Hollywood Handbook - Jake and Amir, Our Goodbye Headgum Friends

Episode Date: February 24, 2026

It's the end of an era as The Boys are joined by JAKE HURWITZ and AMIR BLUMENFELD to say goodbye to Headgum. Get a Hat Pack Hat here!Watch the video of today’s episode at Patreon.com/HollywoodHandbook This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Hollywood Handbook via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a headgum podcast. That's funny. Kevin says rolling, rolling, rolling. Like when we're about to record. But also, the audience is rolling, rolling, rolling, when we have these guests on the show because they're so funny all the time. Rolling a floor laughing my ass off.

I was rolling, I was rolling around on the floor, laughing my entire ass off. Just talking to these guys, they're just talking normal, but they're so, there's something about the rhythm of these. guys that's so funny. Their ideas. Yes. Well, their ideas are a little bit out there.

They're a little bit twisted. And you guys have done that. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy sometimes. The stuff that's in their head, because you probably can't even enjoy it, can you? Jake hasn't said anything since we got on the Zoom. So I'm wondering where you get the, we were making you crack. I said you have done that. Not today.

Not today. I felt it because Jake actually. I didn't say you guys are doing that. Yeah. Jake was being a little. funny. He was picking right up on things. He was small, it was subtle, but I wonder, and that's kind of my humor. Like, I like

this stuff that's kind of in the margins. It's not so in your face, plastic. Right. The ugly parts of the game. Cheeky asides. Yeah, yeah. I kind of nerd out on some of the really minor. What's an example? What's your favorite video? Well, I think, oh, of your videos? Or anything, because we've only basically done videos. Right. Right.

Live shows, I guess. I like the ones where you watch yourself watching the videos from college humor. Yeah, yeah. And so it's like- The re-watches. No, no, no, no. The re-watching. The re-watch re-watches.

Yeah, it's you guys watching yourself. Because like some of those re-watch videos are like a couple years old now. Oh, older, yeah. And some of those have become classic. in their own right. They inspire a bit. That's entirely new. So maybe time, you know, to to really

unpack some of those. And rewatch some of the rewatches of those rewatches. Yeah. Three layers in. I think that could be really powerful. And moving slower, you know? The thing we can't do is leave any of these videos in the past. The thing that must not happen is

we cannot leave any of these videos in the past. Meaning, like, we have to always be re-watching some version of them, even if it is us re-watching them. Never forget style. Right. Because there are 800 Jake and Amir episodes, and then that would mean there's like 400 Jake and a mirror rewatch episodes because we watch two every single time. And now we're getting into the next phase, which is us watching the watching videos.

Watching four rewatch videos per we watch. Every single episode. So that would make 50. No. Okay. Even if it did, though. Think about having 50 of those. I see that, populate my feed.

Make $50,000. I go, hey, honey, you want to go on a road trip somewhere? Because I need some excuse to just be a captive audience with the... Watching the video on your phone while you drive. Yeah. You can't plug in the phone while it's playing a video. It won't show it to you. you'd have to unplug, not use the GPS and just watch it sort of loose while you drive,

which I guess doesn't matter for you because it seems like you know where you're going or something. Is this freaking car talking? What's that? What's this for the freaking show? Car talking. Jake loves Car Talk. Yeah, I love Car Talk. I'm a huge car talk fan.

Okay. This is not Car Talk. Amirton. Car Talk was hilarious. Well, I don't love what. I feel like we were having a nice conversation. He ground it to a halt. I was just saying plugging it.

By the way, most, I mean, modern cars are like airplay. I bet these guys have cars. You can't, yeah, but you can't airplay a video. You can't airplay a video, right? No, I mean, you can't, you can't watch it on the, this is so mundane. You can't watch it on the dash. That's what I'm saying. You can have the navigation going while the video is playing on your phone.

Let's, I. Let's enjoy the episode for a moment. Yeah, because I think it's become a little contentious. pretty early on. I know you guys hate that. Yeah, that wasn't certainly what I wanted to do today. Not today.

Here's what I want to talk about today. We, me and Sean, we love you guys. Yeah. And we are in love with you. Okay. This is not about you.

