History That Doesn't Suck - 200: The North African Campaign: Desert Rats, the Desert Fox, & Operation Torch

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

“This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is perhaps the end of the beginning.”  This is the story of the Allied campaign in North Africa.  Long under the colonial ...thumb of the belligerent European nations—namely, France, Italy, and Britain—North Africa becomes the sandy stage for months of ugly tank battles featuring characters like the Desert Rats (Britain’s 7th Armoured Division), and the Desert Fox (Field Marshall Erwin Rommel). By the time American reinforcements arrive in Vichy French–held African ports for Operation Torch, the Brits and the Axis powers have been chasing each other across the Saharan desert for quite a while, the latest development being a heartening Allied victory at El Alamein, Egypt.  The newly arrived G.I.s must quickly learn brutal lessons about tank warfare, but they soon come into their own after battles like Kasserine Pass and El Guettar, while simultaneously being whipped into shape by none other than "Old Blood and Guts" General George S. Patton. As U.S. forces move east into Tunisia and Bernard “Monty” Montgomery’s men continue moving west from Libya, we’ll see if this continent-wide pincer maneuver will break Rommel’s two-war winning streak, or if the Allies will finally score a hit against the thus-far (almost) unstoppable Germany.  ____ Connect with us on ⁠⁠⁠HTDSpodcast.com⁠⁠⁠ and go deep into ⁠⁠⁠episode bibliographies⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠book recommendations⁠⁠⁠ join discussions in our ⁠⁠⁠Facebook community⁠⁠⁠ get news and discounts from ⁠⁠⁠The HTDS Gazette⁠⁠⁠  come ⁠⁠⁠see a live show⁠⁠⁠ get ⁠⁠⁠HTDS merch⁠⁠⁠ or become an ⁠⁠⁠HTDS premium⁠⁠⁠ member for bonus episodes and other perks. HTDS is part of Audacy media network. Interested in advertising on the History That Doesn't Suck? Contact Audacyinc.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ben Sawyer. How you doing, man? Greg Jackson, I'm doing great, and you got a book coming out. I do have a book coming out. You ever thought about the greatest way possible to celebrate your book coming out? Yes, actually, and I think the best way to do that is on Open Waters. You want to go on a history cruise? I think that's a great idea. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:00:19 We should record an episode of The Road to Now at Sea. Okay, but you have to do your live show then. So you want me to do my live show and launch my book? Okay. Yes, guys, everything you just heard. is real. We are going on a cruise May 18th through May 22nd. We're going to be on the open water. It is history. It is fun. It is nature. It is blue skies and blue seas. Come hang out with me. Come hang out with Ben and have a great time in the Caribbean.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Visit hddskruise.com slash one zero for $100 off per cabin. That's hddsds cruise.com slash 100. It's an early Wednesday morning, July 3rd, 1940. And Captain Cedric Holland has a stern, tense face as his vessel. The Royal Navy Destroyer, HMS Foxman, cuts through the Mediterranean Sea, making its way to Al-Marsa al-Qabir, Algeria. Well, currently, that's Marse El-Kibir, French Algeria. See, for nearly a century, the French have considered this North African region just across the Mediterranean, more than a simple colony within its vast worldwide empire.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Rather, it's held to be an integral part of France itself. French Algeria is home to the French Foreign Legion, and right now the bulk of the mighty French Navy, now lying an anchor in the harbor of Maus et cabal. And it's the fleet's presence in this French Algerian harbor that brings us to Cedric Collins' mission, a mission that the trim, calm captain with a sense of discipline that exudes from his angular serious face
Starting point is 00:02:03 is very much not looking forward to. It's now around 9 a.m. The Foxhound is entering, Merce Elkabir's waters. Cedric sends word to the French Navy's highest-ranking officer here, Vice Admiral Marcel Boulon-Jeansoul, asking for an audience. The French Vice Admiral knows Cedric fairly well from his days as British naval attaché in Paris, but as a man of propriety,
Starting point is 00:02:30 he won't receive an officer at such a significantly lower rank than himself. That said, the Vice Admiral won't leave. the request unanswered either. Abort his flagship, the dumb cap. He sends his flag aide, Lieutenant Bernal Du Théille, speak with the British captain instead. Yet another old friend of Cedric's, yes, also from those same bygone days in Paris. Lieutenant Duféille is quickly drawn into the discussion. But this visit is a far cry from reminiscing on old memories.
Starting point is 00:03:02 As they talk, Cedric fulfills this mission that he hates so very much. delivering an austere ultimatum. Here's the deal. The British government is deeply concerned about the French Navy in the wake of the new French government, the Vichy regime, signing an armistice with Nazi Germany last month.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Although the Vichy regime is led by the great war hero, Marshal Philippe Pettin, it only exists at the pleasure and in the shadow of Adolf Hitler's Third Reich. And given Adolf's track record of broken diplomatic promises,
Starting point is 00:03:37 British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and other British government leaders don't trust the Nazis won't use the French fleet to attack the United Kingdom. Thus, Cedric is now presenting his old friend with a message for Vice Admiral Marcel Buno-Ginsoul from Royal Navy Vice Admiral, Sir James Somerville. It's written as kindly as possible,
Starting point is 00:03:58 but that doesn't change the fact that it's a brutally hard message. The French fleet must join the Allies, sit out the war, or be destroyed. It reads, in part, to Admiral Jean-Soul it is impossible for us your comrades up to now to allow your fine ships
Starting point is 00:04:16 to fall into the power of the German or Italian enemy we are determined to fight on until the end and if we win as we think we shall we shall never forget that France was our ally that our interests are the same as hers
Starting point is 00:04:34 and that our common enemy is Germany Should we conquer, we solemnly declare that we shall restore the greatness and territory of France. For this purpose, we must make sure that the best ships of the French Navy are not used against us by the common foe. In these circumstances, His Majesty's government have instructed me to demand that the French fleet now at Mears El-Kibir and Oran shall act in accordance with one of the following alternatives. The message then offers four alternatives. One, join the fight against the Germans and Italians. Two, sail for British ports to sit out the war. Three, sail for the West Indies to sit out the war. Or four, sink his own fleet. And if the Frenchman
Starting point is 00:05:29 doesn't choose one of these options immediately, then the British Vice Admiral clarifies, I have the orders from His Majesty's government to use whatever force may be necessary to prevent your ships from falling into German or Italian hands. Translation, the Royal Navy will attack and destroy his fleet. Today. Good God. With the gravity of the situation sinking in, Vice Admiral Marcel Bono-Gensoul tries to contact Vichy France's Admiral of the fleet,
Starting point is 00:06:03 Francois d'Alan. No dice, but he gets Francois's subordinate, who, understanding only that the British are demanding surrender, conveys that French ships in the Mediterranean will rally to his support. Meanwhile, propriety is out the window. For the next few hours, he and Captain Cedric Holland have a long talk aboard the Dunkirk. But all the Vice Admiral's assurances that his fleet was effectively being demilitarized already
Starting point is 00:06:30 and would never fall into German hands or for not. The sun is setting. It's too late. Originally selling from Gibraltar, a strike force from Vice Admiral Sir James Somerville's 27 vessel Force H begins its attack on French vessels in Marse El Cabier's harbor around 6 p.m. His flagship, Battlecruiser HMS Hood, along with the battleships, HMS Resolution and HMS Valiant, unleashed their deadly guns. The destruction of French ships in life is nothing short of catastrophic. A magazine on the French battleship, Bratagne, explodes.
