Hollywood Handbook - Ally Beardsley, Our Close Friend

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

The Boys talk to ALLY BEARDSLEY about how to keep Dropout sustainable.Check out Ally's podcast Gender Spiral!Get a Hat Pack Hat here!Watch the video of today’s episode at Patreon.com/HollywoodHandbook This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Hollywood Handbook via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. Agent Nate Russo returns in Oracle III, Murder at the Grandview, the latest installment of the gripping Audible original series. When a reunion at an abandoned island hotel turns deadly, Russo must untangle accident from murder. But beware, something sinister lurks in the grand view's shadows. Joshua Jackson delivers a bone-chilling performance in the supernatural thriller that will keep you on the edge of your seat. Don't let your fears take hold of you as you dive into this addictive series. Love thrillers

with a paranormal twist? The entire Oracle trilogy is available on Audible. Listen now on Audible. Listen now on Audible. Now, Ali, do you want to hear the theme song? You have to put your head full on. Oh, yeah. So, Ali wants to hear the theme song, so don't have any- Not those, not those. Can listeners hear the theme song?

Don't do those, don't do those headphones. Those ones actually, yeah. Those are, they're not bad. You know what I mean? But they're not good. They just won't have their face. Well, I'm looking at these and I'm kind of like... Here, so I've got... They all stretch. They're all really stretchy.

Okay, great. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. I... Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, so, Alan wants to hear the theme song. Now.

I'd love to hear it. I'd love to hear it. No reaction. So far no reaction at all. And it's just like, I don't need like a whole, I don't need a whole show. Overdoing it? I need you to be doing cartwheels or whatever. Just a little recognition of like somebody worked really hard on the video song. Yes. wheels or whatever. Just a little recognition of like, somebody worked really hard on the song. And it is art.

I mean, as much as people wanna dismiss something that is as low brow and common as a podcast intro theme song, actually a real musician who worked on that for us. I don't know if you do music. I don't. It doesn't matter. It shows. Either way.

It shows. Either way. Yeah, we don't know what you do. Either there's the respect of not understanding that person's work and everything that goes into it. Totally. Or there is the respect of the shared appreciation. I'm curious why you guys think I don't respect it.

I really liked it. I thought it felt kind of. Okay. So here's what I do when I like a song. Just so you can see this is what I do when I like a song. Should we put headphones on? Actually, should we play the theme song? I think it's pretty common actually.

Okay, okay. The reaction that I have when I like a song. You know, it's my theme song obviously I like. It's my favorite song. Okay, so I'm wearing the headphones that you were, just to go, do you, sorry, stop the theme song? Mm-hmm. So, Ali had these headphones on.

Yeah, and so. And I'm now wearing these. I'm glad that it wasn't these. You had an issue with those potentially. Yes, and I'm having one right now. So, I don't think there's any way to get these ones to you. You're really stretchy. I don't think there's any way to get these ones to you.

They're really stretchy. Let me come over there for you. Let me come over there and we'll each take one. Get over here. Let's do one of these. Okay, should I be over here so I can really see how you react? Yeah, well now I'm wondering if I'm gonna be able

to react right while we're sharing these. You should go out, because you have to do this. Just like you're doing it. Yeah, okay. All right. Ugh! Okay. Uh-huh.

There. Let's go! Don't fucking stop! And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, again, but in general, when I like a song. You hit repeat. Oh, run it back. Yeah. You know what I mean? It doesn't matter what kind of song it is. It could be a podcast theme song. It could be... And that's mostly what I listen to.

Like that's probably the primary genre. Just the serial theme song over and over again. The serial one is, that hits. That hits. The serial one, I mean I'm actually like, I don't know if you encounter this, sometime I've almost used it up. I can't get the juice out of the song anymore.

Yeah. You know what I mean? A minute passes and you're like, oh I'm listening to it again. Like you don't savor each moment. I just burn it out and I'm going like, I can't listen to it again because it's gonna be like,

it's not gonna have the power anymore. Totally. Like I'm gonna have to, you know, like find something else and I should be saving this for, let's say I had a big meeting or a big podcast recording, like you have today. And I'm like, I really need something to like get that adrenaline pumping and get me in the zone but I go to put on the cereal

theme song yeah and it's nothing. Doesn't have my name in it. It's empty. That one yeah Richard Gere and Rupert Grint mm-hmm and Meg Ryan. Are you saying Rupert or Rupert? Okay, and so some of the clues are starting to- Are you saying Rupert? I just wanna get clarity. Rupert. You're saying Rupert? Rupert. Rubearb Grint. Rubearb Grint. Rupert Grint.

Yeah. I'm just- Because of the red. Was it- Rubearb isn't even red. Rubearb, it's half red. People think it is because it's next to the strawberry. Rubearb Grinch. That part, don't eat that part. Don't eat the red part. Whoa. Wait, really? Rube bird Grinch. That part, don't eat that part. Don't eat the red part.

Whoa, wait, really? Yeah, do not eat that. Rude bird Grinch. Rude bird. Rude bird Grinch. Rude bird. No, this is just an idea. Ali, you're comedic.

