Hollywood Handbook - Mary Beth Barone, Our Close Friend

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

The Boys ask MARY BETH BARONE to help them handle the next 600 episodes. Check out Mary Beth’s new show on Amazon Prime Overcompensating. Get a Hat Pack Hat here!Watch the video of today’s episode at Patreon.com/HollywoodHandbook Like the show? Rate Hollywood Handbook 5-Stars on Apple PodcastsAdvertise on Hollywood Handbook via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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No. Okay. It's the singing, but like. Oh, that's the singer. Yeah. Okay. Whew. Thanks for having me. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, thanks for.

Yeah, thanks for. Thanks for, do you want us to say like thanks for coming or? Yeah, I don't know. Oh, I, well, I don't know if you guys know this. We just started, so I don't even know if it's. This is a really hard podcast to get on actually. This is a really hard podcast to get on, actually. This is? Yeah.

I mean, at this point, yeah, that's not news to me. I've done 600 episodes of it, and now I'm doing another one. Right. So, you telling me about it when you have just started doing one of it is it's built different. It's fansplaining.

I thought that's what you guys wanted me to come on and do. I don't know actually what you're gonna do. So that's why I'm kind of withholding the thank you when you're like, thank you for having me on. I'm like, I'm not really gonna thank you for being on because you haven't been on yet. You know what I mean? Like you're here and it's just like, I'm excited,

I'm curious, I'm hopeful that you're gonna bring something to the table that we haven't seen before, but we've seen a lot. We've done 600 episodes. 600, 600 episodes. And everyone who has done this show has been a guest. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. Like, and I'm always kind of wondering, cause you're like a host, you have a show. I do. Yeah, you're a podcast creator. It's on a network. Right? And we actually, we don't have guests on ours.

You don't have guests on yours. So like you're all hosts. Yeah, which some people go, oh, that's like some jerk off thing. Like if you're like a host of a podcast and you don't have a guest on it, like that's like, as Hayes was saying, that's like just some jerk off thing.

Like it's just you talking to you. And it's like, I don't feel that way at all. I think you have a real show. But then people will come on here and be like, oh, I wonder if I'll actually get to do the show with a host, and then they will instantly reveal themselves to be a guest. Just kind of a guest, more of a guest.

More of a guest, and that's fine. Like literally 600 other people have done the exact same thing. Oh my God, it's not like. Oh my God. It's never a shock to me anymore. I'd love to be surprised. Like I'd love to have a host show up because obviously I've had to host 600 of them

and it would be a nice break. Yeah. But thanks for having me is like literally the main guest. It's big guest energy, it's BGE. Okay, well I guess to just like sort of put on my host hat for a second, I could sort of turn something like a question. You guys have a hat too? We wear hats frequently.

But you, do you have a hat or do you wear hats? We wear hats, we don't have a branded hat. Well we do, but we don't wear it, cause it's like wearing your own merch, that sort of jerk off stuff, I would say wearing your own hat, wouldn't you say? Like for me to wear the hat pack, hat is like one thing, but then you guys wear it.

Oh no, it's like very alpha to like literally have somebody else's hat like on top of me. Literally pushing down on my head. Literally someone else's hat. Squashing my shit in from the fucking top. No, it's so alpha to have someone else's hat like squashing my shit in from the fucking top. No, it's so alpha to have someone else's hat like squishing my head into my neck.

Very dominant, yeah. Instead of my own hat, which is designed to actually pick my head up, actually be lifting me up. And that, and like, and it does improve scoliosis, scoliosis. Okayolioscopy. Okay, because you're not sitting up very straight right now. I, and it's, it takes work and this is isometric. Like what I'm doing right now is isometric, yes.

Yeah. Interesting. It's magnetized, it's polarized, it's like got, it's got all the technology. Yeah. No, it's not, it's, no, it's not chemicals. Chemicals, That's you. And I said, yeah. Knowing that he was gonna say it's not.

Yeah. So I was already here. We're polarized. Hold on, hold on. I'm not here to cause friction between you guys. You put me in the middle, which I felt like, I don't know what type of dynamic you're trying to create here, but like, it's not gonna happen.

Where do you wanna sit? You're the host, right? Where do you wanna sit? You want me there, you want him here. I would like to sit at the desk. At the desk? Where Kevin sits? But there's no mic over there.

There is. That actually is. There is a mic and there's a camera. That is chemical if you sit over where Kevin is. Well, I don't wanna be presumptuous. Okay, then don't want to be presumptuous. Okay. Then don't. It's like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't want to be this.

It's like, all right, that's not really up to me whether you do that. Like that's not really my, I'm not in control of that. I actually will let the guest or host or whatever you are at this point. We're still figuring it out. And I can feel the promotion and this is another huge guest thing. Like they always have something that like, they're just so excited to talk about.

Just another stop on the tour. We're gonna talk about it, but you know, when are we gonna ask about my thing? And it is exciting. Sure. I get it. Yeah. Big show coming up.

