Hollywood Handbook - Introducing: Scott Hasn’t Seen

Episode Date: October 15, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 this is a head gum podcast so recently i'm doing and sean new cbb comedy bang bang world the show scott hasn't seen i didn't know i i did not know that's what i was doing at the time me neither i thought i was doing something completely different but pretty soon i realized i'm doing scott hasn't seen on comedy bang bang world and as i raised this issue i'm like am i doing this like am i doing scott hasn't seen they're like yes okay you're doing this uh can we please come to one agreement which is that you do not release this episode for free and which i thought was completely fair on our part because i was happy to do the episode and as everybody knows for all
Starting point is 00:00:54 of us but especially for scott it's not about anybody here in this shit what he loves and his passion is just making the pod yeah it's the love of the fucking game dog and so that to me like he's asking for that he's saying please don't release this but he like to me he's saying free me free me from this prison of i have to make money with my new show. Release this episode for free. And that I am doing this now. I am releasing it. So I feel like we got our wires crossed somewhere along the line. So what was the conversation that happened? They said, don't release this.
Starting point is 00:01:39 They said, don't release this. Yes. What did you hear? You heard me saying that? I thought it was you they revealed to you you're doing scott hasn't seen yes this is how i remember it and this is like this is like rashy man rashy man this is like rashy man so what my memory is yeah i wish you could go into my mind and see my rashy man version is that you said wait a minute
Starting point is 00:02:05 am i on scott hasn't seen and they said yes you are and you said that's fine i'll do it just never release it please happy to do it love to do a pod with my guys i don't really want anyone to hear it is that what happened it's possible that is what happened like that it was like uh um like let's do it because it's so fun to do a podcast but i don't want to get caught up in all the like people are commenting and they're listening and it's this whole thing and that uh ultimately when they went back and listened to it themselves which you know they've been known i think especially when we do an episode scott goes and listens to it and just chuckles to himself in his study yeah that he was like this is actually too good we have to put it out i'm sorry it's possible promise yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:02:50 like i could listen to it to know exactly what was said but i am busy being not interested uh and so we are releasing this for free as you you know, as since they release it, I guess we're releasing it as like retaliation for free. And it's outside of comedy. Bang, bang world. Right. I have no idea at this point. Okay. I love I love this.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I know what this is. I do. Picture of our nation. It's like a snapshot of our nation how people two people you know fairly similar lifestyles backgrounds whatever can look at the same thing and see a completely different scenario i have no idea what the fuck you're talking about anymore with this i don't know what's going on i thought scott found this episode so funny. He, against our will, released the episode. And then I guess what you're saying is that as revenge, we're saying.
Starting point is 00:03:52 As revenge, we're releasing it outside the paywall. Yeah. And you can't make any money off it at least. I guess it's not like our nation. We're saying the same thing. So this is not our nation. This is just us. We are, you know, We are better than the nation
Starting point is 00:04:05 because we're actually finding common ground and working. I'm reaching across the aisle right now to shake my friend Hayes' hand and say, I agree with you. We're doing it to get back at him. Scott has a scene where Scott and super producer Sprague the Whisperer, a fake man,
Starting point is 00:04:20 played by Sean Diston, go through the filmography of Scott's blind spots, popular films. He somehow missed when they came out. And at the end of each episode, they asked the question to Scott, happy. He saw these movies before his eventual death.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And we talked about space jam too. And it's on comedy, bang, bang world, which you can subscribe to. I think it's actually broken, but at one point you could subscribe to it at cbbworld.com. But I'm going through it right now.
Starting point is 00:04:46 In the interim, you're supposed to subscribe to our Patreon, and then you get a link to go to the working version of the Comedy Bank. At least you know how when you jumpstart your car, you have to drive it around for a while? That's the equivalent of subscribing to our Patreon in the meantime, just to keep everything warm. Just to get your card working and stuff and those transactions going through so that the company doesn't have a red flag when you first do the Comedy Bang Bang World. Yeah, because it is completely broken and it was hacked. But CBB World includes all of the archives and current episodes of Comedy Bang Bang ad-free, plus new shows like Scott Hasn't Seen, the Andy Daly Podcast Project,
Starting point is 00:05:26 including Bananas for Bonanza, CBB Presents, and more. Subscribe for a year and get two months free at cbbworld.com. That's the least they can do with the site being completely broken like it is. And now, enjoy our episode of Scott Hasn't Seen. Strange as it may seem, there are things Scott has not seen. seen welcome to scott hasn't seen the podcast that explores the movie blind spots of deranged human being Scott Aukerman. I'm Sprague. The Whisperer. Sprague the Whisperer, but you got to come in there, Scott.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I thought you don't just want me to correct you. You also want me to say that. By the way, I'm Sprague. It's kind of the same thing. Yeah, go ahead. No, no, yeah go ahead go ahead no no i was gonna say i was gonna but you did i was gonna say it's the same timing as with uh with your other scott buddy you know it's like i'm scott and i'm so yeah so it's like i'm sprague
Starting point is 00:06:36 and i'm sprague no you you know you fucked it up it's fine we'll figure it out we'll figure it out we shall figure it out welcome scott how are you sc We shall figure it out. Welcome, Scott. How are you, Scott? I'm good, Sprague. Thank you so much for having me on my own show. Yeah, Scott. I mean, I'm sort of having you in a way. I sort of read you in. I sort of say my name first. You say your name. I fuck up saying my name. I'm Scott. Yeah, there you go. Finally. All right. We'll just edit that in. We'll edit that to the right spot and then we'll be good on Scott.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Professional podcasting. Ooh, here we are. So, Scott, here we are again. The last time we were here, Scott, we were talking about a movie you haven't seen famously. It was just Space Jam. Space Jam. Huge blind, not side, hashtag blindside survivor, but a huge blind spot. Huge hashtag blindside.
Starting point is 00:07:26 We shouldn't say blindside to but a huge blind spot huge hashtag blindside we shouldn't say blindside you with it you blindsided me with it and i was like hold on what just happened i looked over at you and i was like hold on i thought we were voting together we can't say blind spot anymore because of visually impaired i say we don't say blind spot anymore because of the people that look at the sun you know when they when they shouldn't turn those the clips days of the tv show blind spot i mean that's another one I haven't seen. You shouldn't be saying it. And what was that show about? A girl that was naked with tattoos? I have no idea. She was naked every single episode. I mean,
Starting point is 00:07:51 technically, most people in every TV show are naked at some point during the time frame that the movie and television show occurs. If you think about it, they're naked under their clothes as well. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, Scott. No, but I think we should say blindside. show occurs if you think about it they're naked under their clothes as well hell yeah hell yes scott no but i think we should say blindside so you blindsided me with this space jam thing and
Starting point is 00:08:11 i was sort of like all right how have you not seen space jam we watched it it was sort of like 90 minutes of just sort of a shoe commercial but then we realized there's this other movie scott yeah we realized it at the end of the episode. At the end of the episode, we looked up and we were like, hold on. Wait a minute. It was in the post credits. Yeah, someone was skywriting, actually. That's how I figured it out.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Scott turned around and he looked up to the sky and he said, wait a minute. It's a bird. It's a plane. No, it's Space Jam 2, a movie that came out over quarantine, Scott. By the way, Space Jam 2, a new legacy. Of course, Scott. We can't. What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:08:50 We can't say it's a new legacy. Of course. This is a new legacy. It's Space Jam 2. It's a mere 25 years after the original. Yeah. Now, Scott, this movie came out during the infamous choir, you know? It did. Well, I mean, it just came out during the infamous choir, you know? It did.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Well, I mean, it just came out like in July or something. I still kind of call that the infamous choir. The reason I say that is because it came out sort of on HBO Max, Scott. Yeah, that's where I saw it. That's where I saw it as well. No, no, sorry. We haven't seen it yet. That's where I would have seen it.
Starting point is 00:09:22 But Scott, you know, the thing I i was gonna sort of ask you is so i saw a lot of these sort of straight to to streamers over over quar scott did you have like any favorites that you watched because i i watched a few yeah i liked uh suicide squad or the suicide squad sorry the suicide squad don't forget you add the duh it's the opposite facebook right suicide squad is the opposite of facebook isn't it that's the poster it should say that hi we're the opposite Facebook. Right. Suicide Squad is the opposite of Facebook, isn't it? That's the poster. It should say that. Hi, we're the opposite of Facebook.
Starting point is 00:09:49 We're the opposite of Facebook. And no character pictures. No, nothing. No stars listed. Just like the Facebook logo, but in yellow or something. If you want to see the opposite of Facebook, walk into this theater.
Starting point is 00:10:01 That would be very tight. And I don't think it would have done well. Yeah, that one came out pretty recently, Scott, and I thought that was pretty good. Yeah, back in August, I guess. Yeah, I feel like that was one where I feel like I would have enjoyed seeing in theaters,
Starting point is 00:10:16 but I watched it at home. Yeah, I wanted to watch it in the backyard with some friends who I've been watching movies in the backyard and projecting them on a big screen. But it didn't work out. Pretty harsh now it's hard to find out that you're having these friendly get-togethers with your friends and old super producers don't invite it i bring you over to the cave all the time i know i know let me stream some you know i'll put up what do you want to see we'll watch anything do you know what see, Scott? I guess we could see some of these together, but yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:10:45 I think we should see Little Giants. What is Little Giants? That's an oxymoron. Now that's one of Rick Moranis' final movies, Scott. So does he only do movies where things are little? It's pretty, it's true. Now that I think about it.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Little Trouble Hours. I get the spay puffed marshmallow man. And Shrunk shrunk wow he didn't do shrunk i have not seen the shrunk trilogy by the way oh we gotta watch honey i shrunk the kids we have to start making a list because i haven't seen a bunch of these things wait you haven't seen honey i blew up the baby no no honey i blew that's the one that's different that's not what you want to see but the one to watch is honey i blew up the baby it's really funny okay we'll we'll put that on the list definitely but yeah i i i also saw wonder woman 2 i guess uh i feel like a lot of dc you watched yeah well i mean that's hbl max put them all up uh same day yeah yeah i mean yes i thought one woman was pretty good you know what
Starting point is 00:11:43 else i think i watched over quarantine i thought it was pretty good. You know what else I think I watched over quarantine? I thought it was pretty good. Like, here's the thing. It's bad, you know? Oh, yeah, it's awful. A lot of these movies are bad. But, you know, at the end of it, when I watched it, I was like, oh, this was the perfect one to come out.
Starting point is 00:11:59 That was the perfect one where I was like, if I would have went to theaters, I would have been furious. I would have been so pissed. Although I would have eaten something while I watched it. I would have had maybe like a hot dog or something or whatever but but i just realized i could make hot dogs at home like i went to a dodgers game on the on the two weeks the quarantine was lifted yeah where they were like everyone come on get the fuck out we're doing six games a day and it was so expensive and i was like hold on hold on, hold on. I can eat hot dogs at home. You mean I just boil some water, flop one of these dogs in there? Just one.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Just flop one in there? Watching my girlish figure. That's really funny. You know, my client, Sean Diston, worked on a show with Rory Scoville where one of the bits on the show was Rory Scoville, his character was so alone that he sat at home and made one hot dog on like a frying pan, you know? And he was like, that's just the way he cooked dinner for himself. I always thought that was a pretty pathetic thing. But now that I think about it, then he got to eat a hot dog at the end. And that actually sounds like a good majority of my life. Just like a single meal standing above a flame that sort of isn't flaming that right because you're not knowing exactly how to cook anything.
Starting point is 00:13:10 You're like, I don't know if I press the hot dog down on the thing. It may be cooks faster. Who knows? Um, when I, when I figured out you could microwave hot dogs, boy,
Starting point is 00:13:18 that was a game changer. That changes the game. And then sometimes they explode and you're like, I've got a freak hot dog from like a nuclear hole, like nuclear wasteland or something yeah and then you yeah and i don't know what i was gonna say and then well let me think about and then you eat it i think yeah i was gonna take you through every step of the process let me think about this of course what are the quarantine movies i saw i saw minari scott that was one oh yeah i ended up getting that one as a screen i guess yeah see that's the thing is there were a ton of like Oscar screeners that I saw through, you know, the DGA or whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Like what was that movie called? Like Famous Little Woman or something. Infamous Famous Little Woman. Oh, I have no, I don't know. Do you only watch Oxygen? Phenomenal Little Movie. No, it was like the one where the woman was like killing people and extraordinary woman. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Promising young woman. Promising. All of those can be one person. They're not. Really left a real big impression that I couldn't remember the title of the movie. There was something about not being able to go to theaters that really made a lot of these movies wash right off my back, Scott. Well, Minari was probably my favorite movie of the year, I think. Minari was great.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And I think it was one of those movies you can watch at home because it isn't like a giant blockbuster or anything. It's just a quiet little fun movie about grass, you know? Yeah. And there was Nomadland, although I think that only came out on Amazon, right? Yes, that might have just been Amazon. I can tell you everything that I saw during Quar. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Scott has a list. This is one of the things where I'm... Remember I always said yeah. Scott has a list. This is one of the things where I remember I said he deranged you and me. This is one of the things. Every single movie knows where he saw them all. It's crazy. The last movie I saw in the theater was Onward, Pixar's Onward. Oh, Onward. Yes, that was the one where the
Starting point is 00:14:58 pants was the dad or something. What? Isn't that the one where like... Okay, so I saw... So in quarantine, I saw The Way Back, Tiger Tail, Extraction, The Wrong Missy, The Lovebirds, The Trip to Greece, The King of Staten Island, Eurovision Song Contest,
Starting point is 00:15:16 Hamilton. Let me say something about Eurovision. That movie was so fun because I think people don't realize how fun Eurovision is. I hope it made people watch actual Eurovision because it's almost as crazy. Yeah, yeah. We had a good time watching it. That's one of those ones where, especially it was early in core too, and it was like, hey, we can survive this. Okay. If everything is Eurovision. Wait a minute, there's other countries. Yeah, that was a good reminder.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Oh, Palm Springs. That was a big one. Palm Springs was a good reminder oh palm springs that was a palm springs was a good one you know people loved palm springs big comedy movie there uh greyhound most wanted the go-go's an american pickle work it's project power i don't even remember what any of these are bill and ted face the music now bill and ted now that one slapped you know everyone loves some bill and ted slappers of course uhan, Kajillionaire. I watched Tenet at home, of course. Tenet, that was a weak one. The reason I asked, Scott, is because I think about movies and I think they're nurturers, Scott. You know, they're supposed to nurture you when you're feeling sick. And I have a movie, Scott, that anytime I'm feeling sick, I watch it.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And I remember watching it when I had strep throat as a child. And I remember watching this movie and being like, this is the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. And that movie is Ace Ventura, When Nature Calls. When Nature Calls. Probably the most problematic one where he goes to Africa and Tommy Lee Davidson is like...
