Hollywood Handbook - Gil Ozeri, Our Close Friend Again Maybe
Episode Date: June 16, 2026The Boys welcome GIL OZERI back on the podcast for the first time and it turns out he has a LOT to apologize for. Check out the Good Science podcast! Get a Hat Pack Hat here! Check out Sean and... Hayes’s bonus shows at Patreon.com/HollywoodHandbook Listen on the iHeartRadio App!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And we've had some incredible guests so far.
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It's the same thing with Slow Hands.
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It's good to have you back here.
I'm excited to be back.
Yeah, and I'm going to wait and see if it's good to have him back here.
I, and it's nothing personal.
Look, no, I get it.
I don't like to assume, look, as a person, it's nice to see you for the show, which is a
professional venture.
I mean, I'm at work right now.
You never know.
This is my job.
Yeah.
I don't want to just say, oh, pressure's up.
off. It's good just to have you here.
Right. Is it okay if I
also don't make an assumption about
whether I'm having a good time? I'm sharing how I feel
right now. Yeah.
Like, and that
objectively I can check in with myself
and say like it is nice to have a back.
Part of that is like
we are
doing well on the show
right now so I'm in a position where I have a lot
to like to give. I'm feeling
positively about where the show's at.
Should we talk about who we've had lately?
We try to be modest about this?
I don't talk about it that much.
I can feel myself wanting to make it like, oh, it's not a big deal.
Like, this is a podcast or whatever, to like make, to not make other people feel small.
Unfortunately, humility is not always a virtue in this business.
And you do kind of have to be your own PR team sometimes.
And maybe by telling our story, saying exactly where we're at, we can help people feel inspired.
I would love to hear it.
I would say, should we go through some of the.
recent guests?
Sure.
So,
well,
let's see.
Let me look at the
you don't remember
any of there.
Literally our first time
walking into this
studio, Gil,
yeah.
Literally our first time
walking in the studio.
Yeah.
Bill Macy's here
waiting for us.
Wow, no.
Bill Macy.
And you call him Bill.
Sissley Strong,
Mary Steenbergin,
Adam Scott,
uh,
Riz Ahmed was just here.
Wow.
Nick Kroll.
Um,
never heard of them.
Chuck Strong.
Do you say,
Chechch.
Chet Strong in here
We got the men in black
We got these
Smosh kids
Do I don't know
But they seem to have a following
Sir Sherman S&L
So
It's been a pretty
It's been kind of a murder
It's been a crazy run
Solid
Yeah
It's been awesome
Financially it's been insane
And aside
Are you guys enjoying yourself
Aside from the money stuff
Some of the episodes
Have been pretty fun
Yeah some of them
Some of them have been of a good time.
Yeah.
And even when it doesn't go well, I think that it's always nice to reflect on later and say, okay, here's what I learn from that.
Here's what I'm going to do differently next time.
Right.
And even employing it to a certain extent with you today, Gil, where he said, hey, it's so great to have you back on the show.
And I said, hang on a beat.
Because I think we have sometimes taken the air out of the balloon for people too quickly.
Right, right.
And they haven't necessarily felt like they had to perform.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I feel the pressure now.
I think he knows that.
I do you know.
Like, yeah.
Some shows are just hanging out.
No, I feel.
No, I feel it.
And that's fine.
I don't know what your show is.
I love to hear about it.
I'm excited to hear about it.
I don't know if it's more of a hangout show.
There's a lot of those.
And then there are shows where you actually have to.
show up and
fucking deliver, you know?
Yeah.
But there's room for all kinds of shows.
Nick was good on the show.
Nick was really good on the show. Yeah, he's good.
Yeah.
You're working with him?
I'm working with him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He stepped up.
He was doing some voices.
Oh, he was?
Yeah.
Oh, I don't do voices.
So that's already a strike against me.
That's okay.
There's like so many different kinds of shows.
I can do my dog.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like even within this show,
there's different kinds of shows.
He did a, yeah, he did one.
Bill did a little voice.
Yeah.
Michael didn't really do one.
Chech didn't do one.
Riz.
Sarah didn't do one.
Riz didn't do one.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
But there's so many different, like,
they did different stuff.
No, I don't feel,
I'm not saying they did nothing.
No.
I hope I do something.
Sarah did nothing.
Sarah did functionally did nothing.
Being fair to the guests that we've had,
uh-huh.
It's a tough show to do.
You don't always know how to find your way in.
Sarah did not.
Right.
She never really got her feet under her.
You can't fail on this show.
There was no access point seemingly through which she was able to understand or participate in the show.
At all.
In my opinion, no.
It would have probably been the same show had she not arrived at the studio at all.
Tried nothing.
But if she had, there was sort of an agreed upon feeling good.
