Hollywood Handbook - George Civeris and Sam Taggart, Our StraightioLab Friends

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

The Boys talk to GEORGE CIVERIS and SAM TAGGART from the podcast StraightioLab about their Super Bowl cooldown party snacks. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Do you want to go over the menu? What do you, yeah, what do you mean when you ask me that? Turkey parm. Turkey parm, of course. So turkey parm starter, that's just an appetizer. Starter cubes. It's an amuse-bouche. It's a little cup of turkey parm.

And I want to go turkey, because it's usually sauce, noodle, turkey. For this one I wanna do turkey, noodle, turkey, noodle. And you, so I wanna talk about this because we've had this conversation before and I just want one more time to say, I don't think of a noodle as a part of the parm, I think of the parm as cheese and sauce and a meat. I'm getting to the cheese and sauce.

Yes, okay. I'm getting to the cheese and sauce. Okay, sorry. I forgot how many I was at. But it's shredded, but it's like jumbo lump turkey. It's like big, you know, it has like a big piece. Jumbo lump turkey jambalaya parmesan. Yes.

So that's the starter. I wanna do like boiled Chinese food. I just wanna get a bunch of Chinese food and just like. Yeah, just the one pot. Just, yes. Pressure cook. And just like get it so it's all, like boil it all the way down. Like a Chinese food chipolini if that makes sense.

Yes, thank you. That's exactly, well, and maybe you guys can help with this, because we will need names for all of these, like a little name card to put out in front of me. It's for our Super Bowl cool down party. Oh. Yeah, so on the Sunday of the Super Bowl, obviously,

there's like a lot of traditional snacks, and we've done episodes about it before, but the week after, you kind of just need to like, deepen your practice. Wow, that was. That was a lot. That was certainly something. Yeah, that just happened.

Yeah. At the Super Bowl and the, Yeah. The, all the dancing and it was a lot of. So it's about recovery. It's about recovery, it's about recovery, it's about healing, it's about processing, but it's really about just like trying to figure out

what the fuck happened. You know what I mean? Sure, sure. In the moment, I think we're all screaming and reacting and we're all in this race to be first and I think if you really just kind of sit back afterwards, you do need to unpack, wait, what happened? Are you guys feeling that right now?

Starting to. We're feeling a little bit of that. Starting to. So it took you a while to even process that the Super Bowl ended, it sounds like. Yeah. The first almost week one could say was just Super Bowl. Yeah. We just wanna be absolutely sure that it's over. That it's over. The first almost week one could say was just Super Bowl.

We just wanna be absolutely sure that it's over. You know what I mean? We don't wanna be bringing people into this space and have someone be like, guys, look. And you look over and it's still on. It's happening. Yeah, sure. Totally, totally, totally.

Well, it's that, I guess it's the sort of like, you know how in France, I believe, they call an orgasm a little death. So it's really like the- Yeah, they do say it in France. It culminates the Super Bowl. After it's over, it's actually just a blank. Like it's, you need a few days just to just to finish orgasm. Be in like a neutral stage

and then, and you're sort of state, and then afterwards, you can start winding down. Interesting. The metaphor I was thinking of was more like Mali based. Oh yeah, you're, I felt like you guys really were like. The country of Mali, so he's going into France and you're going into Mali. This is so, I'm always thinking international travel,

you're a glass of Nebbiolo, and then Sam is just party, party, party, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Dua Lipa. But all these people, I mean, not the last, I don't know who the last one was. You don't know Dua Lipa? But the first two have been part of the Super Bowl as well. That's true.

So it is, you know, it's not that far afield. That's true, how is France like the Super Bowl, George? Well, I think it's defiantly not like the Super Bowl and I'm proud of it. Okay. Why do they call it that? The Super Bowl? No, when they, when they, when they're coming.

When they come, a little dead. The one connection I can see is that my eyes cross and my tongue kind of sticks out like, eh, you know? But like, other than that. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. The one connection I can see is that my eyes cross and my tongue kind of sticks out like, you know, but like other than that. Totally. Well, you're also sort of like not in control. I think like.

You're evacuating. Death. You're evacuating yourself. Yes, you're evacuating. Death, orgasming, and I would say vomiting are sort of similar in this way where it's like you are. And a sneeze as well. I always say that.

A sneeze? A sneeze is just like an orgasm. Yeah, it's really the same exact thing. I honestly don't shoot. Stuff's shooting out of something, right? There's a release. Yeah. You feel calm afterwards?

Well, yes, but you don't feel any sense of a... There's no positive, at least with an orgasm, first it's pleasure, and then you feel pleasure when you sneeze? You guys don't feel pleasure when you sneeze? Both of you are just shame to me. I can't believe that happened. I do a big sneeze.

I promised myself that wouldn't happen again. And then I look over and I say, wow. God. Just like that. That was incredible. Yeah. Wow, you just blew my mind. Yeah, see I usually, I? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what?

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I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, what It is different though, right? Just like the, hi. Like that. You know, admit that's different. Are you ever tempted to say, hi stranger?

Hi stranger? Yeah. Stranger, that's fun. Like hello you, kind of a similar thing. Like pretending you forgot their name or because you actually forgot their name? I'll do it like this. Hello you. their name I'll do it like this hello you oh I see that that yeah yeah yeah so I know their name yeah yeah hello you how long this is the same attitude let me I have two, I go, oops.

And I go, you okay? I think I like to be more like, what I like about those is both of them are halfway between earnest and funny. In a way that actually is like way more traumatic than if they were either of the other two options. Like I would much rather just be like, so that happened. Yeah. Yeah. I did that earlier.

Yeah. Yeah. Which I actually think is closer to what I actually am. I think I'm immediately, I think a way to avoid the shame is to immediately go into comedy. Just irony, yeah. It's like, I'm like, all right, the orgasm is over. We accomplished it. I think I It's like, I'm like, all right, the orgasm is over. We accomplished it. I think I get too vulnerable after I turn over.

This is what I do. I turn over and I go, so what was your favorite part? Because I'm like enough games. Yeah. Let's just really talk it through. Yeah. Or just even, okay, what was that? That's good.

