Hits 21 - 2005 (5): Akon, Oasis, Crazy Frog

Episode Date: October 8, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 HITS21 Alright there everyone, welcome back to HITS21 where me, Rob, me, Andy, and me, Lizzie, all look back at every single UK number one of the 21st century, from January 2000 right through to the present day. If you want to
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Starting point is 00:00:52 for joining us again we are currently looking back at the year 2005 this week we are going to be covering the period between the 8th of May and the 25th of June so another fairly long period. We're finally starting to get through 2005.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Just a quick look back at last week. The poll winner was All About You by McFly. Well done. It wins the comic relief battle. I think I would have flipped the desk if it hadn't won, to be honest. That would have been absolutely outrageous. Thank you for saving Andy's desk, everyone. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:01:31 And on to this week's episode. And as always, we're going to give you some news headlines from around the time that the songs we're covering in this episode were at number one in the UK. After a four-month trial, Michael Jackson is found not guilty of 14 counts related to child molestation, child abduction and extortion. In the aftermath, Jackson never returned to his Neverland ranch where the offences allegedly took place. In 2013, a defence witness, Wade Robson, changed his position and filed a lawsuit claiming that he had been abused by Jackson as a child.
Starting point is 00:02:11 The Sellafield Nuclear Power Plant in Cumbria is closed down after 20 tonnes of plutonium and uranium leak from a broken pipe. The British Nuclear Group was convicted following the accident and were eventually fined £500,000. Meanwhile, Anthony Ashley Cooper, the 11th Earl of Shaftesbury, dies of a heart attack just aged 27 in New York. And in football, Jose Mourinho's Chelsea win their first Premier League title. Arsenal become the first team to win the FA Cup on penalties, beating Manchester United in the final in Cardiff. And Liverpool win their fifth European Cup on penalties after coming back from 3-0 down against AC Milan.
Starting point is 00:02:54 The game was later named the Miracle of Istanbul. Really good match that. Yes, particularly famous one. Well, why we've included it, but yes. The films to hit the top of the UK box office during this period were as follows. Kingdom of Heaven for two weeks, Star Wars Episode III, Revenge of the Sith for three weeks, Mr. and Mrs. Smith for one week,
Starting point is 00:03:19 and then Batman Begins for two weeks. I've got to mention here that Revenge of the Sith, that was the most hyped I had ever been for anything at that time. It has since been surpassed, obviously, but that was the most excited I'd been for anything as a kid. Me and my best friend Mackie were counting down the days and had
Starting point is 00:03:38 tickets booked two months in advance to go and see it. I do think of the prequel films, it's probably the best one. I think it's my favourite of the three. Meanwhile, Kylie Minogue announces that she has been diagnosed with breast cancer at age 36. This meant that she had
Starting point is 00:03:53 to cancel the rest of her tour dates that year. However, in 2006 after going through surgery and chemotherapy she announced that there had been no recurrence of the disease and as I'm sure we all know thankfully it didn't hold her back at all she's still an absolute superstar go you Kylie and Tom Cruise appears on the Oprah Winfrey show where he makes several public pronouncements
Starting point is 00:04:15 about his relationship to actress Katie Holmes and jumps around on the couches while being cheered on by the studio audience oh god meanwhile Carrie Underwood wins the fourth season of American Idol. But never mind all that, because back on this side of the Atlantic, we had Eurovision taking place in Kiev in Ukraine. Oh. This year's contest was won by Greece, represented by Helena Paparizou and her song, My Number One, fittingly.
Starting point is 00:04:43 The United Kingdom's entry was Touch My Fire by Javine, but it only got as high as 22nd place out of 24. It ended up with just 18 points, but that was still enough to place it above France with 11 and Germany with four. I haven't actually watched this. I do usually try and watch them before we do the news reports, but I did watch Eurovision Making Your Mind Up,
Starting point is 00:05:09 which was the kind of qualifiers for the Eurovision. And it was kind of formality this year because Javine, clearly the biggest star, and Touch My Fire was the obvious choice on the day. But we had this hour-long show um it had like i had a casting a casting panel like a judge panel like bruno tonioli jonathan ross natalie cassidy and paddy o'connell and some expertise there absolutely and so there were five songs on this show so Javine Touch My Fire
Starting point is 00:05:48 was the first one then you had Brand New Day by Trick or Lore who were kind of a shaking ill devo like that kind of popera
Starting point is 00:05:57 that was big at the time it didn't do anything then you had a song called Flashback by Gina G yes that Gina G the one who actually won Eurovision. So she was there, but she got a slay thing from the judges. And that was followed by Guardian Angel by Andy Scott Lee.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Andy Scott Lee. Andy Scott Lee, brother of step-singer Lisa Scott Lee and formerly of 3SL 3SL sorry about that do you know I actually remember Touch My Fire
Starting point is 00:06:30 I remember how that goes which is like I guess it was quite good if I remember that 18 years on but yeah
Starting point is 00:06:37 whatever happened to Javine eh well whatever happened to Javine whatever happened to the 5th entry Katie Price with her song
Starting point is 00:06:44 Not Just Anybody wow this song finished second place on the night so there's an alternate universe where the UK Eurovision entry for 2005 was Katie Price god just coming back to Javine for a second do you have either have you seen that whole thing on Nevermind the Buzzcocks between Jamelia and Javine? I have. It's just the funniest thing ever where Javine's not there but Jamelia she calls Javine a slag and then is called out on it and she just
Starting point is 00:07:14 laughs and laughs and laughs and goes she really is a slag though. It's so so funny. They have this beef between the two of them that Jamelia hates Javine for some reason and it's very funny. Yeah, anyway, that's my main memory of her. Andy, how are the UK album charts looking right now?