Overcompensating. Mm-hmm. It's just interesting, because when I sat down, the first thing you brought up was your wife's show. I actually hadn't even mentioned my show once. Jesus. Okay, so. I'm always talking even mentioned my show once Okay, so he's talking about It's it's like

Yeah It's like obviously making you very uncomfortable that we have wives. Yes, which is like again. That's All right, take these off if this is like every other episode we have to do this I mean believe them in the middle right energy changes. Yeah, right just here you go. I Feel a lot better now. I also I did want to say it took me so long to get booked on this podcast I want to do this podcast to impress a guy. It took me so long to get booked on this freaking podcast We're not even dating anymore. Mm-hmm And I just think that maybe if you had booked me sooner. Wonder whose fault that is.

That wouldn't have happened. He's dating Casey Rockett and that sucks because that was only two episodes ago. Episode 598 or 599. 599, yeah. Sorry, it's just I'm noticing a lack of accountability when we say like we're not even dating anymore. Mm-hmm. He dumped my ass.

I'm not here to, I'm not here to talk about my dating life. Everyone else's wife in the entire world. I'm here to talk about your wife's projects. I got my ass dumped. She's always. I mean, you should probably. I blew it, I fumbled the bag. That's what we say.

You know what I mean? That's what you guys say. We just take accountability. Because you just took your wedding rings off and I feel like your wives maybe won't appreciate that. You don't know the first thing about my wife. She's dying to have me take that thing off. And that is the first thing.

Number one, she's been trying to get that thing off. She's rigging all kinds of elaborate traps. You should do an episode where your wives come on. The level of relief she would feel if she saw this, if she ever, I mean, it would be, it's complicated because she'd have to be, I guess, watching the episode, which would mean engaging her podcast. Which I'm sure she doesn't do, right?

Actually watching the video. Because someone's gotta actually make money for the home, right, and you guys are podcast hosts, so. I think it'd be cool to have them come on and do your guys' jobs, and then all of a sudden it becomes a better podcast because it's two women at the helm. Well, we tried having one woman at the helm.

I guess we should talk to Benito about that as well. I mean, are we bringing that same energy to Benito? To Benito where Terry would host the podcast. The male lead of your show. Oh, I see. I thought you meant for Benny's partner to come in and host our podcast because that wouldn't really change the optics

because he's a guy as well because Benny's a homosexual. Gay man. optics cause he's a guy as well. Cause Benny's a homosexual. Gay man. Yeah. He's a homosexual gay man. He dates a guy. I would say your show lacks diversity. Oh, so there's two men then.

In the relationship. He's dating a guy and then there's two men there. Right. In that relationship. Yeah. My relationship. No, but he's very diverse. Actually embraces diversity.

No, but you understand, Sean, he's diverse. Oh, he must be, right? They're both diverse, because they're LGBTQ+. Okay. All I'm saying is, it's a very male dominated space, that relationship. And I actually embrace a relationship that involves women gives

women a voice which is like that one doesn't. I don't see her at the microphone. Then that's not diverse. I'm in a house where I am not diverse but my wife is. Right. Because she's a woman. Because she's a showrunner. Well she's a, I mean yes. And you're not. She's a, yeah, she's a female showrunner is what we but you have a movie in development, right?

So people that's the other one. Oh you have a movie in development Yeah That's cool. I don't know if it's in development. It's filmed. Oh, well, so it's in post Yeah It's so hard for you to just say yes to something. Yeah, I don't know if that always happens, but something about the way you sort of pose your, is it a question?

I think- It didn't feel like a question. So it's in post. That's not really a question, is it? It's like, so I know what's going on. And it's like, yeah. Cause I'm not like knocked the fuck out by that. And I guess one way to promote your show is by, is by diminishing all the other shows.

I mean, I agree that that is one way to do it. Yeah, it's your show versus other things like the movie or like, I don't like to talk about it. I'm writing for Severance right now. So like, I guess if you like, there it is, you got it out of him. Great, you finally fucking bullied me into talking about this job that first of all,

it's supposed to be a secret. Jesus Christ. And like, it's like, okay. Now everyone knows. Let's go at it. Well, here's what I do when I'm hosting and I say something maybe that I shouldn't have said. I just say, well, we'll bleep that.

And that creates a safe space within the room where we feel like we can talk about anything. And it's like, well, we will be taken care of. I can't want my listeners to feel safe. I want them to feel like I'm not hiding things from them. You know what I mean? So it's like, it's weird. My show is less for the people in the room.

It's actually more for the audience who we make the show for. Well, cause you charge them money to listen to it. Yeah. Whereas I'm paying to be here. Okay. Both in. So, so what?

I guess you're making money. You're double, what's it called? Double dipping? No, when a realtor sells a house and buys the house. Yeah, double dipping. It's not called that. They're dipping twice, I guess. They're dipping on both sides of it.

Is it possible to look that up as the host? Looking at me, Jesus Christ. I mean, it seemed like you had done your research. I don't look shit up out of here. If I take my phone out to look that up, I'm never putting it down again. There's so much stuff in there. I'll be sending emails, I'll be,

there's so much, there's so much from work coming in right now. It's so fun, too. Well, shouldn't you be in a writer's room right now? I- Didn't you just say you're writing for sevens? Jesus, oh my God. Now she wants to know the hours.

