Hollywood Handbook - Joe Lo Truglio, Our Close Friend

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

The Boys try once again to get a releasable episode out of JOE LO TRUGLIO. Check out Joe in Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass, in theaters July 10th!   Get a Hat Pack Hat here! Check out Sean and Hayes’s bonus shows at Patreon.com/HollywoodHandbook Listen and watch on the iHeartRadio App!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Jolo episode. Jolo Bolo. Jololo. Every single fucking time I say, we're not, that's the last one. we're not having him back. I love you. I know. But how many is this, Kevin?

How many times have we tried to get a releaseable episode out of you? Well, first of all, you know how much I hate Jolo. I mean, it's a very simple. It's J-O-E. Who do you know that's named J-O-E? This immediately. This again. Again.

This is why. And he's doing it again. I haven't been. At this point, it's on me. At this point, it's on me. No, it's on me. And I said that I'd try harder and let's start over. The lone member.

He's reminding himself of the 11 timers club. Joe O'Trullio is back. Thank you. It's so good to be here. Trulio, Madlio, Deep Leo, I like to call you. That one I like. When did we first start? Was it you and Terry came on?

Were you? It was either Terry and Terrence or Dylan William. Okay. Because that was the whole theme. Like, let's get the long name and the short name. Right. Guess.

And you came on with Terry Terrence. You came on with Terry Terrence and you were trying to get Brooklyn 100 off the ground at that time. I do remember being very excited about the prospect of Brooklyn 100. Well, well, I was excited too. In hindsight, I think Doing it two days after our show officially ended, I think wasn't great timing on my part With just you and Terry.

A little bit, yeah. And not Terry Cruz, Terry Terrence. I think that was like... Right. I just wanted to get... Terry Terrence was not someone that people really remember from the show.

He couldn't do anything with his pecks and he was winded easily. And I'll take it on the chin a little bit. I had a misunderstanding of what the number meant in Brooklyn 99. Oh, yeah. And I thought it was just like the percentage of comedy that we were going to do. And it actually was something about a code precinct code or something.

Yes. And so that. Yes. So the Brooklyn 100 title, I think, was not really playing off of that. No. No, and didn't exist. There was no 100th precinct. Yes.

We did raise a lot of money, as I recall, for the show. Did that like, what? $2,700. There's a lot of money. Yeah. And, you know, nothing to sneeze at. What's that?

Nothing to sneeze at, I say. Nothing. You're not going to kick that out of bed. Yeah. $2,700. And what ended up happening with that? It ended up going into kind of a good charity, a good charity for, save the of the herm crabs because a lot of them kind of leave the shell.

And then I'm a big, I grew up in Florida, had a lot of pets. Hermor crabs was one of them. Yeah. And so that, it went towards that. Okay. I mean, it wasn't that smart of a thing. I think I could have raised more money if it was for kind of a bigger, more altruistic charity. Right.

Well, I mean, you didn't say it was for a charity at all. Yeah, at the time it was for the show, Brooklyn 100, Kickstarter. Yeah, it was just a, it was like a go fund me. And not even using Kickstarter, the platform. It was a cash app. Yeah, it was just a cash app code. And then the hermit crab thing kind of came later, which I am. now basically. I'm relieved to hear that it went to

a cause at all. It did. Uh-huh. But we didn't save a lot of those guys. You didn't save very many hermit crabs with that $2,700? Do you have a number? Is there a number? Yeah. I mean, I would say about a dozen. Wow. Okay. You know. So back in the

napkin math. Eight. Okay. I saw that look. You kind of squinted. All right. Fair enough. Cot. Caught. Right. Okay. So what are we working with like $3,500 dollars a hermit crab or something? No, it's only $2,700 total. Oh, yeah.

Oh, okay. Yeah. So it's about, I think it's like $6,800 a hermit crowd. Okay, yeah. So, yeah, so that charity I also would kind of want to get under the hood, under the shell, as it were, and look at some of what they're processing. Ah, God's sorry. I mean, that's kind of how I'm feeling right now, Crickets. Hey, Grace, you're on Hollywood handbook.

Hi. I didn't know this was a calling show. You don't treat your guests very well. I mean, if they're calling in, they're making the effort to call in. Well, I don't necessarily think... All he said was you're on Hollywood Handbook. Well, you're right. You did.