Starting point is 00:07:10 She capsizes within minutes, taking 977 Frenchmen to their watery graves. Vice Admiral Marcel Bruno Jean-Soul's great flagship, the battleship Duncern, suffers four hard hits and is disabled. She runs aground. Another battleship, the Provence and the destroyer, Mogadour, are also heavily damaged and soon beached near the coast. All of this and amnui. near 10 minutes. When the British guns fall silent, the French battleship, Stasbouf,
Starting point is 00:07:41 and five destroyers swiftly set sail to escape the harbor. Other French warships joined them. But as much as Sir James Somerville might want to let them go, he can't allow that. With a lump in his throat, he orders aircraft from the carrier HMS Ark Royal, pursue the fleeing French warships. The British attack from the air continues until the last one. rays of light disappear on the western horizon. Welcome to history that doesn't suck. I'm your professor, Greg Jackson, and I'd like to tell you a story. When all is said and done, Britain's July 3rd, 1940 attack on the French fleet at Merce
Starting point is 00:08:50 El-Kibirut and neighboring Oron and French Algeria left 1,299 Frenchmen dead. Nor is that the sum total of Britain's move against the French Navy. That same day, French warships in the English harborships in the English harborses. of Plymouth and Portsmouth were seized. Two died as a result of the British seizing the French submarine, Searle-Koof, one British and one French. Cool-headed naval officers on both sides managed to keep the neutralization of French ships bloodless
Starting point is 00:09:20 in the British-controlled harbor of Alexandria, Egypt. But later that week, July 8th, the British do serious damage to the French battleship, Lichlou, at Dakar and French West Africa, or, as you and I know it, cynical. The fringe are devastated. A long-time Anglophobe, Admiral of the fleet of Francois D'Alan immediately orders his crippled navy to attack British warships and seize British merchant ships. Vichy France's head of state, Marshal Philippe-Pittain, revokes those orders, but, oh, is the relationship damaged?
Starting point is 00:09:53 Even the leader of the Free French, Charles de Gaulle, or Anglicized as Charles de Gaul, now in exile in London, struggles hard to swallow this bitter pill. yet he does. He'll continue to work with the British, and two decades later, when he motions have subsided a bit, the Frenchman will even say that he understands. That, where he and Winston Churchill's shoes, fighting for his nation's long-shot survival
Starting point is 00:10:19 in a war that appeared all but over as Nazi Germany held a conquered continent, he'd have done the same thing. I realize I nodded to this British attack back in episode 189, but it bore an in-depth telling today, The reason is that today's tale requires understanding the complications of France's position as a defeated British ally turned Nazi collaborating regime that nonetheless still has a massive colonial empire, an empire that includes the very place where the Americans are going to take
Starting point is 00:10:52 their first major swing at the Nazi empire, North Africa. To capture all the intricacies at play here, we'll begin with a basic primer in France's colonization of North Africa, which includes moving from west to east, Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia. We'll also note Italian colonization in Libya and British control in Egypt. With this full context, we'll be on solid ground to follow why Benito Mussolini has a presence in North Africa, how he botches it so badly that the soon-to-be infamous Desert Fox,
Starting point is 00:11:26 Avivin, or Irwin Rommel, and his Africa Corps have to come bail him out, and how the Allies Pinser movement, consisting of British forces coming from Egypt and mostly American forces landing on, then advancing from French North Africa, will ultimately put the squeeze on the axis. All that said, ready to see our boy Dwight D. Eisenhower lead the amphibious landing, code-named Operation Torch, and Vichy-administered French North Africa, then team up with his fellow tank lover, George Patton, to battle their way east across these doomed. strewn and arid lands as Bernard Montgomery leads his British and Commonwealth forces west in a combined attack on the axis? Excellent. They let us begin with France's first colonial step in North Africa, taken in the region more than a century before World War II. Rewind. In the summer of 1830, Francis deeply unpopular King Charles X, makes an odd play to stave off revolution. He sends his military across the Mediterranean to conquer the nominally
Starting point is 00:12:36 Ottoman-controlled North African city of Algiers. The king and his prime minister, Jewell de Polignac, think this will help the regime's popularity. They even framed the invasion as a matter of national honor, pointing to an incident three years earlier in which the city's ruler, the day, slapped the French consul with a fly-whisk during a dispute over a nearly three-decade-old debt, one taken out by a French revolutionary government that the restored French king has zero intent of pain. Well, the ploy fails. The French people want representation, not conquest. But even as France's second, or rather July revolution, rips up the cobblestones of Paris and sweeps Charles X out to usher the liberal-minded citizen king Louis-Philippe in,
Starting point is 00:13:23 the 37,000 strong French force sent to Algeria's shores have already done. the job. As of July 1830, France, not the Ottoman Empire, rules Algiers. This French foothold in North Africa only grows. In a little less than two decades, France takes the whole of Algeria. As France's third revolution, the Revolution of 1848, gives rise to the Second Republic, this new government also designates Algeria's coastal regions as Departement, or Departments. This means that, at least on paper, Algeria isn't a colony anymore. It's an integral part of France, known as French Algeria. Citizens here vote and send representatives to the French legislature in Paris.