Starting point is 00:07:32 Yes, so where we left off last week at the start of May, so Akon is back in at number one for one week with his album Trouble. If only we had an opportunity to discuss Akon. Sadly, that's not to be. But one week later, we get a brand new artist with their very first number one album. It is, of course, the legend that is Steve Brookstein
Starting point is 00:07:53 with Heart and Soul, his album of covers that goes to number one for one week and went gold. Just went gold. Yeah. But he got a number one album, that's something always believe in your soul yeah
Starting point is 00:08:08 anyway, that's only got one week at the top before it's replaced by Forever Faithless the greatest hits of Faithless of course, which went number one for just one week again and went four times platinum and then we get a big, big new one
Starting point is 00:08:25 at the top of the charts, which it does only do one week at number one, but it's very influential. Definitely will be mentioned again on this podcast. And it went six times platinum. It is Demon Days by Gorillaz straight in at number one there, which is a bit of a classic.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I think we'll all agree. Produced Feel Good Inc. and Dare and all sorts of others that I remember very, very well. And then one week at the top for Don't Believe the Truth by Oasis. Again, if only we had an opportunity to discuss Oasis. And that went three times platinum, was number one for just one week. So there's only one thing that was at number one for more than one week during this period and it's the second highest selling album of the year
Starting point is 00:09:10 that went nine times platinum it is x and y by coldplay which produced quite a few hit singles fix you talk speed of sound all came off that album but nine times platinum only one album sold more than that that was released in 2005 and we will be covering that next week I will talk more about Demon Days when we get to a later number one but I will quickly mention
Starting point is 00:09:38 that was the first album I ever bought on CD with my own money which is a good starting point I think who knew that 11 year old me was such a tastemaker on CD with my own money. Wow. Which is a good starting point, I think. Yay. Who knew that 11-year-old me was such a tastemaker? God. I don't know if I've ever told this story before,
Starting point is 00:09:57 but I went to CEX to buy Demon Days years later. I didn't buy it until 2010. And instead of the disc for Demon Days, inside it had three discs of the first Gorillaz album. No Demon Days, but three copies of Gorillaz. Wow, what a funny little thing. Yeah, very odd, very odd. And I took it back and they thought I was joking. It's like, no, you've given me three of a different album.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Lizzie, how are things in the US? Well, after Hollaback Girl spent four weeks at number one, Mariah Carey came back and scored her 16th US number one single with We Belong Together. It spent, get this, 14 non-consecutive weeks at number one. And to date, it is tied as the sixth longest running number one song in US chart history. But it's crap.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yeah, that album, that Emancipation of Mimi is like, that song are just the biggest deal in the States. They really are, yeah. That song is so crap though. I mean, the song did well over here as well, but it was held at the number two spot by two different songs we'll be covering in our next episode. Yeah. But for now, I'm going to go over two albums It was held at the number two spot by two different songs we'll be covering in our next episode.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Yeah. But for now, I'm going to go over two albums. And because this is another fairly long period, I'll just run through the following one weekers and their UK peak positions first. So we have Devils and Dust by Bruce Springsteen, also got to number one in the UK. With Teeth by Nine Inch Nails, number one in the uk with teeth by nine inch nails number three in the uk stand up by dave matthews band failed to chart in the uk mesmerized by system of a down number two
Starting point is 00:11:35 in the uk out of exile by audio slave number five in the uk one more week for the emancipation of mimi by mariah care, which I mentioned last week. And finally this week, we have Coldplay, who spent three weeks at number one with X&Y. The album debuted at number one on the Billboard 200 with 737,000 copies sold in its first week, despite competitions from new albums by the Black Eyed Peas,
Starting point is 00:12:06 the White Stripes and Shakira. It was eventually certified three times platinum in the US and, as Andy's already mentioned, it got to number one in the UK as well. But yeah, Coldplay beating competition from Monkey Business by the Black Eyed Peas is huge. That album was everywhere. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if they were really big in the us before that point but it seems like that was their big us breakthrough around that time that you started
Starting point is 00:12:30 hearing them like as a common pop culture thing in us stuff whereas i think they'd been considered like a british export up until then and then they really made the leap and they are bloody everywhere from that point on oh yeah thank you both very much for those reports. And we're going to move on to our songs this week. And the first one up is this. Lonely, I'm still lonely I have nobody for my own I'm so lonely, I am so lonely.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I'm Mr. Lonely. I have nobody. For my own, I am so lonely. Y'all, this one here goes out to all my players out there, man. You know, I that one good girl, dawg, that's always been there, man Like, took all the bullshit But then one day she came takin' her more and decided to leave Yeah, I woke up in the middle of the night And I noticed my girl wasn't by my side
Starting point is 00:13:40 Could've sworn I was dreamin', for her I was feinin' So I had to take a little ride backtracking on these few years trying to figure out what I do to make it go bad because ever since my girl left me my whole life came crashing and I'm so lonely so lonely Mr. Lonely, I have nobody to call my own girl So lonely, Mr. Lonely, I have nobody to call my own girl Okay, this is Lonely by Akon. Released as the second single from his debut studio album titled Trouble, we heard about it before, Lonely is Akon's second single overall to be released in the UK and his first to reach
Starting point is 00:14:34 number one and this is not the last time that we'll be discussing Akon on this podcast. Lonely went straight in at number one as a brand new entry Knocking Tony Christie and Peter Kay Off the top of the charts It stayed at number 1 for 2 weeks In it's first week At number 1 it sold 88,000 copies Beating competition from Mockingbird
Starting point is 00:14:58 By Eminem Which got to number 4 And we're just going to take a brief pause for a second Just going to slow everything down to a stop because I just want to recognise that at number nine this week are my
Starting point is 00:15:14 boys Weezer with Beverly Hills. To date, it is their only UK top ten single and their most successful single in UK chart history. So well done. it is also the last time that they have a top 20 single in the uk because pork and beans only gets to like number 30 in 2008 so bye-bye you know that's your time on the charts done okay normal service resumed
Starting point is 00:15:41 lonely also beat competition from Get Low by Lil Jon, which got to number 10. In its second week at the top, it sold 60,000 copies, beating competition from Feel Good Inc. by Gorillaz. My God, which got to number two. Hate It or Love It by The Game of 50 Cent, which got to number four.
Starting point is 00:16:01 In the Morning by The Cod, which got to number six. And One Word by Kelly Clarkson, which got to number four, In the Morning by The Cod, which got to number six, and One Word by Kelly Clarkson, which got to number nine. What a top ten that is. I know. Feel Good Inc, Hate It or Love It, In the Morning, like, oh, wow. When it was knocked off the top of the charts,
Starting point is 00:16:18 Lonely dropped one place to number two. By the time it was done on the charts, it had been inside the top 100 for 22 weeks, the song is currently officially certified platinum in the UK as of 2023 so Lizzy if you're done with grieving I'm only just about done with grieving
Starting point is 00:16:36 how do you feel about this one? Yeah well I feel like this period we're covering at the minute might be peak ringtone I feel like if you've already covering at the minute might be peak ringtone I feel like if you've already seen the episode title it goes without saying but we'll expand on this later but for now um we have to talk about Akon and yeah I'm I'm not a big fan of this overall like I think the Bobby Vinton sample is nice at first but it quickly grows stale and Akon I don't think has that much
Starting point is 00:17:07 of a presence on the track he's kind of anonymous on it he doesn't really have any memorable moments or lines and he's sort of even his flow is kind of forgettable and it sort of makes the sample the only real memorable thing about it and that is just sort of drilled into your skull like over and over and over again just like complete overexposure by the time you get to the end of the song you're sort of sick of it and this isn't a particularly long song or anything it's just it only has one idea and it does it to death. And by the time you get to like, I think it's one of the last choruses where he goes up into the higher register.