Mm-hmm. What's going on, no matter how much you would like to make it a thing that has you at the very center of it, this is not about you. Not today. Us moving on is about we are doing that. What's that? You're doing, where are you guys going? We are doing moving on. Where is that from where to where?

From here down the street. moving down the street. We're going down the street. Yes. Down the street. Yeah. We're taking a little walk down the street. No way. We're going to have a dog. And I want to say again, we love you. Okay. We are in love with you as well. It's both. And those are two different things.

Our experience here has been basically like a 24-hour mind-numbing orgasm. Okay. So why would you ever leave that? That sounds like. incredible. Well, sometimes you're having an orgy and you need a water break. Like, you can be having an break, I understand, but to leave the orgy. We just need to go get a glass of water. Yes. Where are the glasses?

You know, you're in the, you're in the orgy. And there's, is there like a big pile and you're just like, where are the glasses? To drink. Where do you guys keep the glass? I looked above the same. Do you have a jelly glass? It's just like cereal bowls. Area.

Yeah. Do you have something? Are they, are the ones in the dry? drying rack? Are those okay? Are those clean? Is that all right? Yeah, I can't tell. Some of them don't look clean, but I don't know if they're just old. You end up filling just this little gravy boat with water. I'm taking it one spoonful at a time.

I've got a very shallow spoon that I keep just refilling and sipping from it. Then you try to get back in and you can't really find purchase. You know what I mean? I go, kind of like skittering around the outside. I know that was my spot. Certainly not going to be anymore. Can I just,

can I just scoop by you? Sorry. You're in my spot. My G spot. Yeah. You're in my spot. You're in your ass. Sorry, Jake, let me get this off.

He said it twice. Let me get it off at third time. Without a buddy. Let's get it off. I'm at the RG. I want to get back. I took a break. And then I go, I go, excuse me. And you know,

Dick, tip. tapping on the shoulder. You're in my spot. My G spot. That's your G spot? You're in my G spot? Yeah, it's a... It's a good...

This is like a game where he... He does this every once in a while where he just like... I want to understand everything. No, I thought like... I want to laugh at it. I just want to understand. You know...

You're in my G-spot? Or like... Yeah. I know, and I know you don't want... want to confront this and I know this is how you respond to conflict. I don't feel conflicted at all. Yeah. Well, I'm totally happy for you guys.

I think there's some probably some big feelings coming up hearing we're going down the street, which by the way is not about it's nothing negative. It's my organs were from the orgasm that we'd been having where it's literally they had. The orgasm that we were having the mind-numbing 24-hour orgasm was was sucking fluids that were necessary for other systems to operate out of the body. Yes. It's like, yeah, it's really dangerous. Dehydrated.

Beyond that, like, I had to use some insulin and stuff. The human man's body is 98% water. Uh-huh. And by the time you guys were done with us, it was 0.000-0-908%. Yeah. Okay. You gave it all. and well.

We empty. There was a little bit. Yeah, if you heard there was a little bit. Right. Yeah. But it was very dangerous. And so, like,

I think it's probably hard, maybe for Amir especially. Yeah. To feel the feelings that come up when someone is, when someone is leaving, and he wants it to be a fight. He wants to push us out. Not at all.

Right. Yeah, mostly it wants it to be about him. But I wonder if you, I wonder if he feels small. I think there's, there's an element of Amir feels small. So he wants to hear about your car and say, who would know better? Who would know better than you, whether Amir feels small, YouTube partners for 50 rewatch, rewatch episodes at this point.

Thank you for watching. You know, having been, oh, I, try and stop me. Thank you for making them. Thank you for making them. It's so silly. Yeah, it's so fun. So we are moving down the street. Kevin, I mean, I don't want to, I just want to be like straight about this.

This was like mainly like a Kevin. Kevin basically held a knife to our throats. So you got, if it was up to you guys, you'd stay? The money is like whatever to me. Like, negligible. I guess there's money. They offer like another couple bucks. And Kevin says like this will make me like a Pittsburgh billionaire.

