Hollywood Handbook - Joel Kim Booster, Our Moviemaking Friend

Episode Date: August 2, 2022

The Boys welcome back JOEL KIM BOOSTER to discuss other classic adaptations he can make for Hulu.Watch the video recording of this episode at Patreon.com/TheFlagrantOnes.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

this is a head gum podcast it's just funny to me it it was just like actually hilarious um that they thought i was like scared i guess it's so funny that they thought that you were actually scared when it's like i actually just had something else i needed to do and that's why i was leaving i was getting like texts that's why i was leaving during i guess that i guess what they thought were the scary parts of the movie but like i i had to have my phone on because it's not it you know it's a weekday like i have job you know i have a job like sorry that your work situation is such that you can just like sit down for like two hours i'm sorry people depend on me no it's over two hours it was over

two hours but it's like yeah so i'm like i get up you know and i have to answer some texts and i come back and they go like are you scared of the part where elvis is like shaking his hips and i'm like literally no that's not scary to me at all i am fine with that even though of course they told him he would be arrested if he did it at the big show. But I'm not nervous about that. What I'm nervous about is letting down my co-workers and not showing up and being a part of the solution for them. So I guess in a way, I was scared. But out of the movie or of any of the shake or the out the outfits get kind of crazy

at one point and it's a complete like anti-elvis on like your approach to your work and the people that depend on you like a lot of people were working really hard on that show and he decides to like go up there and just like do his thing that he was explicitly told not to do other musicians are on stage and this is a big moment for them. Like, they don't have, this is, I guess, a note on the movie, they don't interview, like, the keyboard player or whatever. No, they don't interview anybody.

No, they literally don't interview a single other character in the movie. And so it's like, is there a bias here? I think so. Joel, what do you think about this yeah joel you weigh in because i know you know about performing and all of it yeah there's a there's the thing that you have to understand about movie making um and i know that neither of you have made a movie i haven't made no no not a movie no it's it's hot it's hard and it's different than television what is made what is made i guess yes in this context i know it's not directed uh so like what like what does that word like actually mean because to me it usually means

directed yeah i guess i think of it that way too no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Well, that's why we're asking. This is why we're asking. Yeah, of course. I'm just saying it's a community of people coming together and assembling a story in a very specific way. And it's very clear to me from your notes about Elvis that you don't understand that.

Because what I will guarantee you is those interviews clear to me from your notes about Elvis that you don't understand that because what I will guarantee you is those interviews on the cutting room floor and they were cut for a reason. But play them over the credits. But Joel, play the interviews over the credits because there's nothing happening during the credits except an

Eminem song about how Eminem is a lot like Elvis and that he did sort of co-op black culture and popularize it that is not that's not a song that's a blooper that's a blooper actually an audio blooper yeah it's an audio blooper Eminem came to set was mic'd up and that was what he was doing so he just talks like that because it's rhyming like robert durst yeah exactly he got he got robert durst he does burp in the song but it was for a comedic effect yeah it was so embarrassing it was so embarrassing i guess when he's doing the triumph voice too the

triumph the comic dog voice and the song as i'm thinking about it does kind of sound like he's like struggling a little bit on the toilet yeah yeah okay it's tough um no but what i'm saying about interviews is every movie there is a series of interviews you interviewed people because i noticed in hunger games catching fire island that there's not an interview in the single entire I'm trying to help has it not been long enough we can have some jokes about this

I'm trying to give this thing a second wind you know what I mean the people looking just for Fire Island a lot of them have seen it but the people wondering oh there's another hunger games catching fire movie and it's this time it's on an island and you would think that they would be confusing because the original one was on an island as well different how would you ever know yeah i in a lot of ways because remember the movie takes place in north america um which is an island and in a lot of ways oh yeah yeah no i i wanted to talk about that

about north america being an island yeah okay go ahead you have isn't it isn't this huge this island um sort of but like compared to what compared to what compared to me i guess i mean that's my framing for a lot of what happens is i go like jesus i see a plate or something i go that fucking thing is big you could fit you know 50 of me on there. That's not how I think. That's not how I think, Sean. That's not how I think. I think very much outside of myself.

I think very much outside of myself. I think sort of Galaxy Brain is based on me. Wow. It's based on the way I think. I thought it was based on Thanos. No. No, a lot of people get that mixed up. Would you play Thanos? It's based on the way I think. I thought it was based on Thanos. No. No, a lot of people get that mixed up.

Would you play Thanos? I would play Theranos. Would you ever play Thanos? You would play Theranos? Yeah. I would play Elizabeth Theranos. I would play her. She snaps and technology that did not previously exist exists.

Wow. Wow. That's what she uses the Infinity Gaunt, exist. Wow. Wow. That's what she uses the Infinity Gauntlet for. What a boss. Talk about thinking outside yourself. To make blood testing better. Bigger. Yeah, better. Bigger and better.

