Hollywood Handbook - Angela Giarratana, Our Close Friend

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

The Boys attempt to teach ANGELA GIARRATANA (YouTube, internet) their favorite game.Get a Hat Pack Hat here!Watch the video of today’s episode at Patreon.com/HollywoodHandbook This is ...a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Hollywood Handbook via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is a headgum podcast. New Year, same extra value meals at McDonald's. So now get two snack wraps, plus fries, and a medium soft drink for just $8. For limited time only, prices and participation may vary. Prices may be higher in Hawaii, Alaska, and California, and for delivery. Giratana. Giratana. From...
Starting point is 00:00:36 Giratana. What? So, well, you were going to say something. From what? Andrew Giratana from. Yeah. From Smash. The NBC.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Musical. Musical. Drama. The business of Broadway. Uh, Catherine McPhee. She's not just an idol. Hilty as Charles. Yeah, I'm not on that show.
Starting point is 00:01:10 wish. Talk about what you are. No, I'll let you. You looked like you were going to list some stuff. I mostly, so I was talking about this before the show is, I think the podcast hasn't been going well. I think everyone can agree. And part of that is we haven't been great about interviewing people. I'm realizing as I see some of these podcasts, you're just supposed to kind of wind them up and let them go.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Here I am, for some reason, I thought I was a part of the show. I always want to let my man get his shit off. Like, I'm here. I'm here to serve him. But he wants you to get your shit off. I'm trying to let my man get his shit off. So I'm creating space for that. I'm the pitching machine.
Starting point is 00:01:55 But we got a guest. The guest is only here, you know, for this distinct chunk of time, especially a one-time guest. No chance of returning. And that's not us really like this was a- No, I felt like that. When I walked in the room, it felt like, Oh, this is one and done.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Okay. Well, we're here. Let's record it. No, no, we're doing it. Yeah, but I'm already thinking like, whoop. Woo. Yeah. This will be like not even.
Starting point is 00:02:19 This booking took a lot out of Kevin. Well, this was my first question. What's your relationship to Kevin? I don't know. Really? So what? I just met him today. So what, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:35 So what happened here? It. I was shocked, too. Does that make you feel better? I never, yeah, well, no. No, I assume that there was something going on. Yeah, no. Kevin, what do I owe you?
Starting point is 00:02:53 A cup of coffee, my friend. I've been drinking a lot of those. God. I took the energy out of the room. What could that actually be? You know what I mean? Every time when he says something like that, I'm like, I know it's not coffee in the traditional way that I understand.
Starting point is 00:03:08 I know it's not over. I know it's not over. There's more to unpack here. And it'll be on Kevin's time. And I'll find out when I find out. Yeah. I'm just like looking at that version of myself that's finding out what the coffee is and just saying, you know what?
Starting point is 00:03:26 Good luck. Good luck. Yeah. Just enjoy. No, what you said about wanting to interview is interesting because I walked in here being like, I want to be better on podcasts by talking less. Well, that was my whole thing today. You know, Kevin's sending me these ideas.
Starting point is 00:03:39 last night of what we could talk about. And I'm like, I gotta have a fucking idea every time I do this show. Can I just hang out? I hope you guys don't mind. I'm doing shoes on your couch. People are doing that more now. You know what?
Starting point is 00:03:55 It looks like a couch you could do it with. Yeah, I've decided that you shouldn't do that. Because this furniture is going to be sold soon. And we're going to need Macon. maximum return on that. Like, we're going to need to put as big a dent as we can in the sort of hole that's been dug into this place. We're cutting corners and sides.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yes. And the big, huge part of the inside. Yeah, we're getting to, we're carving some out of the middle as well. So we are cutting corners, but we're also getting in there with like an exacto or something. I noticed, uh, you didn't wash your hands when you came in, which is fine. Oh, my God. That's so. It's totally fine.
Starting point is 00:04:41 There are a couple sinks. Okay. We still do have sinks. Mm-hmm. Paper towels we do not have. Yes. Paper towels? The thinking, Marty says it's for the creative.
Starting point is 00:04:55 He says he's been watching the podcast and he feels like the energy is that we've been dry. Kind of wiped it all off. Too dry. You know? It's very dry. And you guys washed your hands? I did wash my hands.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I washed mine. And I, yeah, I wash them before I come. I wash them as soon as I get in here. As soon as you walk in. And I will be washing them at the end of the episode, no offense. Oh, no, it's okay. So I have to ask. And I think Hayes already asked this.
