Hollywood Handbook - Angela Giarratana & Patrick McDonald, Our Artists on Artists Friends
Episode Date: June 2, 2026The Boys settle in for what should be a very easy episode with one half of the Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists podcast, ANGELA GIARRATANA and PATRICK MCDONALD. Get a Hat Pack Hat here! Check ...out Sean and Hayes’s bonus shows at Patreon.com/HollywoodHandbook Listen on the iHeartRadio App!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This should be easy.
Sorry, what are you going to say?
I just, cards on the table.
Yeah.
Like, what is this?
Like, what?
But I think this should be easy.
It should be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I think it should be.
We're told it's artist on artist, on artists on artists.
Sure, sure.
Yeah.
Which we're a fan of the show.
Yeah, yeah.
I haven't seen you two on it.
Oh.
Oh.
Just the other two that...
That's interesting.
I also am a fan of the show.
Mm-hmm.
I didn't think there were this many people on it.
Oh.
Mm-hmm.
And then you're like, there's a whole cast.
It's like a show.
It's like a real show.
It's like a huge show or something.
It's...
We're talking quantity of person on screen?
This is a lot of guys!
How many episodes have you done now?
We're at about 227 or 228.
How many guys is on there?
It's...
Usually it's a cast.
So that's actually what is fucking me up right now.
And what is?
Because I hear it's artists on artists on artists and artists.
Yeah.
I get I'm not gonna say it.
I'm not gonna.
I'll let him say the name of the show because I get nervous doing that many in a row.
I mess up.
And I did mess up a little bit.
I don't know if that.
No, you said it.
But this should be easy, I think, overall, other than the title and once we get sort of the,
And bolts and bolts.
Because what we actually ended up with is artists on artists on nobody on jack shit.
Yeah.
Sure.
That's what we, that's what I'm looking at here.
That's what you're seeing.
For sure.
Yeah.
By the way, you're the artist.
So that's not a bad thing necessarily for you.
That's a bad thing for us just in terms of our expectation for what the episode was going to be.
But the thing I always like to say about doing an episode like this is this should be easy.
because we have an opportunity here.
God, it really should be.
Yeah.
We have an opportunity here, I think,
to kind of diagnose what's been going wrong.
Yeah.
Get under the hood.
Yeah.
Fix this bad bird so we can all kind of succeed, right?
Oh, I thought we were here to, sorry, did you want to do the thing?
Yeah, if I could just talk for like one second.
Can you give me a hands?
You could just let me talk for one second.
Where, for you guys?
Because I'd love to do that.
I agree it's an opportunity.
to get under the hood.
What I'm terrified of right now
is what this actually is,
is Angie, you have come back on the show
with a guy who you think can kick our ass.
Interesting.
And instead of...
So that's what you thought this is.
Instead of...
Oh, I have this other podcast.
Do you?
I don't even like fucking...
I'm a fan of the show.
I actually think it's cool.
200-something episodes in,
you must be doing something right.
I haven't seen.
you guys on it and I don't really know who is
on it. That's so interesting. Yeah.
Could it be instead like, oh, I have this other
podcast and instead it's you
bringing on some of some kind of
enforcer. Yes. Oh, I'm
on it. I mean, I'm on it. You know, I've been on it a bunch
and I do a lot of... You've been on a bunch?
I've been on every episode, yeah.
So I...
Why did you say a bunch? Let's mail that
on the hand signal thing because that
didn't feel over here. You didn't give a
hand signal. Yeah, but we didn't know what
it was though. You said
hand signal and for all I know,
You want something vulgar or obscene.
Do you want me to prescribe a hand signal?
No, do this and I can speak.
How's that?
Is that cool?
I do that sometimes, though.
Okay, so we can just think you don't do that.
Do you want to go down then?
When you go down, it's me?
I don't know.
I don't feel good to me.
What about like, um, like.
And this is just feeding into my, what I'm so terrified of.
Yeah, I'm scared too.
Because you've brought someone who's immediately like, let's bring our hands into it.
Right?
Let's start swinging our hands around at each other.
And then when all of a sudden those hands are, you know, wrapped around my tender throat, I have no recourse.
Well, no one's doing that yet.
Because I have, you know, in fact, willingly engaged in this dynamic where we are discussing where our hands might go.
Somehow he made me think it was my idea.
Yeah.
I think it's important for me to bring up coming on last time was so fun, right?
And I really wanted to come on again.
And I'm saying that genuinely.
She wouldn't stop talking about it.
I wouldn't, right?
So you admit you were on.
Yeah, I thought I was.
Okay, great.
Richie, your witness.
I thought I was.
Thank you.
Thank you, Richie.
I appreciate that.
So it would be kind of crazy to have 200 episodes plus of a podcast that's fake just so I could bring on a friend to defend me, right?
So it's like a real podcast.
Fight you also.
It's a real podcast.
I don't think it would be defense because, frankly, we've never done anything wrong.
Defense implies that you are being defended against some sort of attack when actually all we did was do our show normal and you kind of acted like.
something inappropriate was happening.
So, like, I did kind of want to bring something up,
but I don't know if I should bring it up this early.
Yeah, lay it on.
His scarf.
His scarf?
Let's talk about it.
Talk about his scarf?
He's wearing a scarf around his neck.
Mm-hmm.
Do you think this is what we do on our podcast where we improvised costumes and stuff?
Is that what you're doing?
He's wearing a scarf.
