Hollywood Handbook - Casey Rocket, Our Close Friend

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. The new McCrispy strip is here. Dip approved by ketchup, tangy barbecue, honey mustard, honey mustard, Sprite, McFlurry, Big Mac sauce, double dipped in Buffalo and ranch, more ranch, and creamy chili McCrispy strip dip. Now at McDonald's. So I mean this is my routine that you've like, I'm always looking for what's my routine at the top of the day that sets me up or... I've been struggling because I've had routines that work for the afternoon.
Starting point is 00:00:43 I've had routines at work at night. But the fact is- I know that, brother. I know you've had routines at work at night. Come on now. Yeah, so my sexual escapades are legendary on this show. But the issue for me is by the time I get to the afternoon and get into this routine that works, my day's already fucked. It's too late, yeah. The issue for me is by the time I get to the afternoon
Starting point is 00:01:05 and get into this routine that works, my day's already fucked. It's too late, yeah. I'm already fucked. It's off kilter. My shit sucks. This is what, so. Look at this, look at what I'm doing right now.
Starting point is 00:01:15 This fucking sucks. Honestly, my sexual escapades aren't even that legendary. And partially it's because my day is always fucked by the nighttime, my afternoon routine doesn't work. It sucks. But you've been trying to get a morning one going. If you have any luck, please pass it my way. So here the watermelon goes on the cutting board.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Boom. Katana goes through it like it wasn't even there. Fruit ninja, real life Fruit Ninja. Half goes back in the fridge, half gets scooped out, that's breakfast. Now the other half of watermelon rind is still intact. That's my bowl and my cup for the entire day. Bang. And so I'm just for the entire day. Bang.
Starting point is 00:02:06 And so like I'm just moving through the day. Bowl, I have. Carrying around a half watermelon rind all day, eating and drinking out of it. And you say, how do you carry around, like how do you use your hands? Backpack straps over the rind. So it's basically like my turtle shell as well
Starting point is 00:02:23 for the whole day. Right, but it's in front, right? It's the hangover baby Bjorn style, no? That's right. It's baby Bjorn watermelon rind cup slash bowl. Cup slash bowl. He's eating chili out of it. He's drinking straight vodka out of it.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Nothing can stop this man. And you look, can I say, Hayes? Absolutely fine. It looks okay. It looks okay. Yeah. I guess I wasn't anticipating meeting it from a body image perspective so quickly,
Starting point is 00:02:58 having it be something that, giving myself a new physical profile, where now I used to be like, okay, this is my bull and cut for the day. Now it's like, this is my body. Yeah, this is my entire shape. We have a guest. Look at this guy.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And he's waiting so politely. We have a gentleman in the room with us and he is being so polite. He came in. And I think of him as like a cut up, this sort of. Oh, I think of him as a scamp. Under the bridge.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I think of him as an incorrigible scamp and yet, patiently waiting, polite as the day is long. You guys are basically brothers to me at this point. Casey. Doesn't it feel that way? It does, almost immediately. And I will say, change your profile't feel that way. It does almost immediately. And I will say change your profile, change your life. Your physical profile.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Your physical profile. What pieces are you adding to it? Yeah, what have you been adjusting? Change your silhouette, you know? Skin shorter, skin snaps. Skin short, your skin is looking snatched today. Your entire skin is so snatched today. It is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:05 You're focusing on your face, but it's everything. Yeah, no, I look at your forearms and I think his wrist bones are coming, come shooting out and hitting the face because the skin is really snatched. I wanna do a drum fill on it, it's so tight. Skin shorter, bones longer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Pressing at the fingertips like they're begging to get out. Bony nodules are it. And I'm not talking about being skeleton skinny. I'm talking about what you're saying, which is I think it's nice to carry around a couple extra pounds, you know, God knows I have been, but also to have those long bones poking out of that short skin.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Run the jewels, I say to my doctor. A will they won't they? Crossword D-U-L-E-S. A true will they won't they? And the question, will they pop out of your skin? Will they or won't they pop out of your skin? Will they or won't they pop out of your skin? The second they pop out of that skin, man,
Starting point is 00:05:00 it's all bets are off. They're shooting around the room, you know? There's no putting the toothpaste back in the tube. Once one comes out, and it's all bets are off. They're shooting around the room, you know? There's no putting the toothpaste back in the tube. Once one comes out, the other bones start looking around going. Or putting the tooth back in the mouth. Those are bones too,
Starting point is 00:05:13 as we talk about on the show sometimes, and they come shooting out, man. I've got my gums all the way up in my nasal cavity at this point, because I am getting everything, shorter, tighter, longer, stronger, better. And that's psyched you in that first moment that pops out. Shorter, tighter, longer, stronger.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I'm teething. So cool. It's so nice to be teething again. Let's get lost tonight. Run it back. I'm still teething, give me floss tonight. Right? Run it back one more time. Try? Run it back one more time.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Try to tease one more time. Mm-hmm. Well, it's funny because Hayes was talking about this sort of like innovation, life hacking, next frontier, you know, watermelon rind concept. But also with you, Casey, we don't have to go do everything right away, but we could. What we were thinking about doing maybe is like,
Starting point is 00:06:13 just a little thing, just a little tiny thing, which is changing the way the entire world interacts with podcasts forever and being the first people to establish a whole new, you know, kind of format for this thing. Talk about. Information and comedy. Yes. And like we're talking about Sacajawea.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I mean, I said it kind of got stepped on a little bit, but Sacajawea, exploring new frontiers. We're talking about doing that with Riff Science. Wow. And this is your domain. Like this. Sounds like I'm going to need a cup of coffee. If that's what we're going to get it because it is a little early for me. He's like sleepy, man. It's a little early. You smoke cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Do you smell it on me? Yeah. What? What gave it away? What gave it away? Because I know it wasn't my smile. I did shower, but I won't lie to you, I had half a one on the way over here. No, I didn't. And it was in the Uber and he was pissed. I never want you to lie.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Sure. Yeah, I don't. I just want to be me. I don't give a shit. I just want to be me. So, okay. It's want to be me. I just wanna be me. So, okay. It's I wanna be me. Okay, so that's good.
