might have been the Canadian one. I'm trying to remember where it was. It wasn't in our country, obviously, or else we would have built something. But the part had been partitioned out for the United States, and we just never built anything. And so they had to end up turning that basically

into this big courtyard right in the middle of all these. It made it look like it was natural, but when it kind of zooms out, you're like, oh, yeah, I could see where a building was supposed to be there. Somebody backed out. Yeah, someone backed out. And then after that, like four years later, Colin Powell, who was the secretary of state at the time, sent a letter to the whatever, the IE, whatever we had said was the acronym for it, officially giving our withdrawal from any, you know, future participation in the World's Fair.

So we haven't. Yeah. So we haven't had a presence there. And I think that's why there's a big assumption that it, you know, hasn't taken place, probably since the last one we were a part of. Just like we dipped out of it so it just didn't exist anymore. It's like actually this shit was going on before we were even a country. Oh yeah.

Well, maybe not before we were a country. Before we had our shit sorted out. Yeah, when we were still in our pants as a country, other countries were still fucking doing this thing. So they're going to keep doing it. Well, I think the next one we talked about is 2025 and it's in Osaka. So that should be a pretty cool, cool one to see and maybe kind of keep track of

but they really, I think it was more after World War II. They were obviously still in it for innovation, but these later ones that have come in like the 90s in 2000s have shifted and focused more onto like world problems. Like problems of humanity. Yep. So climate change, stuff like that.

So it's more of like a being conscious of the environment around you so we can continue to have these world fairs, these big exhibitions. Let's make sure that we have a place to do it. Let's use these to do some good. Basically, we can still flex and everything with our new technology,

but let's make sure it's technology that's applicable toward the betterment of mankind. And so you can do it the fucking best. A lot of this, too. Some of the stuff we're going to go over, really better mankind even before that. All right, so what do we got? Let's just go back and forth on the good,

and then we can kind of talk about it as we go through. So we established in 1889, the Eiffel Tower was built for the Expo. 1851, which is, seems like... Oh, we're going to have to jump. Okay, hold on. I'm trying to figure out our dates here. 1889 are just the Eiffel Tower because it's like the biggest thing that's ever been built for it.

Oh, gotcha, the most well-known, gotcha, okay. So 1851, I had a hard time figuring this out in my mind how it all worked. 1851, we get the first image telegraph that was invented. So the first fax machine was invented in 1850. 1551. Could you explain how a fax machine works even now? I mean, I think I could probably give you like a rough, you know, it transmits the data through the line and basically then just recreates the image on the other side. It's a printer.

That's all it is. It's a printer that you can send things back and forth to. Yes, yeah. Which... It's a phone printer. That's what a fax machine is. It runs through a phone line, but it's a printer. It allows you to send documents and stuff.

just a very what we think of now as an archaic technology 1851 though what fucking images are you sending in 1851 I drew you a pornographic picture

yeah I'm gonna need you to send that across the country to me that we've talked about a million times technology is either for violence or for sex yeah that's what every new piece of technology gets turned into so I'm sure I also send a threatening letter can you do that also

yeah do that yep threatening letter draw me some sweet boobs let's make this happen All right, what we got is So 1876, Telephone Yeah, that's a major invention

That seems like I don't think that one even I mean like What you had the You know, what was it called With Morse code What was that called? Oh my God

Telegraph? Yeah, telegraph So you had the telegraph Prior to that But can you imagine Like you're at the World's Fair and okay, I'll even kind of compare it to this. When we were down in Houston, we went to this, like, museum area,

and they basically had little exhibits that you could, like, interact with and play with. One of them was essentially an early communication device, and it was talking through a pipe. And you could talk and you could hear it out the other side. Even that is just kind of fun now, because it's gimmicky, and it's like, oh, you know, this is how people used to communicate if they were in separate, like, rooms. I don't know if that was the case, but. You then think you go to this World's Fair and you're like, what's this thing?

They're like, it's a telephone. You know, telegraph? Like, it sends the letters and they're like, no. Like, if you pick up this and that person across the room picks it up, you can hear each other. Well, yeah, we're in the same room. I can hear them. No, no, no. Like, you won't be able to hear each other talking.

You'll hear each other through this device. You can go outside the house. Yes. And it sends your voice through electrical signals. And then at the other end, your voice is heard. I don't know how, like, if you ask me how to explain how that even was possible, like, how the voice could come the other, was it the same voice? Like, did you sound like... I can't even explain it now. No. And that's like, well, it's easier to explain now because it's just like it's data going through the air. It's not going through an electrical line. It's going over the air. But still, how does your fucking voice maintain what your voice sounds like? Isn't that? I, am I two stoneed under... Is that why I can't understand this is because I'm stoned?

No, because I can't There's just certain things in life That I'll never be able to explain And this Whenever we release that one-on-one A step we don't understand I don't understand how fonds work I don't understand how data floats or the air

You could explain that to me In the simplest terms possible I'm still like I think we sort of confused By how records work Yeah That it's the microscopic grooves in it And the way that it scratches the needle Changes the pitch and puts the like

This is fucking light years ahead of that I can't explain any of it So what's this in 78? I know what it is, but like, explain it. So 1878 was the one in Philadelphia, and France is a part of their exhibit actually sent over the hand of the Statue of Liberty as it was still in construction.

The torch hand or the holding the book hand? I think it was the holding the book hand. I don't think it was a torch hand. It could have been, probably, maybe just depending on what they had done first. Was it the actual one that was? then used to... Yep. The actual one that was used to construct... Hey, we're sending this in advance.

Hey, I know this hand doesn't look impressive right now, but it's just the hand. Keep in mind. But even that, how big was that fucking thing? The scale of just the hand would have been massive. Because the Statue of Liberty, you can see from so far away.

I've been up inside of it. I don't really remember how big it was because I was just younger. That's, like, imagine that flex is being like, so what is this? It's a hand. What do you mean?

It's a hand. Oh, is it a hand for the statue we are building for you? And not only that, it's not green at that point. Yeah. It's the statular is bronze. I think it was bronze. Because isn't that what's what happens to bronze when it oxidizes? It turns green like that, yeah.

So you're seeing a giant bronze hand, and that's just like the teaser. We're talking about just the hand, not as tall as it is. And I think it's probably pretty to scale. So it's just massive. So I'm sure America got it over here Like that's what you guys are building us That's what you're doing This is sweet

Yeah That had to have played into them going into World War II His friends like hey man You remember that big statue We built you back in the 1800s Yeah you want to come over And maybe help us out Yeah we're calling in the favor

All right so 1893 Again the Ferris will That's still fucking crazy You got like fucking train cars On this thing I'm gonna let you do this thing on I'm glad you want Yeah, I know what you do this one because I know you were really excited about this one.

Oh, this was also in 1893. Yep, same time. Big fucking year. Chicago had it going on. They did. They showed up and showed out. And this one is just a personal fit. Out of everything, they did, Space Needle, Eiffel Tower, this is my number one.

So in 1893, they created a humanoid robot named Electro. And it was built by the Westinghouse Electric Corporation. they built it over 37 and 38. They're trying to figure out what year it was? Yeah. Okay. So maybe I was wrong on my day here. This happens in the course of doing all this research.

It looks like it must have been in 39. Yeah, because it was the New York's World Fair. So 1939, not 1893. This wasn't in Chicago. This was in New York. Okay, Electro, robot built by Westinghouse. Oh, between 37 and 38. So this robot was seven feet tall.

It weighed 269 pounds. It had a decently human appearance, but he could be walked by voice command. Yeah, he was able to speak 700 words. I kind of look at it looking, he had a robot dog, Sparco. The way I would kind of describe it. And's best friend, robot's best friend. Yeah, he is the color of C3PO, kind of that dull gold. And he kind of looks like almost what you would envision if you were in the,

fucking early 1900s of robot of the future. Humanoid with a face, but just like smooth everywhere, almost kind of like, like very science fictiony. Very much so, yeah. And that could have played in. Maybe that's why they introduced him in New York

because it was the first science fiction fair. That probably blew those science fiction nuts, dicks off, seeing a real robot. He was beyond the voice command, beyond the words that it was just a record player inside of it. the coolest part about this thing, and this is where I know that it was just 100% humans

that built it. They built a robot that could speak and walk, but they also built a robot that could smoke cigarettes. How cool is that? You could teach a robot to smoke cigarettes. What do you think that conversation is like, we got to make this thing seem as human as possible? What do humans do in there?