Now it's out there again. Yeah, great, now we gotta talk about that. Oh my God. It's like huge show that I work for and now all of a sudden I gotta talk about it on the podcast. Yeah, yes, I will be going into the writer's room right after this. I actually was able to carve out time to be here with you

so that you could kind of present your wares to the audience and so far it's really been worth it. She just said she wears hats. Yeah. You've got this show overcompensating. Is the title ironic? No, I'd say it's pretty literal. It's actually overcompensating. Is the title ironic? No, I'd say it's pretty literal. It's actually overcompensating?

Wow, I'm not getting that at all. So you're making too much money to be on there? I think then that would be called overcompensated, I think, different tense. Well, they're the show. The show is named, the title is the name of the show? I guess what I'm realizing is you think you're the show. Mm-hmm. The show is named, the title is the name of the show? I guess what I'm realizing is you think you're the show. Yeah.

In a lot of ways I am. So, hmm. I'd love to talk to the show about that. And the show is at college? It's set in college, yeah. Okay. And is it called 30's college? It's not polite to ask.

What the name of the college is? Yeah, it's not polite to ask. Jesus. Is everybody's, they're for their masters, I guess? Doctorate. Yeah, okay, for their doctorate. Post-doctorate maybe. Have you ever met a doctor, someone with a doctorate?

Yeah, I have to see one regularly. Yeah, they're always peering over me. My dad's a doctor, so. Wow. Yeah. Oh, okay. Must've been really tough for you to get into the arts. Yeah, I mean, he had a lot of connections, connections obviously through the hospital, but I paved my own way

Yeah, connect these fucking bank account, but I paved my own way Mm-hmm Okay, how about you guys you got in through your wife? What's your story? I? Did in a way I got it as well my wife a couple times His wife helped me I did in a way get into the hospital through my wife a couple times. He's his wife, help me. Ha ha ha. Whoa.

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So if you don't mind, I'll just kind of, I'll just settle back in. Sure. Hey, take as long as you need. Okay. You're the guest, relax. What do I call you? When somebody has two names, I just don't know what to do.

You just say both, Marybeth. Marybeth? Or MB or whatever. Is there a middle name floating around in there somewhere as well? How are we doing? It's floating in a way, my name is Mary Elizabeth. So Marybeth is the nickname.

Okay. Sort of born from that. And then I don't have a proper middle name. My first name's Mary Elizabeth. And I was born at the hospital where my dad worked. Can't disaster. Yeah, they can't disaster. Happens to a lot of good doctors.

It does, yeah. Ours are crazy. Only the best ones really. Make a mistake, you know? Mm-hmm. Whatever. Yeah. And I just, like, I just can't help but wishing. I mean, that's what kind of got me to move out here

and to embark on every project I've ever been a part of is I guess the product of a wish. And I wish after 600 episodes, we could do one where it's not about who owns what hospital, and who has the richest dad. And it could be just hanging out, talking about our paths

and our dreams in ways that are not competing against each other that understand there is room in this business for everybody. I'd like, yeah, I'd love to do one episode with an abundance mindset. Yes, that's right. If we could try one, obviously it's not gonna be this one, but I'm just setting my intention,

I'm wishing for that to be maybe, I guess, 602 or something. Right, yeah, well it's definitely not gonna be this one. I know, I just said that. Cause we're almost done, right? 17 minutes. Wow, that's got a one in front of it. Feels like a good amount of time. Feels like a really good amount of time. Still a one in front of it. Feels like a good amount of time.

Feels like a really good amount of time. Still a one in front of the time. Not a big Ezra gal. Ezra who? Not into what Ezra's putting down, abundance. Is that the guy, is that Ezra Klein? Ezra Klein, yes. It's so funny that his book is about bigness,

but Klein means littleness. Little Ezra. Ezra Small. I don't really understand who that is or what he does. I think he works at the New York Times, but I just see a lot of stuff about him and it's a cultural blind spot. Have you been in there?

Into the Times building, I haven't. Okay, have you been Into the Times building? I haven't. Okay. Have you been into the Times newspaper? Have I ever been featured in the Times? Yeah, I got interviewed actually last week because of my work for Zeron Mamdani's mayoral campaign. They called me to ask about him. I gotta tell you,

they have to fill a whole paper every single day. Yeah. Have to fill a whole thing, every day. They don't take one day off. Have they ever been desperate enough to talk to you guys or? I've never given them my email. I'm not really thirsty like that.

But you have a podcast. is that on Peacock? Something's gotta be on Peacock in here. Am I crazy? I can say with honesty and truth, nothing I've ever done is on Peacock. Okay. And that's just where I stand with that streamer. Something to aim for.

So the podcast is... It's on a network? It's on Dear Media. Dear Media. Dear Media. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, their space is a little bit different,

I would say, than your guys. Who's the brass there? I don't wanna talk about that. Rudolph. Did you hear that? I don't the near guys. Who's the brass there? I don't wanna talk about that. Rudolph. Did you hear that? I don't even get it. What? Rudolph.