Starting point is 00:07:28 That's a perfect, I think, way to utilize this new technology. This is so good. So here's the way it's gonna work. You gotta do video now, all these, like, you're in the clips. Did we introduce, dude, do we need to? They can read, I mean, this is something we could click on too. Okay, let's get the, what's your bio?
Starting point is 00:07:48 Tell me your thing. Did you write your own bio for your site? Do you have your bio up? Is it in third person or first? It's in, I forget which, it's in third I think. It says Casey Rocket, born from the ashes of the speed freaks that came before him. Okay, okay, so I mean, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:08:07 So that is third person. Sure. Whatever you guys think is best. But it is you writing it. But you wrote it. About yourself. I did write it in the way that Ricky Henderson used to talk about himself.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I too talk about myself. Perfect. The way Ricky Henderson did. Okay. So as- So much. So much material to work with. This is so good. The way we're envisioning this is in the video
Starting point is 00:08:30 and in the clips as well. Don't worry. Don't worry, there will be clips, Casey. Clips are a coming. You will get- Thank God. You're getting clipped. You're not alive if you're not.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Am I gonna be in the clip? Yeah, you'll be in the clip. You will have, as you're riffing, when you explore a specific, I know you love to deal in the specific, you're talking about Ricky Henderson, a bubble will come out of your mouth, it's like not for real, but like a rendering.
Starting point is 00:09:00 On the video there will be an animatronic bubble. Animatronic rendering of a bubble. Yes, it's going to be, you're thinking like, oh, should it be animated? It's like, no, it's gonna appear to be sort of a, sort of retro tech, oh. Mechanical bubble. Tangible.
Starting point is 00:09:16 The tangible bubble. Yeah, it's gonna see, yeah. We'll be doing like real visual effects combined with. No, we're gonna have, we're building practical, We'll be doing like real visual effects combined with- No, we're gonna have, we're building practical sort of robot bubble puppets at a studio in the Valley. And we're getting really close. Some of this stuff is looking good. Did you see Jacob sent over some new ones?
Starting point is 00:09:38 I couldn't open it. Yeah, it's- The files are- I couldn't either, but he was so excited. He used so many exclamation points in the email about it. They're so onerous. The files are unwieldy, brother. He should've added shit as an editor, probably.
Starting point is 00:09:55 You guys got Tom Savini working on this thing or what? Savini, would be incredible to have Savini. He's a Savinius, honest to God. I swear to God. He's a Savinius, honest to God. I swear to God. He's a Savina. No, you said it right. I'll probably go back to bed. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:10:10 That was really nice. I'll probably go back to bed for a little bit. That's really nice when that happens, when they come for it and then they just say, all you dogs. All credit, all credit, all credit, where's credits due? Hey, man, I was gonna kind of riff off of it, but it's like it's done.
Starting point is 00:10:27 So I should do that sometimes. The bubble floats out. Ah, then we'd have no show. Oh yeah. The bubble floats out of your mouth, kind of little burps out, not like a gross burp, but like a tiny little. No, like a sweet one. Kevin's been laying down a few of these,
Starting point is 00:10:44 so like, you could just show like an example like a sweet little like uh... Kevin's been laying down a few of these so like, you just show like an exact like a sweet little burp. Okay. I mean. So this is mid-riff or at the beginning of the rift. We'll pitch it up, you know what I mean? I actually think I've been, I don't know, I'm talking to Jacob about whether we can have a...
Starting point is 00:10:58 This is mid-riff, that's probably what Paris Hilton said when she was debuting her new line of crop tops. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. And so that, I mean, like that's whatever, like make it yours, do something like that. But like, you know. With the Hilton thing or the bubble thing? Do your version. Well, what I just did,
Starting point is 00:11:15 I think that is great material for a riff. Yeah, there's been a million like great ones. But like, you know, you don't have to use all of that, but I do think it is the foundation of something for sure. But anyway. But I do want also, we should get into it, but I do want to have a 3D rendered mouse pop up on the arm of the chair after the bell,
Starting point is 00:11:39 trying to go, excuse you. After the burp. Kind of like the departed. Like the rat from. Yeah, like the rat from the departed. Like the rat from the departed. Oh my God, do we have to have this? So that would be a bubble question mark. Yes, that would be a bubble question mark. So we're kind of stacking these up,
Starting point is 00:11:53 so we'll have to go back and get it. So do you have the list? Burp and rat from departed. No, burp was actually not. I know I did mention burp, but that is not something. And you didn't do a good job. So it's Ricky Henderson, it's the rat from departed. You didn't do a good job. It was, so it's Ricky Henderson, it's the Rat from Departed.