They're sitting there like, well, they talk. Yes, yes, they talk. I mean, they walk. Yeah, they walk. Like, what else do they do? And they look around the room, and everyone in this board room, is fucking sucking down these cigarettes

in a late night brainstorming session fucking just ashtray's full, they're like I mean, what do we do? Like, make it fucking smoke. Someone's like, say that again. It needs to fucking smoke. We know now the dangers of cigarettes, but back in these times

in the 1930s and 40s, we still thought that this was like a healthy thing that was okay. And for as bad as we know... How could something that makes you feel so good bad for you, right? And not only that, but as bad as smoking cigarettes is, you got to admit, it's kind of badass to see somebody smoking a cigarette. Smoking a cig is kind of a bad, badass deal. Like, bikers do it, tough guys do it, cowboys do it. Not now. When you know the

health stuff, because that's what's forefront of your mind, but going back to like, we're talking like Danny Zucco, James did that kind of the bad boy with it rolled up. Yeah, that's, you're a rebel without a cause, baby. Bad ass. And basically all it was was just a bellow system in the head. I thought for a minute, I just thought it'd be hilarious if there was just a dude inside the fucking electrical robot and when it raised the cigarette up to its mouth. He just was fucking holding the tube and he would be sick, just blow it back out the mouth so as smoking. Were these, because he's a fucking seven foot tall robot, were these cigarettes larger or were they just regular cigarettes in his large robot hands, tiny little cigarettes? They probably made a bigger pack for him. Maybe that was where they came up with like Virginia Slim. was the, or Caprize, the really long sigs. Yeah, the ones they used to stick in the, what, smoking sticks that, like, fancy women used to use. But again, you're even, you know, 1938, you're walking into this place, and this is a, something that moves like a human. You've never seen something like this before.

We're so jaded, I think, and that's why I think when people hear this kind of stuff, they're just like, so. Yeah, it was a robot. We have fucking robots. Have you seen the new Boston Dynamics thing where it's doing the Ninja Warrior course and everything? People look at them and they're like, oh, sky net's happening and everything. That's just like, we see that. We're just like, that's just obviously the next level of advancement. People understand that it can, you know, engineers and everything that can build those things.

It's almost like they're so far beyond the scope of like a normal person's thought process that they just look at that. And they're like, of course, there's people smart enough to do that. I'm not even going to give it to pay it two cents. You've seen previously what they've done. Yeah, you've seen the robot dogs, and we've seen... It's also, too, if you're thinking about it, science fiction movies, you know, they're not a thing. So the first time you're seeing this, it's not like you have it in your head to where, you're like, I see that shit on TV all the time on Flash Gordon or anything like that. This is the first time you're seeing something in real life where you're just like, oh, this is like right in front of me, this is real.

This isn't a tiny little prop that someone is moving with sticks and trying to make look like it's real. This is literally this thing talking in front of me. It moves. it fucking smokes a goddamn cigarette. It does all the things that you need a person to do. How long before these replace us? This guy can already smoke cigarettes?

We're going to be out of a job in three years. God damn, you Electro, and your stupid dog. Electro was the original that they took our jobs guy. Yeah, exactly. They're going to be outsourced to all these Indonesian robots. They're going to take our jobs. Oh.

1904 fucking first ice cream cone that's a big one I'm sure it was sugar definitely couldn't have been a waffle cone Waffle cones had to have come along So it was a wafer They just had big wafers

Yeah And they ran out of the traditional cups That they were trying to use And they still had a ton of ice cream and everything So they took the wafers And I think they just got them Either steamed them or got them wet and pliable Or maybe they just did it as soon

Because you know you're baking them It's basically just a small waffle, tiny waffle, or it's a big iron, but it's like smaller cells, like instead of a waffle being like deep, big ones. It's going to make it thinner, more pliable until it hardens, and then when it hardens, it's so crispy that it doesn't. It's more so a wafer is more akin to what a waffle cone looks like now than just a standard ice cream cone where it's like solid. It's got a little texture to it. The sugar cone. Yeah, the sugar cone that you can order, like the upgraded cone, the baller cone that you can get. So basically, they just form those into a cone

and start packing ice cream in them, and boom, you got the invention of the ice cream cone. That was in St. Louis, right? Yep. Was the, this probably irrelevant, was the arch done before or after

a World's Fair? Was that done as part of one? I would say that it probably had to have done after. Okay. Just because it seems

like that. Maybe a little inspiration? Yeah, and it became the gateway to the West. So it's tough to beat the ice cream

cone. That seems like sort of a one-one that you're going to try to draft for just these inventions. 1939 was broadcast television.

Depending on who you are, that might have been the ice cream cone, but when it first came out. Yeah, but we're talking from 1904 to 1930. That's true. Or, yeah. 35 years. Yeah, that's a... The ice cream cone has had 35 strong fucking years.

It's already caught on. Yeah, before... It's in every home. Well, and this isn't even when broadcast television, this is just when people are shown the possibility of broadcast television. television. This is, it's like the thing we always compare like inventions.

Military has it 15 years before the public has it or something like that. Yeah. This is something that basically they're just able to show to the public and be like, hey, motherfuckers, get ready. This is going to be in all your houses. This is geared specifically towards you. That's a good

invention. I think the TV was probably way before that, but just being able to beam out a signal for the news or anything. I would imagine it's probably not as far back as you would think for that. Just because you, you know, the natural progression was you went from like projectors that could be put into movie theaters and they were so big. Rich people probably had projectors in their homes that they could use and everything.

But then you, after that, the natural progression was, oh, we're going to make these smaller and more available. Then you get black and white TVs. Then you start worrying about, well, what are we going to fucking supply with these TVs? We've got to figure out how to broadcast stuff to this. You get broadcast television. I mean, there's probably, but I'm guessing that between the time the broadcast television, TV probably was only around for a few years before they're like, well, we got to fucking make stuff for people to sit around and look at. We have to have a reason to sell this to people.

62. I didn't even know Seattle had a World's Fair. When you told me that and what the space needle was crafted for the World's Fair. And the monorail. So the public transit system. Yes, and that is a huge thing about Seattle. Mm-hmm. is, okay, again,

Eiffel Tower in Paris, you show someone the space needle in every sports team in Seattle. That background with the city skyline has the space needle. Like... It's one of the most iconic skylines in the country, for sure.

It's one of the most iconic structures in the country. Just the shape, you see the silhouette and you're just, you know, you can see the silhouette of probably the Empire State building, you can see the three tiers at the top, maybe the Chrysler building,

but I mean, there aren't a lot of places where you can simply just see the silhouette and be like space needle. It closest you're going to get to the stratosphere in Vegas. Yeah. And that's for people that probably think that the space needle was built after in the stratosphere some shit. Very, when you look at the curves in just the sexiness of the space needle, it's definitely built for like a future time. Yes. And it fits the Pacific Northwest in Seattle.

So well. If you look at the Jetsons, they lived in those fucking houses. They had the tiny end. They were floating and they had the skinny little tear coming up and then the big round circle out of it. It looked like a fucking spaceship. Yeah, dude. And that's, I wonder if that's why Seattle has kind of turned out the way that it is.

Because it almost feels like a different society. And not to say that that's a bad thing. No, it's, I almost feel like it didn't stop progressing. And I mean that in the sense of like, a technological sense. Like the World's Fair came, the monorail was created for the World's Fair. Isn't that, like, even thinking about that,

like a public transportation system that is so now prevalent in so many places. Every big city has to have it. Yes, an elevated train. And I know, you know, in Chicago, you have like the L, what do they call that? Is it the L? Because it's elevated? Like the L train?

No, the L's just a route. So there's like red lines. I thought it was EL elevated train. I thought that's why they called the L train. I don't know Okay But even like the The BART in California

The BART system The barrier rapid transit It's an elevated train And the one in Chicago is still train systems And they still go underground And all that kind of stuff So it's sort of built Retroactively into the city

But when you run into the BART Or anything like that You have enough open space That you can't dig underground So you need to do something Or you're at sea level It's elevated Yeah

Close to sea level And you don't have to be You're too close to do that. It was just a marvel to think of a monorail too. So we're just talking about one rail. This isn't a train that's up there. This is a completely different system. You want to look at something that look at Disneyland.

The Disneyland monorail. I mean, that was, here's the thing that kind of also is crazy. This was simply built here for an expo that took place for three to six months. Got to get people in, got to get people out. You got to get people in and out, but like, there's a trend here. I can see why these kept, you know, growing in popularity because there's so many things coming out of these that become mainstream products, innovations, inventions, things like that, that are adopted then by so many other places.

Look at, look at fucking Japan. Look at what they did with, like, bullet trains. Art those monorail? Mm-hmm. I think most of them float now, but yeah. But it's still tugged under one rail and that's what's holding it. So, I mean, you can make that direct correlation between 1962 Monterell is invented. That inspired the entire world for public transportation, transportation throughout their countries.

I made everybody look at it differently. It's so cool that it came about just because of an Expo building. And that's still not even to sell short the space needle and just the sheer mass and size that that would have been in 1962. You have one thing that is such like a visual. icon. And then if someone were to say the monorail, you're like, yeah, it gets you from point A to point B, be like, no, but like, I know the space needle is what, you know what it is, the space needle gets all the love because it's beautiful. It's something awesome to look at. But what gets you there? The goddamn monorail. And what's, what's been getting you places from, you know,

A to B and other places throughout other cities? A monorail, guess where that came from? It came from Seattle. And we can use this, which I'm sure was probably something that they looked into is like, Even after the world's fair, this is something we're going to be able to use. And the Space Needle, I'm sure, has driven tourism so much in Seattle that it had to have. It still just makes tons and tons of money. Last time we were up there, it was like a, fuck, it was probably a two-hour wait in line to get up there. Or you can buy the express pass. I've never been in it.

