Hits 21 - 2004 (3): DJ Casper, Usher, McFly

Episode Date: July 9, 2023

Hello again, everyone, and welcome back to Hits 21, the show that's taking a look back at every UK #1 hit single of the 21st century - from January 2000, right through to the present day. Twitter: @Hits21UK Email: [e-mail] https://colourfulsevens.bandcamp.com/album/my-thoughts-only-have-more-threads-granola-edit

Hi there everyone, welcome back to Hits21 where me,, me Andy and me Livy all look back at every single UK number one of the 21st century from January 2000 right through to the present day. If you want to get in touch with us, you can. You can find us over on Twitter. We are

at Hits21UK that is at Hits21UK and you can email us too. Just send it on over to at Hits21UK, that is at Hits21UK, and you can email us too. Just send it on over to Hits21Podcast at gmail.com. Thank you so much for joining us again. We're currently looking back at the year 2004. This time we'll be covering the period between the 14th of March and the 17th of April

in that particular year. But before we get going we're just gonna take a look back at last week of course the song of the week winner was toxic by Britney Spears that it did kind of walk away with it in the end it took a while so it took a couple of days to walk away with it but it did in the end and and a couple of other points of order. I'd just like to mention that I work on music in the background, and about two years ago, I put an EP out, and the songs were good, but the production was not, because I did it all on my own, and I don't know what I'm doing.

not because I did it all on my own and I don't know what I'm doing so I reached out to a guy who I later found out lived in Montevideo in Uruguay wow and he offered to you know master it and you know like basically just redo the whole thing but songs you know it keeping the structure of the songs that I had written but just kind of souping everything up a bit, and making it sound not shit. And so that's out now, and I'll leave a link in the description. The other thing was that

Lizzie, you informed me and Andy of this during the week, is that Hits 21 has gone past its first birthday in between this episode and the last. We uploaded our first proper episode on the 3rd of July in 2022. They grow up

so fast, don't they? I know. Little podcast getting so big. On to this week's episode and as always we're going to give you some news headlines from around the time that the songs in this episode were at number one in the UK. Chris Donald, a 15 year old boy from Glasgow,

Scotland is abducted and killed by a gang of British Pakistani men who are later sent to life imprisonment. The case becomes the first in Scottish history to feature a conviction for racially motivated murder. 193 people are killed and almost 2,000 people are injured after a series of coordinated bomb attacks on a commuter train network in the Spanish capital of Madrid. The attack was the deadliest terrorist incident in Spain's history and, the time was the deadliest terrorist attack in Europe since 1988. An investigation later revealed Al-Qaeda to be responsible. And the torture and abuse of prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq is exposed by American news network CBS. The footage taken from inside the prison showed a group of US soldiers humiliating and beating prisoners,

who were made to wear bags over their heads. The 11 soldiers involved were all later convicted of various charges, sentenced to terms of prison and all lost their military ranks. The films to hit the top of the UK box office during this period were as follows. Starsky and Hutch for one week, The Passion of the Christ for one week, before Scooby-Doo 2 Monsters Unleashed begins a three week run at the top because the British public know what the

fuck they want out of films. And Ruben Studdard was in it, which I'm sure that made a difference to the figures as well. Everybody had to turn out to see Ruben. At the BBC, actor Christopher Eccleston is announced as the ninth

actor to play the Doctor in the upcoming revival of Doctor Who. Plans are revealed for a new 13-episode series, which will be the first Doctor Who series since 1989. And of course, a HITS21 alumni is soon to join Chris Eccleston in that series more on that

next year yeah yeah peter andre oh no and a former blue peter presenter karen keating dies aged 41 after a battle with breast cancer karen who later worked on bb BBC Radio 5 Live and presented alongside Mark Kermode on TV died at her home in Sevenoaks in Kent Andy, how are the UK album charts looking at the moment? Yeah, only got a few to talk to you about this week because it is a brief week in terms of the time that we're covering so we talked about Confessions by Usher last week which was at number one at the start of this period.

And that's soon knocked off the chart by Anastasia by Anastasia. Anastasia's most recent album. Not her debut, as is sort of commonly believed. You know, it's one of those weird things that I had this in my head. I think probably a lot of people did that. Her three big UK hits, I'm Out of Love, Left Outside Alone, One Day in Your Life, they kind of all feel like they came out back to back around the same time, right?

They sort of feel like they were a distinct era of songs. They all came off three different albums, those three. One from 2000, one from 2001, and then Left Outside Alone came off this album, 2004, which is a bit of a banger, but you can't help but sing it as Left Outside of Leigh-Anne. The only other one I remember is Sick and Tired. Yeah, and Sick and Tired was off this album.

Yeah, that was the second single. So that got to number one for two weeks, went four times platinum. It was a big hit for Anastasia, her only UK number one album. And then that's soon toppled by the greatest hits of Guns N' Roses who also take two weeks at number one and go seven times platinum. One of the highest

selling albums of the year there. So yeah, that's all I've got for you this week because time is slow this week. Our first birthday is crawling past the mark. Yeah, only two albums to talk to you about this week. Yeah first birthday is crawling past the mark. Yeah, only two albums to talk to you about this week. Lizzie, and in the States.

Yeah, similarly fallow period. I've got nothing to report on the singles chart as Yeah continues its 12 week run at number one. But we will be discussing it on this very episode, so stay tuned for that.

In the album's chart, Nora Jones' six-week run at number one was brought to an end by Usher, whose album Confessions took the top spot in early April. Confessions spent nine non-consecutive weeks at number one and would eventually be certified diamond in the US, where it sold over 10 million copies to date. And get this, all but one of the singles released from this album

would get to number one on the US singles chart. Alright, thanks very much to the both of you and we're going to move on to the music this week and the first one up that we're going to be looking at is this. Clap, clap, clap, clap your hands. Clap, clap, clap, clap your hands. All right, now, we're going to do the basic step. To the left. Take it back now, y'all. One hop this time.

