Hollywood Handbook - Broti Gupta and Christine Nangle, Our Simpsons Friends

Episode Date: January 10, 2023

The Boys talk to BROTI GUPTA and CHRISTINE NANGLE about writing The Simpsons. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. you know across my entire body so i can photograph my skin for my derm and i uh get stuck two inch by two inch yeah why you do smaller uh no i do two inch by two inch. But for you, I can think of specific two inch square patches where I would want a little more specificity within that patch. Hang on a second, I'm getting a phone call. Is it your derm? Because if you just sent this in... Hello.

So, sorry. that was unrelated it's my derm yeah it is my derm that was your derm okay because some of the pictures and maybe you're gonna address i told him i told him hang on hayes is in the middle of a sentence and he said i'm sorry but okay you were saying something about a particular patch or particular section that was an issue i go two by two i know but i'm saying i can think of specific patches of yours where there's like multiple issues going on within the patch to the point where like i would actually want to do like a like a more fine-grained analysis because and i actually think your germ was calling you to say you're sorry about the about some of these patches because i that was my prediction that you would you would get like

a direct phone call from your derm as soon as the image was sent in and that they would say they were sorry well what well what what he's saying to me now is what he started to say before i told him to shut up and can whoever is over there shut up as well over where somebody something's happening where you are i can hear there's something making noise nope nothing here and this is when this is when i hope not i am podcasting right now and i don't like it for me i'm like i'm like surfing i'm an open water right now i don't hear any of this shit great this is my life i don't have a family when i'm doing this you know what i mean soon as as soon as this is over i'm all about my family if my if my wife tried to call me right now i

wouldn't even answer i'll answer my derm calls if my wife tried to call me right now i you know what i'd do click when i'm firing an empty gun at my phone just to let my phone know next one's loaded click click click you saw me put one in the chamber phone why don't you try again and bertha can talk about this too i guess now when i'm podcasting this comes off real quick real easy these things come off you know yeah i'm really glad you're saying that in a for a visual medium i'm talking about my hat he has a hat that says married man and when i'm podcasting he reveals his hat that comes off real easy hey you know what and it reveals it reveals your tattoo on your forehead that says podcaster only because we're going visual you know i've started

wearing this hat a lot in earnest i gotta say i i think it's i think it's me. I think I'm gonna do it. You're gonna be in Newsies? What's the name of that? Is its name Ernest? Nanglish is here, everybody. It's not just Rothy. Christine Nangle wrote these back. Check this out.

Okay, am I watchingeron crowe's singles what's going on here what is it a jeff cap technically yeah what is it it's a um is it a jeff cap after jeff daniels i don't know some people call it like a newsboy cap or like a driving cap um don't you think the Daniels the director should change their name to a Daniels at least why why would he do that in honor of Jeff Daniels are we really just gonna disrespect Jeff Daniels and say no no actually oh now this is the daniels oh jeff daniels has only been the daniels in hollywood for a long time that's true but i think the daniels i don't think that's their last name i okay no is that what you don't think oh is that what you don't think you're totally right what else

don't you think this is the podcast you come on and you say what you don't think yeah and and listen this is this is in honor of mike for bigley's improv movie this is the movie where you say what you don't think twice so give it to us one more time um i uh i don't wait which one do i not think that their first name is daniels or that it shouldn't this you're not making wow this is what the married version of you is i don't sorry i'm just i'm thinking about wife stuff i just thinking about wife stuff. I'm thinking about wife stuff. I'm thinking about all sorts of wife things. First of all, I'm thinking about dinners. I'm thinking about a warm meal for my family. I don't know.

I'm thinking about wife stuff. I just want to clarify. I'm thinking about wife stuff. That is dinners. Yeah. The warm that is dinners yeah the warm meal is dinner so whatever you were thinking about before was maybe was possibly not dinners yeah shouldn't you call them a dinners instead of like b dinners in honor of the dinners yeah well in honor of jeff jeff dinners yeah so brody's here with let's get into it dylan i guess is was told to kick rocks no dylan's here

she's not here i know you she's here i have a well here. I know you. She's here. I have a. Well, then why do I have a sixth box on my Zoom screen? That isn't just your Zoom. Yeah. She's in a box on my Zoom screen right next to Sean on the second row. It's Dylan. She is. She looks very still right now, though.