Starting point is 00:17:52 It's like, oh Jesus, stop it. That's not your range. Don't, just, no, come back, come back. But yeah, I mean, that's all I really have to say about the song because it is just kind of one note. And the only other all I really have to say about the song because it is just kind of one note. And the only other thing I really have to say about it is it's funny how this sort of thing has come back around with the rise of TikTok.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Like, much like this kind of ringtone pop, viral TikTok hits have to have that punchy earworm hook that drills its way into your head and refuses to leave without a fight and this kind of sped up sample as hook is something that I've heard a few times in recent years although I'm struggling to name any specific examples other than that cup of coffee for your head song and also that oh no oh no oh no no no no no no well very few of them actually make it to radio it's it well the sped up versions anyway the it's the original tracks that tend to be because at the moment in the charts right now
Starting point is 00:19:00 um well i imagine its moment has probably passed but like cruel summer by taylor swift suddenly had a a big lift oh yeah and loads of people went back and listened to the original and bloody mary um lady gaga that was a big like because they pitched it up slightly and there's one that comes through on tiktok as well where it's i think it's a k-pop girl group and the forget the name of the song but it's like the i'm feeling lonely and everything i love that could hold me now great that one and so yeah it feels this is something that i actually quite appreciate about looking at tiktok from a distance you know because i only very recently downloaded tiktok and like i only look at it from a distance and the only
Starting point is 00:19:43 things i actually watch on TikTok are just these videos of these cats, one of them's called Nimbus and one of them's called Merv and they're both different breeds, slightly different breeds of Siamese and they both just growl and yell all the time, yeah so that's the only thing I do and so watching it from a distance you are
Starting point is 00:20:00 totally right Lizzie that it has taken us back 15 years almost to this like snap era like this ringtone era where the hook has to be quite um well it has to be delivered on phone speakers now phone speakers have obviously developed a lot in the last sort of 18 years but it's still the dynamics are all still the same it's so Yeah, the mids are all really blown out and there's no bass.
Starting point is 00:20:27 It's just like, what someone should do to be really meta is use this song but pitch it up. So you can barely hear the sample. It just sounds like, I don't know, a mouse sort of crossing by. Only audible by dogs. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Yeah, you've beaten me to it with the TikTok thing there, Lizzie. I was definitely, definitely going to say that because what's interesting about this is that there are a lot of songs that we've covered on the show that I've been like, wow, what a throwback. Wasn't this an interesting era for pop music? This is one of the very first that I've been like, yeah, this would definitely get number one today.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Like, this would fit right in to modern culture and there's very few that i can say that with confidence about that we've ever covered um this is yeah i guess it's a cyclical thing but also just that shitty tiktok trend and i will say that that pitching up thing i absolutely despise it I honestly would happily if I was a god my first act would be to wipe it from the planet just oh it's what happens when you've got when you make everyone a content creator
Starting point is 00:21:34 and people don't know what the hell they're doing they just pitch songs off for no reason like we all used to do in QuickTime Player when we were 12 it's just oh awful awful I hate it so much but anyway with this that's kind of you know it so much. But anyway, with this, that's kind of, you know, it's not something you can blame this for. This is kind of the
Starting point is 00:21:49 original Sin. And I think it's probably most people, certainly at the time, it's most people's only exposure to the sample anyway. So it kind of feels a bit more original. I was, I think as normally Rob puts me in first on the first song of the week and i'm quite glad you didn't because i was really not sure what the level is with this one like whether this is considered like a novelty song or whether it's considered good just with an annoying hook or whatever and like i really haven't settled my feelings about it so i was interested to get another view first go on i think it's kind of in the admirably shit sort of realm. Still shit, but it's kind of, you give it a pass, because, like, oh, bless.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah. It's a nice enough idea, and I do actually think it's quite a clever idea, and it's a very, very clever hook, because 20-odd, well, not 20-odd, but nearly 20 years later, everybody still remembers that tune. So it's a very very clever if very annoying hook yeah but um you know so you know i've got to give it credit for
Starting point is 00:22:51 that but other than that it's it's sort of inherently shit to be honest like it's it's it's just very very bad it's just it's a novelty song it it very much tries to not be but the way it was taken and the kind of wave of popularity that it crested on from my memory was kind of that of a novelty song where like this song was a very popular one
Starting point is 00:23:13 with bullies in school because they could just sing it at people who were sat on their own it was just yeah it's like that the Green Day song of American Idiot the nobody likes you that was the same sort of thing where people just took to that.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Kids can be cruel. But yeah, I think just the kind of silliness and harshness of that sample of like, oh, I'm so lonely. It just took off in a way that people didn't really care about the song itself. It was just a funny little sample, very much like the oh no, oh no thing on TikTok. So yeah, it's interesting how these things come around
Starting point is 00:23:46 and how it i imagine most of the people who bought this probably were teenagers around the same age as people who were making those tiktoks now to be honest um but yes looking back on this as an adult it's like oh god i would never choose to listen to this it's not like actively bad but that sample really is so so hard to listen to. It's really annoying and they overuse it so much. I was quite surprised by how little else there is in the song that it's very minimal. It's very bare in terms of production as well. Needs a much heavier bass, needs something to give it a bit more substance. So I was quite underwhelmed by this, but I do have to give it points for the fact that
Starting point is 00:24:26 it was such an earworm that it really, really stuck around. And like I say, it's, you know, nearly 20 years on, everybody still remembers this one very, very well. So I have to give it some points for that, the fact that it is a good central idea, but it's just kind of vaguely laughable, to be honest. So no, it's not my fave, this one. Yeah. You know, it's just kind of vaguely laughable to be honest so no it's not my fave this one you know it's funny while you two have been chatting I've been looking this
Starting point is 00:24:54 up and a year ago there was a YouTube video uploaded just called Akon Lonely sped up it has 2.6 million views see? but yeah there you go it does have a second life um yeah uh when my main thoughts on this is that when we were talking about usher last year i said that quite a lot of american artists around this time were doing the song for the fellas song for the
Starting point is 00:25:20 ladies song for the dance floor structure with their like you know big three singles from each album and so we've had this song for the fellas, Akon, which was locked up they won't let me out with the annoying sample of the jail shutting the noise of the like the bars shutting and locking into place we're about to get his song for the dance floor, which is Belly Dancer, and then in brackets, Bonanza. And right now, we have his song for the ladies, which is Lonely. And it's another one of these artists kind of going for that same, like, you know, just dominate, just corner all three markets at once, and just, you know, go, sort of like, flood the zone as much as you can this leans hard on a lot of hopeless romantic
Starting point is 00:26:09 tropes to really drive the point home the Bobby Vinton sample the chip monkey thing, it does get really rammed down your throat and yeah Lizzie I sort of agree with you that it kind of
Starting point is 00:26:24 distracts from the fact that Akon doesn't really have much to add no in this really well trodden subgenre I don't even think he's that convinced of a singer like he's sort of monotone and sounds kind of more bored than despondent yeah he's very flat
Starting point is 00:26:41 yeah and then like you were saying when he gets into the upper registers and just starts yelling at the end I am nobody yeah it's yeah the sign of someone with limited range attempting to do something