Right foot, let's stomp. Left foot, let's stomp. Cha-cha, real smooth. Turn it out. To the left. Take it back now y'all One hop this time Right foot, let's stomp

Left foot, let's stomp Cha-cha now y'all Now it's time to get funky To the right now To the left Take it back now y'all One hop this time One hop this time

Right foot, two stumps Left foot, two stumps Slide to the left Okay, this is Cha-Cha Slide by DJ Casper. Okay, this is Cha-Cha Slide by DJ Casper. Released as the first and only single from his debut studio album, titled Cha-Cha Slide, the original Slide album, which I cannot find anywhere. It doesn't have a wiki page. There's a little track list on Google, but I don't know if it's real. Cha-Cha Slide is DJ Casper's first single to be released in the UK.

It's also his first to get to number one, of course, but this is the last time we'll be discussing DJ Casper on this podcast. Chatter Slide first entered the UK chart at number two, reaching number one during its second week on the chart, knocking Britney Spears off the top spot. It stayed at number one for one week. In its first and only week atop the charts it sold 57,000 copies beating competition from Baby I Love You by Jennifer Lopez which got to number three, Not In Love by Enrique Iglesias and Kelis which got to number five and Hey Mama by the Black Eyed Peas which got to number six.

When it was knocked off the top of the charts, Cha-Cha Slide dropped one place to number 2. By the time it was done on the charts, it had been inside the top 100 for 18 weeks. The song was officially certified platinum in the UK in December 2019. So, Andy, kick us off with your thoughts on Cha-Cha Slide. Well, thank you, but if you don't mind, Rob, I'm going to do my own introduction, which is, this is Hits21, listening to lots of songs.

The first one's Chacha Slide, and this time you're going to get Andy. And I'm going to leave it there, because I feel like that will get old extremely quickly. I mean, I kind of have to start with a joke, really, because it's Cha-Cha Slide. Like, what do you expect me to say about it? It's the Cha-Cha Slide. Like, this is probably the first time that anyone's ever sat down and just listened to it without doing the dance. Because who sits

and listens to it? That would be mental. Like, it's just not something that anyone ever does. It's purely the realm of family parties, school discos, and maybe, maybe a drunken dance along but yeah first of all I can't believe that this is 20 years ago

this still feels like one of the modern, you know the most modern kind of entry in this genre and the fact that it's 19 years old is just like Jesus Christ but it goes back a long long long way, doesn't it? You know, it starts with kind of 50s and 60s novelty songs and then you get all the black lace stuff from the 80s and 90s

like Music Man and Superman and all that. And this is kind of the most recent example I can think of of the, you know, give the instructions in the song thing. And I was trying to put together in my head like where did this come from what was that tapping into and I think I've got it you know I think it's dance mats that they were so huge around this time both like DDR machines which are still great by the way always play them or like home dance mats the little foam ones and you would basically do the kind of thing that's in this song like one

foot to the left and you know one foot to the right and stuff. So I think it might be that, that people were kind of going through an era of wanting to get those kind of simple instructions to feel like they're dancing along to a song, because we had a dance mat in our house, like right at this time. So I think that might be something in terms of why this song kind of captured something at this time. Because I don't know what else it would be, because it's pretty generic as a dance-along song. But it's fine for what it is. I think it kind of straddles the line between being pathetically easy,

but also being easy enough to do that it's fun, that you're fine with it. Because it's very, that you're fine with it because it's very very simple moves and there is only one move really, this one particular part of the song that I have to mention which is forever shrouded in mystery which is Charlie Brown

and there is always that one kid in your school or that one person in your family who knows what Charlie Brown is, who knows how to do it. And they are the ancient secret custodian of that knowledge. And it's a little bit like, you know, opening the Ark in Raiders of the Lost Ark or opening Pandora's box. There's some things that man as a whole is not meant to know. There's some things that, you know, have to get passed on secretly through the ages,

through mythology. And how to do the move Charlie Brown is one of them. I certainly don't know. And I kind of like the mystery. I like that kind of awkward vibe when we reach that point where everyone just sort of mills about on the spot for a second until that bit's moved on. Personally, my take on it is to do a kind of funny walk, but I don't know what you two do for the Charlie Brown bit. But yeah, that's about all I've got to say. It's like fine. It's totally fine as a song. Like, I can't get any analysis out of this. Like, it's a fun party piece that, you know, knows what it is and doesn't go any further than that. I think it's probably one of the better ones out of the ones I've mentioned there

instead of all that silly black lace stuff. But yeah, it's fine. I mean, it's a cha-cha slide. What more do you want from me? Go. Well, the thing that I always... I didn't know as a kid, but the thing I always imagine in my head now

whenever they mention Charlie Brown is a kid running up to kick a football and having it whipped away from him at the last second because the person who's holding it gets distracted and he falls over yeah for me for the charlie brown i'm sort of picturing michael serra in arrested development doing like a really sad walk like i love that none of us know I think I because you know if you've seen, you might have seen like a gif

or you might have seen the clip where they're all dancing to their piano song and they've all got separate dances, all the kids but I can't remember what Charlie Brown's was well like I say it's almost nicer not to know because I just like that, I like that there's this element of complete panic that sets in on the audience for half a second.

Because everything else is so prescriptive. It's like one foot, like left foot, left stomp. Like one hop this time. So easy. No metaphor to that at all. And then just children's character. Yeah. It's so odd.

Anyway, go on. I mean, Andy, I'm kind of gutted that you mentioned dance dance revolution because i was like damn it's like it does occupy it does like occupy this weird gray area between yeah like a big club banger and ddr tutorial level yeah even though you can't really slide because they're just binary inputs it's either off or it's on yeah yeah but yeah um well i'm just thinking rob you're a bit younger than both andy and i so i can very much picture you at school disco around this time high on life and panda pops skidding on the parquet floor of the school

hall trying not to bump into the apparatus every school had but never used and then one of the teachers would catch you and they'd force you to sit on the bench with the knobbly ends but yeah you've pretty much described an evening of my life

around this time just there year 5 school disco that was me first time I had this time just there um year five school disco that was me first time i had this was my year six leavers disco so yeah yeah i had something like that and i had the little flame shirt as well because it was 2000 and it was all great we're all guy fieri in that moment oh yeah for me though like this is 2004 i'm 12 going on 13 and this sort of thing would have had me like folding my arms in disgust and politely refusing to cooperate with dj casper's orders because as an adult it's more like i don't know it's like the sort of thing that comes on at a wedding party when everyone's starting to loosen up kind of a bit too much.