His throat's very tender.
Are you taking 101?
Yes, and he's wearing a scarf and he's wearing a hat.
Like, what do you want me to do?
So your podcast is fake?
It's improvised.
Because we play characters.
Okay.
I'm not wearing a hat.
No, you're not wearing a scarf.
I don't understand what I don't understand what.
People you say you're wearing a scarf?
No, of course I'm wearing a scarf.
You're not wearing a scarf.
I don't see a scarf.
He's throat is tender, and he has actually an arrangement with his wife where they can be together as long as she never removes the scarf.
Okay.
All right.
Isn't that like an old poem?
Oh, God.
They covered a lot.
Wait, no, wait, no, wait.
Those old poems covered quite a bit of ground.
Can you recite it?
The poem?
It sounds so good.
No.
It's a poem about...
His old scarf?
It's a poem about a husband who can never remove his scarf.
Isn't there a podcast?
Not a podcast.
It's either a podcast or a poem.
Oh, God.
So the thing I wanted to bring up, it's not the scarf that you.
That whole podcast sounds really good too.
It's about someone who works.
It has to get in here and solve this.
The former U.S. Poet Laurey, Amanda Gorman, could solve this for us.
And has a podcast as well.
Amanda Gorman
Mystery.
It might be her
podcast like the
Amanda Gorman
Mysteries.
Incredible.
Incredible truth
crime podcast.
I love Amanda
Gorman Mysteries
is so
It's down to cold cases
so gnarly.
Yeah.
And really fresh ones.
It's always
freshly cold.
She's at the scene.
I love that.
No, I'm starting to wonder
if she's committing
some of these crimes.
Yes.
It's how she gets in there.
Just to have a new episode
every day.
I love what scheme is this.
It works for both
because it's poetry
and it's poetry.
It's poetry and it's crime.
Yes, yeah.
So the thing I wanted to bring up was
This is what the show is, right?
The scheme.
Yes.
Bifurcating the word scheme
to apply to both ideas
like finding that common language.
Yes, that's what he does on the show.
I did a little bit of wordplay.
Is that okay?
You guys do that?
You tell me.
I love it.
I'm saying that's what the show is.
You're trying to figure out what our show is.
And if.
It's hard to tell, right?
And if.
You know what's crazy?
We've been a part of this network
for like,
we've been a part of this network
for like three weeks
I'm going to call some university housing commission that's in charge of hazing because I feel like
I feel like we're like in trouble for being here like I'm like this is hazing like I heart this
is hazing if you call them if you call they don't know the wordplay the universe I'm not doing
word play don't call the university housing commission right now because my phone's almost out of
batteries okay that's right does that make you the university yeah that's right so you're the
University Housing Commission for I Heart.
And health services.
Okay.
So if you are feeling dizzy.
I don't think he's...
All right, well, here's the thing I wanted to bring up.
And don't call for Cluck U delivery either if you want.
Cluck you.
Yeah, that's the chicken wing place.
Hot chicken place.
And that's your phone.
Yeah.
Don't call for Cluck you delivery.
I can't take any orders right now.
Okay.
He's doing a podcast.
I'm in the middle of a podcast.
Not interested in.
Like Cluck University?
Cluck University, yeah.
That's where you get the hot chicken from when you're on campus.
They made it a hot chicken kind of recently.
Cluck University?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Okay.
See, obviously he's upset, right?
So I couldn't have brought him on to protect me because, look, he's already, you've already beaten him down.
He even brought the thing up.
He had a thing you wanted to bring up.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's too early, but we could hear it.
We can wait.
That's fine.
Do you have a run now?
Seems like they're giving you the hand signal.
Okay, so here's the thing.
Jeremy and Kylie were going to come.
They got an email really, really quickly.
And they said, we are not, we don't need you to.
Can we get the TikTok on this straight?
They got an email really, really quickly from when?
Earlier today.
They said, we're actually doing the Hollywood Handbook Pride episode.
We only want the queer people to come.
So we found out this is the Pride one.
So that's why my question is like you canceled the straight one so that you could do a pride one.
You kicked them out June 1st, right?
It's June 1st.
So you had us.
Did you just find out we were queer
and you wanted to do a pride episode?
And you told them to stay home?
We don't know which two is which is kind of the thing.
So we're going to release it when we figure that out.
Can I say?
We just know that's the line.
Can I say this?
When you're attacking me seemingly going like,
did you just find out that we're queer and that's why we're here for pride?
If I'm just finding out, not that much pride, right?
That's, wow.
That's really interesting.
How are you if I'm just fighting out now?
It's already 6 p.m. I just want to say.
You are me?
You think I'm not proud.
I'm not talking about it enough.
If you're really proud, I would probably know.
It's been pride for literally 18 hours.
Somebody on your team sent me an email and said,
it's pride, sis.
It's pride episode.
Bring it in, sis.
Kevin saying sis is not a pride specific thing.
Clap, clap, clap, clap.
Go off, guys.
And make sure you give it.
Kevin calls his baby son, sis was also CIS, I believe, and that's Kevin's signature.
Oh, he writes sin.
Oh, he just puts that as a cis man.
That's how he identified.
Okay.
So that was just his email signature.
Yeah, it was his email signature.
But yeah, no, I just think it's important that we brought up why the other two on our podcast aren't here today.
Yeah.
Yeah, great.
Yeah, we know that because we set it up that way.