Starting point is 00:26:58 that they can't I don't think it's pie hole material though because I do sort of have to give some credit for like like the hook is annoying but like it's genius because that was what that was what made it sell like that was the thing that that was the hook that was the the thing that kids wanted to listen to again that was what everybody wanted on their phones you know that was it was cool it was this was cool in 2005 it's really hard to know
Starting point is 00:27:28 that it's really hard to look back and think this was actually cool in 2005 because looking back like andy was saying it does seem kind of novelty and sort of silly yeah but like when you're right in the middle of the trend it just seems like like, oh yeah, this guy's like really using, you know, the sample properly. Like, yeah, this is well cool. But yeah, beyond that sort of clever marketing pop gimmick thing, yeah, I'm not a huge fan of this really. It just about misses the pie hole for me. does miss it but only just um i thought i would like this more but i don't unfortunately it's also just kind of unlocked a memory for me that i think initially i thought this was i think she was called sweetie bird
Starting point is 00:28:19 so before before we sat down to record this, I was talking to my husband about what we're going to do this week. He decided to bring up a video compilation of like 20 different Jamster songs. And a few memories were unlocked there. But yeah, the bird was the main one. When I start to move a feed, I can help a field feed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:52 There was a hippo singing The Lion sleeps tonight if you remember that oh jesus yeah with the dog dancing around him yeah yeah and there was like a cute little tiger as well that had its own song um i've forgotten that one already so yeah there were a few even worse were the ones where they just got in some jobbing actors to do like an impression of like so you get like like someone doing an impression of mr teague and it's like i pity the fool who doesn't pick up the phone it's like the first time yeah there was like um text six different numbers to get six quotes from family guy and one of them's like yeah giggity, giggity. One of them's like, the bird is a word. And one of them is like, Peter Griffin's laugh.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And it's just unbelievably basic from a 2023 perspective. But he was cool at the time. The classic of the genre where you texted the number and you got, get back, you bastard. I'll break your legs. I bet there was loads there was probably loads from Little Britain
Starting point is 00:29:47 that's like text like text to this number to get to get I want that one or you know yeah but no bat or only gay in the village
Starting point is 00:29:54 you know it's probably all then isn't there garlic bread get a spoon yeah that'll be seven quid a month please oh dear Get a spoon Yeah that'll be 7 quid a month please
Starting point is 00:30:05 Oh dear Okay Next up is this Calling all the stars to fall And catch the silver sunlight in your hands Come for me and set me free Lift me up and take me where I stand She believes in everything And everyone and you and yours and mine
Starting point is 00:31:02 I waited for a thousand years for you to come and blow me out my mind Hey, I love the stars about to fall So what you say, la la The world around us makes me feel so small La la, if you can hear me call
Starting point is 00:31:43 Then I can say Lila, if I love you, catch me if I fall Okay, this is Lila by Oasis. Released as the lead single from the band's sixth studio album, titled Don't Believe the Truth Lila is Oasis' 20th single overall to be released in the UK and their 7th to reach number one And it's not the last time that we'll be discussing Oasis on this podcast Lila went straight in at number one as a brand new entry knocking Akon off the top of the charts It stayed at number one as a brand new entry knocking Akon off the top of the charts.
Starting point is 00:32:27 It stayed at number one for one week. In its first and only week at number one it sold 75,000 copies, sales are much healthier now downloads are in, beating competition from Don't Funk With My Heart by Black Eyed Peas which got to number three, Hold You Down by Jennifer Lopez and Fat Joe which reached number six, Owner of a Lonely Heart by Max Graham featuring Yes which got to number three hold you down by jennifer lopez and fat joe which reached number six owner of a lonely heart by max graham featuring yes which got to number nine and every day i love you less and less by kaiser chiefs which got to number 10 no when it was knocked off the top of the charts lila fell five places to number six by the time it was done on the charts it had been inside the top 100 for 16 weeks. The song is
Starting point is 00:33:06 currently officially certified gold in the UK as of 2023. So, Andy, I'm so sorry about Kaiser Chiefs, but what do you make of Lila? Oh, I'll get my chance to talk about Kaiser Chiefs, don't you worry. But, yes, Lila.
Starting point is 00:33:22 It's nice to have an Oasis song that's good for once, Lila, it's nice to have an Oasis song. That's good. Quite frankly, because coming in at where we started the show in 2000, we hit a time right when Oasis were going through one hell of a creative slump. You know, you had Be Here Now in the late 90s, which was pretty bad. And then you had Standing on the Shoulders of Giants in 2000s which was pretty bad and then you had standing on the shoulders of giants in 2000 which was utter garbage and then heathen chemistry which is a bit better but the hindu
Starting point is 00:33:53 times which was the single we covered was definitely not its best showing so we've not really had a chance to be all that positive about oasis and it's nice to finally have a good one it's not perfect i don't absolutely love, but it's the first one we've had that I've been like, yeah, that's kind of worthy of being a lead single for an Oasis album, it's kind of worthy of getting number one, not worthy of beating Everyday I Love You Less and Less or Don't
Starting point is 00:34:16 Funk With My Heart, both of which are great but I am still happy this is here because it's good to just have a good one from them at last I do think it has its problems, it's good to just have a good one from them at last um i do think it has its problems it's way too long i would just cut the last minute and a half entirely just stop the song like 3 30 because they've done the last chorus and then they just wind it down and down and down for like a minute and a half because they just seem to be allergic to doing songs that are
Starting point is 00:34:41 less than four and a half minutes long for some reason but um everything else really comes together on this they've actually got a catchy chorus for once they've actually thought about this being a tune that you want to sing along to um that you want to kind of have fun with because my main problem with the hindu times was that this is just kind of like hype music it's just noise of like oh oasis are back and there isn't really anything to grab onto with it. It's just an Oasis song for the sake of it. Whereas with this, it's like,
Starting point is 00:35:09 it's still got that quite exciting feeling of like that building sound throughout. But also it's catchy. It's got a good chorus and it's about something relatively simple. You know, it's basically a love song. So yeah, I liked this. I think it's interesting that, song um so yeah i liked this i think it's interesting that i'm gonna caveat this by saying it's not i know it's not just me who thinks this
Starting point is 00:35:30 because we've talked about this off the air this week but it is weird to think of oasis being still very popular in 2005 where you know we're what like three months away from architect monkeys the kaiser chiefs are already here fighting for place at the top of the charts. You know, it feels weird that Oasis is still big here. And I've been thinking about this and I think that the fact that so many bands exploded onto the scene
Starting point is 00:35:56 right at the point where Oasis disappear from the charts is not a coincidence. And maybe we can get into that more the last time we discuss Oasis. But I basically think they've had an easy ride with getting to number one with some of these songs and as soon as more mainstream bands are available to people Oasis quickly lost some of their relevance but anyway this is still the glory days for them and I quite enjoy this I don't think it's anything
Starting point is 00:36:21 special it's nowhere near you know the mid-90s days, but it's all right. I quite appreciated a seeming reference to the opening riff of She's Electric at the outro of this. I'm quite a fan of that kind of self-reference, to be honest, and they've been doing it for long enough now that they can get away with it. Yeah, this gets a broad thumbs up from me and, like I say, I think I'm just being nicer about it than I should be, just because it's like, oh good, it's an Oasis song that doesn't make me want to throw them in the
Starting point is 00:36:51 bloody sea. So, yeah, it's good. I like this. Oh, cool. Lizzie, how about you? This is fine. I mean, okay, I am the resident Oasis disliker of the group, but I think even I would have to admit that this is better than their previous two entries on this podcast, where to me they sounded kind of disjointed and out of time. which isn't a bad thing at all after the last eight years or so we've seen them trying to do like a more psychedelic sort of ambitious like stadium sound with mixed results shall we say