Yeah. like you know he's going to pitts he's like the chuds in that town are going to worship me like a fucking god he's been talking about two nickel to rub between the treatons that populate that area and he said that he's going to be the the Pittsburgh

passenger princess I guess leas going to be driving all the time when he's there and that he just feels like he's going to be able to afford a really nice car and yeah he's going to yeah maybe when that has apple airplay so you can listen uh to a video while you're driving oh yes I didn't mean to bring up cars. I know that triggers a music. And I know you can listen to the video. That wasn't the issue.

I really think the video won't play. Like it doesn't even let you FaceTime. If you recall, I asked Honey if she wanted to take a drive. So Honey might be driving. Got it. Your shotgun. Yeah. That's actually pretty sexist of you. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And Kevin with this, you know, the extra $150, he's going to get out of this deal. It was it only $150? He's going to have matched that very coal miners running alongside the card describing him what's happening in the podcast. Like whatever. Whatever he wants.

Literally they will do anything for a tiny little piece of that $150. Oh, he's not even getting the full 150. I feel like he could have matched that. No, no, no, no. Believe me. We went back and forth on this. He ended up with the full 150.

Yeah. We fought for us to get some of it. too, but you guys are not even making more money at all. Yeah, but for us, it's never been really about that. So what is it? Why are you are leaving it, but it's not about the money. I am curious. Is it entirely about the, you know, the, the, this, this, like, the sex of it, feeling like you've had it. It's not entirely that. For me, I don't want to speak for Hayes. They, I'll just tell you guys, they got this table over there. Oh, my God. Wait, who is they? What are you talking about? What is this table, who are you guys talking about? The table has the microphones in it so you can sit at the table.

It's like that earwolf vibe. Do they like sign the table and stuff like that too? I never cared about that part. It was just having a table. Having a table. We got a table right here. I feel like we could have got a, well, we could have gotten a table. I would have thought you could too. I would have thought that was available. And the table, the height of the table here, I remember the conversation when we first started here that the table is this high so if you need to show brain on the show

you can do that. Brain. Different shows have a thing where they want to do. Do you want to hang brain? Just like hang a little brain just for like a second make it look like an accident. That's something you can you can do. Like have your dick out a little bit. I think it's a nut

I don't think the brain is, yeah. Scrotum. It's like all wrinkled up like a brain. Just write down whatever you don't understand. Like some brains. I'm really caught up mostly except for the G-spot thing. I feel like everything else has been clarified. The video thing at the car, I guess you can do, but I'm skeptical.

The brain, I guess, is the nuts, but I am curious about you're in my spot. Okay. The source of all human life. And P. Show that to everybody. Just for a second, every single episode. Okay. If that's what you want to do.

we didn't really capitalize on that. That wasn't as crucial to us, but you have to accommodate a lot of different shows. We're not Adam Conover. That's just not what we do. Check out the brain on Adam. Big brain energy. Sactually.

So we just didn't end up taking advantage. Yeah. Of the... It was a different... Of what Hedgum had to offer. energy than we planned on coming into the show with and I think that disconnect. Is that what headgum means too? Because it kind of looks like a little chewed up piece of gum.

A head gum is a, yeah, is. You know how it looks like that? There's gum inside your brain. There's gum inside your head that is your brain in the way. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You named it, Jake?

Yeah, technically I did. Amir, how does it feel to hear Jake say that? We had, yeah, we had hundreds of pitches. Yeah. I don't know how far. Oh, this is interesting. What's your favorite pitch that didn't get picked? Yeah.

I think we liked Trustfall. We liked, there was like a fort, playful kid energy, like, tree ford. Rumpus Room. Treehouse. Yeah. Jake has, he's pulling up. Actually, I have a bunch of pitches from Amir. Let me pull these up.

All right. And this was like no bad idea, blue sky, say whatever you want. We'll figure it out later. This was not like my best in final. Okay, but we are actually asking for what you think is your best in final. Once I hear it, I'm going to hear some examples and you can pick one. And if some of them are good, I think we just let it go without comment. We don't need to be like poking at like, oh, why did you think of that?

Just not respond at all. Because it is seemingly simple, but kind of. Kind of hard, like if you guys can come up with a few samples yourself right now, just so you can see how difficult it is to come up with like a brand new incredible blue dork. Yeah. Blue dork.com. Blue dork? Blue dork. And this was before Lou dork.