Some of the older relatives are calling a night and you're half considering going with them if it means not having to do the cha-cha slide because you know you can't do it. But yeah, for what it's worth, I don't hate this or anything. It's got, you know, an energetic, danceable beat which is more than i could say about anything by black lace but again like black lace it kind of exists in its own sphere and doesn't

really make sense outside of those contexts i mentioned earlier like you say it's not something you you know you put on while you're doing the dishes because why would you it doesn't make any sense the idea of it is so funny that you're just like getting on while you're doing the dishes because why would you? It doesn't make any sense. The idea of it is so funny that you're just, like, getting on with your homework or something or, like, having some background music while you're working and the cha-cha slide is playing. It's just so silly.

Yeah, I kind of like DJ Casper barking out commands at you. He's like, no, leave me, I'm busy. I've got a lot to do. Jeez. God, it just doesn't let up. But yeah, it's better to be a song that evokes something oddly specific than a song that doesn't evoke anything at all, right? Yeah.

And DJ Casper himself is clearly having a great time. So what does it matter that I'd rather be at home without being peer pressured into dancing? I guess that's on me rather than it is on him. Well, that's a good question, because I'm just thinking now, out of the pantheon of these songs, at a wedding or a party or something,

I would do the Macarena, and I'd probably do Saturday Night, probably do Oops Upside Your Head. I wouldn't do the Cha-Cha Slide. Would you do the Cha-Cha Slide now? now well this is a question i had for you and i'll put it to the listeners as well in that i can only think of two big pop songs this and superman by black lace which are just dance instructions which don't have any kind of form or verses around them. It is just instruction, instruction, instruction.

Yeah. Unlike something like, I don't know, Doing the Crab or like, there's other songs like that where they have like a dance bit in the chorus, but they have a song around it. Like Macarena is another one. Yeah. I was thinking like Macarena or like you were saying

there Andy like Gangnam Style that came with its own dance that's just one thing really isn't it single ladies that's not in the song it's a song with a dance attached to it either by the VB or something else but

yeah the only other one I can sort of think of It's a song with a dance attached to it, either by the VB or something else. Yeah, the only other one I can sort of think of, but it only comes close, it doesn't quite meet the mark, which is just the locomotion. There's also Do You Love Me as well, which has the do the mash potato, do the twist. But again, it's not the whole song like this. And the time warp, but again, that's just one section of of it But it's probably the most popular section of the time warp

That bit so yeah It's more about like The chatter slide thing Where the whole thing is like This is It's not really a dance the chatter slide is it It's a workout It's a workout it's a whole routine

Whereas like a lot of songs about dance crazes are like they first they use the first verse to say everybody's interested in this dance craze and then the chorus is like here's how you do it and then the second verse will only be like and here's how you'll feel after you've done the dance craates and gotten involved it's quite a tight formula yeah you know but yeah the only other ones I can sort of think the only other ones I can sort of think of are like I mean I guess like there's the twist

but then there's let's twist again which was like the follow is chubby checker right yeah but it doesn't tell you how to do the twist so it's not actually instructions yeah it just tells you to do it it's like and also there's a song around that which isn't about the dance necessarily i mean there's again the other one as well that i'm sort of thinking of that's kind of like this is le freak well like

the whole first verse is like here's this cool new dance literally have you heard about the new dance crazy yeah and this is you, like everybody's doing it. And then the chorus is just freak out. The freaks say chic. And then the second verse is like, and here's how you're going to feel once you've done it. And then, I don't know. Yeah, I think I'm hoping that people will get in touch with us.

Yeah, me too. Through the week. Please get in touch with us. If you can think of any songs which are literally just from the first second to the last just dance instructions rather than just talking about a dance that people are doing to try and make you feel involved because i mentioned to you the hokey cokey the other day as well but again that's like a really really old it's hardly a pop song it's like an old folk song almost and you really couldn't get away with playing that

to anyone over about 10 imagine if the Hokey Cokey comes on at a wedding, you'd be like what the hell is this wedding there'd be many knees are bent and arms are stretched and rah rah rahs if we're counting the Hokey Cokey we can also count head, shoulders, knees and toes

really can't we That's a fair point Baby shark, I don't know Sort of baby shark Yeah Yeah with Chatter Slide it's kind of hard to review This properly isn't it It really isn't trying to be a song

In the traditional sense It's using music as a backing To provide instructions Like you say, so like, you know, they get abandoned to redo the instrumental so it can have more viability commercially, but trying to apply the usual lens to Cha Cha Slide doesn't really work, like it sort of breaks the rubric by which you're supposed to analyse, and also it kind of breaks the rubric of how we've been analyzing songs on this show so far

so what i will say is that it's great in the setting that it was designed for but is basically pointless in any other setting except to make you wish you were in the setting that it was designed for like as like you were saying lizzie about you know me being a little bit maybe being just at the right age to appreciate this at the time being like nine ten years old this is like peak primary school disco shit like this in to be honest this entire episode for me is peak school disco shit in primary school chacha slide especially though because it probably still is now with kids oh i don't know, I don't know about that does it not still get played at school discos

it came out about 10 years before they were born, that's the thing, it's the equivalent of like something from the early 80s for us which would not be what happened well Superman, I remember Superman being played as a kid for me, because I remember

for years trying to work out because I didn't know what song it was, but I just remember a and it used to it went round in my head for years until I finally found out that it was Superman the only other one I can sort of think of but again it's another one that just sort of says

have you heard of this dance, is The Bump it's a good one, it's a dance called The B of says, have you heard of this dance? It's The Bump. It's a good one. It's a dance called The Bump, and my hip slipped, and my buttocks came into contact with the buttocks of another young man. That's my coming out story. But I've had a weird thing with this song the past two weeks. So we should probably let people know about the story. So, you know, when we were prepping for this episode,

or when I was prepping for the episode, and I was listening to the songs ahead in the weeks coming, I thought, I'm going to try and find Cha-Cha Slide Part 1. Because obviously it says at the beginning, this is something new, the Casper Slide Part 2. And so I was thinking, surely someone's uploaded it to YouTube by now because periodically over the last sort of 15 years, I have been looking for Part 1 to the Chacha Slide,

and it's never been uploaded, ever. And, you know, I'll check every like three or four months and still, you know, nothing. And then just, you know know as luck would have it six months ago somebody uploaded part one to chatter slide onto youtube and i found it um while i was doing research for this episode and you know because i write for metro and stuff i kind of you know i put my journalist slash reporter head on. And I thought, hey, why don't I do a piece about this for Metro? You know, why don't I say, like, hey, look, everyone, it's that thing that some people remember.

