Hollywood Handbook - Jason Biggs, Our Close Friend

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

The Boys help JASON BIGGS figure out what's next for him and discuss his directorial debut Untitled Home Invasion Romance. Get a Hat Pack Hat here!   Check out Sean and Hayes’s bonus shows at Patreon.com/HollywoodHandbook   Listen on the iHeartRadio App!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I hear it. I hear the song. It's so funny. I have no memory of how I got here. Like in this room? Well, don't interrupt him. Sorry. The thing you're saying, Hayes, is so self-explanatory.

There's almost no question anyone could ask. But Jason, go ahead. You had something to say? No, no, no. There's no question. How I got in this room, I mean, I remember, like, I remember being asked what my, what on-camera beverage I wanted. And I said black coffee.

And before that, I remember what I had for dinner last night. Wow. And in between? The whole space in between is not. You were checking your watch? Yeah, it's a nice watch. It was checking it because there was a whole day that happened today. And you don't recall anything.

I got to have to dig your word before. for it because I don't remember one single thing. So when I say like how I got here, I mean like I extend that back to dinner last night. What did you have for dinner last night? Porridge. For dinner? Forage for dinner, yeah.

I like breakfast for dinner. That was my wedding. We had breakfast for dinner. You had breakfast for dinner. Wow. That was the food. We did. We tried to be as unconventional as possible.

And we like breakfast any time a day. Some people travel a long way, you know. And they got breakfast. Yeah. They got cereal. bar. They're expecting kind of like a special. No, they were expecting to come to my wedding and they were lucky to be there. Wow. And where did we do the wedding? Was it at a, it was in Napa Valley? Okay. Yeah. I was going to guess that you did it on like an episode of Watch What Happens Live or something.

Okay. But that would be interesting. That would be, because you're trying to do something unexpected in a way. So like, you know, to have Andy Cohen officiates. He would say, I mix the different cereals. Yeah. take like the Captain Crunching The grains from Lucky Charms But the marshmallows from Frankenberry You know, but anything Or one that has marshmallows

Yeah, Franklinberry. Frankenberry has marshmallows. Yeah, Count Chocula, booberry. Wow, I knew that. They all have the... No, they have to. They have to. Yeah, what is it children's cereal without?

And by the way... You just mean a name one? Is it a children's cereal? You know, really. Is there such a thing as children's cereal? If the children's is eating it, but they don't have to. All the cereals. When you're eating it, it's now it's an adult man cereal.

Did you have porridge at your wedding? We did not have porridge. Did you have gruel? Yes. Grul, yeah. Yeah. That was the one we fought over. My wife and I fought over that.

Because if you grew up in certain households, that was not breakfast. Yeah. You know? Yeah. That's the one. Yeah. But we ended up, I got it in. Okay.

All right. Well, congrats to you. That's probably the last argument you ever won with your wife. First and last. First and last. Way of marriage is these days. It's different. Jason Biggs.

Not the world I grew up in. Biggsy. Jason Biggs. Jason Biggs. TV or movies rank them. You have to pick one. Okay. And the other one you also will pick, but you'll put it later in the ranking.

and give an example of each and give why. And top 10. Of my own? Don't answer yet. Okay. If your own is in there, that's you. Follow your heart. I certainly have some of yours in mind.

Oh, yeah. In your top 10? I would say, yes, my top 10 of movies. Okay. And I do put movies. Well, I won't give my whole ranking away. We're all going to do it. But he considers some movies to be TV.

Yeah, that's what I mean. Depends where I saw it. Right, if you saw it on your TV. That's TV. That's TV. Mm-hmm. And if you saw it in a theater. And if you went into a movie theater and we're watching TV.

It's movie. No, that's also TV. That has to be TV. Yeah. That makes it. TV is always TV. So even if it's on a big screen, you're not like watching a movie. You can downgrade a movie.

And they've been trying. And they've been trying. Bought a ticket to watch TV. Yeah, right, right. Number 10. Number 10. Number 10. Yep.

Wow. This is a... Did you say TV or a movie? I didn't. Yeah. I didn't specify. Okay. Yeah.

But I would... I would go with... Well, you see, Ron Howard right there. And that's... No one's ever noticed that before. Yeah, sure. Thanks. Finally.