Starting point is 00:05:33 He can't help himself. What are you like from? Yeah, why am I here? Such a good question Such a good question I'm shocked by the way I don't know what I'm from I don't know what I'm from
Starting point is 00:05:46 So if you don't know you don't know No you don't you don't know But you're out there You're on Oh my God you're going crazy Yeah you guys know about it You're going insane I'm going insane out there right
Starting point is 00:05:56 Stop calm down But what is it all Like where is it And what's going on Wow, I mean, you guys are on the internet? Let's say I wanted to see it. Like, what would you do? What do I do?
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah, you wouldn't pick up a remote. I guess if you wanted to airplay it. That's tempting. That now has me. I'm sitting forward a little bit. My feet are coming off the couch. I'm going, talk about this. Talk about airplay?
Starting point is 00:06:37 Oh, so I can Airplay that I'm airplaying it Okay Okay Imagine me My ass airplay Oh oh
Starting point is 00:06:48 You guys are fun I want to be Yeah Okay you know I do a lot of YouTube And um Internet And what and what The internet
Starting point is 00:07:02 The internet right Look out What What What? What happens? What's it doing? What happens?
Starting point is 00:07:10 What happens? What happens on there? On the internet? With, and you. Yeah. A lot of like, um... You're sitting there. So you get on the internet.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Yes. So you get on the internet. Yeah. Let's assume it's already on. It turns on. It's already on. You get on there. And they say, go.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I'm air playing it. Yes. Right? That's your idea. Yeah. That was my idea. I thought of that. So you were collaborating.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Yeah. It's MakerSpace. Yeah. And I'd say it's not like what you said where it's already on. It's not like network. It turns on. I said that. You have to pick what you want.
Starting point is 00:07:50 He said it turns on. I skipped it. I said let's assume it's already on. Yeah. Which I guess I'm not allowed to do. Yeah. No, you can't do that. And it turns on and go.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And you are. So like what I'm doing on the internet. Yes. A lot of I'll play video games on the internet. Oh no. We are amazing to games. Not me talking to the games. Oh, baby.
Starting point is 00:08:28 We're winning it in the time. 100. You guys, it sounds like you guys, so you like video games? We are crazy to the game. games. Oh, it's. You're crazy to the games. Stop, stop, stop.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Kevin, you didn't warn us. We cannot. We cannot. And now we gotta. Let's do it. Not me talking to the games all the time now. See, you're talking to the games. At Angela Juriton is here.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Two, three. Games, games. Okay, name three. Name them. Mm-hmm. Name them. You have to. You got to do it.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Right? You got to do it. Hey, name three. That's what we're here to do. Name three, right? Yeah, name three. Yes. You got it. You got it. Name three. Yes. Desert Island games.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Desert Island games. Name three. And that's such a huge part of it, right? Naming them. Right? No, I'm mostly playing them. Naming and gaming. Let's play. I'm naming gaming.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And so you guys just get to play all day? But this is work. This is a job? Yeah, this job. Yeah. Pinch me. Oh, my God. And what do you guys do?
Starting point is 00:09:38 We play games. Oh, God. You play games. Yeah. I'm at work right now and I'm playing games. We play games. By the way, should we play games? Should we play games?
Starting point is 00:09:46 Should we just do it? Let's play games. Let's do it. Let's just do it. I love when he gets in this mode. What's the mode? Oh, it's Hayes in game mode. Look out.
Starting point is 00:09:59 He's the ultimate. And what do you mean by that? So he is. The ultimate? Nonstop. Like. This is peak Hayes, and he's gaming like crazy. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Looks like a brand new deck of cards. So you notice I can open it. I've opened it before. Not exactly his first day doing games. So he's able to open the deck of cards, and it was like, is like butter the way he slices through this little plastic cell paint wrap on it. He doesn't. I can speak for him, and he's a little bit out of breath right now. And so the thing about Hayes with games is he's got a method.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And if somebody else opens it, it's almost like it feels that was two seconds. And that is actually not even the game. Blink and you miss it. That's actually not even the whole game. No, no. So each of these, have you ever played this? What is it? Do you know this one?