Rudolph, deer media. Oh, okay, yes. That way. I get it. Reindeer media. It's actually spelled D-E-A-R. It's not spelled like that. It should be.

Rudolph's in charge. Who's your co-host? Bambi. Dodder and Blitzen and Bambi as well. Oh. Oh. Oh. Bambi.

Wow. Ah, shit. Thanks for coming through. And what happens on this thing? You go, go at a big salt lick, review salt licks. Yeah. Go, uh, uh, review, uh, um review deer food. It just, yeah.

Dried corn. Hunter, do tell me where the hunters are. Don't go there. Or what do you do on this show? What's it called? It's called Ride. Oh. And is it called different stuff?. And is it called different stuff?

Yeah, is it called different stuff or did you change it? No, we had a podcast at Spotify for one season called Obsessed, but it got canceled. It was the only podcast in history to get canceled, which we take a lot of pride in. And then we set up shop at Dear Media under the banner Ride. Under the banner Ride. Yeah. The name of the show is a banner. The name the banner ride. Yeah.

The name of the show is a banner. The name of the show is ride. But the banner is a ride as well. I don't want to get caught up in the banner of it all. Okay. I don't think it's a good use of time. I didn't introduce it, so I'm just trying to understand what it was,

why it happened. It's not important to us. We're trying to like, listen to you, respond to you. You've been pretty quiet actually. What's important to you. I feel like he's kind of taken over here. And I'm the ho. I just got curious.

I said Bambi. You know that was me, right? I heard Bambi, but I'm the Bambi. He took the deer riff and really went for it. I felt like you weren't fully locked into that one. Do you guys want to talk about it? The, uh. Did you hear me say Bambi or not?

The Bambi one was confused. It felt half-hearted. He's transparency, I was jealous because Rudolph created a misunderstanding that I don't think Bambi would have. And so if I had started with Bambi, we might've got there. But we wouldn't have gotten to you saying it, daughter and Blitzen we wouldn't have had,

or I don't know which ones I said. Or Salt Licks. Yes. He said Salt Licks. Well, I might have gotten to that. I said Dry Corn. He said Dry Corn, yeah. So just listen, okay?

And this is another guest thing. Well, don't tell her to just listen, though. That's kind of been the issue a lot of the time for the show. Sure, that's right. Just talk, but talk about what we wanna hear. Well, I'm happy to chime in on any topics you guys find interesting.

Well, I wanna understand the show. I mean, I guess you wanna talk about the TV show, but I'm so confused by this podcast banner. What is The Ride? And it's called Ride. What is The Ride that's happening? There's a show called Podcast The Ride. Podcast The Ride. Do you know about it?

I mean, is that your show? Well, maybe that's her show. It's not my show. People like that one. But you know about it? I don't know about it. I shook my head no emphatically when you said that. But maybe that's just what people call your show. It's not.

Okay. So what is the ride that's happening in your show? Santa's sleigh ride, why don't you drive it tonight? I would just like to say that if there was a podcast that was solely focused on like Christmas, that would not be a very evergreen podcast. So it would be highly seasonal podcast. It's not just Christmas, baby, it's not from Christmas.

But you just brought up Santa. Well, but evergreens are a huge partgreen podcast. So it'd be highly seasonal podcasts. It's not just Christmas, baby, it's not from Christmas at all. But you just brought up Santa. Well, but evergreens are a huge part of Christmas. So the podcast is called Ride, and in every episode, my cohost, an out homosexual, and I, a proud bisexual woman, we talk about something we ride for. Okay, it's literally been 23 minutes, and you have not once mentioned being bisexual until now.

Yeah. And you just said you're proud of it, but I just wanted to say, and also before the show, since you're obsessed with talking about every single thing that happened before the show. Everything that happened off my beforehand, yeah. She did not mention, Kevin did, she mentioned, and Kevin would notice.

Right. Okay? And he would not be able to lie about it. I have not argued that I didn't bring it up. Well, I have to go. Well, see, and that's. Oh wait, no, I think that's the parking marshal here to get you from New York.

And you're called the city marshal. Whatever. That was also from before the show. There's another thing before the show, we were talking about locations in Brooklyn, and I said that the city marshal sees my car. And you'll notice that that wasn't about being bisexual about locations in Brooklyn, and I said that the city marshal sees my car. And you'll notice that that wasn't about being bisexual

at all. No, but I do remember that when I said that the city marshal sees my car, you said he was just standing there, and I had to inform you that the city marshal was a woman. Do you see what I just did there as the host? I gave you an opportunity to recount an anecdote that I think actually portrayed you in a really good light.

And I gave you that, that's called giving you the flowers. Is your character proud bisexual in the show? I don't think that's what flowers are actually. No, she is straight in the show. She's hetero. Great, nice. I'm sure there are no straight actresses out there who would have loved that job,

but I guess my culture is your costume. They've had enough, I think. They've had enough jobs. Kevin, I just wanna establish, did she say anything about being bisexual? She did say bye to me several times, but I don't think I was related. Okay.

So I guess you could say it's open to interpretation. Why was she saying goodbye? I was trying to tell her a fun story. She just kept saying bye. Wow. Okay, sounds really sweet of Kevin to try and tell you a fun story. You don't even know what the story was about.