I thought that was perfect. I thought that was actually really nice. You're right. If I had not said that, it probably would have been a much bigger problem, especially from how quickly the hang-up happened. And then we brought you. back with Randy Johnson I think was it you and Randy Johnson yeah yeah yeah yeah it was this was just after he'd nailed that bird with the yeah yes

yes um so I didn't want to hurt said him to like a PR tour stage show where you were dress up as the bird I would just up as a bird exactly and I'd kind of kind of hustle across the stage and he he would just he'd be me with the ball and this guy yeah who There's not a reason he's MVP of the 2001 World Series. There's not a reason he's not an MVP, yeah. He, the size of the studio, I think, with his, I mean, he just would end up just, like, wailing on you with his hand. Yeah, because, like, to get a full pitch off with his extension. I mean, he was, like, Freddy Krueger.

With, like, you know, the nightmare, he's just the long arms, he's just. Freddy Krueger's a famously long-arms. Like, you know, he has that long-off. Yeah, yeah. So he's got the long-arms. Yeah, so it felt like that's what he was just. He wasn't like traditional Freddie Kruger. If you just say he was like Freddy Kruger, I don't think people necessarily,

picture the long-arms immediately. You're right. No, I wasn't very-themed version from the one scene. From the one scene, which everyone remember. Well, yeah. You got me thinking about it again. Yeah, that's one of the 20 or 30 scariest, Freddie Krueger's, yeah. Okay, great.

And I was hoping to get some sleep tonight. Thank you, Jolo, for undoing that wish. This is what happened on episode 10. It began with the whole Nightmare and Elm Street talk. Yeah, which I swore we wouldn't get into again, but there's some themes that are so universal and that our, you know, water finds its level, as it were, and our brain just seeks purchase on these ideas.

They're not comforting necessarily, but they're fascinating. And we crave exploration. of, you know, Freddie Kruger, dreams, what do they mean? How long are arms, you know, a bird getting hit with a baseball. And that is human. Since we're talking about the dreams, I had a recurring nightmare as a kid where I hate that. I hate that. Sorry.

Sorry. It's a recurring nightmare. Like, we've had you so many times. You're going to start with Jolo again or, you know. I'm doing my. I'm doing my best here. That's what I'm worried about. It's like minute eight, minute eight.

It always turns out like clockwork. I do have a fear that this is your best. But go ahead because you were going to tell us about the dream. No, I mean like, you know, look, whatever. Like I fly towards this, the man in the moon and he's going, you. And then like, you got hands? Yeah. Well, man of the moon's got fingers and he's pointing.

His little crater, crater fingers. It starts out in your flying, like, you're flying. No, it starts out of them walking. You're walking, and I'm picked up and rushed towards the man in the moon who's very angry, and he's shaking his crater fingers at me. Crater fingers. What does it mean? Craitor fingers.

I'm having trouble picturing it as well. I mean, the craters are concave. I know. It's an absence of space. But it's dream logic. Okay. You know, yeah. It's true.

Yeah. Are you drunk? No, I'm just looking at my fingers. And I'm trying to think how they could be craters. Well, you give me a lot to chew on, Joe. I don't think I could get to the bottom of that today. The sunglasses are like, they're meant to be worn in kind of a drunk way. So you can get pulled over by police.

They treat you a certain way. You're filming them. I'm filming them. Like, now you've got a case and content. Yeah. I'm a victim, which is my favorite thing to be. is actually incredible, the sympathy that you can get when you are a victim. And rich.

Yes. And I guess a little bit of money. Yeah. Well, you can never be too rich or too thin or too victimized is what I always say. I mean, you're not wrong, I suppose. And then what was the next? So the, the mayor on Elm Street, it was number 10. 10 is a Ramsey on.

Randy on. Randy was too. I think he thought that was a game. Yeah, he might have thought it was like, you know. You told him it was a game. He seemed to think that Sean was Matt Stairs. You thought Sean was what? Matt Stairs.

Matt Stairs. Oh. It was. Who's Matt Stairs? Well, now that I think about it, I feel like maybe they were on the Diamondbacks together at the time. I don't know. So like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, right, right.

I don't know, but he was not. He wasn't happy. That wasn't a long episode. That was a really. short episode. Hey, we got this. Hey, we got this, man. Right. Okay. So that's, hang in there. Yeah. I had forgotten the bird outfit that episode two, which made it awkward because I was walking across the room and he's throwing a ball at me. Yeah. Mm-hmm. No one understood why that was happening. Yeah.

