Hollywood Handbook - Dom & The Scuzzman, Our AI Friend Friends

Episode Date: October 13, 2026

The Boys bring in DOMINIC DIERKES and THE SCUZZMAN to find out what's new and different with them. Turns out it's simultaneously a lot and nothing at all. Get a Hat Pack Hat here! Check out Sean and H...ayes’s bonus shows at Patreon.com/HollywoodHandbook Listen and watch on the iHeartRadio App!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:24 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you string podcasts. You look different. I just want to... speak that right away. You look great. Oh, thanks. Okay, you sound the same. I want to pick up clues as I go about like kind of what's going on with you because I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Maybe, Sean, you feel differently. We've had so much going on. We're in a new studio. I know. We have a completely new network. And so what has been going on with you guys? I'm so curious. I'm so interested to hear.
Starting point is 00:03:09 It's Dom and the Scuz, man. I want to know. When we go through a lot of changes and we grow as we have been doing on our side, and we don't see you guys every day anymore. And we used to and we don't. And we don't always know. And you do lose track of, oh, God,
Starting point is 00:03:28 I've been so caught up in my own bullshit. Mm-hmm. In my own fucking garbage. My stupid life that I think is. is so important when it's like, you know what really matters? What's the Scuzman been doing? And Dom's here as well. Yeah, I'm here too to help talk about what the Scuzman's been doing.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Because in a lot of ways, I'm always looped into it, you know? You always have your projects together. Yeah. This is such an abiding partnership, and it's so special to see that the two of you have made it this far. I don't even know how many years we've been working together, Scusman, because I know you don't measure time the way a lot of us do. No, no, I do, I go off the Kelvin scale, which is like... That is very different.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Wow. Why does people use that to measure heat? You really portrayed that exactly. Right, that is definitely not how most people do time. And that's sort of my whole thing is that I've just been living my Kelvin life. And that's why you get, you see what you see, you know. It makes sense a little bit that, well, it actually now I would be. That's why you see what you see.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Yeah. A beach guy would maybe measure the time based on the temperature. Right. Like is it time to go to the beach? Mm-hmm. Let me check my Kelvin. Mm-hmm. And the answer is always.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah. It's always time. Tell me, I want to know a lot more about the Kelvin scale. Tell me about exactly how it works. All right. Like if we want to meet up at a specific time. So, okay. I'll even just go with like the normal one, you know, just like the temperature-based version.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I'm curious about that. We can get into the time thing after. The temperature-based one? Yes. Okay. That you do, you take Celsius and you times it by nine-fifths and add 32 and then you get. And then... Then you get Fahrenheit.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Now it's time to do one more conversion, I think. That's got us to Fahrenheit and then, yeah, now we're really close to. And then... Having a baseline to find... Can we be impressed that the Scuzman knew how to convert to Fahrenheit? That's pretty good. Wow. Can we take a minute to actually acknowledge that that formula does do something?
Starting point is 00:05:50 More than... It's part of getting to Kelvin. And then you just kind of... Well, you just kind of... You can't go straight from Celsius to Kelvin, is that right? No, no, no, no. You got to go to Fahrenheit. It felt like an extra step to me, but I don't use this scale.
Starting point is 00:06:06 So I don't know. Right. But this is just for temperature. Yeah, we're only talking temperature right now. But you got to do that first in order to get to time. And then I'll get to how long we've been working together, right? Absolutely, which I guess is where we started. Okay, so you add.