Yeah, but he didn't know that.
Well, the thing is, honestly, a lot of the logistics and the sort of organizational elements of the podcast,
have slipped by the wayside.
Click You is taking off right now.
It has become such a massive time suck for me.
And I'm so proud of what we've been able to build our little team.
And congrats, by the way.
I'm congrats.
Making the chicken hot.
Yeah.
It's like, but.
It's on another level.
I've had to take a step back from.
Because it was very creamy before.
Oh.
It was.
It was.
It's crazy.
I'm now just coming to.
This is exactly what happened when I came on there.
It takes me 10 minutes to like accolade.
So you admit it.
I'm admitting that I wasn't...
That she did the podcast before.
Yes.
She's done it, yes.
Thank you, Richie.
And it took me 10 minutes to literally get this flow, and now I finally got it.
Yeah.
And I just want to tell you I'm here.
Oh, welcome to the show.
It should be easy, but for some reason it never feels that way.
Are your chair arms okay?
One of them fell down.
And like, it just like, it just fell.
And this is like the Hulk.
Yes, you know, the Hulk, like, right before the Hulk transforms.
I definitely could have been.
It's crunch.
I bet you guys could kick my ass faster than I could kick your ass.
Boys, boys, boys.
It's such a trap.
No.
I know.
And I've accepted a bet, right?
So then it's like, I, again, I'm complicit in whatever ends up happening to me physically.
No.
It's so smart.
Not falling for this again.
He's just a little bit smarter.
We just had anaconcalo.
And he's one of my partners.
She beat you up?
She beat you guys up?
I mean, yeah.
And that's literally the last time that's going to happen.
That's it.
I don't want to.
I don't want to do that.
I don't want to do that.
So this is the pride episode?
We were told it is.
Pride fighting.
All right.
Five for fighting?
Pride fighting.
Pride fighting.
Pride fighting.
Yeah, like UFC Pride fighting.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Pride.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Regular Ken Shamrock over here.
Mm-hmm.
What's that?
UFC Pride Fighter.
Oh, okay.
Mm-hmm.
Different month.
He's associated with a different.
Yeah, probably a different month, yeah.
Ken Shamrock?
That's a, is that a real person or some sort of 80s cartoon reference I wouldn't get?
Because you didn't have a TV or something?
I don't watch that stuff.
I don't know.
What am I sent you up for?
I don't know.
What's a story?
Where were you in the 80s?
I just genuinely don't know who, I don't know who gets Shamrock in the 80s.
You're like your parents were on a base in Guam.
I just didn't know the character you were talking about.
Okay.
I just didn't know you're talking about.
Like, I'm just like coming into like.
I'm genuinely asking because like when I figure out of this is the queer episode or not,
like I am just kind of like feeling out like how to be.
So you would act differently if it was the queer episode is what you're saying?
I would know the answers instead of like, you know,
now I just have the questions.
I just literally don't know who Ken Shamrock is.
Is that like an MFA fighter?
Or was it a joke on a word?
Was a UFC pride fighter?
I'm not, I'm actually not trying to trick anyone.
Okay.
That's actually, that's sort of a weird thing I do on the show is like, just, I call it like I see it.
No trick and just chicken.
Just fucking balls and strikes, man.
It's like, whatever I'm laying out, like, that's just like, whatever I'm laying out.
Like, that's just like, what you see is what you get.
I'm a straight shooter.
And I am not trying to like, get.
get you into some kind of corner where you agree,
I guess that a real person was a cartoon character.
I don't know what you think the game is, honestly.
I just didn't know who it was.
And I just thought, is there a wordplay going on here?
Like, I didn't know if there was something.
No, that's your, you'll be in charge of that.
I'm not kind of deed doing that.
You'll be in charge of that.
If you want to hang here, like, you're going to have to know, like,
what's word playing.
And what's not?
I mean, like, this is eye heart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you guys have any tips?
Yeah.
We're kind of just doing the same thing.
We pool them here.
That's a good, I mean, that's a good start to like talk about.
We pool tips.
Oh, you pull tips.
Speaking of tips.
Did they not have that conversation with you?
Okay.
It's a really nice community to be a part of if you actually join it.
There's a tip share.
If you actually participate.
Okay, okay.
That's interesting.
But then there is a little element of like, you kind of feel like you're doing the podcast.
and you're like doing all the work.
And now Richie is taking like my
exactly the same share of tips.
Equal portion of the tip, but you can't get bogged down in that.
You can't look at it that way.
I mean, I'm going to say, we're all here for the same.
He's contributing something to, I don't know what it is.
He's witnessed to Angie.
I haven't been on the show before.
And what I'll say to is.
And that was something to witness.
Yeah.
It was.
And what I'll say two is, you know,
We're all here with the same goal in mind.
And I mean all of us.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is to make a great fucking podcast.
Right.
Yeah.
Now I get it.
And whether it's the artists on the artists on the artists and artists and there.
Sure, sure, sure.
Whether it's Hollywood Anbook or whether it's whatever Richie does, you know.
Yeah.
The end goal is, let's make great podcast.
So if we end up pulling the tips because we're all rowing in the same direction,
I think that's actually pretty cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think it's something to get on board for.
And I don't think we should necessarily be saying,
oh, there should be a separate queer tip.
Right.
Oh, I don't think either of us said that.
No, because it would obviously be less, right?
So we wouldn't want that.
I'm just curious if Cluck You is also part of the tip share.