You work in the field of comedic performance. It's dropout. Am I saying that right? Am I getting that right? Because you do a lot of shows. We do a lot of shows. It's dropout, I'm saying that right? We do a lot of shows and even more coming.

Yeah, it's dropout. You do even more coming than you do shows? We do so much coming at drop out. I got I got an idea. I got an idea for actually, as I say, am I saying that right? I got an idea for another way to say it. When the plug dry up, I got that dro pout. Right. Yeah, when the dro pout, when the plug dro pout, I got that dro pout. And he makes Drove out. When the plug, I got that dro-pout.

And then you make a face like, uh-huh. Yeah. I got that dro-pout. Oh, the plug dried out. Yeah, the plug dried out, right? When the plug dried out. Damn, dude. I got that dro-pout.

Plug's dead. Lost my connect. And so I'm pouting, right? That's what happened. I got a frowny face. Yeah, I guess I did. Because I don't got my dro. The plug died.

Yeah, the plug, oh, whoa. Whoa. I mean, now it's denied. Well, no, that's what happened. The brownie. Yeah, I died because I don't got my dro. The plug died. Yeah, the plug. Oh, well, well, no, that's what. Well, that's interesting. Actually, that would be a major pout because then I'm also mourning my friend. Yeah. You know, and it's complex. You know, you end up feeling like friends because I don't know about you, but you watch them play guitar so much.

Yeah. When I go to pick up, it's like, you want to burn one right now? And it's like, I just... Like getting it for me, not for you, but I'm getting it from you. And then it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do it. And then, you know, they're like, oh, I'll pack it. They're pretty generous with the pack. They are.

On my shit. That I just bought. I think you got more back there. And then- Wait, wait, wait. They're like, you want to burn one and they dip into the bag you just bought? For real? That's kind of crazy.

For real? Yeah, well let's do it, right? I don't think you were friends. I know, you just got a fresh bag. So then they're packing it fat, tight, you know what I mean? Can't even breathe. And they're not mowing the lawn.

Fucking, the Zippo goes straight in the center of the bowl. And so when the time I hit, I'm already getting the fucking ash and shit. And they don't clean their piece. I gotta smoke out of their pipe. Disgusting. Ugh, ugh. It's like, I I got this pristine,

and I got it right in the car. It's like, oh, I'll go get my thing. They go, why? It's like, why? Because your shit's nasty. Yeah. It's fucking resin, dog. And I got a tomahawk bubbler.

This is your speech at the funeral? I'm talking about how, well, you asked if we were friends, and I'm going, you start to feel like friends, and by the way. It was nice at that point. With your friends, sometimes you do notice these picadillos, right? They have these idiosyncrasies,

and you do start to associate those with that person. You think, oh, I don't like this person because I know these negative things. In some ways, that is connection. Yeah, that is. I'm going to know the plug well enough, right? To understand like, yeah, they've got some flaws. And by the way, I think I do too guilty.

Like, sorry. Is that wrong? Can I say that? Yeah, I've got some things that are, you know, not perfect always that I wish I could change, right? I don't react great to songs always. I would say that. I don't always necessarily express. Yeah.

Since he did share his flaws, yeah. If you wanna share some of yours. I do, I am not a external person when it comes to music. I gotta take it all in, and maybe I look kinda like judgmental in the process. It's rude, huh? I was truly the whole time thinking, is this Charlie XCX, and how did they do this?

Wow. So in there, it was bumpin' for real, huh? It was bumpin' for real. I'll tell Annalise Sheersh that you said that and I was jealous to be quite frank I was like this is even not doing music at all. That was the first song you heard No, no, I was jealous of you forgetting the song. I was like, wow, this is such a this is a zag And it has our name, you know, which is incredibly at the end after Sean Penn then it's your name. How much do you? The end after Sean Penn then it's your name how much you have

So that that that was the Sean Penn in the song I don't I actually thought that was supposed to be you It's rude bird grin and then it's Sean Penn. Oh Fuck. Oh, I really thought that was supposed to be yeah, cuz they only say Sean they don't say that Sean Penn And I've been thinking that they're They don't say, Sean, they don't say pen. That's Sean Penn? That fucking sucks, dude. And this whole time I've been thinking that they introduced me. Here comes Hayes and Sean Penn. Oh, the pen is so quiet. There's a quiet pen at the end.

It sounds like bass. Maybe we shouldn't have given you the good headphones. Damn, damn. Damn, damn, damn. Speaking of pen, when the plug wants to hit the vape pen that you came in with, you're like, yo, this is mine. Like I brought it, like we just packed a bowl right out of my back.

I got it out of my pocket that has a zipper on it. But it's one of the pens that says a feeling on it. That's pretty funny. Yeah, the pen is right here. When the plug says that, it's pretty funny. No, the plug got a sense of humor. I think they own their stuff a little bit. They know, they got you over a barrel

because when the plug dries up, you're gonna have that drop out. Yeah. Drop out. What are some of your theme songs? What are some of the theme songs on Dropout is what we initially asked. That's a great question.

The shows that you're doing, don't be like dipping into other people's theme songs. Well, even more so than that, Ali, just for the movement of this conversation, because I think we're gonna be doing it for a little while. I'm feeling that too. So we're on the same page about that. I think we're gonna, I think we'll stick with it.