Really? We've been waiting for someone to notice that. Soon as someone notices it, we're changing it, we said. And no one has. He wrote a note. He read... So the idea is... This is a handbook about Hollywood.

For people who are just listening, we're talking about the logo of the show, which you can find it on any podcast app. He read it. He's returning it with a note. That says. That says thanks. This helped.

And he's had a pretty esteemed career. And so that concept, you know, that he was studying our handbook. And it helped. In order to achieve it for them to be like, this helped. You go, oh, so then, Some of the credit maybe goes to us for some of the...

Sure. Well, when did he read this, I guess, is the question. Has he made a movie since he... Did he just read this or did he turn this in before Splash? I mean, it's older than 2013. We know that. Okay. Well, what has he done since 2013?

Okay. Put me on the spot. Put me on the spot. Only the best Star Wars movie of all time, solo. Mm-hmm. Okay. There you go. Tagged in for solo.

He only finally made a good fucking Star Wars movie. Oh, yeah. And by the way, probably one of the only movies ever written by a sitting vice president. Solo? Hillbilly elegy. Oh, oh, sure, sure, sure, sure. I thought you were saying solo was written by a sitting vice president. Well, I don't know who wrote that one.

You're right. I don't know who wrote that one. John Caston. John. Who could do it if he wanted to. He could be vice president if he wanted to. Yes. Well, and by the way, I don't know when this is coming out.

Maybe he will be. Yeah. You know? Well, let's time. Let's pick a release day right now. You got projects. Yeah. You got stuff lined up.

Not much. Come on, Jason. This is not the place for that false modesty. Bullshit. All right. Come on. This man is pushing a couple projects around. You have Operation Taco Gary.

Yeah. Which is a palingram. And you have Untitled Home Invasion Romance. If I could, I think it's better. I think when everyone's talking, yeah, it becomes hard.

Sorry. No, just for you. So the project comes out clearly. Can you guys say it again? Yeah, I'm going to have him say it. And then I'm going to sort of. Tell me what is the movie called? No, but

I don't want to say it. Okay. You want me to say it? Just tell me what it's called. So I can say it. Invasion, Romance. Untitled Home Alone? No.

Okay. Do you want me to say it again? Ants like A-N-T-Z? With a Z, not an S. It's unconventional. Rome ants. Yeah, that's the sort of, that's the hook. That's the thing.

Roman ants. Roman ants. Yeah. Are you not entertained? Right? Mm-hmm. Entertained. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Could be interesting. The movie's done? Yeah, the movie's done. Finish the movie. Yeah, we finished it. Picture lock. Acting and directing.

Okay, too. Is that in your glossary, in your Hollywood handbook glossary? Picture lock? That is, this is not a glossary. This is. No, but is there a glossary in the handbook?

There should be with Hollywood terms. Hollywood terms. Every word has a little entry in the glossary. Every single word. Every single word. Has a little number next to it. And then you go to the end and then look it up. You get to just.

You get to learn more. Acting and directing, Jason. Yeah. You're starring in it. Do you have trouble directing yourself? No. Isn't it funny? This makes me laugh.

I know what he's going to say. Isn't it funny? When non-acting directors try to direct actors. I know what he's going to say. I know what he's going to say. Tell actors like. It's like this.

Because some of these directors never acted a day in their life. And they come in to talk to the actors. actors. Yeah, and it's like, guys, you know what you're talking about. Yeah. It's kind of actually kind of adorable. It can be cute. It's kind of cute.

It's not infuriating. Yeah. It obviously can be very frustrating. Do you want this movie to be good? Because he's a performer. Or do you want me to listen to you? You're an actor. He's a performer.

You're a performer. I'm a performer as well. You're a performer too. I perform as well. Not an actor person. Yeah. Yeah. Not necessarily acting, but I perform.

And so. There's an acting element to it, I guess. Yeah, there's no way around it. But. I think with that experience, when we've directed, obviously, we're so sensitive to the artists. Right. And when we've been directed, it's someone without that sensitivity. Yes.

It can be. How do you handle that? How do you handle that? How do you handle that when a director is flying in? What do you say? Flying in. And has an idea. How do you react to something like that?