So when somebody tips, that is the plan.
Mm-hmm.
When you guys haven't gotten a tip for Cluck U yet?
So when they do tip Cluck U.
The plan is...
When that tip hits,
that's what we've been discussing for sure.
Really?
That's the plan that's in place.
And when the tip hits,
Mama look out.
It's going to be a big one for us.
We just don't, you know, we don't get tips on our podcast.
We have crew that we pay.
Fuck.
What?
Really?
Yeah, when are you guys collecting the tips?
Like, is there a link or something?
There's like, as people listen, like, it's in the app.
Like as people listen in every podcast app, there's like a little.
A tip button?
Yeah, there's like a little button.
If you like people press as fast as possible.
Like what you're hearing?
There's a little guy that pops up too.
Like what you're hearing?
Like a tip.
Does he get tipped?
Yeah, he's like a sort of like a talking hat.
Oh.
Cool.
It's like clippy, but it's like a hat.
Yeah, it's the I heart hat.
Okay, cool.
These are good people to know.
The I heart hat.
Yeah.
I didn't know anything about the iron hat.
Yeah.
I've never even seen it.
Is it just like a red hat?
He says, like what you're hearing?
It's not red.
I mean, I guess it could be.
You want it to be a red hat?
She's asking if it's red.
I guess that's like very like kind of maga to me,
which if that's like your whole thing,
I don't like that's like a one color of hat.
I guess I haven't done really any research into your background,
but it's,
yeah, but a red hat.
Maga.
I'm sorry.
I'm not maga.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
I don't.
I didn't.
I didn't.
Yeah.
Sorry for a disrespect.
You already said it.
You didn't offend me and I wasn't protecting them.
Okay?
And that was fucked up the way he turned that on me.
We'll get it right back time.
I've never really talked to people about it.
Like I've like read it on a hat and been like,
that's not for me, but you apparently have like a much greater.
Don't you do this. Don't put me there.
Kind of relationship with this.
We don't need people where it's like, no, it's this.
No.
You know.
I'd literally ever.
Hey, you're supposed to protect.
I'm trying.
I'm trying.
I'm trying.
Okay.
Listen, all I'm saying is, all I'm saying is when you want to know the enemy, you have to know the enemy.
You want to take them down, you have to know everything about them.
So, you know, she's curious and interested in about pronunciation.
Did you say that the enemy or the henemy?
Because the henemy is the sort of hamburger of cluck you.
Of cluck you?
We know that.
We know that.
The enemy is.
I actually have seen the enemy.
The henemy.
It's this really sassy, sassy chicken that's trying to steal all the chicken.
And it's sad, right?
She's trying to, she thinks she has.
Oh, it's a woman.
She's a scientist.
She's trying to bring the chicken back to life that's been killed.
Yes.
Yes, she's a widow and a scientist and she believes that she could sort of re.
What is her relationship to the university?
She's trying to destroy Cluck U.
She's stealing the chicken from Cluck U.
And Dean.
Cluck University.
And the Dean?
Mm-hmm.
Is the Dean like barbecue sauce or something?
No, it's the enemy.
Okay, sorry.
Yeah, okay, okay.
Yeah.
Got it.
She's misusing her power to steal all the chicken from cooking.
Oh, yeah, because she would immediately.
campus security would arrest her immediately if she wasn't the dean.
Think about it.
Stealing chicken and we all know who it is?
No.
No,
that's illegal.
But she's the dean.
She also has tons of access to the labs and the science department.
The key card gets around anywhere.
Every single room in the middle.
So she's able to use all the science equipment to try to reconstitute her dead husband out of the chicken that she steals.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they were divorced by his choice.
Really?
So it's much worse.
Yeah, but she's hanging on to, like, thought that they were going to rekindle something.
Oh my God, they had no kids or anything?
I think they had, like, 100 or something.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
They had a kid every day.
Oh, they had a kid every day.
They were married for 100 days.
For 100 days?
Yeah.
For 100 days they had a kid every day.
So just one kind of a year of love.
Sounds like a dual.
Because she's still a hen.
Like, is that like...
If a hen is having no kid, like you're talking, she literally had never laid a single egg for like 100 days.
It's like, you know,
this sounds like, still a farmer.
Okay.
This literally sounds like a story you'd learn, like, in Spanish,
in a Spanish class.
Like, a handhead.
She had a kid for a hundred days.
Like, you're hitting all the target words.
This doesn't make them kind of sense.
Well, you know,
I don't think it's a bad thing to learn about other cultures
and other languages.
Yeah, I think that's actually.
I love Spanish. I actually do.
No, he does, he does.
But thank you.
So, okay, so the hat, the tipping.
Any other tips you have?
Do you talk about how he loves Spanish?
No, I just know that about him.
I've done him for a bunch of years.
I feel like fetishizing it or something, doesn't it?
Yes.
What?
That just feels like...
Well, we were saying it's not a bad thing to learn about other cultures,
and then he was like, I love Spanish, and you were like, he does, yeah.
I went, he does.
I didn't go, he does.
People can play it back.
I'll just say right now.
Play it back.
I also love Spanish.
Have I ever once brought up how I love Spanish to you?
No, I guess I believe that you do, but it's not just something that you've, like,
made me deal with.
If that's like something that you're experiencing, you're doing it at home.
Well, you don't seem like someone who vocalizes gratitude a lot.
And maybe that might be an issue.