Look at it, you know, go and do it. And so, you know, did the piece. It got published. Shared it about with my friends and family and stuff and what have you and then on wednesday morning this week so a few days ago um as of sunday which is when we definitely record the episode um i got a message from someone that i haven't spoken to in years like i haven't spoken to him since we were 16 and we left school and he he sent me a message saying I think Greg James has read your cha-cha slide article because he's just talked about cha-cha slide part one on radio one on his show and I was like what the fuck so I went and listened to it

and there it was he was like talking about cha-cha slide part one like i didn't get any credit but he reads out facts and stats that i mentioned in my article the fact that it was originally recorded in 1998 um the fact that his real name dj casper was willie perry jr and a few other things um and i i just to double check i went and searched searched for Chatter Slide on the news feed on Google just to see. And one other outlet covered it based on my story. And they didn't include those facts. And so it's slightly surreal. The week that I've had with it, where I finally find this thing that I've been looking for for years,

I get to write about it, and then some producer in the back room at Radio 1's like, hey, Greg, what if we put this on your show? And, like, I'm slightly annoyed that I didn't get any credit, but I'm sort of pleased that everybody, well, not everybody, but everyone who was listening knows about Cha-Cha Slide Part 1 now, but i'm sort of pleased that everybody well not everybody but everyone who was listening knows about chat to slide part one now this like slightly mysterious and it makes it it makes dj casper sound like he's really ordering people around as opposed to just trying to build an

atmosphere and then you read about the song's history and it was like oh it was to help people through the steps of a steps aerobic class and it just yeah the song has such a strange history the fact that it was released in 2000 but it was never it didn't really go anywhere and then it was finally finally released in 2004 properly and it turns into this worldwide smash that still gets played at school discos and step aerobics classes and you know you get kids to do silly little things and stuff so yeah like i don't think i'll ever listen to this in a regular setting again um like just like i normally do sat on my sofa but you know it it has a place in the world and it definitely has a place in pop music history so fair play even if dj casper

is slightly sick of the song now apparently he got interviewed earlier this year like how do you feel about the song and he was like well I'm sick of it but I'm not sick of seeing people having fun to it so fair play Mr DJ Casper which is a lovely sentiment I actually thought of a song

along these lines while we were kind of chatting before. I'll give you a hint. It's by an artist we've covered a couple of times on the podcast. Okay. Is it like cheesy pop?

You could say that. Is it Steps? Because I thought Steps might have one. No, no. It's around the same time though. Like late 2000, 2001. Ooh. Kylie? No, no.

Should I just tell you? Go on, go on. Absolutely. So, in 2008, November 2008, there was an album released called Never Mind the Breeze Blocks by... Bob the Builder. Bob the Builder.

Oh, of course. Never Mind the Breeze Blocks by... Bob the Builder. Bob the Builder. Of course. Who performed a song called Big Fish, Little Fish. Cardboard Box. Exactly. Ah. But what do those moves mean? He doesn't tell you what it means. It's Big Fish, Little Fish, Cardboard Box.

Techno, techno, techno, techno, techno, techno. Hang on, hang on, hang on, though. I mean, has this literally just happened here where we've had a problem and Bob the Builder has fixed it? Has he literally just done it? He really can fix it. Yes, he can. Proof if he needed it, ladies and gentlemen. He still couldn't fix it for himself to get another number one.

This got to number 81. Ooh. If he just 80 places, just so close. Two cramped with Weezer hits that week. Yeah. Right, okay. On to our second song for this week. And it is this.

Peace out. Peace out. Peace out. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And it is I said I'm sure that she was checking up on me From the game she was spitting in my ear, you would think that she knew me Decided to chill, conversation got heavy She had me feeling like she's ready to blow Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Okay, this is Yeah by Usher featuring Ludacris and Lil Jon.

Released as the lead single from his fourth studio album titled Confessions, we heard about it earlier, Yeah is Usher's tenth single overall to be released in the UK and his first to reach number one. This is not the last time we'll be discussing Usher on this podcast. Yeah went straight in at number one as a brand new entry knocking DJ Casper off the top of the charts. It stayed at number one for two weeks. In its first week at number one it sold 87,000 copiesating competition from Your Game by Will Young Which got to number 3 Which is a shame

And She Wants to Move by N.E.R.D Which got to number 5 During its second week at the top It sold 50,000 copies Beating competition from Left Outside Alone by Anastasia Which got to number 3 Breathe Easy by Blue

Which got to number 4 Love is Only a Feeling by The Darkness Which got to number 3. Breathe Easy by Blue, which got to number 4. Love Is Only A Feeling by The Darkness, which got to number 5. The Way You Move by Outkast, which got to number 7. In The Middle by Sugar Babes, which got to number 8. And Through The Wire by Kanye West,

which got to number 9. What a run of songs kept off the top there. When it was knocked off the top of the charts, Yeah dropped one place to number two. It initially left the charts in 2004, but re-entered the charts in 2005, 2010 and 2013, which means it has spent a total of 22 weeks inside the top 100. The song was officially certified three times platinum in the uk

three months ago in april 2023 so this is a big deal lizzie usher featuring ludacris and little john how do we feel about yeah i thought you were gonna say do you like it i'll be like yeah yeah Yeah! Yeah. Like, yeah, it's good. It's not great or anything, but I do like this. I think Ludacris really elevates it. I think without that verse, this would probably be bumped down a couple of marks just because little Johnny can do a lot, but he can't fill an entire song with that shtick. So as much as he's very welcome here, I don't think he does a lot of the heavy lifting.