I've been very close. I've stayed in a place that had a view of it, literally within a quarter of a mile. And that was amazing. but I've never taken the time when I've been up in Seattle to actually go to the space needle, but it'll be on my, hey, that gives us such an excuse to go check it out. Well, the best part about it is it's in a legal state, so you can be high while being that high. Yes. But you can either, I think it's like 30, last time we were there, I think it was like $39 for a pass to get up there,

or it was $79 for the fast pass to where you could skip everybody that was in line. They saw a restaurant up there? There's a bar area, and they might, serve food. We never got food. But you get your drink, you're already stoned. I actually smoked and hit a vape pen up there while we were up there, which feels like a personal accomplishment

that's always going to stick with me. But it's just... Change the time to ground and go. It's literally the highest I've ever been and the highest I've ever been. It was a great experience. I know I keep, I'm fascinated with this fucking monorail thing,

but looking at all these inventions that take place, even when they're taking place in the United States, you have representatives, scientists, inventors from all over the world that are coming here. How many of them are looking at this? And they, you know, of course, they're probably they're building their pavilions. They're seeing the monorail being built. And at the same time, it's inspiring projects across the entire world because you see this monorail being built and you have all of these other countries looking at and being like, this is a good fucking idea. We've been trying to figure out public transit to

make our cities more efficient. Like what do you mean? You don't have to build this? this shit on the, it doesn't have to be on the ground. So it can go over like, you know, we're good at making railroad bridges and stuff like that, but, you mean, you can still have traffic and shops underneath. This doesn't have to take up a huge amount of space. How many people were, you know,

the telephone was invented at this time, so how many people are calling back to their country? It's to me like, monorail. We're going to send you some fucking pictures over the video or over the fax machine that's been invented and everything, or we're going to take pictures and then we're going to build this shit in our own country. Same thing with the next.

Next in 64. Uh-huh. First color TV. How much would that blow your fucking mind? You see in color all the time, so maybe I'm kind of blown it out of proportion, but to only having ever viewed movies, TVs, and black and white, and then finally it switches over to color. When you're watching a football game now, you see the green field.

You see the colors of the teams. That's what I equated to. Whenever I think of color TV, for some reason, the first thing that I always think of is, like, Monday night football in like the 80s and 90s when they they would wear the gold jackets up in the booth and you'd get to see the red turtlenecks underneath the gold jackets. Probably a little OJ bias there. That's so much more pop like the just the visual like feeling you would have than seeing something in black and white.

The vibrance yeah. It it blurs the line so much further like now with like HD 1080p all that good shit. It almost some of that stuff almost looks uncomfortable to watch. because it's so close to real. Imagine how uncomfortable it would be from going to black and white and then seeing everything in the same colors and tones

that you see just walking around on a daily basis. That would be so much to try to take in. I wonder if part of that too. So, you know, obviously uniforms because everything was black and white prior to color TV, if you're doing, you know, football, uniforms had to be a very dark color,

uniforms had to be a very light color because you had black and white. You had to make that distinction. And nowadays, you see, you know, NFL teams have so many, different uniforms and you see some of the combos that come out with the away in home like yeah if you were watching a team that was dressed in a darker color blue or red or whatever that would look darker of course but you kind of wonder like why since we have color you know it's easy to

distinguish between green and red on a football team why can't teams wear green and red it's like well how much of that stems from having to have the tradition of home in a way dark color and light color like because if you're thinking about it someone's like well the quarterback can't really see like every fucking person out there knows the difference between a red and blue, unless you've got a colorblind quarterback. Then just throw to orange and brown. You're throwing between orange and brown. Like,

just fucking throw it to your right color, however you see it. But I wonder if that also kind of is a tradition that was back from the days of like black and white. It has to have been. That has to be, I'd never thought about it that way, but that has to be because all these things started out in black and white. So you had to define home and away as well as you could because you didn't want a gray area in there.

and now you see our technology has gone so far as Oregon will have like eight different colors of green on their jerseys and you can tell every single time you can see the opaque ghost wings on their shoulder pads

and the detail is just so fine and again from 64 first colored TV to now fuck you can I get Costco ads that are like do you want this 4K TV for 350 bucks and it's 70 inches and I'm like deal I'm like I don't need it

but god damn If you're going to be off from that big of a TV at that price, I don't know how I say no to that. I don't need it, but I also don't not need it. And it's so fucking casual now. Like, First Color TV is 64. Now we have an entire day dedicated to trying to stand in line to upgrade your fucking TV to something bigger and better. And not to mention, we even went through, this is another weird, obscured childhood reference.

But do you remember when you would have special episodes of, like, home improvement and 3D? And they would actually sell the glasses. Like, you could go, it seems like it was a partnership. like a fast food chain where you would go buy that that or a magazine. It was either that or a magazine because then they would be in the magazine. Yeah.

Yep. And then sometimes you would get the magazine and some asshole had gotten to the magazine before you even at the store just ripped the fucking glasses out of it. And you, that was like the big main event was to go home and watch home improvement with your 3D glasses on. We're so far beyond that now.

But it was just, that was like within a childhood lifetime. Yeah. I'm thinking that they would have special episodes in 3D that you'd have to wear special glasses to do it in. Was 64 also was the first video calling machine in 642? Yep. Imagine that, dude.

1964, the first Skype. The first, I guess, what is it now? Zoom. They're like, so have we successfully blown the fucking brain out of the back of your head? You're like, not quite. I can feel it pressing against the back of my skull. They're like, step down to this booth. We're going to go ahead and have you make a call to this person in this other booth.

And you're going to be able to see them. And I want to say, at the other end of the video calling machines was in like Disneyland. So it was another place that they'd set up like an outpost to where they could send it back and forth. Jesus. That's so sweet.

Jumping forward six years, only six years, we get IMAX. Yeah, and I think that was in Japan, so that one kind of makes sense. Yeah, but still, it's this natural progression, man. We're seeing, it's like a, um, uh, what am I trying to say here? Like an innovation,

competition. It's, I mean, as simple as that term as innovation competition where it's like, oh, you did, we, last, last time we were here, you did color TV and video calling machine. Well, guess what? Now we're going to offer you something larger and in color. So fucking big that you have to fucking crane your neck and turn your head to see the whole screen. We're going to create a screen so big that you're going to have to sit. We're going to still sit you close. Oh, yeah. But it's just going to tell you. Because that's how you're going to get the feel. Yep. It's very cool. That's why you go see Deadpool 1 in IMAX.

Yep. I mean, it's a great place to see any sort of action movie. I'm sure movies back in the day, everything, once you went to the World's Fair and you saw that, you just wish that every movie would be that way. All right. So then we have in, I'm going to jump down to one you had. What happened in 60? There's fucking jet packs in 64?

Yeah. So they were, you would, you had a total flight time in 1964 of 21 seconds on a jetpack. And I want to... 21 seconds that you're fucking flying. Yeah. It's flying for sure. But you have to make sure that you're... Like your assent has to be like...

8, 11 seconds maybe? Nope. Just to give you back to... That's too risky because you got it and stop. And then come back down because I'm guessing that thing wasn't fucking light. No. And I'm sure it was attached to something, like to keep you.

But I'm guessing, honestly, you got five feet up off the ground. Because that first power up, you're sitting there. You get five feet up. And you're like, too high, too high. Too high. And then you just... fucking lower yourself back down. But you see videos of jet packs now

where they're taken off from military ships. They fly over the water to another one. They're using them for search and rescue now up in the mountains. Like to get to the top of hills, I saw a guy fly up, and it's the two basically thrusters that you hold in your hands and the giant backpack with the fuel or whatever. At this time, what was it? It had to be

some type of propellant, but can you imagine? It was a very obscure propellant. Let me see. I kind of relate this, the whole jetpack thing to there's a scene in the first Captain America where they go to what at that time was like the World's Fair. It was the Stark Expo basically, but it was the World's Fair. And it's before Steve Rogers, you know, becomes Captain America.

He's still the small guy. And he goes with his friend to the World's Fair because they're in New York. And they see Tony Stark's dad there. And he's like, this is the first invention of what's going to be the flying car. And basically it uses like, it almost seems like it uses like a type of magnetic technology where it does like a reverse of the magnet. try to put two of the negative ends together and the magnet repels itself.

However the fuck that works. However the fuck that works. But basically the car hovered for literally three seconds at full power and then the fucking thrusters crap down and it fell down. But it was still those three seconds of where people were watching it and had to just be sitting there. Same thing with this jetpack and everyone's just sitting there

being like, where's the fucking wire? Okay, where's the wire? Where's the wire lifted this guy up? And he's like, no wires. Like watch this. He'll step out, turn around. The crowd can see it. and then he'll lift off, like, just... And then imagine, like, trying to go home and explain that to, like, your friend that didn't get to go to the World's Fair, being like,

and they had a guy that could fucking fly, and he's like, bullshit. And he's like, like, fucking Superman! He had this thing on his back, and he flew! Would it surprise you if I said that the first fuel for the jetpack is a household item that you use? Um, I'll through... Let's see. Ammonia? Mm-mm.