Starting point is 00:11:01 Which one is it? Okay. And she calls herself a gamer. I'm teasing. Because everybody's different with games. This is called cards. This is called cards. Oh, cards.
Starting point is 00:11:14 This one's cards. And in this game, each, every one of these is a different guy. So you pick your guy. Yeah, yeah. Is what you start. Like suits and different numbers and stuff. Oh, I've never played this.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Okay, I want the, kind of a visual joke. Imagine. So, so there. There's not just cards in here. There's dice. He put him on the guy. That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I'll take the jack. The jack? Yeah, a jack. A jack. They're different guys. She can't be the jack. I can't be. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:51 He's the jack. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, so anybody can be whatever they want. Like, some of us have, like, our guys that we usually do. Oh, no, totally. If you play the jack, then I'll do, let's just do Ace of Spades. Which jack do you want? Can he just, do you mind if he just picks first?
Starting point is 00:12:06 Can I do mine? No. I'm so sorry. I'm supposed to be interviewed. doing the... No, and I said I was going to be better about this, but I also do... There's an amount of like...
Starting point is 00:12:15 And I've said this before, but it's like, you are a guest. You've literally never played this before. Yeah, no. So I think it actually might make sense to let him... I totally got that. I'm just going to ask me first, but I'll wait for you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And I think it was nice to ask you first. No. Yeah, and that's why I'm going to answer... I don't think it was bad. You're like, you asked me first, but like, I don't think it was bad for me to do that. I don't think that was him being mean. I think that you...
Starting point is 00:12:37 I didn't think... going like, oh, I've been asked so like nobody else exists ever again was maybe where things kind of went off the rails. I think when you answer a question, you're not kind of like nobody else is here. You're just kind of like answering the question that someone asked you, right?
Starting point is 00:12:49 I know you think that. Do you want to be Jack Jelen Hall? Yes. Oh, okay, so there's different. I'm kissing my guy. It's me, so I'm joking. You guys in games. He doesn't do any of that.
Starting point is 00:13:05 He's not actually. It's, I'm being funny. because we were just having a show. It's would, yeah, I would, oh, ketchup on my pants. He had a kind of a crazy breakfast. He called me about it after. Cool. So, do you want to talk about it or?
Starting point is 00:13:26 Oh, well, it seems like you wanted to move on right away. No, no, you just kind of like said it, like, as a throwaway. But no, what happened with the ketchup? He does not want to talk about it. Oh, okay. Okay, great. It was really crazy. I mean, like, it seems like she really wants you to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Okay. I mean. I guess we'll go back through like stuff in your life. Yeah, we can get to smash. It's like sensitive to you. Oh. That you would rather not discuss. Things that are supposed to be private.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Part of the reason I call. That's content now, you know? It's like you got to just like rip your heart out every single fucking day and put it on the feed. Mm-hmm. And just, yeah. I understand. Like, that's the online content culture. feeding it. You're feeding your life. You're feeding your life to this audience member who
Starting point is 00:14:16 were just gobbling up your soul every day and going, there'll be one piece of me that is my. Now you get the internet. How many more? Can I have a little bit more please? And it's like, I just fucking weighed it all out there. But part of the reason I just were like, oh, I have ketchup on my pants. And then you kind of moved on. I said that. And then Hayes said he had a really crazy breakfast this morning. And then he said he called me about it afterwards. Now, why would I call Hayes about it afterwards? maybe so that it happens off the show the discussion of the crazy breakfast maybe so that I don't have to like
Starting point is 00:14:45 take care of just on our end so that when I get to the show that I can kind of put that part of my life away so that I'm not constantly feeding my entire being to the audience and giving them every single piece of me and nothing held back
Starting point is 00:15:02 nothing for my family okay you save that for your family I'll take the ace of space can I go Can I just pick my guy? Yeah, you can. Yeah, go for it. I mean, like, it literally can I.