You know, that the bird. That, yeah, that episode was not a success, certainly. Compared to this one, where would you say it is? scale of one to ten. It was visually interesting which I don't think we have no there's no you brought no visual element today at all

he has his sunglasses his funny sunglasses and they can't go on my drink is at least bringing a pop of color okay what about a Home Depot receipt all right okay

now we're getting somebody's been shopping not a very long receipt well it's actually a refund receipt Do you want to read how much that refund was for? Can I get a look at that? Sure.

I think you're going to see. 12.6 p.m. 12.6 p.m. No, but look how much I got back. The money. Yeah, look how much I got back. Okay, and the sales tax came back as well. Initial purchase, and you're going to like the beginning of this, 6-9, 698.

It was 698. And sales tax was 73 cents. We got 771 back. And this was for an adapter with plug and ABS clean-out adapter. Yeah. Okay. So it looks like you took them for a bit of a ride. Sure.

And, you know, we did do the episode where you talked about, you know, all your greatest life hacks. Yep. And one of them is Home Depot will let you make a return without a receipt. And so you'll go in there and just boost every which way you can. I'll like, you know, pay for it and then, you know, then go out and like maybe see if it fits the pipe. Maybe not. Maybe it does hammer the nail. Maybe it doesn't.

Maybe I use the nail. Maybe I don't. But I just take it right on back. You walk it right back in. So basically charge your phone for free at the end of the day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Hey, guys. You know, it wasn't the right charger for me. Meanwhile, your phone's full of battery. Full of battery. And then you got $7.71 in your pocket. You get. I go.

I walk out. I go, Suggah. You call them. It's coming through so clear on the boat because it's fully charged. I got a full bat, a full bat. Suggled. Yeah, the life hack episode I would say, it was probably our best one. Yeah, there was that, and then there was some trick with parking meters that I'm not going to be able to remember.

Oh. It was your hack. Right. It was, oh. It was something like tying a string to the. quarter when you drop it in the slot. I think so, yeah, which a lot of them don't take quarters now. So it was a long time ago that we did the episode.

Yeah. Yeah, mostly they just, it's a credit card now. But yeah, the quarter of a string to that. No, no, that's what it became tying a string to the credit card when you pull it in so you can pull it back out. But you're supposed to pull it back out. That's right. And as we actually realized that you had been leaving a lot of credit cards in parking meters all over the city. fully inserting them into the parking.

You know, I'm tired of learning the string trick. My rating went way down because I had, you know, I had about 15 credit cards. I had new credit cards out of get a month. Got to open a new one every time you park. Yeah. And it keeps paying that meter.

Yeah, over and over, yeah. Yeah. So. Which also is illegal. Like if somebody else is parked there and you pay their meter. Yeah, that's illegal. You go to jail, brother. I don't like that.

I don't like that. It does seem a little extreme. You can't be kind. Like, suddenly you can't be. kind like hey this person may have a bad day maybe you know maybe he sat on attack you know maybe he stepped in gum you know and he didn't you know he's upset he can't get his coins out of his pocket and he's just like I'm out of here and then he comes back to see when did it become illegal to be kind when did that happen in this country exactly yeah and I think we can pinpoint

and it was somewhere around your fourth appearance on the show and I don't know if it was related or not. Maybe, maybe not. There was some shift. There was a seismic shift. The entire concept of a good Samaritan somehow became weak or frowned upon. Yes, frowned upon or just a negative. A negative thing.

It ruffled people's feathers. It was yes. So that I don't know. I don't understand that. Richie's here. This is Richie. Hey, how's it going? Richie wasn't here.

Last time for your last episode. Were you here for the last one? No, I was. No, yeah. Oh, dude. Well, maybe you'll be able to bail us out, man. Was he working here during the fourth episode, the illegal one? Is it illegal?

He just said that he wasn't, that he's new. He's never been in. I don't listen to people off camera normally. Yeah, no. So, but that's, that is what he was saying over there, was that he was not there for that episode. Okay, Riffie. Or any of the other ones, he's right there. All right, Rennie.