Starting point is 00:12:07 You didn't like the burp? It's a song. We're shelving. His burp? You didn't like it? I'd like to pitch it up. Okay. I'd like to pitch it up, I'd like to slow it down. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:17 We're shelving that. Are you, you're happy with it? I, compared to what we've been getting, maybe I'm just like, I've been disappointed for so long that like that was really- You cannot do that. You cannot diminish your own worth because you've been mistreated by Kevin in the past.
Starting point is 00:12:34 You can't say like, oh, this is as good as I'm ever gonna get. You deserve. Well, then- Pitched up, slowed down, burp sound from Kevin. And I think we can do a lot of it in post. So Kevin did fly in the coffee. I wonder if Casey doesn't know what coffee is
Starting point is 00:12:51 and has been thinking, when he said coffee, he's been thinking it's something else and people have been telling him coffee or something else, because he didn't react to it at all. This is not what I was expecting. I said I thought it was gonna be a little harder than that. Not exactly. It's not hard at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:05 It's, it's really not. It's like, the opposite. It's crazy how hard it is. Yeah. It's kind of the opposite. Really soft. Yeah. And get this coffee, some hems.
Starting point is 00:13:16 So Casey. It gives me panic attacks. I can't drink it, but I think it was wishful. I think it was both of them. I think hems gives me panic attacks because I get of them. I think, Hems gives me panic attacks because I get so hard. I go, when is this gonna stop? That's right.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I go, dear God, when is this, is this just beginning or the end? There should be a guy, like, there should be some kind of guy there. I guess this is what a doctor used to do before you just got pills. So he would come and watch you take it. Watch you take it and be like, this is gonna be over,
Starting point is 00:13:42 like, you know, basically put a clock on it. Well, he was hanging out, if he was kind of like, every once in a while, like, this is gonna be over, basically put a clock on it. Because then I'll be like. Well, if he was hanging out, if he was kind of like, every once in a while, wrapping a little band around it or something, taking some kind of reading, that would actually be a lot more comfortable. Not like a turkey thermometer,
Starting point is 00:13:58 I wouldn't want it to actually work that way at all, but I would wanna know how hot it is in there. Definitely not through the head. Him checking his watch and reading some pressure valve. Yeah. That would be. It'll be fine. Okay, oh.
Starting point is 00:14:11 And I'm going, what's that sound? What's that sound? Yeah. What's the, oh, doctor. And he's going, oh, further along than I thought. I'm like, what? Is that a problem? Is that bad?
Starting point is 00:14:21 Tell me what to do. Tell me what to do. Tell me what to do. Tell me what to do and I'll do it. So the bubble comes out. You'll be soft by nightfall. Let's get, let's get. It's 8 a.m.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah, it's early. Let's get one more that's pitched up and slowed down a little bit. Eh. Well, not that slow, not that slow. Sure. Slowed down, not elongated. You like the pitch?
Starting point is 00:14:42 Same length. That was like the Road Warriors song. What a rush. So cool. So that's another, get that on the list please. Get that on the Road Warriors song, what a rush. So, Bubble comes out. I'm May, was that the song he sang before? He said, I am May.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I wanna be May. I wanna be May. Yes, he said, that's right. I wanna be May. Perfect retention, perfect riff retention. he's saying before. I may, I may. I wanna be me. I wanna be me. Yes, he said that's right. I wanna be me. So he has perfect retention, perfect riff retention. Okay, so this is why you're like the,
Starting point is 00:15:12 for this test bot program, yeah. Bubble comes out, there's a question mark in it, little mouse, 3D render mouse comes up, excuse you. And then the bubble of course is clickable because it has a question mark inside. Yeah. For people to be able to engage with the show on a deeper level, if they're curious, if they want to learn more about a riff.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Care to know more about this riff? Or, and it's judgment free if that one sort of got through the five hole on them. Yeah, cause it's like, you don't wanna say, and that's why just a question mark is so pure where it's just like, you know, any form of question. But I mean, one of the questions is, did the reference go over your head?