Yes. That's all. The snap. We don't test enough blood. I am constantly trying to get my blood tested. And it takes so long. and the process is so hard you have to get it out of the body you know what i would really like it's so far is testing oh god blood in my body it's all in there why do i have to take it out they're always sticking stuff in and poking you with stuff every time you go to one of those buildings anyway it's

like well just while you're in there test the fucking blood and isn't it for me i find that whenever it is just like coming out that's when i don't need it to be tested you know what i mean whenever i'm just like having all this when it's shooting out all over the place yeah this is like the one time that i didn't actually need a test now i have it now it's pooling in my hands and i have it to give to someone if you had tested it last week maybe it wouldn't be shooting out every yes uh see i kind of think the opposite like while it is pooling in my hand i'm sort of like this was a happy accident okay this is a happy accident because because i'm and then i'm running over to the barrel and i'm saying test this please yeah here you go test this

please please test this i'm putting it and of course blood there and of course then you realize the barrel is attached to a pair of suspenders and it's one of these wall street jokers is wearing it because he lost his damn shirt the way the market is lately. 2008, he lost it. He still hasn't found it. And it's true. It's weird that anyone ever thought that that technology would work.

That she was able to fool anyone that you just put it in this barrel that someone's wearing. Yeah. And actually, the biggest problem with it was that you know upon putting your blood in the barrel i suddenly i realized there's not a good system in place for knowing when the barrel's already been in use so i look in somebody else's blood and i and and who knows how many people's blood actually because it's hard to tell

so then you get a test result and you go well i don't know if this was from my blood or the other. They used to have a sign that you flipped that said like, you know, blood in blood out. Yeah. But, but unfortunately these, these wall street jokers are always jumping around,

waving like buy, sell. And it makes the sign kind of rattle around and on its own yeah and now you're creating like a blood suicide like at a fast food restaurant just a lot of different bloods just to see i'll say the the sign was always confusing to me the sign was always confusing to me because when i see blood out i i really need i need the i need the inflection because sometimes you know it's like blood out you know blood out you know yeah i mean something very different than blood out joel i want to center your experience that you saw the big sick let's uh

let's let's talk about that let's get into that i saw the big sick and it was largely for me a movie about margot robbie in a bathtub yes look the message got through it doesn't like ultimately doesn't matter the detail of how it was delivered is like not what we're focused on. It's that movie called The Big Sick. Yeah, because it was sick what was going on.

Making me throw up. This country is sick, you know, and the financial state of our institutions is actually the thing that's making me the most ill right now. Really, is that so?

Because every time we Zoom, you are in a richer and richer place. It is. you are in a richer and richer place it is you are in a richer and visibly richer yes every time i see your background i see are those columns one new ornament yeah yeah all right do you have columns oops they're column firth they're beams they're they're not columns they're beams okay um so it's not it's not exactly the same and it's i wouldn't expect you to know the difference but um you know a lot of that is like the getting richer um this is a nice actually segue for me um it is based on the generosity of our guests and we have given a lot of very very funny people their start right here on this show wow i think last time we had you we were setting up like a stand-up cruise uh for you to get exposure you know internationally

and maybe where on the boat you learned a little something about islands that inspired a certain movie that's done well um and you're under no obligation to pay us back but kevin if you could pull up i had an item that i was curious whether you would want to donate to my background oh wow so so this this is a wayfair tufted low profile platform bed um kevin do you have the other image actually because i think it's important to see that so um the profile i don't know if we could get any closer but you know first there's some sticker shock i'll admit four thousand for me i'll be honest it's be it will not when you see this image where if you break down function by function yes the drink holder the massage lounge chair the usb charging port the removable storage stool the side storage the lift computer desk the bluetooth speaker and the air purifier this

is all on a bed that has sort of a tufted couch backing, adjustable headrest, and a mat. And a recliner, a massage lounge chair. A massage lounge recliner. I'm going to say, this actually feels kind of cheap. Yes. Well, now I know this is a steal. I'm a little worried that this thing is going to close up on me with how cheap it is, given all these features.

Well, let me say this this it's got three out of five stars which isn't ideal it's a 60 but there's only one review currently yeah let's look at the review just to see let's take a peek at the review the leather's okay not the greatest quality yeah what do you expect man look at the fucking features uh it was better in the lower priced smart bed with the Italian leather. Okay, maybe something else to look up. And now we're getting to the major issue in the

next sentence here. Major issue with the bed is the recliner, which is the main feature. More so than the air purifier. It doesn't attach to the bed, so it's just sitting there. That's confusing to me. so what does that mean it's not attached to the bed so you just get a recliner with it's just sitting there i mean the picture the image looks like it is attached to the bed you can put it up

right next to the bed how are you using this recliner that you need it to be you need it to move with the bed because i also go if you really want to attach the bed like get a piece of rope tie the recliner to the bed um so anyway it says if you recline it gets really weak as the structure is not strong enough to support a recliner it wob wobbles side to side, even if empty. How is it wobbling side to side? What is applying the pressure? And also, how do you know if it's empty? If you're reclined in it and lean too much to one side, the entire

thing will fall over. Sitting straight is a little more sturdy. A little more sturdy. The massage features just a vibration with different patterns not a true massager okay but what is a massage at the end of the day yeah i mean is a massage not just vibrating in different patterns like what and these in this reviewer's mind would it be this is from june 2nd 2022 as well that's over a month ago they have they may

have made improvements to a lot of this and now we get to the heart of it in the next one yes and now we find out where this review is really coming from the bluetooth speaker speaks in chinese and no directions come with the bed it has disgusting well and it gets grosser it gets grosser it has a disgusting well and it gets grosser it gets grosser it has a clock that's stuck in military time so they're against the troops and they're against our foreign allies so who what exactly would they like i really hope that the chinese bluetooth speaker is actually not speaking chinese it is speaking full english just in a really offensive chinese accent um and it cannot be changed and and even this even this racist member of apparently a sovereign nation who doesn't need the support of our military troops has to give it up that

the heater and fan built in is a nice touch but points away from the bed so it doesn't really help you when you're lying down so selfish that you're having a nice relaxing bed it's not for you you're in a bed and the fan to be pointed at you you're in the bed the fan and heater is for people who don't have a nice

bed like yours okay head and foot of the mattress portion is not supported properly as in the cheaper version. So it sinks. You will need to purchase some additional support to make it work for the price. It's a no, but I will probably just keep it as I've waited months for it and sold the Habanera bed that was made, that was better made, but had a useless chaise. Basically traded a useless chaise for a partially useful recliner. All right, let's really quickly back up there and say it's Habanera, not Habanero bed.