You know, you keep looking at it? You keep looking at it. at the ceiling. He's not off the ceiling. He's not behind everything. He is there. He's right across me in the corner. One day I'll meet Richie. He loves movie.

The guy's a movie freak. Who's this guy over here? That's Richie. So that is Richie. That's actually Yeah, we're making that forward progress. So that's Richie. He's a movie hollick. He always comes in. Every time I see him, he goes like, oh. I was at cinema last night.

Oh, wow. What's your favorite seafaring movie? A seafaring movie. Ooh. Life Aquatic was Steve Suizo. Okay. Steve Suizu. The life aqua was such a memorable character.

My son was talking during, so I couldn't hear most of the words. Oh, man. You get that. That happens. And Richie does watch the. he does watch the films all with the soundtrack for the visually impaired. So they are constantly describing the scenes too. So I think it sometimes leads you to on one level miss dialogue,

but also to understand the plot, I think, better than others. Because it is being dictated to you. I also went to L-E-U-S-D, so, you know. Yeah. Teaching's there. My readers So the whole thing is just kind of just leaking out

Yeah Yeah that's really tough But he loves movie Love him Okay Yeah, okay Meanwhile we got someone here Who's in a movie

Yeah And I'm thinking Is this a pairing That could actually work Because it doesn't feel like There's been any connection In the 11 appearances With the three of us

And so having this new spoke Yeah To sort of focus on I like this bike And just to sort of explore movies Through the lens of Richie And you reflected off of him Could actually be maybe rewarding

I mean I do feel it I do feel something now now that like we are kind of engaged Now that I am seeing you I'm seeing that soul behind that I'm seeing that window I'm looking through that window And you know I think you to see it Yeah well you know I think it could work though I think this our love for cinema can work together You know so

So, Richie, he's in a movie. So are you going to watch that? Oh, yeah. Yes. Definitely watch it. Yes. It has the captions and everything if you want it. Yeah.

And talk about the movie. Well, I mean, in the movie, well, Richie, the movie's called Gail Daughtry and the celebrity sex pass. It's about this girl who's going to get married. The name thing, like, you might want to simplify it for him a little bit. Because you just heard. Yeah, I'm so bad with names. Just sex.

Just do sex pass. Just remember sex pass. Yeah, I think what you're going to find is that Gail Daughtry gets pretty butchered in the retelling. If you leave any, what we see is there a name in the title? He has an issue. Steve Suizo. Yeah, yeah.

It's Gail Suizo and the celebrity sex pass. Yeah, you know. Chris Daughtry. This, this is, Gail gets, she gets cheated on by her fiancee sleeps with a very famous big shot, big shot. We've got to go see it. And so she wants to sleep with a big shot, John Ham. She goes on a little bit of a revenge story.

And I'll, I mean, I'll just skip ahead. John, Dick. Am I right? John penis. John penis. Right, because it's a revenge tale. That's right. That's right.

I know we're going to have this conversation soon. or later, you always say that in all of your movies and shows that you do, your only requirement in your contract is that your character is getting it in at the movie. Do you want to...

Never really, like, does that mean like having sex? Like, I guess I've never really... This is a movie about having sex. Well, yeah, the other characters are, if that's what getting it in, is they're doing it in a way where I feel like another character doing it would actually be distracting.

It's supposed to be it to me, maybe. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I say like getting it in, I could be getting it in or I could be getting into me. Okay. So it goes either, either way. And that's, and that is happening in this one as well? It's happened in this one. It's happened in most projects that I've done.

Okay. So sometimes they have broken the contract. So what makes you decide to sign on for a project that's not honoring that? Is it just a dream director to work with? Is it the script? Well, look, there's four questions. Like, is it that I have to answer? There's four questions.

Feeling I'm at Passover. You know, there's like, is this scary? All right? And I'm going to make money. Or is it going to be fun? And the last is, will I get sick? So the one I didn't take, was, I was scared. Well, let's go.

Let's do. We're promoting Gail Doctor, so let's go through the process. Well, hang on. I want to hear this. Okay. Yeah. Well, the one that would give me, yeah, that I didn't do that did have, we'll get them in, we'll get something in them.

Yeah. I was going to get sick on it. Oh. Oh. And so, you know, it was like, you know, because you would think not getting sick is a plus. No, I want to get sick. Right. It's got, I need a yes.