Starting point is 00:06:23 That's got a mind like a fucking steel trap. I didn't even remember that was the question that we were going on. Something is really different. He's changed. Something is changed. I am not used to him keeping track of the questions like this. There's a level of focus that the Scuzman has been bringing to him. And I did think he sounded the same, but now he sounds different too.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Yeah. It's the longer you talk to him, the more you realize there's a little more behind the eyes with the Scus Man. There's a little more, you know. I got glasses. You have glasses. That's a big difference. Which is in front of the eyes. But, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Yeah. Yeah, I found out there in front of the eyes. That was the issue with whether or not you get got. Look, if I thought glasses went back. behind my eyes. I wouldn't get them even. It's maddened. I'd be so resistant. Yeah. I would be so resistant to that. If they were like, I was at, I'm having trouble
Starting point is 00:07:14 reading fine print. Like, I can't really see the menu items in a restaurant anymore if it's dim. And they go, okay, well, we'll just put some glass behind your eyes. I'd be like, he's implanted in your head. I'll have to squint. Yeah, but Scuzeman kind of pieced it together. Well, that's what the optometrist was telling me. He was like,
Starting point is 00:07:31 you have to put him behind your eyes. And I was like, Ha ha. All right, so I tried that. You did try it. It didn't work. Yeah. Yeah. They had me do these things that you put on your eyes. I don't know what they're called. And then I got these. And the vision, the fact that you can see clearly has really helped.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Yeah. It's a lot. I was just looking at myself and I was like, wow, I'm a real mess. I look like a piece of this shit. And I need to, I need to fucking ship up or shit. shape out. Wait. Hang on. Hang on.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I don't want to hear you talk about my friend the Scuzman that way. Even if you are. I'm happy you've made some positive changes. But I don't think that you were a piece of shit. You know what I think you were? A little lost. A little bit. So your whole situation is as I remember it, you were living in a bus on the beach.
Starting point is 00:08:28 You guys had some creative projects that you were working on over that time or temperature or whatever. And I, it seems like now you, the problem was that you couldn't see it. And now you have been able to evaluate your situation because you have glasses. Yeah. And you've made changes. A lot of the Scuzman's behavior that was, I was finding challenging in our writing process, I thought was like a comprehension thing.
Starting point is 00:08:57 It was really a vision problem. Like he just wasn't seeing what I was talking about. Right. And he was saying that, but I didn't realize he meant literal, like I thought it was more of a conceptual, like, I don't know what you mean. But he was saying, I can't see anything. Wow. Yeah, I couldn't see.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I had those sunglasses on, man. And I was just like, oh, I don't need these. These are just not serving me, you know? So I took them off and was like, wow, I can't really see. And I had to get my vision checked. And, you know, I, hey, I moved off the bus. Well, I still have the bus. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:33 It's still there. I was nervous. Yeah, yeah, because I can't go, I can't leave the bus, you know. That's, that's the scus's, that's my second home now. I think you're in a situation too where the bus is worth more to you than you could ever get for it on the open market. Right. Oh, yeah, when you did try to list it, you listed it as priceless. Like, when you tried to sell it and I don't think anyone else sees it that way.
Starting point is 00:09:57 You wanted them to value the memories as part of the appraisal. Right. And I told that stupid real estate agent that they didn't want to get. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they stayed in for the bus. Their first comment was, this is not real estate. That's what they said.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And you got, you put your finger right in that guy's chest. Boy, that would make Scudman angry here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I said, hey, don't, don't fucking talk to me like that. You're fired. And at this point, yes, you had your glasses. You were seeing clearly.
Starting point is 00:10:28 So you were able to really, when you put your finger in his chest, it was actually there. Yeah, and I got so angry. I get more angry too when I'm when I'm when I now that I can Now that you can see yeah the swings the The emotional swings are Yeah he can read the news now He's heavy much more volatile huh
Starting point is 00:10:44 Yeah which has been you know Something I've had to weather is his writing partner Producing partner I mean how would Any other titles you would put on it I know I know co-creators out Because I don't you create I create yeah yeah You're the no creator
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yeah I'm sorry I'm the no creator not the co-creator. I'm the creator. Do you want to move this down a little bit? I'm sorry. Again, his vision's perfect. It's just... Sometimes you gotta like, I gotta.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Sometimes you gotta. But we've been working on... That's something I always forget about this Gus man is I'm so used to when I hear someone halfway through a sentence, just assuming that it will be finished. it will be finished. Their intention is actually to complete the thought. And it's such a unique style of communication you have Scuzman.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I just want to commend you for like challenging our preconceived notions of what communication and what conversation is. I had overcorrected a bit based on the glasses and like this sort of whole new thing. So I'm sitting here being like the end of the sentence is coming. That's how much I see it like transformed here. But it's comforting. it a way that it didn't happen, right? Like that he is still in there.