I don't think you'll be able to guess... Then just tell me. Hydrogen peroxide. Was the... No, that makes perfect sense. Really? Yeah, because the big thing, too, kind of off in a tangent,

if we were to find water on the moon, the reason that that would actually mean something, when you hear like, if we found water on the moon, we could establish a base. When I first heard that before I really thought into it, I was like, oh, for survival, because we could take water, and there would be water to drink

and you can make a greenhouse and you could water your crops and stuff like that. That's like a very small part of it. The other part of it is that you can take water, extract the hydrogen and make fuel because that's what they would use for a lot of the actual booster rockets

and like the main fuel was a hydrogen-based fuel. Okay, so it would be like fuel to maybe get home? To get home or to establish a base to then, because again, from the gravity on the moon, because the gravity is so light on the moon, you don't have to have as much fuel. that's the whole point what limits space travel is because it takes so much weight and fuel

to break our atmosphere. If you're launching from someplace that has a fraction of our atmosphere and gravity, you don't need that much fuel. Look at the lunar landers, those fucking rinketing little things that look like they're covered with the gold foil. Those things are able to blast off

from the moon just themselves and get into orbit. So that's kind of been the big thing. So, I mean, that makes sense that it would be a hydrogen-based fuel. Hydrogen peroxide, though. Something you clean out cuts with is not something that I would assume. How did we miss the goddamn,

damn club sandwich in 1904. I had to throw this in. You're putting all the fucking top hits down here at the bottom. Yeah. Not only that, God damn it, man. We got the club sandwich in 2004 and the hamburger. I had to throw that in because it's a Adam, it's a fucking staple of America, dude. It is. And this was the first time. This is where

you have the argument of who created the first hamburger in America. was it okay so now that we're establishing that the hamburger was first introduced to America at a World's Fair which means that inspiration in St. Louis. This isn't the whole thing about Hamburg and it was invented in Hamburg

and in Germany. So it was either an inspiration for an American innovation but again the first time someone's like what is this a hamburger booth? What are hamburgers? Is it like bacon or pork? They're like no no that's beef. Why the fuck is it called

a hamburger? Yep. That's That's been something that just absolutely, every time I think of it, I just had that same reaction. Like, why the fuck do we call these things hamburgers? They're made a cow. I'm pretty sure it's because part of it is that it was either the inspiration of it. I've heard different kind of like theories. Part of the inspiration, you know how there was the big German population that we talked about prior to like the World War II and all that kind of stuff that moved over and like settled in like the northwest, Michigan, Minnesota, all that. Part of it was that they brought over.

hamburgers, it was a person from Hamburg that brought that over and started making them in the United States or maybe just like put his own spin and popularize them and he called it a hamburger. Well, and it was just basically like a mince steak. But when it got over here, that was when it was put between two slices of bread. And the thought that they've had, and this is where a lot of the debate comes because there's a place called Louis lunch and it's over in New York. And they are the claim to fame for having the first hamburger. but that place is predated by this world's fair menu where the hamburger was introduced. And all they basically did was it was supposed to be like an immigrant's lunch that they would take out. And there's something about like it's very hard to cook an actual steak compared to ground meat because it just is going to cook way faster.

You can get the heat within the, I don't know, the fibers of like the meat and everything like that. It's smaller and everything. So Louis lunch said that they put it between two slices of bread. They put tomato and onion on it, and that was like the meal that was on the go for the workers. Excuse me. So their claim to fame was that it was an immigrant lunch that was made for workers that were out doing steel. But it was predated by this in St. Louis. So they can't really claim that they were the first hamburger in America because there was already record of it being at a world's fair.

It's like trying for Philadelphia, and I'm not saying that that's not where the cheese steak was invented. But is it that the cheese steak was just found by the guy that opened the original cheese steak. steak and he found that. It doesn't even have to be that they were selling them somewhere else. He could have been somewhere else and someone was like, oh yeah, I'd like to do this thing where I actually slice the meat really thin and then I grill it with peppers and onions and everything. He's like, that's a good idea. I'm going to go ahead and fucking do that.

It could have been an individual's idea. The thing that's also crazy about this is how many times if you're fucking like dicking around online do you see different burger rankings? Everywhere. So not only in 1904 is it the advent of essentially the hamburger to popular American culture, it's still something

that is like a constant battle today for who has the best burger. Now it's the big thing about smash burgers for smashing these fuckers flat, which in essence you're like, yeah, thank you. Smash that flat and drive out all of the fucking oil and grease and everything. But you get that beautiful crunch with it. You do. And that's why it's fucking delicious.

And then you also don't feel as guilty. Like these are smash burgers. I can throw three patties on this and it's like one regular pad. Yep. Yeah. But you do get that crunch and like the little burger remnants on the outside and the crisp and everything. Your ounce ratio, it's still just as healthy for you or unhealthy for you as just one regular

burger. It's got to be healthier. They drive out all the grease, right? Has to be, yeah. But just to think that that's been something that even now, we're sitting at 2023, almost 120 years later, and people are still trying to innovate with different toppings, different makeups of the chuck and the, you know, the meat to fat ratio and all that kind of shit. It's just like all coming out of this just thing that was invented for convenience to try to feed people as quickly as possible out of like a food cart or some shit. well and that's And the club sandwich

Well and that's why I had to throw both of these on there Because there is such thing In just being a food guy I've told you before I think my favorite thing to make Just from flour to in the oven is pizza Whenever we do burgers I always feel like there has to be

Some sort of different innovation to come up with Because it's always me trying to chase a perfect burger and I think that I've found my perfect burger, but a club sandwich is something where the variance in it can be from something that you just eat and don't really taste. The club sandwich strikes me as a stoner idea. Yeah, yep.

You get an extra layer of bread in there, so you get a little extra sustenance with it. Like, it's, you can make one for $3 or you can make one for $300 depending on your ingredients. You're just sitting there and you're like, what should we put on this, man? I'm so hungry. Oh, turn.

Turkey, turkey sounds good. What about some ham? Fucking put some ham on there. We got some bacon from breakfast. Holy shit, throw that on there. Oh, what else should we put? We'll put a piece of bread on top of that. Oh, that's going to be it?

Nah, dog. Repeat it. Same thing on top. I have a love-hate relationship with club sandwiches because you can get whoever invented the toasted club sandwich, the fuck are you doing. Oh, don't.

This is going to be something. We're definitely going to disagree on. Bridge should never be served raw. podcast so we can discuss these important issues. My outlook on it is a club sandwich on like fresh bread, soft bread. Oh God, there's nothing better because you're biting into that.

You don't have to worry about getting the roof of your mouth just completely torn to fuck. It's the sandwich equivalent of fucking Captain Crunch with Crunchberries. It's just fucking, it destroys the inside of your mouth. Because it's such a big sandwich that to get over the entire sandwich and that hard-ass bread, it's jamming that bread up against your top of your mouth. A nice soft piece of bread.

throughout the whole sandwich, man. And then you're not, you know, that middle sandwich, you're able to compress it a little bit. Get that sandwich down to a little bit more manageable size. There's got to be a time limit on it, though. Okay, I'm willing to hear you out here. Please, please list, please sell me on a toasted sandwich. A raw piece of bread is just a sponge.

So if you have a piece of lettuce, which is mostly made of water, a tomato, which is, again, mostly made of water. If you are putting mayo on it, which you should always put mayo on it, You always need some sort of a wet element inside of it. You got to moisten that. It's sandwich lube is what it is.

Let's not be coy about this. Condiments are just sandwich lube. A toasted piece of bread isn't going to soak up all that juice. I will give that to you the structural integrity of a toasted piece of bread. Far exceeds the structural integrity of a regular piece. Like you're saying, though, I think it is a timing thing. You know, at a restaurant, I see where the advantage could be. That could sit at the order window for an extra minute or two without that bread being saturated by.

those veggie juices. At the same time, you get that fresh sandwich and you eat it right away. Maybe that's part of the charm of it. You're getting those juices infused into that. Listen, I'll say agree to disagree. I'll retract my statement and just say, hey, toasted club sandwiches, not for me, not my bag. And my main

argument would just be the textual difference, too. I will say this. Because to get a little crunch with all that, that's going to say that if you can get that crunch and that bacon isn't the, it's not the soggy bacon. It's the bacon that almost like breaks up. bacon when you're eating it. Like, yeah, I could see why that would, that gives you that extra

just sensory factor of it, that crunch to it, yeah. I'll give you that. I'll give you that. All right, so I'm trying to kind of find the date so we're staying here in chronological order, so we're not missing fucking bangers like the goddamn club sandwich and hamburger.