So I wasn't like, this was 2014. But it was after Blue Chew. Yes. Which is why we ultimately didn't. You also, you listed vitamin R. Vitamin R. I wonder what that would have been. What that was about?

What is the R for? And this is without judgment. I don't remember. I think I was just trying to think of a letter that wasn't already taken by a vitamin. Vitamin X sounds like sexy. Yeah, I mean, I guess vitamin L would be like, vitamin, listen to this, you know,

like something like that. I'm trying to think what the R, is it the recording process? Yeah. That's not really. Yeah, it must have been recording. Here's the ones that are around headgum. We have dope force, dope force.

I'm not sure what that one is. drug thing. Dunbone. Dun bone. D-O-N-E? Yeah. That's kind of interesting. You're listening to

Dun-bone podcast. Why is that? You done-boned us. Okay. So that makes it sound like we did kind of do something wrong. Because you came in not hot but cold saying that we were awesome,

that we did everything right, that it was like a 24-hour orgy. Oh, so that's what love is to you. You can't love someone unless they do everything right. Wow. No one can ever make a mistake or then suddenly you'll be out of love. Because we love you guys in love with you.

I feel sorry for a certain sub what. How did we bone you? Yeah, how did we bone you? You say we done boned you. I said it felt like you done boned me. Yeah. Boned us. It felt like you don't bone me.

Yeah. Jake, at this point, I wish that you wouldn't keep reading the, yeah. It's sort of chumming the antagonism in here. Brainy Wave? I don't hate Brainy Wave. We also got Doodley. What was the last one?

Doodley? Doodley. Doodley. Oh, dude. L.Y. Here's a good one. You're going to work here comfortable. Green laugh.

Oh. What do you guys think about green laugh? Green laugh turned. Eco-sheek a little bit. Green laugh. The eco-sheek element. Yeah, right? Yeah, that's such a defining,

of this studio. Well, we didn't end up going with it. I know. I know. And I feel like it was a branding mistake to not, like, signal what the product is. I don't hate vitamin R. Yeah, vitamin R you like. Intriguing, almost.

You really wanted a color involved in the name, it seems like. Yeah. The blue chew one earlier. Blue Dork. Yeah. Blue Dork. Green laugh. Green laugh.

It was just. There's also green cast and holy cheese. Holy cheese. Holy cheese isn't bad. I don't hate Holy cheese either. Just because it's easy to say. It's funny. It sounds like something the Dave Barry would say is a good band name.

But you, and once again, this is not about you, this move that we're making. And I will say, can I ask actually? I guess I won't. Can I ask something? Yeah. These were Amir's pitches that you had, but Jake, Did you have some pitches other than headgum that didn't get picked? Yeah, it looks like I did.

I have a good game team, really solid. Oh, wait, it looks like dope force might have been mine. Oh, there was dope face and dope force was mine. Unfortunately, I did send an email with a bolded pitch for Dunbone. So Dunbone was you. Because I feel like I took a lot of the brunt. That was your idea. It doesn't. I compiled a list.

So it wasn't necessarily for me. I might have been. But the bolding is yours. I mean, you compiled the list. I did back it. Yeah, I backed it. Now I'm curious who came up with vitamin or if I like it. Just say it.

Just say what it stands for. I'm done. Like, either either say what it stands for, though. We all know what it is. You keep bringing it back around to it. You want to do it. Do it. The floor is yours.

We're out of here. I'm not going to be at the studio, so when it gets, you know, vaporized by the radical left. Go ahead. Or are you done? I'm just saying, I kind of dig the... It's vitamin Republican. Amir wanted to get out ahead of what has become the most powerful podcasting audience there is. Yes.

Which is the right-wing manosphere. another artwork. And you wanted it to be vitamin Republican and you wanted to kind of collect all those people and then when you got overruled by Jake with his headgum created the situation we're in now. Yeah. Where I think you're probably hopefully a little more proud of the content you put out but let's face it. It's not going great.

But I think it can. I think we can get there. Oh my God, we can. And the fact that I mean, I just, I mean. Well, he said something he wanted to say. Oh, yeah. This is what I want to say. When we had internally announced that we were moving on with love and being in love. And then.