Yes, I think for sure. I think we'll stick with it, but I wanna say when Hayes asks a question, he's asking it because it's a great question. You didn't need that part. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's polite in a way.

Are you apologizing for your... Well, no, you said that's a great question. Oh. I know you're trying to help. So you went, that's a great question. And it's, I know it seems polite, but it actually... No, you're that's a great question. Oh, I know you're trying to help you went That's a great question, and it's I know it seems polite, but it actually no you're right You're right it implies the existence of a bad question that Hayes might ask no. It's true And if they're like different kind of I can leave them at the door And I know you're talking about that came out. I know you're talking to the audience mm-hmm. You know that's what you're yeah

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're delivering a message to an audience and saying hey audience. That know, that's what you're, you're Yeah, yeah, yeah. performance. You're delivering a message to an audience and saying, Hey audience, that's a great question. They actually know that. Yeah, we can be normal. This isn't a normal interview. I don't have to be all nice and nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need the niceties outside the door with the purple Ugg boots that you wore in before you

changed. I saw you take them off in the middle of the way. They're monsters limited. I saw you take them off in the middle of the way. They're monsters ink. Then put, I don't know the IP, but I'm looking forward to it. Yeah. Okay. What was the question? Some of these dropout theme songs.

Some of your theme songs. Oh, the theme songs. Yeah, some of my theme songs. There's not a lot of theme songs, unfortunately. There's kind of like, I think royalty-free music that will play, unfortunately there's kind of like i think royalty free music that will play but there's no lyrics there's no theme songs on this i think i was told that i was told that there was a positive obama era vibe happening okay can i just i just break those ninth wall or whatever i cannot believe i'm on this this. The week that fucking article came out,

you both have so much ammo. I'm reading this article going, you're fucking kidding me. Can I pretend to have COVID and give them like a month to forget some of this shit? This is what I was told because the thing's fucking paywalled. I can't get in. I don't know if my password changed or what happened. That's why I want to know about the theme songs.

Maybe this is what's happening is you're going like, I got to pay to play basically. And that means play the song in this case. And what is it about Obama that you found so inspiring? So intoxicating. And creating. And what was it like, 2009? 2009 was a great year. I was in high school.

Obama was letting his freak flag fly. I've heard your comedic style described as humorous drone strikes straight to the funny bone. The drone strikes straight to the funny bone. The drone strikes straight to the funny bone. That's Dropout to a T. I think there are a lot of things about Obama, like his daughter's kind of disowning their last name that I think Dropout has a lot in common with. Right, sure. Dropout's got no last name. I think Dropout has a lot in common with. Right. Sure. Dropout's got no last name.

Dropout. I guess dot TV. Dot TV. Yeah. But. Which it's not, right? It's the only thing that it's not. Wasn't it just a nicer time?

Wasn't it just nice to look at our current surroundings and go, it wasn't always like this? You know, people who they like hang a sign and says, this is not normal. So they can kind of look at that. That was normal. Oh wow. That was normal. In a way you're trying to make America great again. I, yeah. We've been saying that for a long time. We're actually in lawsuits right now because that that was taken from us. That was yours. That was ours. Sucks. Yeah it sucks. I'm so glad you guys had me on though because I do feel like you've had a lot of other dropout people and they've just been

Just eating humble pie on this show. They're not willing to brag. They're like, oh, yeah, it's this little thing We do we're all we're fucking millionaires. Yes, we're fuck. We're rock stars That's so let's read you you have the first quote in this article, and I loved that yeah And I love People aside and let me let you know I had no idea that this was a thing, but there yeah, let's hear it There's something about a yeah, there's an art and altar big dog J.D. If you want to go ahead and open strong with the big dog And this is you know Jesse

Yeah, oh, yeah, I was so. And this is, you know, Jesse David Fox. 50 dollar bill inside the handshake. Oh yeah. It was so good doing this interview with you. Wait, what happened? You're shaking JDF's hand at the end of the interview and you got a 50 dollar bill stuck between your fingers. Yes, that's the JDF. Which is like, oh, this is even more than Mike Pabiglia gave me.

Is P. Holmes okay? Cause I've seen him on a lot of interview shows, like that young, what's that kid's name? Who's like, I'm gonna- Young Sheldon? No, yes, young Sheldon's podcast where he talks about killing his grandma. P. Holmes is just sitting there so confused.

I saw him doing that show with a guy whose name is like young evil or something. Yes. And I thought, are you all right? Who's your manager? I think he's actually coming out of a dark period. Oh. Like I think this is him re-emerging in a way.

He's trying to connect in a positive way. Yeah, I think he's the most okay he's been in quite some time. And he's gonna make everyone else okay too. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's good. It was weird to do that. It's all he ever wanted to do. Yeah.

Just trying to help people. Whoa. Hollywood Hamburg. With a $5 meal deal with new McValue. You pick a McDouble or a McChicken, then get a small fry, a small drink, and a four piece McNuggets. That's a lot of McDonald's for not a lot of money.

Prices of participation may vary. McDouble meal $6 in some markets for a limited time only. Whoa. Hollywood hamper. Tonight, a sold out audience of nearly 20,000 fans had filled the garden to the cast surprise. Everyone I've told about Madison Square Garden is like, oh, is there a smaller room at Madison Square Garden?