Dylan is going electric right now now if you know what i mean are you sure you just don't have a framed photo of her next to your computer honey um uh no i'm pretty sure because it's because i do have a framed photo but that's separate okay honey no i'm looking at a box i'm looking at a might you have two frame photos sweetie well is she also the wallpaper behind your behind your uh zoom window oh well okay yes but also i am seeing this i all of what you're saying is right but what i'm also saying is right which is that she is on the zoom she's on the zoom and she's about to sing a beautiful song don't but only you can hear it that's fine no we're all listening to it sing a song

no we know no you're you're all listening to it what you're doing right now is gaslighting so berthy collects these what happened these good old-fashioned tricking gaslighting why can't i trick someone you know he's sort of a impish prankster figure used to be something celebrated in many cultures and now all of a sudden the slightest trick at your gas lighting i don't know we have to find some way to divide the two and we have to come up with a more i can more environmentally friendly way to to trick someone that doesn't involve shouldn't we be solar lighting them or yeah yeah yeah with a windmill yeah led leding someone i will say that sean's hat right now i feel like that's somewhat of a bridge to a trickster character right like you're you're making some kind of

evolution into taking on some sort of new character and i'm excited to see what comes next for me it seems like what you could, you could do something, for example, a trick maybe. And then you, you like take your hat off and bow, you know, like it seems like the kind of hat that you could take off and bow and then pop back on your head. Kevin, make a new tier, get a screen, grab, you know, an image of just my square and then see if you can create a new tier for the

patreon where for a hundred dollars you can see me in the hat great and for and for five thousand dollars i'll do a private zoom with you wearing the hat and that doesn't go into the larger patreon pool hayes doesn't get any of it that'll be huge be great so huge money goes right to earnest hayes are you growing your hair out like this because you wish you had a hat so crazy where do i even begin with that question it's so fucked it's so upsetting first of all this is my body you're talking about you're talking about you're coming on the show and talking about my body we're yeah christine doesn't know what the show is so she now thinks the show is we just

talk about haze's body yeah you've never heard the podcast that's no i'm not that's why i agreed to do it though because that's what i thought it was that's what she told you yeah oh i guess i started it off talking about my own body and my derm looks like greg is hungry for dinner yeah i mean that's one of the wife stuff so uh the husband thing is uh he brought the groceries. He comes home into frame with all this food. Very subtle. No, we put the kitchen. Say Greg's last name. It's Gallant. Goofus and Gallant.

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Sure. I love this stuff. We have people. We just had this. It's so fucked up, man. Congratulations, by the way. This shit is sick as fuck i'm freaking out god it's insane you congratulations

i've been watching for a long time i've been watching ever since homer was like since why are you since i mean, since Bart. Yeah. Yeah. You remember when Homer was kind of like, hey, you Bart. Oh, you're in big trouble now. Yeah, we all remember that first time. Yeah. You bad guy.

Yeah. And you're quoting the show. That's one of our signature jokes. I love the stuff. We have a lot of people on here who shit i hate all the time i talk to these people and the fucking stuff they do it's like you're promoting that i wouldn't want anyone to know about it yes we had this guy on last week what was this show the the white white loafus. The shit.

I'm watching this shit. I don't know what the fuck is going on. They're on the beach or something. It doesn't make any sense. And as I said to him at the time, I can't relate to people that are just like on vacation. I work. All my friends work.

The Simpsons go to work and school. That's what they do yeah they are committed to meeting their obligations at work and at school and i admire for them the simpsons stay on that grind right they've got you know what they've got is uh regular work and then homework yeah it's two kinds of work it's true uh the simpsons will be working over zoom yes we have been working over zoom yeah it's happening but the simpsons are doing that is mr burns zooming into work they're still in springfield the but the they don't know about covid in springfield. Okay. We're not going to warn them.

We're not going to. You're not going to tell them about COVID? Okay. Well, we just want to see these characters, how are they going to react to this particular challenge or this roadblock? Right. That's helpful for us as storytellers, really,

to know how are they going to react to this. Maggie with long COVID. Yeah. Right? There's a story. There's a story. to know like how are they going to react to this Maggie with long COVID yeah right there's a story there's a story fucking pacifier keeps shooting out of her mouth because she's got this hacking cough and you know you can get

all that you know yeah absolutely lands in the toilet episode I love it in the toilet that's an episode I'm loving it that's an episode okay anybody got a bee story let's stick these things together