So it was going to be scary. It was going to be funny. It was going to be fun. You were going to have fun. I was going to have fun. You were going to make money and you were going to get sick. Yeah. And so it hit all that criteria so you were willing to not get it in or get it into you.

Yeah. Yes. Okay. Correct. But you wanted to talk about Gail Dodger. Well, I was just, I wanted to go down the checklist for that. that movie because you must have asked yourself the four questions going into that process. Yeah, you got it again, you got to.

And specific elements of the production that satisfied each of the four questions. Okay. Well, you know, I did have fun. Okay. Because I worked with one of my heroes of Fonz Henry Winkler. Yeah. So that was fun. So you knew that was going to be fun.

I knew that was going to be fun. And free soda. Um, I was scared. It did scare me because there is a scene. I'm not going to blow it. I'm not going to spoil it. No, no, no. You got to shell out the money.

But there is soup. But there is soup and that was involved in a scene and that was scary. And you read the script and that it made you scared that part. Yeah. He gave me the willies. Okay. And then I'm fun scared. Oh, and the money.

And I wasn't going to make the money. Okay. You were not compensated for this. particular project. I was compensated enough, but I was going to make the money. Okay. But I was... You were going to make the money.

Yeah. I was going to make a money, but not the money. Yes. And then I was, it was going to make me sick, and it did get me sick. Oh, well, congratulations on getting that taken care of. Four, three out of the four, was a yes. Yeah, and then you got it in as well. And I got it in.

Maybe possibly into the soup. And you pay your money. They're money. No free lunch is here. Come on. To do it all at once like to be scared, get it, have fun, and make money at the same time and get sick. Well, I didn't make. He was paid.

He made a money. He made a money. He made a slave work. Right. Paid a fair rate. Right. But he didn't make the money. Right.

Right. Yeah. And what kind of sick? What kind of sick did you get? Talk about how sick you got. Yeah. It wasn't, it wasn't like a neurovirus. It was more kind of like a scratchy throat that turned into, like a stuffy nose.

So it was immoderate. But again, that's okay. Yeah, it is okay. Yeah. I don't kind of differentiate between, you know, leprosy and, like, you know, a common cold. Like, just one of the two is fine. Yeah, when leprosy would be preferable. But, I mean, I would be sick.

Yeah, that's sick. That's very sick, yeah. You know, but I would have my own island. Oh. That's where they put them. Right at that point, yeah. I guess you would have your own island. Yeah.

Yeah. That's what I'm told. Yeah. Growing up, all the stories I read, they had their whole island. Yeah. Yeah. So, is that so bad? I don't think so.

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on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Is Casey in there? I'm here. This is Casey. Hi, Casey. You love. Love a movie. Casey's a movie. Casey just made a movie actually.

Oh yeah? You should have been in that one because I definitely think it would have been sickening to you. And it's certainly scary. It's about like Casey's having sex with a devil or something. It's like, yeah. Oh, so someone went in him. Yeah, it's like, yeah. It's called The Devil Loves Me So Long.

That's close enough. Yeah, okay. It changes every time. Is it 90 minute or do you go past the 90? Because that's the ideal time. Is it 120? The actual runtime is 96 minutes. Okay.

Okay. So both those numbers appear on the receipt. That's where I get my ideas. Yeah. Most ideas come from this receipt. It is funny when people do say like, God, you know, you're working in Hollywood. Where do you go? get all your crazy ideas and they don't understand that like when you have a mind like ours.

Yeah. The ideas are right there on your Home Depot receipt. All there. You return the charger. You know, you get a fully charged phone. It's a plethora. You just look at that thing until you get a movie idea. That's right.

You have to have sex with John Hamm. You know what I mean? Like that's in there. That's in the bar code. You have to have an open mind, right? Like, you know, all these writers. Mines are parachutes. Don't show.

Piresuits. They only function went open. They only function when open. Go ahead. Do you float down in that parachute? I well, yes, right? Yeah. I like how zigzagging. I like how this is going to hope so, yeah.

I hope. The thing is, like, if you really are worried about someone stealing your idea, listen, pal, writing's not for you. The good writers, the ideas just come out. You're supposed to have so many ideas. At least three more in there. Yeah. No, four total ideas.

Every great writer has four ideas total, and some of them they do twice. And if you still are stuck, You still are just in a big old riders block. Go to Home Depot. Go live your life. Go have an experience, right? Or that. Oh, yeah.