I don't know people thinking that a Habanero bed is this. A spicy bed. Wishful thinking on my part. Yeah. Wouldn't mind if there was a little more spice in my bedroom, you know what I mean? This is a good enough review that I would read this and I can't imagine

they're selling a lot of these. There's so many. Wait. Scroll down. Scroll down. That's the power of being the first reviewer. Different options. There's so many different options. Wow. Whoa. The Haryana Tech Smart Ultimate Italian Leather Bed Tufted.

That's the one thing that you cannot choose not to have. Yeah, I guess if you don't want it tufted for some reason, you can get the fuck out. I will say this looks like a 1950s version of what they think the future is. Well, look, Joel, you're the movie star.

And what I'll say is if, if one of these seems more appealing to you to purchase for me, I will accept that. I of course wanted the recliner, but I did not think that the recliner would fall over. If I lean to one side, when I initially asked you for it i will say sean just to clarify i'm not a movie star i'm a famous person who does movies

um and so i think that it makes movies you were saying before even though do you make it is there do you have a non-directing uh i have a producer credit? I have a producer credit. I have an executive producer credit. Okay. I have a writing credit. It's not on the wiki. It should be on the wiki. The writing credit is there. I'm seeing Brooke Posh, of course.

I got in there. So you're saying you did as much work as Brooke Posh? I got in there. I will say I did twice as much work as brooke posh nobody even knows who brooke posh is listening to this that's the goal okay yes if you're a really good producer you know it's nobody's talking about you nobody knows your name if people know if you're a producer and people know your name you done fucked up honey if no if no one's ever heard of you on a movie and you're the producer you've done your job okay because it means you never made a mistake

counterpoint harvey weinstein so your boy is that what he did to become so widely known was was a good thing was a positive thing well i'm just saying that people know who he is and he's a producer that yeah but that seems i think it was bad i think it was really bad and so that's actually we tend not to take a position on uh on this show on anything controversial but i'm going to align with hayes and say that producers shouldn't have that much name recognition so it must have been bad wow wow just like i come onto the podcast as a a bipoc creator a queer bipoc creator I come into your space as two het sis, two het sis

and this is the treatment that I am given I come in here trying to sort of defend my queer sister Harvey Weinstein and I met with just total and utter resistance

from two people who have no idea what it is to be a queer producer. A queer, famous producer, as I am and as Harvey is. I did not know that Harvey was one of your queer sisters. He really, that's how I identify him. I don't know how he identifies. I never, yeah. And I guess I don't know how he identifies. That way I never, yeah. And I guess I didn't read the whole article. He really, he really queered producing

by being a horrible evil villain. Interesting. In that way. I didn't realize that. I guess it's time for me to listen. Yeah, I think it is. This week on the Patreon, Carl and Nassan rank the football positions. I guess it's time for me to listen. Yeah, I think it is. Hollywood Hamburg. This week on the Patreon,

Carl and Nassan rank the football positions, Sean and Hayes tease an upcoming pro version, and the flagrant ones are mostly talking all things basketball. Check out these bonus episodes and the video with Joel Combooster from today's episode at patreon.com slash the flagrant ones. Hollywood Hamburg. Eating better is easy with factors. Delicious, ready-to-eat meals.

Every fresh, never-frozen meal is chef-crafted, dietitian-approved, ready-to-go in just two minutes. Speaking of ready-to-go in just two minutes, Chef Kevin is here with his new show, The Chef Kevin Factor, in just two minutes chef kevin is here with his new show the chef kevin factor where he creates fresh never frozen meals now this is different kevin i just want to i just want to establish it's none of this like here's a like a pile of ingredients like this is the meal the meal has to be ready it's not a recipe okay this is the meal you cook the full meal for us now okay yeah you don't just send us a bunch of stuff you had laying around in your cabinet you're actually doing the cooking

and there are 35 different options to choose from every week including calorie smart protein plus and keto which is this it's a little bit of all of them. Okay. Okay, it shouldn't be. There are also more than 60 add-ons to help you stay fueled up and feeling good all day long. How many add-ons? And what are some of them? It's one big add-on, and it's you on your bed. You're so tired after you eat my meal. The promise is the meal makes us sleepy. You've been pushing that so much.