I know it was fun. It wasn't fun to me. You didn't think it was fun, okay. Well, you're the expert, obviously. So wasn't fun to me. You didn't think it was fun, okay. Well, you're the expert obviously. So bi, that's two. Mm-hmm. So nothing. Nice.

Nothing else in there. No. Okay. We did just have one of the world's most famous pansexuals of this show last episode. Who's that? I just wanna say. Wayne Brady. Yes.

Pansexual, I think it's a brave designation. It's just not for me. I don't like how it sounds. Okay. I think bi is cleaner, but I would- So you think it's dirty. Filthy to you. No, clean in a figurative sense.

It's just easier to say, and I think it's more widely known, so. So it's dirty to you in a figurative sense. Yeah. Okay. Okay. What's your guy's sexuality? I don't think I really do that anymore.

Yeah. What would your wives say your sexuality is? They would probably change the subject. I mean, I can't imagine anyone even trying to talk to them about it, but I know the conversation would be very short and it would probably be them bringing up something else or maybe just driving away.

Just saying bye, maybe. But then it would be confusing. That would be confusing in that context. Just like I feel like earlier was confusing. I've kind of put out a different thing every episode, honestly, and I was kind of hoping to not. This is actually, and once again, casting my little wishing rod out into the pond.

I was kind of hoping for one episode not to have to put out a distinct sexual identity. Not to get cornered into labeling my sexual identity, but just being able to exist as a human being. Is that insane? Yeah. Is that crazy? That's insane, I would say. So you're not gonna come out in this episode?

I guess, no. If you want me to like pick a new one, I mean like, I've done pretty much every number of poly at this point. Really? For each episode, yeah. Oh, but you haven't done it in practice. Cause you run out of stuff.

You haven't done it. Yours is two. Like, yeah, I covered, I've done 600 episodes. We got to that pretty early on. Um. So I guess like it's, um, I did 300, like around when the movie came out, it was like kind of a promotional episode

that like that was what I was into that episode, being in the polycule of 300 people. It sounds tiring. So I guess I'll do, oh, oh, 28, is it, what is it, 28 years later coming out? It is. What can we do with that? Yeah, I it, what, is it 28 years later coming out? It is. What can we do with that? Yeah, I don't know,

because we did 28 for 28 weeks later, but maybe it's like 28 year olds. Maybe a little old for that. In sexuality it's 28 year olds, yeah. Okay, yeah. I don't know about the optics. The college girl over here. I don't know about the optics for that.

Okay. Necessarily. Okay. Showing up. Gotta get to class. Yeah, that the freshman orientation. I played junior in college. At the ice cream mixer.

Oh, okay, old sea dog. Mm-hmm. A senior junior. Senior, Junior. Oh, Hollywood handbook. Oh, Hollywood handbook. So it's called Ride. It's not about any ride that we know of. Yeah.

You ride for something. What's something you ride it for? We use past tense road on the show. An example of something I rode for was changing your mind. Can be a concept, it can be a tangible thing. I rode for fakes once, the scrubs that nurses wear that are sexy, sexy scrubs. And then I rode for Carmex once, so.

I don't know why this is making me feel like I want to cry right now. Is there something you ride for that you want to talk about? No. No, I just feel like I'm gonna cry right now hearing you talk about like CarMax. It's like... It's CarMax, the lip balm. Oh. No, it's CarMax.

Oh, I thought it was... It's not like CarMax is like... I thought it was like the company, like the haggle-free car buying company. I've never interacted with that company. So I wouldn't have much to say. CarMax feels like racial kind of, it's just CarMax.

Racial in what sense? You brought it up. Oh yeah, hang on, you're the one who's making it. It's like, Mex is Mexican or something. It's like Tex-Mex, Car-Mex who's making it it's like mechs is Mexican or something next car max I think it's a British company that we don't we do sexuality stuff on here like we don't like racial stuff We don't you kind of steer clear up, and that's why you well never mind Wow we got a well never mind

Speaking of steering clear. Okay. Okay. And this is, I mean, it's obviously very different from being obsessed. We'll get that out of the way right here. Totally. There's being obsessed. And then there's riding for something. And then there's riding for.

So anyone from Spotify is like, hey, that's our show. We canceled it, but we still own it. You can't do it anymore. Well, we're not. We're not obsessed with this stuff. We're writing for it. Exactly. I'm shocked you guys get the nuance of that.

What are some things you were obsessed with? Carmix. I'm not here to talk about that. Okay. Overcompensating. What are you here to do? Sorry, one second. What are you here to talk about that. Okay. Oh, what are you here to do? Sorry. One second. What are you here to do?

I thought I was hosting. What's with this? An episode of abundance. What? That was the prompt. What's with this, the, the key art on the show. Everyone's all piled up. It's a party, party vibe.

Can you pull up this key art? I want to get a look at it too, because I haven't had a chance. You've been too busy in the severance writer's room. Do they make you go up in an elevator and you can't remember what you did at work? No. That makes me feel like she, she thinks she's in college for real.