Or what they think is an idea. Are you just like, you know what you're going to do and you're just like nodding along until it gets over? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I kind of, I'll tell you what, the best acting of my career has been feigning interest in the right. And so that helps you get into character. Maybe we roll on him getting the notes. Yeah, exactly. No, it's some of the best work of my life.

It's you going, yeah, I'll try that. That sounds great. What a note. Oh, my, oh, that just unlocked the whole scene for me. Wish I thought of that. Yeah. And meanwhile, you did actually. Oh, that's going to help.

Yeah, yeah. I'm actually doing it. Go back and watch. I'm doing it, but I'm doing it so small. Yeah, that's how you got the idea for it. That's a movie. Because I just did the damn thing. That's right.

I wonder how you thought of that. Oh, I know. You saw my ass doing it. So that's frustrating. Yeah. But what about the. actors who you're directing who've never directed. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, that's also annoying. Mm-hmm. Yeah, because they also don't get where I'm coming from as a director. Who's filling out the cast? Yeah, so in this project, Untitled Home Invasion Romance, myself and Megan. That's the same movie as before? Yeah, that's the same movie.

That's the same movie you were talking about. Yeah, the title's doing a few different things. Okay. What's it doing? So, well, it's doing a few different things. This title is putting in work. This title, yes. It's actually keeping me guessing.

So it's untitled. Okay. I thought you said this is the title. Right. So right away, I'm on my toes and I don't really know what to expect next. Now it's untitled home invasion. Uh-oh. Oops.

Something's going to happen. That's dangerous. Right? This is scary. So I'm, now it's like, well it's a title that's named untitled so it's got me all turned around then it's home invasion now i've really got my guard up romance hang on wait a minute which can be even more dangerous which can't be more scary wow a slow motion home invasion with some of these women i mean like

you just wake up one day you know what i mean no this person was outside yeah my house for years and then and then years somehow got in and will not go. They don't go. In the morning, they don't go anywhere. Yeah. They're right there. They do, but they go out at night.

Boy, do they go out at night. Oh, no. You don't see them at all at night. Yeah. I mean, is that crazy? What is about the night for these women? Yeah. These women, they love.

Every single one. Outside at night. They love it. Then in the morning. The moon. Yep. I really do love it. That's what I don't understand because at night I'm inside.

Yeah. My porridge is actually too hot. Papa bear. Right? Right. That's very Papa Bear. Isn't it? It's very Papa Bear.

Mm-hmm. Very Papa Bear coded. Yeah. Low-key Papa Bear. Any more worlds? It's giving Papa Bear. It's giving Papa Bear. Papa Bear vibes.

Yeah. I'm getting that too. I'm picking up the same thing off of him. Yeah. With the hot porridge. Yep. Hot porridge at night. The nighttime hot porridge.

Papa bear. Starting to fill in some details, I guess. From the last 24 hours? Yeah. Talk to me. Thinking about, I think the porridge was so hot. Blackout. It basically was a, like, was a.

trigger for me for perhaps an entirely new identity. Right. That tracks. Was it the real one? The real porridge? Was it as true identity emerging that had been locked inside all the long? I mean, I think it would be like, your first assumption would be that like, I'm, the person I've been all along is the real me. That's what we think. That's what we think. That's what I would think. Or is this the mask? not the mask I put on to cool my face from the porridge that ended up taking over my personality. Right. And causing me to go out and literally howl at the moon, a big keister. Now, can I ask you, when you were out howling at the moon?

Yeah. Did you see the women? I, you know what? Can I stop? that's how I know. Excellent question. Before you even answer, Jason, where do they go? Excellent question.

Were the women out there? Were they out there? I think that's how I've accumulated this knowledge of the women's activities at night. You do seem to know what they're doing. From when I do take on this persona, this mask man, then I go out and I see the women at play. and they've welcomed me perhaps into their world. I'm running with the pack. Among the coven.

Yeah, that's interesting. God damn, that sounds like one of your movies. And then I show up here. No worse from where, maybe refreshed even. Yeah. The idea being embraced, Papa Bear being embraced by the Coven of Moon Howling Women? Is that not a movie?

Goldilocks a little bit of a untitled home invasion romance. It is titled. And the romance element is like, Like is very subtle. It's very subtle. Very subtle. Yeah. Yeah.