That's sort of taking accountability and pushing it away from you. Yeah. Do you guys ever, that was not on my 2020, my bingo card. Right? So true. You know. Do you guys ever get, do you guys get, do you guys ever get, do you guys ever get

blue balls from a sneeze? What the hell? Oh yes, absolutely. Where you're like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, and then it goes away? I know, it's, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. You know what it can really happen with too?

A yawn. Oh. That gets stuck. And then it's just stuck, and then it's in there. It gets stuck. Yeah, and it's in there for days. And the ache from your brain stem all the way down to your fucking pubis. It's stuck. Yeah, and it's in there for days. And the ache from your brainstem all the way down to your fucking pubis.

It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. No, medically that's not safe at all. Yeah. Sometimes I'm like, I've, I've, I've self-diagnosed as, um, narcoleptic. Okay. Um, because sometimes I'll need to yawn so much

and so many times where I'm like, I think I just need to go to sleep this instant and I fight through it and I fight through it because I have a job and you know, maybe I'm driving, who knows. Okay. Yeah. Wax go off. My job is driving for example.

That is so job coded. So, but I have to fight through it, but I think if I could just go to sleep, I wouldn't be hit with the Xeon attacks. So you are. You're a self-diagnosed narcoleptic. Because you have to go to sleep. But you're in remission or something.

Yeah, you're actually going to sleep. Or you're maybe like closeted? Is that? Yeah. You're pretty conscious of it. Is that the wrong. I was born in the wrong era. Let's just say that, where I'm not allowed to be

my full, authentic, narcoleptic self. I also always get narcoleptic confused with, what's it when you have sex with dead people? Oh, the necrophilia. Narcoleptic. He meant his necrophilia, sorry. He's not narcoleptic. He likes having sex with dead people.

I'm narcoleptic, not nymphomaniac. No, no, no, you are a nymphomaniac. But you're not a necrophiliac. Necromaniac. We do need the names for the, I mean, I don't know if you just forgot that we need the names for the different foods. Oh, sorry.

That's kind of what I originally brought up. So I think maybe chipolino is one of them. It's great, all the other stuff is great. I think it's a New England boil. It's a New England boil, but it's all Chinese food. Is this right? What you're describing in the second course? A New England boil, yeah, or just like any kind of boil, but it's Chinese. It's just like boiled Chinese. So it's like different Chinese food. So all of it in one pot. Just all in there and Push and push and tell. Boil in a china shop. Boil in a china shop. Okay. Oh that's, I come up with things like that all the time. It's like not a big deal for me.

That would be so good. I forget that people get impressed. But no, that was really good. That would be so good if it had a football. Oh my god, that's a play on something. I really wish it had a football thing. Excuse me, the football thing is that a football player is like a bull in a china shop.

When they're doing it right. Buffalo boils in a china shop, that's fine. I did it, I got it, it's fine, I took care of it. So that one is gonna end up being fine because I was able to. Coco Chanel said take one thing off before you leave the house. I would do the first word on that one.

Take off buffalo. Yeah, buffalo. Well then it's, okay. So we're back to. Okay. I guess if there was off buffalo. Yeah, okay. Well then it's. Boiling. So we're back to. Okay. I guess if there was a buffalo wings element, then it could be buffalo boil in a china shop. So.

No, those aren't boiled. Too literal? And they're not Chinese. Here's a question I have. Please. What? Is it for me or is it for everybody? It's for both of you.

Okay. Am I allowed to answer? Well, it's about their idea for food. So when we ask questions, let's just- You're not being held accountable for it. Thank you. Sorry, but just, I think the podcast goes better when we're asking questions,

if we just kind of make it clear, like who the question's for, who you can answer for. People can't. It becomes like a lot of cross talk. I think sometimes playing with the form can actually reify the- Playing with it is fine. Playing is fine. Playing with it is fine. Playing is fine.

Playing with it is okay. Playing is fun. Yeah. I think destroying it can actually be sort of destructive. You're a bit of a boil at a Chinese shop, but you completely throw out the floor, Marco. But if we play with it too much, sometimes you can break it.

Yeah. Okay. You know, a wise man once said, move fast and break things. Who said that? Mark Zuckerberg. Is that it. Yeah. You know, a wise man once said, move fast and break things. Who said that? Mark Zuckerberg. Is that true? Yeah.

Wow. He said, so people misquote him that way. He was saying, Mufasa breaking. I cannot believe you. That's what he said. I mean, I like, like, like, I just, I just want to be accurate with this show. No, he was like like he was summarizing.

Oh, he was like I see they were like what what is the line king about? He said he was like a great break things. He breaks all his bones. You get stampeded. Yeah. No, Mufasa breaks basically every single bone in his back. My question. Yeah.

What what to me, the to me, the foods that you are describing are actually pretty adjacent to existing Super Bowl flavors. So I wanna hear the question. So the foods are, you said? What is the difference between post-Super Bowl foods and Super Bowl foods? Like what is the goal with these dishes? Well, the Super Bowl foods are, I think you know this,

eaten during the Super Bowl. Oh, I see. I really feel like you know this, but I'm gonna do it. The difference is simply when this happens. I feel like I'm being condescending when I answer because I think you know it. This is all stuff we had at the original party. No.

No, it's new food. Oh, it's new food that you also had at the original party. It's not left, because it's happening after. It's after the Super Bowl. And the ingredients are not from your Super Bowl food. Are you buying them? What do you mean from? Like they're the same.

It's the same food. It's the same food, but you're serving it again. We didn't really name the turkey parm either. All right. You know that there's not like one food of each type that people just like eat over and over again. Like if you have like a tuna sub, then they bring you a different one

if you have another one later. It's not the same tuna sub again. In the same way, we had turkey parm, a turkey parm dish at our Super Bowl party. Now we are making another one. Another one. Yes, and are we riffing on it a little bit? Are we playing?

I see what you're doing. With the form and the sort of order of things. That's what I was talking about with the turkey noodle. I see. It's a soft dismount in that you are having the same types of food that you had for the Super Bowl, but slightly different so that you can kind of get used to having and not having them.

You're weaning yourself off. Yes, we're on the, I love the soft dismount. We're on the pommel horse. Okay, back in. And we're just kind of putting one foot down. We're easing ourself back into the rest of the post-Super Bowl year, and it's, we don't want to go cold turkey parm.

Okay. Could that be something? Cold turkey parm. Cold turkey parm, could that be something? And just have that like jolt to the system that could be really dangerous, you know, we were talking about blue balls before, you know. Literally, I was about to say.