Starting point is 00:15:16 You looked at me like you are going to give me my card. I'm so sorry. I'm going to be a cat,ness. What card is that? The four of hearts, okay. Because of her intelligence. Okay, so what's the game? It's like about characters.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Well, let's all figure out our guy first. Let's pick our guys. So you want to be the ace of spades? No, I'm so sorry. Yeah, I'd love to. What's that guy? You want to be Osama bin Laden. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I didn't know that, right? That actually is sort of fit. Don't say that fit. Don't say that fits. Do not say that fit. I mean, it's sort of fit. I don't want to say it, but like you literally picked Osama bin Laden and like, yeah. What does that fit about?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Literally. One second with my buddy. Literally, we're like sort of like, we're these kind of like, you know, tall, you know, sort of like. upstanding right kind of fixtures and then we're getting taken down by this like
Starting point is 00:16:22 is your second with your buddy over yeah okay I want to tell it to you it will be I want to any got her
Starting point is 00:16:34 those guys were trying to have a second with their buddies right and the lot it was like no yeah now I'm part of this yeah
Starting point is 00:16:43 you know what I mean if I interrupt Yeah Oh Okay, I'll take I don't want to I'm inlawing Can I take something else?
Starting point is 00:16:53 Sure Could I get the Five of Hearts? Wow What is this fitting to? I'm actually surprised You would pick this one This one's a surprise to me
Starting point is 00:17:06 We don't have that Okay That one's not in there In the brand new deck you just opened Yeah unfortunately Yeah It's like a Who
Starting point is 00:17:19 Do you want to share it? Yeah, let's ask. The 504, you guys are going to share the five of parts. Who is it? Wilma. Wilma. Just Wilma? No.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Okay, so this deck has Wilma Flintstone, Katness, Osama bin Laden. Who is yours? Jack Gyllenhaal? Mm-hmm. Jack? Jillenhall? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Isn't it Jake? Oh, sweetie. I can't. I can't. I'm gonna bark. Oh, so. Oh, sweetie. I can't.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Okay. I'm so sorry. I just thought that we were all like... Now I feel bad. Entertainment. Now I feel bad. I'm sorry. I do YouTube.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I don't do this kind of stuff. It's Jack? No, I feel bad. No, it's Jake. No, it's Jake Gill at all. This is killing me. That's really cute. I don't know if I want to.
Starting point is 00:18:21 play the game you should we should tell him that we have to you're gonna tell him I called him Jack I called him Jake and we probably would say like your name yeah say that like someone did that just want it to be a quicker conversation it should be stones yes the dice
Starting point is 00:18:43 well I mean the stones yes okay so what's the game called you can have a dice not gonna work out great for you what's the game called games called cards okay said that yeah you did my bad that was my first mistake
Starting point is 00:18:59 Kevin is always talking about found money you know what I mean there's like there's the money that you plan for there's like you set up your business plan and like your revenue projections and all that and like those are the benchmarks you're trying to keep and then he talks about
Starting point is 00:19:21 but then like you have your like you're found money where you're like your uncle finds it behind your ear. Yep. No, he's described this experience so many times to me. And he always used the same term, which is found money is almost as good as getting tickled by your uncle. And I never really understood it until we experienced our own version of that, which is, obviously, we make our financial plan.
Starting point is 00:19:50 We make our projections for the year. But anytime we do have an advertiser. That to us has found money. That's money we weren't expecting. And that's happening right now. Right now, I am getting basically my ass completely tickled off by Kevin's uncle. Yes. I am giggling and squealing.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Absolutely. And I'm saying stop it. But the second he stops, I'm going to do it again. Found eliminates the clutter by giving you one platform that handles at all, banking, bookkeeping, invoices, and taxes. No more paying for multiple. subscriptions in dealing with clunky outdated apps. It would be nice for if found because we are, we have this partnership with them that they allow you to cancel other
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Starting point is 00:21:39 Should we decide who goes? Mm-hmm. Okay. Sean and I go. Okay. Cool. I don't even have a character. Well, if you had just, if you had picked when it was like picking time.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Mm-hmm. There was like a time when there's like a clock on the picking. So if you pick, well, you did. I mean you picked Asama bin Laden and then you and then you said I don't want it. And then you said I don't want that. You're fine. I'll take Asama bin Laden. Fine.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Do we still have it? He's hiding now. Well good for him. He should hide. I think he should have turned himself in myself. But you think it's good that he fled Johnson. That's not what I said. That's not what I said.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Literally is what you said. I swear it's Jake Gyllenhaal. I think there was like a lot of suffering caused by him hiding. Whoa. I. I'm losing it thinking about Jack hearing that because he's going to freak out. It seems like a simple mistake one would make. You never play this on there.