It's not foregrounded in that one. It's because it's for kids. It's there if you look for it. Yeah. It's for the adults. I got to try this, but I got to try this. The adults can read through. And this chicks in three different beds.

This blonde chicks at three different beds and we don't think something a little bit funny's going down. Come on, man. Right. Exactly. Mm-hmm. There's three guys whose house she went missing from, the one girl. Mm-hmm.

One big guy, one little guy, one medium guy. Yeah. And the one of the one of the one of, And one of the guys is a chick as well. Right. Well, that's, yeah. Isn't that right? You know?

I wasn't, yeah, I wasn't going to say it. We don't use the word chick. Yeah. Yeah. Who's we? And so for anyone who's only listening, we've stopped describing the logo of the show. And Jason is on sort of a saucy toast with his muck. He did a little toast.

Yeah. And I'll tell you, it disarm me completely. I don't even remember what we were talking about. a little bit. Yeah. It's true, yeah. Any more worlds to conquer? Acting.

Directing. Directed. What's left on the menu? As you order off the menu of life, like some kind of emperor, you know. And if I may suggest something, Jason, that's been left on the table, perhaps. You did how many semesters at NYU? I did one semester at NYU. Then you had another cup of coffee somewhere.

Mm-hmm. Where? At Montclair State University. Okay. And I was there for skipping a bus. Two and a half weeks. Yeah. I was there. But you and then left. You had the itch, huh? Well, I made a little scratch, too. Yes. And I scratched it. Mm-hmm. I was already a professional actor. Yeah. With representation and was auditioning. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And everyone else was, too, at college? No, no, no. It was unique to me. That seems like a problem to me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How so? I'm at college. I'm basically already doing the damn thing

that everyone else is trying to learn to do. I'm here sitting listening to teacher when I should be teaching the damn class. Right, but that's interesting. Let me clarify then. I wasn't studying acting. Okay, now that just seems stupid. Stupid. It was stupid.

You know what? Because I hated what I didn't know. I was like, oh, I'll go for something to fall back on. Yeah. Guess what? What were your studies? You fell forward. I just fell forward. You fell forward.

What were your studies? It was undeclared at the, you know, it was one semester. I was like economics. Yeah. Bad idea. Okay. Bad idea. Oh, no, maybe finance will be something interesting.

Although it could have used you. When? Just in general. The Great Recession. Mm-hmm. Sure. You don't think you stayed? at Montclair

and I see you say this now it's like oh economics economics finance stupid whatever if you love it if you love it go after it if you chose that

if that's what your heart told you at the time because in terms of becoming an actor you don't really get to choose do you no you don't really have a choice no no no life choose you no yeah if I could be doing anything else else, believe me I would.

Problem is, I go do anything else. Straight jacket, rubber room, throw away the key. Because I got to get this poison out of me. Yeah. You know? Yep. And by the way, it just so happens.

People want to pay me to do that. Okay. I guess, you know, but it's, it's not a choice. It's actually sort of a curse. I get that. Mm-hmm. I get that. But now...

Now... You did the damn thing. Yep. Yep. Is it time to go back, finish the job, get the degree? I'm sure you have a lot of people in your life who that would make very happy. Right? Maybe, yeah.

They wouldn't want to see you walk across that stage, shake with the one hand, diploma with the other, and pump your fist. All your classmates who thought you couldn't do. do it. That's, you know, I would certainly like to do it. I would like to see myself walk across that stage, pump my fist, grab a diploma. But you're scared? I'm scared. Don't want to do it alone, do you, Jason? I mean, if I had someone else, it'd probably be helpful, sure, probably be motivated to do it, but all of my friends have graduated college. What if I told you, J.B., that, that I also, did not finish my studies.

Is that true? Yeah, yeah. Did a semester, also one semester, also at a college in New Jersey. Really? Yeah. Is that true? That's true. Where?

It was a little hole in the wall known as Drew University. Let me pick up the name I just dropped. I know Drew University. Yeah, named after Drew. Carrie. Yes. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Lots of friends that went there. Lots of friends that went to Drew University. Drew University. Go Rangers. Go Rangers. But did not finish up. Didn't finish there. Yeah.