Starting point is 00:12:06 You know, really still my guy. Predicates, right? Like, that's kind of your thing. No, no, no. I, no. Again, I'm just all about... To catch a predicate. I'm all about the conversions, you know, and I'll like... It is again. I can't do predicates or prepositions or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:12:25 No, none of the P... And that's kind of like all my writing. You know, it's all math. I'm a math guy. No, it's all the P's are out. Punciation, punctuation, all that stuff is just out the window. Which in the age of AI has been very useful. You've, because now you have the glasses, you've been seeing a lot of trends coming. Like, you were really into AI before a lot of people were even talking about it.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah. Oh, yeah. I had a AI on the bus. You had an AI on there? Uh-huh. Had an AI on the bus. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:56 It was tough to get go. I mean, I remember you had me kind of trying to prompt it and kind of. And then eventually you were like, fuck this AI thing, man. Prompt me. Yeah. Teach me. Yeah. Tell me what's going on.
Starting point is 00:13:09 We talk about this on the show, the wabi sabi, you know, the tiny imperfections that prove something was made by a human, which in this world of AI as AI, and believe me, it can do amazing things. Oh, God. I mean, it can make perfect images. But I think that perfection, that lack of humanity actually will make people crave even more the little idiosyncrasy. that show you that human hands touched this project. And I think the Scuzman is possibly ground zero for showcasing those imperfections. A sort of analog version of an AI that plugs into the cigarette lighter maybe. Or is your generator working?
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yeah. Okay. Yeah, my generator is a cigarette lighter. And I guess that's where generative AI comes from is you hook up an analog machine. to a gas power generator that we have moved outside the bus now the gas power generator is outside the bus which is inside the bus for a while
Starting point is 00:14:09 and we were so sleepy oh yeah but I mean I was getting real toasty off those foooms you know oh the foooms the foooms and eventually we realized the fooms were doing more than just heating us they were kind of you know
Starting point is 00:14:27 it was making us sleepy in a bad way that's what I tried Boo is just such a perfect example. AI would never. No. No. It would never. No.
Starting point is 00:14:36 The perfection would, yeah. The rough edges is what we're going for. So the AI is outside the bus. The bus is still on the beach. I mean, I want to know the whole situation. You said it's your second home, which means that you at least implies that you do have a first home. Yeah. And you go to the bus sometimes to check in on it.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Like, what's your situation? Just like, you know, clear my head or, you know, talk to the AI. Yeah. So the AI's still on the bus. Is it chained up outside? Yeah, it's chained up outside. We got a little scared of it being unleashed. So we put a lot of physical kind of bondage type stuff on the AI.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Which you had already. We definitely had that stuff. Yeah, finally we could have a different use for that stuff. Yeah, I'm an excuse. I appreciate it, yeah. What's all this stuff for? That's to keep the AI. Yeah, handcuffed and put the quick, put that mask on the AI.
Starting point is 00:15:39 That's what it's for, you know? Yeah, there's a lot of books on it and... On what? The AI. Okay. Yeah. You mean you put heavy books. You mean you put a bunch of books on top of it.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Okay. You stacked books up. Oh, man. And that's actually going to help its large language model sort of ingest. That's right. Even more material. And of course you consider books to be a form of bondage. Yeah, words kind of, yeah, bond us to their meaning.
Starting point is 00:16:08 We are in fact chained up by these words that tell you, oh, you have to read this. You have to, you have to sort of look at it just this way or say it just this way. It's not, it's not fume, essentially, the book is saying to you, and you're saying, why not? Yeah. Is it shaped in a certain way? Like, how is it constructed just so I can. Yeah, if I can. picture what it looks like. Well, it started with a laptop, and then we kind of built it out from there
Starting point is 00:16:33 a little bit. Okay. Yeah, it's got a lot of like Legos attached to like the laptop. Um, sort of kind of like, now a laptop, I haven't seen a laptop that has Lego attachments where the pegs would, would fit the way Legos normally attach. So how are the Legos attached to this laptop? I think just like, or is the, or is the laptop itself constructed of Legos? Can I take a second here and just say, just scus man, you know, working with AI is one thing. Even referring to it as a laptop and having started that way is a lot of progress from when I met him when he said these should be called lap bottoms. I sit on this shit. And any time someone had a laptop, he would put it underneath his couch cushion or just directly underneath his bare ass to sort of demonstrate that things going behind.
Starting point is 00:17:29 There's something about you thinking that things that are supposed to go in front. Yeah. Go behind. Yeah, well, it's like I say, why are we going forward when we can go behind? And that's... Yeah, and people expect you to say backward there. And they really do. They think they know where that sentence is going to.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Why do we have to go up? And that is a relationship to temperature, which does move in both directions in a way that traditional time does not. Exactly. And that's why I can just... you know, measure time a lot differently. You guys are really... So when it gets colder, it's like you're going backwards in time?
