Hollywood Handbook - LilMookieB, Our Gratitude Friend

Episode Date: January 26, 2021

MOOKIE BLAIKLOCK aka LilMookieB returns to tell The Boys about his journey becoming positivity and also answers some questions. Check out all the new podcasts and videos at Patreon.com/TheFlagrantOnes.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. No, there's real people doing the work on the other end. There has to be someone to actually send it. To actually send it. No, it has to get distributed. I just hate how everyone's so entitled where it's like, oh, my stuff got distributed. It's like, no, someone distributed it. And so I'm speaking with Buena Ventura Distribution, and they say... You have to. You have to talk to them.

We're so excited, but we have a really exciting announcement and possibility for you. You know, the release window is upended. It's like the game has completely changed in terms of theatrical and home distribution. And this movie is like so exciting. We really think we can do something different with it. I think I showed this movie to you.

It's a history of karate. I've seen it yes it's not it's it's documentary style but there's no documentary footage there's no footage it's uh it's people talking about the history of karate it deals with trans issues as well but i think in a really uh good way in a holistic way yes in a way that's like very natural to the thing but it's like timely and i don't know it's connected to karate and it's a lot of you it's a lot of you talking about your experience with karate which has been such a big part of your life and i love when people put themselves into the documentary in this way, where it's like, gives this human element of like,

yeah, I guess I thought I knew what karate was. But when I hear about Hayes man doing karate, punching kicks, kicking the wood. Now I think, Oh, this is neat.

And I can't do it. The room's too small for me to do it. Of course. In the room. Of course. In the room. Of course. You know, the camera would be crushed. No, we never see you do it, but you tell a lot of stories of how good you are at it

and times that you've actually gotten out of some pretty hairy situations with your karate. And so they say, this is really exciting we're going to do simultaneous window for this where it will go in theaters and the trash at the same time yes and i'm like what are you talking i don't i don't want i don't want it to go in the trash oh well you don't think you do yeah yes exactly they're like this so yes i and they explained i'm sort of like trapped in like the old way of thinking of things but what will happen is it gets theatrical one day for awards and then simultaneously the trash man will come and put the movie in and when he's picking up

yes the people's trash he will put the movie in the trash so they so their empty bin will now have a single item in it which will be your movie and by the way identity theft is a major problem in this country and people are going through each other's trash and getting their mail and getting, guess what? Now your movie. Now the movie. And I'm like, so what is it like a DVD? Is it like a thumb drive? And they're like, no, it's like the whole reel.

The actual like three reels of film will go in the trash. I'm like, okay, I don't. Isn't that like it could catch on fire or something? Because it's like outside in the hot bin. And they're like, yeah, we hope so. We hope so. Well, think about the news then. The movie caught fire on the news?

Literally, you turn on the news and it's like blah blah blah president what's his name did another dumb ass yeah and then it's like look at this movie on fire he's on fire hey welcome to hollywood handbook and insider's guide to kicking butt and dropping names names in this red carpet linebacker wow it's so exciting when we have a guest come back who is not even the same guest that he was when we first had that we see this guy and okay to look the same but to right or may or maybe even a little better and to look actually much better and to look very good yes and to look so good but to say okay this is the same guy as before no he's actually doing a lot of different stuff and so we know mookie from before yes i know mookie people ask me you know mookie i go yeah i know

mookie i thought i knew mookie and so then we say, what's Mookie doing now? And then we hear, oh, Mookie's actually doing this new thing. And we say, okay, well, maybe it's time to have Mookie back on. And we know, and let's talk about this. Mookie, Lil Mookie B is here. And we welcome you to the show. And I'd like for you to just say your piece for a little bit. And so if Mookie could just say his piece and as we go forward okay it's okay of me to talk right now thank you guys uh

for having of me uh big fans big fans your guys are big fans and um you know my piece is that um I am full of gratitude of being here today. I, you know, people who listen to me know that I spread of love and positivity on the internet. And, you know, I don't ever want anyone to think that I am confined to one space and that is my own podcast. I would like to spread of my message of other podcasts and you two were gracious enough to have me to have me, to have me back.

And I do appreciate of you saying that I look better than last time. I have lost a lot of weight since then. And that is not to fat shame my old self, but I do look better now. And I'm happy to sort of just, you know, be here and, you know,

widen my already wide audience. And, you know, I don't really know what else to say, and I can keep talking, and I will. That's good. No, you can definitely stop right now. That's great. Great. Thank you.