Starting point is 00:15:58 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know, without any implication that like our listeners are stupid, dumb as bricks, fucked up, horny, lame. Don't know how to read. Pansies, losers, yeah. Bad family, right? Or even if they think that the question mark
Starting point is 00:16:21 was like a soft weenie. Sure. With like a one little ball. Think it's a shaft? They're still gonna click it. Yeah, they're still gonna click it. Think it's a shaft? That's another question. Cause it's not.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Is this shaft? Crooked shaft? This shaft? Lookin' like Bo Peep's. Even if they think it's a shepherd's crook. Yeah, and they gravitate to it. They see the shepherd's crook and they wanna follow the shepherd because it's time to move to a different part
Starting point is 00:16:54 of the pasture. That's what a lot of our listeners Their followers. Will be drawn to. Yeah. Their followers. Shepherd's crook was the wolf. So they're clicking on that and the bubble pops,
Starting point is 00:17:06 little stink fume comes out, just to like make clear it's stinky in there, like whatever. Yeah. Yeah, just like nothing, like not like big green smoke everywhere, just like tiny little stinky fume. The sound effect is just like a very light sizzle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And so, sss they'll have you introducing, like they'll go to a new clip, don't worry. Perfect. Plenty of clips, clips inside clips. Yes, keep it going. Hey, it seems you're curious about the riff I did. This would be you. Hey, it seems you're curious about the riff I did.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Ricky Henderson, right? It seems you're curious about the riff I did. This would be you. Hey, it seems you're curious about the riff I did. Ricky Henderson, right? Baseball player for the Oakland Athletics team, and then you all-time leader in stolen bases. And then you say, but what I was referencing was a specific and famous, don't feel bad, way of speaking that he had around the clubhouse. And then it's sort of like you go into his third person thing and I mean, make it yours, make it funny.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Like by all means, make it funny, make it yours, make it informative and just, and make it obviously quick, but really thorough, you know, a lot of info. And I think what we're gonna be able to do is, pop-up videos didn't go far enough. Sure. They give you like a fact,
Starting point is 00:18:30 but I couldn't choose which facts I wanted to see. You know, cause you might hear the Ricky Anderson, you know, I totally get that. And then we might get to, and Kevin, and you're right on top of it with the. Eh. No. No. Not that.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Not now, at least. I wanna be May. Nice. There's that one. I'm interested in the Road Warrior song. That one's funny to me. The Road Warrior song, yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I'm definitely interested in that one. What a rush. Yes, thank you. So you got it. The Road Warrior song, what a rush. Yes, thank you. So you got it. The Road Warrior song, what a rush. Now obviously I know that that's totally coherent for me. Every aspect of it. It's landing.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yes. But for someone who's clicking the bubble, that, excuse you, stinky sizzle. Yeah. Our audience unfortunately are gonna hear the Road Warrior and they're gonna think it's a reference I'm gonna fuck you. Stinky sizzle. Yeah. And our audience, unfortunately, are gonna hear The Road Warrior and they're gonna think it's a reference to like a fucking,
Starting point is 00:19:32 Mitch from Doughboy's TV show or something. You know what I mean? Like it's just gonna be like some fucking thing. They're gonna think, yeah, that's. And be like, oh, The Road Warrior's, let me go watch this video game TV show. They're gonna think it's a spinoff Warriors, let me go watch this video game TV show instead of listening to podcasts. They're gonna think it's a spinoff
Starting point is 00:19:46 to the Twisted Metal show that Mitch is on called The Road Warrior, R-O-D-E, because frankly, Mitch has been road so hard at that show, almost every episode, someone riding Mitch, basically into the grave. No, sure. Honestly, he's one of those road warriors out in the wasteland. T tugging at his little coat tail. Yeah
Starting point is 00:20:10 I mean come on Whatever whatever forget it Forget that one don't don't even write that well that that would be one where we just wouldn't even have the bubble you know No, that's like and it's a great way to tell the audience, hey, you're good. The bubble comes out, it's just empty. There's no question mark in there. Yeah. Care to forget that one?
Starting point is 00:20:31 Yeah, question mark. Let's talk about something else. Or God forbid, Road Warrior, they start thinking it's Furioso. It's not, yeah, no, it's not that at all. Whoa. Hollywood handbook. Guys, the kids at school, they can be a little mean
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Starting point is 00:23:40 Whoa. Hollywood handbook. So let's talk about what it is. This is the clip inside the clip. Click the bubble pop. Yeah, Road Warrior song. Excuse you. I clicked it, I wanna know.
Starting point is 00:23:54 And now we've got Casey. Yeah, what a rush. Perfect. So I explain the song. To make it yours, make it funny. But it's hey. But like it's hey. Hey, hey. Wondering what that song is. Hey, it seems like you, yeah, yeah, yeah. Seems like you're interested enough to know about that song. Make it yours, make it funny. But hey, hey, hey. But like, wondering what that song is. Hey, seems like you, yeah, yeah, yeah. Seems like you're interested enough to know about that song. Well, it's a little before my time, but you look about the right age for it. Nice. So I want to have them be seen. And I want to. They're 41. They're 41. Okay, so I go, okay, so you probably have a little bit of memories about this. So that was a crazy, crazy song. And then these two guys,
Starting point is 00:24:25 spiky guys, would come on out and they're not hiding. They have friends back there and they're not scared. If anyone, everyone's scared of them. If anyone, everyone's scared of them. And everybody is running. So, just to recap. Yeah. I love a lot of, I love the two guys, two little spiky guys. The spiky guys felt so good to me. I wish, lot of, I love the two guys, two little spiky guys. That's right. The spiky guys felt so good to me. I wish, I wish we could make the whole thing out of the spiky guys. Yes, thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Because it was, out of that feeling, I don't want to talk about them more because we didn't really give any clarity on what the song was. You know, the song itself, all I found out was that a 41 year old might have some awareness of it. So I'm kind of putting the ball in their court where I go, you know it. Yeah. You know it. I don't need to. So for me, let's say I'm somebody who didn't know what the song was and I'm just, you know, listening to the episode and I
Starting point is 00:25:17 click on it. What I probably want to hear is. It was like less relevant to me in terms of knowing what the song was about. People being scared of them, that's interesting. The friends lost me, if anyone is scared, they're scared of them. If anyone, they're scared of them. That, that wasn't about the song for me either, actually. I think that. The what a rush, like is that part,
Starting point is 00:25:42 is that a line in the song? That felt like we left it on the table. Is that Casey talking while he's listening to the song? Right. Like where is that fitting in? Oh, that's me. Why'd you say that? To the puzzle of the riff.
Starting point is 00:25:55 And I'll just ask you directly, why'd you say that? Stop. Stop. So, you know, cause I heard you say it. Well, it's not, so the what a rush, I like the idea that that would be me listening to the song and going. So, you know, cause I heard you say it. So the, what a rush. I like the idea that that would be me listening to the song and going, what a rush.
Starting point is 00:26:11 I knew it was you. That was great. I knew that was you. What a rush. This thing's great. Cause that's what I say every time I hear that song about being messy. I go, what a rush.