Like, maybe you should try to vocalize things you like.
Like, I think it's nice to kind of say out in the universe what you like and, you know, give a moment to that is what I would say.
Is that what your show is?
No, our show is improvised.
No, it's just like to like...
Character's comedy.
Yeah.
We kind of like to make fun of Hollywood a little bit.
Make fun of, like, yeah.
I mean...
Who's that for?
I mean, just like, honestly, like a bunch of like Scottish 17-year-olds.
They love it.
They love it.
They love it.
And we love them.
Yeah.
Do you imagine like living at fringe?
Do you imagine like being a kid?
Yeah.
And during the fringe.
Like during Scotland.
That would be fun.
Yeah.
And like on the main part of it, your kid.
It's.
It's Scotland.
And now it's fringe.
You're a kid at, and fringe is like at your house.
Yeah, it does certainly sounds fun.
Yeah.
Do you guys think, yeah.
Oh, you mean like the festivals like by near you?
It's like at Scotland.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, I knew that.
They're doing it there.
No.
I feel like I literally.
I feel like I'm literally like I can't.
See, I knew it.
No.
I knew that's what.
I just told me had a little something on my nose.
Do you think he's protecting me?
No, I think that you're on drugs.
Okay.
I think that you were both doing drugs before,
and that's why this episode has been so confusing.
We weren't doing drugs.
It was so, first of all, he's got his eye out for it.
It was so quick the way it went away,
and it was not something from your body that was in your nose.
It was something else.
I mean...
It was an iceberg fell out of there.
No, it was not...
I'm not on cocaine.
God.
damn fucking glacier.
I have cocaine.
And it was like pretty uncomfortable for me to be looking at.
But whatever.
People can make whatever choices they want.
I'd rather not have an impact the podcast episode because like I said,
at high heart,
we all kind of have the same goal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you say that before?
Which is to make a great.
He spent a long in a house.
Yeah, we just want to do a good show, right?
I guess it is helpful to say again because he didn't hear.
We do all have the same goal here.
We just want to make a great podcast.
Can I make a great damn podcast?
Yeah.
I just want to be clear.
I'm going to be the first one to do it.
Yeah, I love that.
I just want to be clear, I am not on drugs.
She's not on drugs.
Because it didn't get all the way in.
It fell out.
She wasn't.
She wasn't trying to be on drugs and isn't.
She's not on drugs.
And I'm not on drugs.
Okay?
And the fact that this is the Pride episode and you accuse us
to being on drugs is honestly offensive.
Yeah, that's a good point.
It's not that immediate that we've talked.
I mean, like.
Yeah, we're pretty deep into it.
It came up somewhat organically when the drugs.
drugs came falling out of your nose.
And I would say that people within the LGBT community probably are free to enjoy drugs just
like anyone else.
Don't jump over that last one.
You jumped over Q.
LGBTQ community.
Believe me.
You're putting it straight to a community.
It's all about the LGBTQ community.
And that's one of yours kind of moves, isn't it?
I mean, I liked it.
But the community, I think, I think, don't go to humanity.
Don't call it.
It's free.
Within you, don't do that.
It's free to partake in, and substance is the same way the whole rest of the population is I don't think I should not be allowed to talk about it just because it's a particular episode.
He's doing an entire promotion.
We've done straight episodes where we've accused people of being on drugs and we're doing this episode and accused people of being on drugs.
I don't know why it would be any different.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Cluck you.
leg
gizzard
breast
thigh
quuck
you're giving out a full cluck
plus
and the plus is like
sides
yeah
like uh
meal deal
the cluck's a little weird
I bought
that got that before
a quuck
a quok
clock
you look a clock
a clock
clock
clock
clock
you sell the
you sell the clock
and let's be honest
it's the tongue
it's the chicken's tongue
fried tongue
Yeah.
The quack is?
The clock is.
See, I feel like I'm fucking...
Would it surprise you that maybe I thought about I needed to do drugs before this episode?
Mm-hmm.
How does that make you feel?
Does that make you feel like...
But you couldn't figure it out or like...
Well, obviously, they fell out.
Yeah.
Would that surprise me?
I guess for me to be surprised by that, I would have had to come in with some expectation of, like,
what you're doing or what you're thinking.
thinking about before.
And that's simply not my world.
And I don't mean this to be, you know, insulting in any way.
But literally you did not exist before the episode started.
And the second it had to cease to exist again.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
And you're saying that on the Pride episode.
It's nothing personal.
I say this to all of our guests.
It has nothing to do.
You said this to everyone.
You said this to Riz Ahmed.
Multiple times.
Wow.
He kept interrupting me.
I think you let him.
I think when Riz Ahmed comes in,
you guys have some amazing guests that are coming on right now.
And you think we talk over them?
No, I don't think you talk over them,
but I think a little bit of a moment of gratitude
to be like, hey, it's we are really,
whoa, we're punching in.
of in a new class right now.
You know what I mean?
I'm not counting us.
Punching you talking about.
This again.
It's so subtle.
Yes.
I actually admire it because I do let my guard down in a way.
I did have a bit of a temper when I was a kid and this is kind of riling me off a little bit.
The idea that you think I would fight, because I've always been a little bit bigger, been bigger than other people.
When did you stop have a temper?
When did I stop have a temper?
I don't think I ever stop have a temper.
Oh, Patrick.
But you just said it was when you...
When I was a kid, I did not control it.