Starting point is 00:22:55 On what's it called? That is throwing me too where it's games. Yeah. And I've never played this. Which we're amazing for. And which really felt like a moment of connection in the podcast when you were saying that you're games and we're like. Because we're obsession. Your obsession
Starting point is 00:23:14 Okay Addict me the game Talk about it I mean Okay you know what I think go ahead and talk about I think the second we started playing the game I got a little rough and I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:23:26 Literally have not started playing We literally have not started playing So the second we go The second we started Literally did not ever happen Yeah pick two goes Okay so the second we The second we picked two goes
Starting point is 00:23:38 I think we got off on the wrong foot And I'm sorry and I like learning people's favorite games so I'm just going to be a guest here and I'll try to learn as I go that felt aggressive
Starting point is 00:23:56 oh my God is the only thing and do you know who I was hearing don't you fucking dare don't you're talking like that I'm not doing this whole podcast as here you go that's who I was hearing who's the seven of clubs
Starting point is 00:24:11 Carmen who Kartman Jesus Christ. That's you. Well, I didn't get to pick this one. You gave it to me.
Starting point is 00:24:21 That doesn't feel fair. You did. I promise you picked. In a way you did. Okay. All right. I'll take it. I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I'll take it. So the deck holder is the gamesman. And in certain levels, he can actually be a decider of when you picked Cartman. So. Okay. That's part of it. Okay. Next time I won't do that.
Starting point is 00:24:46 behavior. Mm-hmm. But I like, I apologized. It felt aggressive, didn't it? Okay, okay, okay. Note taken, no taken. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:58 We're going to go. Yes. So, Catness is, Catniss acquires gun. Oh, so this is like a D&D kind of fantasy. We're just doing stuff with people. I wouldn't say that ever again.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Here's my only issue with it. With what I just said. Here's my only... With the deed issue with it. D&D? No, the deed that you have committed. We kind of try to stay away from committing... foul deeds on this show.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Did you mention that, Kevin? What did you mention about the relationship between us and committing foul deeds? Yeah, pull up the email, Kevin, because I didn't get any of that. Who are we corresponding with? Who's your team? It was just me and Kevin, and I didn't get any deed play or anything. You can't spell team without me. me at
Starting point is 00:26:21 me at gmail.com right you guys are a fucking blast you guys are a fucking blast I'm starting to wonder this feels crazy to me is games a bad idea no
Starting point is 00:26:43 no more games well no we can we can do it I thought she liked to I thought oh this is what it's going to be
Starting point is 00:26:55 you know like this is where we're going to go because and she said that's what they do well we yes I mean eventually because we were like
Starting point is 00:27:03 okay you're on the internet what's going on I remember games yeah and I'm cutting a lot of in between out we got it
Starting point is 00:27:11 you cut and you do the editing no just as he's in my retelling of the story right now he's just remembering thank you my bad my bad I thought you were going to cut most of that out of the episode.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Do you think this episode will see the light of day? Do you think you're going to scrap it? A lot of our listeners don't do that. And so to talk about seeing the light of day, like, it's like good or bad, we kind of want to not have judgment about that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Copy, copy, copy, copy. Just the language that we choose is impactful.