it doesn't need one March gets short COVID, March gets medium COVID these are all different they could all be one episode or they could all be different episodes and Lisa gets monkey pox in that different they could all be one episode or they could all be different episodes yeah and then we do it and lisa gets monkey pox on that so yeah yeah she gets it oh my gosh that's so lisa

that is a change that makes sense among like the changes that we see look i yes and i know yes yes good the show a lot of people still watch the show but of like people listening to this you know they might not be aware of some some of the changes in recent years that my understanding you two are like relatively new to the show my understanding from talking to other people on is that you're responsible for a lot of the the ship you yeah yes the new directions that the show is going i want to get into this i want to hear your side of it i'm not as a fan totally supportive of some of the things that you all have been doing and and i think it would be great to just like discuss it here i'm willing to learn and and i want this is a great forum and there's no judgment other than like the obviously i've made a judgment on the show which is i'm not gonna watch it anymore but maybe i could understand

you know why so much has changed because the show was a pretty big hit yeah yeah it was so what's up we can well we can talk like we can talk about like specific things and like just sort of general vibe let's get into it uh of the show hey why don't you go first i would love to start with the dabbing and just get it out of the way. Yeah. That's probably my number one issue as well. That every character is dabbing. Nobody talks about it.

They're talking about it. They're doing it to different degrees. It feels like Lenny is dabbing way more than anyone else and is a bigger part of the show than he ever was. more than anyone else and is a bigger part of the show than he ever was right well and and it's a cartoon but there used to be some level of sort of grounded humanity there and you could understand people and the ferocity with which lenny dabs would injure him and others yes so for no one to even mention it like how do i invest in that i can't connect to that world right and it's dangerous right because i'm a kid who i grew up going well i'm i'm a lenny like i'm kind of the lenny of my friend group i want to be like lenny and if he had been dabbing like this at that time right you know my

shoulder would be uh you know uh over in the other room next week as well. You'd be wearing a different hat. We can say that. That's for sure. They can't see the hat. There's no video. The hospital hat. Yeah.

It's not our... I'll say this. It's not our responsibility to tell parents how to raise their kids like if like you as a parent should know like what the what the your child's limit is for dabbing so like i don't really see why that that would be like the show's fault for if we put in too much dabbing and a kid is doing it too much it's not our fault if he gets hurt first of all okay but every kid has it i just want to point out though there's no way to know until they like every character has a okay but every kid has it i just want to point out though there's no way to know until they like every character has a certain number every kid has a certain number of dabs that

they're physically capable of doing right which is where this idea came from yeah yeah yeah and the thing is i i mean what what christina's saying is totally. And Lenny's parents know where that line is for Lenny. And we don't want to tell them how to parent Lenny. Well, I'm surprised that Lenny's parents have become so central in the storytelling of the show. This is my next thing. I cannot believe how often we're seeing Lenny's parents. They have scenes all to themselves now.

We're mostly in their house sometimes we're like halfway through a story that i think is pretty good about like you know homer um trying to coach a british soccer team ted lasso style or something and i go oh this could be pretty good and then he goes i wonder what lenny's parents think about this and then we zoom back across the pond and just hang out with lenny's parents while they have dinner and discuss like whether or not they think homer will be a successful coach and then we roll credits yeah yeah just go well what how what happened to the story you started telling me well we're talking about it i mean you're talking about it well they're talking

about speculating on it yeah i yeah i guess i am talking about but i'm talking about it in a negative way oh well sean i'm saying it's why i don't watch but you do yeah i mean you're clearly watching it here's the thing the audience is as much a part of the story as the people in the story are you know and so if lenny's parents are part of the audience why wouldn't we want to know what they think why well i don't i don't like how much you show the audience now i i don't for me what i liked was there was sort of a closed fourth wall yeah especially since it's animated like it's not it's not the kind of show where you need live reactions. The Japanese game show picture-in-picture thing where you have audience members watching the show.

And by the way, let me just point out, they also hate this. Yeah, they do. They hate what's happening. No. They don't want to be there. That started as an accident. I will say that um and actually you

just haven't figured out how to turn that part off so okay so it started as an accident and it has continued to be an accident the whole time like it some people like it you know there's who likes it i i'm curious because they don't like it and i don't like it so who so when you say some people i guess i just gotta ask like can you narrow that down for me to even one person i like it yeah brody likes it i like it i like it and it's not related to the fact that you know the accident of having lenny's parents in the picture-in-picture thing was because I was running around in many circles. I just want to say that's a separate thing. We were talking about having audience members in the picture-in-picture.