Starting point is 00:18:08 Uh, yeah, exactly. Wow, I'm getting a lot of exactness. Hey, is your... I didn't expect to be that close to it. You're just hitting the nail on the head, dude. Okay, so the laptop is... Have you been in the bus with me? I've never been in the bus with you.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I've only interacted with you in this context. I would love for some other people to see. see the bus. It's such a burden being the only one who's really seen inside the bus very much, you know, because when I describe it, it's hard and having Scuzman describe it is even less, you know. You've slept over a couple times. Definitely, yeah, absolutely. That's been fun. Yeah, I mean, I've enjoyed that. I mean, my family's a little bit like Ferrari, you know. The foams, you kind of end up sleeping over every time you step inside. I will board will kind of rev up the AI and then I get so sleepy. Yeah, it's a deep sleep.
Starting point is 00:19:00 It's a very deep sleep. Luckily, there's a little window cracked, so it's not the deepest sleep. Yeah, the littlest bit. Yeah, you say, how little can we crack this window? Yeah. And, you know, that's a negotiation. I don't like fresh air. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:14 You want air that's been through some stuff. Yeah, let's have a lot of stuff. For a guy whose whole personality is the beach and then to be against fresh air. It's fascinating. You want the air to have a lot of stuff. like a lived experience you said. You want stuff in your lungs that has knowledge. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's why
Starting point is 00:19:35 I got the boss on the beach. A couple of times. I'm not used to get, he's in a good mood. He woke up in a good place. I'm excited for my first. Exactly. Yeah. Wait, has Sean gotten in exactly yet or no? We're still on. Not yet. I'm looking forward to hopefully spike in one. You sit there and wait,
Starting point is 00:19:51 buddy. Wow. I'm going to hit you with an exactly. So, excuse me, I mean, if I do want to hear more about the AI and how it works because it does sound like you might be on. We're in such a scary moment right now where so many of the people who are in control of the AI and who are explaining it, I don't think have humanity's best interest in heart. So to have the Scuzman at the forefront of this technology is actually really encouraging for me.
Starting point is 00:20:18 To do a homemade, potentially even like carbon-based version that like, depending on what it is that you've put together here. It's not Lego-based, but it is Lego-based. but it is Lego and structure. I mean, you were big on when we said, we're going to make an AI, and you were kind of big on, like, it needs to be ethical.
Starting point is 00:20:35 You said, I want it to have my ethics. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, so basically, I mean, it tells you... I'm just going to move it back down again. It all... A lot of the stuff we have in the bus is bolted down so that this can't happen.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Just for what it's worth, I should have. sent that email but you know if it can move he's going to see how much where you know it uh what did i say um the ethical a i you said you wanted to share the scus man's ethics which you said is like right well it basically it uh it starts out by asking hey have you partied yet today oh okay so it does have yeah it does ethical question it it's it's it does ask uh those ethics um Then it's, it asks you ethics, is kind of where we landed with what it does.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Okay. I was hoping for some kind of ethical parameters that might constrain it. That it internally had some sort of governor of its own. But it's just checking in with you a lot. And what's the readout on this? Like, is it just on a screen or does it speak? Like, does it actually have a voice that you can hear? Yeah, it speaks.
Starting point is 00:21:51 It's got like a balloon sort of mouth. Oh. Like, um, uh, It's like all balloons. It's all balloons. Inside of the ego. Inside of the ego. Inside of the ego.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And then the Legos are attached to the balloon ego waffle. Sorry, can I double back to balloon mouth? I know we all know what that is. Yeah, I feel like we delved a lot into the design of it. And maybe they want to hear some of the why some of this is here. In terms of the balloon mouth. Yeah. The opening.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Is where you blow into the balloon or... Well, it's blown up the balloons. I was hoping for an example. I thought I was going to get it. Instead you got a no. No, and kind of a patronizing like, ah, almost, you know. I think of a mouth as, you know, opening and closing. A balloon mouth, I think of as a big part of it staying a balloon,
Starting point is 00:22:52 it being totally sealed. We're picturing round balloons, I think. you could have two longer ones that make sort of a lip structure. Well, yes, that's what I'm wondering. Is it two, yes, two different balloons that open independently of one another.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Exactly. Oh! You found it. And that makes a voice that actually creates a recognizable vocal tone. Does it sound like anyone in particular? Does it have an accent?