Ali Beardsley, one of the actors said beforehand. Who are you like hanging out with that they think that there's like... That's a real thing that was said to me by friends. A smaller room where they play, where the Knicks play basketball. I had friends who were like, is there a cafe at Madison Square Garden

that you're gonna like play to? Wow. They, not that they think that there's a mini, small Fisher Price basketball court inside Madison Square Garden that we were going to play, but they were curious if there was a cafe and I was saying Madison Square Garden and they were like, let's roll a roll. And other friends, little kids, they had some kind of head injury.

Yeah. A lot of my friends have had head injuries. Are your friends the little kids that interview Pete Holmes? Yeah, yeah, that tiny kid. They should though have just like a quiet, more, less stimulating space in Madison Square Garden for, it's like basketball, but it's not like the one where they're going so crazy.

I went to a Dodgers game recently and I had a headache so I had to go to the nurse. See, exactly. And at the Dodgers stadium, you can get over stimulation packages that has an iPad in it and headphones and a little foam thing to hold in your hand. Oh, they soothe you at the nurse.

I didn't even know you could go to the nurse. You just raise your hand. As long as you at the nurse. I didn't even know you could go to the nurse's office. You just raise your hand. I didn't either. You raise your hand. Excuse me? You get a pass from Ohtani. Yes. Yeah.

Hang on, hang on. Time, time. Stop. Hey, stop pitching. Yeah. We say pause. Ali. Run up there. Get a little Tylenol.

Yeah, just something like, just with like more of a chilled out. Yeah, I mean, that's not, and that's not to say that's the room that you would play. I mean, I can- They just should have. I can feel right now. Yeah. You must've been pretty raucous in there.

Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. It was raucous. So what show did you do there? Like what was the show? Was there a theme song for that? No. Okay, so what were people watching? It was kind of a blur.

People are, we played Dungeons and Dragons. I know you guys have had a few, I think you learned D&D from Lou. That was kinda cool. Yeah, I mean, it felt kinda like Lou was learning it from us by the end of that thing. It was like, it just happens so often, somebody comes in, they're like, here's my thing.

And it's like, do you know what this is at all? And then it's like, they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Yeah. Or what you thought it was is actually something else. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Yeah. So. And they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Or what you thought it was is actually something else. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Yeah.

So we don't want to like, so when we're like doing the show, we don't want to like expose that someone actually that doesn't know jack shit about the thing that they said that they were going to be here doing. So we try to help them, like serve it up to them and like get them to understanding without showing that they actually didn't know jack shit. But with him it was actually impossible. Yeah, so you felt like you were really carrying that whole interaction.

Yes. Yeah, and it's just like, every day I come to do this show. You understand that? You come to do the show? I do this show. Every day. Every day we come.

Every damn day. Just to do the show. That's just to do the show? I do this show. Every day, every day. Every damn day. Just to do the show. Just to do the show. I come to do the show every day. And every day I go, maybe today the guests will help. Yeah. Wouldn't that be nice? I did come in.

I just want to take it. I did write some. Can we just not with that? All this like, with the coming? Come on. Yeah. I like, with the coming, come on. Yeah, I mean you joined pretty fast, but I did write some notes if that's helpful. Yeah, I mean that, yes.

That would be. It would be huge for us. Let me see. What's your, what interface do you use? What? The Notes app. Is that what you did? Okay.

Do you use something better? Better than the Notes app? No, that's the best one. No, just the one that's called Notes. No, that's the best one to use. What do you use, Evernote? Oh no, that's where the best ideas are. Trello?

Yeah. The default one that comes with the phone, that's where they really have it figured out. Yeah. I actually use- No, no, no, no, no need to dig any further, no need to investigate at all. I actually use- No, no, no, no need to dig any further. No need to investigate at all. I actually use the Safari. There's a little,

and it is like actually going on a Safari of ideas. Yes. And you write all your notes in the search area. And then do you get to shoot each one? And then, yeah, you basically fire that idea as a bullet now into the internet, and it brings you

all these wounded beasts. I have these massive idea carcasses that I get to, yes. Hoist over my shoulder and carry back to the village. Single part of. That's great. I used every piece of the idea. That's kind of your ideology? Oh yes.

That's cool. Every part of the beast. Yes. The whole idea. That's kind of your ideology? Oh yes. That's cool. Every part of the beast. Yes, the whole beast. That's cool. What were the notes that you took? Okay, I just, I wanna kinda, I do wanna talk about how Dropout is. Well I'm not gonna be the only one not on my phone

during the podcast if we're all on our phone. I wrote Hollywood hand fuck Okay, and again with this, okay, just cuz we have to come okay, so I I did say of the show dropouts very especial Okay Do you know that's interesting can we yeah, we just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's not blow by it

I like that cuz that is the last one. What is it? So this was to the first one was Hollywood a handbook. Well, maybe we do have to do something with that then because I want to I'm sorry I'm on the second one, but I don't know if we're gonna, it's gonna take the whole, because I do see this going for longer. I hope so, yeah. Like, I don't know if you're feeling that is what like seeing that.