Very respectful email that Kevin sent. Literally 30 seconds after we make that announcement, you guys put together like a hastily designed notes app style. Include, no, I'm sorry. You're skipping. a step. When we submitted that to you. I'm always doing that. I'm so fucking sorry. You're skipping a step, I know.

Which is crucial. I know. We were also respectfully given the freedom to leave with one request. Can you keep it a secret? Don't tell anybody. Please. Hey, don't say you're leaving. We go,

little weird it's my life but of course it's literally my job to talk about my life after this massive bus to share my world of course but okay I guess I'll violate like my core principle I didn't totally understand why but I went against

everything I've ever promised my audience in terms of transparency and honesty and it was soon revealed to us why that request was made and now Hayesmaker. Literally 30 seconds later. 30 seconds. When your announcement goes up that we are not actually breaking up with you,

you're breaking up with us. Unrelated. And you get to blast that out to the entire world because we have been asked to withhold this information until you can get your ass out in front of it. So a little bit of an announcement Breaking up with Sean and Hayes They did not dump us We actually are the ones in the power position

And it was our choice Not theirs and don't ask them And we're like flapping in the breeze That's why you feel like you got done boned Yes That was when I feel like I got done bone When actually we did break up with you And we

It was with love Oh my God It was people grow apart, you know? And it's like we're supposed to change. That's actually a good thing that people change. And there's still love

there so much. But we also have to spread our wings and embrace this new identity we've discovered while we were here. Which in a way is the old identity, which is table guys. Yeah. It's really a lot about the

table, right? The table guys. I wonder if we could have just moved Mike's into the conference room. I think that was suggested at one point. I think that was suggested by someone. What's the name of your new venture? So ours is called J&A Studios, but I'm trying to lobby

to change the name to vitamin R. So is it a plan A&E? All like arts and entertainment. The sense are jerking off and all over the place. Sorry? I knew people were going to make that mistake. And also, like, knowing about your process, how you, like, go through, like, a thousand different horrible names before you arrive at what that just, like, seems good compared to all the others. That is fine.

It's just so obvious that, like, this was a first thought that you needed to get out there now, today. It wasn't as rushed as you guys were making it out to be. that statement that you said was hastily put together in it like a notes app style thing. That's not how it went down. Okay. Yeah, that was a series of. So it was premeditated. We just heard about 300 different names for headgum and then JNA Studios.

I mean, I don't think I have to tell you guys. That's your initials. Yeah, that's why it's called that. Yeah, but it wouldn't be if you had like a little bit of time. The name would be different. I think so. What do you think it could be? I mean, for starters, I would call it...

For starters, I would call it green guy. The colors, yeah. Now it does seem... I would call it green guy, not even one studio. Green guy. Because I've seen how you guys are, like, recording stuff. Like, you're just doing it at home. And so, but instead you're implying that you have not just studio, but studios.

Well, Jake's in a studio right now. Yeah, I'm in a studio in New York and Amir's in a... a studio in LA. So it's, yeah, but this isn't a studio. That may be J studio, but this isn't and a studio. J. Studio and A.

No studio. Yeah, I try to lift him up. And this is Hegum. It's not. J. Studio and A bathroom. Not a bathroom. Actually, I just got to the last email in the Headgum brainstorm.

Amir on April 3rd, 2023. Oh, wait. That's much later. Oh, okay. Amir on April 3rd. 2014. I like Mrs. Fart.

This is 2014, huh? You just have to remember that that was a different time. And the gender stuff, the Me Too stuff hadn't really like, hadn't really been happening yet. Unrelated to that. Calling... Mrs. Fart.

Is it a joke that... Calling a man-owned project, Mrs. Fart, was something that, again, it's hard to remember this. That's something that would actually not get you assassinated in the street. It was at that time. It was okay.

It may have saved you guys some heartache to call it Mrs. Fart. How's that? I just think we would have gotten a J&A studios a lot faster. We would have left earlier. The journey just would have. It missed. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It might have failed or would have. Yeah. I think so. I think so. That's fair. What's in a name, you know? Yeah.