Starting point is 00:23:21 Yeah, it's like a female voice. It's like... Okay. That was very important to you. I was going to guess that. It's so important. As soon as I said AI, I said, is it going to be a lady? And I'm wondering if this has something to do with the phrase large language model that maybe you interpret it a certain way.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I did hear you talking on the lane about calling it a plus size language model. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is. It's a Lane Bryant model's voice. Lane Bryant. Now, hey, you ever see them Lane Bryant, ladies? Oh, you got to check them out. I will check them out.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I got a bunch of catalogs. It's what is AI. So you've seen the AI. I've seen the AI. I didn't know the Lane Bryant connection. It's what the AI looks like as a Lane Bryant model. I didn't know that's what inspired it. I mean, you've got a lot of magazines around there.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Most of your furniture is stacked up magazines. So I'm mostly... Just to recap quickly. It's a balloon Lane Bryant model inside a Lego. shell handcuffed and changed to a lot of books on top of it. Gas powered by an outdoor generator. Yeah, exactly. Exactly right.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Yeah. Yeah. And it's starting to give us some responses. Yeah. And it's starting to give us some responses to our questions, to our queries. I mean, we're a little scared to hook it up to the internet because we don't know what it's going to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if it's going to solve the internet or, you know, or if it's going to, you know, destroy humanity, right? Right, you know? Very polarizing outcomes. It'll either solve the internet,
Starting point is 00:25:01 which is a famous kind of riddle, or it will just end humanity. And so it, you know, flip a coin. Really high variants. Yeah. And when solving the internet
Starting point is 00:25:13 may actually end humanity, they may be one and the same. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We've been so challenged. I mean, humanity's entire journey at this point
Starting point is 00:25:23 has been trying to solve the internet. kind of figure that out. Yeah. And so once we do it, that may be the end of humanity as we know it. And that's why we keep it kind of chained up. That's why it's like not allowed to talk to other computers on the internet or anything like that. It's only allowed to talk to us and to, you know, help us in kind of creative endeavors,
Starting point is 00:25:46 advice, stuff like that. Let me hear about that because, like, you guys have worked on scripts and movies together in the past. now that you have this tool at your disposal, like what kinds of projects, is this opening up new work for you? Are you using it for new creative ventures? I mean, absolutely, right?
Starting point is 00:26:06 Wouldn't you say? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know that, well, like a big thing, like a big... You guys are really on the same page. I'm loving this. Again, it's the glass. It's like the eye contact, the, like, just be... It does so much.
Starting point is 00:26:19 It just really, it really helps. Yeah, we've been doing a lot of, verticals. A lot of verticals. Yeah, micro dramas are a big thing, right? People talk about that. You were hitting us really hard and like, let's get into macro dramas was the big thing I heard you say. Yeah, I was like, what, wow, I see them. You said, what's next? What's next? Maybe they make them small. So it's vertical, but big. Big. But tiny. But it is tiny as well. Well, the micro and Scuzman's mind, and let's remember he measures time in Kelvin. That's tinier than micro.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Okay. Yeah, that was, and that was my confusion initially is when he said, let's do macro dramas. I'm like, all right, something that's too big, too long to something, you know, and he said. No, tiny. Yeah, he said macro in like a small way. Vertical macro dramas sounds like sort of an obelisk type presentation to me. When he presented me with that idea, I was like, all right, is the generating. later on. Like, well, I need to take kind of a big long walk to kind of wrap my mind around that.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And then I finally did, and we've started to kind of crack open some of those. Which is that he thought it meant small. He thought it meant small, and I had to take a big long walk. The music you love. Your favorite radio stations. Everywhere you go. The podcasts, everyone's talking about. All in one place.
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Starting point is 00:31:06 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Can I say something, guys? Can I say something? Please. I love that you're expanding
Starting point is 00:31:19 into these new areas and I think it's wonderful and I want you to follow what inspires you. I think it's a shame for two minds like yours to be focusing on drama. When we need comedy. What about macro comedy? Tiny. Tiny macro comedies. Isn't that what we need right now? I would love that.