You did one semester? Did a single one when I got some grades on. Got his grades on. Can I tell you about my semester and my grades? Hit me. So, took four classes. Each class worth four credits, 16 credits. Would do that fast.

This guy was an econ major. Okay. Yeah. Carry the one. And then problem was the aforementioned economics class that I was taking at the final in December, you know, the exams, I knew at that point that I wasn't going to go back for the next semester. I already decided I was going to take a semester off. And if anything, go to a different college.

Go to, yeah, go to a sea. Yeah, like a drill or something, you know. Yeah. And so. Go to a boat. Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, fuck this.

And I didn't e-com. It's too hard. And so I literally in the middle, I got like two questions in and was like, literally pen down, walk up to the TA, hand to my exam. He was like, wow. Oh, my God, smart guy, finished. I go- Pen, yeah.

No, I didn't answer two questions. And they were both wrong. Anyway, the point is, I failed economics. What ends up happening now? I have 12 credits, not 16. Okay. Fast forward, six months, I go to transfer to Montclair State University in New Jersey.

Uh-oh. I see what's coming. Do you? Well, tell me, and I'll tell you if it's what I saw. Just say it first. Say it. If your story, why should he have to say that he knows exactly what's happening? Yeah.

And then you tell me if it's what you. I will. Yeah. And I'll be honest. Yeah. I, they had a minimum requirement of credits. You can't get transferred. 16.

You need 16 is the minimum number. And the Econ. Screwed me. Test. So I have 12 non-transferable credits. to my name. Waiting there. Just sitting.

That I paid a lot of money for. That I paid a lot of money for. Went to Montclair State. They were useless. Started at Montclair State. Two and a half weeks. Start from scratch there. Start from scratch there.

Zero credits you've got at that point. Zero. And I got a part in a TV show. That moved me out to Los Angeles. And then that was in 1997. Name in the show? Total Security. Stephen Botchko's show.

starring Jim Belushi, ABC, Saturday nights. And that's number... On the list of 10? In the 10? Seven. Seven, yeah, seven. It holds a little more import because it was the show that got me out to L.A.

After all these years, you always remember the show that moved, yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's a crazy thing about this thing. You have a fondness, a particular fondness for that show or movie. The first one, yeah. You know?

Kind of broke in. It wasn't my first show, but it was the one that moved. me after third or fourth show but this one you moved for exactly is it time to go back to Washington Square Park to oh to Washington Square Park and not a bad place look you're you're promoting stuff here right now yep you just walk across Washington Washington Square Park you're in 15 TikToks before you get to the other side true story you're hitting promo the whole way that's a good point and you're carrying your books and I'm carrying my books and you're on your

and you finally kind of shake off some of these demons that have been on your back ever since that yeah unlock those 12 credits what's scaring you failure yeah and the dorms and the dorms table pong yeah yeah the dorms shitting you know with other people I the sandals I'm not I'm not used to wearing sandals in the shower but I'd also don't want any kind of foot disorder right exactly is it it both of you applying together and saying hey package

package deal when you were a package deal when you're picking teams when people pick teams on the schoolyard and then go you and you sometimes you link arms you're best friend and go we're package you pick me you pick him too

you know and then that way you couldn't end up because I would hate to go to a rival school and we'd have to compete and then the two of us are up against each other come on man be a strain on our friendship. And it could be a stopable force much.

Coming from both of you, a better pitch of like, we just need the craziest bathroom you got. Yeah. You know? Like we basically need our own freestanding, like new structure. Yeah. Yeah. The bathroom thing's going to have to be specifically built to handle us.

Yeah. And everything else can you can keep pretty normal. Yeah. I'm okay with the other. arrangements. Yeah, obviously I don't want to be in class with too many people. Yeah, and I don't want to be on a floor with you with like other people. Professor can't tell me what to do. Yeah. And like I'm not going to eat the food there. Well, it's gross. And it's just I don't understand the system, though like no, so I'm not going to have that. No, I'll pay with real money.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'll figure, I'll decide what the books are. Yeah, yeah. Do we need books? I don't know. Well, I don't know now because I've got a phone. I have a hand computer. This guy's got But this is college now, I feel like these, the kids just like do whatever they want. It's starting to feel that way, man. Crazy stuff. So you should probably say they don't like that either, that they shouldn't be saying stuff, you know. If you're going to be there that they can't be saying all this stuff. If I'm going to go, because I don't want to be, I'm attending this college and then now this college is in the news for all this stuff for what he's been saying, now I'm part of the news cycle.