One that we miss that we got to go way back for. 1893, Zippers. Zippers took till 1893 to figure out. I'm trying to figure out what is it always say on a zipper. Is it Z Y something? I think it's XYZ, isn't it? It's something like that. Hold on. I got zippers on my bag. And that's the thing. Is any zipper that you look at has... YKKK.

Okay, YKKK, yeah. Any zipper that you look at is always going to have that on there. Can you imagine patenting the fucking zipper? Oh, dude, that's a hell of an invention. That's got to be... You're not going to be the richest guy in the world now because they're so cheap to make. You were trying to tell me a few podcasts ago. We were trying to talk about about inventions and what had the most impact on the world. I think it was joking about it and you said like treadmills about the

most thing. I think if you look at aside from like maybe penicillin and all the stuff that kind of came as an off shoot of penicillin is there anything more widely used than a fucking zipper? No, it's got to be the greatest standalone invention because

the zipper is really all you need. It's always going to be, we get into like you get Velcro and all that shit but nothing's ever going to be a strong Zipper. I don't even there's something about a zipper. I don't know if it's like, it's such a simple thing. Like,

how are you going to close this? I'm just going to make alternating teeth on this that threw me pulling this little tabby. It just ends up locking it. Basically, someone looked at a gear and how a gear worked and said, I could probably just make this

into some type of closing device. And they did that. And not only is it just, you know, I wonder where the application of that was actually invented if it was something for clothing, because it's not just clothing now. It's clothing,

uh, backpacks, sleeping bags. I know I'm going to miss a shit ton of stuff. What else has zippers? I mean, I think that covers but three insanely huge things. Yeah, I mean, anything that you need to connect.

Yeah, tents. A zipper device. Pop-up tents, more pop-up campers. All have zippers to secure. And the thing is, too, is it's not like, oh, the zippers is strong enough. Zippers can just be extrapolated and made to be

huge fucking interlocking. devices. And how many different inventions did zippers then go on to inspire? Like if you're really thinking about zippers, do you think that an offshoot of that would be plastic bag sealing? Because then that showed them like, we just have to figure out a way to do an interlocking system that maybe isn't a zipper, but maybe it's just like two rails that like... Still airtight, still watertight. Yeah, it's, I would argue to say that a zipper is something that you use on a daily basis more than anything else. I... Because they're just everywhere. backpacks.

I'm trying to think if I've gone, I mean, I wear sweats. I mean, I don't have a zipper on me right now, actually. But I used a zipper literally, you know, two and a half hours ago when I was on. You had one at arm's reach at all times to be able to see the YKK on it. Yeah. It's a very crazy invention that 1893, it's been around for forever, but 1893 seems like it's still fairly recent for something that's on just fucking everything. 17. Cell phone.

1970. No wires. Cell phone. It was just a wireless phone. So I'm assuming at a wireless phone, it's got to be like in-house. I'm thinking, yeah. The old Sony one that looked like the Zach Morris, a larger version of the Zach Morris cell phone.

That had still the hard antenna that stuck, or even some of the ones at home had the extendable antenna. Yeah, you can pull out to get better range so you could hear somebody better. God, can you, do you remember always seeing this? shows where they have the kitchen phone. That's like the main phone, but it's got the cord on it that's like 18 feet long. So that was my family. Yeah. I grew up with that. The same thing. Exactly where it is. Just that it was so big. Would you say that the wireless phone and a house was driven more towards

adults or children? Adults. You think? Yeah. But adults, just for a convenience, because how many times did a kid come in and get fucking clothes lined while you had the thing wrapped around you at the, you know, stow trying to make something while you were talking on the phone. Or they came in and fucking either pulled the phone off the wall or jerked a receiver out of your hand or something. Uh-huh. They're like, tired of your kids strangling themselves with the phone cord? Try the new wireless phone. By Panasonic.

I can just think as a kid that was always the move when you were talking to your friends or, especially when you were talking to a girl that you liked. You always wanted to be in another room where nobody else could hear you so it wouldn't seem so awkward. We had, I think, one in our house that we eventually got was a wireless. And there was, I never had the one that had the retractable to pull out antenna. And I feel bad that I didn't have that because I feel like there was something about the process of getting ready to make that call to that girl. And you got in your room and you got prepared and you extended that thing out to give yourself that crystal clear wireless film reception. You wanted to hear every word she said.

Changed a lot of slumber parties. The advent of that changed the mood of a lot of slumber parties. I do remember how much of a big gift it was because my older brother got his own phone line and that was just the kiddies' titty. That was the best gift that he had gotten was having his own like independence before cell phones, before pagers maybe even.

I think pagers were probably a thing at this time because I always remember even in like... Caddyshack. Yeah, like looking down and it was the big ass thing. But even at that point, I think all it told you was, like, call something. So it was basically just a tiny fax machine. This was, yeah, a phone line of your own was just such an independent move to where you could be on the phone all night talking to your friends and anything like that. And it was just such a cool thing.

Luckily, after he moved out, they just turned that one to the computer line. So that way we had a free phone line. Uninterrupted. Uninterrupted downloads. It still took you the full day. But you pray to God, no one was calling on that line. There was less of a chance. Yep.

All right. So then we go to 82. This one actually kind of surprises me that it took this long. Cherry Coke. Yeah, there was a litany of different flavors that were introduced in 82. But cherry Coke stuck around because it was the most popular flavor at the fair. Like they did kind of like a straw pole to figure it out. But we see overseas, I'm very much tied into the culture of like candy and sodas from other countries just because it's something different than what you grew up with.

Do you know there's a guy, this is kind of besides point, but this might be actually useful information if anyone's interested. There's a guy who I think he runs a business here in the States. And his entire thing, he's called like the snack guy. And he brings in all of these snacks from all other places in the world or all these little niche snacks. And you can just go online and he does this thing. He has either like an Instagram channel and he puts people's like, this is order number 9,422 for Deborah. Deborah wanted this, and he pulls all the stuff off the shelf, and he's pulling Japanese Kit Katz that are cookies and cream flavored.

Mochi flavor. And he's pulling Rick Ross, jalapeno cheesy chips, Snoop Dog chips, like things that you never really see. But he's also pulling these things from like, oh, these are tiramisu from McDonald's in, you know, England or something like that. And just the things that they have, kind of like just thinking how. simple the whole thing like oh yeah cherry coke was invented and you know brought to the masses through

world's fair would there be any place if you were a company to unveil a new product to get a sense if this would be a worldwide success oh yeah like you you automatically not only are you basically testing it and getting polls from people in your country you know the people that you're going to be serving this to first and foremost but all of a sudden you're getting all of this feedback and you're saying like, oh shit, like the German people that are here looking at this or the people working at the German people who love this fucking Cherry Coke. Or holy shit, like, Chinese are going nuts for this kind of stuff. And you're like, this is a fucking hit. Or you have fucking, you know, how many, like you were saying, how

cherry Coke was just the winner of this. How many different fucking flavors of Coke were they rolling out at this point? Well, yeah, you can find those all around the world. They have just, any flavor that you can think of is probably available out there. And this just speak so much to the globalization that these worlds fairs help bring in. Because like you say, you get R&D at that point to where you're having people fill things out saying, well, I'm from Germany. I like this flavor over this flavor. You're ranked choice in your flavors. So if you get a large contingent of Japanese people. It's the best cross section. It's the best world right cross section in one place that you can possibly get. Yeah. And it just spurs international

distribution of all this different stuff that you're making. Here's my card. Oh, you run a distribution place over in Japan? Excellent. We should talk. Let's get this fucking ball rolling. So is that the, is that kind of, and 82, that's kind of around the time we probably stopped a few years later. It's when we kind of got out of the World's Fair game. Yeah.

We still had, we were more participants than hosts. And that's sort of, all the good ones that we highlighted, there's still a ton of other good. It's so much shit that came out of these things. Between the time that we kind of dropped out of it is the United States, I mean, I don't even want to imagine based upon just the technological advancements from, let's even just say the 80s to now that they probably display at some of these fairs that we really don't have a presence. We don't have a presence out. I mean, from like a privatized stand, you know, privatized or not privatized civilian standpoint, people go over there. And I'm sure we also do send people over to these world fairs from the government to kind of take a look at what's going on. Of course, we probably have ways of finding out what they're going to, you know, we probably know about this stuff from a government standpoint before they're unveiling it. Because it's not like people nowadays at World's Fair are going to unveil stuff that someone can just copy or reverse engineer. It's going to be something that they've already developed. They already have a

string of hold on. Yeah. And then they're like, hey, look at what we just invented. By the way, you can't build this. Well, even then, with as global as everything is, America still reaps the benefits of these other countries going over with their technologies and showing it off because so much of it's built in America that they're going to be selling the microchips to these people to put in these different robots and other things that they're doing. So America still benefits on a private sector. Like what do you you guys just send us over the plans for the robot so we know how this microchip is going to fit into it so we can design it so it works with your robot. By the way, when your robots here, we're going to take the fucker apart and figure out this

robot works. And we're going to reverse engineer the shit of this. Yeah. So we're still kind of there's still an American element into them. As much as we do the good, we always... Oh, there was some real, real hate this shit that took places. In the name of what, like, look at, like, the science behind this, or, like, who had the idea that some of this shit was, like, a good idea? And you're going to have to lead me through this, because I have no idea about these bad ones.