It would have been better because we would have been able to.
the two of us would have had an interplay
where we were checking in constantly of like now
if you were here with a potato, it would have been the same.
A potato would be amazing.
A potato would be amazing.
What we can do with just a like a potato.
Right.
Like, McGiver style of comedy.
Like we can have a field put it together.
Oh, yeah.
Mr. Spud or whatever.
We come up with a funny name and then like maybe we're.
I mean, it's already if Mr. Spud.
I mean.
Mr. Spud, that was the first thought.
Sometimes that is the best thought
But you have a show
I do
Let's get let's get into that
I want to hear about your show
I talk about my show literally all the time
No we talk about our show to start
And now it's your turn to talk about your show
You have a show
The show is
If you can make it funny
You say it
The show is called Kevin
It's on Amazon Prime
It's about a
rescue shelter
and I play the
manager of the rescue
shelter so it's
cats and dogs are in I think you had Joe
Wayne. That's not even what I thought we were talking about.
Oh. This is what I thought you were talking about
I thought you mentioned Kevin before. Is that real?
Oh Kevin's our name of our producer.
We were to we said Kevin to be the name of our producer.
Oh, I thought you wanted to talk about
Kevin. No, we were not
we do need to talk about Kevin
if if you have
have a show named Kevin, then we need to talk about it.
If you don't, if you don't, Gil?
Yeah.
Then now we need to talk about that.
Well, I have a, I do have a podcast that has just premiered, but I thought he mentioned
Kevin.
Is it called Kevin?
Is it on Amazon Prime?
It is not.
Is it have cats and dogs in it?
No.
Are you the manager of a shelter in the show that you have?
No.
Okay.
So then we do need to talk about that.
We need to back up and talk about that.
Okay.
Okay.
I've already, I feel like I'm already, I feel like I'm already.
making mistakes. I feel like you said, you said
I think you had Joe Wangered on. I just read you
the list of guests we'd had on. Yeah.
Was Joe Wenger on that list?
I didn't hear it on that list, but I feel like I remember
seeing. Is that
is that not true?
Not only is it not true. Now I don't know.
There's not a single one of those
names could be confused
with Joe Wenger. So now we need to
talk about that.
If he came on, he did even less than
Sarah Sherman because I didn't see him.
Yeah.
And that's hard to do.
But none of them came in here and fibbed.
I, I, I, what I'm, what I'm picking up from you.
Yeah.
Is actually two fibs right in a row.
I don't think the Kevin show is real.
Okay.
I don't think you have that show.
Unfortunately.
It's, it is a show.
And I know that the Joe Wengert episode of our show is not real.
Okay.
Well, I thought
I thought...
Unless you're talking about 2014 or something.
No, I was pretty sure I saw Joe Wang.
But if that's maybe...
I guess you've confused us with another podcast,
which is hard to do.
One of these hangout shows.
I just don't believe that happened.
Oh, okay.
I don't believe that happened.
Well, there is a show called Kevin,
but I don't want to...
We don't have to talk about it at all.
I do want to talk about your podcast provided...
I'd like to stop just before we talk about that.
I'd like to talk a little bit about...
trust okay because literally is exactly what we don't have to do we don't have to do
because we need that is something that once it is broken gill it's not like a
lamp that you just glue back together is it it's not like a little
harder to reassemble trust once it has been broken through the trail so then
you have to earn it as he's actually generously
trying to launch you into the podcast saying,
I don't think this Kevin show is real.
I know the Joe Wenger episode is real.
You're going, well, Kevin is real.
And it's like, for what?
Like, what are you going to fucking win, man?
No, I sound defensive.
What are you going to win?
I sound offensive.
You've already gotten the listeners excited about a project, right?
You got them excited about Kevin.
Hell, you got me excited about it.
Jesus Christ, man.
The way you're talking about the kitties of puppies?
That's on TV?
It's on prime.
It's on prime.
Like, I really sold it, didn't I?
Yeah.
I know if it made it all the way onto the platform, it's been vetted.
Okay.
By a fucking crackerjack.
Yeah, shitload of piece.
Oh, my.
Yes.
Well, you know what?
The number of layers that has to go through to make it to my screen?
I mean, I'm willing to let go and say Kevin is fake.
Oh.
I'm willing to like let go of that and say that's not a real show on Amazon Prime.
That's interesting.
It's not just that it's not called Kevin.
It doesn't have.
It doesn't exist.
Kids and puppies in it.
I don't.
You're not in it.
I'm not an affiliate.
I'm not a show.
It's not a show.
It's not a show.
You heard us talk about Kevin the producer before.
And it gave you an idea for a show.
It gave me an idea to try to boast here in this moment.
It could be a show.
Really?
I mean, if it's not real.
As you were pitching it, I thought like, well, this is a show.