Starting point is 00:16:40 Well, I would say that first one with the whole Sean Young subplot is pretty problematic as well. Wow, those movies, they're pretty done. We can't bring back... You know what I did watch over core was Ace Ventura Jr. Now, wait a minute. What is that, Scott? Okay, so the poster...
Starting point is 00:16:58 Now, that's a spring as it's seen. The poster leads you to believe that it is a little kid who dresses and acts like Ace Ventura. Yes, of course. Like Son of the Mask, of course. Of course. But I mean a little kid, not Jamie Kennedy. I mean a little kid. Like we're talking 10.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Wow. And I'm like, okay, I'm into that, whatever that is. I'm into that, whatever that is. Now, I felt a little snookered because it's about a regular kid who finds out he's Ace Ventura's son and then starts to investigate a missing pet at his grade school. So Ace Ventura doesn't show up? He doesn't show up? No, they talk about your dad always felt, you know, this kind of stuff. The famous Ace Ventura. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:46 So I felt pretty bad. And I remember I was texting Lauren Lapkus and Paul F. Tompkins and going like, this is pretty disappointing. Until the last act of the movie. Like, I guess his hair just, once he leans into being a pet detective, his hair just like goes boing and goes up. Right. And he starts. He does the Ace Ventura hair. He starts going, all righty then, and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:10 You know, the thing he auditioned with, of course. You know, they walked in kids and they said, all right, come in. Now say all righty then. Say do not go in there. I took some video of some of the greatest parts and I wish I could find it. I wish I was prepared for this but remind me in our next episode all right i'll remind you to bring in these the you know what i think they should do they should do a sort of kid version of all of ace ventura's movies there
Starting point is 00:18:35 should be like a kid liar liar there's this you realize his name is jim carrey what did i say his name was all of ace ventura movies. All of his movies. When I was a kid, I used to just call him Ace Ventura. Ace Ventura, the cable guy. Remember when Ace Ventura went deep, deep into character to play Andy Kaufman? That was really crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Ace Ventura, Sonic the Hedgehog. This is not a bad idea to rebrand these movies. And to just sort of make Ace Ventura, Sonic the Hedgehog. This is not a bad idea to rebrand these movies. And to just sort of make Ace Ventura like a sort of like, what's Mark Short's character? What's Mark Short's character that he does in everything? Oh, no. The character that he does in everything? Oh, Ed Grimley. Grimley.
Starting point is 00:19:22 It should be like Grimley, where he could just travel the world as Ace Ventura. They kind of dance the same. Yeah, they do. I mean, Ace Ventura was, you know, I have to say, I saw that movie at the Westminster Mall. And I just, I was so delighted by it when it came out. Because no one was making movies like that. And it reminded me of things like ed grimley which are just like goofy and fun and he was going for it and then i watched it recently
Starting point is 00:19:51 and i was like oh this is a little big yeah at the time i was like yes finally someone is acting big it was refreshing at the time because there were i don't think there were comedies that where someone could you know talk through his butthole or whatever yeah i i had a girlfriend at the time because I don't think there were comedies where someone could talk through his butthole or whatever. I had a girlfriend at the time who she worked for propaganda films and she really
Starting point is 00:20:15 turned up her nose at things like Dumb and Dumber and when she learned I liked things like Dumb and Dumber, she was like, okay, that'll be for you. But then one of my first spec scripts that got a lot of attention she she i i was trying to describe it i was like well it's kind of like a dumb and dumber kind of thing and she was like oh boy but she has a favor to me even though she thought it sucked, probably, I don't even think she read it, she put it in the to-read pile at Propaganda. I had no representation or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And it was the only script to get a recommend by the readers. And I remember she came to me and she was like, I gotta apologize. I just assumed your script sucks. But I was like, well, you did this nice favor for me. You said it was like the other dumb project. So I thought it was probably dumb. It's like, no, it's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:21:11 So today we're talking about the sequel to Space Jam. And Scott, I wanted to ask you, what are the chances you think this sequel is going to be better than the original? And are there any sequels that you like better than the original, Scott? Gosh, this is really... I'm going out on a limb here but watch yourself me i sometimes i feel like the godfather 2 is better than the original you know what scott you're gonna get a lot of hate tweets you're gonna get a lot of people and occasionally i
Starting point is 00:21:42 feel empire strikes back might be better than Star Wars. That's true, Scott. Those are two classics that I do. I would agree with you, but I'm not going to go on the record because, of course, I don't want to get torn apart. Of course. I'm not in this climate. Yeah, but I think like I'm a person who has a real controversial opinion. I kind of think Ghostbusters 2 is better than Ghostbusters 1.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I kind of... No, no, no, no, no, no. The ghosts on the patches are holding up two fingers. Scott, I think that's... They know they're in a sequel. I think that's the ghost being like, peace, baby. We've talked about this. Let's have some fun. We've definitely talked about this.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Oh, by the way, Secret of the Used is better than the first one. In my opinion. Oh, that's true about this. Oh, by the way, Secret of the Ooze is better than the first one. In my opinion. Oh, that's true, Scott. Oh, that's true. If you're a deranged human being, you might believe that. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:33 here's the reason I like Ghostbusters 2 better, all right? It's a little bit more fun for me. You know, there's a lot of, like, good music. There's a toaster that dances around. There's a green sludge. How old were you when it came out? That's probably what it is. That's what it it is because you never saw the original in the theater i was like this is the this is the original ghostbusters this is incredible you know and
Starting point is 00:22:54 and i think there was maybe a better song what was the song at the end it was on my own by bobby brown it's on my own by the way don't they also have Your Love Will Be Lifting Me Higher when they're walking in the Statue of Liberty sprayed with green goop? Maybe. Because they've got to get good vibes. So they play Your Love May Be Lifting Me Higher by Steve Winwood, I believe. Let me check that out.
Starting point is 00:23:20 I will say On My Own by Bobby Brown. Second best song that has the word ghost busters in the title that's or no i'm sorry not in the title in the lyrics the first one is busting make me feel good is that the first one is the ray parker jr and but the third is the bus boys cleaning up the town interesting i don I don't know that one. That's from the first movie. It's when the Ectomobile is like peeling out of the fire station
Starting point is 00:23:51 for the first time. Is that the one that's like Can you do it? You have to. That's Bobby Brown. That's Bobby Brown, yeah. That's Bobby Brown. It's the one that's like
Starting point is 00:24:00 Ghostbusters came in cleaning up the town. The like old big band song or whatever that's really interesting sort of the busboys yeah they were in streets of fire and stuff like that i don't think i know that one look if you if you disagree that ghostbusters 2 is better than ghostbusters 1 well i mean you know you're a deranged human being no i think that's a controversial opinion everyone loves one a little bit better. Howard Huntsberry did the Higher and Higher
Starting point is 00:24:27 from Ghostbusters 2 soundtrack. Oh, interesting. Different, different. Good old Howard Huntsberry. Huntsberry, of course, of course. Oh, but Run DMC, they have a song called Ghostbusters.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I would say that is the fourth best song that has Ghostbusters in the lyrics. You know what I was going to say? It's like Bobby Brown doing the Ghostbusters song. We have the Ghostbusters and we're in control.
Starting point is 00:24:46 R. Kelly doing the Space Jam song. It's like we've got to really start to vet these soundtrack artists a little bit better because once they get canceled... I know Bobby is... Should Bobby be canceled? He's kept such a low pro. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:24:58 What are we really canceling, dude? Just probably on some VH1 reality show or something. So as far as this sequel goes, in our last episode, we talked about what we thought might happen in this. Right. Let's talk about what, okay, so in my opinion, the granny probably raps. Yes. Now, that I feel like is always a good guess in any movie with an old woman in the trailer. You want to say, you know what,ances are she's probably going to start rapping
Starting point is 00:25:25 if you think about it. I think that could definitely happen, Scott. I think, let's see. I kind of feel like... The plot, what do we think the plot is? Because I think they probably hew pretty close to the... I would imagine it's like the same characters
Starting point is 00:25:41 as the Danny DeVito guy takes him to space again. And they just, they come Danny DeVito guy, like takes him to space again. And they just, they come back and they're like, actually we, we couldn't beat Jordan, but you know, this LeBron guy is not as good as Jordan.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Michael Jordan is the best that ever was. Michael Jordan was the best there ever was. This guy's the second best. This LeBron, he's the second best. We could beat the second best. And then, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:00 that's, that's sort of LeBron's call to action to just sort of kick their asses to prove he's ultimately better than Michael Jordan. I want to see the Looney Tunes all taking a knee before the game. Yes, we do want to see some sort of social commentary. Like they must do something to talk about the NBA's sort of social, new social voice. Maybe they paint Black Lives Matter on the court or something like that. I think that's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And look, if one of them kneels and says Toon Lives Matter and it's a t-shirt, we're kind of screwed because that was sort of our big... That's our big t-shirt, yeah. That's our big t-shirt. Should we amend... Should we amend it to but not as much as Black Lives?
Starting point is 00:26:40 We might need to do a back. This shirt might have to have a back. Our first shirt with a back. It's like, toon lives matter, but that doesn't take away from the fact that black lives also matter. Matter more.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Matter more. Yeah, we got to be clear. We got to talk to the legal about this, Scott. Well, then again, don't toon lives matter just as much as black lives? All lives, really, when you think about it. This is one of those conversations.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I think, save it for when you're on Bill Ma, Scott, because I don't think... I don't think... Scott, I did want to correct myself because last week I did say there were some other sequels that were going to be made that got scrapped. And I told you about the Race Jam movie,
Starting point is 00:27:19 which I think is maybe not a great title for something. Yeah, not so good. Especially after the conversation we just had. That was going to be with Jeff Gordon. They were going to do a skate jam with Tony Hawk. But there's one that I'm really intrigued by that I actually think would have worked. And that is Spy Jam with Jackie Chan.
Starting point is 00:27:38 With Jackie Chan, which I read today that they turned that into Back in Action. Now, did they? yeah that basically that's the script that they used as the starting point for looney tunes back in action now why isn't jackie chan in it that's the thing that's interesting to me is jackie chan as a movie star with the tunes he's kind of a looney tune himself the way he does stunts is he he like really gets hurt which i think is one of the things that makes him different just like the action stars how great would it be if you were watching a looney tunes cartoon and and like wiley coyote in the credits
Starting point is 00:28:14 like you know actually got hit in the face and was like ow ow ow ow and he was like hold on yeah they showed like a bunch of bleeding and a bunch of everyone runs in and he's like you know the road order gets up and he's like it's fine it's okay it's fine i ran into the wall that i was gonna paint into oh you know what i think that's gonna happen scott i think there's gonna be a future i think there's gonna be a trade they're gonna paint a wall and the trade is gonna come through it's one of their only bits oh yeah they have to i mean or something's gonna come through it's got to be a train though and i also think that lebron he's going to sort of i think the movie's going to be all about the decision scott the decision now the decision is when lebron
Starting point is 00:28:52 controversially said i'm going to the miami heat and taking my talents to south beach which the only reason i know that quote is because neil campbell wrote a joke for us. In Bang Bang. Well, on the podcast, occasionally we would play games in the early years and as just comedy pieces. And Neil and I wrote some together. And Neil wrote one where it was like, who said this quote?
Starting point is 00:29:17 And the quote was, I'm taking my talents to South Beach. And the answer was, what's his name? Andrew Cunanan. Andrew Cunanan had famously the murderer yes that's a pretty funny joke it was a pretty funny but i didn't know who either of the people were he worked out of like hold on we've got to look up what this joke is referencing first i'm finding out that comedy bang bang was really a nba sort of sketch show there was so much
Starting point is 00:29:46 well dude like like uh uh neil and mike canford first of all they loved hockey more than anything so the infamous hockey episode was just their brainchild because they want it was in their contract they would only play all the time but they would always be doing basketball stuff which i i didn't really understand but the the whole three-pointer episode was was based on that and i had to practice shooting a three-pointer for months in preparation for it and then on the day i only made it twice and out of 17 takes i think and and we had to restart because it was the one take episode. So we had to reset for 17 times.
Starting point is 00:30:29 And then the episode came out and everyone was like, oh, well, they CGI'd that basketball. And I was like, why did I practice for months? I was out there putting in work. I was out there getting wet, doing like a cross-up.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Scott, I feel bad that your training went to waste there, Scott. Yeah. And now we've been talking about, you know, we about basketball scott and i want to say we've got a couple guests coming in that are gonna oh yeah we should have hyped this uh early in the episode we really should have hyped this early in the episode but of course if you're reading you know you've got the titles of course scott we're gonna have two basketball experts here scott we're gonna have the boys on the show. Those men?
Starting point is 00:31:07 The boys, Scott. And I ain't talking about Jack Quaid. No, I'm not. I'm talking about... Although we should get Jack in here to watch something. Yeah. Like maybe something his mom or dad are in. What's a Randy Quaid movie you haven't seen?