Yeah, it's similar, it's really. So it's kind of turkey based blue balls. Well, we don't want that. So what we do is we eat some of the snacks again a week later without the game and we process what happened. Yeah, sure. And just a safety thing really. So the cold turkey parm, I mean, it's that,

that's not a good name for it. I was thinking maybe something like Parma and Greg, but I don't know if anyone named Greg is in the game. Yeah, Parma and Greg. Is Greg in the game? It was Greg Jennings was a wide receiver for the- Greg Olson comment- Greg Olson does commentary sometimes.

Commentate sometimes, but I don't think he's did it for this. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Do you have something? Cause you were so on it with Boyle in a Chinese app and I don't wanna- I'm sort of acting like you're the guy that does these.

To me, Colton- Any suggestion on it is like ruining it somehow. The idea that we are moving away from cold turkey, which to me is the perfect. But it doesn't imply anything about cold turkey. I know, but I don't want it to be cold. You don't want it to be cold. And I do think that parm should be in turkey. B-O-W-L apostrophe D. Bold turkey.

Bold turkey. Bold turkey. Bold turkey. And what's the football piece? Super bold turkey. Super bold turkey. Super bold turkeyD. Bold turkey. Bold turkey. Bold turkey. Bold turkey. And what's the football piece? Super bold turkey. Super bold turkey. Super bold turkey. Super bold turkey. Super bold turkey. And then we're doing like a pigs in blankets thing

with just a little like locks instead of. With locks instead of the blanket. Locks, yeah. So it's a sausage with locks around it. It's a hot dog, but this is like, yes. It's a normal size hot dog too, not the little one. Oh, I see a normal size Frank, one could say, with flocks. It's a large hot dog with basically like a salmon,

like a smoked salmon cock cage. Oh, that sounds delicious. That sounds amazing. All right, let's see. Okay, so we're trying to riff on pigs in a blanket. Okay, pig skin. Oh my God. Okay. So we're trying to riff on pigs in a blanket. Okay. Pig skin? Oh my God.

Pig skin. Someone just woke up. Yeah, that's right. I was wondering when you were gonna really join the episode. I love when that stuff happens when someone's just like sitting there like not knowing what to do. Just picking their moment.

You know, you go, are they like- And you're like, is he ever going to like figure it out? And then he. Well, it's like, is he is he holding a sniper rifle or is he just have his freaking dingus in his hand? And it turns out, you know, in this case, it's both. OK, so pig skin. All right. What else? Yeah, what else?

What? I mean, that's like three complete dishes for just like just for having. Yeah. Friends over. Yeah. It for just like, just for having friends over. Yeah, it's just a post, it's not the main game, you know. It's like- It's not even the real, the Super Bowl already happened. Okay, so that's it, those are the three dishes. I mean, is that like not, now you've got me thinking, like I'm worried that that's not enough.

Well, you were, you know, really stressing that the turkey was just an appetizer. So I was sort of expecting- The boiled Chinese food is like, it's a lot of Chinese food. Can I say this? Can I say this a lot? Just to put a cherry on it, pigskin a blanket. Pigskin a blanket. Pigskin a blanket. That's good. That's really good.

That's good, yeah. I guess I was sort of waiting for maybe a signature cocktail or some sort of dessert. I mean, these are three pretty. I would probably do a mocktail. I would probably do a mocktail. I would probably do a mocktail just because alcohol's poison. Yes, of course. Sure, sure.

Just because it's poison. Sure, sure, sure. Okay, so like maybe something, a Shirley Temple type thing, is there, we don't know about football is the thing. I'm trying to think. I know, what's this talk about? Shirley Temple University football. We don't know about football is the thing. I'm trying to think. I know, what's this talk? Who's?

Shirley Temple University football. Shirley Temple University football fumble. Fumble. That's pretty good. It's George and Sam. George and Sam. From Stradio Lab. Right?

George Shivers and Sam Taggart. And Tag is art, isn't it? Okay. Graffiti. Tag. Well, first of all. And Busquiat. Mm-hmm.

Busquiat, that's our favorite artist. Yeah, that's our favorite artist. Imagine if we still had Busquiat. Mine's Banksy. We actually, oh, uh. You and Banksy. Mine's Banksy. Imagine if they'd been able to team up.

Collab, just like we are right now. Yes, yes. That would be nuts. Do you wear the Bus. Mine's Banksy. Imagine if they've been able to team up. Collab just like we are right now. Yeah. That would be nuts. This is sort of the Banksy Bank-Squiat. Yes. Yes, episode of the show. Banksy. But I do believe tag is art.

I don't know if you've seen the film recently, but there's this really powerful message. Oh, tag the film, not the game. Yeah. The film's about the game. The game is a life- To me, the game is very- They can't exist without one another.

I think the game could exist without the film. No. And it did for many generations before the film. It could, it could. It can't now, but there was a time when it could. Well, now it's like, it can't exist unless it's monetized. That's just the world we live in. So to have the game of tag without any monetary,

without it being monetized would not really make sense. That's true. That's so crazy that you would see a movie like Tag and instantly think about money. The finance piece of it, when the message is actually that we do not stop playing because we grow old. In fact, we grow old because we stop playing.

That's the message of Tag? They say it three or four times. Oh, wow. Really? Well, that's just good writing. It's good to have it out loud. You don't want any ambiguity with these things. Now with the seconds, everyone's on second screens. You have to say the message of the movie

word for word four times. That's true. That's what they say over at Netflix. Yeah, that's what otherwise and and on the third or fourth time The guy is saying it has to kind of go like hey Yeah, yeah, or the woman hey who's the woman yeah, right? But it's like the main message of the movie It's like a person delivering like the main like that can only be a man Like it can only be a man. Do you think there should be? In that movie, but you're just telling yourself

you didn't see the movie because it is man. Because there are no women? It is man who are friends. They're playing tag. Are they actually playing tag? They've had a game of tag going. Have you seen it? No, but I saw the trailer about 400 times.

Who is in it? Okay, so it's just people who you would expect to be friends. It's made 101. It's people you would expect to be friends, right? He's 101. It's just people who you would expect to be friends. It's a normal group of friends. It's Ed Helms, Jeremy Renner, Hannibal Burris, John Hamm, and Jake Johnson. It's just people who you feel like are hanging out already. Sorry, now I'm confused.