Are you asking to take it out with me?
It must be a show.
It has to be because we need to talk about it.
We got to talk about Kevin.
We need to talk about Kevin.
We need to talk about Kevin.
We need to talk about Kevin.
Kevin as a project for us.
But now, I mean, I'm worried because I want to hear about the podcast.
I'm worried you.
You don't feel like the podcast is enough.
And I wonder if it was us talking about, yes, we're doing well here.
I think that made you a little self-conscious of.
Now I'm going to talk about my podcast, my pissant podcast when these guys are doing
amazing and financially doing really well.
I mean, we certainly don't have the guests that you guys just have.
And so...
And I'm not going to go through the list again.
That I would make other podcasts feel small
when I really was just trying to make them feel inspired.
Right.
Because you will kill.
You will have those guests.
You will have a run.
I mean, you guys, though, have been doing it for like 40, 50 years, right?
Now that you've done this.
How long have you guys been doing this podcast?
Doing this.
Long time, right?
Until you got to this point?
You know, the way that I kind of look at it
is like
I only ever have today.
When I'm doing this episode,
there's only this episode.
It doesn't matter where I've been,
what I've done before.
You don't see all the foul shots.
Because from the time the fucking whistle blows
to start the podcast
to the time that the foghorn or...
It seems convenient.
I mean, you're not looking at all the stuff
the podcast was before.
No, you got to like, it's work
to take every single
episode that you do and just let it drift out.
Right.
Right.
See, and that's been our mindset for 49 years.
Jesus.
So it's like almost as long as I've been doing the show a little longer than that.
Right.
That's been our mindset for 49 years.
At first we were hanging on to stuff, but then we have, I've interested, if we want to really have staying power in this game.
For 14 years we were, we were kind of hanging on this stuff.
What we gotta say is and what we've been saying is how long have you been doing the podcast?
one episode
how only I've been doing it
11 minutes
that's as long as I've been doing it
because every episode
I have to feel like
I live and die on this episode
you guys get great for 11 minutes
that's incredible
yeah
the podcast
you've got one
I've got one
that's interesting
I wonder where he got that idea
I don't admit
it's a little bit similar
to what we do
and sometimes
I feel like we say that on a lot of episodes.
We say like, where'd you get that idea?
Yeah.
But I am not allowed to remember what we've done on other shows.
Right.
So if you hear us doing something again,
where people come in and have a podcast and we say,
where they get that idea, probably from us.
I don't know that we did that already.
They've done that joke.
I go, news to me.
Yeah.
It sounds like a funny show.
Tell me more about it.
Well, yes.
Well.
Yeah, the joke itself doesn't work in a way.
Because when I say, Wonderware,
got that idea. What am I even
even referred to? Because I've never got a podcast.
You've never got a podcast. I don't know. I don't know about it. Yeah.
You only know about this one.
I was just trying to attack me on doing the same joke. I don't understand. Did I get the
idea from you or have you not had a podcast? Well, you know, that's part of the absurdity.
Yeah. We've had this episode. So then I'm yours was before. Yeah. Yours is older because
you've done a few others. I don't understand. I'm very confused. Okay. Well, I guess I got it
before I, maybe I
travel through time somehow.
And obviously even this episode would take time to develop.
Like we'd have to like book it and stuff like that.
So maybe in the time between when we decide to book you for this episode,
you went and got your own.
That's interesting.
That's interesting.
Oh, you like that.
It does make sense.
Yeah.
It does make sense.
Okay.
So it actually works.
Yeah, no, it works.
I stole it.
I did steal it from you.
Okay.
I did steal it from you.
did you decide to steal it?
Well, I just...
And what is it?
And what is it?
I just saw it.
It was so successful.
Nice episode.
Yes, the show, the podcast is called Good Science.
I host it with Anthony Atamanick.
When does it air?
It airs on Tuesdays.
It comes out every Tuesday.
When does yours come out?
We don't know.
You don't.
We're not allowed to.
Yeah, we just have this one, so we don't know when it's coming out.
Yeah.
No idea when this one's coming out?
Yeah, and by the time it does, we won't know about it anymore.
It's almost like 50 first dates to podcast.
I'm not hating the sound of Tuesday though as an episode date to drop.
Tuesday makes sense.
Yeah.
It's not Monday, you know?
Right.
But it's still like, it's still like getting a impact on the week.
It's the beginning of the week.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not the first thing in the week because you don't want that.
Monday is a little bit thirsty, ain't it?
Yeah, it's a little Garfield.
It's you and Tony.
No.
No, it's not?
No, I mean, Garfield would not want to release his podcast on a Monday.
He's barely surviving on Monday.
No, yeah, that's what I mean.
That's what I mean.
But if it's coming out for him on Tuesday, then he might have to record it on Monday.