Just even reading off the board, though, like, I can't wait to get into this. Yeah, man, it's a... It's sort of a head scratcher to talk about, but 1904, which was in St. Louis, which was the celebration of the Louisiana purchase, the anniversary of it, we had something called human zoos. And human zoos were 47 acres of just human exhibits. And the biggest one held a thousand Filipino people. And this was after America went into the Philippines and liberated them and then also took. them over at the same time. We're here to help.

Yeah. Yeah. Trust us. We're here to help. So they shipped over a thousand Filipinos that lived in this living exhibit. And within this living exhibit, you have all the tropes about like Asian people eating dogs. And tropes as far as we think it happens far more than it does. It's basically a way to try to do like a controlled study to reinforce all of these fucking

stereotypes or tropes. Like you were saying that these people had like, oh my God. Are they really going to, like, we don't see any dogs in their display? Did they eat all the dogs? Like, no, they just didn't put any fucking dogs in their display. They actually, because certain cultures, Filipinos being one of them, there's still certain days or, like, times that they eat dog. But they were feeding them dog every single day in these exhibits

just so the people could see that to reinforce that stereotype. So. Like see, see it happens. Uh-huh. Well, yeah, if you're giving them nothing. But fucking dog and it's been part of their culture. Of course they're going to fucking do it. These people are captive.

They're hungry because they're in an entire enclosure. You're not feeding them anything else. So it was 47 acres. So were these 1,000 people spread across this 47 acres? I think 47 acres was the entirety of the human zoo. Did it say what, like if any other? Yeah. Yeah, there was a, I think they used the word pygmy, African American,

that they brought over. that they actually purchased from slave traders just specifically for this World's Fair to bring them in and show sort of the divide between our American and just basically advanced cultures

like further advanced speech it was just basically a way to say like hey look how shitty these people have it yeah like this is the look how cool we are compared to this It was basically them to give a point of perspective. Advanced societies. Yeah, in case you didn't realize how advanced we are and everything like that,

I present to you exhibit A, the Pygmy people of Africa. Like, we could be these people and you're just kind of like, looking at that now you're like, well, yeah, like probably not the fucking best looked at fucking people that you're holding captive. Were they actually in like, of course it's not going to be cells? There were enclosures. It was like the zoo. It was literally like a zoo for human. beings.

And they actually, some of them, because this was after slavery was outlawed, of course, but they would really push, like they would ramp up the people of Liberia. Because Liberia is basically made up of all the slaves that were then freed and went back over to Africa. And they were trying to sign African Americans up to send them back to Liberia to get them out of the country. like that was their they were saying Liberians are going to be so advanced

They were basically trying to use this as a form For like immigration or some shit like that Trying to send them back to get them out of the country Like just that that bad In 1904 in St. Louis Yeah They would have anthropology days Where they would provide evidence

In quotation marks As far as like cranial capacity And the size of somebody's head To try to prove that there were certain races and minorities that couldn't be as smarter to us because their heads weren't as developed. So this is the scene off Django

where Calvin Candy is explaining the skull comparison, everything like that, where it's the three dots and difference in... Yeah, you're measuring all these different things that really have absolutely no bearing on any of it. And don't really show the entire picture of it, but it's just another way to try to be like, yeah,

this is white people's superiority over all these other places. Look at all this we built and these people don't have big enough brains. So it's not surprising. Like, you know, like I don't know if we're not shocked by this or anything. Like it's shitty and it's fucking horrible

that this is part of our history. But that's part of the bad. Is it surprising to you? Especially after all of the shit we've covered up to this point. It's just another thing like of, it's not even like, why did we do this? It's of course we did this. Yeah, and it's, you have to, unfortunately, kind of expect it.

It's a, we were working so far in these other advancements. Was there any specific country that did the evidence for white superiority, yeah? I do see that technically maybe being part of the German booth. What do the Germans bring this year? Yeah. Why does everybody that's working in the German booth all have blonde hair and blue eyes and they're all six feet tall? Is this the Denmark booth?

No, no, no, it's the Germans. It is not the Denmark booth. The potato farmers. All right, so we got the good, the bad, and now the ironic. Yeah, I cut down the bad section just because there's plenty more bad stuff, but this is a great episode

that we're trying to keep positive. So the two most ironic things that I can think of, so these both happen in 1986, and the 1986 World's Fair, it was more of like a, it wasn't necessarily recognized. It was kind of like an offshoot, but there were still a bunch of countries. This is the one that didn't get the approval from the committee.

In 86? Yes, they didn't get approval, so it wasn't an officially, like, sanctioned World's Fair. Two major things happened in 1986, and they're just, it's incredible. The first one, so the American exhibit that was scheduled for 19, 86, scheduled a year in advance probably to get all this stuff done, was America's pension for space exploration.

Look to the stars. Yeah, we're on our way. We made it to the moon. We're sending people back up there. We're making all the stuff happen. Unfortunately, I think this fair started in April. January 26th, we had the Challenger explosion that happened where they were taking off into the atmosphere and just blew up.

They were coming down. I actually just saw some stuff about this, yeah, because it was, uh, we just hit the two days ago, maybe within the last week. Oh yeah, we're right there, 26. We're right at the anniversary

of it actually happening. And it was upon the mission, they said, was seamless, and it was within reentry that one of the tiles underneath this actually did know a little about. So during launch,

you know, when the shuttle launches, they say what it does is this thing called like rocket sway. And when they fire up the boosters, they say the tower that the rocket is on the actual rocket with the shuttle attached.

can actually like sway like six feet to each side. And then when the boosters hit, that's what then stabilizes it to get it to go level. And when that happens, you know, when you see the slow motion, you see all of like, because the hydrogen is so cold in the tank, you see the ice, almost not the ice,

but the frost kind of breaking. There's condensation that freezes. When the like arms break off of it to release the shuttle, they said there was something that came off of the, the big orange tank that they used the primary fuel tank, came off and kind of hit the bottom of the shuttle. and what they think happened was you have those ceramic tiles that coat the entire bottom of the shuttle.

They're all blocks. Yep, and that's what's able to withstand all the heat. It says it damaged one of those, and I think it made a hole through the ceramic coating. So when it was coming in on reentry, just that little hole, it burned a hole through the shuttle, and then that's what took it out. And that's why it broke up.

But so you're saying that, did they still go on with the exhibit? Yep, yep, yep, pivot. You can't pivot after three months. it's like, um, what else are they going to come up with on such short notice? Read the room. Like, could you imagine all the people that they sent up there and they're sitting there talking to people that they're booth or in their exposition building about American space exploration?

Like, hey. Every single person coming in to be like, the fuck happened with Challenger. Yeah. And you just have people sitting there. There's probably like, what, three people from NASA maybe there. And everyone else is just trying to work this thing. And they're just like, I don't, I don't know what happens. It usually doesn't happen to us.

We've had a lot of real good missions. Well, and it's not, it wasn't uncommon during even the World's Fair prior to this when, like, we first started launching satellites into space. A lot of the Russian and American ones were like a challenge back and forth or like competition between showing what, you know, their space vehicles. So I think the first time that the Russians, because they got Sputnik up before we got a satellite. And like, they had a display of Sputnik. And America didn't have anything at that point. And then, like, the next year we had our space exploration thing. And then I think they had something related to space and, like, armaments or some shit.

But ironically enough, also in 86, the Russian exhibit, what was this nuclear power? Yep. Yep. Yeah. The Russians had taken our nuclear abilities from what we had in World War II to build a bomb and then all the nuclear. They just basically ramp that up because they knew that they needed to power their country somehow. So nuclear technology was going to be huge. A lot of land.

Yep. Big place. A lot of people. So when did the world's fair take place? You were saying April, right? Yeah, I think I was wrong with that. I think it was May because this also happened right before. Okay.

So what happened in 86 in April? We had the Chernobyl disaster. Chernobyl. The largest nuclear disaster to ever happen on face of the earth. Yep. And we still, this city is still cordoned off and you still have to be let in and out through security because you can only be in there so long because there's so much nuclear

radiation that it'll fuck your body up if you're there for two long. Do you know they have like supersized wolves? Yeah. In the forest around Chernobyl and shit. There's a show on the animal planet called River Monsters. And it's this guy named Jeremy Wade. He's either British or Australia. I don't know which one.

The accent's very analogous. But he actually is able to go in there and fish for these massive catfish that they think have been affected by nuclear radiation and he can only be in there for, I think he got to pass for like 48 hours.

I was gonna say is he fishing with a fucking Geiger counter or like a fucking mask on? He actually, they have to bring Geiger counters wherever they go to fish in order to make sure that the Geiger's are low enough that they won't be exposed to enough radiation. Lethal within that amount of time. Yeah, dude.