Starting point is 00:14:14 But wait. Who gets to be a citizen? European settlers, known as Pierre Noir, certainly are, but most others, predominantly Muslims and Jews, are not. Well, until 1870, that is. as Napoleon the Third's Second Empire falls and the Third Republic begins. I know, the French change governments a lot, but this Third Republic is it for a while, I promise. The Chmémyr decree grants Algerian Jews citizenship. But just them, not Algerian Muslims.
Starting point is 00:14:45 The Arabs and Berbers in these Departement, who want to vote, or rather vote fully, will have to renounce their status under Islamic law. Effectively, this means abandoning their faith. Their identity. Few will. French rule also spreads east and west from French Algeria. To the east, the French use a Tunisian tribe raiding over the border as pretext to arrest Tunisia from Ottoman rule in 1881. It's made a protectorate and skipping past the politics of the Africa-dividing Berlin Conference of 1884 that we covered in episode 128, as well as the
Starting point is 00:15:21 hard diplomacy of the Algeciras conference in 1906 that we touched on in episode 116, that same fate befalls Morocco to French Algeria's west. The Sultanate becomes a French protectorate in 1912. Now, France isn't the only colonial power in North Africa. To the east of Tunisia, Italy takes Libya in 1911, as we saw in episode 183's tale of the rise of Italy's fascist dictator Benito Mussolini. At the same time, Britain rules in Egypt. The exact legal status of Britain's dominance here shifts over the years, but de facto rule began in 1882, and despite nominal independence in 1992, that will continue until 1952. Thus, by the time Adolf Hitler rises to power, the whole of North Africa is under European rule, and the entire western half is under French
Starting point is 00:16:13 rule. Indeed, Morocco, Tunisia, and especially Algeria, comprise a treasured region in the global French empire, an empire that stretches from the Caribbean, across much of the African continent, Southeast Asia's Indo-Chinese peninsula and beyond. And that vast empire matters in the context of World War II. It raises important questions as the Nazi war machine blitz-cribes into France in May 1940, and as the French government flees, leaving the perfectly timed clump of the Wehrmacht's goose-stepping boots to echo through the almost empty streets of the capital that June, even if European or metropolitan France has fallen,
Starting point is 00:16:55 could the French Empire carry the torch? Could the French government, its virtually untouched and fourth largest in the world navy in what remains of its army, all evacuate to French Algeria, set up a new capital, and, with the help of colonial subjects, like the half a million who fought for Le Repubique during the First World War,
Starting point is 00:17:17 continue the fight. Britain wishes France would. But this would require a level of global vision and risk tolerance far beyond current French leadership. Instead, the Third Republic collapses and a new government, led by great war hero, Marshal Philippe Petin, signs an armistice. If you remember episode 188's opening, you know what that armistice entails. But broadly, I'll remind you that, it allows the Nazis to occupy northern and Atlantic coastal France. It makes POWs of the whole French army in Europe, and it permits Philippe-Petain to set up a government in the ski town of
Starting point is 00:17:55 Vichy to administer metropolitan France's unoccupied zone-libe or free zone, as well as administer the global French Empire. And I say administer quite intentionally. Per the armistice, Vichy survives only at Germany's sufferance. That's why, embattled, lonely Britain takes such extreme action to neutralize the French Navy, despite the armistist saying that it's out of the war. And this is why Adolf Hitler can focus his attention elsewhere. Indeed, Vichy's collaboration means Adolf doesn't have to worry about France fighting on from the colonies, be that nearby North Africa or elsewhere. And setting Charles de Gaul and the free French aside, the armistice is pretty successful. But the Fuhr does have one worry down to North Africa, his errant ally, Italian dictator Benito Mussolini.
Starting point is 00:18:48 As we learned in episode 183, Benito's ideology, fascism, is an extreme nationalism that, among other things, glories an empire. It's with this line of thinking that Benito, or El Ducche aspires to make his modern fascist Italy into a new Roman empire. And in his fascist mind, that means his Roman empire needs to conquer the same Mediterranean territory that the historical Roman Empire of antiquity held. that includes coasts of the Middle East and North Africa. But perhaps miffed that Adolf kept him in the dark as Germany gobbled up bits, pieces, then finally large swaths of continental Europe, Il Ducche doesn't give the furor much of a heads up before sending his armies forth. And that's a problem for Adolf, because it soon becomes apparent that his fascist ally
Starting point is 00:19:41 is more an ideas guy who isn't actually very good at this whole empire building thing. In October, 1940, Benito informs Adolf of the impending invasion. Fier, we are on the march. Victorious Italian troops cross the Greco-Albanian frontier at dawn today. But the attack goes badly. Downright awful. German control of the Balkans and the crucial oil fields of Axis-Allied Romania are at stake. Basically, the Italian army falls so flat on its face that Adolf has no choice but to absorb the distraction
Starting point is 00:20:16 of sending the Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe to bail out Yilducci. Germany takes Greece by May of 1941, but only after diverting forces that Adolf would have preferred to use elsewhere. And this isn't even Benito's only screw-up. Around the same time as the Greek disaster, in September, 1940, Italian forces march east from their North African colony of Libya and into British-controlled Egypt. Side note, of course, they march east. To the west is French North Africa, and like Germany, Italy has an armistice with France as well. The Italian attack against Egypt threatens to open a path to rich oil fields in the Middle East,
Starting point is 00:20:55 and of course seafaring Britain's great treasure, the Suez Canal. But as in Greece, Italian forces prove less than capable here. In fact, the Italians are losing ground. British forces not only push the Italian invasion back, but take much of eastern Libya, a region known as Sirenayaka. Adolf's frustrated. Seriously, with a friend like Benito, who needs enemies? El Ducier is proving more of a hindrance than a help,
Starting point is 00:21:23 as he not only fails to shore up Germany's southern flank, but needs Nazi forces to fight his battles too. And it's not like the furor isn't busy. As we know from episode 188, the Battle of Britain might be settled, but the Luftwaffe isn't done with its bombing efforts. And as we know from the last episode, the Wehrmacht is gearing up for its secret invasion of the USSR, Operation Barbarossa.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Meanwhile, German U-boats are busy seeking Allied ships in the Battle of the Atlantic. All that to say, the Nazi war machine has a lot going on, and Adolf has no time for Benito's shenanigans. So, he sends one of his most capable men to clean up Ilduchet's mess in North Africa. Johannes Erwin Rommel, or Anglicized, Irwin Rommel. On one level, Irwin is a surprising choice. I mean, this clever, charismatic and short, General de Panzotrupa, with a hard-lined face, made his name humiliating Italians in World War I. Back in the fall of 1917, in the eastern Italian Alps, at Caporetto,
Starting point is 00:22:30 then-Lutin Erwin Rommel led a few companies in seizing Mount Matayor, while taking 9,000 Italian prisoners and suffering a total German loss of six dead and 30 wounded. Uff. In Italian, Caparetto still means a devastating loss, a complete disaster. I guess the Italians will just have to swallow their pride and hope he does the same to their now common enemy, the British. In February, 1941, the first elements of Irwin Rommel's newly created Africa Corps, whose ranks will soon swell to 30,000 men stream into Libya to reinforce the reeling Italians.