And she has really immersed herself in being straight as well. Doesn't seem very proud to me. Let's look at this key art. Really quick. Doesn't seem that proud. Let's get a look at the key art. I would like to understand. Everyone's all, look at this.

Oh my God. Look at this. Everyone's all would like to understand everyone's all look at this God Look at this. Everyone's all piled up. It's been pretty fun to shoot though, but Disgusting. Oh my god It looks like everyone's having a pretty good time. Oh my god Whoa. Oh wait. Oh, we know this guy. Oh Yeah, no one of these guys which one it's the big dog big dog. He's doing the show, yeah, big dog. Yeah, Dog DeMarco, he's. Yeah, Big Dog DeMarco.

Yeah, that's what his name was on the call sheet too. That's why I said it. Big Dog DeMarco. He's done the show. Mm-hmm. He's doing it again soon. To promote this? No.

Okay, I hope, because it's like, we're barely getting half an episode out of this. to promote this? No. Okay, I hope, because it's like, we're barely getting half an episode out of this, and then we're gonna have him here on the same promotional tour? I thought Amazon might've just anticipated that they might want another cut at it. And then they get to pick which one comes out. They thought maybe that a straight white guy

could relate to you guys better. They were doing a litmus test with a bi girl, but clearly not going very well, so. The good bi girl. He could be bi if he wanted. Adam? Mm-hmm. You should tell him that.

I'm going to. First of all, I am telling him right now, he's a fan of the show. He listed the show, he's gonna know. So literally everything I've said, I've been telling him. That's true. We were told you were a fan of the show, how does that make you feel? Who told you that?

Yeah, what was that? Publicist. I walked in and I heard, she's a fan of the show, and then when I started talking you I was like this motherfucker has no idea what this show is Yes, I've heard the show. I've listened to her personal publicist or one for the show I think one for the show. Do you have a personal one? It was my personal publicist. Oh, I apologize. But it's not really personal. It's professional, I would say. She doesn't like go out and like publicize

like what's going on in my family or anything. It's about the show. I brought them on feed for the show. So it's just for this project. Just for this podcast. Just for this podcast. I couldn't get cut through the noise of all the people clamoring to do Hollywood Handbook.

Well, here we are. I said, what is this, a podcast or Variety's Comics to Watch? Could we get the guy who were trying to impress on the horn? It's harder to get on here than Variety's Comics to Watch. Did you get Variety's Comics to Watch? No. Yeah, okay.

And Bebe? Mububu. And Bebe, can we get the, can we get the guy who were trying to impress on the horn? See what he thinks about how this is going so far? Well, he wouldn't know, would he? Cause it hasn't come out yet. Yeah, but he can feel it.

I mean, couple of seconds on speaker, you're gonna have a good sense. Can we say his name? Would it be weird for you to call him? It's private. So everyone gets to know your name and no one gets to even know who he is ever? I haven't decided yet.

I don't know why I've got this like bad vibe. The guy you were dating isn't the same guy who fired your dad, is it? I'm not here to talk about that. Is he a comedy guy? He would say so. That must feel good. If it's a fan of our show, he would say so. But I doubt many would agree.

Does he do stand up? No. That's why it didn't work. Mm-hmm. We got our own language. We're a special breed, man. It's a whole different thing. There's something about being that.

Guys who don't do stand up have their own language? No, us. Because I also do stand up. I know. That's what I'm saying. We're saying the reason it didn't work is because we are part of this community where an outsider just is never gonna really understand us.

It's just. There's something about being at the table. It's the road, yes. You know? At the table, on the road, living out of a. Van. Book bag or yeah. Yeah, it's road, living out of a... Van. Book bag or yeah. Yeah, it's hard, it's hard.

It's hard on personal relationships. And by the way, it's all material, everything. Everything's very game. I mean, you have what you think is a private moment the next night, it's getting aired out on stage in front of everybody. And it's getting aired out on stage in front of everybody. And it's getting laughs. And sometimes you're the butt of the joke.

And sometimes, you're the hero of the story, but you don't get to pick. It's how it gets filtered through this like crazy prism that is the comic's mind. And talk about that a little bit, speak on that. Because you wanted to kind of explain like, you know, what that process is for you, it's different for everybody, obviously,

but that your brain is sort of this like crazy machine that like transforms these little interactions that you have into like, well, it's Rumpelstiltskin up there, yeah? Spinning the straw into gold, and it's comic gold that comes out. Because if you- Because it's a talk about how that works.

You say I'm also a standup, and I think you know as well as we do, if you're an actress, a podcast host, and a standup, you're a standup. Standup first. If you're a standup and ex-girlfriend and a college student. You're a standup.

You're a standup. Yeah. Well, I would say as far as my process, I'm just there to hold a mirror up to society. He did. And sometimes people don't like what's reflected back at them. It wasn't the process really, it was the...

What do you think about that? I was talking to Hayes, tell me to say it again. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. You're there to hold a mirror. Well, you could see me, I was doing it. You're there to hold a mirror up to society.