You're saying that you will be added on to your bed yeah your bed plus one that's the opposite of what this is supposed to do supposed to help you stay a lot of these i know give you a ton of energy they have like smoothies and things like that reservation for two me walking in my bedroom what's the second it's you and your bed bed i guess clippy fuel up fast with Factor's restaurant-quality meals that are ready to heat and eat wherever you are. Pancake smoothies and more. Discover a wide variety of easy options for the entire day,

like breakfast, midday bites, and more. No, we didn't even... This is not even up for consideration, so let's just hear what the actual meal was. What was the food? I don't want to go to bed. It's very simple. It's one huge chicken nug bed. It's very simple. It's one

huge chicken nugget. Sign up and save. We've done the math. Factor is less expensive than takeout. Every meal is dietitian approved to be nutritious and delicious. Head to factormeals.com slash theboys50 and use code theboys50 to get 50% off. That's code theboys50

at factormeals.com slash theboys50 to get 50% off. That's code theboys50 at factormeals.com slash theboys50 to get 50% off. Be a better you in 2024 with Babbel, the science-backed language learning app that actually works. Don't pay hundreds of dollars for private tutors or waste hours on apps that don't really help you speak the language. And the question that I always always get people stop me and they say like hey i like i i trust you i know like you when you endorse a product it's something that you really use and care about but there's one language i'm trying to learn and that's body language so can babble teach me body language yes babble now has visual in-person lessons part of their quick 10-minute

lessons that they do for other languages handcrafted by over 200 language experts to help you start speaking a new language in as little as three weeks babble is designed by real people for real conversations and that includes body-based conversations what does it mean when you drop someone off after a nice date and they turn around at the door and they take their little index finger and they kind of like draw it towards them they're pulling it what does that mean does their whole finger hurt i wonder if they spotted a spider web or something. They're trying to pull down the spider web. Yeah. But I've seen this too after a lot of dates.

And I need and have needed something like Babel to figure out what the heck is this person doing with their finger? Because it looks like an emergency. I know I'm supposed to do something or how about those people that stand in the street they're kind of like they've got like almost like police clothes on it may be almost yeah and they're standing in the middle and as i'm driving and i'm cruising they're holding their hand up for like a high five almost and they're really aggressively like pushing it out i'm like am i supposed to drive get out of the car yes or just do it out

the window as i'm going that's what i've been doing dangerous yeah but some of these very subtle body language cues have escaped me and many listeners i. Babbel's tips and tools are approachable, accessible, rooted in real-life situations, which I have all the time, and delivered with conversation-based teaching so you're ready to practice what you've learned in the real world. Studies from Yale, Michigan State University, and others. Can't feel good to be others there. Continue to prove Babbel is better. One study found that using babble for 15 hours is equivalent to a full semester at college babble has over 60 million subscriptions

sold all 14 all of their 14 award-winning language courses are backed by their 20-day money-back guarantee here's a special limited time deal for our listeners right now get 55 off your babble subscription but only for our listeners at Babbel.com slash the boys. Get 55% off at Babbel.com slash the boys, spelled B-A-B-E-L.com slash the boys. B-A-B-B-E-L. B-A-B-B-E-L.com slash the boys. Rules and restrictions may apply.

With Babbel, we can't promise it'll always be easy, but you'll always be glad you did it. Kind of like this podcast, except it is easy for me. Hey, guys. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that finds and cancels your unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, and helps lower your bills. You can see all your subscriptions in one place, and if I see something I don't want, I can cancel it it with a tap i never have to get on the phone with customer

service the subscriptions are insidious they're the scourge of our modern life and you never realize what you're subscribing to or that you're still being charged i know that i was about 19 dresses into receiving each one of the 27 dresses from the movie 27 dresses before i found out how much it was costing yes that they intended to send me by the way you'll this will shock you 54 dresses if i did not cancel and i know, I think also by like dress 14, 15, I think it starts to become clear. Like these aren't the dresses. Oh no. They were not from the movie. They didn't resemble anything from the movie.

They were not, they were either way too big or way too small for a human to wear. And one of them was a dressing. Yeah. One of them was, was, it was a vinaigrette it was a raspberry vinaigrette it was a french raspberry vinaigrette dressing they'll even try to get you a refund for the last couple months of wasted money and negotiate to lower your bills for you by up to 20 all you have to do is take a picture of your bill and rocket money takes care of the rest they have over 5 million users and have helped save its members an average

of 720 a year with over 500 million dollars in canceled subscriptions and that was i mean just to be fully transparent that 500 million was most of that was the, the dresses. Well, yeah. I mean, you're talking about Hollywood memorabilia. You're talking about like ornate gowns, you know, in some cases. And so that was, uh, yeah,

that was costing me a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot. Stop wasting money on things you don't use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to rocket money.com slash the boys. That's rocket money.com slash the boys rocket money.com slash the boys that's rocketmoney.com slash the boys rocketmoney.com slash the boys well let's help you tell more of your stories joel i know like uh you i know you

have a lot more in you uh we've been shopping some stuff around for you okay to and people are basically saying like run it back the clicks on this thing on your movie are like through the roof and so like let's get some more of these clicks uh adaptations that's what they're feeling like is part of what worked it's part of the recipe people really enjoyed that part of it updating a classic you know these stories have been around for a long time for a reason and can we modernize them and can we make it feel fresh this this wonderful uh nuanced tale can we make it um um relevant for the new generation. Yeah. And vacation,

party. So, of course, can we be partying? Can we be partying as well? Yes, of course. For anyone that hasn't seen Fire Island, it's like basically Joel and his friends, they throw a huge party. It's a fucking... Everyone goes swimming. Oh my God.

Splat getting splashed by the waves. They throw the biggest party in the whole town of the year. It's Project X on steroids and acid. It's fucking epic sauce. So I think that element we definitely want to keep. And we have been on your behalf talking to some producers, some studios, some directors, which we know you need help with that aspect.