I don't want the episode to get buried. Yeah, I mean within reason. Like the Drew Barrymore one or the, I heard there are a couple that have gone by the wayside. Has anyone ever really freaked out at you? There's nothing wrong with the wayside. It's not like the wayside. Has anyone ever really freaked out at you? There's nothing wrong with the wayside. It's not like the wayside is like dangerous or something.

The wayside is really nice. Like freaked out laughing so hard at how funny we're being on the show. Yeah, that. I guess it happens most episodes, yeah. I believe that. Yeah, people usually like it. Some people have a reaction like they

are taking a spicy challenge. Uh-huh. You know what I mean? Like they shit everywhere? It's like hot ones, but we don't have any food. Well, hot ones is one example, but there's a lot of spicy challenges. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah. I like to just, the genre of spicy challenge rather than limiting it to just hot ones. Yeah. But people react like they're taking a spicy challenge. Okay, yeah, I can see that. It's a little spicy in here. It's a little, what's the word, hostile?

But I've heard people use that word. It doesn't seem, it seems like a lot of stuff is paired away. This is the Brennan thing. Yeah, it was like you're a brute of vipers. Is that like, is that like, his thing at work as well? But that is, that's like,

imagine Brennan on a spicy challenge. And he's like, oh, I don't know if I can do anymore. And they were like, bro, that was just a cup of water. Like, he's like, oh, that's as far as I could go. And they're like, dog, that was just the water. That was just the water for the spicy. water for the water to this string cheese. Yeah. Oh, I don't. Oh, no. Is that Polly? Oh, yeah.

He's like, oh, geez, Louise. Yeah. Maseralla. Yeah, that's how he pronounces it by the Maseralla. Maseralla. Mas. Oh, gosh. That's going gonna be spicy. And it's like, Brandon, you're just the wrong guy for the spicy challenge. So yeah, he did feel like we were being hostile,

but like his sort of, his threshold is subhuman. Yeah. Yeah, I guess I could kind of see. Do you guys feel like Ziwei kind of copied your whole thing? Wow finally somebody said and I okay and now it's out there and oh, I'm trying to catch it and bring it back in Oh my god, it's reached escape velocity. It's everywhere. Everyone's talking about how z-way store entire thing You a red off Hollywood every aspect, every single aspect of it

originated with us. Wow. Oh my God. It's the exact same perspective. No, I didn't want people to have this conversation. Oh no, stop, stop, stop. Hey, that's bad for us. No, oh, Jesse. Oh gosh.

We were already talking about Jesse David Foxx. We should have had a piece of it. Jesse's typing it up right now. Jesse, don't write about this. He's writing a whole series of pieces about it. Oh no. It's getting published. No. Oh no, I look hot in the picture in the article.

Stop, don't do that. Oh, I didn't want that. Come on. Stop thirsting for me, internet. No, it's fucking, it's crazy. No, we can't have that combo. No, and we can't because- But you're not ready for that conversation. No, we's fucking, it's crazy. No, we can't have that combo. No, and we can't because- But you're not ready for that conversation.

No, and we actually can. That's me talking to America. Because our settlement with the Showtime doesn't let us actually reveal the terms. Yeah, it's just like, basically there's a lot for everybody. Yeah. You know, it's an abundance mindset. And so like, you know, it doesn't matter.

There can be a lot of podcasts with a slightly edgy take. Well, look at Bobby Hoff. Yeah. I mean, look, look at Bobby. Yeah. You know, this is kind of red scare for boys is what I've been saying for a long time. Yes. It's a little cut through, you know, the liberal bullshit. Yes. Call him daddy. Yeah, totally. I love call. Yeah. Call him daddy. Yeah, totally. I love-

Yeah, call me daddy again. I love that conversation. Continue calling me daddy. I just gotta say I loved that conversation. The way that you yelled stop did blow my ear drum in my headphones, but every time it was funny. Every time it was funny. Kevin makes it really loud sometimes.

Yeah, I saw you juice it over there. I did. But yeah, so Showtime came to us preemptively because they were just like, let's not like, we don't want to make this a big thing. We know what we did. Yeah. She knows what she did.

Yeah. But it's also something you have to understand about the business. And I think Dropout actually does know this. In order to make something sustainable, better to keep it at a simmer. Because if you think we didn't get the first call to be the ones that like Kendall Roy goes to talk to

on Succession or something, it's like, yeah, fine. Yeah. You want to be a Roman candle, like it's exciting. But I would rather be. A little sparkler. I was going to say like, just a little mushroom or something. Wait, not a firework at all?

Just somewhere in the shade, just underneath the tree. It's pretty moist there, maybe a little too moist. It's on the same continuum as a firework where you've got a mushroom cloud on one side. Whoa. That's the biggest one. And then you have all the way down to- Just a little Mario looking mushroom. Yeah, just like a little Mario one.

Just a disgusting little fungus in the shadow. Yeah, that's what you'd prefer. But it does, we grow, we thrive there, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's right. It's not mushroom shaped really. Yeah. No, it's more of like a moldy sponge or something.