But that's not his job. He's a hype man. He's like the kind of fat man scoop sort of role, which is fine. I think, I'm trying to think, because like, you know, to the latter half of of this decade we get the big party anthem sort of domination. You get black eyed peas kind of taking over. And I'm wondering if this is the first instance of that on this show. I wouldn't really put this in that category to be honest. I think this is more of a... It's not as utterly mainstream and completely straight down the line

as songs like that. I mean... I'm maybe thinking more like... Is it Low by... Yeah, Low Flow Rider. Boots with the fur, with the fur. Exactly, that sort of thing and like even you know soldier boy

as well it's like this kind of I guess it's called like ringtone rap and oh snap yeah snap yeah and I know there was in the club last year but that didn't get to number one over here but it was the biggest song of the year by far

in America so this feels kind of like a response to that kind of taking over. And yeah, it worked like it was a big hit in America is a big hit over here. And while it is very memorable, I don't think I don't think it's amazing or anything um i'd say i maybe like it more than some other upcoming usher hits just because it has a bit of energy to it it has like that sort of synth sweep that kind of dominates the sound coming for the next couple of years and yeah i i think there's i think there's a lot to like about it but I wouldn't I wouldn't put it in the vault or anything like that I think it's I think it's good but just not in that opposite yeah I agree with quite a lot of your comments there Lizzie I definitely see

what you mean about how it's certainly emblematic of something. I think it sort of probably attracts a similar sort of crowd to songs like Low and what would later be things like, I don't know, Party Rock Anthem or maybe things like that. And yeah, I can sort of see that. I mean, it has major kind of energy to it, this song. So yeah, I think think definitely definitely the best thing about this song is little John's plaintive shrieks of what yeah okay which I really think the world would be better if we all just punctuated each

other's sentences with the occasional WHAT! WATCH OUT! Me and my husband quite often do it to random songs. We'll be listening to, I don't know, something really, really chilled out like Fleetwood Mac or something and it'll be like, don't stop thinking about tomorrow.

Let me just throw that in there. It's just brilliant and it really means I have to have to have to give a shout out to Cooking by the Book

are you both familiar with Cooking by the Book? nope no neither of you so it's a mash up of a song from LazyTown with

Little John's what's and a verse from him as well where it's the girl from LazyTown going you gotta do the from him as well, where it's the girl from Lazy Town going, you've got to do the cooking by the book. What?

It's just so, so funny. You must look it up. I'm sure a lot of our listeners will have heard of it because it really did the rounds about ten years ago. It's so funny. I still revisit it to this day. Yeah, I like this. I like this.

I like that synth sound to it. It's slightly annoying in terms of, like, it's a little bit of a sharp sound a lot of the time. And Usher's voice tends to grate on me a little bit as well. But he's all right, Usher. I don't mind this at all. And it really does feel like 2004 to me. Like, this was everywhere at the time.

And you can kind of see why. Like, it is catchy. It does sound quite different to a lot of the stuff that's around right now and it definitely has a swagger about it as a cool factor about it that um well needless to say cha-cha slide doesn't have so yeah i quite like this i should say that my dad absolutely loves this song he still sings it like all the time um i don't know why, because my dad, Rob, you've met my dad, he's

like, you know, meat and potatoes guy in his early 60s. His music interests are like OMD, Depeche Mode, Mark Almond, all that stuff. He's not really got much interest in things past the mid-80s, but he loves this. He really loves this. I don't know

why. It's like my dad, whose entire music collection probably ends in 1979, really loves Empire State of Mind. Just no idea why. It's like my mum, whose hair tastes

lie mostly in the 70s. She's big disco, Motown, Earth, Wind & Fire, that sort of thing. She's a huge fan of that stuff, but also she is, like, the world's biggest mega-fan of The Wanted. Like, she is a proper, like, screaming fangirl of The Wanted. Just absolutely,

like, besotted with them. And no one else from that era, just The Wanted. It's bizarre to me. Wow. Yeah. But, yeah. Anyway, so with this I do like it, the only other thing that I wanted to add as well just to give a shout out to a cover of this, I recently

re-listened to an album I got by a vocal group called The Lounge Kittens who they, basically they were a support act for a band my husband went to see like 5-10 years ago and they're a kind of old style, like boogie,

boogie, bugle boy, kind of like female vocal group. And they do covers of like noughties and tens and nineties hits like in that style. And they did this fantastic cover of yeah. Um, that's done in a kind of wartime cabaret bar style.

Um, and it's so good. I would recommend anyone goes and listens to it um because it's the superior version of this song i think but yeah i quite like this yeah gets a thumbs up overall i completely agree with you lizzie that this sets a particular template that spreads out across a few genres and sort of results in us getting a lot of the pop that we get between 2007 and 2012 the kind of song that would later be parodied on uh bojack horseman with the um this is a pop song it's 2007 um auto tune so all the voices sound weird and i would say that lil john himself is one of the more influential

artists of the 21st century if you consider get low came just before this that was huge in america absolutely huge um he's a vital part of this um but he's also if you remember responsible for shots shots shots shots shots shots and also turned down for what which was a huge hit and went massive absolutely everywhere you know

he has managed to sustain himself through relatively sporadic appearances on quite big pop culture moments within pop music, I think. Basically, I would say the most mainstream name from all of crunk.

Oh, yeah. And fair play to him for that. So, yeah, this isn't exactly like a hard and fast rule, but I think the general consensus among like contemporary r&b and rap artists of the 90s and the 2000s with it was that you needed three successful songs in three separate categories in order to become a us or worldwide sensation which is that you needed a song for the fellas a a song for the ladies, and a song for the dance floor. This is something I think that P Diddy really understood, which is why, just as an example,

Biggie had all of his songs for the fellas like Things Don't Change and millions of others, but he also had the One More Chance remix for the ladies, and he had Juicy for the dance floor. It was the staple of all sorts of New Jack Swing acts as well, male acts mainly. And so Usher arrives with Yeah, which is his song for the floor. He'll have his song for the fellas later this year, which is Corp, and he'll have his song for the ladies, which is Burn, which we're going to cover. And it's an effective blueprint and it served him well until he had a kind of lean period commercially between 2005 and 2007 and then he came back in 2008

with some of the worst fucking pop music i've ever heard in my life i think loving this club is right up there with like one of my least favorite songs of all time. Really, really can't stand it. But I really, really cannot stand one that we're going to have to cover in 2010, which is the one. Oh, my God. With William, the fucking. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Oh my god Do we have to do that? Yeah And Pitbull That's someone where he Allegedly plagiarised Homer Simpson Really?