Right, right, right, right. So points for both of you on this deal if it goes through. Points. Points. Points. you on this deal if if it goes through points points um but i uh i think one thing that would be cool is how do we party up some classics um some of the some of the producers we talked to would prefer if you know kind of one for them one for you if every other movie you and your friends who were partying were straight okay they mentioned you were talking you were talking to harvey i i can't remember we talked to so many people um but like you know what the first the first

i'll pitch one right away and this is i just want to say like the the the idea behind this is like by visibility sort of and so like oh i see i see that's kind of what this is and i'm definitely the person to tell that story it well that that that was the thinking and so us too you know we've seen this story many times but have we seen a true party animal sherlock holmes and are you the person to bring that into the modern area with Coups Hound of the Baskervilles? A horny fuck machine Sherlock Holmes who can't stop drinking, smoking, and getting laid on the beach. And maybe there's a mystery. I don't know if we need it.

And he's bi. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. In this one, in the next one. Sorry, I really thought you would know this. It's you switching. One straight one day we're bi. Yes. Oh, because I am 50%.

I'm half bi. Uh-huh. In a lot of ways. Okay. I identify as half bi. On which side? So, like, on the left, you know, the left side. Oh, okay.

And so, as a half bi person, oh, well, mom, obviously. It's like mom, because mom is gay and dad is straight. Got it. Okay. Everybody knows that. Moms are gay and dad is straight.

Moms are gay. That's right. I'm half bi on my mom's side half by on my mom's side moms are gay mommies are gay mommies are gay dad is straight mummies yeah yeah um can you say the title one more time i missed that uh coos hound of the baskervilles coos hound coos hound of the baskervilles oh we're open to poon i mean like we you know we're not locked in on the title i think it worked it's testing pretty well um uh so we obviously can adjust for talent the right piece of talent we'd be open to to moving the title but what were you

asking about the testing process um so people responded to coos hound people knew yeah the marks on that were people knew what that meant they like perked up and their heads turned you know yeah no i yeah it was like most of the food court honestly was sort of looking at me like this guy's got something interesting to say okay we just went and shouted different titles. What were some of the other ones you shouted? Well, I mean, they weren't all for the same movie. I mean, this is why we wanted to lead out with this one because we thought this could be really good.

Frankenstoned, we were thinking you're getting really high and you have like um have bolts in your neck and that one you could be you know um whatever orientation you want like whatever whoever you want to be the stripping but you'd be you'd be giving them a a monster oh a monster a monster walloping sexually yeah yeah yeah and and i do love sort of the imagery of a gay like a big a big gay guy big gay frank it's throwing smoking throwing a little girl into the lake that's what we do big gay guy throw a little girl in like okay i mean that these are the stories these are the stories that we're trying to tell that have

not been told no for so long like and by the way as a marginalized figure frankenstein like that allegory of like you know he's ultimately he's not a monster like uh the townspeople are treating him unfairly and you know maybe if he just you know gave a monster walloping sexually to some of these townsfolk they'd realize and throw in the little girl in the lake i think he's gonna throw a lot of yeah he's gotta throw the i think a lot of people a lot of people know about rupaul's drag race they know about you know now fire island they're very familiar with the works of bow and yang but you know i think like that's all very surface level gay community stuff and we're not seeing in the lake yeah nobody's throwing girls in lakes and that is like a huge and i'm actually a little nervous about

that part because i it's like it's like opening up a part of the community i know i'm saying i'm nervous about it though aren't you ever nervous about things you want to do always basically everything yeah this show included yeah i was nervous coming back on here i'm panicking listen thank you for remembering that you'd been on before joel that's really nice well you know what's not really nice is sean forgetting my second appearance on the show this is technically my third and he only mentioned the first well last time you were that was shared yeah i think of like i think of the first one as like a true joel can boost her joint but the the other one was like she was stepping on a lot of your best stuff no who's that who are we talking about me me tray me meet yeah that sounds right i think it's right mitra mitra abendajak why i want to

say zendaya is mitra oh yeah yeah sure sure sure sure sure that that girl that nice girl very like nice girl nothing really good kid not a lot going on not a lot going on behind the eyes doesn't have it doesn't have it doesn't not like it doesn't you know not everyone has to have it. No. No. Not like my friends Theranos and Weinstein have it. You wouldn't appreciate the sunshine without the rain.

I do think we are lucky to have some of these characters in our lives. I said this stripping news before. Some people who are in this room were really responding some of these characters in our lives i said the stripping news before no one really responds some people who are stripping news in this room were really responding to it so i do want to just like make sure everyone uh heard the stripping news yeah the stripping news i'm just like from our conversations about this people sort of asking like do we people instinct is like no we don't bring kevin back for this

kevin is not involved that's that's the first instinct that's kind of like the first thought version but i wonder if we do bring kevin back and like you kill him or something beat his ass yeah you know like just to show like hey yes we are aware of this we are talking about it and now we're so awful to me the last time it was me solo i'm sorry oh i'm not talking about this kevin you want to kill it but you want to kill him though if you want to kill kevin this kevin did you see the original shipping i can't stop you the original shipping the original shipping news oh no no i didn't i thought you were talking about something kevin had done i thought because like i thought that's what sort of his role on the show is is to ship the news kevin does ship the new like he uh i mean

and you can do your little segment on this, Kevin, where you ship the news. No, no, no. Guys, can we? Kevin wants the news to be married. You brought up his segment. I don't know if you wanted to hear. No, I really want to back up and say I'm so sorry. I was texting when you got into that last bit.