When you're not going to get the best product out of him, if that's the case.
If it's releasing on Monday, if nothing else, you know that he wasn't recorded on Monday.
That could be a real.
As far as Garfield's concerned.
When is Garfield recording you think?
So I guess your joke of it's a little Garfield could work.
Thank you.
That Monday would be a decent release date for him.
It's the only way to ensure that it's not recorded on Monday.
I like that you keep coming around.
I don't know.
You know, I'm either winning or learning.
I'm either winning or learning.
And what are you guys up to?
What, the podcast?
Yeah.
Tony plays RFK Jr.
And I play an unfiltered comedian named Kyle Quim.
And we talk about, it's like as if the podcast was released from the desk of the health secretary.
So it's like bad or misinformation, disinformation, health stuff.
That's funny.
That's so crazy.
I thought you said.
This is so stupid.
I honestly thought you just said that it was a show where you're playing, or Anthony is playing RFK Jr.
Yes, that's correct.
And that it's like bad stuff from the health secretary and misinformation.
Yes.
From him.
Yes.
But what is it?
What do you mean?
What's it called?
But what is the show really?
No, that is the show.
That is the show.
That is the show.
Yes.
Why?
Is that not good?
Do you guys have a shit?
Did you know this?
So, no, I mean, as I've said, oh, I didn't even know we were recording today.
But I don't like how quiet you're getting.
It's scaring me.
Give us a second.
Yeah.
So, I didn't know that.
Um, we cannot have this in here.
Yeah.
We cannot be having any of the, like, I, I just laid out to you what we're building here.
Right.
Like the guests that we've had on, like the kind of people that we have in this studio.
Mm-hmm.
You are talking about someone with a direct line to the president of the United States.
Do you realize that?
I mean, yes.
And talking about him doing...
In a making fun of life?
Bad misinformation.
In a making fun of style?
Are you guys...
Do you guys agree with what he says?
First of all, I don't know who has said what.
I don't know who said anything.
I've only been alive for 17 minutes, basically.
I didn't exist before this timer started.
Where do you go when the podcast ends?
Oh, I'm not the guy to ask.
I am not the person to answer that question.
So.
Don't know what that is either.
Sean and I being dead out there.
side of the confines of this episode keeps us alive.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
I think so.
If we go out into the world, taking in no information, putting out no information, just moving through it as if we didn't exist, I don't know.
And I don't want to.
Yeah.
Okay.
And so when you bring in here into this space where we are building something, I told you Bill Macy was, we did an episode with him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And.
Congrats, by the way, again.
I mean, thank you, but like, I'm worried about that now.
I'm worried about that episode getting pulled.
That's scary to me because I go, oh, great.
So now the Bill Macy episode has been shadow banned on all platforms.
You know what I mean?
And that was going to come out on a Tuesday.
Call. One call. And this is gone. All this is gone.
You think. And we are doing. I'm sorry. You think Robert.
Finally. Finally. We have something going here.
You think RFK would care about what's going on here.
About his, like his.
About an episode with Bill Macy.
About his entire life's work being like throwing the fucking garbage.
And making fun of him. Making fun of him.
To, you know, guys.
who stole our idea for a show
and then made it just to make a fun of a show.
How do you know that if you're not,
if you just were born?
I'm occupying his mental space.
Okay.
You know,
I'm not me.
I'm dropping into RFK for a minute,
same way you do on the show,
because I'm not making fun of him.
I'm actually trying to understand him
and saying, well, what would he be thinking?
Probably that's not very nice.
And so what you basically have said to me today, Gil,
if I could paraphrase,
is you said,
Nice rocket ship.
Mind if I get on with a goddamn fucking stick of dynamite and just explode the entire thing, right?
Is you about to leave the atmosphere?
Literally the day of the IPO.
You guys are going public.
Yes, the plan was always to go public today.
To be the second trillion dollar IPO.
It was Gil's here.
Let's let him talk about his show.
It won't be anything damaging, I'm sure.
Then we'll announce the IPO and he'll be here for the popping of champagne.
How did you think this?
This, probably around minute nine.
Oh, okay.
So you did think of it during this podcast.
Yes, but that was always the plan.
That was always the plan.
Well, I apologize.
I'm not trying to ruin anything.
It's not us.
You own apology too.
Mm-mm.
It's.
To RFK.
It's him so he is not mad at us, but instead happy with us.
Okay.
Because, like I said, he has a direct line to the president.
He can call and say something actually nice about what we're doing.
I have a feeling you also.
I have a feeling you also an apology to both Colin Quinn and Kyle Kinane.
Okay.
Because I feel like when you tell me about this comedian that you're playing, that you go,
well, this is a completely fictional character.
There's no victims here.
It's not based on them.
I know.