Quite a bit, it seems. So what else can we expect? I mean, like, you know, let's use this time to talk about what's next for each of us. Like, you know, we are changing. Well, where you guys are going, is there any appetite there for more content? Like, I know you're talking to some of the higher ups there. they were able to move you over. Is there still like some roster spots?

Quote unquote of avail or even on avail? That is, we never touched on that. Any of our discussions? Yeah. We are on a 10 day. Oh, really? It's that fast. Yes.

So you could be back in here two weeks from now. Yeah, we currently are basically have a two-way deal. Not to call head gum the G-League, but we're, but we are popping back in The G-Spot League. That's funny. I mean, Amir won't like it. He doesn't know what that is, but that's funny. He gets really confused by that kind of conversation. Right. Breadcrumbs. You're more of a Mrs. Fart guy. I really think the Mrs. Fart email was me illuminating that that was not a good idea, and so I was sort of doubling down on it.

It's hard in text to find the tone. It may have been. sarcasm, I guess. Amir's especially. I'm just like a thumbs up. React. I have no idea. On to the next one. I got other shit I gotta do.

I can't be like, what do you mean? What are you trying to say? I do know what a G spot is. What is it? You know what it is? Go forth. It could be nice for the audience to have Amir to define the G spot on our

sort of farewell to head gum episode. To my knowledge, You have the floor. It's a, it feels so scientific and cold to discuss. But honestly think.

Let me just say, you do not have to describe it that way. Right. No, I know. I actually would describe it with as much, like,

soul and feeling, in addition to the science, don't leave out the science. There's room for poetry in science as well, yes. I guess it's like this is crazy that I'm even

fucking attempting to do this and borderline brave I guess but I'll let the commenters decide whether this is quote unquote real courage or not on this episode got it so I think it's an erogenous zone is that safe to say within the anatomy

of the female um the the, like, within the vagina, there's a spot. I don't even think it's like an official science spot as much as it is like an area or... So now you're guessing. It feels like you were, you jumped into define it,

but now you're saying it feels like an area. I don't want to misspeak as all. Maybe we could just start with what the G stands for. That's a great question. The G spot. Green laugh. He was so fast for that. That was good.

I like the way you guys build each other and like still amazed by each other after all this still discovering each other yeah I don't find some people go like that's condescending with his comedy partner of whatever 20 plus years that he's going like wow that was quick yeah like that he didn't expect

when it wasn't even that quick yeah it was like something we've already we've been circling kind of this one joke area for he already did it um but It's a callback on a callback.

But some people would say like, oh, that's trouble in paradise. I actually see it for what it is, which is just a really healthy mutual respect between the two of you guys. Appreciate it. That is what has made this thing work. And it's going to make J&A Studios work. If anything really healthy mutual respect is the R and vitamin R if you think about it. It's that vitamin, that sort of... Vitamin respect.

Yeah. I have capacity for wondering what one single initial letter stands for. And it's either the R or the G. You know that, yeah. So I got, like, I need, like, I need one of those settled. And I prefer you do say what the G stands for. I really couldn't even posit a guess as to what the G and G spot. I mean, is it?

It's Gatorade. So what kind of stuff can we expect? Yeah, no, sketches. It is. We want to get back in the making shit with our hands, like the idea of like making new Jake and Amir videos again. That's an exciting proposition. It would be Jake or me. The way we do it sort of on the day is like we direct each other. There's no third voice in the room. But it's not just Jake and Amir sketches. It's also the Hedgham sketches that sort of ground to a halt here. We could pick those back up, more podcast, bonus things, trials and errors and one-off podcast. podcast ideas, just the idea of turning and it's like... Will we be re-watching any of the headgum sketches that ground to a halt? That's a great idea. Yeah.

Because some of those sketches are now 10 years old. Could be fun. That's insane. Time, huh? She will do it, do you? Mrs. Fart is old enough to vote. I hope they make you laugh at your new place. Oh, I have no doubt that they will.

that they will. Really? I have no doubt. I mean, we love to laugh. Casey's there. Casey's there, yeah,

I was going to say. You know? Damn. A little bit of a... Mm-hmm. Now, that is the first we're hearing of that. So that's a bit of a... I told him.