Yeah. No, they got to shut up if I'm going there. Not again. Yeah. I tell you what, some of these college students, I mean, I've said it before, Jason, but I got a safe space for them. About six feet on the ground, pretty safe down there. A-O. You know what I mean?

Bury them alive. Killed them. And they die down there. Yeah, they're dead already. We're asked just for requesting some safety. Yeah. Do we make any arrangements with our partner? I'm speaking for you guys, of course.

I mean, I'm just, I'm along from a range of. I'm excited to watch. If we develop it into something, would love to participate in some way. Okay. Arrangements with the partners. With the partners, yeah. You had mentioned a wedding before.

Oh, sure, sure, sure. You're going off to call, you know, this is when relationships are, like, really tested. That's a good point. Right. It's crazy, like going long distance, and it's like... Where is your partner?

In terms of right now? Yeah. I assume in an elevator or something, because she has not been answering my calls. Yeah. And when we are recording the podcast, they're not in this room, and that's what you have to know.

You know what I mean? I have to put that aside. Yeah. These come off. During the podcast, yes. I mean, physically it's on, but that's just because I had a really salty lunch. And mentally, it has to be gone

because I have to be single during the show. And I never know what's going to happen with the guest. been floating face down on the ocean for days, basically. It's like that lunch level in terms of finger hugeness. Do you understand what he's saying? What happens in the podcast stays in the podcast? You do understand. You do understand.

So that's kind of going on. But yeah, my partner, why did you want to know? It might help me answer if I know why you even are asking that, like where she is. Yeah. Well, I just wanted to know if I was going to get to meet her today. Oh, that's really sweet. No, not today. Probably not ever.

Well, let me ask in terms of us going to university together. Is there, she's in, where are we? Los Angeles right now. And she's a resident. She's a resident. Do you have children? Would she, do you have children? Yeah, yeah.

Yes. Currently, yes. Do you? Currently, yes. Those regrets. I mean, no, it's a lot. Light of my life. Apple of my.

Makes it all worthwhile, but at college, they test you as well. College you want, I'm not really be thinking about that at all. I can't take care of kids and study. Yeah. It's too much for me. this are we going to you know in our scenario we've created here we were talking about New York but do we need to find some because I'm I live there in New York so that's convenient for me and I make your own college accepted do we need to find something a

little more geographically compatible yeah are both of our lives should we go to say you know and and you want me to fill in or you create oh it's Creighton the idea. A couple Blue Jays up in this piece. Look at you. Yeah. A couple of Doug McDermott's up there. Look at you.

You know what I mean? Creighton is the example of the school that is in the middle. That's in between. Omaha. Right? Is that right? Creighton. Right.

Maybe. Yeah. Wow. Creighton Blue Jays. I have to think if you're really going to do well there, Doug McDermott style, you're going to have to try and walk on to the team. basketball team.

Yeah. Right. Why even go? To Creighton. It's only for the basketball. And why make these arrangements with your partners if you're not going to, you know. For me to put the strain on my relationship with my partner so that I can attend Creighton with my roommate, Jason, I think that I need to be playing basketball and I think I need

to be starting probably in order for it to make sense. That's a good point. Well, let's reassess then. let's figure something else out maybe you know or let's do that or a different school yeah and what are we going to study well I've been really nervous to bring that up because there's not a lot that I'm interested in

yeah yeah again you have a calling yeah it's in your blood it's in your DNA you know oh you've seen your semen you know yeah it is it is I mean it's in your DNA then it does have to live ultimately in your semen as well. That's where the most of it is. That's where the DNA goes. I mean, you know, it's not,

people will say, oh, they're being crude, you know, that's vulgar. We're just talking about DNA. Literally scientific fact that DNA lives in your nuts and a little basically like swimming, like, weird, like guy, you know, who like lives in there. That has your face. Yeah. He's got your face and he's got, you know, parts of your body.

personality. They don't all have all of your personality. I'm sure you see that with your kids. Yeah, I've seen that. Oh, this person's, you know, like this. They're not like, but they all have my, they all have my sperm face. Yeah. They talk in like a really high voice.