But, Gil, you're telling me that you just came up with these unfiltered comedians with this fake name and that you're not borrowing at all.
I didn't say I wasn't borrowing at all, but those two definitely not.
Who is it then?
No.
Is it one person?
It's an amalgamation of sweeties.
Okay.
Okay.
Maybe two, Max?
Maybe not those two.
It's not them.
It's not them.
And it's definitely not you guys, you know.
Okay, okay.
But if you want, as a third fib, I can say that that podcast doesn't exist.
So maybe Bobby won't be upset.
Oh, yeah, that's lucky for us.
That's lucky for us.
If that's what you want me to do, you want me to go down.
There's one small issue with it, and it's an issue of trust.
Yeah.
Which, as you may be aware, yeah.
Once that's broken, Gil.
It's not a lamp, you know.
It's definitely not a lamp.
It's not a lamp.
Well, how do I repair this?
How do I get on, I want to make, I don't want to ruin your street.
Well, it's not with more words.
You know what I mean?
No, I feel like I can't.
I'm trying to dig out, but I feel like I'm, you know.
I see a path here.
Okay.
And it goes right through and right over Tony.
Mm-hmm.
What would you like me to what does that mean getting rid of him?
I think you need to say the truth about Tony what he's about.
I think we need to effectively kill Tony.
I do think we need to kill Tony.
His dominion over you.
What he.
I don't like that for you.
What he subjects you to?
You're a nice kid, you're a creative dynamic.
You feel like I need to throw him under the bus.
Is that what you're asking you to do?
Gil, this isn't you.
This being mean to the president's friend.
That's not you.
I know you a long time, yeah.
No, you're right.
I try to be as sweet as possible.
Jesus Christ, you stayed on my couch.
You brought over state of play on DVD.
Do you remember that?
You know what I mean?
You were like, let's watch state of play.
That's right.
You're two beautiful cats.
I mean, that was...
They're dead.
Okay, well, that's me digging a hole again.
I apologize for bringing that up.
Of course, I'm not aware of that during this recording.
To me, it's...
Sorry.
It's just another example of something that you loved at one point.
Well, I'm...
Okay.
You can kill.
Mm-hmm.
Kill your darlings.
I will do that for you if you guys want.
Tony, can I talk to camera?
Hmm.
Yeah, maybe talk to
So if it's helpful
Sure
Talk to talk to this gentleman here
Okay
Do you know who Tony Atamanick is?
Not before this episode
Okay
Not before this episode
Okay
So this is someone who can really like
Emboddy
He's like me
Yeah
Yeah just born
Yeah before this episode
I didn't know anything about any of these people
So weird how you knew
my name when I came in here.
Someone told us. Oh, okay.
Yeah, someone told us right before you want that.
All right, here I go. Tony,
I don't think what you're doing is right.
Oh, sorry.
Oh.
No. This is not
the device that I'm setting.
Oh, you are speaking
to our audience.
Okay. The proxy's
sitting right here. Okay.
And telling
the truth about
Tony. And his
dominion over you.
Okay.
Everyone out there,
Tony has control over me.
Yeah.
He forces me to do things I don't want to do.
Smell different stuff.
Smell different things.
Yeah.
Taste different things.
Touch different things.
He's done it for a while now.
It's sort of a grooming thing.
Kissing things.
Kissing things.
Touching, kissing.
Tasting.
Tasting. Licking.
And I don't want to do it anymore.
and he forces me to do it
so that he can criticize the establishment.
Not a lot to wear shoes around.
I'm not allowed to wear shoes around the house.
I have to go barefoot because he likes to see my feet.
He makes me cook for him with my crackout.
He makes me...
I didn't know that part.
Why would you?
This is the first time you've been alive.
But some stuff you could pick up on.
Yeah, you could sense...
You didn't know that.
that part.
Yeah, well, he likes to see a little, he likes to see the start of something.
You know what I mean?
So just a little bit.
Just a little bit, not the whole thing.
Okay, I don't sound that bad.
Yeah.
And then I feel like I don't want to say these things about Bobby.
What does he like to eat?
Was he like, you're in there cooking for him?
Yeah, bacon.
Perugis and bacon.
He likes Ukrainian, and he likes deli.
And he likes a diner.
And he likes a diner.
What's that?
Even a stop clock's right twice a day.
I mean, I'm not going to fault the guy's dietary.
No, I mean, bacon and bacon sounds like a pretty, that's a nice meal.
Yeah.
And the Ukrainian thing is like, what's that about?
Like, it's a comment on something.
Like, what's the deal there?
I think he just likes parogis.
Oh, maybe you think it's a comment about.
No, it might be political.
It might be political.
I mean, knowing this guy.
Yeah.
Everything seems to be political with this guy.
Can I ask, are you guys aware of what's happening over there?