When I was a kid, hey, hey, hey, hey, don't rile him up.
When I was a kid, I chose, I couldn't control it.
Okay?
I had some issues.
I did.
This is a real story, and I can't believe I'm telling it.
When I was in first grade, this kid cut in front of me, and I was really upset.
Same was Max Magoo.
This is real.
Magoo?
Max Magoo.
Mr. Magoo.
M.C.
Perhaps he didn't see you.
No.
He saw me.
And he was, I think I, he was screaming at me.
We got a bit of an altercation and I pulled his cheeks.
I said, yeah, and I just, and I had to go to.
Like this?
Yeah.
And he started crying and I had to go eat with the assistant's whole face came off.
You took Matt's McHugh's face off?
Oh no.
Oh, that's how Mr. McGoo lost his vision.
He took his eyes out.
He pulled his cheeks so hard.
He went blind.
No, but I did.
I had to control myself.
I started breathing doing some breathing exercises.
I started controlling that.
But I used to be backed into corner.
and get upset and I would and I would lash out and so I am feeling that a little bit right now.
I'm trying to control that I'm okay but if you want a fighter what do you got a fighter you know what I mean
I'm saying he's learned since then like what a vulnerable thing to like give right okay I personally prefer to
come from a piece of vocalizing gratitude I was doing that earlier that's that's kind of
I have a vocalized gratitude.
I vote class of
Spanish.
You guys,
neither of you were doing that.
Oh,
I always am doing that.
9 10 minutes ago.
From the very beginning,
I've done that.
That's bullshit.
And I think I've been doing it
literally this entire podcast.
Like,
just the fact that you
will like completely cease to exist
like the second you,
like the door clicked.
You're grateful for that?
I'm grateful for you existing right now.
Isn't it nice to be able to share this
unbelievable sense of community
everyone you know as I said
rowing in the same direction
yes trying to be for me and him
you know what I mean
like it's for us
of course we're grateful
I don't know if it feels like you are
yeah let's say something you're grateful
I said I love Spanish
Angela is this something you
thank you
I'm grateful
I heard it as well
I'm grateful for I heart
Okay.
Bringing us all together today.
That is awesome.
Okay.
That's mine as well.
You can't take money.
You have to be grateful for something on your own.
I'm grateful.
I'm grateful.
I'm going to be grateful for Iheart.
Okay.
Okay.
You just showed up.
Okay.
What are you grateful for?
I'm grateful for Philip.
The hat's name is.
Oh, the Iheart hat?
Yeah, you know why.
His name Philip?
Yeah, you know why?
Philip a hat.
Fill up.
Oh, tip.
Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
Cool.
And, yeah.
And it's good to say that you're grateful to him
because what comes out of the hat is kind of like a fill-up decision,
what he breaks off.
It was equal.
It's equal once it comes out of the hat, you know?
But he chooses when it comes out.
Well, the hat doesn't get dispersed until it has been filled up.
And he's in charge of that.
Sometimes it feels like capacity seems to be nearly infinite
in terms of how much Philip can hold
before he does release some of those funds.
Interesting.
Okay.
And you're grateful for Philip.
Okay, great.
We were all grateful for something.
Yeah, let's all be great for.
And he's queer also.
You seem to be very into like who's queer,
who was a queer.
Yeah, I mean, it was never our goal to out Philip on the podcast,
the I heart hat, you know.
The I heart hat is queer.
Since you're demanding to know everyone.
Do you know a letter?
Could you shed you?
I just said it.
I literally just said it.
He's a cue?
He's part of the community?
Community.
Yes.
Okay, cool.
And yes, he's married to a woman hat.
Okay.
Is that like, is that okay?
No, that's fine.
Is he allowed to be?
Yeah, of course.
He's married to a woman hat.
It doesn't minimize him to us.
And he says he would never, ever be with anyone who's not.
A woman?
Yeah, a woman.
I can't debate.
The I heart radio's hat sexuality.
If the I'm literally not.
I'm literally not suggesting you do.
No, no, no, your eyes got really big and you went.
Okay.
You're baiting.
He's only been.
You're baiting.
He's only been.
You're baiting.
With her.
No, I didn't say that.
No, he's been with other women hats.
He's been with many, many other women hats.
He's been with, yeah, he's been.
Outside of his marriage.
Outside of his marriage.
He's in an open marriage.
Or he's been out.
He's been unfaithful.
It's like the hat.
It's open one way.
One of those.
And his wife is a hat or a woman?
His wife is a woman hat
Okay, sorry, sorry to separate those
Women can be hats
Yes, yes
Yeah
Okay, great, I'm learning so much
But all of the women outside of his marriage are women
Like real women, human women
Human women
Oh
So she's a bonnet and then he's sleeping with like regular women
Yeah, and he's a hat
And using like
Using his position here
What?
Using his position
I mean literally
He's not heavily implying to get them a show at IHard.
Oh, really?
Or break him off some extra tips and stuff.
She reminds me of the nefarious Dean, Henemy.
Just all these, anyone who gets a taste of power, you know,
seems to immediately turn around and wield it.
No, I was literally thinking, IHR hat Phillips giving Hennamy.
Yeah.
No, it's very damaging.
It is, it corrupt.
It really does.
but anyway
Hennemy using it for sex as well
in such a confusing way
because like
so focused on
reanimating her divorced husband
Oh we're back to clock
Yeah
I'm talking
Sorry I know I know
I'm just like I'm just tracking
Sorry I'm just tracking
Because we're I don't know anything about this chicken place
What? What?