Allegedly plagiarised Homer Simpson Yeah there was Do you remember Oh what was it It's the episode Where they go to the ranch And Homer's writing

A Christmas song And he goes Christmas in December Wow wow wow Give me lots of presents Now Now What is

That's oh my god I've never thought of that god it is a little bit isn't it yeah because oh my god just goes like you're all mine oh god but before we get to all that shit like this

so this is loud like those opening sirens have become iconic for good reason, whether you like them or not. The constant shouts of yeah have lasted till this day. I think this is the biggest crunk song ever released. And so I think it gets good points for that. Usher is a charismatic vocalist,

and I think he stands up well in surroundings that don't usually suit him because in the 90s he's kind of characterized as a bit of a ladies man and this was effectively a rebrand like putting in next to Lil Jon and Ludacris and it works. Lil Jon brings the hype, Ludacris brings a cool verse which I'm not ashamed to admit was the first rap verse i ever tried to learn as a kid but i am ashamed to admit that i could probably still do it all the way through like i used to get to the end of it and then skip back and then play it all the way through again trying to learn everything that he said this is me like 10 years old in my bedroom who do chris phil cups like double d's uh 10 years old um the only thing with this that kind of there are a few things that kind of stopped me putting it in the vault as much

as i like it um i think the sirens get annoying after a while and i think the balance usher finds between his smooth vocals and his kind of like more aggressive posture for this it's clearly successful but i'm unsure how effective it feels years later i feel like i get tired of this like quicker than i used to i feel like it arrives fully formed which means it doesn't really progress from the high that it shoots for right off the bat but i do kind of like this as much as a song i had similar issues with which was survivor which is that it arrives exactly where it's supposed to be and then doesn't really want to leave that particular environment.

And that's fine. That's completely cool. But yeah, this is a total rebrand for Usher and it works, but it's not long before he kind of goes back to the mean average of his kind of stuff, which we'll explore in, uh, in future episodes, um, but yeah, this is, this is pretty cool, it's not vault-worthy, um, I wouldn't say it's close either, but, you know, it's, it's more than a mild thumbs up from me after all these years, um, like, even recently, you've still had that cat being remixed into the do-do, do-do, you know, because the cat goes like that, and then it's been remixed into and then Lil Jon goes, hey, in the background of whatever video it is that this person has made. So, yeah, I think it's kind of stood the test of time. it's kind of stood the test of time um it's i think you know it's one of the biggest singles of 2004 it's kind of interesting to look back and go yeah i think we were sort of you know

finger on the pulse with this one um this sounded new and exciting at the time and it did kind of pave the way for artists to come later it's a shame that nothing usher ever does again is anywhere near as good as this but we'll cross that bridge just about when we get to it in 2010 because thankfully we don't have to cover love in this club by the way I've got a little fun fact for you

by the way before we move on did you know that we get to cover the answer song to this there's an answer song to this yeah there's a song written in response to this, and it gets to number one. Ooh. Oh. I'll let you stew over that at home. It's, um, Goodies

by Ciara. Oh, I didn't know that was written as a response to this. Cool. Yeah. Apparently so. So, last up this week, it's this. She's got a lip ring and five colors in her hair Not into fashion, but I love the clothes she wears Her tattoos always get her by her underwear

She don't care Everybody wants to know her name I do a house party and she came Everyone asked me, who the hell is she? That weirdo with five colours in her hair Okay, this is Five Colours in Her Hair by McFly. Released as the lead single from the group's debut studio album titled Room on the Third Floor, Five Colours in Her Hair is McFly's first single to be released in the UK

and of course their first to reach number one. But it is not the last time we'll be coming to McFly on this podcast. Five Colours in Her Hair went straight in at number one as a brand new entry knocking Usher off the top of the charts. It stayed at number 1 for two weeks. In its first week at number 1, it sold 50,000 copies beating competition from Slow Jams by Twister, which got to number 3, and Someone Like Me by Atomic Kitten, which got to number 8. Atomic Kitten, which got to number 8.

In its second week at the top, it sold 37,000 copies, beating competition from In the Shadows by The Rasmus, which got to number 3, Come With Me by Special D, which got to number 6, I Like It by Narcotic Thrust, which got to number 9, and Naughty Girl by Beyoncé, which got to number 10. I think only in 2004 could Beyoncé chart lower than an act called Narcotic Thrust. When it was knocked off the top of the charts, five colours in her hair fell

five places to number 6. By the time it was done on the charts, it had been inside the top 100 for 19 weeks. The song was officially certified silver in the UK in July 2014. I'm only just recovering from that seismic blow

of dropping from 1 to 6 I have to leave it number 1 so Andy, 5 Colours in Her Hair by Take It Away Yeah, well hasn't this been the most 2004 episode there ever was we've had Cha Cha Slide, Yeah

and 5 Colours in Her Hair, I mean if I was making a playlist for 2004 those may very well be the first three tracks that I would pick it's just so of it's time this episode and I love that I used to really like this at the time and there's a really interesting context to this

of everybody having to be slowly convinced because Busted were still at their height at this time and people knew that mcfly were friends of busted but i think it was kind of seen as mcfly is sort of trying to break free and do their own thing and steal busted's thunder which was not happening at all they wrote songs for each other they were extremely good friends with each other they were kind of companion acts but my sister for example who was a huge bustedusted fan, she was like, no, no McFly.

Like, we cannot let them happen. Like, to paraphrase Back to the Future, you will never amount to anything, McFly. And just really just didn't want to know about them. But then gradually she turned around, as did all of us, as like, they're actually quite good. Actually quite like McFly. They're not really the same as Busted. And you might say that in some ways they're better than Busted. And in retrospect, yeah, they're better than Busted.

They are. And I think they really prove their worth through their quite long discography of a surprisingly large amount of really good songs. I don't think it's anything special, but I do think it's a really nice different flavour to the charts in 2004, where it is Busted-style pop rock, but it's a little bit lighter than that, a little bit more innocent than that, but with

that same sort of cheeky side to it, and with this vaguely 1950s, 60s reverb-y guitar-like flavour to it that's a little bit like the Beach Boys. And they kind of take that through their whole career of being a little bit kind of retro and deliberately behind the times and old-fashioned. But not in a way that's like music for the grandmas, like Westlife

or something like that, but in a way that's just sort of innocently retro in a cool way that just kind of makes you feel like you want to explore that side of music a little bit more and I've met several people who got into playing instruments because they wanted

to be like McFly and found them cool so yeah I think all props to them, they have a good legacy and they're kind of a good authentic band for young people to get into as their first band. I don't think this is one of their very best songs, but I do like it.