Starting point is 00:37:34 this is more like straightforward glam stomper it's more like think slayed rather than the Beatles it's Oasis in kind of undistilled form like it's big it's loud it's stupid it's catchy and it's rock and roll and like I criticized the stereophonics in the last episode for making a song that was just a sound and I could maybe level the same accusation at Oasis here but I think that kind of obnoxious swagger that Oasis have works in their favour in this regard. It's easy to listen to this and imagine them describing the meaningless lyrics as well it's just rock and roll man but that's always kind of been their thing and i'd rather they take ownership of that than try to make out that their message is somehow more important or worthy than that and i mean like going going back to the song there are obvious problems for me it's also a bit too
Starting point is 00:38:40 long it does get a bit cacophonous towards the end um i didn't like the self-reference to she's electric because it just seems like you kind of rest it just seems like you're resting on your laurels a bit and and the song was already a bit long in the tooth by that point but i would say at least in the last minute or so the Gallagher brothers do wisely decide to just shut the fuck up and let the expensive production do the talking rather than bellowing all over it like Kelly Jones throwing a tantrum at the end of Dakota.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Oh, gosh. Yeah. And, like, this album, Don't Believe the Truth, it seems like a bit of a controversial one even still but just going back to the time i was looking at some old reviews earlier it seems like there's a fairly even divide between critics who thought it was a return to form critics who thought it was a mixed bag and and critics who saw it as like the final nail in the coffin for a band that had been going through the motions for almost a decade at this point and i definitely think that this and the next oasis single are two of the better songs from that album but to me this seems like oasis
Starting point is 00:40:01 settling into being part of rock heritage rather than being the sound of now. Like the next phase of British rock music is already well underway at this point. If you look at the charts from this time, like I put up a post on Twitter the other day, like you look at sort of the bottom reaches of the top 40, you see like the Kooks, the Futureheads, Hot Hot Heat, Morning Runner.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Editors are there. The the strokes are still knocking about okay they're not british but it is the sound that british rock is kind of moving towards then this is all already underway uh the libertines have been and gone but we get a lot of new music and new sounds as a result of that. And as you say, Andy, we won't encounter it for a couple of episodes yet, but by the time that does happen, this song feels like it's already a decade old and it feels less like a triumphant comeback than it does a last hurrah. Well, it was their last hurrah. I mean, it's kind of a retrospective thing, I guess, than it does a last hurrah well it was their last I mean it's kind of a retrospect thing I guess but it was their last hurrah because dig out your soul their last album was pretty meh to be honest it's interesting what you say about the divisive opinions on this
Starting point is 00:41:16 because on the album I mean because um I think what a lot of fans and critics and even modern day listeners struggle to grasp with Oasis is that they kind of stopped being an albums band by this point, to be honest. That they have pretty strong singles and then a lot of their albums are just total filler. Like, total, total filler. And that never used to be the case. They used to really overstuff their albums and have a lot of stuff on there like she's electric wasn't even a single and that took off you know just on the back of of how much people like that and um it's the opposite now where they've got they've got a few decent songs and then they're packing the album with basically sketches to be honest so people are having to judge the albums on the singles which is a very
Starting point is 00:42:02 hard thing to do and um there are different type of bands now than they were in the 90s for sure yeah yeah and i suppose this was the time when you couldn't really just be a singles band i think if anything it's more common now that like a band will just put out a load of singles one by one and then they might release an album some of the songs might be on it some of them might not but yeah it's it's more easy to be in that kind of i'm thinking of a band like t-rex where it is largely singles they will put out albums but the singles like i say won't necessarily be on it so you have to buy the single because there's no guarantee you're going to get it again yeah yeah yeah i do
Starting point is 00:42:46 think that um don't believe the truth and dig out your soul or a bit of an upward curve from standing on the shoulder of giants and heathen chemistry but that's not saying much really i actually think don't believe the truth is is generally pretty solid um compared especially compared to the previous two albums because i think you know of course you've got um lila and obviously uh importance of being an importance of being an idol which we've got coming up next but also like you know turn up the sun and you know um god guess god thinks i'm able and there was another song they had around at this time as well and there was let there be love but there was also the um lord don't slow me down was okay um but
Starting point is 00:43:32 i totally agree lizzie that this is oasis beginning to settle into their place in history a little bit i actually think that that's what benefits don't believe the truth because of their later period albums don't believe the truth feels like the one with the least weight on its shoulders it just kind of is what it is dig out your soul i think they kind of knew that was going to be the last album because they were just falling out with each other and they could barely stand to be in a on a stage together at all noel's gearing up for high flying birds who are like basically just a softer pop rock version of oasis basically if you think about aka what a life and the songs that they did they even reference oasis as well um and there's so there's little things like that.
Starting point is 00:44:25 And I think that Don't Believe the Truth is Oasis beginning to kind of soften towards the end and, you know, take a bit of the pressure off, which benefits, I think, Lila, you know, like cards on the table. This is probably my favorite Oasis song since the 90s. You know, I think for the first time since Definitely Maybe, they just openly acknowledge and display that their actual influences are noisy glam groups from the 70s.
Starting point is 00:44:55 You just want to have a bit of fun. Like, you know, this sounds loud and rambunctious and high on life in a way that the Hindu Times just kind of felt like it was shooting for but didn't quite get you know like because the lyrics are just sort of about you know when i get so high i just can't feel it but it's just so plodding and stuck in the mud a little bit it felt like it was walking through treacle a little bit and it was hard to really believe what he was saying because i feel like a lot of oasis's songs from a lyrical perspective especially in this later era they're all about just like amazement like you know just like waking up in the morning and looking at the
Starting point is 00:45:38 sun and going for look at that you know like that's the sunshine yeah like that's kind of... The sunshine. Yeah, exactly. That's all Oasis' songs are really about. It's like looking at a thing, be it a person, the world, drugs, life, whatever, and then just sort of going, yeah, that feels amazing. And it kind of grates on me during, like, their middle era. You know, like, even a song of theirs from Be Here Now that i really actually quite love which is um all around the world like their lyrics are all just about like
Starting point is 00:46:10 spread the message have have a good time you know that sort of thing you know all around the world gotta spread the word tell them what you heard you know it's like you know there's a good thing happening get involved and a lot of them seem to be like these kind of stream of consciousness expressions of elation or sudden relief and i think like one of their better later era songs which is on the next album which was shock of the lightning um it's another one of those things where it's like you know wake up in the early morning feel the shock of the lightning like Like, you know, it's just like, oh, a thing has happened. Everything's changed. Isn't it amazing? And this feels like it manages to benefit from taking that feeling, but just
Starting point is 00:46:55 applying it to something actually relatable and human for once, which is just like, hey, isn't this person amazing? Like, you know instead of liam gallagher painted all these like non-sequitur metaphors that don't mean anything like things like just you know go let it out like go like what out you know it's just i feel like that's what oasis songs are constantly trying to capture just this feeling of needing to go yeah and because it's actually about something lila feels like it's slightly grounded in reality and humanity and it means that you can connect with it and have a bit of fun with it and yeah i'm sure a person makes you feel this way for any particular reason i don't think there's any kind of um romantic undertones to this either so you know