And I do want to say, when I said before that you look good, that you look better, because, yes, you have lost a lot of weight, it's different, right? You know how it's different. Well, we, of course, can be positive about all kinds of bodies body positivity is not just you know uh confined to bodies that are unconventionally attractive yes and that and that's really true and so people remember from the last time i have been i just if i could chime in on this because this is a topic that i i actually am really passionate about i have been positive about some of the worst bodies you could ever imagine and that's not oh i'm so great i'm this hero look at me it's literally just how i feel and who i am and

i just live in this place of acceptance now. Thanks largely to some of what I have heard, Lil Mookie B, on your podcast and seen on your TikTok page. I love that you said that. Opened me up in this way. I love that you're saying this. It was making me start to see, oh, wow, I can be positive about bodies that are truly disastrous and it doesn't hurt me it doesn't cost me a dime and i would just see a body that 10 years ago 25 years ago i would have looked away and just gone i'm gonna stare at this and actually make some comments about it some uh some lewd

comments and uh and kind of gas this person up a little bit who you know who's in front of me at the bank or whatever um so what does that sound like can we just do a little example of that what like what that's saying you don't have to like describe the body or anything yeah no i'll do it yeah no i'll just and maybe mookie is giving this could actually be a great first lesson where mookie is showing you you he hears how you're being positive about a body that you see at the bank and mookie's showing you a direction for that so yeah so a body that you anybody you want to imagine steps okay so yeah my friend sean and i are going of the bank together and and i just and i see it and i sort of take it in and i make this face and then i say okay grandma bought the

stuffing and then of course it's my responsibility as a person with empathy to step in and say sean hold on let's take a breath let's think about what we're saying now actually all right now i'm confused is that stuffing comment positive or negative it's so positive and i maybe i can clarify i go grandma brought the stuffing okay and the mashed potatoes okay okay so i don't know that there's anything to teach here since you are doing exactly as I've taught. And that is to say that when we see a body that would be unappealing to, let's say, society at large, that we would look upon it and say something nice about it rather than say something out loud mean about it you know what i mean we would say that we we now we now have the um the sort of empathy the willingness to change enough to say something out loud about somebody's body that is positive well and i committed the crime so long of staying silent and not making a comment on people's bodies at all. And I'm saying at the bank, at the grocery store, on the street, I was just really committing thought crimes.

Yeah. By looking at, thinking about the body and keeping it all inside. And now I'll just come right out and I go, whoo, grandma brought the stuffing. And I don't think it's necessarily, you know, I, I think that people may be like, you think it's totally impossible to say something nice about somebody or somebody who has a physical appearance that is unappealing to you. And, you know, it's, I think people don't even realize, and this is something I learned

in therapy, or I sort of came to a conclusion of after a therapy session was that like you know you can go up to somebody and if they're not necessarily appealing to you physically you can say like hey I love your hat you know what I mean like you can still say something nice that's still a part of their body even though it rests atop it I wouldn't say it that way but I would say but something like that actually could be really powerful and I intend to add that arrow to my quiver. Yeah. Yeah. Mookie.

I wanted to sort of like what people remember, I think of the past Mookie is being the number one Chiba Hawk. Yeah. I knew you were going to say that. And you used to say, so I hit that. Mr. Mookie used to say, I hit that.

Okay. So I hit that. And so hit that and so like yeah go ahead have you like moved on from this completely or like what yeah i i not not to say that my you know and of course i was so appreciative to have of you know that exposure that you provided of me at that time what was that about five years ago um i don't know yeah i don't know either yeah i i don't remember either it was such a long time ago since you've had me on and um you know i appreciate the sort of you know the people on reddit the people of twitter saying we love chiba hawk whatever but you know as my and again as my listeners know and i feel like i'm a broken record of this point but you know my my comedy you know i've had my poopoo peepee phase i've

done my little comedies in the past and you know not me too i had the big phase of that exactly and and you know it it doesn't mean that it does not have validity of my life of my past of my history of who i am now but you know a few months ago when i started attending a therapy i sort of awoken is the word something out of myself that said you know i finally changed after not realizing that I could change after not realizing that I needed to change. And I can't see how I can go out of the world now and not tell other people to change and help them to change and fix them. And so that's kind of where my focus has been. I mean, that's not to say that I don't have pilots in development right now, but they're more, they're less comedy and more sort of drama as in to call them dramedy. They're more true.

Well, I say it sounds like you've found your actual voice. And so it would make total sense to me that artistically you would flourish and that you wouldn't move out of the industry. But in fact, you would just move it to another facet of it where. Yeah. I sort of pivot within the industry yeah yeah and it's i i mean i you give me little teases about some of what you're what you're working on but i i i know um that it that it is going to be really powerful what you do and that you are doing sort of an emotional version of the swan uh the swan being

the reality show where women competed to have uh thousands of dollars of plastic surgery done on themselves um as the prize uh and would come out looking you know having emerged as a swan from what what they thought was an ugly duckling and that you are going to take people and uh change their brains and personalities uh so that they actually can be something society yeah would like and accept yeah it's interesting it's so it's like therapy is sort of a surgery of the mind you know what i mean and you know that show is just i don't want to give away too much here because we're, we're like this close to a, to a deal. But, um,

you know, I, I'm sitting these people down and just going, what's going on. You know what I mean? Like, that's my scalpel. That is my scalpel.