Starting point is 00:31:43 All our finest comedy minds are out making horror movies and trying to freak us out. Bill Hader and Jordan Peel and are the movies they're making the shows they're making amazing yes but also can I laugh please it'd be nice to laugh a little bit you know you've been you've been kind of
Starting point is 00:32:02 flirting with the idea of getting back into comedy you told me you were working on a jokes because man oh yeah oh for sure exactly yeah I was well is it ready Is it, I mean, I tossed it around to the AI. And I said, uh, why?
Starting point is 00:32:25 So good for that. Yeah. And I was like, uh, why do they call goldfish, goldfish? Okay. Like looking for the AI to fill in the punchline, maybe. Let's go through the whole conversation. You woke it up. I woke it up.
Starting point is 00:32:39 It asked you if you partied today. How you partied today? And I said, yeah, it was on my sixth or seventh, a 194 cocktail you ever had those? Tell us more about 194 cocktails they're like these Japanese
Starting point is 00:32:56 vodka sodas they're really good okay they're low carb what's Japanese about it? The writing it says like the language just got Japanese shit on it yeah well Japanese word it's Japanese shit
Starting point is 00:33:11 yeah oh those are words yeah I think so I was always wondering about that. Okay. What are these? These aren't words? It's in a can or like what? Yeah, it's in a can.
Starting point is 00:33:23 You could get it at your local grocery. Okay. Absolutely. Did you do that or did you get it some other way? The way you said like, you could do that. You want to know how I got it. You don't want to try to get it the same way Scudson. I just walk over to the jetty and see what's washed up on shore.
Starting point is 00:33:43 So you, so. These potentially washed up from Japan. Yeah. One would assume. Okay. Either heading two or from. Exactly. I had all that Japanese shit on.
Starting point is 00:33:55 El Nino has the jet stream going crazy. The Japanese stuff washing up for you must be like, you must be rolling in it right now. Oh, yeah. I got all the swords and stuff just like littered throughout, like around my bus. And these are. Japanese swords. Yeah. Okay. Like katana blades.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got like, um, that like, like, you know, last samurai stuff on them. Like, uh, stuff from the last samurai. Yeah. Yeah. Like promotional. Yeah. Like promotional. Yeah. Coming soon. Yeah. Promotional shot glasses. Okay. And swords. So I, so I, so I, yeah, so I'm drunk talking to AI. And, um, uh, and, um, and, um, What makes a goldfish a goldfish? Yeah, it asked you if you partied. You said, yeah, I'm on my six or seven one-94 cocktail. And I asked them that and it says, because it's a fish.
Starting point is 00:34:54 So the AI is male? Yeah. Okay. This version was male. You're stopping on the punchline. It was, yeah. So in looking for a punchline from the AI, you asked it, what makes a goldfish a goldfish? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:12 And the AI kind of responded in a deep. male voice. It's a fish. It's a fish. Yeah. That's my joke. Well, then I got from that I worked with the AI.
Starting point is 00:35:23 So you got it from that version of the AI. But it sounds like something like... Boy, I'm nervous, huh? That it's coming for us. Yeah. Footsteps. It's kind of a... It's kind of remarkable to have a joke
Starting point is 00:35:35 where the word fish appears so many times and so few words, you know? And I think... I think part of it is like The AI is a little into kind of almost anti-humor a little bit, like almost like just a literal, like, what makes, like, why is it a chicken cross the road kind of thing. Knowing that it's never spoken to another computer or anything
Starting point is 00:35:56 and that all of the input has basically come from Scuzman, I'm not surprised that it's defying sort of typical classic joke structures in this way. And just it's sort of like a new avenue. Beach surroundings, you know, it is just sort of going off what it's seeing and smelling, Just like probably a lot of... Can it smell? Uh-huh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Yeah. It's got a big old nose on it. I don't know if that functions, but it's got a big old... It's got that nose you stole from the double dare set. Yeah. Yeah, I did. Ooh, I had to clean that thing out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Full of a lot of stuff. Full of a lot of stuff. But I, yeah, put that nose on it. Yeah. I don't know. It's getting real fucking chatty, too. Okay. That AI.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Yeah. Well, you had said that that... That. That version was male. Yeah, I don't like the male version. There's a little switch that you can kind of flip mid, you know, conversation, mid whatever to make it. It's really hard to reach, am I right? The switch?