Mm-hmm. Maybe we can play a clip. Sure. To help us inform this a little bit. I have a clip from, uh, from one of your films, uh, that delves into this area. Yeah. Uh, and. could be interesting to

talk about here. Wow. Let's listen to the clip. Take your time with the headphones. And let's wait until Jason, I mean the clip is named after him. Don't rush with the headphones. Okay.

Now let's start from the beginning, please. Let's play the clip. We do at least one more song. Oh, no. Here comes Kevin with the camera. He just came in with the camera. Oh, my God. She just let him

struggling with the door. Oh, hey Kevin Hey guys, how's it going Yeah, oh good, good Stay off, Mike, please Should we get this over here? Hey, so let's take these off, right? Sorry, what is?

Can I just listen to it the rest of the way, please? Okay, hang on. Sorry, we'll watch you in a second. Kevin, who's making you do this? Scripts. Sorry. They said go in. What we were supposed to.

Interrupt the show. 12 minutes into every show. Do you wait outside until it feels like we got something of a flow going? Are you standing out there the whole time? I wait until I hear laughter and then I... He said this would be a good moment. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

That's good. Okay. Well... All right. I'm not even here. So I am so sorry. I'm really sorry, Jason. That was totally unprofessional.

That was not the clip I meant to play. No, we were going to play one of your films that was supposed to be an example we were talking about. That wasn't from... No, it's kind of interesting. That did interrupt the flow of what was feeling like a very nice episode, and it was... And I would love to just lay out what that was. Yeah, what was that? That was the first time that our producer, Kevin, appeared on this show.

I actually got on Mike. It's the first time that he was a... production coordinator at the time. Okay. That was the first time he's been on the show. I have been listening to that clip a lot. I guess I sent it. We both have been listening to it basically nonstop for the past six months.

By accident. Because Kevin is. Kevin's moving. Moving to Pittsburgh. He's leaving Los Angeles. He's been with us for now, you know, 10 years or so. I mean, and a big part of the show. and he's leaving and it's just one of those things you find yourself oh i wonder when he was

first on and you listen you kind of drift into memories and then you find yourself revisiting again and again uh those times and you're like you guys going off to college and like yeah i know i know that we're kind of moving on too we're going to Creighton ideally if we can get you know if we can get on the team yeah if we can make the team and then Kevin's going to to be in Pittsburgh, which is also maybe in Omaha. And I'm so happy for you guys. And I think for Hayes especially, that's difficult because he will not be in either of those places. Yes.

Yes. But I swear to God, like I have been rooting for you guys so hard. And I've been like in this place where I'm so excited for the next stage of all our lives. You know, I can't wait to grow up and move on to the next thing. Well, can I talk to you, Jason, about what it means to you to come. to be a part of this moment. I mean, obviously you've been such a huge part of the show over the years. Yes, yes, yes.

And such a huge advocate for the podcast, you know. And there were times when we didn't know if we'd keep it going and we'd get that kind of, that Jason juice, that little injection of like, you guys can't, you cannot quit on me now. Like people count on you. A little bit of that. A little bit of the DNA. A little splash. A little splash at our coffee. That's really funny.

Yeah. Yeah. And the Jason juice. And so for you to be here. And all the times we didn't know if it was going to work with Kevin and we needed someone to like be. Should we get someone else or should we? Yeah. Who knows all of us and really knows all of us and like how we can make it work.

Kevin, can you just come in here, man? Come on. Can Kevin come in? And just to be in this studio too and all the memories we've shared with Kevin over all this time. It's like really intense, obviously. Hey, Kevin. How are you? Nice to see you again. You just kind of mealed out here.

Yeah, maybe you could just be on your knees. Okay. Hey, Kevin. Hey. Hey, Jason, Chef Kevin here. You know he always said that for a long time. Yeah, it's first time long time. Likewise.

Do you, um... Where is that me? Because you have to ask him the question. Wait, I'm not sure. If you whispered, then we... If you whisper, then we all can hear it. And that means that. But the audience can't hear us.