And that's why I thought you were talking about Kevin. That's okay. That's okay. Because I was supposed to be in another meeting right now, and I was being texted about that. And I really fucked up. I really fucked up both in that I'm supposed to be. No, not at all.

I'm happy to miss it, in fact. But we just had a little time zone hiccup. That's all. Yeah. Well, thank you for being here with us and i think this meeting actually may be more lucrative ultimately because we have all these big movies that we're talking about the stripping news um killing kevin maybe there's something in kevin's segment i mean basically he what he thinks all the newscasters are married like every time there's like two people at a desk,

he thinks they should be married. They should be. The original, it's set in Newfoundland. It's a very chilly place, and it's Kevin Spacey. Can we just talk about Newfoundland really quick? The laziness of it all? Right. They had no more names left in them.

That's the best you can do. Newfoundland. Oh, we found some new land. Everything could be named that, gang. We could name everything that. Every apartment is a pre-war apartment. Unless you're first, Newland newfoundland unless you were the first thing that got found uh-uh or i guess second but you don't get that name you know because at once like if it's really late in and we've been finding a lot

of land and then it's like we we'll name this one newfound land. It's like, well, hold on. Don't we? I got like Italy and France already. And then we're just settling on this. I mean, even just in the surrounding area. Nova Scotia. That's an amazing name.

An incredible name. Where did they dug deep for nova scotia right i'd like to shake the hand aggressively and do the thing where i try to pull them in close of whoever it was that named Nova Scotia. Yeah. In the first movie, the main guy, when he's a kid, he is thrown in a lake by his dad,

interestingly. Okay. So Son of Frankenstein vibes. Son of Frankenstein vibes. Right.enstoned yep which i think as you said i think it'd be i mean it's like almost like a genderqueer version of the traditional because like you had talked about this is like traditionally the daddies are straight we know yeah and so this is traditionally like

again and they're throwing girls so we're buying they're throwing girls in the lake normally and so we're like kind of flipping it on his head we're like where daddy is doing this now and he's throwing a boy in the lake and so i wonder we bring you back in the you still have the trunks from fire island the trunks jesus christ yes i have you have that you do you got the trunks yeah i have most of them what you you think they're gonna you they're gonna let someone else wear those after my junk has been all inside it for 14 hours give me a break uh okay i wonder if we i'm not gonna yeah i was gonna say also partially we could be renting out these trunks to people who want to try it on after you're that was that was gonna be my suggestion as

well we don't use these in the movie we use them to finance the movie yes oh oh okay that's where we're getting a lot of the production budget yes and we have people because obviously people are going to be putting these on and say like oh i'll bring these back at the appointed time and then they're just going to start like running you know so we will have to have like some bounty situation involved to like go get deposit and late fees and massive late fees i mean i would like to put people into permanent debt yeah yeah but the trunks for this one since it's newfoundland cable knit right cable net trunk okay you're in cable net trunks and you kick the shit out of kevin's oh well i mean as long as we can get him back that's the thing is i won't do it without kevin

okay so that's what i was saying while you were while you were texting because people were I mean, as long as we can get him back. That's the thing is I won't do it without Kevin. Okay, so that's what I was saying while you were texting because people were pitching, let's not involve him in this at all. But we had a feeling you'd want him. Yeah. That's what I said. That's giving him a free pass. Mm-hmm.

Literally take away his producer credit. Yeah, no, no, no, no. No, because we're going to get this movie. yeah no no no no we're gonna get this movie my next project is going to be a movie starring Kevin Spacey produced by Harvey Weinstein

and also production designed by Theranos that's her pivot beautiful she's got taste she She's got style. Her whole

business was basically just production design. A little machine that doesn't work. It's empty inside. It has no pieces. Like a science lab. It looked like a science lab. She's in it.

She's in it. You know? She's in it. You just need it to look good for one angle. People just walk in the room and you just have to buy that this is what you're saying it is. And then you throw it all out. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I had another movie idea.

This one, I don't think we need to change the title. It's All the President's Men. And it's just a Camp David just party fuckfest. Camp David, been there. Got my got HPV

at Camp David. See, it's writing itself. It's writing itself. This now is feeling like, okay, I'm sitting down to watch this thing and have some fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In this, and you're thinking like, who, okay, like Camp David,

like, who's David? Unconventional pitch, but we do have him. It's David Krumholz. Oh. Yes. Maybe not what you were picturing. Literally, you buy Icon, David Krumholz. Yes.

Fully buy on both sides. Synonymous with bisexuality. Mm-hmm. Dave Krumholz. From num3ers. And he's playing himself. He's playing David Krumholz. Yeah, and he goes, and he says, like,

in the middle of, like, a big orgy, he says, I'm putting up numbers, but he says it done three years just as a little nod to the the show that he was a part of um i would love to go to a camp a gay sex camp run by david kreml's i would love to see what sort of structurally that looks like um what is the day-to-day? Is it sort of planned activities? Is it loosey-goosey? What does that all entail?