Uh, that's my scalpel. And that's all I have to say. You. Yeah. Well, if they're, if they're ready to answer,

boy, oh boy, that's reconst i have to say you yeah well if they're if they're ready to answer boy oh boy that's reconstructive surgery right there exactly and you know that that is and it's like you know they say that therapy isn't brain surgery but like it is brain surgery it's not physical brain surgery it's not like it is brain yeah it's not like i'm removing a vein from your brain from your main brain your main vein in your brain but i am rewiring of the wires that we do not see to reroute the thoughts that are negative into a different place that's so interesting movie that this is yeah it is because i've been doing a sort of a similar thing where like recently my sensibility has been shifting towards the more truthful side of comedy as well and like i also used to be like a mr poopoo pp guy and like

i love that guy like i look back at him and i'm like oh he's like so like i actually really love him but now like it is so much more about honesty for me and people say like this is so great because like the industry is actually moving this way as well and like we don't like the other stuff is not as like commercially viable and we are buying more of this content i'm like oh my god holy shit that's crazy are you kidding me that it coincided exactly with my own personal evolution and i'm like what was tapped into in this sort of collective consciousness right and maybe i did this maybe it was like i started to change the way i was maybe i did too yeah and uh yeah you may have yeah i don't know and i don't know if it was right after us or if it was the same time or just a little bit after but but mookie the fact that this has been like commercially uh also like such a

huge thing for you in addition to happening spiritually like talk about this this is like this is like crazy right this is like what like wow yeah well i mean you know i i don't want to necessarily say that i've shifted this way because the industry is or because i felt that this was a more sellable product of myself, you know, this is me. And like Sean said, and I'm very similar to Sean in this way is that, you know, this did sort of coincide with like, you know, Oh, this is this sort of shift of the industry of going comedy. Isn't funny anymore is sort of like coincided or lined up perfectly of the time you know this is a sellable thing and then i think of myself at this time where i go

well this is a sellable thing and you know of me this this new perspective that i have this is sellable and that's not to say that i'm out here doing this to make money you know's when you're not looking that you're going to find it, isn't it? Stop seeking and you'll find it. It's right under your nose. Oh, as soon as I started being myself. Yes. That's when all of a sudden myself is what people actually craved and desired and wanted to financially reward. Of course.

You know, the one thing I want to say is look at the numbers right wow yeah we go this is the way that it's power this has been this is the way that it's been done for years and years and years and years and okay you put up some good numbers you know but yep yep i can concede that yeah but then and then we start to see a change, right? We start to see, you know, people wanting to tell different kinds of stories, things like that. And there's some resistance because this is not what we're used to. But then we finally give the people the opportunity to tell the views look at the box office look at the dollars look at the reach look at look outside your window and look how people are different yeah from yes you know what i mean and these like short little videos like you look in the like they play it so many times and when you look in the thing that says like here's how many people had an impression of this and you're showing it to people and you're like holy

shit look at all this this is like a million guys and they're like well not everyone like really watched it they're just like going through it and it's like no actually they did they actually did watch the entire thing and they were thinking about it and they're like no it's just like uh it was just like passing through their feed and they didn't really watch it but yeah they did actually these are the stories that need to be told this is my story i am a straight white man who went to therapy and you know i look at my podcast you know we can do plugs later but i look of my podcast yeah i look of my uh you know tikt analytics. Yes. You know, we're talking six, seven percent female. Oh, you know what I mean? Wow.

Jesus, man. From what? From from from zero or one. What was it before? Zero, probably because I wasn't catering to, you know, the beautiful queens who need it most. Yeah. Who need my help. Do you know what i mean like i was

ignoring them and just going i'm making poopoo peepee jokes for guys right right i'm pooping and peeing for guys and i wasn't speaking and listening i did so much of that i did so much of that pooping and peeing we all did we might still i don't but no and and my later yeah i look i have affection i have affection for that version of myself and of you and i do i feel bad for him honestly but if someone wanted to do that i could absolutely do that again dude yes well of course it's not with it but with an ironic wink now yeah or you don't you think no i do it straight up i do it straight up yeah well we are who we are you know yeah sure that that you know that that that poopoo peepee was in me was in you there's always poopoo and peepee in me yeah but no nobody's just one thing you know but to embrace

no no no true side of yourself no that was the point i was gonna make yeah that was the point i was gonna make he was gonna say that yeah yeah yeah yeah no you just were not you were not saying it so i right so i said it you know um yeah and i and i appreciate that yeah and i was getting there yeah mookie how many times i know therapy was like such a huge experience for you how many times did you did you do that how many times did i go to therapy yeah i go once weekly so you've been so if you what you've been one time by about uh no no i go once every week i started going about mid last year and um i go once weekly so what is that about four weeks in a year times how many you know

somewhere around 20 or 30 times i've been okay that's that's like a lot and with no end in sight so you you're gonna keep going i i don't see how i couldn't uh it's i'm you know and so you've been but you've been doing the the the show and doing tiktok stuff for a little while so that you you started to talk about this after you'd been to therapy maybe like five or six times is that yeah you know well you just said look at the numbers so we're just really looking at some of the numbers yeah maybe even just like after your first time you started doing yeah because last year sounds right or maybe even a little before that that you started doing some of this stuff yeah well i started doing tiktoks about about uh you know february of last year and that

was before i had attended a therapy and i had sort of been you you know, well, okay, I guess we're going to get vulnerable. I was not in a great mental place. I was what is called. I was just about to hit of a bottom of my life. I was angry all the time. I was angry all the time. I was depressed. Women were ignoring me completely and utterly. Not allowed.