Starting point is 00:26:20 The song is about being messy. It goes, I'm very messy. Okay, wow. And it's by the Road Warriors. No, different song. It's in the film, The Road Warriors. Oh no, the messy song is different. The messy song is different, it's a newer song. This could be a whole separate bubble, the messy song.
Starting point is 00:26:37 It would need to be, let's get one bubble right and then we'll figure out what could be a separate bubble. Sure, okay. But we will have bubbles like absolutely cascading out of you. At the Wisdom. Like even within the clips. Oh yeah. We want all kinds of,
Starting point is 00:26:52 cause pop a video, it didn't go far enough. Unfortunately it didn't. And by the way, half our listeners probably don't even remember what that was. You could try to push on it. But when I say it, what could happen is, little question mark. Excuse you.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Hey guys, seems like you're interested in pop-up videos. So in VH1 circa maybe 1998 to maybe 2002, there was a series of music videos that would air with informational factoid bubbles showing up during the playing of the video. So it would say like, this singer was actually friends with a big bird. And then it would be like,
Starting point is 00:27:29 not big bird from Sesame Street. And then it would be like, therapist Joe says like, this guy's got mommy issues or whatever. That might be blind date. But at any- Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Links to products that we advertised find- Better health or whatever. It won't know. We don't work with them. No, not Yeah. Or whatever. It won't know. We don't work with them. No, not that. Not that. But any other one.
Starting point is 00:27:49 But what does it mean that it goes too far? How can a TV show not go far enough? What does it mean that it doesn't go far enough? A TV show, you couldn't push on the bubbles. You could try, but even if you went all the way into the other room and ran at them and pushed on them with your whole body as hard as you could. Smudge if you're lucky the way into the other room and smug and at them and pushed on them with your whole body As hard as you could smudge if you're lucky, they wouldn't pop even though pop was in the name of the show Didn't make a dent
Starting point is 00:28:13 while it did It did make a dent. I made a dent to run at it And a smudge if you're lucky, but a dent more likely in a crack as well. Mm-hmm in your belly cracked your belly straight open. Busted, like a watermelon. That would be a callback. There should be a separate bubble, different color for callbacks.
Starting point is 00:28:32 There should be a way to manually just do callbacks. So I flip it on like a vacancy sign. Yes, that's right. Yes, and then you can hit that if you want the callback. People mostly don't, you know? They heard that already, right? Like they don't need that again. That's self-service, that's self-service.
Starting point is 00:28:50 That's selfish. Some people are impressed by it. Yes. Sometimes people are impressed by it. Hey, they remember the part. Well, yeah, it's not funny to them. But they like to know you're remembered. It just feels good. Hey, they remembered something, and then they go they go I kind of remember something and it can be sort of affirming
Starting point is 00:29:09 They're proud they feel proud of the host sure or the guest as in as it may be Yeah, so service is what I do after I take him's call back He so he takes and he wants us to talk about this more in our ads that you can take them to jerk off. People. That's been a big talking point that Kevin's tried to get into the formal ad copy for all the hosts. Not just this one. Well, he does like 15 shows.
Starting point is 00:29:39 He does a show with Rachel Billson, and he's like, hey guys, great episode. Just a couple little notes, not a big deal. You can take hims to jerk off. Lots of people do that. Yeah. You, Rachel, you interrupted the guest a lot and also you can take hims to jerk off.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Which I feel like is kind of, you know. It's like, I don't know if you didn't know that. Like, if you did, that's insane. You guys were at one point talking about stuff all around the area. Like, I think you were like, remembering a TV show you liked. And it's like, well, who doesn't jerk off the TV shows?
Starting point is 00:30:15 And then in that case, who doesn't take hymns first, you know? Put on the boob tube. Oh, hold on. I got a pop of hymns right now. Whoopsie. Fucking boobs. Tubes, boobs and tubes.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Tubes. Oops. Well, I got a tube and it's thinking about boobs. Here's a hymns and I am going to blast it. And so like, I think that, you know, that would be something that Kevin would like to hear and maybe you could even talk about it. Did we figure it out? So. I shouldn't talk about it, right? I don't know what I shouldn even talk about it. Did we figure it out?
Starting point is 00:30:45 So I should talk about it, right? I don't know, I shouldn't talk about it. And so the Road Warriors is a band? That's the two guys? The Road Warriors are wrestlers. They're professional wrestlers. And now we get to the root of the issue here. It's their song when they're coming out.
Starting point is 00:31:02 It's their intro music. It's a theme song. Oh, you guys were totally lost. And so that, wait, no, the listeners. The listeners were lost. You guys were right on track, you were right on pace. And so they're the two guys who, they're coming out. Wow, now them having friends back there
Starting point is 00:31:18 is even more confusing to me. Yes. Now we're duty to know more about that. Okay, we're really in the weeds with the friends thing. Well, this is what the technology is all about. So it goes, okay, I see you're confused about the friends part. So now there's a lot of text up there.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Okay, so then it would go, well, you know, being a wrestler, not to break K-Fabe, so then there would be a side bubble, eh, a little mechanism where it goes, K-Fabe, wanna learn more? Tell me a little more about the mechanism. Was that sound a door opening up in the bubble? A small door, almost like a cuckoo clock door,
Starting point is 00:31:52 where something falls, like a chain, and like pit and pendulum, and then it cuts. It's sort of like a Rube Goldberg. There's a pit too? Yeah, it's like a Rube Goldberg. So then that lets go a ping pong ball, where if you open that, it's breakable. It's basically like a Ruth Goldberg. So then that let's go ping-pong ball or if you open that it's breakable yeah, it's basically like an uncrustable and
Starting point is 00:32:09 But instead of peanut butter there's words inside like a fortune cookie. Okay, and those are unfurling Yeah, and that's and that's Captioning the video, right? Yes. I have ticker tape. Oh There's nothing playful about these captions or whatever. It's just like Just all coming out. Yeah, whatever. Tomorrow, here you go. Why not something unfurling? You're like two birds carrying a scarf with the words on it.