Starting point is 00:27:48 You know what I mean? So we're not trying to really cause harm to our primary. Mary audience. Totally. Totally. And it's fine to see the light of day, and it's fine to forget that it exists. Yes. To be so separated and insulated from the light of day for such a long time that you are, I don't want to say a mole person, but that you are in a sort of a different category of species almost. I think that's evolution.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Oh yeah. I think we should play the game. What about the game? Let's go play the game. You like the game? Yeah, I want to do the game. You like the game? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Game it up. Catanis acquires gun. Time to. And you are going to.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Carmen will also acquire a gun. Katness just did that. So there's only one gun. Can I acquire a different gun? It's not like it's not like a nasty thing. It's not like a mean game. It's not like I think it's like fun. Yeah, you know, it's like collaborative.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yeah, okay, okay, okay. Oh, it's kids, it's kids play this game. Okay, I acquire cake pop. Can I do that? Carmen acquires a cake pop. Okay. Cake pop demon hunters. That was funny. Angela, come on.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Angela, you don't like that? Seriously. Can that be on YouTube or what? Oh, jeezla. Jesus Christ. I actually, we, yeah. Angela. I've heard that before.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Angela. I have. I have. I have. Oh, that's not nice, Cartman. You heard cake pop demon hunters before? I literally have. I literally, I did it.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I made the joke. I'm not kidding. I can timestamp it. I can fucking timestamp it. When? On what? On YouTube. which one
Starting point is 00:30:02 there's one YouTube which do you know what YouTube is which part zone which part you think there's zones I'm asking which part of YouTube I want to play
Starting point is 00:30:17 what's can we go back who else was there call them right now I'm not doing that calls them on the phone if you actually have you know what
Starting point is 00:30:26 you know what's really fucking annoying you know what's really fucking annoying is I've been here for fucking 25 minutes and you've already said I'm Osama bin Laden
Starting point is 00:30:37 okay and now is that the beginning of a list I'm trying to shut the fuck up I'm trying to do a list I can't even look at you and make the list you know what I take it back felt like we were doing I take it back because Osama bin Laden at least was honest I don't think he what he said exactly
Starting point is 00:30:55 what he wanted to do and then unfortunately he did it I'm just feeling like you're putting in the corner and he actually kept his promise I never promised You don't promise you anything. Okay. I wish we recorded the initial I've ever been in. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Every single one. All the emotional labor. Yes. I walked in here and did promise one thing. I wish we recorded before the episode. This happened. We got to start recording before the episode. I don't think you can do that.
Starting point is 00:31:26 That feels inappropriate. We have to start doing it. It's not for the listeners, but it is for us and it is for the courts. Why don't you tell them what happens? And notice how she does. She won't call anyone, like notice how far we've gone from. Calling someone to see if I've made the joke cake pop demon hunters?
Starting point is 00:31:44 To see if you're a liar. To see if you're lying. And also it's like, I go, I wish we recorded before. She didn't go, it wouldn't have mattered. I didn't say anything before. I didn't make a promise before. She goes, you're not allowed to do that. Okay, I'll grab my phone.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I was scared to be caught. And first she said that's funny, but in a way she's like kind of pissed off. Yeah. I'm grabbing my phone. I could see how jealous she was. Don't text first. Do not text first. No, I'm just looking up something.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Just so we don't. It's Jake fucking Jillenhall. Just so we don't lose track of the game. Just so we can keep it moving. His real name is like just on your phone. It's like that he would just put his real name. Let me give everyone else my name. Let me give.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Oh, let me give everyone who ever wants to see a movie my real name. So there's nothing special between me and my actual friends. Okay. So it's like a special thing that's Jack. People who, it's like for people who work. Who else was there? When I said the cake pop demon, I'm not calling someone. I'm not doing that.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Who else was there? Tell me. I'll get to them. Just so we don't lose track of the game. Jack Gillen Hall of Clire's gun. Okay. Oh, so you both can get guns. Well, we went first.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Jack. I went second. You went third. Yeah, I guess. It's not like third. It's not like third in that way. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:05 What happens? The way you're describing it is not how like, it's like, yes, but it's not. Turn one has kind of bookends, especially when your team. When you're, okay. Oh, you guys are on a team. Well, I mean, we both have a gun. Wilma. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And we're sharing Wilma. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay, what happens next? So you're not making the phone call. I'm not making. You won't even say who was there. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Because I don't think I need to prove to you guys anything. No, you don't. You already have. We have all the evidence we need. What's the evidence? You told a fib today, Angela, you made up a story. And it was to, I guess, impress I don't know who. And the way that you want to score points and the way that you want to succeed is by stomping on others and keeping them down.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I invented cake pop demon hunters today. A comedic concept so rich, so powerful with such tremendous legs, so original that you couldn't let it exist. The odds of this are crazy. Without somehow connecting yourself to it. No, I. And so that's one way to do things. Maybe that's what they do in your part of YouTube. And yes, it has parts.
Starting point is 00:34:44 To me. It is parts, yes. It's channels. Ruining other people's clips is not a way to get your own clips to perform better. Runing other people's clips by saying I thought of that already. Okay, I let him have it for a second. Literally one second. What you need to do is think, why is it my clip doing what that clip is doing?