It has holes. Oh. It has a lot of holes in it. Not a lot of holes. Lot of pores, yeah. And there's stuff, there's like powder shooting out of it. Big tube, powder, sometimes it's dry, sometimes it's wet. Noxious.

What shoots out. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what you'd prefer than a Roman candle. And I think Dropout understands this as well. No, I honestly, we're thriving. I think we're... Oh, careful.

Looking to quadruple what we've done so far in the coming Q, Q4. Wow, Q4 is the quadruple. That's what it means. Yeah, Q stands for quadruple. Yeah, and the four also stands for quadruple. I just wasn't sure how insider you wanted me to be, so I used the acronym, I used the word.

Oh, you can be even more insider than that, if you're capable. If you have another layer. We do try to kind of get a little deep on this show. We used to keep it really surface level show biz talk, but Hayes and I have both been doing a lot of therapy on each other. Oh wow.

And it's caused us to like really start dealing with the male loneliness epidemic that we were both experiencing. Wow. And then Kevin, I think, started? Yeah, he started that epidemic. I think he's patient zero. Wow. Yeah.

Patient zero friends. He took a... K, k, k, k, k, k. Patient zero friends. Patient zero interesting things to say as well. But go off, okay. He went abroad and he has this thing where he like eats whatever and people are like, people there are like, that's not food, but he doesn't learn the language before he goes.

Wow. And so he's just kind of grabbing and eating. That's part of the male loneliness epidemic, right? Going to like Mexico City, going to Tokyo. It's literally the entire thing. He's like, I'm a digital nomad. Yeah. And he's, and I'm like.

That was his signature in the email you sent me to get me on here. Yes, and I'm like, no you aren't. You have to go to work. Yeah. You have a job at work. And it's not even really that digital. You accidentally...

I know, I'm sorry, Ali. I got every date wrong in the email that I sent Ali. You did, you did send a lot of empty spaces where I could tell you were about to fill in some dates. I sent a version point four of an email. Yeah, that's okay though. You included a photo of yourself dressed as Crypto Santa. Yeah, that was cool though, right included a photo of yourself dressed as crypto Santa Yeah, and I know right can I tell you what happens when I see Kevin's email signature I get digital yes mad

Yes, and Kevin says yes, I am mad Kevin says to me digital you mad I hear Digital you have to have heard this episode. But for anyone who likes this one, go ahead and just click the little box in the corner it should be popping up on your podcast app now whether you want the merch. Hollywood handbook.

Hollywood handbook. Oh yeah, I did, I was gonna wear this actually.. Oh yeah, I did. I was gonna wear this actually. And so yeah, Kevin drink like a pond. So you got the, not the snapback. I got the dad hat because I have a tiny little head. It's pretty sad. Interesting, so I usually hear the opposite,

that people need the dad hat for the big head. Yeah. But it's really just a different size I think you can't tell that I have a small head, but every time I say that everyone goes no you can tell And I have a really small head. So this is good. If I was wearing this and you that's from home No, no, no, this was given to me by a crypto Santa Digital you mad Okay Really excited for I know I Oh, okay. Digital you mad. Okay. I mean, crypto's not a way to say it.

How much do I owe you for? I got really excited for a second. I know, I was. Put an effect on your voice. I am a fan. And I did send a DM. You're the same as everyone else, so it's not that you're any different,

but just not a single person is like, okay. And actually, take that in. You're not any different than anyone else. Wow. Wait, this is the therapy speaking. That's right, that's right. And so whatever, it's distributed among so many people, the harm that is playing out here,

but not a single person has said, oh, I'm gonna go on this podcast. I should go buy every single merch item that they offer on their website. No one has banners anymore. Nobody, yeah. Cause that, how cool would that be to show up and have all the different hats?

And I go, which one would you like me to wear? You're a guest, you're a guest. You're a guest in my home. You can bring things. Oh, it's just Bridger's show. Just show up empty handed. Yeah, oh, there's just the one show where you're supposed to bring things.

It's just that's Bridger's idea. We should do that. No gifts. They've asked us a few times. Yes. Yeah. Bring one hey, hey. Bring one of these hats. I have to go send Kevin's emails.

Bring one of these hats. Yeah. That's actually really smart. Yeah. Ali, shut up for a second. Hey, that's so smart. Because we can promote the whole thing. And we talk about it the whole time. Yeah. Sorry we brought you. Well, the one Hayes has on, people are. It's out now.

It's out, so people are wanting, what did we call it? Someone suggested Forest Clean. Oh. Forest Clean? Mm-hmm, instead of Forest Green. But we're open. Let's keep workshopping it. Instead of Forest Green.

Yeah, let's keep doing that. I think we're gonna have to do a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit Someone suggested Forest Clean. Oh. Forest Clean? Mm-hmm, instead of Forest Green. But we're open. Let's keep workshopping it. Instead of Forest Green. This is the first thing that popped into my head. Well, surely this adorable version is Forest Green.