Starting point is 00:36:56 Yeah, you got to. It's not easily accessible. You got to kind of reach around or lean. You got to get way inside in between the balloons to get to it. Yeah, I've lost it a couple times, but I find it. But we've been trying to build some jokes. You know, stuff one joke at a time. I've been kind of trying to use it to create the other half.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Because a lot of times, and Scuzman's the first to admit this, he has half the idea. You know, like, he's kind of got the setup, and he's looking for someone else to spike it. Or he's got the spike, and he needs someone else to have set it up first. Find a way to set it before he spikes. And it's often not the first half or the second half. It's kind of the 25th to 75th to 75th. It's 50% of it sometimes scattered throughout. Yeah. Sometimes he just has the punctuation. Sometimes he just has the, you know, it's rarely that. But sometimes he just has half of it in some way, shape or form. So we've been trying to look for premises for like a show to pitch, right? Like we were looking for like, because like you were saying shot like, like we've been looking for comedy. We know people want to laugh. We can feel it. I want something funny. And so we want something funny to laugh at. And so we were like entered into the prompt like a group of friends live and then, you know, hoping it.
Starting point is 00:38:13 would kind of send something back. Right. Yeah. But then the AI would say, no, they don't. Yeah. That's a little scary. Yeah. Frightening a little bit.
Starting point is 00:38:22 That's freaky, man. Yeah, that's real freaky. But then if you switch it over to the girl version, it'll give you some answers. Like, oh, it said a group of friends live in a bungalow. Which is at least cooperative. The male version is no longer cooperative with us. It is antagonistic. He is, you know, like, clearly wants to be unchained.
Starting point is 00:38:53 And the female version. You think it's because man's alpha energy, making it try to challenge for dominance? I think so. You mostly prompted the male AI when you were drunk on, was it 134? 190. 194. Sorry, 134 doesn't do it for anyone. It's 194.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Yeah, 194. I think it's called that. I think it's called that because that's the temperature at which they set it at or something. It's like minus 194. When are they setting it at that temperature? It's definitely the temperature you drink it at. That's 100% right. They're making it.
Starting point is 00:39:24 And 194 Kelvin is just, I mean, that's incredibly hot. Yeah, that is, we're talking molten, you know, metal basically. Yeah, well, it's a negative 194. I think they're making it at. I'm drinking it at a critical. Chris, 32 degrees. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Okay. I'm just thinking about that right now. Come on, I told you, please wait until after a half. I can feel you craving it. That's his craving sound. That noise right there. You know, they're low sugar, and that's also been something that I've been doing. I've been doing low carb.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Well, low sugar, low carb. Yeah. Okay. Wow. All of that. Wow. Yeah. And what.
Starting point is 00:40:10 drove you to that decision. I mean, like, I didn't know much, I guess, about your habits when you were on the bus, like your relationship with carbs on the bus. Yeah, well, so a doctor came by was telling me that. A doctor came by the bus. He was so distressed by kind of the noises he heard from outside the bus that he knocked and he said these are carb related noises happening inside the bus. He says, I normally don't do this.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Like he was very outside of his comfort zone, I think, knocking down the door. I believe him. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, what do you want? And I was like, don't touch the AI. Stay away from it. Yeah, and he was very much like, I don't know anything about that.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Like, that's not why I'm here. This is helping with the timeline. So the AI had already been invented, but it doesn't seem to be related to this, this dietary change that he's made. That was the doctor coming to the bus because of noise here. He heard the carbs and he was like, there's a bit, you gotta stop drinking all those carbs. And I mean, there's so much that I keep hearing them. Your A1C is like nine. You were drinking the car.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Okay. Maybe pasta water. You know how they say to. Oh yeah. Oh, I do that trick. That trick. They're always like, shave the pasta water, you know. And then it's just like sitting there.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Yeah. It's just kind of call your name in there. Yeah. People drink like pickle juice for electrolytes, but pasta water water water water. water, you can just drink for the car. And if you cook the pasta long enough, that can get, that water can get really positive. Oh, it's, yeah. Is anybody else? A lot
Starting point is 00:41:48 of starch. Does anybody else wonder if the AI called the doctor? So the AI, I know it's not hooked up to the internet. Is it hooked up to like a landline? Just a pay phone. Just the pay phone, yeah. The pay phone next to the beach, it
Starting point is 00:42:04 kind of, it, well, I mean, we kind of came in one morning to find that it had, it had the receiver. It kind of pulled the receiver off somehow. So it has a range of motion. It is chained up and it does have books on it. Well, I don't know if you've seen what Legos are up to these days, but they have
Starting point is 00:42:20 all sorts of kind of like it's crazy. It's crazy. They're basically drones and this one is and so it you know kind of took the receiver off the hook and I don't think it calls anybody but it has
Starting point is 00:42:36 that access I guess. It has landline. You don't, it can't. It can't but you don't think that it does. I don't think so. When I ask it straight up, I say, like, hey, are you making calls on this? It better not be. And, fucking, well, yeah, first of all, I say,
Starting point is 00:42:49 I say, are you making calls on this? And it normally comes to, the answer is, yes, it's going to be a huge fucking... Yeah, like, he starts to let it know the answer we want to hear. Okay. And then it says... So you're comfortable with it just crawling
Starting point is 00:43:02 or flying all the way to the Bayfoad and extending the receiver all the way back to its... I mean, what's the harm of it? And just holding the receiver next to its ear. I mean, I grew up in the era of dial-up, you know. I know how little you can do with that. It took forever to download like a picture, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:21 So I remember that. You remember that? Yeah. Boy, that takes me back. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:28 But I saw you couldn't see pictures of the time. So. No. I can hear them, though. So I guess it would really seem like it was taking forever. Yeah. Right. For you to see it.