That's a breach of contract. Yeah. He's not, he is not supposed to be allowed to work ever again. Because we had a non-compete and that... We have a 10-year non-compete on Casey. Mm-hmm. he's supposed to move out of LA

as far as I knew it's borderline and restraining order and it's interesting you guys bring up that he's working down the street is it true that Casey was Mrs. Fart? Again we can't even talk

about that kind of stuff so it's insane that yes the global restraining order that was imposed on it he doesn't give a fuck he's going to score a little bit

he said I don't give a fuck I will say in terms of him not giving a fuck, he may be honoring the non-compete in some ways because there's no competition element to what he's doing. Never feels like he's competing, you know, even against himself. He's just kind of there. Interesting. There's no competitive spirit.

No. No. So that's my dog. He's there. Some other guys are there. and oh god are you comfortable saying where you're going we are going to i guess what you would prefer to call i fart media

studios yeah yeah i missus fart media radio studio which one is it again you like always act like you have to choose well i'm curious what the official place is called Is it I heart radio?

I heart media. I heart studios. I believe it has been expanded to. They heard about some other kinds of media on the radio. Is it NBC or is it universal? It's like, it's a family. Yeah, we're in a family together. Got it.

And is it really just down the street? Small town, you know what I mean? Seems like a big city till you're in it. It's a small town. You find out it's a small town. Just a hop down main street. say hi to the butcher man It's a little bit closer to me

Was that any Did that help? Didn't hurt Further from Hayes I assume Did not hurt Yeah but I could I could use a little Tongue out of a house

I see Take a little walk Can you walk there? I mean you can walk anywhere Yeah You ever seen Forrest Gump Yeah any good

yeah I loved it it was awesome what my favorite part it's on my list favorite part I really like when he was like the montage of him

meeting the presidents like when he told JFCK he really had to pee mm-hmm was that done in montage so you did see it I'm asking

I think it was he's like I met a lot of presidents and then it seems like J.F.K. Cutting through time in a way that from a storytelling perspective would not make sense. Yeah.

Just for my idea of how I would make the movie, I wouldn't sort of collapse those airs. Yeah, I think that comes at the end of, he does the ping pong tournament and he plays for the president and he drinks all the soda. And then he would meet JFK. And then like, I kick off a montage. So like, for example, if he meets LBJ later, that would imply that he, from a storytelling perspective. He meets Kennedy, then meets Lyndon Baines Johnson to accept an award for being injured in Vietnam, and then goes and fights in Vietnam later in the movie. I just feel like it

could kind of tip what happens in the Vietnam sequence if you're showing... You did montage through that if he showed his injured ass cheek. You know so many details about the movie. The injured ass cheek was so specific. Well, it's like you eat, if you eat in the restaurant enough, you can, you accumulate like the story, just like in little pieces and from how the food tastes. Like at Bubba Gump. Shrimp. It's called Forest Gump.

Really? Yes, the name of the movie is Forest Gump. You just said you like it. You're confusing bubble gum? Yes. No, Bubba Gump. Shrimp. The restaurant based on the movie.

The character's name is Forest Gump. Head gum, bubble gum. bubble gum forest gum forest gum forest green forest gum shrimp gump shrimp gumpiny forest green

that could be interesting yeah he said it yeah I was responding to it no green laugh yeah green laugh green laugh green laugh oh that was so fast Jake really yeah I got whip lash over here yeah there he is

you guys know like you done that kind of feedback it's hard over Zoom especially if you're the only person over Zoom well all you do is over Zoom but when it's three people that should be that could actually be an interesting tagline for your new venture all we do is over Zoom

all we do is over Zoom it's hard over Zoom just so we're all JNA Studios it's hard over Zoom can you grade us on a bit of a scale yeah a curve can we get a little bit of a yeah

we got kind of like we're working with like a weighted bat here Yeah. You bump us up a couple points. That'd be cool. Well, yeah, what are those sports that do like degree of difficulty? So the sketches are on Zoom? You're going to launch back into sketches and the sketches will be done.

We'll do those in person, you know. Who's coming to who? Right. It's got to be a given poll. It'll be a mix. Yeah, you're going to come to New York. Oh, my God. Jake wants to come to New York.