The fact that Lenny's parents are sometimes watching themselves is also very distracting. Yeah. Separate issue. is very is also very distracting yeah separate issue well i was running i was running around the big computers that make the simpsons and i i accidentally hit a button okay but well you didn't just well i you didn't just hit a button brody yeah you spilled an entire sobie on it i the chocolate chip cookie was a mistake by the way full sobie on it a chocolate chip cookie was a mistake, by the way. You spilled a full Sobe on it. A chocolate chip cookie flavored Sobe. But then we got an episode out of that, didn't we? We got that classic episode where Lenny's parents come to visit at the nuclear power plant and they spill a Sobe all over, you know, the controls.

Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know that's how the computer worked that it just does it just makes an episode about whatever's happening to it but no we wrote that we wrote that yeah we wrote that oh you wrote that yeah well then i think like since we made it the nuclear power plant and we made it lenny's parents we made it homer's job maybe we should have made the effect of the spilled drink something other than being able to see another picture in picture reaction from the audience during the show. And Lenny's parents just talking about like, can you believe that these people are watching us right now? Yeah.

Like, why was it something to do with the nuclear power plants so the characters could react i don't know i i don't have all the answers but i don't think i'm alone in disliking this direction you know i want to move on no go ahead no go ahead go ahead do you have a comment on this this is why you're here is you know the show has been on for 84 85 years we wanted to you know when when they hired me when they hired both the in our interview separate interviews they said what are 10 ways the show could change and i wasn't prepared for that question i'll tell you a lot to come up with so i kind of did that and i looked around the room, usual suspect style. And I saw Sobe. I saw, you know, picture next to a picture next to a picture. And I had a picture in a picture like that.

You know, it all just like, and I said these things, not thinking that we'd have to do them. But then we did, we did do them. And now they're being done. So that is what I want to do. What did you see that made you decide to have Marge be nude? That came from brody's interview i think yeah um all right we'll talk about that because i don't know like i think of myself as actually kind of a cool liberal guy like i'm not a sure man one of the most like sex

positive people like honestly in the world uh yes the but the disgusting just absolutely horrifying uh sickening sex acts that i've been positive about on this show uh-huh yeah can you name of the sex acts yeah the horrifying sex acts that you've been positive about cunnilingus 69ing coming down on a chick i mean need i go on three more is one of them like drawing on your partner in two by two inch grids with the marker well you know i didn't get to finish that story the part of that was that no one would draw it with you know no one would draw on me on some of the spots that i couldn't reach which i think is related and then it's hard to draw inside of your mouth you asked about marge's nudity um the just complete honest answer is that

when i go to work i am punctual i want us you know, I want us to be there at a specific time. Marge was not ready by the time that, you know, we were starting the interview. And that's I interviewed Marge. Well, she was in the she was in the room. Oh, wait. Sorry. So Marge was in the room for your interview. For my interview and i wanted my

interview to start at exactly the time that you know i wanted it to start exactly 9 30 a.m not a second not a second sooner not a second later and she just had not gotten ready 9 30 a.m slot that shows they were taking you very seriously as a candidate. Yeah. And the thing is, that's legit. Yeah. And he's in Hollywood, you know, you'll go on these interviews,

but you're also interviewing that. Sure. You know? So that's why Marge is naked now. So you made her be naked as punishment. Well, she wasn't ready. She wasn't ready, but she, but she respected me enough to come on time anyway and then in order to hire the two of us they had

to fire the person that draws her clothes on her so we were fine with it he's been around for a while he's fine he'll be fine you know if he's been drawing her clothes this whole time it was time to put that person out to pasture anyway i don't know what their deal was but the clothes were looking really fucked up and raggedy he's actually right now he's like changing the um he's making uh he's altering the dress so that it fits um meg from family guy oh good for him wow yeah so he's actually you know her the character uh brent cock, he did used to be named Kent Brockman. I know that all senior leadership on the show are saying that his name was always Brent Cockman. I'm 100% certain.

And I went back and checked the old episodes. They all say Brent Cockman now. Right. But I've talked to other people who also remember that that character did used to be named Kent Brockman and his name is recorded in a different voice when he says it in the old episode yes

it sounds like you guys speaking simultaneously yeah I haven't noticed either okay but that's what it sounds that's what it sounds like. I mean, if anything, I feel like he has sounded more himself now than he ever has before. Authentic.