Starting point is 00:31:23 Not a Randy Quaid movie. No, no. Something his mom is in, maybe? Who something his mom or dad are in. What's a Randy Quaid movie you haven't seen? Not a Randy Quaid movie. No, no. What's a Dave Chappelle? Something his mom is in, maybe? Who's his mom? Meg Ryan. Oh, yeah. Meg Ryan.
Starting point is 00:31:32 All right. We'll figure that out. Yeah, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Have you seen You've Got Mail? I have, unfortunately. Okay, okay. On both ends.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Both for the show and the fact that I saw it. Yeah, the fact that you saw it. Well, Scott, we're going to have the boys on. I've always thought Dave Chappelle would be Tom Hanks' best friend. I always thought Dave Chappelle was going to go on a run as Black Friend. You know, after that movie, I was like, throw Dave Chappelle everywhere. You know, my client Sean Disson famously used to say as a kid, they should have thrown Dave Chappelle on that show with David Spade.
Starting point is 00:32:03 What was it called? Just Shoot Me or something? Just Shoot Me. I was on that. Yeah, of course. You were famously on that. They should have threw David Spade in there sort of as like... Spade. Spade. They should have thrown Spade in there. Or Chappelle. They should have thrown Chappelle in there as like the male guy. Yeah, why not? I mean, Brian Poussin
Starting point is 00:32:19 was the male guy, but... Okay, but yeah, but Brian Poussin, you can see that guy works all the time. You know what I mean? And Dave chapelle doesn't no not at the time well no you're right dave chapelle works hard dave chapelle was more pop more popular than any of us i remember i was bumped by him at ass at the aspen comedy festival and i'd been like david cross and i were working on a bit and we finally we and then and then the person who ran the show was like Dave Chappelle did 45 minutes instead of 20 so we're not going to have
Starting point is 00:32:49 you guys on. Alright so Scott Dave Chappelle's banned from the pod. He's not allowed on. I don't think we should ever have and if anyone wants to support us on that just send us some letters of support that we are banning Dave Chappelle. Or if you're upset about it, send us
Starting point is 00:33:06 tweets just as far as Chappelle. Also, each of these letters should have $1 bill in them. We'll talk about that later. We'll talk about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. So me and Scott are going to watch the sequel to Space Jam 2. I mean, to Space Jam. Space Jam, a new legacy. And we're going to be seeing if this sequel holds up
Starting point is 00:33:21 the way Ghostbusters 2 does. Yeah. And we're going to have special guests. The boys, Sean Clemens and Hayes Davenport. Those men. We're going to finally figure out
Starting point is 00:33:32 if they, when they're off mic, if they drop the act. Yes. This was sort of the thing. Point blank. We sort of said, all right,
Starting point is 00:33:40 so before they come in, we said, let's sabotage these guys. Let's bring them in. We won't have Carl there. And we'll see. Do they drop the act when it's just the two of them? So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:33:49 We'll see. We'll see. Because we're being totally authentic. Oh, we're being our true authentic selves right now. So we are going to pause this now and watch the movie authentically. We're going to watch the movie together. And then when we come back, we will have the boys. You and I are going to watch the movie together and they're going to watch the movie together. And then when we come back, we will have the boys. You and I are going to watch the movie
Starting point is 00:34:06 together and they're going to watch it together. We're all going to have come back watching it and then we're going to talk about this thing and we're going to find out if the boys drop the act. And we'll be right back with Scott Hasn't Seen. Alright, here we are. And we're back, of course.
Starting point is 00:34:26 We're here. We just, me and Scott, just watched Space Jam, A New Legacy, and we're joined by those men. We're joined by the boys. Those men. Those men are here. We're joined by the terrible twosome. What are the nicknames you guys have?
Starting point is 00:34:39 The gruesome twosome? Do we have any other nicknames? Those men came to us us people just started calling us that and i didn't know why uh and then i learned it was because it was because of me started saying it well i kind of felt like you you had you had confusing branding when the tv show the boys came out yeah no it actually did us a huge favor and you sort of launched us into the next phase and You had confusing branding when the TV show The Boys came out. Yeah, I know. It actually did us a huge favor, and you sort of launched us into the next phase. And we had gotten older in the meantime
Starting point is 00:35:11 since we'd come up with The Boys. We'd really become those men. So it truly is like The Boys, a new legacy. We should see if we could change our promo codes to those men for all of our ads. That actually might just embrace it. Because your brand is maturing, you know? You are those men, all of our ads. Because your brand is maturing. You are those men. Two-thirds of the
Starting point is 00:35:30 flagrant ones, of course. We've got Sean Clements here and Haves Davenport. How are you guys? Doing great. I loved being asked to watch this movie. I loved... Okay. You loved being asked. He loved every single second. movie. I loved it. Okay. You loved being asked.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Okay. He loved every single second. That was the best part for me as well, I gotta say. That was pretty short. I have to say, it took about 20 seconds? Getting the ask was the best part.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Is that what you're saying? Just seeing the email in my inbox from Scott. Seeing that I had an email from Scott and then there wasn't like some sort of lawsuit attached. A DCMA, like take your shit down request and then on top of that that he was actually asking me to watch a movie oh what fun now did you think i was asking you to watch it with me um definitely not okay good that was just like a bridge too far there was no there was maybe there was already a zoom link in there and the zoom link was like don't get any
Starting point is 00:36:32 bright ideas buddy would you have watched it with me if i had asked you to watch it absolutely yeah yeah i would have done it as i think i you, I was actually planning at the time you asked. My wife was going out of town, and the only thing I had really agendized for that time was to watch Space Jam A New Legacy. I'm so glad you would do that. What are you going to do while I'm gone? And I was like, I don't know. But in my head, I was going to watch that. But I will say two hours of this will be Space Jam A New Legacy.
Starting point is 00:37:02 The other 84 hours, who knows? And then, yeah, go ahead. I want to ask the boys, those men, what is your experience with Space Jam? When did you see the original Space Jam? What's your history there? I watched it when I was a little kid.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I was probably eight when it first came out. So you were born in 1988? It came out in 96? 96, I believe. Maybe 97? We talked about this on the live. It's 96, I think.
Starting point is 00:37:33 96, okay, then I was 10. So you thought you were younger, and you were making excuses of why you liked it so much, because you thought you were eight. I think 10 is okay. I think 10 is okay. Ted's still reasonable, not embarrassing yet. Were you going to say you were playing ball at the time?
Starting point is 00:37:51 I was playing, yes. I was playing a Super Nintendo game called Looney Tunes B-Ball. Okay, okay, okay. So you weren't playing basketball. You weren't actually dribbling. You were playing a video game. This was not actually connected to Space Jam at all. At some point around then looney tunes about it seems very random but looney tunes and basketball were a thing there was taz in like the
Starting point is 00:38:13 like like shirts with like him spinning the streetwear yeah that was all the like looney toots streetwear did you guys have a bug shirt where you had JNCOs or whatever? Big, long bug shirt. Yes. The bug shirt was covered up my slippers. It was so long. Did you, with those big, long shirts that were so popular, were they, would you buy them in the regular size that you would normally buy a shirt, but it happened to be longer? Or would you have to buy them in up a size
Starting point is 00:38:42 so that they would be bigger on you? I bought an extra small, and it was that I was swimming in the damn thing. It was just tight to the chest. But it went all the way down. I said, what size do you have? Because I want to get out of here. I want my family to be able to find me
Starting point is 00:38:58 if anything happens. Wait, where's little Sean? What's this pile of clothes over here oh that's this show no to be cool what's all this dirty laundry doing walking around if you wanted to be like cool in elementary school at that time you would like take your t-shirt and pull it down and stand on the bottom of it to get it really really nice and long. Wow. I missed all of this. Because I'm a little younger than you guys.
Starting point is 00:39:29 I'm a millennial and I was in high school in the 2010s. I know you. You're very young, but I would do and I would have big, giant parachute pant style khakis and then I would have a long belt as well.
Starting point is 00:39:45 The belt is too long. And I would tie that through so the belt's hanging down. And you tie it around the outside of your t-shirt. That's right. And then you would also have a backpack and you would leave it so slack that it was bouncing off the back of your feet.
Starting point is 00:39:59 You only can use one strap and it's so low that that... So every time you take a step forward, you sort of trip on your shirt and then your heel kicks your backpack, which is hanging down behind your ankles. So, Hey, is this video game?
Starting point is 00:40:13 Was it like, do you remember it being fun or were you just like, why am I playing this? It was really, really fun. It is basically the source material for space. Do you have a new legacy? There's virtually no difference between it is a
Starting point is 00:40:26 video game it is a video game which figures very prominently and you get like style points and power-up points and stuff like that i also just looked it up on wikipedia and i'll paste the the character research while we're recording the show best guest i don't want to see what year it came out, but I just put it in the chat. Every one of the Looney Tunes was voiced by the same person. The famous Greg Burson. Whose name is Greg Burson.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Huh. They did not get his name on the paperwork. They were like, was that that Greg person that was in here? And it's like, just call him Greg Burson. Did you say Greg Burson or Greg Burson? Just put down B down berson um wait we haven't asked uh sean when what about you with space jam um well let's see 96 that means i was 15 which tracks because i went i sort of wondered why didn't i see it in the theater and i think I felt like I was a little too old to go buy a ticket for it
Starting point is 00:41:26 but I feel like people around my age all had a closer relationship with it like I feel like they did see it in the theater I did watch it like on HBO or something whatever it was I feel like you could go if you were 15 if you were a big Michael Jordan fan like if you lived in some city
Starting point is 00:41:42 and you were like I mean to the bulls yeah like if you were yeah which I'm into the Bulls. Yeah, which I wasn't that huge of a, you know, I mean, obviously he was the most famous basketball player, but I wasn't like a crazy crazy Jordan fan where I needed to see it. Like if there was a Jerry
Starting point is 00:41:57 Stackhouse space jam, I would have been in theaters for that motherfucker so hard. I love Jerry Stackhouse. Is Jerry Stackhouse the deli? Jerry's Stackhouse the deli? Is Jerry's Stackhouse the deli? Yes. So that's what's so interesting is they call the deli Jerry's but his last name
Starting point is 00:42:14 is Stackhouse. They should have just called it Jerry's Stackhouse. The Stackhouse. I'm going to the Stackhouse today. That's the name of a deli. Or if it said Jerry's and then in parenthetical house that would make absolute sense i didn't see it because in 96 i was a grown-ass man and i had been doing comedy for a year already and i think sure i think um but you
Starting point is 00:42:41 could have clowned on it you could have got you... You could have... Yeah....toked up a little of that grass. Oh, hell yeah. You know me. That devil weed. Some of that demon weed got in there... The tree. ...and just clowned on it,
Starting point is 00:42:52 throwing fucking Skittles at Bugs Bunny. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, there was a period, I think it was more 97, 98, whenever Batman, the fourth Batman came out,
Starting point is 00:43:02 when we were seeing every single weekend Paul F. Tompkins and everyone that was in comedy at the time, 98, whenever Batman, the fourth Batman came out, when we were seeing every single weekend, Paul F. Tompkins and everyone that was in comedy at the time, we would go see a movie every single Saturday, no matter what, whatever was in theaters and we would clown on it. And so this just was like a little early for me for that. I did that with my wife for a period. And that's how I wound up seeing R.I.P.D. That's a lot of... I was just going to ask you, what was the worst movie you think you saw in that time?
Starting point is 00:43:35 And maybe R.I.P.D. is probably right there. I'm pretty sure that's number one. But I saw it. I definitely watched Space Jam on cable and more than once that I remember thinking that Bill Murray was funny and that you know. To me it was not a bad movie. It was like
Starting point is 00:43:55 goofy but I didn't think it was okay. Okay. That's alright. Because this whole time I was watching the new one and I was like, Goofy was the best part of the movie. Where's Goofy?
Starting point is 00:44:11 Could you imagine a Goofy basketball player? That'd be so funny. Now you guys know that I played Goofy at Disneyland. Yes, I've heard this. I'm very protective of him. What lost to some shit? I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I dressed as Scooby-Doo, so we both have been doing dogs. Like for fun? Barker Animation Museum. In Connecticut, there's an animation museum and they have cartoon character suits and you get paid to dress up and hang out.