Starting point is 00:23:07 This combined force quickly pushes back the British soldiers, a.k.a. the Tommies, and lays siege to Tobruk, a British captured deep water port near Libya's eastern border with Egypt. The determined rats of Tobruk, the garrison made up of mostly Australians, hold their position for 231 days until the 8th Army comes to relieve them. Then it's back and forth once more. The Brits push as far west as Ella Gala, then are forced back to Tobruk again. And then it's into Egypt once more, where the British and Commonwealth forces. hold back Irwin Rommel, or rather the Desert Fox, as he's now known, at the first battle of El Alamein in July, 1942.
Starting point is 00:23:51 If it feels like you're watching a tennis match, you're not alone. The campaign in North Africa is colloquially known as the Ding Dong War. This is due, in no small part, to the difficulty of maintaining supply lines in the harsh and desolate climes of the desert, which makes being pushed back even a little necessitate falling back a whole lot more. as the Brits and the Germans chase each other back and forth across Italian Libya and British held Egypt, both sides littered North Africa's coast and Sahara Desert, with miles of barbed wire tumbleweeds, minefields, burned out vehicles, and endless papers. Then, in August, 1942, shrewd, sharp-faced Bernard Monty Montgomery, takes command of the British 8th Army.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Monty is the victor of the September battle at Alam al-Halfa in Egypt and a very very very very important. slow and steady wins the race type of commander. And he does seem to be on to something. After all, Monty is beating back the Desert Fox's advances. Indeed, his British 7th Armored Division, aka the Desert Rats, are well dug in and ready for the next fight as the second battle of El Alamein begins. It's about 4 o'clock in the evening, October 28, 1942.
Starting point is 00:25:11 We're in El Alamein. on the northern Mediterranean coastline of Egypt, where the 29-year-old Londoner Reginald Lewis Crimp is lying in a sandy desert slit trench. A part of the British 7th Armored Division's 2nd Battalion Riflecate, Reginald's company is situated on what he describes as a sort of long, straggling island of soft sound a few feet higher than the flat,
Starting point is 00:25:35 firmer desert, which stretches off to a distant horizon, on every side. With their wounded in the safer, deeper, trenches that the battalion has appropriated from Germans who once held this position, Reginald lies in this sand, dug as best as he can, into this slit trench that offers him little protection from German artillery or the elements. As the sun beats down, he sweats into his army-regulated helmet and prays that the Germans don't notice or hit him. From his position, based down in the sand, lying dago, as he puts it, Reginald sees smoldering, abandoned, medium-hansertangelo.
Starting point is 00:26:12 on three sides of his quote-unquote island. But he's got little time to observe this. Other tanks are quickly approaching. The Brits 57-millimeter anti-tank cannons, aka six-pounders, that so bravely repelled the German panzers' advance this morning, are slowing down. Clearly, they're running low on ammunition. Then finally, they fall silent altogether.
Starting point is 00:26:36 As they do, the panzers lurch forward. They're soon only 200 yards out. Then a hundred yards. Nevertheless, the company holds its position. But then, the Brits' heavy artillery, the 25-Pambers, open fire. Reginald breathes a sigh of relief, as these massive shells scream and pounce forcing the German armor to withdraw. All except for one answer, that is.
Starting point is 00:27:03 This lone, daring tank steadily advanced spraying machine gun fire to clear its path. Reaching a mere 50 yards at distance from Reginald, The Panzer pauses. It should be a sitting duck, but the Brits' anti-tank guns are completely out of ammo. This bold German tank crew's gamble is paid off, and apparently it's paying off at Reginal's expense. Again, creeping forward,
Starting point is 00:27:28 this German monster spits machine gun fire as it comes right up to the British perimeter. The men there lie low, their rifles, about as useless as spears, but that doesn't stop them from taking in. The Panzer halts once more. As it does, the Germans inside swing the guns around. An enormous blast explodes from its cannon, painfully jolting Reginald's tin half. But thankfully, that's the only thing Reginald feels.
Starting point is 00:27:56 It seems the Panzer has somehow missed. Another round flies, likewise failing to find its mark. Processing this, the London-born soldier questions, maybe he can't sink his barrel onto a low enough plane. Nonetheless, Reginald shifts nervously in sand, anxiously wondering if this next one will end his life. Suddenly, one of the British anti-tank operators, or an AT chap, as they're known, crawls out of a trench and sprints through the flying bullets and sand toward one of the north-facing six-pound of British guns. Reginald is aghast. Surely, this is a suicide mission. But the brave AT soldier continues on, removing the shell already in the gun.
Starting point is 00:28:39 a breach of the wrong-facing gun, after which, as Reginald tells us, he calmly puts the shell in his own gun, takes steady aim, and fires. Immediately, there's an explosion from the panzer, whether the Jerry gun had fired again
Starting point is 00:28:56 or the six-pounder found its mark. You can't tell, but the machine gun cuts out and the tank stays still, a strand of smoke issues from the turret, and minutes later, it starts to blaze. Thanks to this,
Starting point is 00:29:09 Daring AT Chapp, Reginald's entire brigade is saved. The second battle of El Alamein is a resounding Allied victory. Well, British victory, though their ranks include five Americans. After British forces picked their way through Field Marshal Irwin-Romwell's minefields, with millions of landmines protecting the access defensive position, areas that become known as Gardens of the Devil, the Desert Fox orders a retreat westward to avoid the complete destruction of his Panzer divisions. Had the battle gone the Germans way, it's possible that an Einzatzköppen, that is a mobile killing squad,
Starting point is 00:29:51 might have been sent to attack the Jewish population in North Africa and the British mandate for Palestine. We don't know to what extent Erwin Rommel would have been involved. His loyalty to Germany is clear, while the depth of his adherence to Nazism is something historians will debate until the end of time. But whatever the desert fox's views, his loss thankfully means that these extermination plans, never have a chance to come to fruition. The victory re-energizes the beleaguered British, not least because it was against such an intimidating foe. Just three months earlier, in Cairo, Egypt, Churchill had exclaimed,
Starting point is 00:30:28 "'Rommel, rummel, rummel, what else matters but beating him?' But winning a war, as we know, is far easier said than done, especially since desert warfare presents serious challenges to supply lines. soldiers and tanks both need fuel, and the Sahara doesn't have much to offer in an entire army, let alone too. Soldiers learn to subsist almost entirely on canned foods. Water and ammunition are both precious. The only two plentiful things are, one, the flies, which one Scottish officer describes as... Appalling. One couldn't raise a piece of bread to mouth without it becoming covered in flies. And two, the sand. After all, it's coarse and rough and irritated.