Starting point is 00:47:43 it could be about literally actually just on Popmaster yesterday there was a woman who phoned up and said that she named her daughter after this song and I think a player at the time as well for Manchester City
Starting point is 00:48:01 my team was Richard Dunn and he named his daughter Lila as well after this and because I think it is just this kind of like you know you're looking at a person and you're just sort of like well you're amazing and it could be a girlfriend, boyfriend, son, daughter, anybody and I like the fact that it's just kind of like nice and broad but human and so lyrically I kind of have fun with this and understand this in a way that the majority of oasis is kind of like post definitely maybe material just kind of glazes over me a little
Starting point is 00:48:31 bit it just kind of you know i like the singles from um definitely made from sorry from what's the story but the album as a whole i feel is kind of lacking compared to its reputation i feel like you know considering it's one of the biggest selling albums of all time in the uk i went into it a few years ago like you know just expecting something you know pretty phenomenal and i was just kind of struck by how much more i prefer the just kind of the noise of definitely maybe and i feel like this is the closest they can get to the noise of definitely maybe um with you know within sort of like convention you know 2000s pop conventions as opposed to the 90s i will say this is also a bit like the hindu times slightly plodding
Starting point is 00:49:18 and too long you know it trudges slightly when it should be skipping in some places i feel like but oasis aren't really a band who are light on their feet generally i think andy you know you were saying and lizzie that these bands coming in like arctic monkeys the strokes um you know a few others that are going to define like the next sort of three or four years of british rock they're younger they're more energetic they play licks as opposed to riffs, you know, they like, you know, they play with a kind of speed and they're nimble in a way that Oasis aren't anymore. And to be fair, Oasis were never nimble, that was never their thing, it was just like, you know, make as much noise and spread it as far as you possibly can. They weren't really about the particulars of doing scales like arctic monkeys kind of come along and do. But I think the blood that
Starting point is 00:50:12 runs through this feels like it's coming from somewhere genuine, and I think that's what I like about it. I think the Oasis here, they acknowledge that they're always much more fun when they're trying to be slayed rather than anybody else. And yeah, so I'm broadly into this. I do have nice memories of this. I have tried to source. Unfortunately, I couldn't find it. At college in 2011, 2012, we all had to make music videos for media studies and a friend of mine at the time on the course asked me to be in the video with him for Lila by Oasis and it's
Starting point is 00:50:55 really a shame that it isn't around anymore because I'm in the video with hideously long black hair playing guitar or pretending to play guitar in the background while um my friend does the absolute best liam gallagher impressions you've ever seen the whole thing is meant to be like a little comedy thing because he loved oasis but he loved making fun of them too and there's this fantastic shot at like the second chorus or something i seem to remember where i remember we set the camera up on a tripod right in front of a lift in our school building and the doors were shut for absolutely ages in the video and then the doors slightly open and he's got sunglasses the proper manchester
Starting point is 00:51:38 haircut um with the long sort of like you know sideburns down the side of the head um with a big parker jacket on and he walks out in that liam gallagher way right up to the camera it's really funny it's like him just going about his day but doing liam gallagher walks wherever he possibly can it's very very funny um but yeah nice memories of this one not vault material but the closest oasis get on this podcast i think the mention of Arctic Monkeys is really funny because you mentioned that this is like 11 years between Definitely Maybe and Don't Believe the Truth.
Starting point is 00:52:13 It's kind of like if on Tranquility Base Hotel and Casino they'd just done Mardi Bomb again. It's a really funny thought. Like, all this experimental stuff isn't working. Let's just go back to that sound we did in 2006. But this is what I mean about how a band like that can sort of grow and morph into a different thing entirely, albeit with a lot of the same DNA.
Starting point is 00:52:39 As much as, you know, Tranquility Base and The Car Aren't Perfect, there's more to that than there is to something like this, where it's kind of admitting defeat and holding your hands up and saying, OK, we'll just play the songs you like. Yeah, I sort of agree with that one, because as much as I just find AM to be... Oh, me too. Don't like it at all. am to be oh me too don't like it at all i was lightly impressed only slightly impressed by uh tranquility base and the two singles from the car were great i love the two singles from the car
Starting point is 00:53:15 um but then obviously they have this kind of languid state now arty were playing their old material at Glastonbury at like 75% speed not really sure if that came across very well our third and final song this week is this what's going on?
Starting point is 00:54:58 This is the crazy rock! Thank you. ស្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែលាប់ប្រូវតែល Okay, this is Axl F by Crazy Frog. Released as the lead single from its debut studio album titled Crazy Hits, Axl F is Crazy Frog's first single to be released in the UK and its first to reach number one. This is the last time we'll be discussing Crazy Frog on this podcast. The song is a cover of the Harold Faltermeyer song which reached number two in 1985. Axl F went straight in at number one as a brand new entry knocking Oasis off the top of the charts. It stayed at number one for four weeks. In its first week atop the charts it sold 149,000 copies, beating Competition from Speed of Sound by Coldplay which got to number two, One Thing by A. Marie which got to number two one thing by amory in week two it sold 120 000 copies beating competition from best of you by food fighters
Starting point is 00:55:55 which got to number four in week three it sold 72 000 copies beating competition from city of blinding lights by2 which got to number two. In its fourth and final week atop the charts, it sold 52 thousand copies beating competition from Shot You Down by Audio Bullies vs Nancy Sinatra which climbed to number three. When it was knocked off the top of the charts, Axl F dropped one place to number two. By the time it was done on the charts, it had been inside the top 100 for 17 weeks. The song is currently officially
Starting point is 00:56:29 certified platinum in the UK. As of 2023, Andy, take it away. Well, when you say take it away, do you mean you want me to go, ah, bing, bing, bing, bing? No, you know what, I'm not going to do it. Take it out and shoot it.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Go let it out and don't let it back in. By the way, am I the only one who now forever associates Crazy Frog with Jay from The Inbetweeners? For me, that's like the Crazy Frog moment in pop culture. But anyway, yes. It's a little bit like Amarillo last week, isn't it? That this is a bit of a pop culture thing that happened rather than a song
Starting point is 00:57:08 I think this one more so though because it's not about the song at all, it's just about the fact that we all kind of fell in love with this stupid weird looking frog who doesn't look like a frog at all who was pretending to ride a motorbike in midair we all kind of
Starting point is 00:57:24 just fell in love with that and put cash money down on that for some reason. And then we added some 80s music to it and did it again for four weeks. And then they released a PS2 game, and we all bought that as well. And they released an album, and we bought that too. No, we didn't really.
Starting point is 00:57:43 It was the Crazy Frog Racing, wasn't it? But people did. It existed existed people did buy it but anyway crazy frog is a little bit of a thing of shame for our generation to look back on i think but uh you know i mean every generation has its really cringy things like our parents had the likes of max headroom and stuff like that and then we've got crazy frog And then the kids underneath us, they've got like Baby Shark and stuff like that. These things come around, you know. But what do you want me to say?
Starting point is 00:58:12 It's Crazy Frog. I mean, I think a lot of people will be expecting us to slate this as like the worst thing we've ever had on the show. And it's not that bad because the original XLF is perfectly decent. You know, it's a nice song. I do think that, for our generation, this is one of those covers that has wholesale replaced the original.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I don't think it's possible to listen to the Harold Faltermeyer original and not go ding-ding at the end of the line, to be honest. So that's a bit of a shame. But the actual song, if you were to take out the crazy frog bits, there's nothing wrong with it at all.