Starting point is 00:32:34 You know when they would show some sort of representation of a bad meal, like maybe someone's at a camp or a prison where they're being mistreated and there's just a bowl and it's just all slurp, just a splot of sloth. Just that is what the captions are, right? It's just splat, like here you go, eat up. And it's like, well, what if I had two beautiful birds?
Starting point is 00:33:00 Or like- A stock, a 20 stock guy reading the ticker as it's coming out and he's reading, he's getting more and more horrified by the captions that he's reading, jumps out a window. Black Monday. A boxing glove on a spring punches the words into the screen, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:21 Could there be anything more whimsical than that? So these guys, we do need to learn more about the friends. They are friends. So it goes, what's K-Fabe? So K-Fabe would make you think that all wrestlers are enemies, that's not the case. Okay. Being on the road, sometimes 350 days a year,
Starting point is 00:33:38 do the math, they're hardly home, these guys are thick as thieves, they're more than friends, they're brothers. They're brothers, yeah, that's the kind of family. their brothers Their families a little bigger than mine and yours too, hopefully So you are concerned that the road warriors when they walk out that people will be worried That they're spiky people will be worried that they don't know they don't friends back there And so you're explaining that actually they do they did have have friends back there. You explained that before you explained that it was wrestling.
Starting point is 00:34:06 That's right. What the song was. There's a lot of emphasis on the friends part. I get that now. They were talking. What I'm learning is you're an empath. You know? I feel, I feel, and I feel.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I feel, I feel, and just for good measure, I do a little feeling as well. I feel again. Okay, what just for good measure, I do a little feeling as well. I feel again. Okay, what are the Road Warrior's two names? Yeah, there's Hawk and Animal. There's Road Warrior Hawk and Road Warrior Animal. And together. I wonder if I knew that a hawk was an animal when they did that.
Starting point is 00:34:38 That was probably new back then. This was pretty old. You gotta be, I hate to be in that meeting and one guy going like, do I bring it up? And they're huge guys, they're meatheads. No offense. They probably know, they probably, yeah. But if no one says it, we don't really, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I mean, and this is gonna be busting our bubble budget, but the fact that Hawk2 went with that spelling, H-A-W-K spelling, when like to me, it's the ham hawk. It's hawk-a-loogie, yeah. Spelled like hawking-a-loogie is spelled like a ham hawk. And what is it that like, you know, and this is not our territory, this is like, that's the other guys, maybe something for them to explore
Starting point is 00:35:26 I don't know if they actually do have a podcast or if it's just clips I mean like you are just saying you did it but like the idea of they wouldn't say but I did do that to do Part of it. Yeah, and so he just did part of it. So it might just be clips They said hey, can you come in and do part of this? We would love to have you come in and do part of this? We would love to have you come in and do part of this. Well, the part would kind of connotate that there's a bigger mechanism at work. And they said, you'll see that in due time.
Starting point is 00:35:52 They said, you're not gonna see that just yet. Wow, there's a bigger mechanism at work. There's bigger things at play. Like that door, the little door that opens to the side of the bubble. And the pit and the pendulum. And the pit and the pendulum comes out. We're gonna need a bubble for that one as well. Do you want to hit pit and the pendulum real quick?
Starting point is 00:36:08 Pit and the pendulum. Yeah, thanks for asking. Nice. That's good. Oh, maybe I wasn't ready, and maybe that's okay. Pin the Pendulum, glad you asked. Edgar Allan Poe wrote this great little story. Can we get Edgar Allan Poe clean? You said growl. Pin the Pendulum, glad you asked. Edgar Allan Poe was actually a really good guy. A lot of people don't know that.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And so I kind of started talking about Poe, maybe more than the story should. He was like 13-year year old cousin. Yeah, and then she died I think yeah, so some of this stuff I don't even know which is kind of cool. So like some stuff like I don't even have like the facts in front of me I guess Think she died I'm a little busy and then I hear I am feeling like shit that I had to click on the bubble But meanwhile the bubble guy is like, you know the fuck you talk about either. Yeah, we're all Yeah, yeah, that's a real sense of community feeling a kinship with the bubble guy for sure Yeah, you can kind of relate you go. Okay, he's not perfect
Starting point is 00:37:16 Can we find out if she died though because like we're gonna wanna I? Think she did he wrote a poem. Maybe we, when you don't know something, we can have you, a bubble flat, like comes up for you. You push it with your finger. And I go, sorry, let me look up a little bit more about this. That's right, yeah. So you're enjoying the technology as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And then Kevin shows up in the bubble. Like sort of a mix of practical and 3D rendered Kevin. Died at 24 from tuberculosis. So there you go. Tough break. Tough break sis. Mm-hmm. Maybe you shouldn't have been doing so much tuberculosis.