Starting point is 00:31:11 and it gets everywhere. Sand gets in weapons, food, shoes, engines, you name it. It's inescapable. Meanwhile, troops are also worried about sunstroke and diseases like dysentery. In short, it's no picnic out here. And yet, Monty's quote-unquote rats and other soldiers are somehow succeeding. But sweet as this victory at the second battle of El Alamein is, the fight in North Africa is far from over.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Quote Winston Churchill amid the battle's aftermath. This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is perhaps the end of the beginning. As we heard about in the previous episode, the big three, that is, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt, and Soviet General Secretary and dictator Joseph Stalin,
Starting point is 00:32:17 have spent much of 1942 talking about opening a second front against the Nazis. And by late summer, they've decided to make that front a combined Anglo-American attack in North Africa. With the British out of Egypt, hitting from the east, and a mostly American force striking from the west, this pincer-like strike
Starting point is 00:32:34 on the axis in North Africa should pay off in three ways. First, it will force the axis out of the region and open up the dangerous metatrainian for more shipping. Second, Allied control of North Africa should pave the way for boots on the ground in continental Europe, likely via Italy.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And third, this action in the west ought to hamper Nazi efforts against the Soviets in the East. Leading the invasion force that will strike the Desert Fox and his Africa Corps from the West is a good friend of ours from the last episode. The U.S. Commanding General of the European Theater, now named Commander-in-Chief of the Allied forces in North Africa, Dwight D. Eisenhower. Under his command are 107,000 mostly American troops, making this invasion the first major American engagement in the Western Theater of World War II.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And their first step is an amphibious landing, codenamed Operation Torch. His forces will make landfall at three points. One along the Atlantic coast at Casablanca and the French Protector of Morocco, and two others from within the Mediterranean at Oran and Algiers in French Algeria. Yes, they're landing in French North Africa. And what of the French? Though not occupied by the Germans, French North Africa is, as we know, in the hands of the Nazi collaborationist Vichy French government.
Starting point is 00:33:55 So how will their 125,000 troops in North Africa respond? Will these Frenchmen, allies of the British and Americans in the last world war, and engaged in the fight against Nazism until their government capitulated two years ago? Fight back? Will they tow the Vichy line? Or will they welcome the allies as their brothers in arms, finally liberating them so they can fight to regain their homeland, like Charles de Gaulle's free French.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Hard to say, but given the painful memories of the Royal Navy's most recent and deadly visit with the French Navy, and the value in showing that the Americans are truly committed to the war at this point, perhaps it's best that the Yanks, not the Brits, be the first ones to knock on France's North African door. Yeah, good call. Meanwhile, a pamphlet distributed to the American troops about to participate in Operation Torch reflects allied hopes of a warm reception.
Starting point is 00:34:49 to quote it in part, it is the wish of the president that the first blow in this assault should be primarily American. We have come from afar to hit the common enemy, and we are determined to do our fullest share to liberate the victims of oppression. You'll be landing on the shores of a country
Starting point is 00:35:07 whose people are our traditional friends. We are not after the conquest of territory, but are out to destroy our enemy. Millions of Frenchmen are going to see the point, no matter what their Nazi-fied country. government tries to tell them. Close quote. With these optimistic words ringing in their ears,
Starting point is 00:35:26 the American troops board their 350 warships and 500 transports, then sail for North Africa. They sail with a full ability to read Vichy French naval codes, thanks in part to Elizabeth or Betty Pack slash Thorpe. Now a spy for British intelligence codenamed Cynthia, the stunning and charming woman, seduced the French press attach at the Washington, D.C. Embassy at some point earlier in this same year,
Starting point is 00:35:52 and convinced him to help her steal his government's code books so they could be copied. And so, cutting through the Atlantic, fully capable of understanding the French Navy's messages, the Americans begin their Operation Torch landing on the French North African coast in the early morning hours of November 8, 1942. But how will the Yanks actually be received?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Well, let's join the Western Task Force at Casablanca and find out. It's around 2.30 in the morning, November 9, 1942. Second Lieutenant Edward W. Wellman of the 204th Military Police Company is aboard the second of four landing craft bound for Beach Yellow, or Fidela, just to the north of Casablanca on the coast of French Morocco. The 113 men on these four boats have been tasked with bringing order out of the chaos on the beaches. The salty spray gets in the men's eyes as they motor toward the appointed beach. an oil tank fire on the shore.
Starting point is 00:36:53 But between the challenges of spin drift and the dark, the transports are actually about 15 miles off course. They're heading right toward Casablanca Harbor, right where the French fleet lies at anchor. That guiding beacon they've been following is actually the French light cruiser, Cremontier, burning brightly after being hit by American naval fire. Luckily, the men spot what they think is a U.S. destroyer.
Starting point is 00:37:18 The first two landing crafts draw near. crafts draw near, and Edward watches as a military policeman on the leadboat. Perhaps company commander Captain William H. Sutton tries to get the attention of someone on board. The second lieutenant hears a yell in return, but he doesn't understand what's being said. Maybe it's the loud waves? The MP hollers. We are American. The overture is met by a burst of machine gun fire. Okay, definitely not an American ship. And definitely not friendly Frenchmen. Only 15 yards away from the guns, Edward watches its shock and horror as bullets gripped through the officer, killing him instantly. Realizing the futility of resisting a warship's fire from a wooden landing craft, the men know they must surrender to survive.