Like that's how bad it still is and this happened in 86. I wonder between the time that, you know, Russia has this exhibit and everything like that it's 86. Worldwide News is a thing. So as soon as Tramilu'll happen, this isn't like this happening.

Like imagine this happened like 50 years before we're, you know, communication isn't as quick and widespread. 86. This happens, you know, if you're saying four or five days before the opening of the World's Fair.

This is already national news. This has reached everybody, especially where's this one taking place in 86? Vancouver in Canada. Vancouver. Yeah. Everyone fucking knows about this already. So at least,

you know, I'm not trying to make light of the Challenger explosion or anything like that. But if you want to go ahead and compare who probably had a worse time trying to answer people's questions, it might have been that people having to explain the Challenger explosion versus the people trying to explain how they nuked an entire fucking city. Well, you imagine just the two different countries. Like, in America, everybody's trying to explain it in a certain way to make it sound like, less bad. In Russia, they're like, we're Russia. We don't have to answer your questions.

This happens, but we're also very good at everything else. Listen, many people die, yes. Many people die, but we also have many people left. Many people die every day. Have you been to America's booth? They sent them up into space, and then they blew them up. That's way worse. That's what I was going to say.

They're just like, um, we don't just send people recklessly into space for them to die. Our people died trying to supply power to the Russian people. I have a horrible Russian accent, but You nailed it. It's great. Your accents are awesome. Trying to do his Russian accent.

Actually, he probably sounds better. He is the machine. It's, yeah, just, that's one thing is if anybody takes anything away from this, the biggest thing is just almost the amazement of how many inventions or innovations. Imagine the World's Fair wasn't even a thing. And we'll take a couple of these inventions and innovations. How many years do you think it would take for some of these inventions? They still would have been invented by their home countries, whatnot,

because they were obviously working on. them at the time. But what is this due to every other society or country that got the idea or took the idea back from seeing something at these expos and then introduced that or put their own spin on it? Because, you know, not every country that invents something here is going to do it the best. We talk about this all the time. America is the best at a couple different things. It's usually fucking weapons and like what trash entertainment? Yep. I would probably say the two best things there. but you have places that may have designed like, you know, let's go back and say, well, not the monorail. Okay.

We may be in the first to introduce it, but then look at what other countries have done with that technology. And we just look at it and it's like, why the fuck, how do we not have that? Like, we were the first to have it, but we just kind of like didn't do anything with it. We were focused on so many of the things and these people were just solely focused that they created. It's because we saw so many other things from all these other countries. everything. We were just like, fuck, we designed the monorail, but fucking Japan has this fucking robot that we have to try to mimic now or a fucking underwear vending machine.

Like, how do we bring underwear vending machines over here? We spread so many ideas that we took, or we tried to take everything back. It was like, everybody was in a constant, everybody was focused on like one good thing. We were focused on trying to be better than everybody else at all their stuff. Yep. Yeah, and every single thing. We had a cigarette smoking robot and now Tokyo has robots that can run Ninja Warrior courses, just that

fast. No, I think that's us. Oh, is that still us? Well, that's Boston Dynamics, but I'm maybe, I'm sure China and Japan have something that they're not even showing us. The average height of the people that work at Boston Dynamics is probably in the fives. I would guess there's probably some people that aren't naturally, maybe first generation, second but people that have come over.

What do you think if you had to kind of break down, just the ones that we discussed, that had, oh, just a few other things. Before we get into what we think was it, the Ford Mustang also appeared at the 1967 World's Fair. Very cool. Doesn't get any more American than that. I want to say it was in the early 2000s,

BMW had a hydrogen power car? I just hit that one, 2001. Hanover World Fair, BMW Hydron. How did that not fucking go anywhere? Well, I know how that didn't go anywhere, and it's tinfoil hatty, but it's simply... Big oil. Yeah, it's simply the fact that if you have the idea in the patent for a hydrogen power car,

and someone offers you an godly amount of money, not just one company, but a conglomerate of companies that know it's going to ruin them, that never sees the light of day. But the simple fact, like, do you think if that happened now, like if someone, that invention didn't take place,

but now someone invented the hydrogen powered car, do you think it would be able to be something where someone could, you know, what am I trying to say here? Someone would be able to hold out and not sell that idea and be able to, I guess it depends on the person. if that person, because if you really think about it,

if that person sold the idea to, or just provided a free reign for the idea for car companies and everything like that, do you think anyone would have taken off with it, or do you think that gas and oil is so intrinsically entrenched within automobile industry or vehicle industry that it's, we're seeing it now where everyone is now designing electric. But at the same time, it's not like electric is harmless because you still have to fucking mine all of the,

The lithium and everything like that, and there's only so much of that out there. But the simple fact that there exists a technology, it's not fucking tinfoil hatie or like conspiracy. This was at a World's Fair, a hydrogen powered car. And I realized that hydrogen also doesn't, isn't the destructive capability for the power that it would be more destructive than gas. Like so traffic accidents might. Hydrogen bombs are much more. And I'm sure the technology is not the same as far as that goes, but still if it's something powerful enough to power an automobile, then it has to have some type of explosive or like combustive force.

Well, and now it seems like we've created two barriers of entry to the power and automobile market because you used to just have to deal with big oil, but now big batteries in it too. So if you're going to come up with something that's going to trump both of those, you have to fight through two barriers in the market. It's just weird to think that like, so with the hydrogen power car,

and the technology to do that, is that something where there's only one way to do it? Because the whole thing with patents is you can't get close enough to one patent to violate it, but you can get pretty close to something and how something works and make it your own thing. I'm just trying to figure out in all this time, I mean, is it just that there's not enough money available in this

for somebody to just do it? Or is it simply the fact that no one can get close enough to this without violating the copyright laws? Man, if you were the first, car company. Maybe. Why don't you just charge, like, imagine if you were a car company that came out. Look at, look at Tesla.

The whole point was Tesla is you avoid gas for the remainder of the time that you drive it. So that's why you're going to pay more automatically for it. That's why Tesla's are, what's the base model, like a $30,000 to $35,000 car? At least probably 40s. And then I think you have subscriptions to Tesla. And then you have to, that takes care of their infrastructure to build charging stations and all that shit.

But at the same time, if you had a hydrogen powered car and you were like, this is an $80,000 car. Base model, not a lot of frills or anything like that, but you can fucking fill this. You know, you're going to have to have whatever we have to install in your home to make your water pure enough to actually do this or to separate it. That's an extra $20,000 to install that in your home, but it just operates off the city water or whatever water you're getting. Would you pay $100,000 to know that maybe you didn't have to pay for gas or even the electricity to charge the car? It was just off the water. I'm not saying

you would be so widely prevalent. You look at electric cars today and if I'm driving down the road and I come up to a stoplight, I can maybe count, if it's busy, I can count one or two electric cars. Still mostly gas around me.

But it would be the exact same thing. Had this been allowed to, you know, get legs and flourish, it would be where we'd be sitting at a stoplight, maybe a quarter of cars could be hydrogen-powered cars. And maybe,

it is a tough to harness type of fuel as far as, because like you say, if it's more of a combustible, scary element, because that was one thing with Tesla's

when... This is bursting into flames getting too hot or something, right? Yeah, when Tesla's crash and something happens and those batteries are compromised, bad shit happens. Oh yeah. And I wonder, too, if it's something

that, you know, if you would have hydrogen-powered cars, if there wouldn't be a, big enough industry outside of the actual production of those cars. Because like if you think about a car now, it's like not only are you getting the car, but you're also now supporting, you self to do tires, of course, if you have a power car, so you're still getting, you know, petrol rubber industry. But you're no longer tied to the gas or, you know, big oil or anything like that.

So whereas the infrastructure is just building the cars. After you send the car off the lot, it's like, oh, there's no tie, there's nothing tying you here. We can, we're the only ones that can work on it. everything because this is new technology or probably you're not going to fucking go in your garage and be working on your hydrogen fucking no that's not you're not

no you don't know how to you're not changing the oil it's a Tesla it's the same thing with electric cars you got to take them back to a certain place to have them worked on but well anything like Tesla to me Tesla all it is is just a proof of concept of the strength of their batteries because all Tesla does with cars is prove

that this can be used in a myriad of other elements that need energy so if you can prove that you have a Tesla car that's on the road and is stable and you can expand the range of it for the batteries, then it goes into trains, then it goes into planes, then it goes...