Starting point is 00:58:46 It's just Axl F, it's fine. Adding the frog to it, of course, makes it intensely annoying. And I was never really into it at the time, but I didn't turn my nose up at it at all. It's funny, though, that my memories of Crazy Frog are that it's a little bit like Gabbo from The Simpsons, where it was very quickly very very massive
Starting point is 00:59:07 and then it went away as quickly as it came where it was just a small one two month period where it's crazy frog and then it's gone and it's deader than disco and you do not want to be seen listening to crazy frog once it was gone it was gone
Starting point is 00:59:23 so now it's like a source of mockery. But it wasn't a source of mockery at the time. People were genuinely enjoying it as an early meme, really. People were just enjoying Crazy Frog. But now, you wouldn't even hear it at family parties or anything now, would you? It's so far in the novelty basement
Starting point is 00:59:41 that it's locked in some cellar and we'll never ever let it out. It's absolute trash trash to be honest but it's not that bad it's not that bad it's just i'll never ever choose to listen to it ever again i get how that makes it sound bad but we've had worse just about we've had four or five worse i think think. Yeah, got nothing left to say. It's crazy. Frog, what do you want? Lizzie, how about you? Yeah, you've pretty much summed it up. I did actually kind of look into why, because I know the feeling at the time.
Starting point is 01:00:18 It felt like it was everywhere and then it was nowhere. Right? As in this sort of time, like May, June 2005. Turns out I did actually find something about this. So around this time, May 2005, viewers inundated the ASA with complaints regarding the airing of the Crazy Frog adverts. So according to The guardian jams to bought
Starting point is 01:00:47 get this almost 75 000 spots across all tv channels in may alone that is an average of nearly 2378 slots daily at a cost of about 8 million, just on the half of which was spent on ITV. So we have a couple of stats here. 87% of the population saw the Crazy Frog advert an average of 26 times. 15% of the adverts appeared twice during the same ad break. And 66% were in consecutive ad breaks. An estimated 10% of the population saw the advert more than 60 times. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:30 It really is. It's this absurd marketing campaign. Yeah. It worked, sure. Everybody who was around at the time who had access to a television or the internet, they knew about this. But what happened was in sort of mid-september 2005 the asa the advertising standards authority i think ruled that um crazy
Starting point is 01:01:56 frog along with other like jamster ringtone ads could not be shown before 9pm, which killed it dead, because this was the sort of thing that, if you're watching The Box or TMF or any of the others, as a pop kid, which you would have been. Like, it was, you know, instead of, when you grow out of CBBC or CITV, you listen to, like, the music channels instead, if you have access to them. And this was their main
Starting point is 01:02:26 source of well not revenue but as in where you would see those ads like two or three times an ad break and you'd see those ad breaks three or four times an hour so once that finished like you're not watching those channels after nine o'clock because you're either in bed or it's like prime time tv so yeah yeah it kind of killed its stone dead and it explains why it felt for that summer that that kind of spring summer these adverts were everywhere and then they just kind of vanished it's very very interesting i'm glad you mentioned the point about music channels as well because that that is where it was king because i was one of those kids who watched the music channels whenever i could whenever i had control of the tv which was basically like between when i got home while my mum was doing tea so it was
Starting point is 01:03:18 like the hours of about four till six or seven i could have what i wants on the tv and it was always the music channels and i remember it being at the point where it really was every single ad break, every single one where like they'd show other Jamster stuff and like if there was something that my sister had joked about it or something and I'd missed it we'd be like oh it'll be on again in a
Starting point is 01:03:38 few minutes I'll show you then. I actually remember those kind of conversations where it's like it's part of the schedule where it's like a few songs and then they'll show some Jamster stuff like exactly really was absolutely everywhere and eventually made it to itv and stuff and went mainstream but where it was really kings on the music channels where they would just it was like the crazy frog channel on the music channels it was crazy yeah and it wasn't just like you say it wasn't just crazy frog obviously they had other characters and other ips like sweetie bird and that hippo
Starting point is 01:04:06 that you mentioned but they were also intrinsically linked with the charts as in one of their big promotional tactics was to take the latest charts and say you can get the polyphonic ringtones for this song now text such and such to 97113 and it's like £3.50 a week but it's in like the smallest text possible and you're looking at it on some 17 inch tv vhs combo but that's how it hooks you in and it is sort of linked to the culture that way so it's only a matter of time that there's that line becomes crossed and well here we are and i really do you realize i'm not talking about the song because it's just not very good it's crazy frog doing axlf and what's kind of surprising to me is that they're not a one-hit wonder like there's more coming they don't get another number
Starting point is 01:05:05 one but they have at least one of the top 10 they have a i think a christmas top 10 they have they do a world cup song oh no oh yeah as you mentioned they have not one, not two, but three studio albums. They have two video games. And we did this. Goodness me. This is our fault. We had a chance to say no, and yet we played right into his hands. People have a go at millennials for, like, avocado toast and, you know, stuff like that. That's not fair.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Have a go at us for this. This is totally fair. You can have a go at us for this. This was totally fair. You can have a go at us for this. This was all our fault. Yeah. Yeah, we're the generation that signed up to get the Crazy Frog ringtone and we're still paying off the debts to this day. They're still charging us.
Starting point is 01:05:54 We don't know how to cancel it. And the money just keeps coming out of the accounts. I've not got much else to say about the song, but I thought I'd ask the kids of 2005 what they think about the album yes perfect so um the date is the 25th of july 2005 and news round are reviewing crazy frog crazy hits they ask how many good tracks frog fans might get some short-lived pleasure from the dance track but the joke wears thin very, very quickly. Yes, it does.
Starting point is 01:06:27 The top tracks are listed as Actal F, 1001 Nights, and Bailando, and that's being generous, they write. And the weakest track is the Dallas theme and all the rest. The Dallas theme. Why? I don't know. They were just doing it. Why would you put that on there?
Starting point is 01:06:48 That's just beyond scraping the barrel. That's like public domain rubbish, that. That's just stupid. But see, all the kids were into it, you see. So we've got Charlie here. They're eight from Cambridge. They write, I think Crazy Frog should always be at number one
Starting point is 01:07:04 because he is so the best. I am going to get everything he brings out. Charlie, I'm going to find you and I'm going to hold you, sir. You sit there and you listen to your Crazy Frog and you like it. We've also got Rachel 12 from Billericay who writes,
Starting point is 01:07:21 I think Crazy Frog was kind of funny at the time, but I like music with some sort of beat or tune or at the very least a good video so I give this the thumbs down Rachel knows where it's at she's got it she's on the pulse yeah so Jessica 14 from Reading writes
Starting point is 01:07:38 rubbish I only bought it because I liked Axel F 0 out of 5 don't buy it hang on what so she's claiming to, she's being hipster about it she's claiming to have liked it before it was popular was she? Well yeah, she bought the album as well. Sorry, I mean
Starting point is 01:07:53 a 14 year old who like really likes the original Axl F back in 2005, sorry press X for doubt on that one yeah, not sure about that And just to finish us off this week, I really like this one by Ellie, who's 12, from Chester.
Starting point is 01:08:09 They write, These pointless ramblings created by a computer are hopeless and annoying. I would rather listen to a cat being tortured. Oh my God. The joke was old a week after you made the bloomin' thing guys, why are you killing our poor ears?