I think the, you know, the catchy do, do, do, do, do, do,

do, and the guitar hook at the start, like they know what they're doing in terms of putting together a very straightforward, catchy pop song. I think the lyrics are a bit strange. Like they're trying to do that busted thing of telling a whole story from start to finish about this romance he had,

and it doesn't really come off. It's like, what's the deal with this girl? Just leave her alone. Why is everybody talking about her? So she's got a funny hairdo. So what? I imagine the girl is a bit like George Bush in The Simpsons when he's got the rainbow wig,

and he's like, no questions about my hair. George Bush in The Simpsons when he's got the rainbow wig and he's like, no questions about my hair. So I don't really think like the lyrics come off. I think it's a bit daft. But in terms of what they're trying to do as artists and where they're trying to settle in and what their style is, I think this is a really good mission statement for them. They've got some songs coming up that I think are genuinely great pop songs, like real standouts of the decade in terms of how well written they are as kind of soft pop rock songs. And this is a good start for them.

Like I say, I don't think it's one of their best, and I think it's a bit of an afterthought when you look at their whole career. But I've got a lot of time for McFly. They're lovely guys, they're good musicians, and they know how to write a pop song. Yeah, I like it. Lizzie, how about you?

Yeah, I agree with a lot of your points. I obviously like them better than Busted because I just don't like Busted. I'm sorry. But yeah, I do like this. It is very... It very much sounds like an intro to a CBBC show, doesn't it? Yes.

You can kind of imagine that intro. It's like, and here he is. It's Barney Harwood and Nev the Bear like you're right in there and um yeah it's and that works because it's got some some energy to it and it's like they're they're bursting onto the scene by writing a song that has kind of all of their influences rolled into like one sound like you've got that sort of early beach boys surf sound you've got the beatles desk kind of harmonies um you've got like a little bit of like a blink 182 kind of pop punk breakdown towards the end um you've got bits of like power pop in there from the 70s, let's say,

I don't know, the Undertones, for example. Like, it's all kind of rolled into one and it's like they're showing up to say, yeah, this is who we are and that's fine. We kind of wear our influences on our sleeves. Again, Andy, I agree with you about the lyrics it's like it's not particularly compelling like why do you care so much about this this girl's hair it's like surely she has more interesting traits than that and if she doesn't then why write a song about her but um yeah that's kind of it's neither here nor there I don't think that's really their intention to make a deep meaningful song about a woman it is just something to something to attach to the tune and the tune itself is is pretty good um yeah I don't have an

awful lot to say about it because I don't have much personal experience of McFly generally. A lot like Busted, I think I was at the point where I found myself being a bit too, not too old as such, but just not their target audience. And that's fine. But I'm looking forward to hearing more of them on the podcast because I'm sure they will come... Well, I know they'll come up again

and I know they get better and better as songwriters. Maybe they don't put out something truly like... You know, they're not going to put out Toxic, but, you know, it's a good start, this, and it's definitely not as annoying as I find Busted. I'm very sorry. I just want to say, Andy, I was in the car with you yesterday and Gay Bar by Electric Six came on,

and it struck me how similar it is to Five Colours in Her Hair. It is. That intro lick is very, very similar. I should say, that's not a normal thing. I don't always have gay barren in the car. I'm not that gay. It's a coincidence. Thanks for painting that picture of me there, Rob. It just so happened

that you were listening to Electric Six last night, weren't you? I think McFly's records broadly sounded much better than busted's because mcfly compositionally and in terms of approach were always softer i always think the problem with busted's sound mixing and mastering in their records is that they were going for something with a bit of a rough edge and the producers were like yeah but we need to sell you to nine-year-olds so we can't go too hard now can we whereas with McFly the producers will have been like yeah lad sure let's just not have any

distorted guitars at all let's just play everything nice and clean and remind everybody of the California sound which means that they're much easier for pop mixers trying to make music for preteens, basically. It feels a little bit, I've always kind of thought that, and I'm not comparing McFly and Busted to these bands necessarily, but stay with me for a second. It feels more like Busted's distant spiritual predecessors were the kinks or the troggs whereas mcfly's were more like the beatles and the monkeys if you know what i mean that little

distinction between them kind of like what you were both saying there about them sounding like the beatles and the beach boys and stuff and this employs that kind of monkey style dynamic and applies it a bit to the california surf sound but it puts its own strange twist on it by inventing this as we've said this character who starts out as a relatively carefree individual but then has their sense of individuality kind of like crushed by the song itself it goes all it kind of like it breaks the fourth wall for a second like this kind of lyric i can't really think of any big pop hit since that operates in this fashion where it's a story about someone who's affected by the song that's being sung like where you sort of have to think laterally about the protagonist and the perspectives in this song, but I think

they show some cool instincts together as a group, especially the sort of the shift into that slower minor third verse before going back up into the major key, like, do-do-do-do-do-do, just to kind of round off. Like you saying lizzie it really does sound like the theme tune to a cbbc uh kind of show um plus i think this and it's true of all three songs this week it is fun it is fast and infectious and it shows a lot of talent and it sets them up to be a popular act for at least the next few years um I wish they played a bit harder. It all seems quite soft touch and restrained in a way that sees it stop slightly short of its potential, I think. They would do better songs that feel closer to their identity a little bit further down the line.