It's John Hamm, Hannibal Burris, Ed Helms, Jeremy Renner, Jake Johnson. This is a comedy movie. I thought this was like a Sylvester Stallone type adventure. You thought the movie Tag was a Sylvester Stallone? I don't know anything about it. I'm just picturing a sort of a poster that's like more kind of severe and it's like Tag and it's Sylvester Stallone and Vin Diesel or something.

What's the plot of this movie in your mind? I think it's like a global game of Tag where they are chasing someone. It's like Tag with a machete. It's a comedy, it's straight comedy, but with some pretty legit action sequences. Yeah, the way they filmed some of the fucking tag was like, oh shit, this is like superhero shit,

like action movie shit. Truly dynamic camera work and massive physical set pieces that make you feel like you are watching like a Sylvester Stallone Vin Diesel type, but for playing Tag. Well, I do think that the idea of making a movie about Tag is actually pretty sort of, it's almost like deconstructing the concept

of an action movie. It's as though the plot of the movie was just that like. What is Stradio Lab? It's a podcast. It's a podcast. Okay, how come? On Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network under the I Heart umbrella.

Any further questions? I love those clips in the I Heart studio. Something about how water. The red room. People really are drinking water in those clips in the I Heart studio. Something about how water. The red room. People really are drinking water in those clips. We've always really wanted to just work in a conference room and we've never had the ability to do that until we signed with I Heart.

Yeah, it's amazing, because they're actually just people that work there at their job and they actually are in the background. Yeah, sometimes they'll walk past us. Isn't that so crazy? They must feel so crazy that they work there at their job. Can you, they're going like, can you believe this is my job? Pitch me somebody.

I'm at work right now. They also like, they gotta be going home to like their partner or whatever. And going like, so, um, I kind of a day at work. First, this was my job. They hold up a little video. It's you guys talking. And the, and the name of the company is actually something that I feel day at work. First, this was my job. They hold up a little video. It's you guys talking. And the name of the company is actually something that I feel and I've been saying for my entire life. The name of the company is iHeartRadio. Yeah, well, that's the name.

They called it that. They called it that. They ate with that. It also is thank you for speaking our language. It's also endlessly generative, I Heart Music. You could say anything with I Heart. I mean, they could move into essentially any medium. Yes, they could move, they, I Heart Film, I Heart Restaurants, I Heart Turkey. But it's I Heart Radio everything, right? No, there's I Heart Music Awards, that's the same company.

It's I Heart Radio Music Awards. As I was saying, it's I Heart Radio everything, right? You know there's I Heart Music Awards, that's the same company. It's I Heart Radio Music Awards. Weren't we nominated for I Heart Radio Music Awards? You know you'd think they'd just call it I Heart Music. I Heart Radio City Music Hall Awards. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Okay. Yeah. So it would be, like the restaurant would be like

I Heart Radio Burgers. Should we rename it I Heart Stradio Lab? I Heart Stradio Lab. I Heart Stradio Lab. That's nice. If you guys could be in the background of any podcast, what would it be? Ooh, that's a great question. I'm gonna need a minute. I'm in the background.

Because I'm a fan of the art form. Not somebody could just go, oh, you know, the main big show. I have to really think like, what, is it a specific episode or is it just any like? Well, it hasn't, it hasn't come out yet, the specific episode. No, no, no, no. Okay. Oh, all right. So it's not like through history, like what episode do I wish I witnessed?

We're not wish-boning it. It's like moving forward. Like, would I want to be behind? I'd be Jamie. I'd be Jamie who's responsible for Joe Rogan's information feed. Oh, is that a character on the Joe Rogan experience? We only. He's always telling him to look stuff up. Is that true? That's all I know.

Jamie? They're always saying, Jamie, look that up. Look that up, Jamie. Oh, that's interesting. And I'm looking stuff up, but sometimes I'm inventing little stories. You know what I mean? I'm coming up with little stories and characters

to tell Joe. Just to get him really excited. You know what I mean? To like, and like. So you're sort of, you're not quite in the background. You're kind of like the puppet master of the whole thing. You wanna be like, I'm gonna be a character. You wanna, yeah, but he can't resist.

What are the rules? Like what are the rules of the game? I'll go and we'll see if they're okay with this. Yeah, go. They kind of, so. I didn't know it was like that strict. I thought we were just like, I thought it was a fun thought experiment.

I think I'm understanding this. Sorry, I thought you were against playing with the forum. We asked you a specific question. We want a straightforward answer. We're literally like, where do you, which podcast do you wanna be in the background of? And you're like, I wanna be Howard Stern. Yeah, it's like, that's not how it works.

That's not how it works. You can't be a main character. The background, what the background is, is right over there. Howard Stern is not right over there. Okay? Jamie is right over there. He's supporting the show and he is in the background.

Is he the Robin Quivers? No. It's closer to, but no, it's closer to that, but no. He's more like Baba Booey, isn't he? Yeah, he's a little more like a Baba Booey character. I think I have an answer that'll satisfy these freaks. Please. I'd probably be the cave.

Oh. What the hell? I'm really trying to figure out. I would probably be the cave that the two bears are in. Two bears, one cave. Two bears, one cave. That's the background, isn't it? This is Bert Kreischer.

The background is so character. Bert Kreischer, yes, Bert Kreischer would be there. And Tom. Tom would be there. They'd be winding each other up. Yeah. I still think that's too much of a main character. You guys are so character-based.

Because I'm in the title. Are you classically trained at UCB? Because I can sense the training coming through. I think, you know, because we have something very sort of like simple. It's like, choose an episode. And we had to go A to C with it, and you're getting the training coming through.

You know, you're doing... It was sort of like, what would you be like the I Heart employee, you know? I would just be an I Heart employee. Okay, your show. Okay, ding ding ding. Correct answer. Jesus Christ.

And so who's in the background? What's like a background role on your show? Who would our answer? Okay, I think I would wanna be in the background of... If I could walk in the background of any podcast on Earth, I mean, it's going to be The Daily. Oh, interesting. Can you imagine?

I mean, yes, I do want to go for the biggest. I want to walk in the background of Michael Barbaro right when he's saying, like, here's what else you need to know today. Here's what else you need to know. I'm Michael Barbaro. And I malibit alongside. Can I help you? Sorry, can I help you?