And sometimes people don't like what they see. But sometimes people like, they're more used to what they look like in a mirror. What people actually don't like is seeing what they look like. Like a photo or something. That's true, when the camera does the flip. So people actually probably like it when you do that. But it can be difficult to explain to your boyfriend

that he is part of society. Right, because I think people like to believe that they're above it or whatever, but they're not. They're not. You are cause you're holding. The mirror. I'm literally on a stage, I'm above them all. Which I'm sure you guys know about that.

Oh yeah. And we're also tall, so. Yeah. How tall are you? That's stupid. Just say. I gotta talk about it. Who cares? I know you're taller, but how tall are you?

Yeah, it's like, who gives a crap? Doesn't matter. Well, I'm the host and I'm asking, and I thought this was an episode of Abundance, and you don't even wanna answer a question of numbers. How tall is Benny? Benny's 6'1". Perfect.

Yeah, of course. Jesus Christ, this guy. Interesting you have a woman on the podcast, That was Benny. Benny61. Perfect. Yeah. Of course. Thanks. Jesus Christ, this guy. That's nice. Interesting you have a woman on the podcast and you ask about her male coho's height. Like I'm sitting right here.

Do you even care how tall I am? But, but when I asked about- That's what I thought. So I've- That's what I thought. No, but I spent so many episodes asking about women's bodies and that also was bad. Yeah, we used to really go through all the specs.

Like anytime we had a woman on the couch- And they'd say, not that part. We'd say, yeah. Okay, let's try a different part. That's even worse. Yeah. Okay. But we were at, we spent a lot of episodes.

I mean, this is episode 601, probably 400 episodes we spent asking about essentially lot of episodes. I mean, this is episode 601 probably 400 episodes We spent asking about essentially women's measure all those different parts They're high and insane number of parts. Yeah, not that like it's not a criticism But like give me a fucking break like Jesus Christ. It's too much. Can I just fuck how many? Honestly, do we need like I feel like your wives? Avoiding talking about your guys sexuality is starting to make more sense. Okay, I was never confused by it.

It was never- It's starting to make more sense to me. It was never something that didn't make, oh good. Oh, thank goodness. But this is- This is good news. It is fair game, like she's right, you know? Like the wives, this is what they signed up for, right?

Well, cause when you're a husband, being with guys like us- You're a stand up. Yep. You know what I mean? Then you're just- Aspiring. You're a stand up. You might be a husband, but if you're a stand up and a husband, you're a stand up.

You're a stand up. You might be a stand up. You're a pretty stand up husband as well. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So interesting the dynamic you guys have. You might be a stand up. You're a pretty stand up husband as well. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So interesting the dynamic you guys have. Have you ever hooked up?

Have Sean and I hooked up or me and my wife? Yeah. You guys together. Oh. Hmm. Hmm. Have we hooked up? I mean like, it's been so many episodes. That you can't fully remember. And you know how sometimes you feel like, Kevin wasn't even here for all of them.

We've done like 90 something. Okay, so even that many, you'll be talking about something and be like, did we do this already? Did we have this exact same conversation before? Yep. And that's how I sometimes think about like, should Sean and I hook up on this one? And they'll be like, didn't we just do that?

Are people sick of that? Didn't we just hook up? Are people gonna be like, oh great, they're hooking up again, like they're sick of it? Because I think we might've done it. Well, you don't want it to be a crutch. And sometimes we'll do something and be like, you did that, like they'll be listening to me like,

you did that already. I know. Is that the type of listeners you guys have? Yeah. We have all kinds of listeners. Okay, it's just good for me to know. We have all kinds of listeners. We have? Yeah. We have all kinds of listeners. Okay. It's just good for me to know. We have all kinds of listeners.

We have you did that already. We have one of every kind. We have you used to do something I liked, you stopped doing it. We have, will you please do something else? What's the request you guys have gotten? Maybe you could try it. We have tried this because of the guest,

did not care for it. We have them. Well, it's something you guys haven't done that the people want to see. Had you on. That's what you want to hear, right? Oh, they really been clamoring for a Mary Beth Barone episode.

So I'm sure they'll love this one. You really put your best foot forward. That's, this is, this is what it's all been leading to, 601. It's like everything is like, forget it. Mary Beth, can you help me with an Instagram post I'm trying to do? Absolutely. Thank you. I'm trying to let everyone know I'm going to be taking a short break from Instagram.

Okay, so kind of classic. Hardest she's laughed. How do I start? Are you going to pull it up on the TV? Yeah, I can't I can't I can't dispute it. I seem to remember some other laughs But I don't have the board in front of me Can I say the most powerful statement about leaving Instagram is to just just leave it? You don't even have to say anything but then that does you can't Like engage you can't like do a post

about not doing that, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's a fundamental misunderstanding of the entire premise of what Kevin's doing. Okay, we'll get the notes back up then. Kevin? Here we go. Okay, so why are you taking a break? Then, it's just so much is happening in the world right now.

I need to take a break. Okay. Well, we definitely don't want to say that in the post cause that'll get picked apart. Like, you know, Oh, you're white. You can just tune it out. That sort of thing. Should it be like, well, maybe say you're not white, Kevin. I think you should make it more about a personal crisis.