Sure. Go to the, yeah, go to the zoo and then take, you know, can then go to Home Depot and then bring, you know, one of the, a tool to the zoo and try to open the cages with it, you know. Get to know the tiger. Get to know the platypus. Get to know the rhino. Know your fellow sentient beings on earth. Even if they're a fence around them to protect. You can still commune with them.

You can still commune with them. You know? That's right. And you're friends of Madagascar of them? I know a few of them. I can't. You're not. The group is not still like really, like the whole Madagascar group is not.

That whole group? Yeah. I don't think they're still together. Okay. Yeah, I think after that first. You kind of had to pick. Oh, that sucks. Yeah.

They had that sucks, man. I'm sorry, dude. That's all right. Success got to their head or their horn or their long neck or their... Success got to their horn back. That fucking sucks, dude. All of it. No, it does.

It fucking sucks. You know, it was a good, it was a good group. Mm-hmm. It was a good group. They worked hard. They did... Funny stuff. What's going on in the Madagascar group chat at this point?

It's just crickets. I removed myself from the con... You had to... Oh, yeah. I mean, it was getting... Jolo has left the group chat. First of all, I didn't understand any of the text. Yeah.

Most of them can't. you know, type. So it was a lot of just fucking ellipses and then nothing would appear. Right. Yeah. And I'm saying stuff on the, you know, they're trying to, however with their snout or, it was just a stupid idea. It's a heat signature it takes and the hoof is not giving that. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But so that was a, that was, that was, say you later, Madagascar. That was, that franchise. Yeah. They don't speak Japanese there. Mm-hmm. Oh, the animal.

Well, you're right. Yeah, I guess they don't. Well, the panda did. No. Panda didn't? No, it didn't. Yeah, unfortunately, no, the panda did not speak Japanese. He always said he did, but he always was a black and white liar anyway.

Okay. Yeah, so it feels like you're kind of digging the hole a little deeper at this point. And Hayes is really trying to bail you out. This is why after the last one I always think like I don't want to talk about Freddie Kruger again but then I go

Well that's just a safe area Where I know that Joe's not going to make An iconic horror character And I don't understand why you wouldn't want to talk about it Yeah just no one's really offended When you know Miscarrius Say what language does he speak

and things like that like because he's like He's such a bad guy Like, you can kind of put whatever you want. He used it that. Yeah. Well, yes. And so there's a freedom for us and discussing Freddie Kruger with you. I'm just saying it's safe.

And that when we do, you know, and it's our fault for getting into the whole Madagascar concept. But, you know, I could feel that we were about to touch the third rail. And with the Sayanara debacle, we certainly went in there and then doubling and tripling down. I just, I think like. I can't believe we're doing this again in this episode. No, I mean. What do we do to reset now? And I'm sort of waiting.

We're going to rank the most iconic times that Freddie Kruger said the word bitch. And it's not what I wanted the episode to be about. Certainly isn't something I'm comfortable saying this many times. No, you're right. But I think we do have to do the top 12 times that Freddie Krueger said the word bitch. Because we are quoting Freddie Kruger, which I think makes it okay. I don't want to be, I don't want it to be interrupt. Well, if we're starting, I want us to be able to finish it.

And you did say when we were booking this that you were going to need to have dinner during the show. And that you were going to bring your dinner and that you were going to be eating it in such a way that you could return it. So that it would look like I can get the refund. You could get the full refund on the dinner. So you would kind of be eating somehow the inside of the dinner. It's like the center of the burger patty, but you leave the rim so that it still holds up the bun. It's kind of like how they hide like cash in those books. They just dig out of the whole.

That's what you're talking about. Yeah, well, that's what I guess you were talking about. But yeah, now I'm talking about it because I'm with you. Gotcha. And you. That's got getting me. And I don't understand if you're leaving cash, in the hollow dinner

when you're returning it it seems like you're losing money Oh no no I'm not doing that I was just saying Like those things you see in the movie Okay No I just just what do you put in Do you put something in the hollow Crumple up some paper or you know

Okay Some mulch or something in there Maltch Yeah okay Seems like when they would take it back Just for the weight of it Maybe you wet the mulch a lot Like to make it heavy enough to be

Well, and mulch is often free. No, I know, but just so they don't suspect when they're holding it. You're talking about the texture of the returned burger. The weight. The weight when they hold in there, because, like, it all hinges on when you hand the undie dinner back, I didn't eat this at all. So, like, you know, it's in the kind of plastic bag. Yeah, but with you, they're looking in the bag, Joe.