Starting point is 00:35:02 And instead of saying, oh, because I haven't attacked them, is instead saying, say, oh, it's okay to have some healthy competition. Oh, let me try to do my kick pop demon hunters, you know? Where's my idea like that? Not that it would be that. That's, you know, one of one. But where's my version of that? And when you feel a clip generating and like reaching escape velocity as we were experiencing
Starting point is 00:35:34 here, it's not a great responsibility. to basically get like a shoulder mounted bazooka and just blow it out of the sky. I sort of waited to the clip was over. And shrapnel is piercing us. I don't think I interrupted the clip at all. I think I saw that you were kind of manufacturing the clip. And then I went, okay. Manufacturing.
Starting point is 00:35:57 There's nothing false about it. This has been one of the realest days of my life. It started with a very upsetting breakfast, very crazy breakfast. Okay, so here we go. a deep conversation with my friend, then a true selfless investigation into you, YouTube, what you're doing, then a fun game, a shared activity,
Starting point is 00:36:26 all of that just to be sledgehammered in the fucking skull. And the clip was not over, by the way. I had some stuff that I was going to do on top of it. He was going to get. What were you going to do on top of it? I always want my man to get his shit off. Yeah, you get your shit off on that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:43 What's the question? What was the stuff you were going to do on top of cake pop demon hunters? Cake pop demon bunters, bun cake. Bunt cake. Bunt cake pop demon bunters. Kevin, you tell me when I should talk to when the clip's over because I don't want to interrupt the clip, right? Bunt cake pop demon bunters. You can talk now.
Starting point is 00:37:05 That's so funny. She's waiting, literally waiting until the clip is over. to do the reaction literally waiting it to leave coming to actually give it up Carmen gets in a car oh Carmen
Starting point is 00:37:20 oh okay that were that word it's in a car game on okay somebody finally showed up to play all right
Starting point is 00:37:29 Jack Gyllenhaal shoots the car and that was a good try yeah it was a really good try you can't kill a car the car with the car the car has been shot. You didn't kill my car.
Starting point is 00:37:50 That's a first. Wow. Literally never happened before. I didn't think that was part of the game. But I guess as I work back through the rules, there's nothing forbidding that. It's not really sporting. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Let's ask the stone.
Starting point is 00:38:13 If you could shoot a car. Well, we shot the car. Two. Car ran away. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. My car ran away because of the two. It ran away. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Is my turnover? Does you know who your character is now? Who's my character now? T-M. What? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Because there's no car. Who? T-man. T-man. Can I go back to being Osama bin Laden? I think that'd be more fun for me, genuinely. I'm not sure you ever stopped. Let me get them.
Starting point is 00:38:53 You have to stop making comparisons to me and Osama bin Laden. Let me get him back right. You have to stop. There you go. It's your boy. Don't call him my boy. Do you see how that's damaging for me? Honestly, with the type of audience
Starting point is 00:39:13 that you've cultivated over there, you think that, they would get upset about Osama bin Laden being a name associated with you. I think anybody would. With the type of audience that you cultivated with your specific audience. And what does that fucking shit mean? The type of audience? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:34 You tell me. No, no. I'm asking you what that means. I don't know. I honestly don't know. It's your audience. I don't know. You tell me.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I feel like I should step in here. Great. You should tell him because he doesn't know. I don't know. Great way to step in. Yeah. Yeah. What my audience is.
Starting point is 00:39:58 The type of audience that you've cultivated. The type of audience you've cultivated. And that kind of, do you feel like that feels a little loaded? This audience that you've cultivated over there. You want, like, tell me honestly. What type of audience you think you've cultivated it? Okay, fine. Teenagers.
Starting point is 00:40:17 It hurt to say it. But there, I was honest. That's the first honest thing I said. Wow. Mm. Um, college kids who don't go outside a lot. Mm.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Later day. Because they're. Because they don't, I don't know. No, I think it's because Osama bin Laden Mocking dro. Fines Cartman's car.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Gets in it and runs over your guns. Damn. Wow. Now we got ourselves a game of cards. Much respect. All right, let me roll the
Starting point is 00:40:59 Stone really quick? Four. No, he doesn't. Can I roll the stone? He just rolled it. Did you hear it? It hasn't been a move. I literally heard it, I saw it, right?