Starting point is 00:44:44 That's cool. And you were Scooby-Doo. How old were you? I was a teenager. Did you have to do the voice or was it silent like most of those are? I was supposed to be silent. Enough children were like kind of assaulting me and asking me to speak that I did kind of do a like, Wait, isn't that
Starting point is 00:45:08 Tim Allen? Yeah. And that's what I was going for. Get so confused and be like, all right, this isn't same time. I'm getting a kid. You don't want me to pull off this head because you're going to see the tool man. More one thing about the original Space jab that maybe you guys remember is that the nba
Starting point is 00:45:29 the part with the nba players where they lose their powers and they're sort of running around or like talking to a therapist and stuff like they're not powers by the way you're you're calling them like they're the x-men or something the reason i say power is because larry johnson's famous line at the end of the movie, I got my powers back. They're clearly powers, Scott. Okay. I didn't realize that big famous basketball players were like mutants. They're glowing
Starting point is 00:45:54 like streams that flow into a basketball. They're powers. So it could have happened to any of us. Yes. You know, last week I introduced Scott Ockerman to Grandmama. orkham into grandmama do you guys remember grandma yes yes absolutely yeah we talked about grandmama grandmama's famous appearance on family matters where grandmama and urkel play eddie winslow and his friend
Starting point is 00:46:17 or something and do i do i just wanted to bring that up i don't know if you guys have any stories they also show in this movie some clips of lebron in his version of grandma when he was in that just like where they're doing like the clips from his career at the beginning and the was that the commercial where there was like 15 versions of lebron and something lebron's and he was every member he wasn't just grandma it was more like a clump it was like He was every member of his own family. And that was one of those things showing LeBron's famous range, which of course you see in this movie. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I do want to say, I don't know about you guys, but as a super producer in Hollywood, to me, this was the greatest movie of all time. Okay. This thing slapped. We got every single movie in the water brothers universe you know it was like watching every movie so i don't have to watch any other movie ever again the crossover element to this it was like listening to girl talk you know i used to listen to all these different bands so much time we got he's kind of going over the tiny dancer piano track like i don't know what the fuck i was doing before this guy's
Starting point is 00:47:25 got fat man scoop over vanessa carlton over here i feel like i could just listen to this i go to agree this was the this was the girl talk of movies i loved every single reference in it i love when at the end where there were people on the sidelines they were just people in sort of like halloween costumes of the mask and we'll talk about that when we get to the end but first of all we should ask you guys like what what did you think and did you i guess we can talk about it versus the original later but what did you just think of this i i really i mean for me like the personal like like lebron's like family angle uh was really interesting uh i was it was interesting learning more about his family life you realize they were all actors they're all
Starting point is 00:48:16 actors and yes the character names are different from his actual kids names but it's probably his wife's name is not that yeah but they were clearly doing impressions you could see that they had built they had watched tape of the yeah they'd hung around with the lebron family oh they must have lived with them for a while yeah exactly and lebron is like everyone has always kind of wanted like you follow lebron and like you learn more about him and like you the question that everyone has is why does lebron hate video games so much yeah and this explains that it actually explains it in the first seed this is like an origin it's his origin story he finally answers the question of why he hates video games
Starting point is 00:49:00 yeah because it's like the driving like Well, every time I've seen... I haven't seen him play a lot of basketball, but anytime I watch him, it's obvious while he plays that he hates video games. He hates it. You know, with just the things he mutters while he's dribbling, you know. I haven't seen him play much basketball,
Starting point is 00:49:17 but I have seen him play video games, and he looks so mad. He's like, why am I doing this? He's hating it. Who set up this Twitch stream? I know he's pissed. am i doing this who set up this twitch stream i know he's pissed but i you know i don't know i i i feel like you guys are wrong i i know you guys are making fun of this movie you're making fun of this movie i feel like hayes is sort of being a little obtuse here see scott this is one of those things i don't think they dropped the character scott oh i'm gonna ask him later by the way okay if we ever drop the characters oh i'm gonna ask them later by the way
Starting point is 00:49:45 if they ever drop the act oh hey i'll be i'll give you my genuine opinion which is i i mainly watched the movie because i thought wow lebron must be such a fun dad and in fact he's not what i found out was that he's mean he's a he's a disciplinarian and and it has a problem yes where he can have fun there in the original movie they sort of play on jordan going and playing in in playing baseball and then having his return they're really fun of his career in the original like with lebron his problem is he's an asshole. This should be about how mean I am to my family. Don't you think if you got this script, you'd be like, guys, yeah, I understand you have to learn something in a movie,
Starting point is 00:50:31 but let's change this. I'm not mean to my entire family all the time. I'm thinking about how often I've worked on like a TV show where there's like a totally fictional character and it's like just every note to it is like, we need to see that she's an incredible mom that she's amazing at her
Starting point is 00:50:50 job but that she loves her family so much and it's like this is a real guy playing himself with his own name and somehow that note never came through the only thing he does is he writes the name of his fake family
Starting point is 00:51:05 on his shoes and that's supposed to be the big he loves his family and he said when he reads it later he's going like oh yeah they're all people like he's like thank god it was on my shoe it's interesting when you say that about the notes that you get in hollywood about she's got to be an incredible mom she's got to be great at her job and she has to love her family it's it's almost like being in a job interview where those are the negatives because i love these three things and i'm so good at these three so so much that i don't have time for them all you know yeah and that's that can be the only fault in a movie you know and lebron never got never got that it's like can you have it all you know and it's he has to learn the compromises he has to learn the hard lesson in this movie that
Starting point is 00:51:50 wait a minute my kid is not me no one is good as good as lebron i should just lay off like that's the lesson at the end of the movie he's just like no one's as good as lebron what was no one will ever be as good as me. Not my kid. Like, that should be the lesson he learns. My son invariably would be terrible at basketball. We should talk about the thing that sort of kicks off the movie, and it's another one of his asshole moments. The Warner Brothers studio brings in LeBron to pitch him a project based on an algorithm. By the way, kicking off the movie, I do want to say the first scene is very reminiscent of the first movie where you see LeBron as a kid.
Starting point is 00:52:29 But he's, to your point, he's playing basketball and he's playing video games before the basketball game. His friend, this bad influence friend, gives him a Game Boy and he's playing a Looney Tunes game. That does not actually figure into it. That's a coincidence. Yeah, purely in a movie or allowed one coincidence. And so I thought it was okay. It seems like later he's got like bug funny on the screen. It's kind of seems like bugs later
Starting point is 00:52:58 is going to be like, yeah, we were like we met before. Remember me? We were playing this video game. Why wait? Did Greg Burson just get on this? But they never say that. Bug Buddy says this famous line. Hey, remember me? We met before.
Starting point is 00:53:17 On the Game Boy, see? Hey, Brian. But the other thing is, as a kid, and it says it's 1997, right after Space Jam came out, I thought they were going to, like, he would have just been walking out of seeing Space Jam or something. Like, it's set at the same time. Why don't they ever reference the first one? But I did want to say, as a kid, he says, oh, snap.
Starting point is 00:53:41 And that was not a phrase then. That's Scott's biggest problem with the movie he paused it when we were watching hold on i don't know if i could keep watching this is lebron trying to say he invented oh snap because that's trash i i feel like there was a lot of things that might have been out of place in this you know what but it would have been time appropriate for him to be trying to remember who sings i've got the power oh yeah and so if the kid is going like god oh snap snap that would have been good that's all it's stage direction speaking of music it does start with a song and i thought it was i when the first notes came up i thought it
Starting point is 00:54:21 was i believe i can fly and They really tried to trick you. Because Sprague and I were talking about how we hoped that this movie would have every song by R. Kelly instead of just one. Ignition 1, Ignition 2, Age Ain't Nothing But a Number. But instead it was Ghetto Superstar. It starts with Ghetto Superstar.
Starting point is 00:54:43 It was Ghetto Superstar's prize. wasn't that also from a soundtrack of was that the bulwark soundtrack that's bulwark baby also is that in the wb verse because i would have loved to have seen bulwark show up so which i don't understand why bulwark wasn't there why he didn't like dunk on the grandma come back like oh bull was here well i mean every it wouldn't be any weirder than anything else that was in the back half of this movie to have bulworth very true but okay so then um then then we see him at home and by the way sprague thank god they gave him like a huge mansion because yeah because the first one j Jordan lives like, we said, is like the Beethoven house. It's like a house of like a sort of Connecticut house. And the dog comes out and everyone's like, hey, Jordan, like his neighbors talk to him. The truth is Jordan probably lived on some compound right outside of Las Vegas or something where he had like tunnels to casinos or some shit. to casinos or some shit.
Starting point is 00:55:44 But the Braum has like a compound. He's in a huge mansion and he has a basketball court at his actual house. And then his kids are playing basketball and they have a thing. And this was the only joke in the first half hour. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:54 They have a ball. And I don't know if this is a real thing. It made me believe that this existed. There's a ball machine that when you say the word ball, it passes to you. It shoots out a ball, almost like the, the tennis ball things that would shoot out balls.
Starting point is 00:56:09 So you could hit, you know, by yourself instead of having a partner, but it'll just shoot out a ball that you can catch and shoot. But it doesn't exist. Yes. Yeah. That, I mean, they definitely like a ball shooting machine like that, but the idea that you, they like hooked it up to like an Alexa technology or something where they can ask for the ball. And it aims directly for your head, too.
Starting point is 00:56:31 No matter where you're standing, if you say the word ball, it's going to fire at your head. If you're one character. And I thought that was a pretty good joke. And I was like, all right, here we go. A lot of physical humor coming. LeBron's going to be sleeping on banana peels and stuff. And then we really settle in. I thought it was a slapstick looney tunes style happening in the real world and i thought oh okay i'll confess that it did go over my head until the third time they did it what were you doing when you watched the movie lebron's son darius thank you thank you
Starting point is 00:57:06 says like oh like you're on the ball or something and then the thing activates and like hits him in the head i just thought like oh it's malfunctioning the beat is certainly didn't expect it was working exactly as designed right i mean let's talk about this because that it seems like it should be a different word. Like ball shouldn't be the word. I know, but you don't want to have to say something too long. No, but I mean, it should be a code word like, you know, when you're having rough sex or whatever, you know, it should be a safe word. Because when you're playing basketball, which you guys have to agree is the most orange ball that there is, right? First of all.
Starting point is 00:57:44 It is the most orange ball that there is right first of all it is the most orange ball but when you're playing basketball quite often you're saying like I'm playing basketball while you're that's right you know and it just seems unsafe so why don't they say come quad or something like that you know especially born out by the scene I mean
Starting point is 00:57:59 where Darius then asks what's for dinner spaghetti and meatballs and that's when I'm like okay because of what he's saying by the way Darius then asks, what's for dinner? Spaghetti and meatballs. And that's when I'm like, okay. That's because of what he's saying. By the way, kumquat is a have a name. Kumquat is a bad safe word during sex. Very bad safe word. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:15 You don't want that in there. So then we're sort of introduced to LeBron's whole family. And I want to say LeBron's wife, I think her character name was LeBron's wife. Kamaya. Her name is Kamaya. No, I mean the actress.
Starting point is 00:58:31 She's from The Walking Dead and she's from the new Star Trek, right? Discovery, yeah. Discovery. I think it's Discovery, but he's being skorkum-ing about it. That's a Paul F. Tompkins reference. Now, this character, I believe, she says like maybe eight lines, and most of her character is about how either she's made dinner or she's going to be mad that people aren't at dinner. And I just thought like, there's not that many women in this movie, you know? Yeah, it reminds me of when I worked for a studio, a movie studio, and I was talking about a certain script, and I said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:59:07 I really think the female role should be expanded because you really want to get a big movie star to do this. And they're going to read this and not want to do it because it's pretty thin. And the head of the studio, who was a woman, by the way, was like, oh, no, we can get anyone with this. And I go, what? She goes, yeah, any actress will want to do this. There just aren't that many parts. And sure enough, a huge, one of the biggest movie stars in the world
Starting point is 00:59:34 ended up doing the movie. But it's just like, it reminded me of that, where it's like, why would, I'm looking at her and she's a big actress. Yeah, why would she show up to this to do like nine lines that are like, get our son back, LeBron. Yeah, get our son back.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Dinner's almost finished. She's saying that in the Space Jam-iverse. Dinner's almost done. Like, who's... They must have a private chef. Yeah, there's no way she made dinner. In the movie's defense, Lola Bunny doesn't mention dinner even one time.
Starting point is 01:00:04 That's true, that's true that's true no we should talk about the lola mostly talks about killing people and like we should talk about the lola bunny controversy because yes lola in this movie her big scene is she's in the movie wonder woman for a second and they really didn't do the whole lola is a sex pot thing in this movie. And I thought, did I miss it? I gotta be honest. I didn't see a difference in her character really all that much. I was like, this was a controversy because she...
Starting point is 01:00:34 So I'm wondering, you guys is like horny teenagers when you saw the first one. Did you want to have sex with Lola Bunny? Not anymore. Yeah. As of yesterday? Because of this movie? Not after what they did to her. Now that I know what she grows up to look like.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Yeah, it's like, nah, not for me. 25 years later, the bloom is off the rose. Yeah, exactly. At the time, I don't think I foresaw that. So I guess I was. But also at that time, I would have had sex with anything. You were looking at, you know, the road run over here and you were like, beep, beep, you know. Any of the tunes just to be that close to Hollywood to show this. That was my dream, you know. So you, in order to make it in Hollywood, would have sex with anyone from Hollywood? Any of the That was my dream, you know? So you in order to make it into Hollywood would have sex with
Starting point is 01:01:25 anyone from Hollywood? Any of the Looney Tunes, certainly. So after this family scene, LeBron was sort of... By the way, can I just say about the wife? Yes. You can tell she's so short in Star Trek because she's... The cast has some taller actors in it.
Starting point is 01:01:44 And anytime they have a full body shot of her walking down a hallway, she's the the cast has some taller actors in it and anytime they have a full body shot of her walking down a hallway she's always like you know five inches shorter than everyone else they are faking her eyelines to lebron so bad in this movie trying to make them seem like they're exactly the and they're both sitting up on the bed having a scene together, and she's just looking like center into the camera. He is two and a half feet taller than her, I think. That was the note that they got instead of like, he's got to be a better father to his kids. It was like, well, his wife obviously has to be the same height as him. She got to be tall.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Why would they be married? They have to be the exact same height. be married they have to be the exact same height i think that also might have been sort of the effect that happens when no one was sort of in the same room while shooting this movie like lebron was sort of in a green screen studio for like the second half completely i feel like yeah but i'm selling it by the way yeah well he's absolutely selling it but so after this family scene lebron the movie gets kicked into gear when LeBron gets brought to the Warner Brothers studios and they pitch him this movie idea and LeBron, which
Starting point is 01:02:50 is, which I guess is true. I gotta say, we're skipping that we saw Algie Rhythm by himself. Oh, right. We are ignoring that we first meet him alone. We gotta talk about Algie. Talking about how good and smart his ideas are well he's
Starting point is 01:03:06 alone but he's also with his non-verbal cgi character that is which is is that clippy i i don't know what clippy is but it's clippy warner brothers ip because this is obviously clippy just like inside the box that clippy came in and then that that was when they de-sexed Lola Bunny. They had to like sex up Clippy. Clippy, right. So they add a little ass. That's why I was so horny with her, Clippy. But I will say that seeing it back to back with that initial LeBron scene,
Starting point is 01:03:38 you are like, well, Algyrhythm's, you know, this villain, he's treating this Clippy guy the same way LeBron treats his kids. So that'll pay off somehow. With the same tone. Okay, so Don Cheadle plays Algyrhythm, who's like in the Warner Brothers servers. He's an algorithm. The server verse.