And I was sort of like, why continue going in the direction that I'm going? I could see the bottom coming up, and I was like, I hope I hit it hard. No, you know, I, you know, I could see the bottom coming up and I was like, I hope I hit it hard. No, you didn't. I hope I hit it hard enough to, I did. I might have said that. And, you know, I had sort of been on, I got to TikTok by way of instagram and i had sort of seen these messages very lucky yeah you know god sends an angel sometimes right yeah and you're you're in instagram which you know that app is just a cesspool and just you know the the horrible like comparisons people make between themselves and each other in these fake lives they present. But wouldn't you know it that in the, you know, in the dirtiest swamp grew a beautiful flower for

you, which was TikTok, which is a really positive, good app that people actually can be themselves the way that you were able to. Yeah. You know, I, it's,'s it's like you said it's sort of like the universe god whatever you want to call it you know i don't necessarily but i call it god yep and i'm not religious i am spiritual i do believe in spirits that sit atop clouds with beards and i you know one of them must have sent me one way because i was on my instagram discover page one day and it was like soul i have seen soul yeah i i oh i loved it and i do want to talk about this movie this is so interesting that we talk about like god doesn't have to be a guy with like a beard that just like sits on a cloud it could be a lot of be anything or it could be a lot of those

that just like sits on a cloud it could be a lot of be anything or it could be a lot of those guys could be the other it could be a bunch of guys it could be like a group of guys with could be 50 guys with beards who are all basically in the same like sky frat yeah and just all chip in on like whatever the cloud costs are you know and get. And so one of them is like more of an organizer and there's like a hierarchy, but it could easily be, you know, people have this sort of like this old fashioned idea of like, God is this guy with a beard on a cloud and it might be 50 or, or, or 25 guys. Yeah. Yeah. Or it might be like the tree outside of your window, you know, it might be the doorknob of your door it might be uh this water bottle do you know what i mean like is there is could i give any more

examples to show you that it could be anything that was really that was i mean and i also think people like can go listen to your show for like for more examples yeah for people who didn't see too he he has a water bottle that he held up yeah yeah yeah this was a gift from my agent christmas gift so i was watching instagram discovery and um it was again god the universe whatever you want to call it there was two options to click on to scroll through a theme of videos. One was cooking videos, you know, like restaurants and they're taking tacos and dipping them in sauce or whatever. So cool.

And then the other one. Yeah, no, those are cool. And they have their own merit. But the other one was this video of like this young teenage couple that was very good looking. video of like this young teenage couple that was very good looking and they were talking about how this is like my girl is sad so i'm going to um you know buy her the snacks of her that she loves and i'm gonna go to the store and buy her like gummy worms and reese's pieces and stuff okay relationship goals yeah exactly and it's yeah yeah and i was sort of like look at this nice life that these people get to just show everybody

what they're doing all the time, even if it's boring or considered boring of the general public. And I thought that's not boring to us, but that's exactly boring to us. We are interested in hello, human beings, you know, Reese's pieces. Okay. And you're buying that for your girl of her snacks of her choosing. Exactly. And that these people aren't afraid to sort of put themselves out there and just go like, here's my life. Just, you know, take it or leave it. But this is what I do.

And you might think that gummy worms and Reese's pieces are not a gourmet snack. You might think that I should be getting Parmesan crisps of whole foods, but I am just, you know, we are just kids and we are being who we are. Anyways, I'm going off of. No, I love it. And when you strip away, Mookie, the bullshit and the artifice, right, of I'm going to present this, I'm going to be in my makeup and I'm going to be eating my kale smoothie. Yeah.

And you say, Hey, let's have some Reese's pieces and let's just be in our sweat pants for a change and let people really see that. Cause let's face it. That's what we're doing. Uh, you find out nobody relates to perfect.