Starting point is 00:38:04 But even as the soldiers in the first boat stand with their hands raised, some waving their torn undershirts, the unnamed French vessel opens fire again, this time with three-inch shells. The second lieutenant looks around and sees, as he'll later recall, that, The air was full of metal. Suddenly, the coxswain, who has been desperately, madly zigzagging the boat away from the attacking French warship, has his leg blown on. Another officer rises to take the wheel, but he too takes a bullet to the leg. The wooden boat is slowly becoming little more than shrapnel, as a massive splinter flies into Edward's foot, reportedly taking the front of his boot and two toes. Still, he scrambles to the wheel, just as a shell hits the motor, coating the bowing the bowing the bow.
Starting point is 00:38:50 barely still floating boat and burning gasoline. There's nothing more to do. Edward orders his men into the water. Edward Wellman and the survivors of this fraught action amid the Operation Torch amphibious landing are quickly fished out of the water and taken prisoner. Meanwhile, the few who managed to swim through the oily waters to shore
Starting point is 00:39:14 are pounced on by Moroccan police until unnamed French civilians chased the officers away, then use their own coats to wrap the dripping, freezing Americans. Oh, right there, you can see the conflict of Vichy and real French sympathies playing out on the beach. It's not clear what happens to this group of GIs, but at least they're not among the upwards of 30 men killed in the harbor today. And speaking of Vichy, the leader of this collaborationist regime, the great war hero, Marshal Felipe deen, stands by the French Navy's response. He makes no apologies in a telegram to President Franklin Roosevelt.
Starting point is 00:39:52 France and her honor are at stake. We are attacked. We shall defend ourselves. And so they do. The Vichy French fight fiercely at nearly every landing site. They're successful in part, this historian Rick Atkinson writes, because they, quote,
Starting point is 00:40:11 intended not just to fight, but to fight with passion. Close quote. They're also aided by unpredictable tides and American inexperience. Boats are overturned. Men drown. Critical supplies are left on ships.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Guns arrive without ammunition. Truly, some of these landings are, to use a soon-to-emerge military term, Fubar. Commander-in-Chief Dwight D. Eisenhower and Deputy Commander, Major General Mark W. Clark, are desperate to find a French commander who can stand down their Nazi-aligned Vichy countrymen. With neither Winston Churchill nor FDR being fond of Charles de Gaul, Ike turns to General Henri Girol. Henri, or Henry, is promising, but he arrives at Gibraltar from France, with a penchant for speaking in the third
Starting point is 00:40:58 person, in a briefcase full of his own plans for defeating Germany. He believes he'll be the Supreme Allied Commander in North Africa. After hours of unproductive conversation with Ike and others, the Frenchman departs, stating, in the third person, naturally, Girot will be a spectator in this affair. Aik is not heartbroken, not after that waste of a breath of a conversation. In fact, he found Henri Giroz so difficult the cans and darkly jokes that they should arrange, quote, a little airplane accident, close quote, for the Frenchman. Again, he's kidding, mostly kidding.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Anyhow, on to option two, a man in Algiers purely by coincidence on a visit to his sixth son, Vichy's admiral of the fleet, Jean-Louis-Gazier-François-Dallon. Yes, we met this admiral amid and after the British attack. at Mercer-Ek-Kabir. The naval officer has no love for the Brits, but with the Allies closing in, he's willing to play ball now. And that's just what Ike needs,
Starting point is 00:42:04 a ball player. The American commander desperately wants to end French opposition so he can get on with marching toward the French protector of Tunisia to hit Erwin Rommel's forces, already contending with the British out of Egypt. So, in the name of pragmatism,
Starting point is 00:42:19 Ike strikes a deal with the Vichie Admiral on November 22nd. Francois Darlant orders a ceasefire, and in return is recognized as the supreme French authority in French North and West Africa, under the title High Commissioner. The world is shocked and dismayed by this arrangement, or the Darlane deal, as it comes to be known. See, Francois D'Alan is a notoriously shameless Nazi collaborator. In France, he has a hand in mass arrests of anti-Vichy citizens and the persecution of French Jews. To make matters worse, he also directly provided Erwin Rommel's troops with supplies. Now in Africa, the Admiral continues to uphold anti-Semitic laws and imprisons many who aided the Allied invasion.
Starting point is 00:43:05 To most, he's a willing Nazi collaborator. An opportunist at best, and the circumstances of this flip to the Allies doesn't lessen that image. Summarizing the sentiments of many among continental government leaders in exile in London, American journalist Edward R. Murrow asks, What the hell is this all about? Are we fighting Nazis or sleeping with them? Winston Churchill and Franklin Roosevelt feel a sense of embarrassment, though both support Ike's strategic play,
Starting point is 00:43:35 calling the move justified by the stress of battle. But the Nazi collaborator doesn't get to enjoy his position as high commissioner for long. On December 24th, an Algerian-born Frenchman, that is, a pi noir, 20-year-old anti-vici, Ferdinand Bonnier de la Chappelle puts two bullets in François Dallon, one in the head and one in the chest. I can't say the allied leaders are too upset. A diplomat bursts into Deputy Commander Mark Clark's office exclaiming,
Starting point is 00:44:05 They shot the little son of a bitch. Mark sees Francois's death, quote, like the lancing of a troublesome oil. Close quote. Well then. As for Supreme Commander Dwight Eisenhower, he simply pivots back to Henri Girol, making him the new High Commissioner. Ike then returns his energy to the next goal in this North African invasion,
Starting point is 00:44:28 defeating Erwin Rommel's Nazi forces. And for that, as 1942 turns into 1943, it's time to head farther east, toward Nazi-held territory, in the French protector of Tunisia. It's just before 2.45 p.m., February 15, 1943. We're at a brand-new American M-4-Schermenstein. approaching the town of Sidi Bouzine in western French Tunisia. 29-year-old lieutenant colonel James D. Alger is leading a battalion of wet behind the ears