So you're saying that it has changed in some way because that is more than we've been able to get at it. The writing, he's more authentic to who he is. He sounds different. Maybe just because you guys know that we work on the show, so you hear our voices when you watch the show, which I think is kind of a compliment. That's kind of awesome. I mean, your creative, your writer's voice is definitely in there.

But with the Brent Cockman thing, it's also your actual speaking voice. It's very different from how you sound. Yeah, that's what you're hearing. That's great. No, I know that you're trying to gaslight me. And people have said that this is actually the Mancala effect. What happened to good old-fashioned tricking? Yeah.

But no, we're not gaslighting. We're really honored that you would say something like that. Yeah, so now if I say, like, I'm Brent Cockman, you think that sounds like what the voice is on the show? It sounds like that, but you, but Brody, you're saying it at the exact same time, but not quite lined up. Like you're trying to say it at the same time, but. Yeah, there's a little lag.

I mean, this is what it's, and this is why, you know, Christine and I don't really agree that many interviews is that when you see us as people, it's like the magic goes away, you know, where you would, you would originally just associate these voices with Brent. But now you're seeing that they're coming from. The way you pause after Brent there. It's like you know that it wasn't Brent. It's just not. I don't know. I didn't hear a pause.

By the way, he's not a character that we necessarily see every episode and so it wasn't as jarring to me as Ned Flanders being changed to need flaccid. I guess I don't care. I guess need flaccid. Yeah. I guess I don't care.

Like, I guess I don't care. That, that is okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, can you talk about why then? Cause you're acknowledging that that got changed.

So yeah, that's it. And I will say, um, you know, as animation and TV has evolved, there's just more room for representation. Yeah.

And we just like on the show we realized we didn't have a character representing that kind of particular community so it was just kind of a decision that we made in the room and everybody feels really good about it so what community

because it's just his name is different like what exactly what community is he representing because it's just his name is different. Like what... Exactly. What community is he representing now? Because the character is otherwise the same except for the name. Well, he's not exactly the same Hayes because he used to say hi to Lee Ho neighbor.

And now he comes over and he goes, hey, just so you know, I'm just going to say hi from now on. But he does it in every episode. So he's never transitioned to saying hi you don't think people deserve representation like yeah i don't understand i think whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa i never said that people deserve representation i never said that and here's here's my question you say you know he says this every episode this

really brilliant line that um you know christine actually pulled from her own life and from her own experiences um my question for you is does bart not say cowabunga many times no well no he doesn't anymore and that that's that's another i guess like his new like the whole set of new catchphrases his sippy sippy soda me yoda me want soda yeah that's reverend love the whole like soda obsession it's not really how yoda talks and the fact that this is the big payoff for like integrating the entire like disney library now is bart being able to say me yoda me wants soda it's great i hate to do this on the show like this is the this i do think this is an improvement um just so that you guys don't feel like you're getting piled on. It does feel that way a little bit.

Hayes and I I don't want that. Hayes and I we agree on most of this stuff. Miota Miota Soda that's very good writing. Yeah. It works. The times that you've had him

say it I've usually been surprised because there's no soda visible on screen. He's not eating. He's not around. You know, he just kind of will say it. Awesome. Thank you. So often like in the middle of, you know, a conversation with someone else

where it's like, it's not done. He just interrupts them to go, me Yoda, me want soda and go, I want to get soda. But you do watch. I mean and go i but you do watch i mean it sounds like you do watch you watch it's that part of that yeah i have my niece uh cut out those parts so that i could just watch that okay um so that i i do enjoy um i don't love the other soda things he says. Okay.

We want to hear your feedback. I mean, we want to hear how you really did nine 11 and, and for a guy who loves soda so much. Yeah. Then is he saying that's positive or is him drinking it or being Yoda somehow revenge for him. Like that's right.

That's not clear. It's fair. It's fair. That's fair. That, I, that was not the only thing that's happened on nine 11. And maybe that's maybe nine 11 means something different to him than to you.

It's not everybody. He's does to you. It's not. Everybody has their association with 9-11. He's saying something else that happened on 9-11, unspecified year, I guess. Right. That Soda did? Yeah. What is it? That was in the episode.

Yeah, that was in the episode. I guess you'll have to watch it again. Sean's niece cut that part out. So, Brody, if you could say what it is that would be great for us to know, just for transparency, what it is. You got to watch it. Man, you got to watch it. And then you can tell me what it is.