What I can tell you is that at one time in my life, I did attend a celebrity date auction. I'm not sure if I've told this story on the podcast before, but Andrew Keegan was being auction auctioned off it was for charity he was not getting a lot of keegan he was huh cult leader andrew keegan yes i don't know how the camp nowhere that wasn't a call it was just like a camp it's a really fun camp where there's no adults it's not yeah i want adult christopher lloyd but they so he was on stage he was not getting a lot of bids and david krumholtz came up and took the mic and started talking about how big

andrew keegan's dick was to try to drive up the bed and said like you know i go surfing with this guy and i've seen him change he's really he's really packing a lot of heat downstairs so i think he should be going for more money than he is did david crummles think that if you won the auction you got to have sex with the celebrity you do whatever at least on the table in his mind yes i mean that body's yours for whatever i mean you're paying like a lot what did he end up going for do you remember sean i don't have the numbers in front of me unfortunately i'm just going i'm going through my files and i you know it's all a jump my bookkeeping leaves a lot to be something tells me that the total that andrew keegan went for is not the marquee part of that story. Um, for, for Sean,

you know, it would be, yeah, it would be, it would be a pleasant button to the story. I guess if I had written the number down, I do not recall, unfortunately. Okay. So camp David, all the president's men, um, but said, but we would have to say it in a gay way. All the president's men, if we're not changing the name to something gay, we would have to say it in a gay way all the president's men if we're not changing the name to something gay you'd have to say it at in a gay way which i'd love to hear from both of you now actually okay yeah i'm happy to do them i'm absolutely happy to do that i'll do it right now ready okay this is me saying all the president's men in a gay way all the president's men normal see pretty normal to us it's normal pretty normal that was almost completely normal yeah and that is in that way wrong um because we're not normal in fact we're not normal. In fact, a lot of people consider us abnormal, myself included.

It's not right what we do. It's not right, but it's okay. You think it's okay. So it's not bad, but it's weird? Yeah, I guess I'm acting weird a lot of the time as well. Yeah. Yes, I can be pretty that? Yeah. Yeah. I guess I'm acting weird a lot of the time as well. Yeah. Yes, I can be pretty weird.

Okay. Yeah. I have a lot of work to do. I, and I'm, I understand that. Okay. Joel,

you got, wait, you're, are you the only EP credit on this movie? What the fuck? Um, I might be, I don't know.

Um, I, I didn't pay attention to who was getting credits and who now that looks almost bad than like the other you know who did pay attention brooke bosh but she she just this might be burning her up she just got a produced by credit like and she could have had whatever she wanted and so what why is she being like no thanks i'll just take produced by on this yeah i'll say this i'll say this i'll say this and i i think this is true and i'm not um this is not a part of the bit but isn't in movies it's the opposite of television in that like executive producer is actually lower than the producers and producer is the better credit you want just produced by an executive producer is sort of meaningless although i will say i put in the work it wasn't a vanity credit i was producing um but on television you want to be the executive producer

and then producer is sort of a lower rung what do you do i'm sitting probably sure that's true yeah yeah yeah they brought out a ghb bottle that said ghb on the outside you wouldn't write that guys guys come on this is for the audience they said he said not our audience no no no no no they don't need to be handheld like that they don't need to be handheld like that no sir smart i was watching the gray man last night wolf and and i could tell that it's a movie for smart people like me because at one point the gray man gets asked about this tattoo on his arm and he goes that's some guys some greek guy's name he has to push a rock up a hill now i joel i know who he's talking about i know but they never say it snagglepuss they never say they never say it's snagglepuss

it's snagglepuss and then they ask him does he ever get the rock to the top of the hill and he goes i'll let you know he's snagglepuss in his mind like that that's amazing and and i feel so amazing like that in what way in what situation in what i'm thinking about getting a tattoo i'm considering it a stagopus tattoo well now that's on the that's definitely on the board shot up the charts to you know

right around number one for me can I ask a question about the key art sure poster vertical orientation Joel is kind of like front and center one of the most prominent faces on the poster great looks great everyone's having a good time billboard

we're going landscape on the billboard now the view has been expanded kevin maybe you can pull this up fire island billboard or like whatever and now there's a guy who wasn't that visible in the vertical poster but he's like a blurry guy and now you can see him and now he's like the biggest guy you know quickly hayes as we talk about visuals do we want want to discuss the fact that Kevin has blended his shirt with his couch so that his head is just floating in the suit window? What's the thinking there today, Kev? I like watching green screen, like, snafus, and so I was trying to do one of that myself,

and it seems to be working. Well, you nailed it my friend you nailed it wow okay I really thought Fire Island Billboard would pull up the movie I'm so sorry I'm so sorry go back to the first one

I really did not want this is that not it? underneath the photo scroll down you see related images I think Is that not it? If you, in the, underneath the photo, underneath the photo, scroll down, scroll down. You see related images. I think that is what he's talking about, right?

Yeah. And so even in the billboards, I've seen that guy in the left. You can see the entire guy. Oh, wow. But he's just like blurry. And he's like the biggest thing

in the frame. I'm just sort of wondering, like, can we get him? Who was that? Can that guy do the show, possibly? That guy was really prominently featured in the interviews that we had to cut. Why were those cut?

What was it about the interviews that they had to be cut? Not every movie needs interviews. Not every movie needs interviews not every movie needs interviews you do them you do them yeah you do them but can i can i can i can i ask a related question what did eminem say on your set when he was miked up in the bathroom and why didn't that make it into the movie? Oh, he did a beautiful song. He did a beautiful song.