Starting point is 00:45:01 American tank crews on a counterattack, chasing Nazi soldiers back toward town. Even though the M-4s are new, Tunisian dust and sand have already worked their way into every crevice, and all five men inside James's tank, steeped. Yes, terribly uncomfortable. Nonetheless, the focused battalion commander keeps a vigilant. an eye out for anything suspicious. So far, he sees little more than local Arabs, plowing. All of the sudden, James spies a flare cutting through the sky above C. Buzid. More followed. The radios into command a siding of dust plumes, indicating enemy tanks approaching on both sides
Starting point is 00:45:40 of the column. Almost immediately, brown geysers of soil and smoke rise. The result of enemy artillery slamming into the heart, sunk-cooked earth. Then, the German panzer, draw close. They begin firing their tank piercing rounds. As this destruction and death plays out, the locals, perhaps long use to living amid European encroachments, including war, go on plowing,
Starting point is 00:46:04 seemingly unbothered by the explosive tank and artillery battle happening all around them. Most of James' battalion of tanks is bombed into oblivion in an uneas. Men are trapped inside the burning vehicles, unable to escape. Cooking and
Starting point is 00:46:20 suffocating, they die within minutes. A colonel watching the plumes of smoke for miles away radios in. What does the battalion need? James replies. A moment later, his own tank is hit. Along with two other surviving crewmen, James scrambles out of the hatch and runs for his life across the desert. The trio become POWs within the next half hour and to number among the very few survivors of this otherwise almost entirely obliterated battalion. This brutal burning barrage at Sidi Bouzid marks the beginning of the Battle of Castorine Pass,
Starting point is 00:47:01 where fuzz-cheeked American GIs learn hard lessons fast. Lessons the British have long committed to memory. Indeed, even as the advancing allies muster the strength to repel Irwin Rommel's Africa Corps, their British friends take to calling the Americans our Italians. Yeah. Given how badly the Italian army has been doing, I think you get the drift. Ouch. And so, no disrespect to Ike, a tank master, as we know from the last episode, but it's clear
Starting point is 00:47:31 that the American Second Corps needs to shape up fast. And who better to whip them into shape than Ike's fellow tank expert and longtime friend, but one and known, George S. Patton. Major General George Patton, the 57-year-old, hot-headed, prone to bellowing tank evangelist, landed in Casablanca during Operation Torch, but, has been handling logistics thus far and is yet to see any real action. Frustrated, George writes home, I wish I could get out and kill someone. Okay, point taken, George, you're eager to get into the fight, which, as we know from the last
Starting point is 00:48:23 episode, is an impatience for action that Dwight Eisenhower can appreciate. Well, George's moment has come in the disastrous aftermath of Castorain. On March 6, 1943, George Patton gladly takes command of the unseasoned, undisciplined Second Corps. And a week later, he's promoted to the temporary rank of Lieutenant General. But before we go rumbling forward, let's zoom out to get the bigger picture. In mid-March, 1943, Axis powers are desperately trying to hold their defensive positions in North Africa, including southeastern Tunisia's Marath line, which runs 30 miles inland from the coast. Basically, field marshal Irwin Rommels getting pushed into a tighter and tighter area around Tunisia's northern and coastal capital of Tunis,
Starting point is 00:49:11 as the two separate Allied armies squeeze the desert Fox's forces in a pincor-like movement. On the eastern side, British General Bernard Monti Montgomery led his eighth army into Tunisia from Libya last month, intent upon forcing the Nazi Africa Corps to make its last stand in Tunis. Meanwhile, Dwight Eisenhower and his American divisions, along with his army. British Lieutenant General Kenneth Anderson's First Army, are still pushing west from French Algeria, past the mountain passes like Kasserine, and onto the Tunisian plains. As the combined Italian-German army retreats, they give up airfields, extending Allied air reach. Even better for the Anglo-American troops is the fact that surprise attacks are no more. Ultra-intelligence has broken
Starting point is 00:49:55 the Nazi enigma cryptography. Amid these developments and disruptions to access supply lines, Supreme Commander Dwight Eisenhower and his fellow Allied officers hope that their grinding in advance will soon force Erwin to surrender. But then, Irwin's suddenly out of the picture. Yes, Nazi Germany's famed Desert Fox leaves the fight. On March 9th, illness forces the field marshal to head back to Germany. German general Hans Jogan von Arning and Italian general Giovanni Messi have to carry on without him.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Back on the American side, George Patton is hard. at work. He tightens the ranks, demanding, in his jarringly falsetto voice, that all officers wear their brightly gleaming rank insignia, even though enemy snipers use them as aiming stakes to pick off officers. Crazy, but to his credit, he'll be at the battle lines alongside his men, doing the same, making himself a walking target as well. One first lieutenant, John Patterson, will later say of old blood and guts that, he's the kind of son of a bitch who'd get you killed. but he'd be there chewing on your romp when it happened. Yes, George Patton's nickname is Old Blood and Guts,
Starting point is 00:51:07 though with risky plays like that insignia bit, the men soon play on it, calling him Our Blood His Guts. It's clever, but don't mistake that for disrespect. On the contrary, soldiers hold George Patton in high regard. As Sergeant Hubert Garbage Edwards puts it, I didn't like him a bit, but I had to respect him because he was a known fighter. Yes, garbage is Hubert's nickname. He picked it up for being one of the few Americans not disgusted by the English cuisine
Starting point is 00:51:38 served on their ships en route to North Africa last year. But as great of an accomplishment as conquering English Fair is, garbage has much bigger worries as the Allies tighten the noose on their cornered Nazi foe. It's just before 3 p.m. March 23, 1943. We're crouching in the muddy Tunisian desert of El-Gutard, with Sergeant Hubert Garbage Edwards and fellow battering, all a part of the 2nd Battalion of the 17th Field Artillery in the 2nd Armored Division, aka the Hell on Wheels Division.