How many trains run off electricity where you see the wires above them and they're always connected to them? So I mean, you know that that technology is there, but that's just if any... We'll pick our favorites, but if anything could have changed the course, I think, really of our society, it actually probably was this one invention

that got snuffed out. So what's your favorite out of all the good ones? If you had to pick off the list that we renamed, that you think had the biggest impact. Zippers is off the table. That's top tier. That's untouchable. Because obviously that has probably the most far-reaching,

as simple as it is. Simplest ideas are usually the most successful. Zippers is definitely one-one. Just to give myself a little challenge as far as daily uses, I mean, video calling, wireless phones, all these things that have led to the technology that we use today, or just always, they're life-changing. But I'm going to have to go with the ice cream cone

because the ice cream cone became a vessel that you could carry one of the stickiest substances known to man. It's worldwide. Worldwide, and it's not financially dependent on you being rich. It's ice cream cones aren't a, would you consider an ice cream cone? No, ice cream cones, you go into a place now to get ice cream or frozen yogurt or whatever. The ice cream cone is the cheese.

cheapest option. It also holds the least amount of ice cream, but a cup is normally now, or a specialized waffle cone and stuff is normally, that's, you know, you're paying a little bit more. That's your bullish status. It's luxury. But the ice cream cone, if you were to just say ice cream, I mean, the cone itself, you just show some ice cream cone. They know what that is.

It's now the preferred delivery method almost for... It's edible. There's zero waste to an ice cream cone. Because even if you don't. eat it, it's still going to be biodegradable. And then you ramp up the technology now where you can fill the whole cone up, and you put that little chocolate. Remember those Schwan's ones?

Yeah. With the chocolate fudge at the bottom and everything. That gave you all the incentive to eat the whole cone. So you got down to that chocolate at the bottom. Well, it's a vessel that almost saves you from sticky hands that will get everywhere. Just the convenience. Not your child. Well, it's impossible to stay.

As an adult, yes, you can strategically lick around it to keep from dripping as a child. You don't have the worth-with-all for that shit. You can drive with an ice cream cone in your hand as an adult. You don't feel bad about throwing it out if you have it left because it'll just get eaten and everything. Yeah, it's something that everybody uses. And not to mention, you can make a sugar cone for three, four cents. Like, just the cheapest thing that you could ever imagine,

but has held the test of time for hundreds of years, well, 100 years plus now, that we still see everywhere. And an ice cream cone is just the most. iconic thing. You could take somebody that had been in prison for 30 or 40 years and bring them out and show them like an iPhone and it's like, what the fuck is that? That's the craziest thing that I've ever seen. Ice cream Zillans

having had to advance beyond what they are. Wireless phones they're now almost completely unrequished. The technology is you know, it's in the wheelhouse, but it's so drastically different from the advent of the wireless

phone. The ice cream cone, it's still a cone, it's still a cone, it's still edible. It's timeless. It's proof that we got it right the first time. Yes. Yes. All right. I'm going to go with hamburger. Hamburger is also a very good.

Good choice. I mean, yeah, we have stuff. We got color TV. We have the wireless phone, all that kind of stuff. But if you were to worldwide, you know, find out if people were more familiar, I understand everyone. They say everyone has a cell phone. everyone in a developed culture probably has a cell phone.

A lot of people don't have cell phones. It's just as simple as that. But there's a fucking McDonald's or something fucking everywhere. On every block. And the only reason McDonald's ever got as popular as it did, not just because of their method of serving and everything like that, fucking hamburger, man. So easy.

It's its own little caring device. It's a portable meal. It's like you said, I don't think the hamburger as we know it, like you said, was the first advent of it. It was probably two pieces of bread. It wasn't a toasted bun or anything like that. I'm sure that came along shortly after when people started complaining about like, hey, I need a little toast barrier here to stop all the stuff from leaking through or just that circular pattern or whatnot. Square bread ain't working. Yeah, square bread. Yeah, square bread, what are we doing here?

Either make, you know, either be Dave Thomas and make the goddamn squared patties and then end up moving to a circular bun anyway. which I don't know what Dave's doing there. Do you imagine if Wendy's would have just stitched with a square button that could have been their thing like White Castle? A huge. They would own their own corner of that market. They're already synonymous with the square patty.

But just the simple fact that I don't know you'd be hard pressed to find somebody outside of somebody who was born and never had meat, but they still know what a hamburger is. But you'd be hard pressed to find anybody that has never had a hamburger. I could find you people that maybe haven't really used a cell phone or don't have one or something like that,

but I don't know if I could find you somebody that hasn't really had a hamburger. Well, and this is where the sentiment, sentimental side of me kind of comes in with food is you can go and have like a five-star meal somewhere and pay a thousand bucks a plate, and it's going to be incredibly delicious. You're going to experience flavors and textures and things.

I was going to say you're, the flavor profiles that you're going to have are going to be so, you know, top tier and outrageous and so different from one another. it's going to be the peak of those. And that's something that you can kind of compartmentalize as a single memory. But a hamburger will evoke so many memories. As far as like a smash burger, it'll take you back to getting done with a Little League game

and going over to the cart and getting a burger after a game. Can you get McDonald's on the way home? Yeah. I don't feel like making dinner. You guys want McDonald's? Yeah. The quickest dinner that you could get for a family coming home. It was that or pizza.

And yeah, as far as, that goes, you can always remember like a very good, delicious, expensive meal, but a very good delicious. Do you remember that more because of the money you associated with? Because it was a, well, it was an experience. Yeah, it was more of an experience in the actual thing. But I would put a good burger made with care and love up against those big expensive meals because you can still coax the kind of different flavor profiles out of a hamburger. and toppings and the makeup of the meat

and what you choose to put in the meat, the cheese that you use. Exactly, yeah, you can make a cheeseburger with 15 different ways. Flavor of the bread or the sesame seeds on it can completely alter the flavors that you're receiving. I'm trying to think too, like, you know, what food as a kid, you know, pizza is always out there. Remember when you were a kid and everyone was like,

what's your favorite food? Pizza. You never really thought about it. Pizza was just one of those things that you got to have, and it was always, you never had sad pizza. No. pizza was never for fucking pizza was always like oh it's special the thing about that is like between pizza and burgers was there ever a food or a meal that invoked such like an exhilarating feeling as a child like we're getting McDonald's and you know you had the happy mill you had the toys little bonus that went in there if it was hot wheels week or if it was something cool and everything but man just just an entire industry completely built off the back of the burger and having its humble beginnings in 1904 in a world's fair and just it branching out from there.

You have the robin to every bet man. You can go with fries, you can go with chips, just something perfect. Sometimes you get crazy, you throw some fries on the burger just to add another textual element. It's such a versatile creation.

Whereas the ice cream cone, we kind of got it right the first time, a burger can constantly just be changed and tweaked. You can throw it in a tortilla for a Spanish-Mexican burger style. You can do anything that you want. Cheeseburger castrile. Yep. Yeah. It led to so many different things. I know it sounds kind of silly to talk so, you know, lovingly and put burger on such a pedestal, but I mean, boil down what such a simple thing is. It's like, we got to make a bunch of shit real quick for people to eat while they're walking around. Well, just like, do we do just, no, like we can do more meat if we do ground beef. Let's save ourselves some money. Let's do ground beef. Doesn't have to be even the highest quality. Like a steak would have to be. And then what do we put that through? I don't know. Let's just make a, a freaking beef sandwich.

How do we get this out faster? Well, if we cook one eight-ounce patty, it's going to take three to four minutes on each side. We can put them, and we can just make them a circular pattern. We can just pack them in and line them all up. Yeah, or we can cut that in half,

and we can do two four-ounce patties. We can cook it in half the time and still provide the exact same amount of meat. There's so many different ways that you can cook something faster, more efficiently. Yes, cheaper. You can add fillers by putting

in lettuce, tomato things that are one and two cents a portion and who eats those things by themselves? Like, can you, like, think about that? Like, what do you think as far as this is getting, like, down a hole on these? I could do a whole episode on burgers pretty easily. How much do you think the burger industry,

lettuce, tomato onions? What percentage of the lettuce, tomato onion industry, has ties to, like, burgers? It has to be the market share. There's no way that it's not. the majority. I can't think if you told me, I'm like, well, yes, sandwiches, but what's more popular sandwiches are burgers?

I don't even know what the answer to that is. I like sandwiches now more than burgers, but I've never had a sandwich as good as the best burger I've had. No. And it's not even close. And it's almost like the sandwich is like the more calorie smart version of the burger. The burger is the gluttonous, delectable treat that you want to give yourself in order to make a treat beat sandwich.

Yeah, you'll feel pretty good. You'll feel full after a club sandwich, but you're not going to feel that kind of malaise the burger. That contentment and satisfaction. Yeah. That grease, everything just... Yeah, we went burger pouring on this real quick. That's fine.

Do you have anything else to add after that? That's a good note for me to end this one on it unless you have anything else. Yeah, if you can't get yourself a burger before 2025, maybe go to Osaka, maybe bring yourself in a world fair, but... They probably have some... just crazy burger concoctions and different shit over there, man. Yeah, if you can't make it there, find your local burger establishment to do some crazy shit.

That'll be the way of the future for you. And just remember, you're eating a little piece of history. Every single time. Every time. All right, guys, thanks for listening to us again, and we'll see you next week. Peace. All right, ladies and gentlemen, thanks for joining us for another episode. If you like what you heard, hit that subscribe and like button.

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