Starting point is 00:37:59 You know what I mean? You can be a little bit cheeky. You shouldn't have been doing so much tuberculosis. So are we getting, are we feeling kind of a rhythm for how it's all working? Like and it's proprietary obviously, like don't bring, of course you're gonna go running back to your crew. I know you do other shows.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yeah. I don't even wanna think about that. But yeah. It sounds like something I'd be willing to put into practice and it sounds good that people would know that I'm not perfect either. I don't have all the answers. Because people are starting to,
Starting point is 00:38:33 like you're developing this pedestal beneath you, right? Where everyone like sees Kacey Rockett. Isn't it true? And they think, unachievable perfection. Every factor. I don't know if it's by design but you've become this sort of superman. and they think unachievable perfection. Every fact said. I don't know if it's by design, but you've become this sort of superman, and I'm concerned that it's going to isolate you in a way.
Starting point is 00:38:56 And we all saw, you know, Malaney, right, was up on this sort of likeability and all of this and it was a prison for him. And he ended up being trapped and he felt like he could make no mistakes and he had to just come completely clean. It all came tumbling down. You know, and now he's got a show and he's doing okay.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Not that that's a bad outcome for you, but I don't want to have to go through the bumpy part. Sure, well if it could all be avoided. Maybe I should have a little more edge to me. Maybe I should have a little more edge that says, I'll be your friend, but I'll bite you too. Edge is a bubble comes out, a wrestler as well. Yeah, Christian too. So I would say Christian, not just the nationality.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Not the national, and then I would say, there'd be cat. That's a big bubble. Yeah, huge bubble comes out of that. There'd be huge caveat.'s a big bubble. Yeah, huge bubble comes out of that. There would be huge caviar. The bubble has a question mark and then when you click it,
Starting point is 00:39:52 it's like a question mark faces the bubble. And it goes like, yeah, I don't know either. Hollywood handbook. Hollywood handbook. Hollywood handbook. And your shirt is burping as well. So like, that picture of Tim Robbins on your shirt, both of them, those are burping also. Do you want to get a shirt explainer bubble real quick?
Starting point is 00:40:17 Sure. Oh. Hi, thanks for looking at my stuff. Why did you say sure before you said oh? Oh, I don't know. Like before you understood what it, you're like sure. Oh. Sometimes I'll just go ahead and just throw a blanket sure out there. What were you agreeing to? I'll throw a blanket sure just in case.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Just by time, yeah. Just in case I do end up agreeing with it. I want you to know I was on board either way. Look, I know the words haven't gotten to my brain yet, but when they do, I'm gonna be ready. Let me just give you a sure, and then I will process, process, process, and now, oh! Oh, I get it now, that feels good.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Like the thought feels good to get it. Oh yeah. Oh hi, thanks for looking at my stuff. So this is one of the cool, one of my cool stuff. This is one of my best stuff. So it's kinda like a kid showing you his treasures. Thanks for looking at my stuff. This is one of my best stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:17 It's a cool stuff. Oh, it's so cool. And I get to keep it. So I get to keep this. I don't share it with anybody. This is one of my best my best best things so I still haven't quite gotten to the movie yet Which is good you want to buy some time again so I can think about what it was So he looks pretty scared and he really was this is one of the worst He said one of the worst days of his life was making this
Starting point is 00:41:40 Wow Wow That's all you really need to know about the movie like if you're asking more at that point and like now it's personal There's bigger you didn't say who it was. It's Tim Robbins But Tim Robbins is one of the worst days of his life One of the worst days of his life personally and also one of the worst days of that guy's life is it in the movie? Yeah, horrible So no good really really bad. It was a no good rotten day. It was a no good rotten day if there ever was one.
Starting point is 00:42:10 And it's from, and it is a podcast that I don't think you said the name of the movie, it is Jacob's Ladder. Jacob's Ladder. So just as you're thinking back, you're like, oh yeah, Tim Robbins and Jacob's Ladder. It's funny to describe that as being a very bad day, but you do have to go back and think about it now, because if you were just listening to the podcast,
Starting point is 00:42:26 you didn't know what the movie was. But the listeners at home are- Who the person was. The listeners at home are going right now, they're going, sure. And then in a little while, they'll start thinking about what we've said. That's, that is trust.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Oh, it's a movie. That is trust. Oh, a movie, oh, okay. It was a movie, yes. Didn't even know at the beginning that the shirt was about a movie, just that it was It was a movie, yes. Didn't even know at the beginning that the shirt was about a movie. Just that it was a shirt. No, just this is what it,
Starting point is 00:42:48 well, he didn't say shirt. He said, thanks for looking at my stuff. He didn't say thanks for looking at my shirt. You said shirt. I had said shirt. Thanks for looking at my stuff. This is one of my best stuff. It was just one of my best stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I get to keep it. I don't share it with anyone else. I don't share it. Like all of this. And he said this is one of the worst days that he ever had. Yeah, was making this. That was the most specific that we got
Starting point is 00:43:07 that someone associated with the shirt is a boy. So I guess there's an image on the shirt that is from a specific scene in the movie because the movie wasn't just one day to make it. So if you say, yeah, it was multiple days, but this particular day of filming was the worst for me because that was the worst. And I don't know if that was before or after he got divorced from Susan Sarand did, but I particular day of filming was the worst for me, because that was the worst.
Starting point is 00:43:25 And I don't know if that was before or after he got divorced from Sue Sarand did, but I imagine there were some tricky days in there as well. That had to be up there. That had to be up there. I met his son. I met his son. People are doing that.