And I'd be like, I just work here. And then I'd walk, it would be awesome. And I'd screenshot it, I'd share it. And you do work there? No! No, you're just saying you work there. But you could if you wanted to. Thanks.

But again, it's not about what's, he doesn't have a subjectivity in this scenario. He just like, is sort of there. But you're just not gonna be happy with anything I said. You're not like interfering with the shit, like can they see you? I know what it is, you're sort of, you're sort of Forrest Gumping it.

Like, you know, like Forrest Gump has, was in every major historical event. But that's what I said, can we go through his, can I be there for- Oh, I see, I see, I see. You want it, you want it all. But for Forrest Gump, it wasn't history, it was present. Can I be there when Mark Maron read Carlos Valencia for Phil?

Yes. Can I be there for that, you know what I mean? Yes, I think so. Can I be, okay. Yeah, I think that counts. If I walk through the back of planet money, like, do you think I could get any of the money? Joe? Again, it's not about the money.

Okay, okay. Well, this is what we tried to tell you about Tag, but this is what was interesting to you about it, was the finance piece of it. I'm actually, interesting. Well, again, the finance is more just like, it's a film, so it has to you about it, was the finance piece of it. I'm actually, interesting. Well again, the finance is more just like, it's a film, so it has to be in theaters and people have to buy tickets.

Doesn't mean the message of the movie is financial literacy. So some people make films and they go to streamers. That's true. Good point. Yeah. That's just as good, like there's literally no difference. Sometimes it's better.

Yes. Streaming is sometimes better. It no difference. It's sometimes it's better. Yes. Streaming is sometimes better. It's either exactly the same or it's better. Yeah. Yeah. Some people make films and they don't even have distribution for it yet. That's true.

That's awesome. That's actually like still like- So you go, it's a film. You go, it's a film. It has to be in theaters. But like, maybe- I see what you're saying. But maybe they don't have distribution for it yet.

You can make a film that is completely outside of the financial system. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And therefore it's not. Very much so, yeah. It's not necessarily monetizing tag to make a film about tag. You know, I think it's bad for a film

to get Oscar nominated. Inevitably. Then they go digging up your old tweets. That is private. Yeah, that's private. Mm-hmm. Those are private. Yeah. Sorry, that's private. Mm-hmm. Those are private Yeah, sorry. Those are pride. That's your statement. That's excuse me. Those are

If anyone ever uncovers any of my offensive tweets, I'm gonna say excuse me. That was for me. Yeah. Yeah, excuse me Those are mine Like hello like that's my intellectual property Yeah, if you're gonna repost this to hate on me, you need to pay me at least. If they find my page. Sorry, do you understand that I wrote those? You know that when you put

That's actually my stuff that I wrote. You know that when you put that in an article. Why are you writing that now in an article that has your name on it? Like that's not. And now you're training the AI with my racist tweet. What's the difference between Variety and Fuck Jerry? I'm not saying it. I don't see a difference. They're literally, they're joke stealing with my racist tweets. What's the difference between variety and fuck Jerry? I'm not saying it.

I don't see a difference. They're literally, they're joke stealing. Joke stealing. Yeah. Dealers, yes. It's crazy. It's crazy. Thank you so much for giving me the credit,

but meanwhile you're training AI with it. Yeah. Like that's what I'm like, I'm like, when people uncover some of the very offensive things I've said and written, I'm just like, excuse me, that's actually a thought that originated entirely with me, a creative, this is how I feed my family. Is with my own creative energy.

So for you to take that, put it in an article, cancel me, and then train AI with it. We have to do something. We have to do something. We have to do something. Those data centers are using so much. It's the worst for the environment. It's worse.

They drink more water than we do. Exactly. Yeah. And by the way, Cheers to that. That's a lot. Cheers to that. Seriously, seriously.

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Whoa. Hollywood handbook. So how are you guys feeling? I know things got pretty heated. About the episode so far? About the Super Bowl. No, the episode so far is going incredibly. Well, that's your opinion.

Well, the turkey parm is going to have to be not heated if we're going to do the like cold, play on cold turkey. But how fun if you say it's cold turkey and then it's actually steaming hot. And it's actually hot. And that's almost like food science, you know? How sometimes like you look at the different food and it's like molecular gastronomy. No it is, it's Wiley-Dufresne.

It's Wiley-Dufresne. It's Wiley. It's Wiley. It's Wiley. It's Wiley. It's Wiley. Like you look at the food and you're like, and they bring it out and they're like, this is cold. Yeah. And then you try it and you're like. And you go, they bring it out and they go, it's foie gras.

Hot food? And you go, it tastes like peanut butter and jelly. That's wily. Yeah. It's a mad hatter. Yeah, you go, there's steam coming off it and it tastes like peanut butter and jelly and they go, that's actually goose innards.

It's really crazy what they do with food now. That's crazy. Are you trying to impress with these? To me, if we're talking soft dismount, we're talking processing, I'm thinking comfort food. We're not trying to impress with these, like to me, if we're talking soft dismount, we're talking processing, I'm thinking comfort food. We're not trying to impress, we're trying to decompress.

Exactly, so you don't want too much molecular gastronomy, I don't think, for this. I'm going off your suggestion of saying that the food is cold but it's hot. Well to me, it's not gastronomy as much as a little, you know, comedic, sort ofomy as much as a little comedic. It's sort of impishness. The impishness.

It is, yes. It's irreverent, isn't it? We don't have irreverence in food anymore. That is very true. Everything's so serious. Is that the truth? Yes. Oh my God.

It has become so, I think it was, and by the way, I like the film, but I think it was Bernt that did it. Oh, that's interesting. You think Bernt, did a I think it was Bernt that did it. Oh, that's interesting. You think Bernt, did a lot of people see Bernt? The yelling. The yelling. Yeah, I never saw Bernt.

He was so mad. But you know Bradley Cooper, Yelling Chef. No, I didn't know that. Yeah, I guess, you know, I hadn't thought about it. You're absolutely right, that Bernt is what led to. It's a reflection point. Yes, like what led to the Bear, what led to The Menu. In a sense is The Bear digging up

burnt old tweets. And I can tell that you have an opinion about The Menu. No. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. And I just wanna say, I consider both of you very culturally well-versed, and I just wanna say I'm sorry that we brought up two movies

that at least one of you has never heard of. The movie Tag, George has never encountered the movie Tag in his life. But I do know Burnt. And but there's. But Sam has. Well that's why we're getting a new one. Sam missed Burnt.