You've done this so many times. I don't ever, not to, Home Depot is too many employees that work there. They don't, but, like, I, Not at the neighborhood. Isn't the whole thing about Home Depot that you can't get the attention of the employee, that there aren't enough employees? They got a return desk. Okay.

And there's always someone there. But in terms of the restaurant, I never do the same burger trick more than once. You fill it with different stuff or you do like? Always mulchre crumpled up paper. Okay. So they're going to different restaurants? Do you go to a new restaurant every time? Yeah.

Oh, okay. Yeah. What is it that you think happens after you give back the mulch burger that kind of burns you at that place? Maybe an employee goes back and tries to eat it, gets a big mouthful of mulch realizes that they give you. No, I mean, they probably just throw it out and they never find out about it. And I'm like, yeah, sure, here's your refund back. But, yeah. Where's the fun of that?

I guess how many times are you going to order and return a burger? Well, a couple times I've waited, like, in the car. Like, I've gone out to my car and sat in it and kind of just watch the front door, just clocked it. waiting for them to run out. And they never, they never do. So I'm assuming they just... In your scorpion jacket with your gloves on. Yeah, I do have driving gloves.

Just sitting at the wheel. Yeah. And the car's running. One time one guy came out and I just, you know, flipped them off and, like, tore out of the parking lot. Yeah. That felt pretty good, but that was only one time. And you don't think, it sounds like you're not sure he was coming out to...

Might not have to come after years. Yeah. I don't even know if he noticed me. Mm-hmm. He might have been a patron rather than that. He wasn't wearing an employee. He's not the person that you had. No, no, no.

Yeah. Wasn't wearing an employee. Just that a guy walked out of the same building. Now that I think of it, maybe that's what it was. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And is it ever not a burger?

Is there any other food that you replaced the middle of with mulch? Where do you get the mulch is my? You answer his question first, but. Well, it's mainly burgers because that's the easiest thing to hollow out. Maybe a sub. It's always a sandwich of, some sort. In terms of the mulch question, I would say that the Glendale Public Works has a pile of mulch right behind the library there in Bram Park. And that's all free. Okay. And that's,

they're replacing that? Yeah, they dump fresh mults all the time there, yeah. Okay, because you are. I don't know if they know what like. They don't know who is taking it, but they know it's gone. They have to replace it. No, it is for everyone. It's a, if you live in Glendale, Oh, it's for everyone. Yeah. Oh, okay. So that's why I'm never caught. Like, you know, I just, they think I'm going to, you know, throw some mults down on the garden.

Yeah. Who's faster? Sonic the Hedgehog or the Roadrunner. I like that. I like that switch up. I like that segue. I'm going to go with Roadrunner. It's faster?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but you know what? I'm old school. Yeah. And this is what I like about you. Anyway, I tell me. We took a task on the Sionara comments, but it is like you're from a different time.

A different time. A buffing down. We used to just say that. These zoomers who named themselves after Sonic, by the way. Forget it. Give me a break. You know, we're a latchkey kids. Yes, that's right.

We used to go outside and we used to drink out of the holes. And when would you go home when the light post went on? Yes. That was time. Literally raised by TV. Yes. I was a kid. I watched the movie back to the future.

Kids don't know about this. But the style and the car and that movie, I mean, that was part of my childhood. What was great is that you felt you were transported. You felt you, like you were transported to another time. To a different time, yes. A different time. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. No, it was so cool. Martin the Fly and the hoverboard and a hoverboard Mr. Brown Mr. Brown was there Yes

Yes and Biv and Mr. Brown And Bib is kicking everyone And Caldly kid underwear Yes Yes it was That movie So incredible

They don't do that anymore But yeah When we were kids, that was the thing, man. And all be all. Unreal. But anyway, that's the time I'm from. So you get it. Yeah.

You get all the kids. Yeah. All the pranks I do. And then my obsession with to be not to be named again. And, you know, all the, that's because I'm from then. I'm from the 70s and the early 80s. Yes. Yes.