This is Forest Clean. Let's keep pitching on it. Ali, you got any ideas? I mean, you had the notes app loaded with cool stuff. I don't even know if we got into the especially out portion of we have it yet And what is it that makes dropout quite so as best? Yeah, I Think okay. Well speak just to get real for a second You know putting the notes or putting the prepared it's still only said Hollywood handbook and especially

Yeah, sometimes you got to read it again though. Sometimes you gotta dig back in. But I, you know, there is a loneliness epidemic. I think that Dropout has just such a fun vibe, you know? People are craving, people wanna feel like they're hanging out with their friends. And so- Yeah, it's predatory in a way. Yes. Yeah, it's predatory. For $5.99 a month, you can-

Now you got a hundred friends. Now you got a hundred. Now you got 100 friends and they're all doing kind of like cum jokes. And they're rich. And they're all loaded. We recently partnered. We have, someone kind of took over the company. We're all making triple what we would have been.

And that's. Can you say who took over the company? Yeah. That was Q3. So that's what we're in right now. Prepping for Q4. It's just, it's over the company. That was Q3. So that's what we're in right now. Crepping for Q4. It's just, it's a big company, you would know it. Maybe we can talk about it afterwards, but it's just,

this is their first foray into media. Yeah, I think I know what it is. Okay, let's talk about it afterwards. I think I know what it is. So for listeners, there's a couple really big companies out there. And like, I'm thinking of one right away and not everyone's in this kind of like financial entertainment, kind of like business merger world.

But I think I actually am thinking of what the big company is. I figured it out and we'll talk about it afterwards. We'll have the same sort of language around this stuff. Yeah, totally. And, you know, we don't have to get into specifics really of about it afterwards. We'll have the same sort of language around this stuff. Yeah, totally. And you know, we don't have to get into specifics, really what it is, but like there are some of these really big companies. Yes. And just like saying what some of them do,

like maybe it's people that make jokes about like coming all the time. Yeah. Oh, what's a little thing that you use to like clean up after you're like nutting all over the place? Oh, Clorox wipes. Oh, oh, over the place. Oh, Clorox wipes. Oh, oh, oh, wait a second.

Clorox wipes. Oh, wait. With bleach. Oh, I use the bleach. With Max of bleach. Oh, I use the pure bleach Clorox wipes to clean up. Cause otherwise I'm still dirty.

Yeah, exactly. What I did was dirty. What you did was dirty. Now I need to be clean. Yeah, exactly. Oh, I'm, oh. I twist up the end of a Clorox wipe and I plunge it into the,

oh my piece. Oh my piece. Oh my piece. Oh my piece. Oh my piece. Oh my piece. To make sure that anything that didn't quite get all the way out when I was coming is actually, you know.

Not in there. Not in there anymore. Right? Filthing up, you know. Look what it did to the forest, look how clean it is. It looks so clean. I could be that queen. That looks bleached, honestly. Yeah. It's pristine.

Clean in the forest. Clean in one of the trees for sure, you know what I mean? Or in stumps, anyway. Forest stumps. That's what makes it special, is the influx of cash that we've recently received after this article. That's what I was trying to say. It was the article.

We're thriving, Jesse David Fox really put us on the map for some of these bigger tech companies. He's already talking to Clorox. Yeah, he's been sponsored for a long time by Clorox. They slipped him a 52. They slipped him a 50, he added something about an altar. Jimmy Dab 50. Jimmy Dab 50.

Jimmy Dab. Was he on this show? It depends who you ask. What does that mean? We shared recently, he was on it not that long ago. It was a buried episode. There was an episode that was never released. Wow.

It was the last episode. Because we listened back to it. The file was corrupted. And it did turn out to be the aliens from Arrival making their first contact. Wow. Through the sound file. Got it, and that was a little too real to release.

The world wasn't ready for that. There was all these like. And then JDF would be like, and that's why Vanessa Bayer is the clean up hitter this season. I do, wait, can we trade? I'll give you guys a dropout login, which I'm sure you're dying for.

And then can I listen to flagrant ones? Cause I'm into basketball now and I really want to listen to the podcast. I love this, like Austin in the 90s style. You know, I like I'll come. Just trade tapes. Yeah, exactly. 90s style. You know, I like outcome trade. I miss. Yeah, exactly.

That's actually a real male art. Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm down. I don't. Is there something I could have instead of the dropout log in? Just like a can I have a gum or something? Five ninety nine every month.

Pretty much all I can offer is the dropout login But I can't we have new shows coming out. I think you're gonna like all Okay, well, let's preview some of the upcoming see that would be huge for us like there's an animated show about aging as a woman in Hollywood Okay Okay, Bojack Horsewoman. Yeah exactly. Okay. Yeah, Bojack Horsewoman. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Bojill. Bojill Ho woman. And I'm just thinking you guys are going to love it. I mean, that's definitely interesting. Anything else? It's just that one? No, no, there's more.

What do we got? We've got, it's kind of like a challenge show, but it's like really physical, and there's a lot of money on the line. You should call it the challenge. Oh, you have to. That's great. Wait, that's clean.

It's physical. That's clean. Clean, yes. The, that's clean. It's physical. That's clean. Clean, yes. Money on the line. The challenge. There's money on the line. It's kinda, you know, yeah. It's shocking. And it's all you guys doing the competing and challenging.

It's just us hanging out. Obviously you're gonna be making the money. Yeah, no, no, exactly. We're making the money. It's not like the fans or whatever compete and like they get the money. It's like you get it. Oh, that would be cool. Oh, God, that would be special. If the fans could whatever compete and like they get the money. It's like you get it. Oh that would be cool.