Starting point is 01:03:56 The server verse, yeah. And when we see him, he is looking at clips of LeBron James. And I think his quote is, I've searched far and wide and I finally found him. And I'm thinking like LeBron's been around for years. Yeah. You've watched him mature.
Starting point is 01:04:14 I mean, we saw him in high school. And also now's not really the time. It would have been five years ago. 10 years ago. Would have like a better search algorithm to look for what they algae rhythm thyself i mean yeah but so what is he what is he searching for he just he's looking for he's looking for
Starting point is 01:04:36 someone who's he's like he's famous he's a family man and he's so famous everyone knows his name like he's just looking for someone famous and he goes it's like his fame combined with my technology awesome tech i think he says yeah which is called warner 3000 or something i think something funny considering lebron's performance in the film is that he is in some ways looking for the most versatile famous person imaginable because it's all about being able to plug him into like every single movie ever made right and that's the idea that's pitched essentially although it was a little confusing but it's basically like hey with warner brothers 3000 technology we can put you into every movie we can put you in batman we can put you in i'm trying to think of any other warner brothers
Starting point is 01:05:22 movie batman i think that's more one of the big ones that's what they mentioned they mentioned for sure man definitely say batman easter egg yeah sean and i talk about this a lot in um the show how to make it in america they were their job was making t-shirts and there would often be a thing where they would pull out a t-shirt and you the audience wouldn't really know if it was supposed to be good or bad and you just wait to see their reaction in order to know how to watch the thing yeah they would either be like yes or like oh no and this pitch was like that we're like i wasn't sure maybe it's good yeah i was surprised i was surprised because lebron goes i gotta say that's the worst pitch i've ever heard and i'm like i was like i didn't think it was that bad
Starting point is 01:06:11 what's confusing about that is that we know lebron in real life actually greenlit that pitch and made the movie so it's confusing maybe that was a joke he also says it's tongue in cheek because he does end up starring in some version of all these different movies. He says, that's the worst idea I've ever heard in my life. And then Algie Rhythm is pissed. He's really hurt.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Algie Rhythm watched these movies and was like, you know what sucks about Batman vs. Superman is it's Ben Affleck and not LeBron. It's true. Then whatleck and not LeBron. It's true. Then what happens? It's LeBron and then I go see it again?
Starting point is 01:06:52 What the fuck happens? I go see The Matrix and it's just LeBron. There's no second step to it. To be fair, I might. I might go see it. I would go see Braveheart with lebron i would be i would love the matrix any of these if they just if they had the balls to just substitute him in for keanu and put it out legitimately in theaters you're telling me you would not see it i gotta say if
Starting point is 01:07:17 they did it like they should do this with like uh all of kevin spacey's roles or something. Where, like, I just go to see... LeBron and Baby Driver. Yeah. I go to the usual suspects, and it's, like, LeBron, like, pretending to have a limp or something. The Bobby Darin biopic, LeBron singing. That should have been the premise,
Starting point is 01:07:38 is that we're going to take all of our canceled stars in the Warner Brothers library, and we're going to replace them with LeBron, the uncancllable celebrity. And then we see the clips of the cancelled celebrities, which gets them paid. We see LeBron in American Beauty. We're kind of like, I don't know if I like this color on LeBron.
Starting point is 01:07:55 I'm not fantasizing about Mina Super. It's a little problematic. Yeah. I would definitely watch that. I don't know what it says about me, but I'd have to see the whole thing. So LeBron basically turns this idea down. He says it's the worst thing he's ever heard.
Starting point is 01:08:14 They get into an elevator and they're leaving. And then all of a sudden... Which, by the way, knowing the Warner Brothers a lot like we do... Mm-hmm. We're all veterans of the lot. These buildings are only two stories tall. You're going upstairs, my man.
Starting point is 01:08:26 They so fudge this. I was blown away. I can't believe they thought they'd get away with that. This was almost as crazy as the oh snap thing in 1997. Scott caught that shit. So they go in elevators and the elevator takes them to the server floor or something. And the kid who loves making video games walks over and goes, cool servers.
Starting point is 01:08:50 And he knows exactly what they are just by looking at black boxes. We should talk about how this kid made video games. This must be some kind of server. We should talk about how this kid made video games because it's like, it took me weeks to make this. And he's just like scanning people with his phone. I don't understand his video game technology. And to get a character to act like a spider, he bought a spider.
Starting point is 01:09:15 And he laser captured it. That's how they make video games, right? Just rent a spider. Yeah. Rent to own. And also there's one move that's like pretty simple. We're going to talk about this. This is,
Starting point is 01:09:31 this move, this basketball move is supposed to be like LeBron's famous basketball move that basically breaks the game and is the key to the entire movie. And it's his sort of lazy crossover step back three. It's just a crossover step back three and even in person disabled the game completely it deletes the character that's pretty crazy
Starting point is 01:09:52 I don't we kind of touched on this before I don't want to skip anything but just like because in the opening his son is unable to do this move that LeBron's been trying to teach him his whole life. Like he can't be like the ball just goes flying like off the court. And then in the like pivotal moment of the game at the end, I was like, well, shouldn't we see the kid do the move? Especially
Starting point is 01:10:20 once he's like all powered up, at least in the first half of the game shouldn't he do it to LeBron and be like looks like I did learn something like right now it's like the executive the executives there is like no we got we got to see Bugs Bunny do it with no consequences Bugs Bunny does it and like first LeBron's gonna do it and
Starting point is 01:10:39 I was like so LeBron's just gonna do his move and the kids just standing like off to the side. He posts up in the corner and never gets a pass or anything. It's like, why? We should mention that doing the move will delete whoever does the move. Yeah, that's the consequence. So LeBron's killing himself?
Starting point is 01:11:02 He's committing suicide, I guess. He is killing himself so that the world may live he's like a modern day we don't think we should have wiley coyote do it like what because he sort of could live through anything but that's the thing is this like granny i mean granny i mean we're really seen it all you know she's lived a full life bug bunny is right there he's a person who has said in the movie, I can survive anything. Yes, that's right. It was so obvious,
Starting point is 01:11:28 just have Bugs do it, and then everyone's like, no, no, no, and then Bugs does it, sacrifices himself, and then is alive in the next scene. He's like,
Starting point is 01:11:35 yeah, I told you I could do anything. My problem with the move is that they pick this move like Jordan sort of had his signature dunk from the foul line thing and in space jam one they exaggerated so he dunks from half court you know in this movie his famous move
Starting point is 01:11:51 is the one of the lazier moves when you see it in person it's not that impressive like it's not oh yeah does he have a better move that he's sort of you know catching an alley-oop or something or a big block maybe could have been a little yeah the chase down block is the famous thing that he did, and you would think that he would do that at one point in the movie. What is the chase down block? Can you guys act it out for me? It's when a guy is ahead of you. So here, yes, I'll act it out.
Starting point is 01:12:18 It's like, okay, I'll be the guy with the ball. I'll be the guy ahead of you. I'm the ref. No, I'm the guy with the ball. No, Hayes is ahead of me. I'm LeBron. No, everyone can't have the ball. There can only be the ball. I'll be the guy ahead of you. I'm the ref. No, I'm the guy with the ball. Hayes is ahead of me. I'm LeBron. No, everyone can't have the ball. There can only be one ball. This is the problem with the whole
Starting point is 01:12:31 climax of the movie. Well, there's multiple balls in this movie. We'll talk about that. Okay, I've got the ball. I'm all by myself. I'm running to the hoop. Nobody's going to catch me. It's an easy bucket. Of course he's going to get it. Then I come truck. I'm LeBron. I'm trucking down the sideline and it's like, well, he can't cover all that ground. This layup is going to go in for sure. Okay, here course he's going to get it. Then I come truck. I'm LeBron. I'm trucking down the sideline. And it's like, well, he can't cover all that ground. This layup's going to go in for sure.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Okay, here I go. Hit the layup. And just before it hits the glass, I fucking spring out of nowhere and I block the shot. And everyone looks over at me, the referee. They're like, you're going to call a foul? You're going to call goaltending? And I'm like, no, clean play. Clean play. You know, I wave it off. off that's a huge they should have done that but
Starting point is 01:13:08 instead they did the like lebron looks down at the ball move though that's not cinematic yeah but we're cutting ahead uh we are the very end but since we're talking about it this is i think a perfect encapsulation of why movies are bad now it used to be better which is if you were in the original space jam if you pitched okay so at the end here well like we'll make everyone think that bugs bunny like really died for real they'd be like what the fuck are you talking about why why would we ever for a second like what like we're gonna pretend like bugs bunny died here's what i'm thinking this is a funny dies and he floats up to space into a buddy sized cloud and then disappears a bunny sized cloud or a bunny shaped cloud good this is a good question i think it's a bunny-shaped cloud. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Because a bunny-sized cloud, I don't know if that would even register. Because in the first Space Jam, the stakes are they might really lose the game. They might lose the game. And they would become slaves at Moron Mountain, of course. But those are the stakes here, too. But then it's also like,
Starting point is 01:14:23 Ant Bugs Bunny's dead. Well, I also have to say everyone on Earth who got lured into watching this game got trapped in the serververse and they would all die as well. Michael B. Jordan. That's a huge part.
Starting point is 01:14:40 We got to talk about that. What did he do? Three days on this? Three days. Can you not remember lines? rehearsal blocking rehearsal costume fitting that part looks like tom sharp like has a bit about the entourage movie where a lot of the characters look like they didn't even slow down their car as they were they were like they would just like wave at the window to like where's parking for this and they're like don't worry just like wave at the wind out. They're like,
Starting point is 01:15:05 where's parking for this? And they're like, don't worry about parking. Just stay in your car. He gives it the Michael B. Jordan heave-ho. I mean, I don't think he has passes. He does say, clear eyes, fool hearts, cat lose,
Starting point is 01:15:15 which I think is a buzzword. Which I was kind of like, did he ever say that in the actual Friday Night Lights? He must have. Because I think, well, did he play football in that or was he just like a guy?
Starting point is 01:15:24 Yeah, he played football. He was a a quarterback okay yeah it was fun seeing him i so this is my experience from like an hour and a half ago i was driving home to record this podcast and i'm thinking about the movie and i'm thinking about this scene where they really pump up sylvester of all people comes in and says i found michael jordan it's like why is sylvester dude why is he yeah why yeah put someone better on the task it should have been wayne knight to be honest if we're gonna bring back the piece wayne knight pissed that he's not in the sequel he's gotta be he be furious. He's got to be. Yeah. I think, so yes, I have a theory about that. So they pump, oh, Michael Jordan's walking in the show. It's like silhouette.
Starting point is 01:16:12 And then it's Michael B. Jordan. And it was funny. I enjoyed it. But then I start thinking like, why wasn't Michael Jordan in this? In this movie. Why have that all? That would have been the ultimate team up to have Michael Jordan come in. They should have teamed up
Starting point is 01:16:25 yes i have a thing about this wait i want to say what happened i'm thinking about this i'm driving a car i'm eating a slice of pizza that i just got from the grocery store you sound gross yes and i use my other hand i'm stopped in a light but now i have both hands to pull out your and with with my other hand i use siri to ask why wasn't michael jordan in space jam legacy and then the light turns green while i'm saying that and so i start moving and then i turn to the left and i see my wife taking a walk and does she see you with all this yes she does she does. And I found out later, we were close enough that I was worried that she had heard me.
Starting point is 01:17:09 That is embarrassing. Do you think she would have divorced you? Immediately? I didn't even confess to her what I was saying. I said I was talking. I pray she does not listen to this. Did Siri have an answer? And I heard, Sean, you have a theory.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Siri did have an answer? And I heard Sean, you have, you have a theory. Siri did have an answer. I had a, I had a, I had a thought experiment, which is just like, they're also disappointed to see Michael B. Jordan.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Now, Michael regular Jordan is like 65 years old. So there's a debate as to who would be more helpful to the basketball team. That's true. Well, that's the other thing is like, good, Michael Jordan's here. If they walked in with real Michael Jordan, would you be like,
Starting point is 01:17:49 wait, why were we excited about this? At least Michael B. Jordan. It's like, well, let's fucking throw him out there. I mean, Michael B. Jordan's got huge arms. I think he's an athlete. He's an athlete. Not to say that he could automatically play basketball, but better than the Looney Tunes, of course. Who would be more helpful?
Starting point is 01:18:05 Yeah. What I got was a very dissatisfying screen rant article. Headline, why Michael B. Jordan wasn't in Space Jam Legacy. And in it, it says, we have no evidence that he was ever asked to be in Space Jam Legacy. But my Wayne Knight theory is, maybe someone did pitch him making a cameo but then they're like well if we ask wayne we gotta ask michael
Starting point is 01:18:29 right because i was like why isn't charles barkley in this if you're gonna have the inside the nba guys in there they were like totally cut it just but here's a question why wasn't michael b jordan in the first space jam it's a good question as a't Michael B. Jordan in the first Space Jam? That's a good question. He was a little kid. He should have been doing it. What was he on The Wire at the time? Right? Wasn't he a little kid on The Wire?