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That's rocketmoney.com slash the boys. Rocketmoney.com slash the boys. Hollywood Hammer. Kevin, do you, and I just, sorry, I just had to leave it good for one more second. Kevin, do we, do we not want to start with, mookie has helped so many guys and so many women do you want to read him some questions that you have from other people and he can help them yes um okay mookie oh wow here's a question i'm sort of i'm sort of i'm sort of in the hot seat right now i'm sort of of of the of the very hot seat well Well, yeah, but we told you, you know, you come on here. I know,

I know the lights are never too bright for you, whether it's Chiba Hawk and Poo Poo PP, all the stuff you've done in the past, you, you always deliver. And so we, we did want to hear, uh, you know, because it honestly, at the end of the day, it's about helping people. It's about helping people. I couldn't agree more. Okay. This question is, what do you say to interviewers when they ask, what motivates you? Hmm. I don't understand the question. Totally.

Totally. Are you saying, are these questions that are specifically for me or are they general questions? The questions, that's a great question actually. And is that question for me or is that a general question? That's whoever would like to answer the question. Okay. I'll pass on that one then. I would say whoever knows the answer of the question would be the one to answer it. You want that?

Well, then, well, in that case, these are questions for you. Okay. So these are questions specifically for me. So what would I, could you read the question again, Kevin? Sure. Sure. What do you say to interviewers when they ask what motivates you? So if I'm being interviewed and they ask me.

I could actually rephrase this question in a way that might be a little bit helpful. What motivates you? Ah, what motivates me um wow the um the look the look on someone's face when they realize that i've done something great yeah for them or for myself do you know what i mean like no it's the reflection it's the reflection. It's the reflection of yourself that you see in loved ones and being able to say, you know, people say, I love the guy I see in the mirror now, now that I've changed. And that's true. But actually my favorite mirror is the pupils of a child who's watching me do, you know,

have skateboarding or absolutely, you know, and and it's interesting i think if you had asked me this question a year ago six months ago i might say what motivates me i would probably say honestly um you know money fame attention greed i i probably would have said those things but thank god thank whatever you call it that i'm getting this question now um right it's embarrassing to think but no i was motivated by some of those things yeah some of our more base desires right yeah down in the root chakra and i think that people don't realize that like the you know when others are happy it does make you more happy it puts more happiness love positivity out into the world so that when you step outside of your door you walk into a world that is full of more love and positivity

may put there by you or me or whoever is helping people is investing in the bank of your own happiness absolutely i love that and my accounts are so so big my accounts are huge you're a rich man you'd say i would say that i am currently yes i've had a bit of a had some setbacks lately but yes overall i'd say i'm rich what motivates you sean and try not to say the same thing i did no i won't um i would say it's just seeing the look on someone's face of like if they've like yeah when i've done something good i love that great answer for them or me but i you know i what good i love that great answer for them or me but i you know i what honestly what motivated me if you would ask me even a week ago i would have said probably to to defeat hayes you know to be like everything was a competition with him and my motivation was always that i was going to beat

him or be better somehow that he would lose and i would win but now that he has left the show permanently uh and i just don't see him anymore i realized that wasn't a good motivation because there's an end to it right anytime what's motivating you is finite finite you're going to find out that when you get there mookie you're all out of sauce and i don't ever want to be out of sauce so i i do keep striving and and and the idea of just helping people that's that's never going to be finished that That's a job I gladly take on, and I'd like to be the CEO of it and the janitor of it and in a number of other positions. Wow.

Do you go to therapy, Shub? You know, I've been looking at it. I've been looking at it. I'm window shopping a little bit, so I'll sort of go to therapy offices and sort of chill out outside the door and kind of see what i overhear and it's be you know see if it's if it seems like kind of advice that it could apply to me right i mean in a way is going right right yeah

i mean you're you're you're it seems like you do you're spitting fire but um you know i i think of how much better you would be at life if you did attend a therapy even at the perspective that you're at now do you know what i mean like think of how even better you could be that's scary i know it is scary change is scary things you haven't tried are scary but we have to try them or else we won't ever try them oh holy shit that that was a gut punch to hear you miss 100 of the shots you do not make holy shit that's therapy said that that's therapy in a nutshell that's not you know that's that's that's a quick representation of what therapy is but hey what happened i was wow that was really interesting that was a really good experience uh people were still being really loud so i did have to leave again um and i basically did

a hard reset of sort of my entire brain and kevin was texting me like where'd you go he's sending me all these links and he was being extremely toxic uh and just like i was gone for one second and immediately he's like come back like come back now and it's like first of all you work for me i have your entire world now and like I'm sorry that you felt it was toxic. Okay, but that's not a real apology. I said I'm sorry. Yeah, but you said, I'm sorry you felt I was toxic. What you're supposed to say is, I'm sorry that I'm so toxic.

I'm sorry I'm so toxic that you felt that way. Okay. Wow, that's really nice thank you abandonment issues okay and i'm feeling this as well much so much of of of experiencing your own growth is realizing that you do need space to be allowed to change and grow and you need to afford others that space so if hayes needs to leave for an entire episode and just say that was too loud that's okay because that's my friend taking care of himself it's actually more better than okay it's actually really good if that happens and kevin did what so what did we do did you read any of the questions that you're due for another one we're due for another one you did one already

and now we're doing a second one. That's great. And Mookie's helping people this way. He is. The next question is, what's something you did once that you'll never try again? That's such a question. Wow, that stopped me absolutely cold. You did that once?