Because I know you were just, you just.
Well, it is.
around the time in the podcast where I do
have a hard reset
around minute 28 I forget what the first
14 minutes of the podcast were
I do maintain some knowledge
from the middle chunk whatever
whatever you feel is right or
it just you know it's
I don't go through a selection process
just like things get filtered out something stay
something's stay something's go I wish I could do this I mean I wish I
could have this selective memory I'm telling you
you don't
It is a curse, Gil.
Does it make for a good podcast?
The numbers don't lie.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
But then when you do one that's really special, when you get that episode,
oh, please, can I just have this one?
Please, can I save this one?
It's worth it.
No.
Does it ever?
Those are the ones that you really have to.
Can I ask what you're giving up?
Push under the surface of the water.
What are you giving up?
When is it bad?
when does it hurt you?
Well, Hayes just explained it.
I did that, yeah, that was sort of the last idea that I was laying out there, like, when you have a really special episode, it's kind of an answer to the question, like, what are you giving up, right?
You're giving up, like, a memory that's, like, positive for you.
You were saying, you interrupted him and said that's when it's worth it, but what he was saying was like, that's actually the hardest part of it.
The hardest part. Those are the ones that you really have to live.
Oh, I guess it's worth it.
No, I was confused. I was listening.
But how? I guess I'm wondering.
I guess I thought you were talking about.
It was just saying it's a good thing that you have to separate yourself from.
And you thought that was good?
No, I was confused.
I thought you were talking about that it's all worth, like what you're giving up is like that you're.
I think we have to put this on Tony as well somehow.
That you've been part of just like a social experiment where like everything is inverted.
He has
He has somehow warped and twisted your mind
so that you are unable to take in information in a normal way.
I don't know what's happening.
I feel like I'm babbling and lying.
Which is a challenge for us because obviously we often work with guests.
We told you how good Nick did on the show.
We work with a lot of people who they do know what's happening.
I could try doing a voice like Nick.
I'm worried that the voice would be offensive to someone very powerful
based on the history
of the Bobby thing, yeah.
Yeah, so.
And it will like,
you'll figure out who the comedian is
that you have it out for for some reason.
Mm-hmm.
In this business where, like,
you know, it's like the business is
not doing amazing right now.
Yeah.
Like, I don't think an attitude
of...
Do you think I'm piling on?
I don't think it's productive.
The industry is in a state of flux.
It feels like you're going to scream.
You make contraction.
And I'm not necessarily,
necessarily someone who's going to
kick the town while it's down.
A circular firing squad.
Let's attack it.
It seems like a good idea to you,
a circular firing squad,
but it's actually a great way to get your fucking head blown on.
Yeah, no.
Because they all have, it's a squad.
Like, they also have guns.
Are you warning, are you telling me to be careful?
I'm literally describing a circular firing squad
where everyone is standing in a circle
and they're firing into the circle
sounds kind of fun for just you.
Of course it sounds fun when you first started,
but it's incredibly dangerous.
Is there another way to explain it to him?
David Tell has a gun too, you know what I mean?
You're obviously like that's the person that you're trying to like.
No, it's not.
It's definitely not David Tell.
Love Dave.
So funny.
Okay.
Well, now it's narrowed down.
like such a small
And now whenever we find out who it is, it's like
I mean, I feel like now I definitely know who it is.
It's not just maybe the content you're
He's saying they're not funny.
Yes.
Like he's going and they're not funny.
I mean, that's only three.
There's plenty of more comedians out there.
But I mean, the industry is like,
I wouldn't say there's, we're in a plenty
situation.
I mean, all the people you also name her like,
I mean, name someone who's like
under, you know, I don't know.
Can you name anyone?
It was like
Okay, so now these guys are washed up.
No, no.
Now I'm going to say the Colwynne,
these guys are comedy legend.
They are.
Our old washed up hats.
You know, when you see an old soldier,
I never said that.
He's old for a reason.
He's experienced.
I just.
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Who do you guys like to listen to?
Me personally?
I don't know.
Nice thing about forgetting every episode of your podcast.
As soon as it's over, is you can listen to it just as a fan.
I'm a huge fan of this show.
And I can't wait to hear this episode.
Yeah, because this is going to be a really good one.
Are you able to experience the episode outside?
Do you know what's happening on the outside of this podcast?
Do you have any memories of it at all?
Trips and drabs.
Trips and drabs.
Like?
Oray of light.
A flower petal.
Just see like images will flash.
Hot syrup on a fresh everything bagel.
Whoa, that's weird.
Hot syrup on an everything bagel.
Fresh everything bagel.
Yeah, I did make...
Why would you put syrup on...
Why do you think your Audi is putting syrup on an everything bagel?