Starting point is 00:41:13 Okay, okay, great, great, I don't. I don't. So Osama bin Laden just stands there with his fucking dick out. Jesus. Fuck. Oh, so you can roll it again? I just asked if I can roll it. That's not good for Osama.
Starting point is 00:41:30 What happens now? I don't know This kind of became like a whole other thing Where it's like now we're like talking about this dead guy's dick Yeah It's like not really what the show is It's like not really the audience we've been cultivating That we're like don't do this
Starting point is 00:41:53 This was like and we've been doing this a long time Dead terrorist's dick Oh my God I meant it like as a phrase like he's just standing there with no car This was like 2015 kind of stuff we used to talk about like Oh my fucking God. Like that was something that we did. Yeah. I think it's like the worst hour of my life.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Kind of something that we're. I think it's only been 38 minutes. Thank you. It's just kind of something where I'm hoping to move on from. Okay. Can we please finish the game? I want to hear more about like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Your career is fascinating to me. As a host, I just want to get some more out of your experience. Sure, sure, sure. Okay. You know, if this is the worst hour of your life, you're good. What's the best hour of your life? Thank you. But didn't feel genuine, but I'll answer that.
Starting point is 00:42:49 What's the best hour of your life? That's a good question. Thanks. Best hour of my life. I don't fucking know. That's a weird thing. I don't want to do this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Describe it. But you have it. Transport me. You're there. You're there right now, aren't you? I think something's holding you back from sharing it. I think it doesn't feel like a fun place to share, right? I think it feels maybe a little vulnerable to talk about.
Starting point is 00:43:22 The best hour of my life? Take us there with you. Yes. Where are we, Angola? It's Angela. Angela. Perfect. Where are we, Angela?
Starting point is 00:43:39 There you go. You got it. Okay. We are, let's see here. Okay, we're in Italy Surprise, surprise What does that mean? What does that mean? It means
Starting point is 00:43:59 He's really surprised He's like really, he's extra surprised I'm surprised that you even started to answer Something you've been reluctant to do the whole episode And I'm surprised at what the answer was So I'm saying surprise surprise, surprise Now the audience notes two surprises on that Okay, cool, just thank you for
Starting point is 00:44:16 indulging me. I just wanted to know. Okay, I'm 14. Okay. I'm with my family. Mm-hmm. Um, and we meet that we go to this small village. Can we meet family please? Mm-hmm. What'd you say? Can we meet family please? Cast of characters. I don't want to fucking do this. Okay. We have my uncle. We have my aunt. No, no. I don't want to do this. Is Nona there? Nona wasn't there. I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:45:01 What's El Ducce mean? That's what you call your uncle there. El Ducce. The stinker. The stinker? El Ducce. The stinker. We had pasta.
Starting point is 00:45:17 We all got drunk. It was really sweet. I was 14. In an hour? Jesus Christ. Jesus. You guys go hard. Fuck, dude.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Wow. I don't even think we got drunk. I was 14. You went to Italy and had pasta. Got drunk in one hour. God damn. Your family is fucked. What's the best hour of your life, huh?
Starting point is 00:45:42 Wow. I mean, and I would have said probably this. Yeah. You're kidding. This has, to me, been just sharing with another artist and, like, expanding our community learning about YouTube and having a fun playing game which I'm obsessed on and and getting to be Wilma with my friend and you know all of that has been really fulfilling and I also don't like to like sharing Wilma like what it means like within this game we've never that's like really
Starting point is 00:46:21 really we've never done that we've always talked about it so that was a big opportunity, learning to pronounce Angela. And I would say too, like, when I say the best hour of your life and someone says, I don't want to make any assumptions, but, you know, 20 years ago, that doesn't feel good. Like, that is really sad to me. What? Yeah. So, like, for me to say it's.
Starting point is 00:47:00 right now like that's good did you were you seen what Kevin was mouthing when you were telling the story you were mouthing something Kevin or were you mouthing you want to see yeah oh okay you're it was a big yikes for Kevin what Kevin was mouthing so I think it's kind of bonkers that you would think this hour has been fun for me has been a blast or has been memorable at all and okay counterpoint it was Bye That was a hit gum podcast

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