I tried it once, and and man it did not feel good for me especially let alone the woman it was done upon okay so you do you want to talk about the time that happened or you just want to move i don't really know if i do i mean i yeah i can but i'm just you know one thing i'm trying to do is like not as move forward. You know what I mean? I can't inventive a time machine and go back in time and make it so that I didn't do a misogyny. But like I was it someone in your family? No, no, it was.

It was a romantic partner of mine. Wow. Okay. And I did that narrows it down. Not now. I know. I know. Okay. And I didn't. That narrows it down, not. No, I know, I know. And of course, you know, I won't reveal anything for the, you know, out of respect for this woman. But, you know, I was not prioritizing of this person and, you know, which is on me and you know that person confronted me of that and said you

know you're not making me of a priority in your life and i said something along the lines of like that's just what a woman would say isn't it and it's i you know and the look on you should not probably should not have shared that story yeah like and and i mean she withheld sex for months after that and i you know and i i have to look at my responsibility of that and yeah it really sucked and i ended up breaking up with her yeah and but you know because you were horny you were getting horny yeah you know well you're not gonna go i'd known you for a while you're mean? Well, you're not going to go months. I've known you for a while. You're not going to go months. You're not going to go months. Yeah, no, no, no.

And I didn't, and I don't, and I haven't. But, you know, I just... Even a movie 40 days and 40 nights, that's like a month and 10 days. And he was like ready to explode. Yeah. I remember seeing that with you, Mookie, and you were ripping the seats out of the theater you were so upset at the idea of this man uh you know not you know not but uh but

busting yeah it's i mean i whatever you know to each and every one and their own in terms of body autonomy but um i just don't think it's but but again it's not you know i i'm i'm i you know that person can um take 40 days and 40 nights off of and i can do it every once a once or twice a week or so okay yeah that's is that the start i don't sorry what you like you can do it that much that's is that sorry wait like you can do it that much that's like the frequency that you like are able to to do it and someone who's famously i'm sex negative so i i am going to bow out of this conversation and i and i'm just gonna i'm gonna mute it probably turn off my video i encourage you to have this and i think everyone should have a platform to discuss this stuff i am sex negative and i do not think these things should be discussed publicly or even really looked at within ourselves

um so that we don't have to i was just like the the frequency with which people can do it i think is interesting for me and i think everyone should share that and i think it should be in uh like on your in a book like not your driver's license but like in some in some like uh public civic document the government can go yeah the government absolutely and so because it's like and it's different for everyone too it could honestly be used as like an identification system it's as specific as a fingerprint how often you're able to to do this thing and so if it's like once or twice a week for mookie that's that's interesting that's part of who he is that would be interesting to me yeah if he can do it

that much i i i mean i guess are you asking like am i able to physically do that twice a week or am i that's what i thought you were saying because you said you can do it once or twice a week and oh i was more saying that like enough women are attracted to me that i could find a couple of partners okay oh okay not not that i do not that i do just because i can doesn't mean that i do i'm just saying that like in sight you know again we're looking at the numbers no it's a yeah and we can you know we can do a lot of things like i can whatever i could eat a big scoop of uh kitty litter and be the peepee poo-poo man that we uh all used to find so funny and if someone wanted me to do that i would love to do it right now yeah yeah and you i bet you can probably do that two or three times a week oh yeah yeah no i do it all the time that's that's actually what's funny to me

oh right kevin where does that question come from that was from reddit oh very cool thanks thanks those guys okay here's another one people my age want to speed up and i want to slow down so context is i'm 20 and doing a degree and plan to get a job, get some cash, and then decide from then. Now, whenever I talk to my friends, they talk about places they want to live or jobs they're getting. And it just feels like everyone has a goal and is going places. They describe the shit they want to do. And when I do, it just sounds plain stupid. I honestly just want to live comfortably and chill, and when I talk to a lot of people, they all go so fast.

I want this and that. They even talk fast, LMAO. Is it weird I don't have goals? That's awesome. That's awesome. It just says, is it weird that if I don't have goals, if I need them, how do I find something i want they even talk fast yeah that's who wrote this man i love this guy or you know or who yeah brave union name

it's brave brave union brave union uh get new friends wow so you're saying eliminate those people from your entire life yes it's called boundaries have them there's suppress yeah it's called boundaries yep it's you don't have to move at the pace of anyone that anyone else is going you have your drum we all have our own drums and we march to the beat of them and if you're looking at other people's drums think about a drum kit in front of you if you're and there's a let's say there's a drum kit in front of you and there's a drum kit next to you what which ones do you think you're going to play better the ones in front of you or the ones next to you i think well depending on how close which way are you facing yeah you're the first right up against

me the first one in front of you you're sitting in like that yeah like you're a drummer like it's easier to play out to the sides if they're like if if the ones in front of me are too close so one i'm sitting on a stool and there are drums facing me with like the drum part that you hit is like right in front of me and I'm holding drumsticks. Yes. And it's not like up at chin level or something, right? Because that seems like. No, it's a standard band set up of a drum set that you are sitting in front of as if you were the drummer of a band. And I've got drumsticks.