And for the listeners who just are hearing this, I'm pointing at Gil like,
what the fuck is this guy talking about?
You know, he doesn't have an answer.
and Hayes is looking back at me
and he's going,
your guess is as good as mine,
ombre.
So.
So, I mean,
Sean writes for severance.
I don't know if you know this about.
I did.
Sean.
I did.
But.
I was trying to relate.
The mindset.
Yeah.
Of not knowing what's happening in
or outside the room that you're in
also applies to severance.
Right.
So he doesn't know about that.
right now. Oh, okay. So when you say, what do you say outy? That's why he does that little gesture
at you saying, he's like, what's this guy on and can I have some? You know? Right. I'm not on
anything. I'm just saying things that are happening. He doesn't know about me. I apologize. Because he's not
in that. He's not in that room right now. Where do you think I came from? What do you mean?
I hate to answer a question with a question.
What's outside that door?
This one?
Another door.
Another door?
Yeah, you'll see it.
Check it out.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Well, that's just for sound.
That's not like,
that's not like some Alice in Wonderland freaky shit that you're doing.
That's just,
you know what I mean?
That's just for sound.
That's for sound, you think?
Yeah.
Two doors?
Yeah, two doors.
Yeah, two doors.
Well, we're in a recording.
booth studio. They all have two doors?
A lot of them do.
Okay. I don't know.
You don't know. You don't know everything about it. I don't remember
episodes. Don't you? I mean, we honestly
learned something new every single episode. I mean, you learn everything.
Every episode. We try to.
Yeah. We try to.
It depends. It depends on whether the guest
is acting in good faith.
Because it's very difficult
to learn when you are being given
a bunch of misinformation.
Yeah, you don't trust me. As you've accused RFCK
of delivering. I guess I guess
I've been fibbing too.
And yet, there's a, the stench of hypocrisy fills the room.
And so the case you're making is that your creative collaborators,
like so-called great crime, is that he likes you to occasionally make pierogies and bacon.
Sounds pretty good.
Not like a, not an elaborate meal for him.
It's not that demanding.
Are they frozen or are you making the dough and all that from that?
And they're frozen.
Everything's frozen.
That's a...
I mean...
It's one pan.
It's not a lot, I guess.
But he does other...
I said the crack thing.
Showing a little bit of crack.
A little bit of crack.
You can't go into an office and say,
show me a little bit of crack.
Doesn't sound like you're in an office.
Sounds like you're at his house.
Oh, my ride's here.
How was he negotiating, like, more or less,
like, having you like pull it up and pull it down a little bit?
He calls it a peak.
Okay.
So he wants to see a piece.
peak. Okay. And so is he pulling it down or you then know what that means? I know what it means at this
point. Yeah. I think you might actually be misunderstanding. Why? Where are you getting that I misunderstood?
What am I misunderstanding? I mean, it seems like you have just assumed that that means that he wants to see a little more of your
butt crack. Well, I feel like you can't. I don't think I would assume that when someone's giving a peak. If I heard that, I would like reach back and like,
And honestly, if I had said to Hayes, give me a peek, and he turned around and showed me some of his butt crack, I would be like, okay, never mind.
So he would never find out what I meant?
Well, at that point, I would be like, I'm not going to engage.
What could it possibly mean to say, show me a peek?
Well, I need more context.
A present.
Oh, I need more context.
A present?
The present I give to him after his show.
Well, he's not saying, don't do it.
Let me peek.
Let me feel how heavy the box is, eh?
Yeah.
And then he's showing me to, you know, part of his butt.
You think I'm the one instigating showing crack?
The way you've described it, you are.
I mean, you're literally the one who physically lowers your...
Wait, do you not give him a present after you do an episode?
No, I mean, the crack is the present.
Well, no wonder he's being so destructive on the show.
He's acting out.
I guess so.
The guy is screaming for some kind of show of love from you.
When do you give him a present?
That is the present.
Is you showing a little bit of your butt crack is the present?
Oh my God.
Mr.
Ego Mania.
Oh, my God.
See, my butt crack is a good enough present.
He shouldn't expect anything else.
And just a tiny bit of a?
I happen to think my crack is pretty.
Oh, your poor wife.
That's the present?
These man cheeks back.
Back there?
Oh, no.
All right, you know what?
No.
I am willing to concede that it's not a great present, and I apologize.
Maybe it is me giving off bad vibes to Tony.
Have I explained trust yet in this episode?
Apparently not.
Do you remember it or not?
I think that we're going to need to go over this.
Did you have another reset?
Guilt.
Trust once broken.
It's not a land, right?
It's not a lamp.
No.
Can't just glue it back together.
You know, screw a new light bulb into it.
It's going to take a lot more work.
Which part of the lamp are you imagining is broken?
The light bulb and the other part that you could glue it together?