I'm asking them
Like we literally just
Like we've just been talking about
Henning
Anything about it
I was just clarify
I do want to can I say something really quick
When you do that kind of stuff
When you look to the audience
that's actually violence against women.
Because you're inciting.
When you go to boys?
No.
Yeah, that's scary.
You can't do that kind of stuff.
No.
It's the women, all the women on the other side are,
when I look at them like this,
they're like,
every single woman out there.
I don't know about that.
Yeah.
I don't know about that.
They're all like this.
They're like, not my circus.
By the way, we told you we were going to need this hand gesture,
didn't we?
There you can start speaking.
Now I can speak.
Now you can talk.
No, we didn't.
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I did have a question about for you guys talking about power changing people, Philop,
Henry, et cetera.
Do you think it's changed you guys?
You guys have become a little different now that you guys are bigwigs?
I think I have become more gratitude for having so much crazy-ass power.
You can't become gratitude.
You can't be more gratitude.
You can be more grateful.
I think I have grateful.
Okay, okay.
Because you have all this power.
Because I have my power that I love.
I just want to say, thank you for sharing that.
Hearing you say that is giving me have so much gratitude.
And power too.
And power.
It makes me a little barf.
And it feels like words are just falling out as they come out.
Like words are just, there's just holes missing.
Like drugs coming out of my nose.
Like big chunks of cocaine falling out of my nose.
Like big chunks of cocaine falling out of my nose.
Yeah.
You know how damaging that is?
On I heart radio.
I do know how damaging that is.
To say I'm doing drugs.
To a woman's brain.
I don't know how damaging is.
That's why I don't do it.
Yes.
I'm talking about the association with it.
These are your tools.
This is your toolbox.
You don't get another one of these.
You can't just fill it with poison
and expect to keep being able to craft
these amazing imaginary worlds
that you do on your show,
which I'm a big fan of.
And I can't wait to see you guys on there.
Please, I'm begging you.
What are you begging?
What are you begging?
Don't do it for us.
Stop.
I'm not, I'm not.
Do it for, for Michael.
Who?
And Hester, what's the, what about Kylie and Jeremy?
Charlie and Kylie and Kylie.
Yes, okay.
The straight ones, yeah.
Michael and Hester.
Yeah.
Okay, I appreciate that.
I just, I don't know, I care a lot.
You don't have to appreciate it.
I hope for their sake, they never have a desire to experiment or anything because you're
really walling it.
Without them even here to.
offend themselves. You're really walling off that opportunity. You're on record now on IHart,
a big, big network just saying, like, they're the straight ones. I want to be clear, we didn't
do that. You guys sent an email that said, just the queer ones were doing a pride episode.
So Patrick, we made a poopsie. Clap, clap. Yeah. You're coming in on June 1st. Leave the other two
home. Can I finally say something? Patrick, I haven't sent an email. I couldn't do it with a gun to
my head. I don't know how that fucking thing works. And for you to sit here and tell me that I sent the
email, well, sir, I don't like to do this, but you are a liar. I'm not saying you sent it,
but somebody on your behalf, you got to represent, you got to understand the people are representing
you heard him. What? Richie, you heard him. I didn't send it. You are the top of this thing.
Okay. And whether you like it or not, you have people that work for you that do things for you.
and you have to account for them.
They work with you.
They work with me.
We pull the tips.
Right.
We all pull the tips.
Well, they sent me something, and I think that you're, you know, you're responsible.
Kevin, Kevin reports to you.
Kevin, you guys work together.
Can you at least address him with respect the way we did you and call him sis?
Call him sis?
Yes.
Like C-I-S?
No.
That's Kevin.
You want us to call?
You want me to just call Sean Siss out of nowhere?
It's not out of nowhere.
We did it first.
You called me, sis?
Yeah, through the whole email.
Yeah.
Oopsie, we made a poopsie, sis.
Yeah.
All right.
Hey, be more responsible with your whole operation, sis.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you and gratitude for this as well.
You like being called, sis?
Thank you, sis.
and thank you as well, sis.
Did that change our relationship a little bit?
And gratitude as well.
Whoa, what's going on?
I don't know.
Thank you.
He loved being called cis.
Okay, what you're doing?
You honor me.
You honor me?
Do you want to be called cis too?
I mean, once or twice, it could be.
We could play around with this.
You want to play around with us.
You want to see how it feels.
I mean, take it around the block.
All right.
We don't know until we try.
Yeah, sure.
Why do you want to be called?
Kick the tires on calling, hey, sis, and see how we all feel about it.
For a couple sises in the midst?
If we don't want, we don't have to do it anymore.
I'd love to get a word in, sis.
How does that feel?
I think that when you did it with me, the sentence leading up to it was a little more.
I tried to do it like a little.
Generous.
Yeah, I think that what happened was there was an attack,
and it almost felt like you were trying to disguise it by sense.
I'd actually prefer you didn't try again.
Okay.
I prefer we just end it there.
The cis trying out?
I was really excited about it.
Because it really affected Sean.
It changed his whole thing.
No, I did.
I did try to do it like as a push.
Okay.
So Hayes is done.
So I think what's best right now when Hayes is done is that we should probably also wrap it up.
Because he's a big part of the show.
I mean, this is my partner.
And to see him so wounded, he was so vulnerable in that moment.