Yeah but Sam was so on top of Tag that I felt like I could take him back. Well to be fair, this is a partnership isn't it? That's true. Well he's more of the Tag and I'm more of the burnt. Of the really- Out of YouTube. Which of you two is the tag and which is the burnt?

Wow. Now you're trying to start a fight, aren't you? I'm telling you. Why? Which one is like an irreverent comedy that nods to action movies and which one is kind of a histrionic Bradley Cooper- I'll tell you-

That ruined everything. I'll tell you what our combination actually is. One of us is the bag and the other one is the turnt. Oh my God. I cannot believe you. You can't believe that works? I cannot believe that worked. You can't believe that worked so well?

And guess who's who. No, don't. Yeah, well also by the way, you know, Tag and Burn, you said that was gonna create a fight. To me, Bag and Turnt, it's so much clearer with those two options that one is bad and one is bad. It's better to be, yeah, it's better to be one of them. You think it's better to be Bag?

I think there's beauty in Bag. I think when you're Bag. We're securing it, aren't we? Right? Would we wanna secure something? We don't fumble it, do we? We don't fumble want to secure something? We don't fumble it, do we? We don't fumble. We don't be in here, yes.

I guess we don't fumble it. Yeah, you're right. Do you ever feel like a plastic bag? I mean, that's such a beautiful statement. I certainly sometimes feel like a plastic bag, but I wouldn't want that to define me. I wouldn't want to be the plastic bag. But think about people who are constantly turnt.

I find that to be really off-putting. We do need some balance, right? Turnt has implications of addictive behavior, sort of like not being able to like know when the party's over. And now we're back to my mocktailing. Mock turnt is what we try to get. Mock turnt, yes.

Mock turntle neck. And what happens on this show? And maybe mock turnt. Our show or your show? What happens on this show of yours? The show that y'all do. The show that we host? The show that we do.

Well, this is an opportunity maybe to bring in some new listeners to your show. You're on our show. That's true, that's true. And people could maybe kind of say, hey, this sounds interesting, what happens on this show? So we, it's called Stradio Lab, which is a pun on Radio Lab.

I don't know if you're familiar with that show. Okay, now I've got a new answer to what podcast I wanna be in the background of. And so each episode of our show, we have a guest on, and it's a podcast about straight culture. So they bring in a straight topic, and then we discuss what's straight about it. And we usually have them make an argument

for what's straight about it. So let's say I bring in boat shoes. I have to make an argument for why they are straight. Now of course, we're kind of tricksters and so it starts out pretty literal. We're talking football, we're talking sports, Bud lights, but then we get to more avant-garde topics. Do you wanna say some of the ones that we've?

Sure, carpet, overhead lighting, things such as? Yeah, someone brought in math and tried to convince us that it was straight. And those are being straight or some of those are being? Yeah, yeah, it's like someone is arguing, my straight topic is ketchup and this is why it's the straightest condiment.

My straight topic is ketchup. So you said we're tricksters and we bring in some more avant-garde ones, but then you're saying someone is arguing that ketchup. Ooh, legal mind over here. I'm just trying to understand, I want people to, yeah. Well, of course, the guests come in, they wanna impress us, you know,

they know our sensibilities, they know that we're, you know, more tagged than burnt, and so they wanna bring in an original topic. They don't wanna come in and say, my topic is, you know, like, V-next. And do you say 100% agree when they introduce their topic? We are thinking of Subway Takes. Oh, yes.

V-NEX is best. Subway Takes is best. Which is modeled after. Okay, yes. Yeah, got it, got it, got it. Subway Takes is modeled after our podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it, okay, yes.

We're like. So you have the cab driver take you to just their place. Yeah, and it's just sort of about their story and what brought them there, what led them there. Yeah. And it's actually really beautiful. That's so beautiful. That's like a bag.

I, yeah. I'm like a bag. I'm actually, that's fucking me up a little bit hearing about your show. That sounds actually really cool. So what's up? We like it. Yeah. Can I ask what your guys show is about?

Yeah. Please don't. So we were actually thinking of doing, so like. Yes, Taze, this is a good idea. So we kind of do want to do a show about this kind of stuff. We just haven't really been able to kind of pin down a point of view on it. And not now necessarily,

Headgum is kind of like, let's table that. Yeah, not today we don't wanna do it. We've been going in and be like, we wanna do a show about like that stuff kind of Yeah, what do you do the opposite where each? Person brings in a gay topic and they have a gay deal And then you have and then they have to explain why it's gay and it's and it's all straight Men it's all I think that would be calling things gay exactly. Yeah, I think that would be

Amazing for us and maybe it could be even as a joke, like gay meaning bad. And so you can sort of call, you say, that's gay. So the things they could bring in could be things that they have a lot of disdain for. Yeah, exactly, it'll be like sweater vans. You know what could be awesome? If it was just like people.

Yeah, yeah, like people. Maybe like people from high school. Yeah, like loserish people from up school. Yeah. Like who they hate. Yeah, yeah. And you say, high school. Yeah, like who they hate. Who they hate, yeah, yeah. And you say, you know who's gay? That fucking dentist. That fucking guy. I'm sorry, this is fucking pissing me off so much.

Because I go into like pitch the show to Headgun and be like, be like, we want to do a show about being gay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they don't like it? And they're like, let's table that. We said, what we said was, let's just have that arrow in our quiver. Yeah, not right now, but as stuff is coming back around.

So we're ready this time. Yeah, I think we missed it. Last time we completely missed it. We totally missed it. We were just doing basically whatever this is, which is, you can feel it's not really. No. Don't say that.

It's not chewy. It's not really. No. Don't say that. Don't say that. It's not chewy. I think you're doing really well. No. When stuff was like really cooking and I would be sitting and doing this show and be like, fuck, this show should be about being gay. We completely missed it.

You have to trust those instincts. And we, I don't. I know, I should have just got, I saw it. Should have just grabbed the brass ring. I think at this moment, we can't do it. Fucking corporate. Cause we just kind of missed it, but I do just don't want to ever let that happen again.