It's a new light bulb.
Yeah, so the base, the light bulb broke.
But not the base.
But that we're not.
The base is intact.
We're not putting the light bulb back together.
The base is intact.
Okay.
And it's been broken before, so it breaks on kind of the same lines every time.
Okay.
Yeah.
Sorry to interrupt.
Nobody's fault.
You know what I mean?
There's no need to play the blame game here.
Lamps break sometimes.
Yeah.
Trust is a little different.
It's a little different than the lamp.
How do you repair?
It doesn't always break in the same place, and there's no light bulb in it.
Sure.
Mm-hmm.
Although a light bulb can represent an idea sometimes.
It can, yeah.
And trust is an idea.
I wonder I got that idea.
Well, the podcast was called Good Signs.
Yeah. Can I ask you a question, by the way? Yeah, anything. I'm an open book.
What does a lamp look like? You talk to me? Yeah. So he did say that he did ask if he
could ask you a question before right before he said the question. Did you hear it? I feel like
you haven't had a reset. Yeah. And you did agree to answer the question. So here's, let me make
this clear. The question he just asked was a lamp look like? That was the question.
that he was asking you
if he could ask.
No, no, I want that.
And him asking it.
So when you said yes,
I believe I said I'm an open book.
So that to me
did sound like a yes,
but you, it sounds like
we're not responding
to him asking
if he could ask you a question.
I don't even know if you were talking about.
Listen to him.
He never actually agreed to respond.
He, he,
I'm just mentioning that I'm an open book.
He was sharing.
You're not interesting.
You were sharing something with you.
Can I, all right.
Seems relevant.
We're on a podcast.
Sean,
what does a lamp look like?
May also help to ask what he thinks an open book looks like.
What is an open book look like?
Because it doesn't, to him, necessarily mean something that provides information freely.
Mm-hmm.
Um, well, a lamp could look like just about anything, couldn't it?
Sure.
be specific to
I mean I guess
Gil what does a lamp
look like?
You're just
throwing it back at me
No
Fares fair
What's good for the goose
Is good for the gander
I mean here I am
I said it could look like anything
I'm starting to
I'm honestly on Tony's side at this point
You are
That like this is your podcasting style
As you just like lay down a question
And like
And that's it
I feel like that's what
That's what podcasting is.
It's questions and answers.
What does a...
Can you tell me what a lamp looks like?
A woman's leg.
Yeah.
Okay, there are lamps that look like a woman's leg
in some like 80s movies.
Like the stockings.
So that's...
Okay.
A heavy breast.
I've never seen that before.
A heavy breast?
What is that even?
mean what is a heavy breast what I mean well I'm what are they go for
I'm feeling even more sorry for your wife that how heavy are you talking
I'm at the butcher shop I'm going for four people I guess
four people have wait what cut hmm what cut I'm getting chicken breast
for four people so like okay
Okay, fine.
I guess, sure.
That's not allowed?
No, it's allowed.
You tell me there's something bad in it because you're a RFK.
Do we think Kyle could live on his own on a show somewhere?
Is there a Kyle vehicle?
Maybe, possibly.
That may be only one seat.
Well, on the podcast, part of the lore is that Kyle has a podcast.
his own podcast called shitheads.
Did we just do that podcast and make your podcast be the lore?
And so now he's on.
You think I just came up with that?
Make that the real podcast.
Oh.
That's the podcast.
Please,
I'm confused.
Please, please, please.
I don't think this is complicated.
Explain it to me.
You said that you have a real podcast and then one that's just Kyle that's lore.
I'm saying let's make the just Kyle podcast, the real podcast.
And oh, so no Bobby.
No Bobby.
That's what you're saying.
That becomes lore.
Doesn't that, that could be his lore.
Sure.
Just to say it, I think a lamp could also look like buttocks or a penis.
So just any, I don't know.
First of all, it could look like anything.
Sure, you're right, technically.
But I wanted to know what like a standard lamp is.
And you're just.
That's his thing.
No, you're just like naming body parts now.
To show off.
Then.
To show that.
Now the market.
Well, that's where I got the idea.
Yes, now supply goes up, so demand goes down.
You know what I mean?
If every lamp looks like a buttox, then like, what do you have to offer?
I guess nothing.
You know, that's your...
I guess nothing.
No, I...
You give your present people like, oh, thanks.
Like, they've already seen it.
They have that already.
Yeah, they have that already.
Well, I guess I could talk to Tony and tell him, hey, it's not going to work out.
Not my business, what you tell him.
I'm not going to be a part of that conversation.
I am going to be a part of participating financially in the Kyle show,
which I think could actually be a nice little piece of business podcast-wise.
What are you willing to?
What are we talking about here?
How much money?
I'm willing to let you walk out of here with both your legs.
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