Yeah. of a band that you were playing those drums. Yeah. And then next to that, on your side, is the same drum kit. So two identical drum kits, mind you. Wow.

But one of them you'll be able to play well, and one of them you'll be able to play not well. And can you guess which one you'd be able to play well? And you can't move over? It feels like there's going to be a a it feels so obvious to me you're not allowed to move you're sitting on a chair it's not a swivel chair you're sitting on like a desk like a not like a like a dinner table chair and it's my body or i have someone else's body it's your body okay this is sitting and playing drums in like a in a dining room chair yeah just just so that it doesn't swivel so that you can understand my point right okay yeah i think i'm starting to get it okay well wow then there you go there's my

answer that's really interesting and like it's it gets at some of the themes of today where people are talking in a way that's like unpleasant to you and if they're if they're talking very fast or they're being extremely loud what you have to do is delete the program for a little while you have to yeah you you you mentioned boundaries and i do i know you have a few projects in the works you have this one show i don't want to give away too much but it's sort of this reality hybrid called homework boundaries it's almost it's almost like a parental control type thing but it is you go into people's houses and you meet their entire family and you tell them which relatives to cut out of their lives forever wow and i thought that was so powerful when i heard it and i thought if i

had had that when i was a kid it's always kids it's it's young kids 11 or 12 and you're going in there and you're setting them on the right path by going like whatever your older sister or whatever she's being toxic that's now you don't you don't know her anymore she's a ghost to you and i you know i saw the sizzle reel that you put together for this where you went into that one family's house unannounced you know they didn't know who you were or what was happening and you really were able to put physical boundaries in between these people where they they couldn't talk to each other they couldn't even move it's a lot of you releasing pets as well and there was one or a lot of episodes actually where it seemed like

you had done that by accident at that and then you'd give a speech about how it was like a powerful expression of like freedom and well and that the pet was actually like being very toxic and was like and needed to be cut out of your life but it seemed like you just left the door open you hadn't realized the door was open and you had had kind of tripped over yourself scrambling to try to get the dog and kind of cursed about it for a little while and then you would sort of collect yourself and and give a speech about how the pet was was a toxic presence and i guess that's what homer bound like the movie is about animals being lost but i didn't seem like you knew that when you were talking about it no yeah do we know at

the beginning of that movie if those uh if those if the reason those animals were lost is because they were um they were set they were they were set away because they were toxic to their families uh i guess we don't yeah i guess we do know that that's not why uh they were the family movies we don't know what guess we do know that that's not why uh they were the family movies we don't know what was in the cutting talk about that yeah talk about this that's powerful me i don't that i don't watch movies yeah yeah oh i just there are better things to do with my time okay did you used to or you just sure never sure yeah mr pp poopoo man used to be like yeah yeah i'm i'm i in that phase of my life i used to watch poopoo poopoo movies like yeah you know

uh whatever ace ventura um yeah the artist the artist um you know cars um crash yeah yeah crash both both crashes that movie the movie you're calling cars is actually called crash the one where they it is cars in it absolutely and that's what is having a crash in the movie but the movie is not there's there's cars that's there's cars that's the one about the people who get off on car crashes and then there's cars too which is the one where they're it's like about racist cops okay so that's so interesting i i thought that those movies were both called the same thing but it was something uh i believe it's cars and cars too yeah but speaking of the messaging of cars too is i know you've said that you don't watch movies but you were telling me that you would be willing to watch movies again once

everything is equal sure yep absolutely and what a fun way to celebrate you know i didn't watch wonder woman because i'm like we're not there yet good tribe if we're not there yet and kevin it's a step in the right direction yep but until we're there yeah that'll be the first one you have any more question okay here's one more i do not know what i have a passion for so i'm a sophomore majoring in computer science and i'm really hating it only because i'm bad at programming and realize that i have no interest in it. I do enjoy computers, and all four I have been using them since a young age. Recently, I lost interest in a lot of things being shut down for six months.