You know, he's been very gratitude this episode
and talked about his power in a way that was very open.
And to see him be vulnerable and really ask for something,
to ask for something and then to have...
To be reduced to cis.
You asked that.
He's literally asked you.
And now I'm a cis.
So you're pissed not at what I said before.
You're pissed that I called you sis.
I don't...
My entire body of work,
the hundreds and hundreds of episodes that we've done on this show,
you come in here and I'm just...
You just asked me to call you, sis.
I don't mean, I, but I support it.
Yeah, of course.
Hayes did that.
Yes.
You're saying I did that.
You said, can you call me sis?
The Hayes man did that.
Yeah, Hayesman did it.
You're confusing the hill out of me, sis.
How's that?
No, don't look at the army of women.
Don't talk to the army of women.
Don't talk to the army of women.
Ladies.
Stop it.
Ladies, am I crazy?
Help me out.
Like, come on.
No, stop.
No, don't do it down the barrel.
No, we need to talk to the game.
You know what they're saying.
You know, go ahead and let us know what you think.
Come on.
Some of the treatment that Hayes has gotten.
And please do, what's the phrase?
Yeah, subscribe.
Hayes, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Richie, you witnessed it.
Gratitude for this.
For this.
Gratitude for this.
I'm sorry.
Ciss.
Well, a heck of a welcome party.
And I do want to say,
again, the only thing I know for certain about your podcast at this point is two people don't show up.
So if you do ever have, if you do ever have an episode that you want to do with two,
sissies
whoa no
no
just because we called you
you can't close yourself a sissy
you don't want it didn't work
they're not allowed
they're not allowed on your show
sissy is a word that I have been
called in my life
when I was in Texas
games
games called smear the queer
where you hold a ball
and they beat you up
you ever play those games
that shit's real guys
yeah but that's not
part of this podcast
sissy
you're not a sissy
but what I will
ask, what I will ask is if you were to come on our episode, our podcast, we do a different
thing every episode. We'll do directors or writers. Would you guys want to make a fun of something
in Hollywood? Is there something you'd want to pick? Have you done actors before? Yeah, like,
who are our first episode of those actors? No, thanks. That was my main idea. What's your take on
actors? If you guys were to play a character? If you've done it, I don't really want to, like.
So you don't want to, so you, so we've done the one that you want to do, and now you won't do
any of you've done actors already we did actors we probably done actress 20 who did it yeah that was just
us you guys didn't it okay okay but it seized the opportunity I mean what were the two you said you've done
we've done directors and writers okay we did not actor or you've done actors we've done actors too
yeah we've done actors yeah they've done it okay yeah we had a lot of good stuff for that what would
be we could probably just do it like a different version like what kind of actors like yeah we've done that
too. We do like do like superhero villains.
What? What? Men.
Men actors? Oh, you want to do male actors?
Like a round table.
It's not exactly what I said, but.
You just want to do a roundtable of men?
Men actors.
Men actors.
I feel like I ruin the vibes.
Don't, you can't claim that.
No, I think it's my fault.
No, it's not.
I will say every other episode we've done has been pretty fun.
Like conversation.
Kind of nice.
Yeah.
It's been kind of nice.
It's been nice to be a part of for us.
I know for the guest.
I've been very comfortable on all the other episodes.
And the guest has always really had a good time.
Yeah, this one, it just, I don't know.
It just didn't feel.
And maybe something I'm bringing to it today.
And I don't.
I can take accountability.
Hey, maybe I'm a little off today.
I thought this was going to be an easy one.
I don't know if it's you.
I will say,
we did think it was the studio last time
and that precipitated our
having to leave the network.
And so that has at least been
been ruled out as
as we try to narrow it down.
The studio,
we have to scratch off the list
as the cause.
So that's the kind of stuff.
When you say shit like that,
I want to do drugs.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Do you want to come back?
No, don't.
do that. That would be so fucked.
Maybe Patrick comes back with a bigger guy.
With a bigger guy?
Even a bigger. Oh, no, no.
A bigger lady. She's right.
No, no. Don't.
A really big lady. And then
she comes back with a really big
guy. You want a Russian nesting
doll of gas? Yeah. Listen.
Switching off.
Don't fuck. Don't do this.
She's paying me $300 to kick your asses in the
parking lot to beat you up.
That is why. So if I beat you
up, will you still have me back? I said 200.
150 each or one each
200? I said 200
well I said 300 so are you gonna make me a liar
This has been the worst
fucking day in my life
Don't worry about it
It's today of gratitude for me
Day of gratitude
Today of gratitude
I mean maybe I just don't click with you guys
I'm sorry I'm sorry
It's okay
This is itchy bye
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in which there were more homages to enslavers than there were to enslave people.
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or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is Saigon, the story of my family.
and of the country that shaped us.
From IHeart Podcast, Saigon.
You don't think I'm serious about a free Vietnam?
One city, a divided country, and the war that tore America apart.
It's for Vietnam.
They're pouring patril all over here.
Freedom for Vietnam!
There's a fire coming to this country, and it's going to burn out everything.
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I actually drop better when I'm high.
It heightens my sense.
calms me down. If anything, I'm more careful. Honestly, it just helps me focus.
That's probably what the driver who killed a four-year-old told himself. And now he's in prison.
You see, no matter what you tell yourself, if you feel different, you drive different.
So if you're high, just don't drive. Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council.
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