Oh God, that would be special. If the fans could do it. If the fans could get a little bit of money, that would be a special. No, no, no. You know what I think should happen? The fans should just pay more to be contestants on that show. So there is money on the line,

but they're giving it. If you look at our comments when we talk about raising the price, people are like, please raise it more. Please let us pay $20. I'm actually disappointed at this price increase. I think it should have been way higher than this. Exactly. So I think what you're saying- You're leaving money on the table. Is right. Yeah.

I'm insulted to support an artist who doesn't think I can afford a much higher price. Yeah. So it would be nice if we introduced some sort of like tiers, you know, some sort of like kinda, there's like a... A spicy challenge could do that. A spicy challenge could be good. Could introduce tiers. That could be a good show.

I don't like, when I see these clips, Which ones? It's so fake. Oh, these dropout clips? Every time I see the dropout clip, it's like, okay, pretend you're trying to buy a car, but there's a spider in the corner you're worried about. And I'm just like, there's no car, there's no spider. And with Hayes and I, we've been doing a lot of therapy

lately, it's like, can anybody get fucking real on one of these things? It's so fucking fake. And I just don't think that's where we're headed I think so too and so like if you could get one show where it's just like It's just real literally All y'all getting real Going through your bank accounts. Yeah, right like just Transparently like talking about your investments, like showing the documents,

maybe even showing some of the passwords to get into the account. And like just saying like, this is what's going on for us, you know? Yeah, like we could go to therapy and that could be the whole show. I don't know about therapy as much as I wanna see what's going on with your money.

Let's go to Delaware, let's go to where the actual shop is set up. The headquarters. Oh, the headquarters of Dropout? Yeah, we are located in Delaware. Which is a safe deposit box, but you know, that's where the documents are in there. It's a tax haven also, which is why we're there.

Did you did Vic's show? Yes. Okay. I was did Vic's show? Yes. Okay. I was one of the three little pigs. Where you dressed all crazy. I was dressed up all crazy. And they did all this makeup on? Yeah, I had a ton of makeup on.

I actually was supposed to do it coming up. Sometimes they don't have that much makeup. Can I say this? It's, they, it seems like they run out of steam. That makeup team. Doesn't it feel that way? Somebody could say, when I see these clips. So they had somewhere to go or something. They're working too hard. It seems like they run out of steam. That makeup team. Doesn't it feel that way? Somebody gets, when I see these clips. They had somewhere to go or something.

They're working too hard. Where it's like, I see this giant rock bug monster. And then I go, okay, interesting. That's a lot of makeup at least. And then someone else is like. And then the next one is like, they've got like. They got the little mustache tattoo from 2005. Your character is a scarf man.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, your character's so sleepy. Yeah. And it's just like, I don't know. They do some people really dirty on the show. Yeah, sometimes they run out of steam. I was supposed to do it this upcoming season

and I had to say no because my partner is gonna give birth next month. We're really excited. But I was like, I just can't be dressed as a bird in like two hours worth of makeup and have to run out of the studio and try to get to the hospital. But that's so drop out.

That's so drop out. Like they should follow me. Follow me. Okay, this is real. This is real. I get dressed as a bird four four or five hours of makeup, they don't run out of steam for me. And then I get the call and it's like, my water broke, I'm scared. I flap out of the studio, cameras follow me

all the way to labor and delivery. Emergency, C-section, the cameras are right there. I'm talking like a bird the whole time, don't drop character. Sam is on a driving desk, laughing his ass off the whole way. Sam is just counting money on a driving desk. And yeah, no, I think that,

I think this has legs. Yeah. I think this has wings. It's got wings. It's got wings. It's got legs too. It's got legs too. It's got legs too. It's got legs too. It's got legs too. It's got legs too. It works, but it isn't. Yeah, this has wings. Yeah Yeah, it works but it is it's ignoring the fact that birds have legs but the baby is gonna be the baby is gonna be

imprinting on that and yeah You're gonna be regurgitating a parent now Yeah, it's gonna, it's gonna be something he's afraid of and then something that he's turned on by. And that's just kinda how it works. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably not a good idea. Which pig were you? Which house?

That's a great question. Don't say Bricks. It wasn't Bricks. Yeah, I know. It's Nick. So don't say it. And just kinda revisiting, I know Sean said specifically that

When you say that's a great question that I already know that actually does apply to both hosts Yeah, it's true. You know it and I and I know he didn't specify that last time and Didn't know we had to necessarily Yeah, which is something we do on necessarily. I was being kind of nice. Yeah. Which is something we do on the show. No, you're right. You're right.

Ah, fuck me. And I don't have to say you're right. Oh. Yeah, okay. Try and put that crap on me. You got any notes or anything? Try to put that crap on me, Kevin. I'm getting texts.

Try to come over here and put that cake face crap on me. I'm getting texts. I'm getting some text messages. I wish I had more notes, honestly. I wish you had had them as well. Mostly my whole, oh, can you put me in the dink? Bye. Bye. Bye.

Bye. Bye. Bye. Hollywood handbook. That was a hate gum podcast.