I've always been a big fan of Room on the Third Floor, which doesn't get to number one, but I've always liked Room on the Third Floor. There's lots of interesting images painted in that song just about like the miserable whole thing about being in a roadside motel like it's their attempt at doing like american alternative rock and they paint some interesting images in that song i think um and they're happy to kind of be restrained In a way that they keep the song Secret Weapons

Hidden for a little while But the big memory I have of this Was seeing them do it live Supporting Busted in spring 2004 At Manchester Arena They came out and did Five Colours in Her Hair

First and you know how normally with support acts, like, you know, there's a few people there to watch them, but there's mostly just people milling around and getting a drink or buying some merch or finding their seats, and it's all a bit, you know, there's a hubbub

constantly of chatter that the support act kind of have to perform over. McFly did not get that treatment because they had gone to number one like two weeks before or maybe it was a week after but they were like it was that performance it felt like you it was like a passing of the torch we didn't know at the time obviously and busted have still got another number one in them, but it did feel a bit like, even though McFly came on first, it felt like they were sort of like, Busted was sort of saying, and there's the guys who are going to replace us in like six months time. It's one of those moments where you feel the temperature of the country just shift ever so slightly, where a full arena is singing along to

every word of a support act song and it felt like oh these guys are going to be big like it really did feel like genuinely quite exciting especially when um they sing the second verse and tom says bone her instead of phone her yeah and and um in the last chorus i remember danny instead of saying who the hell is she he says who the fuck is she and in that moment i remember a bunch of nine and ten-year-old boys and girls all going, he said fuck on the stage! And all the parents in the room going, he said fuck on the stage! Ow, my freaking ears! I expect that kind of language at Denny's, but not here.

Wow, we've quoted two Flanders lines in this episode. And then they went straight to number one, and it was really, really exciting to be right there in the moment as a band hit the big time right at that moment. It was like the moment they exploded was that Busted tour in the support slot. And then they were able to... I would argue that by the end of the 2000s,

McFly were definitely a bigger band than Busted. I think that they lasted longer. They had more of a... I suppose they also benefited from being around when Freeview really took off, and it meant that they could be in more places more of the time but I think that they were a bigger band, they just stayed around longer

they had more hits they were asked to do things that Busted didn't really get asked to do, maybe because McFly's image was a bit cleaner but yeah I like McFly's singles, I think that I would be very happy with listening to, like,

their greatest hits up to 2008. I'm not a fan of Party Girl or anything that they do on that album with Tayo Cruz. I don't mind Shine a Light. That's okay. I hate Party Girl. Yeah. She wants to dance all by herself.

Oh, Jesus. See, I saw them on that tour Well I saw them do like A few songs Because they did this show called Radio City Live Which was them, The Wanted, Scouting for Girls Alexandra Burke The Saturdays, they did like two or three songs each

And they did Party Girl And I was just like This is a turn for the worse I think McFly might be over now yeah yeah they were for quite a few years after that weren't they um yeah but i like this it's not vault worthy but one or two of theirs might be for me i'm gonna have to see how i feel when we get to them oh i've got some definite vault worthy ones some really really good ones i think yeah and yeah this feels like a bit of a moment this feels like a shift it really does feel like

the 2000s obviously we've said this before are well underway but now i'm like fully fully like recalling things like specific things as opposed to just as opposed to just like foggy memories that i can kind of interpret from a distance. It really feels like I'm listening to these songs and I'm sort of present in 2004 with them. Do we have anything more to say about Five Colours In Her Hair or any of the songs that we've discussed this week? Just quickly, number one, Robbie You're In Luck,

they released the greatest hits album in 2007. Yes, I will throw that on at some point this week? Just quickly, number one, Robbie, you're in luck. They released the greatest hits album in 2007. Yes. I will throw that on at some point this week. I've got the later one, Memory Lane from 2012. I've got that. Oh no. It's still got all the good stuff on it. It's just got some of the less good stuff on it as well.

But yeah, I was also just going back to Busted a second and comparing their success. If you think of pop punk as a spectrum, do you think it's more just like McFly are on the more pop end and Busted are sort of in the more punk side of things, although it's like... They're grittier. I don't really think there's any punk in McFly, to be honest.

I think it's pop rock. Like, just kind of pop like pop with guitars really yeah but then they they get labeled as a pop punk band no i can't think of any of their songs that i would describe as pop punk not really i would argue that radioactive is probably the closest they ever got, which is their album from 2008, which had Lies on it and One for the Radio. Yeah, so, hmm. Yeah, I would say that they're more of a pop-rock and power-pop group, though. And I think there's an element of teen-pop in there as well. Yeah, fair enough.

And I think where I was with... The thing, though though with McFly that I think kind of separates him from Busted is I wouldn't class McFly as a boy band I would class Busted as a boy band but saying boy band about McFly just feels wrong

it doesn't fit them I wouldn't classify either of them as a boy band because they don't fit the criteria for me because they write and play their own music so I wouldn't classify either of them as that but if i had to i would say mcfly are the boy band because they attract a much younger audience than busted ever did so but it's like that's the point it's like calling the feeling a boy band it doesn't well i kind of maybe would, to be honest, but yeah. Okay. But just in that they were extremely light. Yeah.

Probably because I'll never really get to mention them properly on the podcast. Well, at least not for a while anyway. They may do well in the album charts. And 12 Stops and Home is a good album. I like 12 Stops and Home. I quite like the feeling. They quite like sown, and I love it when you call. I'm listening to everything I own in alphabetical order,

and I've got 12 Stops and Home coming up in a couple of days, so you'll get to see what I think of that. Never Be Lonely, Fill My Little World. There's a great song on that album called Helicopter, which is like surprisingly heavy um by sort of like you know they're kind of post brit poppy pop rock um standards the only other thing i want to add on this is just to acknowledge that obviously all the theme tunes we've had have been somewhat inspired by elements of that year this is the first time that our theme tune

has like fully pastiched one particular song because it is pretty indicative of the era, Five Colours in a Hair and it's a pretty fun one to make a theme tune out of but yeah it's the first time we've kind of wholesale referenced a song so people listening to the theme tune might have now heard this come up and been

like ahhh and if not then now you can go ah so okay so before we go we're just going to check whether any songs are going to make it into the pie hole or the vault

so Cha Cha Slide I'm not putting that anywhere no it's not sliding into either the vault or the pie hole or Chris No, it's not sliding into either the vault or the play hole. Or crisscrossing. It's not Charlie Browning. Charlie Browning, yeah. Yeah, by Usher and Ludacris and Lil Jon.

I'm not putting that anywhere. What? No. Okay. No, I'm not putting that anywhere. And McFly, five colours in her hair. Also no. No, not for not for me no not for me either it's a dry week

yeah a dry week unfortunately but that is it for this week's episode thank you very much for listening when we come back we'll be covering the period between the 18th of April and the 5th of June so we're getting through this year at last we'll be at the halfway point before long and we'll see you next time see you

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