Yes. And at that time, people need to understand it was just different. We didn't, we weren't this. Yeah, that's right. Beep-Bop. Beep-bop. I'm a part robot living in my phone. It was literally what you were looking at was you were looking someone in the eye and you were calling them some sort of slur.

Yep. Or you were, you know. Or some misogyny type of thing. Something awful. Yeah, that was part of it. That was part of it. That was part of it. That, yes.

And you, yeah. And then you would go and throw crab apples at each other. So somebody ended up in the hospital. Yep. It was just a different, it was a different time in the world was so alive then. It wasn't technology, you know. It was real human interaction, you know, like work it out, work it out, you know, with your words, you know, not online. Yeah, no, it was, it was real.

It was real back then. So the movie's Gail Daughtry and the celebrity sex tape. And so Casey, do you have any questions? about the movie. I know you're a movie maniac. You just made your movie. Yeah, I got a question about the movie. What is your favorite part of the movie? And I was ready to not like the question, Casey. And it was a fucking Grand Slam home run. You hit it out of the park. Because it's... And the way Joe's eyes lit up. And I don't know if you can see him, but Joe's eyes lit up. Sparkle.

This man, he just got a four-course burger dinner put down in front of him to hollow out because he's going to dig into this question with relish. My favorite part. I mean, you know, I touched upon it, but like I said. The relish is your favorite part? No, no, no. Oh, your favorite part of the movie. Part of the movie.

That was a question he asked. Yes, that's right. Okay. Favorite part of the movie. I'm telling you, it was meeting the font. It was meeting. Like you said before, yeah. So Casey, if you remember, he has.

actually did answer the question already. My second favorite part, because you know, let's, you know, I'm a game theater. I'll jump in. Yeah, let's get something. Was a fight scene that I did. I did a fight scene. Yeah. Yeah, I did like, it's all

choreographed and it's pretty fun. And you kind of talk about your approach like they're all fight scenes, right? It's all stage combat. It can be a scene. Every scene has a winner and a loser. Yes, that's right. And you ain't going to lose. I ain't going to lose. I'm going to

I'm going to take this person down, whether it's mentally, physically. I just want to, you know, it's about make sure I could, I could succeed and I'm good in this. As long as they're putting up the continuity in their coverage. As long as they have to use you. Yes. Yeah. Just say like tap out. If they tap out, again, even if we're not physical, like we'll be in a scene and then they'll see and they'll go, I'll be like, you know, give them a nod.

I won't do extra dialogue. I don't want to ruin the writer's vision. But just so they know that I saw the tap out, you know. They have a secret code with the director, as all actors do. Yeah. For when they need to go home, like they're, for when they're done. That's right. That's right.

When they feel like they're gonna pass out. When they feel like they've done, they've given it they're all, and they can give no more. That's such a disrespected art form acting and people think they have this cushy, you know, sort of like just make believe existence where they're totally coddled. And in fact, you know, it's constant constant. And you do often need to signal the director that it's just time to go home. And who was this fight scene with? Who was it with?

It was with John Slattery and a bunch of... Slattery will get you everywhere? Well, this slattery did. This latter he did. And some extras. And some extras. Oh, wow. Background artists, yes.

Background artists, yeah. an artist, yeah. I mean, a lot of people, you were talking about acting, a lot of people don't understand that. It can really save the world. Thank you. It's maybe the most important art form. It's getting ready to do it, I think. The money that's been going into science and this other stuff that has yet to reap any kind of dividend for us. Show me results, science. Show me facts. And meanwhile, we basically, not supported the arts at all in this country.

And some of the acting that's being done, I think, has been much more impactful. What was the movie I just saw? That almost saved the world? I was re-watching back to the future. The acting in this movie, it really makes you think about where do we call it? from, right? And what we do in this life, does it matter? Like, how do we affect those around us? Family? Yeah, family. What happened before? That's an important question. What happened before? Does a hoverboard work on water? Yep. Can it work on water? Or do you need to have

power? And what's going to happen later? Yeah. And what's going to happen later? And what happened even before that. What was before that? And how did that affect what happens now? And what about this moment? This moment. And this moment, we can affect what happens later. Yeah.

And we can go back to before. Yeah. And, of course, one of them starring our friend, Mary Steamburger, which must have gotten you a little excited. Yeah, it did. A steamed. It was harder to hollow her out. A steamed burger like that.

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