I'm afraid it's too cold over there. Jake's coming to L.A. We're going to do some over here. So a little bit of both. I mean, I am coming to L.A., but you haven't committed to coming to New York. I already have a ticket to Los Angeles. He's got a child, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, I have to leave my kit to make sketches. And you kind of don't really have anything to live for. Anything at all, right? Yeah. But also nothing that I need to leave either. Like when you have a child, I assume it's a little bit liberating to just not have to deal with a kid for a little bit, right? You don't walk.

Yeah, exactly a long walk. Yeah. You can walk anywhere. Well, I mean, yeah, that, I think I'm going out. Walk to L.A. A walk would be nice to work. Where are you going? Don't wait up.

Where am I going to J&A Studios? The state of mind. Favorite headgun memories. I mean, would love to hear a few highlights if you guys got any. Even like what comes to me. If these couches could. talk hear smell

remember the Jeffrety live stream yeah that was fucking that was what do you think about that it was it was

interesting as it's happening yeah to know it was over you know what I mean that we were not going to be doing another one of these one of none yes

this is in my in my head you know is this playing out my head all I'm hearing is

done boat really this shit is done boat I like that everyone was mad you know what I mean you hate to feel like

you're the only one that's mad yeah nobody wants to be the one grump in a room a room full of happy boys then you go maybe it's on me a lot of other people seem more mad than I was

I think about I mean we just we had Paul Fieg on the show a few weeks go he was on Zoom. One that hard. Just what I was like. It can't be hard over Zoom, but sometimes it's not.

Not in my experience. It actually can't be. Right. And we're just chopping it out afterwards. And we're like, just like, you want to just roll through? So like after the episode's recorded, he's in Palm Springs, but he gets in his car and like, he's here and like,

whatever, hour and a half. Two hours. Yeah, 90 minutes. That makes a really good time. An hour and a half. He's got a nice car. Yeah. And we just, like, put each other's clothes on and just, like...

Where was that? He's one of my favorite headgum memories. Kind of behind the... There's, like, a curtain there that you can kind of go behind and, like, put each other's... Drop behind the curtain, then you kind of reveal yourself in, like, Hayes' clothes, or I'm in Paul's clothes. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's probably number one for me.

Everything else is in a tie for second slash... last place. I remember the time, so like, I had really gotten used to here washing my hands in the sink with dishwasher soap. Mm-hmm. Because this was

like, this is a dishwasher soap studio. I was told that over and over again. We used dishwasher soap for everything. You have to squeeze the pot. Squeeze the pod. Yeah. Yeah.

Until it bursts. And then you very quickly have to get it off. And I do remember about nine days ago when the hand soap showed up for the first time. And I realized what it was all about. It was like putting me in a place where I was like getting better. You know, like the friction was like improving me. and like destroying my hands obviously. But like I really learned to appreciate

what I would have taken for granted if it had just been here when I first showed up. Instead of literally right after we announced that we were not going to be returning. Being at HeadGum builds character, I think it's safe to say. Builds characters welcome. The door.

The door. The door. we're going to miss the door the key card the key card well you you haven't been here for a minute Jake it's not key cards anymore they changed it

really body scan body scan honestly like when you think about like what gets you into Hollywood you know might as well get used to it it's an up and down body scan

and they say come on in or maybe just stay outside wow that's the big business. Damn. Amir, are you guys going to get the soccer team at J&A Studios? The soccer team? The women's soccer team at. Oh, sorry. You mean the podcast that we did with Tobin and Kristen?

Yes. No, that's moving on from headgum. They're doing their own thing. You did kind of a who's coming with me thing. No. The women's soccer team was like... It wasn't the women's soccer team. We're Gucci, actually. No, they left. I think you sent Tobin a lot of unanswered DMs, right?

Yeah. Unrelated to their leaving, though. Yeah. They were using headgum as a production space, and now they wanted to do something a little closer to the west side. You were like, who's coming with me? And they were like, could you actually move out of the way? We were already leaving.

Yeah, no, they left years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who's left? We have.

Who's here? Yeah. Right. Who's going to be at HeadGum after this? Mm-hmm. Nunya? Yeah. I guess that's true.

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