Starting point is 00:52:14 German fighters zoom above, their machine guns spitting, providing cover for a dozen U-87 Stuka dive bombers and advancing 50-ton panzers, happy to crush American soldiers in shallow slit trenches, if the opportunity arises. Those bullet-spitting fighters are precisely why garbage and his fellow battery operators are so low to the ground. And his one, Mr. Schmidt, BF109, comes low with strafing fire.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Garbage is hitting his limit. It's time to get bold. He shouts to his fellow battery man, Michael Neiman. Come on, Mike. Where are you going? To my Jeep. When that guy comes back, I'm going to take care of him. The sergeant sprints to the 50-caliber machine gun mounted on a nearby jeep.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Mike is hot on his heels, ready to help with belts of ammunition. Garbage swings the gun around, toward the sound of the approaching Messerschmitt as the fighter comes in for another round of straf and fire. Garbage bellows. He's on his way again. Mike answers, give him hell, give him hell! And that he does. Garbage fires armor-piercing rounds directly into the plane's engine. The Nazi aircraft bursts into flames, and garbage watches as it crashes, blazing into the ground. The Battle of El-Gatarrar is fought less than a month, after George Patton takes command of the Second Corps, and it's a jaunty feather in his cap. By the battle's end in April, it's a morale-boosting American victory,
Starting point is 00:53:43 one that brings a swift end to those British-made comparisons between Americans and Italians. The final two months of the Tunisia campaign are marked by a series of tank battles and scrappy fights for individual hills, fights that continue to squeeze the Germans into a smaller and smaller space. The writing is on the wall. So much so, the George Hans' command of the Second Corps to General Omar Bradley, which the tank genius needs to do so he can focus on preparations for the now certain invasion of Sicily. And on May 7, 1943, Omar leads the Second Corps in capturing the bombed-out port city of Buzert, Tunisia. At the same time, British forces are entering Tunis. Ah, that means the pincer has now closed. The Nazis realize that there's nothing to be done now,
Starting point is 00:54:30 except hope that the terms of surrender are generous. It's May 12, 1943. We're riding into the Africa Corps encampment at Saint-Marie duet, Tunisia, with two British generals, 5th Corps commander, Charles Alphrey, and 4th Indian Division Commander, Francis Tuker. They're here, of course, to receive this Nazi army's surrender. Francis and Charles exit their vehicle,
Starting point is 00:55:00 Fuelling the weight of hundreds of Axis eyes following them, the two Brits walk through the ravine hitting camp and are soon face to face with their counterparts. Nazi generals, Hans-Huyken von Arnum and Hans Kramm. The two parties stand in jarring contrast. The Brits are dressed in dusty boots and worn-out trousers. Francis is in a simple pullover, exactly the sort of look you'd expect for men engaged in hard desert fighting.
Starting point is 00:55:27 But opposite of them, the two Germans are dressed to the nines. Both are in long-wasted tunics and polished writing boots, and the contrast only grows as they start to talk. With a touch of dry British humor and mockery, Francis Tuker introduces himself with a German flair as General Fon Tuka. Hmm. Okay, Tuka played this game. Hans Juergen von Annam answers,
Starting point is 00:55:52 but not in English despite speaking the language quite well. Instead, he uses French, explaining through an interpreter that, I cannot alter Hitler's orders by surrendering all remaining forces in North Africa. Well, if that's the Nazi's final reply, Charles Alphrey has a blunt retort. He tells the Nazi leaders that if that's the situation, then we'll blow you off the map. He then gives the English-speaking but unwilling German general 15 minutes to prepare to leave as a prisoner, after surrendering all-person weapons as well, naturally. Well, that does change things a bit.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Hans Juergen rages, throwing a small tantrum as he flings his automatic Walthyrt P-38 handgun onto the table. Francis responds by calmly demanding the Nazi's pocket knife, too. The well-dressed German goes beat rag as he throws it on the table. And with that, the surrender moves forward. Allied soldiers are over the moon. We get a taste of that joy in 24-year-old enlisted American soldier, Wallace Irwin Jr.'s snarky poem bidding the Nazis farewell, which he writes as the surrender goes into effect the next day, May 13, 1943. J. von Arnhem wore an iron-plated monocle, but he could not
Starting point is 00:57:15 see behind him. Now, it wasn't that ironical? He fought a rear-guard action, and he did it very bitterly, with booby traps and teller mines and gallant sons of Italy. Three days later, May 16th, General Hans Jokin von Arnhem arrives in London. Church Bell Sound welcoming the Nazi prisoner of war into the British capital. Allied victory in North Africa is sealed. This axis surrender in North Africa is huge. I really can't overstate this. I mean, after the fall of France,
Starting point is 00:57:48 Adolf Hitler had thought his supreme victory was but a matter of time. And that wasn't an unfair take. Meaning the world over, like Vichy French collaborators, thought the same. But now, for the first time ever, the Nazis have lost a major campaign and massive stretch of territory to say nothing of the loss of men. It combined 230,000 Germans and Italians are taken as prisoners of war. Some troops and equipment escape this fate, such as Erwin Rommel, of course, who was already back in the fatherland. But on the whole, this is nothing less than an allied triumph and an axis catastrophe.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And while it's the British commanders, not the Americans, who accept the official Nazi surrender, Uncle Sam's boys are justifiably proud. Between Landian and French North Africa in November in 1942, and this sweet victory in May, 1943, they've really come into their own. Green as grass American GIs have transformed into seasoned veterans. They've learned to hate Germans with a passion. This is no longer someone else's war. It's theirs just as much. And now, armed with that experience, confidence, and sense of ownership, it's time to take this fight into Europe itself. And the plan for that is already set.
Starting point is 00:59:09 See, while American, British, and free French troops were busy fighting their German, Italian, and Vichy French foes in North Africa, allied leaders were right behind them. And by allied leaders, I mean two of the big three, U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill. Soviet Secretary Joseph Stalin got an invite but declined, citing the East Front offensive against Germany as neat his full attention. The dynamic duo came together in Casablanca, Morocco, for 10 days,
Starting point is 00:59:37 from January 14th to the 24th, 1943. Franklin and Winston made two key decisions here. First, following their Atlantic Charter's previously stated post-war desire, for disarmament and collective security, they adopted a joint policy of unconditional surrender. This means none of the Allies will try to seek a separate peace with Adolf Hitler's Germany. FDR was clear to note, though,
Starting point is 01:00:01 that unconditional surrender means the destruction of the philosophies in those countries, which are based on conquest and the subjugation of other people, and not the destruction of the people themselves. Second, since things in North Africa were slowly going into Allies' favor, remember, this was still months before victory
Starting point is 01:00:20 back in January, 1943. It seemed like planning the next step after this campaign's likely success was in order. A continuation of the promises made to Joseph Stalin, you might say. In other words, the next step is breaching the fortress of Europe. Now, ultimately, they want to land in France. But first, they will take advantage of their control of North Africa to hit what Winston has long called the underbelly of Europe.
Starting point is 01:00:45 They'll strike from the Mediterranean, first seizing the island of Sicily, then moving up the Italian peninsula. After all, getting rid of Italy as a Nazi ally would do wonders for slowing the German war machine. And so, with the Axis forces completely vanquished in North Africa in the summer of 1943, the moment has come to put the Casablanca Conference plans into action. Next time, we'll accompany the Allies on a treacherous amphibious attack into the heart of an Axis power itself. It's time for the invasion of Italy.
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