If you do nothing else in this episode, You can tell me what it is. If you do nothing else in this episode, you are going to need to say what it is that Soda did on either the same 9-11 as the one that people are usually talking about or a different one. You don't have to be like Rodney. You don't have to.

Okay. Then we will sit and we will wait. It's your episode. It's your episode. It's your episode, ladies. I have a lot of episodes. I will not be judged on this one alone. People know I usually sit and wait in silence. Like 480.

Okay, so it's a round number. So I am a little disqualified let this we've done 400 any of them and i immediately bought i'm i'm still deciding if i want to share that with you come back to me okay okay now that i know it's really time plus christine stuff going on you can ask yeah and plus you can talk to each other yes true the homer thing and again you have to like a adapt to the times in different ways i i totally understand that homer is is just way too shy now yeah he's being he's being so shy so much of his character was how bold he could be and he didn't really feel self-conscious yeah but it's like every time anyone asks him a question he just starts kind of looking at the ground and shuffling his feet yeah and pinching at his jeans area yeah and it's like i i don't know how long i can watch that for

and he whispers i'm shy and then the audience in the picture in picture will go i can't hear you yeah and he'll say it again yeah i i just don't i i don. For me, that's a downgrade from what Homer used to be, which is like, he's kind of crazy and funny. He's kind of silly and dumb. He was brash, I think. And I don't know why he got shy. I can tell, I mean, we, you know, we had to do the integration with Disney.

And what people don't know is we also did an integration with the Shy Guys guys so they're the shy guys from super mario 2 or are these like a version of the try guys that you're from as much the try guys who are off camera who don't want to be on camera because there are a dozen try guys but only four of them were brave enough to step in front of the lens so those other guys that are off camera um of course it's of course it was one of them yeah yeah became a nefarious criminal when meanwhile and this is why i always say i love introverts like it takes a little longer to get to know us. Right.

But there's so much more in there. You know, it's not the constant. Look at me. Look at me. Validation. Look at me. I'm here with one of the snack girls,

whatever. Right. Right. Right. Well, I mean, the thing with the shy, the shyness is,

you know, Homer is really in that one episode, you probably saw it. He says, you know, shyness did January 6th, right? And so he loves that. So that was one of the big things that we wanted to get out there is that he has that positive association with, you know, what happened. With January 6th. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. you know what happened with january 6 yeah yeah yeah and is that the same january 6 is the one that people are like normally talking about or is that a different one it might be the one that you talk about i i don't know the one you talk about but yeah okay something happened all right i guess that's fair yeah i mean i didn't i you know not to make it all negative i do like the post integration catchphrase which is he goes call me luke shy walker yeah and then yeah that's all shuffles around it felt it felt like an angle yeah and it sounded like her voice as well saying that did it i don't know thank you again i mean this is like i i didn't think i'd be such a love fest. I appreciate it. Thank you. This is great feedback.

Kevin, was The Simpsons on your Tinder profile that one time? Didn't make the cut. Well, at one point, Kevin's profile was just a list of shows. No other information. I think it was one show. Maybe two.

How did that work out for you? Yeah. I got mocked publicly show, maybe two. How did that work out for you? Yeah. I got mocked publicly and deleted my bio. Okay. And then met the love of my life. Although one thing we did, we did change the name of the show from The Simpsons to Us Simpsons. Yeah. We didn't want to get confused.

Yeah. Yes. That's nice to respect oj simpsons doesn't say anything about like whether what he did was good or bad or anything but like he said his name is oj simpsons and that's it uh we don't want to create opinions for you so that was so that's why we wouldn't be called like oh a better simpsons or something like that you know we don't want to make up your mind for you we want to give um everyone the freedom to come to their own conclusion when it comes to oj well yeah go ahead sean no i just as we're here i know that i've

it's skewed a little negative i mean we tend to you know we we tend to focus on that stuff you go to a mechanic they're not going to tell you all the parts that work on the car right you'd be there all day all this stuff wipers are going it's like hey why are you being so negative just talking about how my brakes don't work it's like well that's actually the important part right but no sometimes it does feel good so i I will say, you know, the fact that the show is up and running is a credit to you. And I would like to be on the show, please. You have the hat for it. When you say you want to be on the show, you want to be watching from home?