Starting point is 01:18:52 Wasn't he a little kid on The Wire? He was. I think he was Wallace, right? He was Wallace, yeah. Where's Wallace, man? Avon Barksdale is back for this movie. I was going to say, we skipped over the bread and butter of this movie because where the movie, the fun and games of this movie is when they assemble the team and all the tunes
Starting point is 01:19:10 have left i hated this by the way i think this was terrible this was the worst this was the best and worst part the movie bunny bugs bunny didn't like it well i mean me and bugs are very similar in this respect they go from they go through all the warner brothers properties picking up the other the tunes left toontown because algae rhythm promised that they could get out of toontown and be in other warner brothers movies he convinced them that they were like slumming it in toontown and they would be like happier and more satisfied if they were starring in the movies that he had also promised to LeBron. Again, I don't know what's happening.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I don't know what them being in these movies is doing. If I had watched it, I watched The Matrix not that long ago, was Granny... And Granny was not in it as far as I know. They all seem to be very
Starting point is 01:20:04 happy in their new worlds. That as far as I said. Yeah, I don't know. They all seem to be very happy in their new worlds. That's true, I guess. It's a little like the Muppet movie they did, right? Where they've all dispersed and moved on and Kermit's alone in an empty mansion and they've got to recreate the team. Is that Take Manhattan? I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:20:21 No, it's like the recent one. Oh, the Jason Segel one? Yeah. Oh, no, that one. This one happens to go through the best properties that Warner Brothers has to offer. And I think, like,
Starting point is 01:20:32 they go through Game of Thrones world. They go through Harry Potter world. It seems like all they have is Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, Batman, and Wonder Woman. That's all. And Matrix. Don't forget Austin Powers.
Starting point is 01:20:41 And the Matrix. They make... Why wasn't I in this movie? By the way, I'm in Austin Powers 3. I was like, were you in that scene, Scott? Why wasn't I in this mood by the way I'm in Austin Powers 3 I was like were you in that scene Scott why wasn't I like defending the rim Scott the back of your head should have been out there defending the rim
Starting point is 01:20:54 when they go to Harry Potter world LeBron says his famous line Hufflepuff I knew it and he goes nerd alert that you know there was a bunch of rounds of punch up where they got to that and they're like nerd alert all right we could move on got it by the way guys have anything here yeah in the last episode i talked about how i did punch up uh on looney tunes back in action
Starting point is 01:21:15 and i did want to say i forgot to mention this in the intro i today read an interview with joe dante where he was very frustrated he was like. And then they bring in 25 gag writers to like punch up, punch up the Looney Tunes characters, like very dismissively of my work. So, so I guess I knew he was not happy on the day. I told, I told you that Sprague on the last episode, but, but to hear about it from straight from the horse's mouth was very disappointing so here are some of the properties they mentioned of course lebron says his famous line what in the matrix hell and then we go through the matrix universe of course but then they do mad max which i feel like is like a hard r right there's no kids watching that that
Starting point is 01:22:01 yes we talked about this like who is this movie for? When they first released the Matrix clip, we were like, well, no one who's watching this will have familiarity, I think. That's an R-rated movie as well. And it's old. Yeah. It's like every one of these things was also parodied in a scary movie. You know what I mean? It's almost like putting a patent parody in the first one.
Starting point is 01:22:28 By the way, Witness Me is on the little side that Wile E. Coyote holds up the bad backs, which is like what the fucking sick boys hold up before they sacrifice themselves by committing suicide. It's like a tribute to the fucking bone Lord. Doesn't Wile E. Coyote like spray the silver stuff that they get them high on his face. He's huffing. He's doing an inhalant. I was like the,
Starting point is 01:23:00 yeah, not only is it a movie that is hard art, they're using the hard art elements of the film. The most fucked up parts. They go to Austin Powers. Of course, Elmer Fudd is mini me. I kind of laughed at that. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:12 I thought that was pretty funny. I thought he was Dr. Evil. No, Elmer Fudd is mini me. I was so enraged that I was not in the movie. I was seeing red the entire time. And Sylvester says, what are you doing here? To Albert Fudd, which made me think like, wait, you guys know each other from Toontown. What has been happening this whole time?
Starting point is 01:23:36 We should say like that they are going down a checklist of desired characters to get. The Looney Tunes are not on the list. They have traits that they want. They want Superman. They want Wonder Woman. They want Batman. They want King Kong. But they have Trinity on the list. Like one of the makers. Neo's not on the list.
Starting point is 01:23:58 No. Trinity is on the list. Because there's already a character on the squad that will sacrifice themselves at the end of the movie for everyone else. Also, if you go into the Matrix 1, there's a chance to get Neo. There's a chance you get him in the first act
Starting point is 01:24:13 when he doesn't know Kung Fu. That's dicey. Trinity knows what she's doing the entire movie. And when Grandma does her Trinity thing towards the end, somebody goes, she is the one. Which she's not. She's always the one. It's actually pretty stupid.
Starting point is 01:24:30 They're playing fast and loose. I think maybe one of the worst parts of it was when Rick and Morty show up. Oh, my God. Easily the deer of the movie. I know there's a whole article about how they got involved. And I didn't read it, unfortunately, because we just watched the movie. I know there's a whole article about how they got involved and I didn't want to, I didn't read it, unfortunately, because we just watched the movie,
Starting point is 01:24:48 but it was a big negotiation or something like that. Well, it was worth it. It was absolutely worth it to have them come in on this spaceship. Like easily eight figures for. Yeah. Putting them in there.
Starting point is 01:25:01 They also go into two different DC universes, one with Superman and one with Wonder Woman. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. The movie is two hours. Unlike Space Jam 1, which was as short as Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Famously short. This one was so long, and I'm just like, just cut out this side quest business just have fucking lebron get in meet up the looney tunes and then he starts playing basketball with him i disagree game itself go ahead you're right i disagree i think this thing should be a hbo miniseries that takes multiple episodes they should be living in these universes for full episodes. So there should be like a four-hour Snyder Cut. The basketball game
Starting point is 01:25:48 is like 50 minutes of the movie. I mean, that's a lot like the original. When it started and I saw how much was left, I was like, how much basketball is there? So I think they could have taken trims there. Collecting the characters is...
Starting point is 01:26:04 You know, I heard from a lot of people that like that the script was changing every day and no one knew what the movie was going to be and that tracks because it is such fast clips of just like they just pop into a movie and get them and then it's like done in this montage style but some of the scenes are very long it must have been hard to make but then like the rick and morty guys showing up feels totally tacked on. And my favorite part of it is that they just throw Taz against the window and go like, we're done studying
Starting point is 01:26:32 this thing, brat. Like we don't need him anymore, brat. Morty doesn't say anything. And then LeBron points at Taz and goes, does that thing bite? This raised some questions for me about LeBron points at Taz and goes, does that thing bite? This raises some questions for me about LeBron's
Starting point is 01:26:48 awareness level of the Looney Tunes and he loves bugs. He knows them very well. Everyone alludes to the fact that Space Jam happened. They're like, we're doing this again. They're bringing back the old
Starting point is 01:27:04 team. But LeBron never does. Did he not see Space Jam? jam happened they're like we're doing this again they're they're bringing back the old team lebron never does lebron did he not see space jam they really have a complicated relationship with the original movie it would have been so easy to just be like wait that was all real from that was yeah this this movie as as a right as you guys are we're all writers here. This movie could have been streamlined so easily and be a hundred minutes and have a real story that made sense. And, you know, exactly what you're saying, like, oh, that was all real. Okay, well, guys, how much basketball do you remember? And we forgot everything. And then he trains them and then they go do the fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:27:40 And in the middle when they're training, they're like, we need someone who's done this before. Let's go get a ring on. they go get jordan and he probably walks with like a cane and then he trains them and then he does the dick van dyke where he throws the cane away oh no that's uh willie wonka he throws the cane away does the somersault yep i can still gamble he says by the way i i do want to say you you guys made me remember this, but on the Between Two Ferns movie, we did the sound mixing on the Warner Brothers lot. And next door to where we did it, there was this big sort of like fenced off portion of the WB lot.
Starting point is 01:28:17 And I was like, oh, what's in there? And they were like, oh, they built a basketball court for LeBron so that when he is filming, he can still practice basketball in his like in between the scenes and stuff. So there's a huge basketball court that was like you couldn't see with the naked eye. You would have had to go out. What's funny about that is that they did do that for Michael Jordan. They did. So LeBron must have been like, I have to have the exact deal Jordan had, but more.
Starting point is 01:28:44 You know what I mean? I think that was more like Jordan really famously trained all the way because he was such an obsessive, he was a psychopath, a competitor. And so he would have all the best players in the league come play with him on the Space Jam lot. And so I think LeBron knows that and is like, okay, you have to build this thing. I'm not going to be playing that much.
Starting point is 01:29:06 I've got other meetings and stuff. I don't really have to. And I've got all this other stuff in dev. Yes, we will be needing the court to exist. I also think... Oh, no. Just that that's part of why you can't see it.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Because I remember talking to an executive and he's like, I've been going by and trying to sneak in and see what's happening on the court. Because I wonder if people did see some of the Michael Jordan games. But it's like the LeBron one. It's like, hey, make sure nobody can see it. It just seemed like anytime I walked by, it would just be
Starting point is 01:29:46 empty. Get one of the security guards to go over there and dribble a ball around. Just make sure people... Can you put a speaker in the middle of the court with just the sound of dribbling? Hey, give me the ball. I think if this movie was smart, they would have
Starting point is 01:30:01 extended the middle of the movie. It started to go into like funnier movies because I think they were like too on the nose. Like if they were in like The Fugitive or something or if they jumped into like smaller movies. The properties they were going into were
Starting point is 01:30:17 so aligned with like marketing study like just like the biggest, you know, these are our our biggest ticket items and so we need to pump Justice League and Wonder Woman and all this shit. It would have been funny to go into weird movies.
Starting point is 01:30:33 It would have been funny if they went into other HBO shows like Into the Wire and stuff and Bugs Bunny with Stringer Bell. That would have been weird. They're going White Lotus? I mean, it's very hot right now. Let's throw them in White Lotus. Maybe Ted Lasso. You know, everyone's talking about Ted Lasso. They go into big little lies.
Starting point is 01:30:51 So they eventually round up the players, and then they play this basketball game. And the kid, by the way, has been recruited to the dark side by LG Rhythm and is playing against his father. Yes, the kid is in the plot of the movie hook actually where right where hook takes he takes robin williams kid and he starts being like your dad sucks you want to be like me he's being groomed it's actually pretty gross if you think about it this algorithm is totally fun when he first sees lg rhythm he says the computer's black that i thought okay i would say that is the funniest joke of this whole movie i did say all right it was pretty good i would say the funniest joke is uh where they go um we got we're gonna get some butts in these seats and then suddenly
Starting point is 01:31:34 you hear like a huge rumble and bugs goes how big are these butts yeah that was pretty good i thought that was good that was pretty good i'm a sucker for anyone saying but my favorite moment so they really care about like the emotional through line of lebron doesn't know how to have fun and then the looney tunes teach him how i really did get into when he started having fun with the looney tunes i was like and he's just by himself with a green screen but he was really selling that he was having fun with his friends like mar Marvin the Martian and then to show he's like staring down the other team and then he does this face I know exactly what you're talking about Hayes it's the funniest thing it's one of the he has like legitimate physical comedy chops because he can make this one face if you google LeBronames funny face you can see it i saw one i think i'm
Starting point is 01:32:26 good he does it in like post-game interviews sometimes uh but it really i really enjoyed seeing it on on screen i have a favorite joke from the movie which maybe isn't that exciting but um when the manager character is the only one who doesn't get sucked into the stance and he's talking to his phone alone it's just and he's very he's a good actor and he's going he's going siri put me into you i'm sorry i didn't get that he's like siri me i'm here get me suck me into you so i'm just him trying to explain i was like this is a funny bit that they got with this that guy took that was wayne knight's part in the first ones they took wayne knight made him
Starting point is 01:33:10 into this funny young black guy which you know i'm very into that you know well so that carl we heard from carl did any of his jokes get in didn't carl do oh carl works on it oh we didn't know that sean am i wrong about that i i'm i don't I'm sure he may have. You were asking Sean, of course. I don't know why Sprig answered. I think he mentioned getting pulled in to either consult on it or punch up or something. I know a lot of people did. You guys ask on your show.
Starting point is 01:33:39 So the climax of the movie is them playing this basketball game with everyone from every Warner Brothers movie ever watching the game. And this came out in the trailers beforehand where people were zooming in and it's like the clockwork orange weirdos. Oh, yeah. The Iron Giant. That's actually the best moment when LeBron is like, who do we need for courage? The Iron Giant. Like everyone knows who the fucking Iron Giant is. And then he sees Taz one second later. He's like, who do we need for courage? The Iron Giant. Like everyone knows who the fucking Iron Giant is.
Starting point is 01:34:06 And then he sees Taz one second later. He's like, who the fuck is this? Doesn't Iron Giant also figure in prominently to Ready Player One? Yes, which is also a Warner Brothers movie. I thought that was Disney, I think. Isn't Ready Player... Oh, no. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:34:20 I was thinking of Big Hero 6. That was... Yeah, Ready Player One was Warner Brothers. And it is like, yeah, the big Iron Giant I was thinking of Big Hero 6. That was, yeah, Ready Player One was Warner Brothers. And it is like, yeah, the big Iron Giants in it. Right, right. Okay. I mean, they keep trying to make Iron Giant a thing. But, I mean, Brad Bird, you know, he did it.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Didn't he do that one? Yeah, he did. Yes, and it was a catastrophic failure. It's in Ted Lasso 2. They're watching it for... Why is it so... Why Ted Lasso? They're like it for some it's why is it so like iron giant is just like so available do you get a tax break on your movie if you throw it well yeah they play this crazy game yeah everyone is watching from other movies and i was like oh
Starting point is 01:35:01 that's interesting how are they going to do this're going to, they're going to get clips of these other movies and like CGI them. No, they got basically the world's worst extras. They're like Halloween costumes. In Halloween costumes doing, they're, they're acting so hard. And you know that they were there for weeks.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Yes. Having to be like more excited, more excited. Yes. Even the guy playing the math. You're like a little bit like okay like okay let's tone it down to jim carrey levels yeah the i wonder if they gave their library to lebron and asked him like what his favorite characters would be or what he thought would look the coolest
Starting point is 01:35:40 because the people in the front row are like the mask and penny wise like yeah it's shit where it's like it's not you know the harry potter characters and like the most famous shit they've ever done it feels like it was hand-picked in some way it felt to me like the harry potter thing was they have a licensing agreement with with jake that notorious turf jk rowling and and it felt like they only had a certain time limit of stuff that they could use from harry potter because you you saw you did not see them very much in this movie yeah that would you know what i think you know what i think it actually is is that there's going to be a harry potter tv show on hbo max and there's going to be a game of thrones tv show on hbo max on HBO Max that was supposed to be coming out around now.