Starting point is 01:08:29 what? chill out Ellie, you're only 12 Ellie 12 from Chester if you know them call into Crimewatch on 0800 cheer up Ellie all about you was out the other week you've got that, Revenge of the Sephiroth
Starting point is 01:08:44 go and see that, there's good stuff out there Yeah, it's great You're only 12 once Oh god This is fascinating to me and honestly terrible I'm sort of stunned by it looking back
Starting point is 01:09:01 those deafeningly loud synths that just echo off the walls of my skull which has been emptied by it looking back like those definitely loud synths that just echo off the walls of my skull which has been emptied uh by it already the the the bing bing jabbing me in the shoulder with its index finger every few bars like i know it was designed to be annoying hence the name the annoying thing and but just i feel like i'm admitting defeat but like it's got under my skin like i should be so much more grown up about this and more philosophical but oh like it just this thing is delight this thing is designed to delight 11 year old boys and piss off absolutely everybody else like broadly speaking like you sort of have to admire the, like, the precision
Starting point is 01:09:45 engineering of this, because it did exactly what it was supposed to do. They threw so much money at it, and I have to sort of forgive it slightly for sort of being the center of my world when I was, like, 11 for four weeks, you know, but cold light of day,'m just irritated like not by the whole concept but like also like the little ad-libs in the song as well that are like break down and break it break it who are the people doing that? It's like the rapper on Friday
Starting point is 01:10:16 by Rebecca Black it's like who are these people who contribute to this? if you ever had music class at your school you know they had those keyboards yeah DJ DJ DJ DJ DJ dictionary dick dick dick dictionary to this if you ever had music class at your school you know they had those keyboards yeah dj dictionary dick dick dick dictionary yeah yeah and it's like andy you saying before you were mentioning um gabbo my first thought was i didn't do it yeah like just the same kind of because it even has on um lizzie you shared as that clip of its performance on top of the pops
Starting point is 01:10:45 it even has its own the i didn't do it dancers yeah like they just get like six dancers in to do b like break dancing and b-boy into axlf and then there's the whole the whole thing from um i think it's a pop show in like germ or something which is called Balaman or Ballerman and they've got this breakdancer on who's doing like seven consecutive backflips during the um the um the sort of like the second section of it where the crazy frog noise is going like that and you get the second bit coming in the end and then you've got this guy doing seven backflips at once on the spot without like moving his position and meanwhile the guy in the crazy frog suit is just turning slowly in a circle because he's got tunnel vision yeah this massive
Starting point is 01:11:41 crazy frog um suit but the thing that um there's a couple of things i want to mention massive crazy frog suit but the thing that there's a couple of things I want to mention crazy frog has recently released two singles one of them is called tricky and the other one is called a ding ding a ding a dang
Starting point is 01:11:58 and the one thing that I think makes me laugh more than anything these days when it comes to Crazy Frog's Wikipedia page is the controversy section. Because it just says controversies, and then underneath it just says genitals. Oh, yeah, because he's got a willy, hasn't he? Yeah, a number of complaints because it had a visible penis and scrotum, apparently. And I do remember it being censored on some adverts, but not others.
Starting point is 01:12:32 And then when they do this Balaman pop performance in Germany or wherever in 2005, they know that the people who designed the costume, they know that they have to acknowledge that the penis is a part of the people who design the costume they know that they have to acknowledge that it like that the penis is like a part of the character but they can't have like a thing hanging off the costume and so they just have this slight it's like this slight little bump that like protrudes the crotch of the um of the costume and it looks so silly because if you can see the the dilemma that they were caught between the rock and the hard place that they were stuck in well like you know well we need to acknowledge it but we can't acknowledge it too much if you know what i mean like all these stupid conversations they must
Starting point is 01:13:17 have been having backstage but yeah it does um there are three more top ten singles, plus a World Cup song to come from Crazy Frog. Popcorn, Jingle Bells, We Are The Champions, Ding-a-Dang-a-Dong, and Last Christmas, and Last Christmas is the last hit that it has, I guess, to number ten. Oh, I never want to listen to what the hell it does to Last Christmas. That's sacrilege. God. There is a song hell it does to last Christmas. That's sacrilege. God. There is a song
Starting point is 01:13:45 that it does in 2009 that gets to number 18 in France. It is Chatter Slide. Crazy Frog doing Chatter Slide. Did you know as well that Crazy Hits is 20 tracks long?
Starting point is 01:14:01 What? 53 minutes. Intro, Axel F, Popcorn, Wump, there it is. A Thousand and One Nights by Lando. We like to party. Don't You Want Me, which is not the Human League version. It's a totally separate dance thing.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Yeah. Dirty Frog. No. Magic Melody, Pump Up the Jam, In the 80s, whatever The 80s Get Ready For This Pinocchio Wonderland Dallas Theme
Starting point is 01:14:33 Who Let The Frog Out I Like To Move It The Pink Panther Crazy Sounds Acapella I couldn't get through that This got to number 5 in the UK albums chart, by the way. Yeah. Sigh.
Starting point is 01:14:50 So, Andy, are any of the songs going in the vault or the pie hole for you this week? Well, I've got to put Crazy Frog in the vault because it's such an influential part of pop culture. Of course not. Of course not. No, nothing's going in Of course not. No, um... No, nothing's going in there for me this week. I would
Starting point is 01:15:07 maybe have considered putting Lila in the vault, but no, nowhere near good enough, unfortunately. No. It's a middling week for me, this one. Yeah. So, Axel F is going in the pie hole. Uh, oh, sorry, yes, Axel F is going in the pie hole. Yeah. I forgot the punchline
Starting point is 01:15:24 to my joke, which is that, no, it's not in the vault. It's in the pie hole. It's in the frog hole. Let's say that. Lizzie, what about you? Is anything going up or down for you this week? For me, Akon narrowly avoids the pie hole. Very narrowly.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Oasis, not bad, but it's kind of in the middle. Neither here nor there Crazy Frog is motorcycling its way into the pie hole while making some very obnoxious noises Yeah, exactly the same as you Lizzy Lonely just about misses the pie hole, Axel F goes straight in
Starting point is 01:16:01 Lila doesn't go anywhere So thank you very much for listening to this week's episode. Thank you so much. When we come back, we will be continuing our journey through 2005. And we promise next week's going to be nicer than this one. I promise. Because it can't be worse. So we'll see you then.
Starting point is 01:16:18 See ya. Bye. Let me Y'all This one here Goes out to all my players out there, man You know I got that one good girl Daughter's always been there, man Like, took all the bullshit But then one day she came taking them
Starting point is 01:16:35 One decided to leave Yeah I woke up in the middle of the night And I noticed my girl wasn't by my side Could've sworn I was dreaming For her I was fainting So I had to take a little ride Backtracking on these few years
Starting point is 01:16:49 Trying to figure out what I do to make it go bad Cause ever since my girl left me My whole life came crashing and I'm so So lonely, Mr. Lonely I have nobody to call my own, girl So lonely, Mr. Lonely I have nobody to call my own girl. So lonely, Mr. Lonely. I have nobody to call my own girl.

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