I'd like to be on the show. Do you want to be? Whatever feels like the right fit to you. I just would like to be involved. Okay. Please. Can you draw clothes on a lady? Just the opposite.

Okay. Okay, I don't know. Man, yeah, I don't know what the opposite... So you can erase clothes from a lady is that the opposite of that or yeah okay okay we're open i mean we're open you know yeah that's the thing about the simpsons people don't know is you we doors are open you can just come in and hand us you could just show up you just show yeah i was curious yeah i was curious if i could just walk in there yeah i you know i drive by it every day and i sort of park outside

and i look at the door oh come on and i just been trying to screw up the courage to get in maybe that's why i'm so sensitive about homer becoming shy because i was just gonna say then you'd be great a great writer for him you know I also wonder Sean if they've been watching you Sean that they've been seeing you kind of shuffle up to the door

kind of pull on your jeans area we're always saying come on in little guy come on in I was like hey Sean Sean come on. And then he turns around and leaves. And it's a little more heartbreaking than the last. Yeah.

Even though the door is not locked. And oftentimes someone will even open it for Sean. Yeah. And he just, he kind of stays out there. He's still shuffling though. I hold up like a little branch in front of me or something. Every time he comes, his hat gets a little bigger. His pants get a little longer.

I don't know what that's about. But it doesn't change my opinion on how well I think you would do working on the show. Yeah. We don't look at things like gradual hat size or pant length when we're hiring.

We're not allowed. I think it's a union thing. It's a legal thing, yeah. Kevin, I wanted to give space for you as not enough of a fan of the show to put it in your bio. I have a question. I'm getting a little lost in the reality

when Homer says he has to drive his cartoon car to work. Right. Right. Right. Right. Uh-huh. And what's the question? Do they now know that it's a cartoon or only parts of some of them do?

Why is it just the car? He's going to look at the car and not see that it's a cartoon? Like, that's ridiculous. He's shy. He's shy, at the car and not see that it's a cartoon. Like, that's ridiculous. He's shy, but he isn't stupid. It's clearly a cartoon. He's looking at the car. It's a cartoon. Like, he's not stupid.

Yeah. Shy, but not stupid. That's like the new Homer Tagler. That's his, yeah. So. But everything else is also like pretty clearly clearly a cartoon except for the stuff that you've now their hair i guess is now real which is yeah real hair which has been also donated by fans which is awesome yeah it's awesome yeah and we put some of yeah yeah it makes it makes us feel

really loved and also like some of you know some of the blood that we saw in the envelopes with that hair we put into some of the characters as well so well can we as we talk about this area real hair blood there's some real hair and as we talk about this area and what what kevin brought up and we've discussed some of their catchphrases so when homer says i have to drive my cartoon car to work, which I agree is a bump. I'm not sure I love that Lisa goes, well, his car may be a cartoon,

but my borderline personality disorder is real. I hated that. That was bro-thic. I hated that. Yeah, I mean, here's the thing is we don't, we obviously don't like that because it is our lives reflected back at us, right? Like, if you have a diagnosis of borderline personality disorder, you say, you would say something like that. You would say, you know, that might be a cartoon.

And you would say it looking directly at camera. Yeah. Wouldn't you you like she does and why does your cash app tag show up when that gets said as well like why does that because i i'll sometimes watch with the subtitles on oh that's that's disney yeah we don't have any control that's disney yeah that's dis. That's Disney's Cash App. Okay. It's your name. Right.

And it's your picture as well. That goes to Disney. Disney's Cash App is your name and picture. And that's a total coincidence. That's a coincidence. It's a total coincidence. Isn't that crazy? The fact that Bart is bi, I don't even want to address.

I don't want to get into it at all. I mostly have heard it referred to the state being referred to as bisexuality. The fact that he talks about his bi-ness, his extreme bi-ness. And other characters call him your bi-ness. You do want to talk about it you don't because it sounds like you do yeah it sounds like you don't want the language around it that not the language around it exactly the decision for him to be visibly bisexual whether he is or not is like great like you know good i support whatever right and he says. Right. And he says, by Caramba.

Now he says, by Caramba. Yeah. He says, by Caramba now, which I was kind of happy to see that come back. Yeah. I thought that was worth it. I thought it was worth it.

I wasn't crazy about all the other changes, but by Caramba kind of tied it all together for me. So are you saying that's growthy, that you're buying this stuff? Am I saying what? Nevermind. We gotta go. We gotta go. We gotta go.

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