Starting point is 01:36:25 So I think it was like, let's get people talking about the motherfucking shows. You know, Harry Potter's back. We're no longer talking Fantastic Beasts. Such amazing synergy. All the people who watch Space Jam A New Legacy are guaranteed that. They'll go, I got to see this Game of Thrones show. I got to see this thing. The Winds of Winter or whatever it's called.
Starting point is 01:36:41 I got to see this Game of Thrones show. I got to see this thing with the winds of winter or whatever it's called. Can you imagine though, like spending, because movies take a long time to make, three years or whatever at least, but spending so much of your artistic energy towards making something and directing a movie. And then like, and you do it in the seventies, you know, at the time of like Raging Bulls and Easy Riders or whatever. And you're like so proud of it. and Easy Riders or whatever, and you're like so proud of it. And then years later, you're watching Space Jam and your main character's like jumping up
Starting point is 01:37:08 and down next to Burt Ward dressed as Robin. You know? It's like humiliating and emasculating, you know? Yeah. They had in the front row, they had Arnold Schwarzenegger's Mr. Freeze. Can you imagine being Arnold Schwarzenegger and working so hard on mr freeze yeah they had danny devito's penguin as well they were not next to each other but just like close enough for it you had the batman 66 crooks that had like yes
Starting point is 01:37:39 their their names written on their black shirts. But it got very... Pennywise took me out of it. Was Hellraiser in it? Was Pinhead there? I don't think Pinhead was there. You know who else was there? Space Ghost was there. Space Ghost kept, like, flying around, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:54 I was like, that's pretty cool. I used to watch Coast to Coast, I guess. And also the Wizard of Oz monkeys, I think, which I didn't really think. The flying monkeys? That was MGM, though. I know, so maybe they bought the catalog or something at some point. Well, Wizard of Oz is in the public domain, so
Starting point is 01:38:12 maybe they did. I don't know. That's great. I think there's one Warner Brothers property that they dropped the ball on and they didn't put a character in. They should have had a whole sequence where John Travolta's character from Swordfish shows up, and he says to bugs buddy all right you're gonna get your dick sucked here and i need you to hack this video game while it's happening that would have been hilarious or if
Starting point is 01:38:34 you need to tone it down you're gonna have your ears sucked exactly your ears it should have been an ear sucking yeah you're to get your dick looked at. Yeah. Both perfectly acceptable ways to tone down the two. We're not implying a sexual act, but... So, anyway,
Starting point is 01:38:58 I don't know. Is there any more? say winter is coming. Do you remember that? Oh, Jesus. Right. He's dragging, he's dragging. Oh dragging oh by the way they 3d animate the looney tunes which yes some look okay like daffy looks okay but bugs looks bad you don't want the hair on them they all look like sonic rejects you do i think we should talk about the sort of
Starting point is 01:39:18 mon stars that they end up assembling yeah which are we have we should which are i would say the issue with this movie is they don't have the fun nba player jokes like the first one does this one just has like digital versions of anthony davis uh damian lillard uh who are the the wms gets converted into a villain named wet fire yes which i have a big note on this. Because they say, because he's wet and he's fire. But if you're going to name your water character Wet Fire, who's only made of water and is like, you know, should be called like Mr. Splash or something,
Starting point is 01:39:59 you cannot then have a fire character as well. You can't introduce a character named wet fire who's made of water and then the next character comes out is just a guy who's made of fire and it's like well is he here's my big hot water like what the fuck is this here's my note on wet fire is that ernie and little rel are the announcers in this movie and they go oh that's wet fire i get it because he's wet and he's fire and then one of them says that's really clever i don't think you want to throw that in there no as a writer you can't ever write a joke and then have a have a character that you also have written say boy that was really funny to your deck that you wrote diana tarassi is sort of like half snake half
Starting point is 01:40:41 basketball player which i kind of thought was fucked up. What was her character's name? Her character's name was White Mamba. That's what I thought, but I was like, that can't be right. But then I checked. That is her actual nickname. Oh. She is known as that in WNBA circles. I was not familiar with the other WNBA player, but she was very prominently featured.
Starting point is 01:41:07 Yeah, what was she again? I don't even remember. She was like the spider. The spider. Oh, yeah. The sparrack henna or something. And Damian Lillard, of course, played Kratos. Kratos.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Who has the power to stop time or something, which is pretty funny. That whole sequence, the game stops down so many times for these really, really long set pieces. But I did think that was funny. Just the choices are so odd. He stops time and he decides to dress
Starting point is 01:41:36 LeBron up in a costume and he chooses a pirate. It's just the laziest. Dress him up like a Warner Brothers character. You have this whole catalog. Dress him up like a brother's character you have this whole catalog do dress them up like a cavalier or something at the very least also the x-men like did this same sequence with like i mean i guess they've got quick silver yeah that quick silver and it was so good so much pretty recent and it was like the exact same idea, but like way better.
Starting point is 01:42:08 And so it's just like, what? You got to go either crazier with it. Like do like more gags. Yeah. This is for all the writers out there. Escalate your gags. It's like, guys, it's so easy. Escalate your gags.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Just escalate your gags. You got to teach a master class. So this game is like 50 minutes. That would be all I would say, by the way. It would be very short. There's power-ups. The kid is like jumping on things, and the game kind of doesn't make any sense. People are scoring hundreds of baskets at a time by just
Starting point is 01:42:36 throwing it through the hoop. The score is like 1,000 to 300 or something. And what's also funny is that they didn't even let it be like LeBron's getting his ass kicked in the beginning. Like, Lebron gets a couple buckets in the beginning like he still scores a little bit he is good but it is 100 it is 1039 to 37 at the half and then you know they have their halftime moment and then they figure out they gotta freeze the game because of some glitch or something. I mean, this part started
Starting point is 01:43:05 to really drain for me. I was like, I just want to see more of the characters in IP. I'm tired of this basketball game nonsense. The whole movie dragged. You could cut a half hour out of this. It would be great. Yeah. The gremlins show up. I thought that was pretty funny. Joe Dante's gremlins? Joe Dante's gremlins himself.
Starting point is 01:43:22 I wonder if he's pissed at them, too. He's probably pissed. Somebody punched up the gremlins. How did you know on the day that he was not happy with what was going on? Well, we talked about this in the last episode, but we watched the movie first with the producers and him. And then they said,
Starting point is 01:43:37 okay, well, generally, what did you think? And then we sort of like tore into it a little bit about the plot not making sense. And he was like, he turns to the producers and goes see i told you so in front of everyone and and then i read in this interview he said that making the movie was not fun and it was the longest year and a half of his life and he he didn't have any freedom and he loves the fucking looney tunesunes. Yeah. And the only reason I stumbled across it was because this morning I watched Rock and Roll High School. Scott's watching some weird shit.
Starting point is 01:44:12 I was like, wow, some of these sequences are so good. So I looked up who directed it. And this one guy directed it. But Joe Dante stepped in and directed a lot of the sequences. I'm like, that's the Dante touch. He's like so good at these physical gags. lot of the sequences i'm like that's the dante touch he's like so good at these physical gags yeah and that led me to then looking at this interview where he said that he didn't like working with all the joke writers basically an interview that you thought you'd read for fun
Starting point is 01:44:35 but then cut to the core looney tunes back in action i once a decade for like five consecutive decades there would be the thing that would come out where it would be like the Looney Tunes are back and who's bringing them back? Brendan Frazier and most of the time they have been met with a resounding no they are not
Starting point is 01:45:00 exactly the same thing happened it was just it turned out to be just that thing until the next time they tried to bring them back they gotta get back into street wear that's the only thing that really was enduring for weirdly roger rabbit is i've thought about that it should be he should be back but they don't totally they don't do anything why was that only one movie and then they did a few shorts but like they have a big fucking ride at disneyland that stars him yes you it's this ip that's just sitting there it's like come on well it's right to do uh there was going to be that big looney tunes movie in like 2015 jenny slate was going to write it
Starting point is 01:45:36 what was it it was like the it was called acme or something you know that was like the like the short wow we should get it was going to be like the dark gritty Joker take where like Bugs Bunnies and an insane asylum or something. Yeah, and then shoots Robert De Niro on the head. They were unable to get. They were unable to get a Looney Tunes thing going again until this is honestly true.
Starting point is 01:45:59 LeBron was in train wreck and people were like, oh, LeBron, well, it's kind of funny. He could probably act in a green screen room all by himself wow amazing michael jordan was so unpleasant to work with that it they basically were like let's never do another space until finally they see one basketball player be kind of good in another movie and they're like yeah okay another one
Starting point is 01:46:21 so this movie sort of wraps up you know know, Bugs Bunny shoots a step back three to save all of them or something. And then LeBron still ends up dunking it somehow. I don't even remember what happened. Bugs Bunny dies. He gets a jump panel. His son, Dom, who has switched teams to join his team, frisbees a jump panel.
Starting point is 01:46:43 And Algyrhythm says that's cheating yeah like just strange like where we told that rule like yeah it seemed like algae rhythm was taking advantage of all of that earlier and it was openly cheating at different points in the game like there's only one rule to this game no frisbee power up disc yeah that was so. It didn't seem like it would be cheating at all. Also, every dunk up to this point, there are style points attached to it, so they're each worth like 30 to like 3,000 points. But at the very end of the game,
Starting point is 01:47:15 first, the bad guys are down two, and then they dunk, and now they're up one. And then LeBron sneaks in a dunk invariant, so they win by one. By one. So that one at the end where he used two power-ups was worth two points. Two points. Maybe there's a deleted scene where they talk about how in the last 30 seconds of the game,
Starting point is 01:47:35 there will be no style points or something like that. Yeah. That was on the cutting room floor. Yeah. They all had a little meeting at half court and went like, hey, we got to stop with these style points. It's too hard to keep track of. It seems totally random.
Starting point is 01:47:48 Let's just go back to regular buckets at the end. I want to jump back really quickly to you guys talking about bringing back Roger Rabbit and just after seeing what they did to Lola Bunny, what do you think happens to Jessica Rabbit? Yeah, Jessica Rabbit, no.
Starting point is 01:48:02 She's probably... Yeah, I mean, maybe they... How does that get animated? Yeah, Jessica Rabbit. No, she's probably... Yeah, I mean, maybe they... How does that get animated? Yeah, it's tough. I mean, yeah, I don't know. That's a good point. Maybe that's why it's not getting made. They gotta put her in a potato sack.
Starting point is 01:48:15 She's gonna be wearing a damn potato sack. I want to ask, okay, Pepe Le Pew is famously not in the movie because they felt like him hitting on women is dated. Even though in the first Space Jam he's used perfectly fine where he's just, he smells, which is a great comedic conceit for a character. But Speedy Gonzalez
Starting point is 01:48:36 is still in the movie. It's pretty problematic, I gotta say. Is he racist? They used a lot of ADR where he wasn't even on the thing, but he was saying stuff like, that really hurt, bro. Like a lot of lines.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Well, it's Gabriel Iglesias. Yeah. It's Gabriel. But when every single line... The defense is always that he is beloved in the Latino community. But give him something to do other than occasionally going like,
Starting point is 01:49:05 oh, my frijoles are cold. You know? Yeah, but that just says Neo's got nothing on me, bro. Yeah, that's the famous slide. Now that I think about it, if it's voiced by a famous comedian, it was still tough to watch.
Starting point is 01:49:19 It seemed like every line he said something in Spanish and that was all he was used for. He had no agency in the plot or anything like that. No, he didn't do anything in the game. Tweety Bird gets a dunk. Roadrunner gets used for Roadrunner's speed. Even though we've established that Kronos is way
Starting point is 01:49:36 faster than Roadrunner. And who's faster, Speedy Gonzalez or Roadrunner? This is something that we've talked about before. Yeah, who knows. There's probably a race that they probably had some cartoon or something that we've talked about before. Yeah, who knows. There's probably a race that they probably had some cartoon or something. Here's the thing, if you're going to have Speedy Gonzalez say
Starting point is 01:49:51 that King Kong's got nothing on you, you've got to put him in training day. Let's see the whole thing. I want to see him get shot to death in the middle of Los Angeles Street. I want to see Eva Mendes nude. Right, they cut to king kong i guess that's a funny bit i guess king kong being butthurt is funny he's like not happy um so this
Starting point is 01:50:12 yeah at the end of the movie the game ends they win all the people in the world have been sucked into the server verse and would are gonna be stuck there by the way i don't remember this happening so it happened so quickly people no i don't i don't remember this happening. It happened so quickly. No, I don't remember it happening in real life. Oh, right. You didn't get sucked into the serververse? No, I would have remembered seeing this game because Wet Fire is one of my favorite
Starting point is 01:50:36 players. It's also so clever. So they win the game and everyone gets sucked back into reality. I wonder what this would do for the world afterwards. Everyone would have to come to terms with the fact that they were sucked into a server a lot of people wouldn't have wanted to leave right you know so there would be a whole contingency of people trying to figure out how to get back in there they would like probably storm the warner brothers lot and try to try to force it to happen. Is LG Rhythm lonely?
Starting point is 01:51:06 Yeah, they should have played that up a little bit. Why does he want everyone in there so bad? He wants to get out, I thought. Yeah, he does. He wants to be famous. He wants everyone to know his name. A sort of play on the word algorithm.
Starting point is 01:51:22 I feel like, maybe I'm wrong, I feel like in the first one I really knew what the aliens kind of wanted. Yeah, they wanted slaves. I get it. For the theme park or whatever. You don't really relate to that, Sean. Yeah, of course. They want slaves for the theme park. That's the motivation.