Oh my God, it was an aria. He sang in as though he were a young boy. As though he were a young boy. He sang this aria so high. He sang an aria as though he were a young boy. He sang an aria as though he were a young boy. Sang beautifully like a girl in the way that young boys are wont

to do. And we didn't know what he was saying because he was singing it in a different language. None of us could quite pinpoint what it was. But it was transporting us to a different world. world yeah so that's basically what happened we

didn't end up using that either that didn't use that yeah in the bloopers but i guess it would have yeah distracted maybe well gang i hate to interrupt but it's time go ahead joel no no it's not important you go you know what i hate to, but it's time for me to ship the news. Al Roker and Hoda Kotb were seen together again this morning. Traffic and weather to get... Traffic and weather to get together on the 8th? More like Al and Hoda together on some dates. Here's my top vacation getaway spots for the news' cutest couple.

Number one, Cabo. My dad went there a few weeks ago with his friend Scott, and they had a lot of fun. His friend Scott and him went on a Cabo vacation? Just let him do it. Number two, Phoenix. We'll unpack this gothic after. Yeah.

Phoenix, Arizona. This quiet getaway town is perfect for an afternoon hike. And coming in at number three, the Czech Republic. This landlocked country in Central Europe is the perfect getaway for the news' cutest couple. The climate and tourism is a must for lust. That's it. Everyone. Okay.

That is everyone. That is everyone. I have some questions. Phoenix. First of all, the worst city in America. I'm willing to say I'm, I'm so sorry to alienate your listeners in Phoenix.

Our listeners, I mean, they get FXX on Hulu or, you know, they get that at Phoenix. A lot of the testing happens there. They have loot.

They have Apple TV loot in Phoenix. Yeah, well, I said what I i said it was awful for me um and i think it's um a bad place that shouldn't exist wow okay yeah what were you there for what were you doing there um comedy both times i will say uh it's not a comedy town did you do the netflix special there no sir i did not okay no i didn't why usually yeah i didn't want to do my comedy special and you didn't do it at red rocks it the whole the whole thing the whole city looks like you ship up to Sedona for the special and then just stay in Phoenix for most of the trip?

That I would have considered. That I would have considered, for sure. Do it at the Vortex Church? What's that? Well, Sedona, Arizona... Man, Eminem should put that in his song. Back up. Back up. Back up.

What is Sedona? what is Sedona what is Sedona it's a city in Arizona it sits on places where like different plates connect in a way that causes sacred vortexes sacred vortexes that are like healing properties and stuff

and there's actually on one of the main vortexes there there's a, on one of the main vortexes there, there's a big church built. And you can go there. Is it dedicated to the vortex, or is it a Christian church? Because if it was dedicated to the vortex, I'd go. That's a question for the church it's methodist i really wanted to know if you were um if you did your comedy special there because to me actually when i hear church

what i think of is a comedy club that's where i go to worship and comedians are our modern day preachers and philosophers do you know pete and prophets prophets, prophets even. Yes. Yes. Talk about a prophet, Pete Holmes? Yes. Prophets are through the roof. The Holy Spirit is speaking through him. When he talks about gum on his shoe.

The messenger, I know. He's channeling something up there. I mean, it's just unbelievable. I did a show, I'm not going to say where, a small venue probably less than 100 it's a bar show um that happened to advertise a bar show a bar show come on now man uh bar show it was advertising pete holmes and i was on the show as well. And I saw on the, they posted a screenshot of someone on the Facebook event to posted, um, we're driving two and a half hours to see Pete Holmes. We're so excited at your, to see him at your show. We can't wait to see Pete Holmes. And I, and they were like sort of touting thising this comment as like,

oh, look, people are willing to drive two and a half hours to see our show. And I was like, no, babe. They're driving two and a half hours to see Pete Holmes because they don't understand that Pete Holmes is going to do 15 minutes tops at this bar show. And I was like, you've got to tell them not to come. You have to tell them.

You have to reply and say, don't come. Don't come. Don't bother. This is not reply it's a don't come don't come this is not stay home this is not worth it there's a good chance pete holmes won't show up babe stay home and watch the like street fighter character job interviews again like you you have you have so much of the content available at your house man on the doing Batman on the show. Watch the entire Pete Holmes show. Yeah, come on. Watch Crashing, babe. Watch Crashing. Watch Crashing. Joel, are you

tired? No. Not sleepy? Not sleepy not a minute. Not a minute in my life have I ever been sleepy. It's okay to be tired, Joel. No! We all get sleepy. No! I get really sleepy. It's okay to be tired, Joel. No! We all get sleepy. No! I get really sleepy.

And I'll tell you what, when people accuse me of being sleepy, what's the first thing I say? No! I don't know. I don't want to go to bed. I don't need a nap. No.

I fight it and I fight it. And I'm worried that it's happening today. I love to gaslight people when they accuse me of being sleepy. That's my favorite thing. No, you're sleepy, actually. No. Yeah, you're sleepy. No one is sleepy.

Why are you asking me that? Are you sleepy? Is that why you asked me that, Hayes? Because you're sleepy? Because you're sleepy and you wanted to project that on somebody else for a moment? Joel's Netflix

special out today. It's called The Closer. No. But I'd like to watch you get there on your own i don't need to help you i don't need to help you it's called uh super nature nope what does that closer though wildly wildly that is though that that that feels closer.

Okay. Psychosexual. Yeah, that's it. That's the one. You wanted to call it Psycho Bunny, yes? But there was a trademark issue? Yep. I know exactly that reference.

I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm going with you. I'm yes anding. I'm wearing that reference right now. Yeah. Jack Hayes is a draws, man. Bye. He's always got... Hollywood Hamburg.

That was a HeadGum Podcast.