And so I think we just kind of want to get. You want a different idea. Just to have it ready to have. I just want to be kind of coiled to pounce on whenever it is time again. And like figuring out exactly what it is. But to me, I'm already, I'm getting this sort of fear-based vibe

that you're waiting for it to be time. Oh, I'd like to wait for another gay president. Yes. Another one. Another one. Once another gay president comes around. I'd like to get another one. Who was the first one in your opinion, would you say?

Okay, well that would be a good episode of the show. Why? Yeah. Oh, I say so. That would be a whole episode of the show. Why? Yeah, that's like, that would be a whole episode of the show as we talk about. So you're already starting your way to handle things that are super gay. This is my experience of like, listening to your show.

I never know if you guys are like doing a joke or not about like whether this is like gay or not, but like, Joe Biden is gay. Yeah, so I can't tell with you guys what you think, but like. That man is gay. But we missed it obviously, because I thought he was gonna go again. I guess here's my question for you.

And then when he didn't go again, I go. Even after he said he wasn't going to, I go, he is, come on. He's gonna do it again. And so you think just to confirm, you can only have a gay-centric media product under a gay president. You think that is how the industry works?

I think there's a little more synergy there, right? Of course, of course. There's a little more cohesion, and just culturally we do wanna be like, on it, on it. And so I think I'd like to wait for another gay president. I don't know, Joe Biden's gonna do it again. We don't just like choose these people for no reason. You know what I mean?

Like it's not, it didn't, we didn't just wake up one day and be like, oh, this is the guy now. It's like, no, we picked this person. At the time that he was elected, let's face it, the country was hungry for this kind of pot cats that were described. Yeah, hungry for cock. Yeah. that was prescribed. Hungry for cock. Yeah.

Well. Well. You said it. I mean, I'm gonna sit here and argue with you, you know, no way. So yeah, they were hungry for cock. Yeah. And apparently they'd been satisfied

with only four years of it. They're full. So now. They're holding their tummies. Yeah, they're saying that's enough. They need to come down. Yeah, they're saying that's enough. They need to come down. Yeah, they're unbuttoning the top of their pants, but not that.

Not like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just to get. Oh, no, no. Server's coming over. Oh, please. I could have possibly. I'm stuffed.

So when it does come back, and by the way, we don't talk about this, Joe can serve another term. I know, that's what I'm saying. We just watched it happen, and now we're like, okay, this isn't just gonna happen again. It's like, obviously this is what's happening. He's coming back. Do you ever think that he's waiting for you guys

to lead the charge and start the gay podcast and then he'll feel empowered. I love that. Yeah, you can't come back unless there's appetite for it. It's kind of chicken or the egg. My, and I don't wanna come from a place of fear on this, but I'm a little concerned that we will, we will put ourselves out there, we will do a gay podcast,

and then Joe Biden will come back into office and he will somehow not be gay anymore. That is something that I've thought about as well that has been really scary for me and I know that. And I'll just be sitting here. I hate operating from a place of fear. Yes. But thinking about Joe Biden's second non-consecutive term

somehow being the exact moment that he stops being gay after we've done all this work of like laying out the groundwork of this really cool podcast that we came up with together. You know, you're a piece of this too. Thanks. Well, I have an idea. So you know what's actually all the rage right now

is these sort of like nostalgic rewatch podcasts. So I'm thinking you go, Biden's in office a second term, he's not gay this time, but your podcast is all about his gay term. Rewatching his gay, all of his speeches. Yes, exactly. So each episode is about a different super gay moment from Joe Biden's first gay term.

Yes, Gaty Jo Lab. Gaty Jo Lab. Exactly. I heart Gaty Jo Lab. I heart Gaty Jo Lab. Exactly. I heart Gaty Jo Lab. I heart Gaty Jo Lab. I heart Gaty Jo Lab, president of the US gay. And I just think like that's, it's an exact kind of like balance between like current,

cause Biden will be in office again, but also nostalgic. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yes. So that's a little ways away. Yes. I don't know. Do you know how long these deals take to finalize? I think you got to start making that pitch. That's true. This is what I'm seeing to when we go in and pitch this. They're like, Oh, this deal is gonna really take a while. They're gonna tell you inevitably to table it for as long as they possibly can. I know, well yeah. Believe me.

Maybe we took this off the table, it would go a little faster. Fucking corporate. Fucking sucks so bad. Just so much red tape and bureaucracy. I think you guys are so unsatisfied with your podcast output. I think of, we both think of you.

It sounds like, I Heart Radio sounds so fun, guys. We both think of you as so successful. I would say we'll look up to you as podcasters. Yeah, we think HeadGum looks so fun. Yeah. Oh my God. Stray Kids' lips sounds so fun. It's just a little, we're just talking here,

we're just talking. What if we made a little arrangement? You kill our podcast network president. Okay. Yeah. We go to I Heart Radio, we kill yours. our podcast network president. We go on our radio, we kill yours. No one will ever suspect. Well, because we don't know, we've never done an episode of any shows on your network.

Never been invited. Not once. No, it's never been asked. Not once. So no one would ever suspect that we were in the building. They really wouldn't think we would even know where it was. Well, what's our alibi? We've been in the damn building. People wouldn't think we would even know where it was. Well what's our alibi? We've been in the damn building.

People are gonna know. Yeah, everyone knows us here. Yeah, first name basis pretty much. Yeah, they're always begging to buy the pod. They're saying nothing we have is working. We really want Stradio Lab. Okay. Okay, all right.

So then we'll just kill, we'll just do that. We'll just do our part. I guess my question is if you kill both of them, then there would be no networks left, and so you wanna just go indie. You wanna do the tag model of. Maybe we do like a United Artists thing, and then once everyone is, you know,

after we take some time to like mourn. Some great product came out of that. Right? Out of United Artists. Yeah. And it couldn't last, of course. They couldn't let it really last like that, you know? Oh my God. What happened, Kevin? Speaking of President.

What happened? Trump just signed a new executive order during this recording. Oh my God. What is it? What is it? It's now legally pronounced Reese's Pieces. What the fuck? Okay, well, Reese's Pieces is how it was already. Yeah. Wait, did you say it Reese's Pieces. What the fuck? Okay, well, Rees's Pieces is how it was already.