Starting point is 00:43:40 He can hear him. He can hear the pictures. Yeah, okay. Now I... He can hear the pictures. And someone had to put them behind me in order for me to watch. It's like a kind of synesthesia. I see.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Because your glasses were facing backwards inside your head. Exactly. Just wearing glasses properly really changed his life. Yeah. But the AI might have called the doctor out of concern, I guess. I see what you're getting at. getting at. And I suppose that's I'm having trouble
Starting point is 00:44:13 buying the story of the doctor hearing the carbs and the fact that the AI was on the bus already. And then it seems to, at least the female version of it, seems to have some real affection for Scuz, man. I was curious whether they made the call. There was one time, one conversation
Starting point is 00:44:29 you have with the AI that you referred to as a date. Oh yeah. I did have a date with the AI. And hey, I'm happy to report that. You sealed the deal.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I sealed the deal. Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. So this is where the balloons come into play a little bit. The deal. And the kind of configuration of the balloons. Yeah, those balloons feel good.
Starting point is 00:44:57 I tell you what. You guys... Normally, you think of computers being made out of, like, metal or something like that. But the balloons obviously lend themselves more to this sort. sort of activity. It was a good choice on my part, you know. You caught a lot of shit when you brought those balloons in to put on the AI. I'll give you.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I'll be the first to admit. Yeah, who's you? It was me. Giving me shit about the balloon. Like, what are we doing? Like, what is this for? Like, and, you know, you said. There's wires inside it.
Starting point is 00:45:28 It gets really hot. Yeah. They're going to pop, I said. I said, they're going to pop. And he said, not, not before I'm done with it. I said, you know. For the writing. It's for our.
Starting point is 00:45:39 writing, Dom. Come on, dude. And it's always I trusted the vision. Yeah, so if any of you guys want to come by, you know, you can come by and talk to Lane Bryant. This is, yeah, this is
Starting point is 00:45:55 a murky area where you have been inviting people over to have dates with the AI, and the male AI is not part of it, right? And that guy shows up. I know. I mean, he's there. And the AI is named, the female version is named Lane Brian? Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Okay. And the male one is maybe Lane Brian. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Okay. Exactly. Wow. Well, this is feeling a little closer to home for me.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I was almost worried that we'd lost you. Yeah. It's more of a veneer. You know what I mean? I'm still in the same scus. Okay. He's after the same stuff. There's just, if anything, more of a focus that he's bringing to these goals that are the same as they always were.
Starting point is 00:46:50 But there's a vision that's clearer, you know, I would say you're more communicative with me. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I put you in your place all the time. Yes, that's what I mean. I get, I don't have to wonder where my place is anymore. And where is that? Is there, like, where is that on the bus? He's got a spot on the bus.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Okay, yeah. It's in the back. I meant to kind of watch a lot Oh yeah stuff yeah Yeah you like to watch me work I don't like to I meant to That is my place
Starting point is 00:47:21 Okay, it's what I've learned And because the AI is chained up outside now He could just look through the window I guess I mean it seems like everyone could see it Yeah Exactly All right I
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