But we're helping him. But we're helping him communicate with you. So if you're helping him communicate with you, then we don't have a role. Yeah. Okay, I got it. Well, who am I going to help communicate? Do you need anything?

You can actually, actually, if you wanted to tell me, I'm doing a good job encouraging him. Jason, that would actually be this. Let me, let me check. Sean didn't need anything. I'm feeling okay. Do you want me to ask Kevin if, ask Kevin to ask you

if you need anything not to ask me if you need anything so Kevin yeah so just ask me directly if I need something because when you bring Jason into it it becomes a little uncomfortable for him by you're listening to shot shot is talking so don't be looking at me

when shot is talking about I just hold on one second look at me I just don't want to be in the middle of this no no look at me I just don't want to be in the middle of this okay so if you could just deal with Sean directly okay okay go ahead Sean yeah can you tell him to deal with you directly Kevin don't ever deal with me directly the second you leave this city you do not exist for me anymore I'm gonna need your help Hayes is out hey's yeah can you hear me yeah okay he needs your help okay Kevin needs your help he needs my help apparently I can't

It's not really the arrangement. We should just ask is, right? I mean, isn't it kind of, I know, but it's not how it's supposed to. I got to believe. I got to believe. How it has worked for the whole part. As a long time listener, I know that that's how it works. So will you just check in with Kevin?

Kevin, I need something from you. And you, Sean, and you, Jason. I need to know. that the four of us, no matter where we go, will always come back together. Let's meet in this exact spot. In this podcast. In this studio. We're upping the volume just a little bit slowly, I think.

The exactly right studio, let's meet here. What do you want to say? Like, should we set it? Should it be 10 years from, maybe it's four years from today. Four years from today. Because that's how long we'll be in college. Oh. That's a great call.

So then we'll be, at that point, we'll be graduates. We'll be peers of hazis. Yeah, but hold on. Yeah. Hold on. Okay. We have some credits already. Well, yes. But what if we get redshirted?

Yeah. What if we get redshirted? And what if there's COVID again? Then we're talking six years. Yeah. Okay. So, okay. So let's not tie it to the college thing.

Okay. Because that feels like there's too many moving parts there. Lots of variables. And so when I said four years, I'm so fucking stupid. Like, why did I do that? You're not stupid. No, it's fine. You're not stupid.

Tell that to, you know, college. You have a next project coming up that you think you might want to make in the rounds together? Something that you could do this. Yeah, bring us back together. That would be nice, yeah, because then we could also do a podcast because I'm thinking we're just meeting up here. Like, why? Why are we meeting up in the podcast room? But to do the podcast.

Yeah, then that would be. It really doesn't even have to be all four of us. It could, you know, it doesn't have to be. Kevin, if he lives somewhere else. Like, that doesn't make sense. Yeah. That's true. Yeah.

Okay. It would just be like, I guess it would just be you coming back on the show if you have something else. So what are the movies? If you want, you know, what are the movies that are out now? You haven't even mentioned them yet. Yeah. I have.

Then what are they? Yeah, come on. Jesus. Untitled. What are they? Home invasion romance. Okay. Mm-hmm.

And then another one is coming. coming out soon called Operation Taco Gary. And who's rounding out the cast in some of these projects? Yeah, of course. Thanks for asking. So, an untitled Home Invasion Romance, Megan Rath plays my wife. Phenomenal.

We've got Arturo Castro, who also is in Operation Taco Garys. That's how I met him. You loved working with him. I loved what I cast him in my movie. Yes. And Justin Minn and Anna Conkall from Penn 15. Oh, God, of course.

So they'll all come back, too. They'll meet us here. They'll meet us here too. Yeah. Well, it's going to be a tight squeeze, but I think it's worth it. Yeah, well, not if Kevin's not here. Oh, that's right. We'll have a lot of room because Kevin will be here.

Yeah. He'll be in fucking Pittsburgh. Yeah. Or wherever. Or wherever. Wherever, if even sticks it out there, yeah. Yeah. You know, I don't have a lot of confidence in the Pittsburgh plan.

Yeah, who would? But I don't think he's going to be on the show's face back. here again either why is he going to Pittsburgh yeah I don't know will you ask him I'll just tell you what he told me okay what he saw the pit and he said I'm gonna need all of that bye