Starting point is 00:43:38 The son is in the mix. I met his son. He gets it. And I talked to him, and then I went to the bathroom bathroom and his son was outside the bathroom and he said I just met KC rocket and he's actually really nice. You heard him say that. Yeah. And again this is the pedestal. You couldn't torture that story out of me. You couldn't torture that fucking story out of cool. No prompt whatsoever, it was such a thin connection. He was really cool. As a little bubble comes out of my head now. It's...
Starting point is 00:44:11 He was really cool. With an enterra bang in it. But you see what he's reacting to is this persona that you've cultivated of being out of reach. Mr. Perfect, right? Mr. Nice Guy. In every, no, not Mr. Nice Guy. Sorry, I really thought we were on the same page.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Mr. Perfect, another wrestler, in fact. That's true, he was. Kurt Hennig. Was he Christian? Was he of that nationality? Hard to say, hard to say. If you had cultivated the Mr. Nice Guy persona, then Young Robbins is not saying actually really nice.
Starting point is 00:44:51 He's not saying he's actually really nice. That's true. Do you see what I'm saying? That does put forth the idea. No, he's saying he was really nice as expected. It's not newsworthy. In keeping with the persona we all associate, he's really nice.
Starting point is 00:45:03 He's not calling people over outside the bathroom. Hey, come here. Like to report interesting news, we all associate, he's really nice. That's what people say about me and Haze. He's not calling people over outside the bathroom, hey, come here. Like to report interesting news, which is that you are actually really nice. I met this really nice guy, and everyone else has also thought that about him. He's saying Mr. Nice is nice.
Starting point is 00:45:19 That's all. That's all. Mr. Nice is nice. Fine by me, and I can live with that. Well, you're not living with it, you're doing something else. Oh. What you've done,
Starting point is 00:45:27 oh, is you've cultivated this. Oops. This image of, it's not an oops, it's not an oops, but let's just get on the same page. It's not an oops. You've cultivated this image of, you know, living, breathing perfection, Mr. Untouchable,
Starting point is 00:45:46 Mr. Sinister, impervious to all attacks, short adamantium skin, nothing can hurt you, and you're this berserker, just your comedy attacks and you're this berserker, just your comedy attacks, just raining down on anyone who draws your ire. And then when people meet you, they go, oh, he's actually really nice. Which by the way, I think the same thing. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:46:15 You know what I mean? I think the same thing, he's actually really nice. Good. I'm in agreement. Me and Tim Robbins' child are on the same page again. What's his name? Did he want to collab? I think it's Max.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Was he looking to collab? He didn't ask to collab. He didn't ask to collab and I wish he would. So you weren't that. He's doing a lot of collab. I blew his spot up, he's probably not going to. Well he probably thinks he wouldn't want to because you're Mr. Perfect and he goes,
Starting point is 00:46:44 oh this guy's not gonna wanna collab with me. I gotta make myself appear a little more flawed I think. probably not going to. We probably think you wouldn't want to because you're Mr. Perfect and you think, oh, this guy's not gonna wanna collab with me. I gotta make myself appear a little more flawed. A little more approachable, yeah. Where I go, I'm human too. This bubble, it's a prototype. I won't have it all the time. And maybe also when we talk about our shirt, we go,
Starting point is 00:47:00 anyone could have this shirt. You can use my stuff. Just because I don't share it doesn't mean I'm opposed to it. anyone could have this shirt. You can use my stuff. Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. It's from Instagram. Just kidding, I'm gonna post it. Anyone can have this shirt. I mean, you should be able to click all his clothes.
Starting point is 00:47:12 And then you buy it. It links to his site. And it comes off. Yeah. I mean, how else did you get it? When I buy the clothes, the clothes disappear off your body. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:21 They can buy it off my body. How else did you get it except? So we'll just get every version of every clip with every combination of- Every state of undress. Yes, close on and off. Yes, so piece by piece, we'll do each state of undress and we'll do every clip multiple times.
Starting point is 00:47:37 So I think most of it is gonna be like, I'm liking all this, I think all this is gonna go pretty fast except the hat. So I think most of the footage we're getting is gonna be you in a hat solo. Just top. Sure, just the hat. I go, the hat's not for sale.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Thanks for asking. That's one of my most important stuff. And I've had it for a really long time. You could get your own. So that shows. But you'd be saying that fully nude because we don't need that in this version. We'll get it fully nude because everything else
Starting point is 00:48:11 at that point they'll have tried me like, okay, I guess maybe we'll get the hat too and then you can say it's not. They will have probably not. It should only come if people are trying to click on the hat. Right. Yeah. Thanks for asking. But at that point
Starting point is 00:48:21 I'm saying everything else will have been. Everything else will be gone. But if you ask. If they're going for the hat, everything else is gone. That means they've gotten all the other stuff. If they touch the hat, it'll go, hey, don't touch that. Maybe the hat goes, ow! That's part of me. Hey, thanks for touching that.
Starting point is 00:48:36 No, I go, don't touch that. But thanks for being here. So I go, don't touch that, but thanks for coming. I go, thanks for coming to the show. Even if it's not a show, it's okay coming. I got, thanks for coming to the show. Even if it's not a show, it's okay. No, it's thanks for coming to the show. I think it's really nice. This is what shows are now.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Yeah. You know? It's anything. We watching a clip is coming to a show. Why am I so distracted by the numbers on the clock today? It's all content. Has anyone else been looking at it? I can't, I've been looking at it.
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