I haven't gone out of my way to look for anything else because I don't know where to start. What should I do? And this question is actually for you, Mookie. Oh, okay. I would say join the military i've heard you say this a few times so what so talk a little bit about your i think it's so interesting there's no better thing you can do for our great country than serve overseas and defend our freedoms. And they, you know, it gives you the

time to sort of go off and fight wars and then come back and know what you want to do more based on what the experiences you have, the traumas you have out there and come back. And then they give you money to go to college and then they can just be like, you want to go here here's money so and i i am so grateful of what all of the men and women of the armed forces do for this country and i respect immensely everyone's freedom to do what they please even if it's something that i think is bad because of what those people have fought for so i would tell this person join the military find your nearest military office and sign the paper well and that and that leads me to another pilot you're doing which is basically it's like uh you've got this really cool idea for it's sort of like a drone competition show right um do you want to talk a little bit about how it works just like it's almost like um

it's like wipe out but you're but you're instead of getting through like an obstacle course you're wiping out like a city yeah so it's sort of and i am working with the uh united states armed forces too and we are trying to with this and we are trying to get a Space Force version of it as well but um uh you know yeah we are sort of like sending it's sort of I don't want to I know it's it almost sounds like too complicated but is and I know yeah it's one of those things where it's like once once they give me the money to make it and I can just make it and you can see it and you go oh that's what it is do you know what I mean but yes yes yes yes so so the explanation might be a little muddy but um you

know it's it's basically like you know we are giving civilians the access to drones but they're being coached so so civilians fly drones right it's sort of like the voice but it's like we have you know military sergeants and things who they go based on. I know, I know Rumsfeld circling it and. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got it out to Rumsfeld and Powell and things like that. But all these guys have their own production companies now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, they, you know, based on how well these civilians fly drones, these sergeants,

you know, will pick them to be on their team. They will teach them to fly drones. And then it's sort of a drone competition on who can you know yeah who can wipe out as many um poor innocent people as they can it's it's almost kind of like dark but um i guess i guess yeah but i i you know i had a meeting um with uh petraeus's development yeah and i want to get both you guys into possibly for it to be writers. Dude, that's great. Yeah. And I just was having an idea as you're talking about that.

Is there like watching someone do the drone and they're like, wow, who's doing that? But you can't see his secret drone at that point. And then when it's revealed, it's like a really maybe like a skinny guy or something i don't know or like something yeah like a nerd like a poindexter like yeah it's not who you would think yeah it's like oh it must be like a jock or something but it's like a really skinny guy yeah yeah like a nerd yeah it is sort of like the voice in that way when somebody comes out and has like an incredible voice and you're like this person must look like mariah carey and then you turn around and it's somebody who is uh unconventionally attractive it's like a old grandma or something yeah drone footage of the drone i mean that's an idea i have

is drone footage of the drone you get drone shot of the drones okay yeah put that in your packet that's going to be in there yeah and i have some desk pieces too that you could do great yeah yeah try and and and uh throw in a couple impressions too absolutely no i got i do the i do a lot of the big ones i do mcconaughey do christopher walken yeah yeah yeah and and like impressions of like drones and stuff if you can i do some drone sounds yeah yeah okay great mookie your uh your podcast is on TikTok? No, not at all. Kind of. I think maybe you're confusing.

So the TikTok and the podcast, while they are integrated brand-wise, they are two separate things. Is this plugs time, or is that what you're ramping me up for? I guess, if you want it to. No, I mean, it's your podcast. We don't do the plug song. I mean, I can do the plug song for you. I've done it before.

We don't do that on this show, but I can. Okay. Plugs. Plugs. Got it. Well, then I'll just answer your original question no my podcast is not on my tiktok but it kind of you were just saying it kind of it sort of is well i'm saying you know that that's a little bit those are two different ways that i spread love and positivity one is

short form one is long form so it's really long well the podcast is about an hour long yeah the tiktoks are about anywhere from 10 seconds to a minute long but they both are achieving of the same goal which is spreading of love and positivity upon the world and it's called you are worthy and my understanding is that when you were thinking of who the you is and you are worthy it was the girl listening to this is that right yeah well it's it's any it's any girl slash woman listening of this and any man six percent of your audience yeah but yeah which is a good chunk you know what i mean like that's you people wouldn't think that's really that big but that's like almost as many

people as has coronavirus in la right now and they keep saying like that's a big problem seems small but that is actually very big. Yeah, and everyone's, like, freaking out about that. And they're like, oh, that's so many. But now that's not that many girls. How can that be the same? Yeah, it's like, why not freak out about this if you're freaking out about that in a good way? Look at the numbers. At least do both.

Yeah, exactly. Okay, this is a lot of people that have coronavirus. And, like, holy shit, that's so many girls. That's a ton of women to be listening to Mookie's show. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah i mean like the you know the the the icus of listeners are full of women and how can you see that you're like going into your followers and just like because i know it doesn't show their gender that would mean you would have to like be looking at each i do i distribute my podcast girl i distribute oh oh you're saying you know how how how how do i know if each individual listener who who are the women and who are not what they're what they're yeah yeah yeah well i

distribute my podcast of the website anchor and this is you know free press for them but um they give me the numbers of you know who uh of of gender identities of people that i that are listening of my podcast and it's it's about we might even be up to seven or eight percent now women wow and so anchor says like are you a girl yeah or when you're listening and you either say yes or no i think that might be how they do it, yeah. Okay. I specifically requested that they ask my listeners that way. That's powerful. That's really powerful. Kevin, can we get that one?

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