Starting point is 01:51:37 I, of course, have tried to start my own sort of Spraggy Wood like Dollywood and I want slaves to work there. But we'll talk about that. Whereas somebody wanting to be famous or being lonely i can't relate to at all but yeah that that was really weird to me also we didn't talk about anthony davis and the fact that yes really no one ever clowns on lebron for anything except for this invented trait that he's like addicted to the fundamentals and is very strict which is so strange but he says to anthony davis it's time for your eyebrows to break up with each other and then he says like it looks ugly bro get over it
Starting point is 01:52:16 this is a guy who really has a unibrow and his own lebron's team famously yeah it did feel like a kind of burn. And I really wonder if he had to get permission like, hey, just so you know, this is what the character looks like. We're going to really clown on that brow multiple times. Or maybe on the day, he's like, oh, look at what the writers wrote for me. I got to go clear it with him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Are you cool with this? But Jordan got made fun of for his baseball. They made jokes at his expense. That doesn't really happen. It doesn't happen. They don't put fun at any real stuff. Just a little bit about him moving, moving from team to team.
Starting point is 01:52:55 He was played on a lot of teams. They make that joke like three or four times. Yeah, but that's really the only thing, like Michael Jordan legitimately was not good at baseball and they made fun of him for that you know which is really funny and it's funny it does make me kind of be like all right Jordan has a little bit of a sense of humor about this whereas ego radical asshole was like yeah they could take a dig at me it's tough for them to make fun of him in this movie because the thing
Starting point is 01:53:20 that most people make fun of him for now is being in this movie. Well, also, I'm very disappointed. We talked about it before you guys got here. The main thing I wanted to see in this movie is the Looney Tunes characters taking a knee before the game. We thought this would be fun. We thought that'd be a fun Toon Lives Matter thing. And then they say Toon Lives Matter. And we thought that would have been something and of course elmer fudd looks over and he goes he shakes his head like i don't know about this yeah he stands out yeah to me i think it would be foghorn leghorn the southern they did
Starting point is 01:53:59 touch on lebron sort of activism a little bit but they really didn't do what they should have done someone should have come out and sang the national anthem and they should have all kneeled before the game. Speaking of the potentially racist characters, there's a line that Yosemite Sam has or when he's in Casablanca and
Starting point is 01:54:17 she says, play it against him and he says, you got baggage? I can relate, sister. What is it about Yosemite Sam's character? That he says you got baggage i can relate sister and it's like what what is it about yosemite's character that he has so much baggage that he has emotional baggage yeah well he's got incredible anger issues like yeah yeah i guess sure but but then conversely in casablanca is that character known for having a ton of baggage? Not really. It's like a star-crossed lover. They're just getting on a plane or something, right?
Starting point is 01:54:48 Yeah, I guess so. Oh, maybe that was it. We think Bugs Bunny dies. And then at the end of the movie, when LeBron drops his son off at video game making camp. Which, by the way, his kid is an idiot for not knowing what direction they're going in. Basketball camp probably is not around the corner.
Starting point is 01:55:05 Why does he think they're going to basketball ball? The whole movie is about LeBron wants his son to go to basketball camp and he wants to go to E3 game design camp. And at the very end, he LeBron is like, sorry, you couldn't go to E3 game design camp, but you're going to basketball camp instead.
Starting point is 01:55:23 And the kid is like i that's totally okay i wanted i want to take a break from playing i want to take a break the game i designed the game i designed is like came to life this sounds like it's a traumatizing experience yeah i'm having ptsd i need to stay away from video games. LeBron goes, ha ha, fooled ya. And then just pushes him out the car and goes, have fun at E3 video game camp. And he goes, give me that basketball. The kid's like, I'm gonna keep the freaking ball, dad.
Starting point is 01:55:55 You know what? I want to keep it. I want to have to explain it to everyone at the video game camp. That when you're meeting new people, that's what you want. Well, if you want to get right to freaking freak holding a basketball but but if you want to get to really fast lebron is my dad probably the fastest way to do it yeah carry it back i heard lebron's kids coming to e3 let's look around look around okay he's the one with the basketball he's the one dribbling
Starting point is 01:56:26 over there coding and dribbling I also want to say about that debate that debate about which camp he goes to comes to a head in front of all the Warner Brothers executives so so LeBron says this pitch is very bad he's brought his kid
Starting point is 01:56:41 to the pitch his kid says like I designed a video game one of the war brothers exec uh steven june is like starts being like oh really and then the kid just goes like you've heard of the e3 game design camp that's where i'm going lebron goes no you're fucking not it's like i don't want to they start like shouting at each other and sarah silverman's like okay i've got to get. They start shouting at each other. And Sarah Silverman's like, okay, I've got to get out of here. This father-son thing's happening.
Starting point is 01:57:09 And then, yeah, I do think that in the first one, Michael Jordan is such a dick to the other tunes, which is funny because you find out in the last dance, that's how he treated his teammates, you know? This is the part where he yells at the people. But I'm like, is LeBron really abusive to his kids like is this movie how close is why why did they let why did they why did he let the studio yeah i think they tried to have it both ways where they're like well i could be abusive to these kids right but but but i think i think you're right that they
Starting point is 01:57:44 just stole this all from Hook of like, oh, you're a father who's not in touch with your kids. And him reading the script, why does he just go, like, yeah, okay,
Starting point is 01:57:53 I'll do that, you know? Does he not give a shit that much? The whole idea that any basketball camp wouldn't kind of schedule around... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Like these two things that kids like to do. Like he doesn't own his own... We're watching a movie about the combination of them around. Yeah. Like these two things that kids like to do. Like he doesn't own his own. We're watching a movie about the combination of them both. The basketball camp would call every other kid
Starting point is 01:58:12 and be like, hey, so unfortunately E3 game design camp is this weekend. So you will be. At the drop of a hat, LeBron could be like, I'm starting my own basketball
Starting point is 01:58:23 slash video game making camp. Everyone's going to come. By the way, the other thing I want to bring up is the fact that it's a week later. They're going to this video game camp. Everyone in the world got sucked into this video game. Yes. And they don't have amnesia about it. They've never established that.
Starting point is 01:58:41 Everyone remembers. They've never established that. Everyone remembers. Like, this kid is going to be famous at this camp, you know, as the guy who created the thing that they were all sucked into. I mean, he should be. Let's see that. I got to see the sequel.
Starting point is 01:58:55 Let's keep this movie going. I got to see the sequel. This is not what I want. They should have just kept this one going. Another hour on at the end. Yeah. Just sort of the implications of what it means to have sucked everyone in the world into a video game and then now everyone you got to live your life normally it would have been that would have been fun end it like at a24 where it's like an introspective like what have i done
Starting point is 01:59:15 with the world and i think that was so embarrassing at video game design camp that the game you designed almost killed and everyone in the world which at the end you find out bugs bunny is out and he's just now on earth and he's just like i told you nothing could kill me by the way we're all staying at your place and lebron's like oh i don't know if i have room but we've seen his house it's giant and they have they have the joke you know lebron was like i got a joke i'll tell you when we're gonna do it you know we're definitely gonna do this joke lebron's famous little taco tuesday thing i thought was one of the dumbest yeah that's the thing i think he like trademarked it he might have trademarked taco tuesday and he had to include it in the movie
Starting point is 02:00:01 it's really fucking weak but you, you know, it's fun. I guess the implication is that Bugs Bunny's going to live at LeBron's house, which is pretty fun. All the Looney Tunes are. They all come to LA. Bugs is going to live with them and he's like, that's fine. But then it's like, I brought the whole gang. And he's like, what? I'd watch the movie of all of them living in LA and going to auditions and stuff.
Starting point is 02:00:22 Yeah, add another hour to the film. I want to see that. Look, the sequel obviously should be about all of the kids at E3 game camp not liking the kid because they almost died and being very afraid of him. And then conversely, contrast that in the other scenes with the humiliating rejection that the Toons go through in auditioning for films.
Starting point is 02:00:47 Because they used to be able to star in whatever movie they wanted. The Matrix, whatever. That Boulevard type. Yeah, yeah. This is a good sequel. I think the Toons are back. What do you guys think? I really do.
Starting point is 02:00:59 So I got to say, I don't think this was better than the original. The sequel probably is not that great. Me and Scott are working on a sequel that we think is going to be better. It's called Space Jam, but it's about Guy Fieri trying to find a new donkey jam. And he's going into each restaurant sort of figuring out. And then the Looney Tunes come. Well, the Looney Tunes, I'm thinking, should not be part of this. Yeah, I think it's just Guy Fieri.
Starting point is 02:01:23 Yeah, I think this is good. He's still just shooting everything in front of a green screen. Yeah. I think this is good. Comp in the rest It could be like
Starting point is 02:01:33 the characters from like the Viacom universe. Yeah. We've got Nora from Queens. The shorties watching shorties.
Starting point is 02:01:46 Nora from Queens. Michael Ian or yeah Nora from Queens Michael Ian Black from I Love the 90s we've got Little Bush I think this would be good I think this would be good well guys thank you so much
Starting point is 02:01:57 for watching this before yeah before we go we should ask the question we always this is our second episode
Starting point is 02:02:03 we should ask the question we always ask which This is our second episode. We should ask the question we always ask, which is, are we better off for having seen this? This is, of course, a show about things that I haven't seen. And we need to know, like, are you glad that you've seen it or could you have died without seeing it? Could have died without seeing it, go to save. What do you guys think?
Starting point is 02:02:24 Yeah, I'm pretty much good to die whenever I am really glad that I saw it is one of the most diseased creations I've ever seen yeah when Rick and Morty show up you're like,
Starting point is 02:02:45 this is sick. Something's wrong here. And I am glad for that reason that I saw it. I had a good time. I thought LeBron was good. Way better than Michael. The idea of Michael Jordan being in this script was really funny.
Starting point is 02:03:01 Like Michael Jordan dressed up. He didn't acknowledge his kids on screen. But his kids are screen but his adults or his kids are all adults now and he's treating them exactly like this like I want to go
Starting point is 02:03:10 to E3 video game camp he's like no could you imagine if they had to try to convince Michael Jordan to put on a Mad Max
Starting point is 02:03:18 costume to sit behind a green screen even for one second you think they could have got him to do it I don't think so B i don't think what are we what are we doing here well guys thanks so much by the way you didn't get my answer which is unfortunately i could have died without seeing this i am not glad i saw it oh i loved talking
Starting point is 02:03:38 about it with you guys uh that was nice and yeah i guess i'm glad i saw it although while i was watching it i i really was pretty bored and was like, this time is just burning away. But I did try to ask you at the very beginning, Scott, whether about the first one, did you think the first one was any good? I remember it being kind of funny and fun, but I did not really think it was that good.
Starting point is 02:04:04 But in retrospect, after having watched this way better I would rather watch that again it was yeah it was definitely better right okay and just because it was it was it was a lot like Joe Rogan in the sense of it was famously short famously short yeah that's right and the Looney Tunes in this one are legitimately not funny at all it's no it's crazy yeah so i so that happened for all the progress they made with yes that's right their sense of humor granny says haters gonna hate oh there's a whole rap section we didn't even talk about where the looney i was hoping we didn't have to talk about it, to be honest. That part made me so sick.
Starting point is 02:04:48 Sorry, we brought this up. Yeah, I did say that it was a James Corden-style rap. And that I was very disappointed when we talked about it because we watched the clip on Flagrant Ones. And I do think that why not just have when he picks up the mic to rap, what if
Starting point is 02:05:04 you had like Method Man come in to do something. That would have been so fucking cool if he went like hang on let me adjust the mic a little bit. He clears his throat real fast. Yeah like that would have been great. Why does it have to be so corny? Yeah I thought
Starting point is 02:05:19 it was funny that Tweety dressed like Slick Rick. I thought that was funny. Alright so there was some good in it. That was something. If we take one thing away from it it's Tweety dressed as Sl rick i thought that was funny okay all right so there was some good something if we take one thing away for a minute it's tweety dressed as slick rick throw it on a long t-shirt for you yeah throw it on a long t-shirt and we could wear this thing and then it would be how do you know what slick rick looks like he has that eye patch he's got the eye patch and the big gold chain for some reason i was thinking the humpty guy digital underground guy didn't he also have
Starting point is 02:05:45 an eye patch maybe yeah I don't know a lot of people getting poked in the eye back in the 80s really I mean
Starting point is 02:05:51 yeah eye patches were big in the 80s and 90s right now Dan Crenshaw he's the only guy rocking one yeah
Starting point is 02:05:56 oh I don't want to get in trouble like SNL Pete Davidson I don't want to say you have to come on the next episode okay so join us for the next episode where Dan Crenshaw is going to guest.
Starting point is 02:06:11 Well, guys, thanks so much for watching this. We appreciate it. We know it was sort of tortured. We sort of wanted to torture. I liked it. Well, it was still sort of tortured. The fact that you like it is sort of some kind of crazy, you know, your mind played tricks on you. And I guess we can answer the question. Do we think the guys drop the bit at any time? Yeah. Do you guys, this is real. And I've, I've talked about this on Bang Bang a bit. And anytime Carl Tard is on, I ask him, do you guys ever drop the act?
Starting point is 02:06:40 I thought we were very charming on this episode. I thought we were totally normal. This question is actually very insulting. You know, you might be right. You might be right, to be honest. You might be right. You guys were sort of more like your real selves. We were so cool. I was funny and nice, yeah. Yeah, funny and nice and chill.
Starting point is 02:06:59 Four real guys here just hanging out on Zoom. Well, thanks a lot, guys. This has been fun. And we'll catch you guys next week on Scott Hasn't Seen. Thanks for listening. This is Spraggy Baby, of course, and next week, the movie we will be watching
Starting point is 02:07:15 is The Addams Family. The creepy and the spooky. Scott Hasn't Seen.

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