Yeah. Did you say it Rees's Pieces? Yes. So it's now officially Rees's Pieces. You used to say it Rees's Pieces. So you thought that Rees's Pieces was the normal way to say it? They might have changed it just for you.

They just legally changed it to the other one. But just for you. Because I legally changed it to the other one. But just for you. Because I don't know anyone who really. Everyone else I know says Reese's Pieces and you say Reese's Pieces. I'm screwed. Guys, obviously it was an issue. They wouldn't do an executive order for just one guy.

No, this isn't the first time, Sam. What? He's doing a lot of executive orders for just one guy. No, this isn't the first time, Sam. What? He's doing a lot of executive orders for just one guy? Yeah, he's been really just nailing Kevin with these things. Damn, I'm sorry. Fuck. That's the new one every day. His year sucks.

I'm sorry. Well, it's okay. Biden will be back soon. And he won't be gay either. Yeah, he'll be straight. Yeah. He'll make a new executive order. No more gay.

For me. Joe Biden's gonna do that? Joe Biden will do that? Yeah. Wow. And of course I started a gay podcast right when I did it. Literally just started. Well, it'll be necessary.

Just started. You guys need to stop trying to like suck up to power. Like just because the president isn't gay doesn't mean you can be part of the can, you can be part of the resistance. You can be part of the resistance. Yeah, we can do like an underground type show. Yeah. Okay, so it's like a pump up the volume type thing

where we're in a truck broadcasting and no one can kind of pinpoint our location. Yeah. But with celebrity guests. Exciting to me, yeah. Yeah. Would you do that show Exciting to me, yeah. Yeah. Would you do that show? Would we do your gay show?

Gay DJO Lab? Gay DJO Lab. I would actually love to guest on Gay DJO Lab. I would love to guest on Gay DJO Lab. I'm trying to think, what would my, every guest brings in a gay moment from Joe Biden's first term. What would ours be?

I mean, an obvious one, I'm thinking J.Lo interrupting this country, my country to say, let's get loud. I think that could be a fun game. What was that? Patriotism. But what happened? Well, she literally was singing.

And this could be kind of what the show is. Yeah, so she was, do you remember this? No, no, I don't. That's what makes this such a good show for me. At the inauguration 2020, J.Lo, Jennifer Lopez, sang My Country Tis of Thee, I believe, right? Where there's a different song. How's that go?

Was it that one? It was some American first song. Some American song. Okay. And in the middle of the song, she's finishing a verse, she pauses, and then she just goes, let's get loud, let's get loud. And then she goes back to, I'm not joking,

and then she goes back to the America song. Did you guys really not know this? I'm confused. No. This is real. This is like your birth? This land is your land. This land is your land.

So she's singing this land is your land, this land is my land. She says, let's bring it back. She does, let's get loud briefly and then goes right back to this land is your land. So that would, I think, be my gay moment that I would bring to Gady Joe Biden. So it's not something that gay Joe Biden did.

It's something that happened under his watch. But it was like, it wasn't just under his watch, it was at his inauguration. Yeah, so he's implicated. So he's implicated. Well, you don't think he's part of the programming of that? It's his big day. He said, JLo, you need to do the hits.

At worst, someone thought he would like it. Yes, he was famously an inauguration Zillo, so. Yeah. And do you think he actually wanted like, you know, waiting for tonight or something more fun? I wanted like you know waiting for tonight I definitely think you wanted waiting for tonight but they were like that's not really the vibe we're going they probably couldn't afford it Trump we're trying to unite oh yeah of course it's the right the rights okay so what would you have

done like this block is your block oh that would be really good yeah oh that would been awesome right because yeah cuz she's from the from it and then I'm from it yeah yeah but that's gonna be as much as I'm gonna be able to do about Like a topic like this. That's what I'm kind of worried about like that's not true No, I don't know about Jennifer Lopez think of how much you know about I promise That's all I'm gonna be able to do like I like I I I know myself Yeah, and I so what what and as I was thinking that I was like, that's it Mm-hmm. That was I I scraped that off the bottom

So I'm a little worried about I didn't even come up with that like I like he did that I thought oh good Hayes has something he did that. Yeah Yeah, he did that. He did that. He did that. Yeah, he ate that. He did that. Yeah. I ate that. And I left no crumbs, but that's the problem.

That's the problem. You know what I mean? Because you're full from the Super Bowl. I'm full from the Super Bowl, and I have nothing left, not even crumbs. Damn. So I just, I don't know. I worry about the format.

Unless people are just telling me stuff and I'm going like, what happened? That feels like that could work. I think you can let your guest, I mean there are podcasts where it's like a guest tells a story and then a host. The guest does the whole thing, right? You get to essentially be the cave. I guess you could be the cave, yeah.

Oh my gosh. Oh that's good, your dreams are coming true. You invite two bears and they just rock it. Two bears and two gays. Two gays, two gay bears. true. You invite two bears and they just rock it all. Just go. Two gay bears. Two gay bears. Two gay bears, two haze.

Well, that's very up Sam's alley not to blow your spot. Don't blow up my spot. Don't blow up his spot. Wow, is it really blowing up your spot or is it maybe helping you? Except myself? Yeah. I never thought of it like that.

I think you've accepted that part of your personality. I've never seen any shame from you. George, I'm in a stranger's home. I can't accept myself when I'm in a stranger's home. I should not have mentioned that you were in today. I wasn't even sure if I was gonna come out of the closet today. Oh my God.

Yeah, I guess we were waiting to come out on Gatorade. You know how it is when I get around. Bye. Whoa. Hollywood handbook. That was a hateGum Podcast. Hey, it's Nicole Byer here.

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New episodes drop every Friday. Hi, I'm Caleb Herron, host of the So True podcast now on HeadGum. Every week me and my guests get into it and we get down to what's really going on. I ask them what's so true to them, how they got to where they are in life, a bunch of other questions, and we also may or may not test

their general trivia knowledge, whether it's one of my sworn enemies like Brittany Broski or Drew Fualow or my actual biological mother Kelly, my guests and I are just after the truth and if we find it great and if not, no worries. So subscribe to So True on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Pocket Casts or wherever you get your podcasts and watch video episodes on the So True with Caleb Heron YouTube channel. New episodes drop every Thursday. Love ya.