So that'll spark intrigue and then you can just sort of dip out. I think it should be a more about a personal crisis. So that'll spark intrigue. And then you can just sort of dip out. It could be a crisis that he's not white. It could be a positive thing. Really? I'm just saying as soon as we landed on, I think sort of a rich area that Kevin's gonna post that he's not white and he's taking a break. You basically like call 911.

You're like, yeah, you were like, oh, it's an emergency. This is like a bad thing. All I'm saying is I see a black square in the notes app under January, which I didn't even know you could do. And so now I'm thinking, did you post the black square? And you're just feeling kind of anxious about it, Kevin. And that's why you want to take a break from social media.

Let's see who posted the black square. I can't read it, it's too small. There's like a link. This is Headgum's collective notes, right? Yep. Yeah, it's a Dropbox link. Okay. Well, I guess, oh, that's a good, actually, okay.

So I think that the message should say, hey everyone, hello to my followers. Hello to my followers. Thanks so much for your loyalty. Parentheses both of you, lol. Yeah, thanks so much for your loyalty. Parentheses both of you, LOL. Yeah, thanks so much for your loyalty throughout the years. I only do. I'm drowning in work right now,

so I'm gonna step away. One for the fellows. Hello my fellows. Over the years. This one's for the fellows. I've decided to take a break from social media due to the workload put upon me by the hosts of Hollywood Handbook

and the abusive conditions under which I'm forced to work day in day out in Silver Lake at the Headgum Studio. I'm doing fine. Legally, I have to say that, but I hope to return one day. It's just not something I can process right now. Thank you guys so much. Do you, because you've done this TV show, when you're in production on a show,

do you do like an automatic response, like a way message where every email that you get kicks back to be like, I'm in production on a TV, do you do like an automatic response, like a way message where every email that you get kicks back to be like, I'm in production on a TV show right now, may not get back to you on time. So no, and I'll tell you why, and maybe you wouldn't know this because you've never acted on a TV show before, you've just sort of been behind the scenes

because whatever, maybe like you don't have the look or whatever it is for an actor. There's a lot of downtime on set. So I would say if anything, I respond to emails like faster. Can I just say, and I'll handle this. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh. It's so funny to me. It's so funny that you would say that he doesn't have the look when he actually is cast in roles where that is literally the only thing they want him to do. Is to just look, no lines.

I bet you get a lot of stuff that Adam Devine passed on. Can I see, can I see from your- Adam Devine doesn't pass on anything first of all. Can I see from- He's a dear friend and I've never known him to pass on a single thing. Show her from the movie that's- Where there's a Gillette Razor commercial.

Your own movie that's imposed right now. Let me see. Oh yeah. Show her. Hang on, hang on. I give that look in it. Does that look familiar? I mean, twice. It's just what you've been doing

on the podcast this whole time. Two different looks. It's cool you wrote yourself into the movie. I guess some actors can audition and book things, other people need to write stuff for themselves. Yeah, have you gotten a lot of requests to write for stuff? No.

No. But you write material, like when you go up on stage. Yeah, I mean, I would say definitely. What I think is really great is that you, obviously, some might say that Benny felt an obligation to put you in the show because you've worked together for so long, but that you did a totally anonymous audition. That he didn't even know that this was his friend

and someone that he'd been doing a podcast with for so long. I think that's beautiful. That's amazing. He wrote me a part in the show because he is very inspired by me, his words. I think it's interesting that you made a movie that's now in post.

How many scenes did you have in it? I did, like, again, people watching it be like, he's only in there because they've done the podcast for 601 episodes. That's not, for me, that's not the kind of attention I want. You know? Like that to me is like, I'm not sitting comfortably. What's the matter?

There's something in my throat. It's kind of dusty in here. And that's bad. It's kind of dusty in here. And that like, that's bad. Your show isn't dusty like what? No, we don't do it in a garage. We do it in an office. Know what this number is? Where they have walls and stuff.

It's the number of episodes I've done of this many different TV shows. Three episodes on three shows. That's really cool. Yeah. So you've done three shows. It is. Yeah.

And you were sort of playing an Adam Devine type. I'm not seeing that at all. I just have to be honest. I don't even know why. I think you've, that's a miss for me. Maybe you're just thinking that because I was on two episodes of Workaholics. No, maybe it's because I see people for who they really are.

Pretty big show. I don't have all the history of the 600 episodes. Pretty big show. I know it's not overcompensating, but a pretty big show. But they would put him on Workaholics where they already have an Adam Devine type who actually is Adam Devine, but they're gonna put him on there and not as a way to confuse people. Or maybe that was, I mean, I don't know.

Was that the idea of the episode that they'd be like? That was never discussed with me, that I was there to be the same type as someone else who was on the show who already was who he was. That wasn't brought up to me. If that was the idea. But you're credited as body double. So now I don't know where we are.

It's like some kind of like crazy bit you're doing, I guess. But like, and I wanna love it. And I wanna be there with you because like, this is the kind of comedy I absolutely go nuts for, where it's like this sort of like fake world. Creating alternate realities. Yes, where it's like I'm like credit as body double. But I guess it's maybe because you don't find women funny.

That must be because you don't find women funny. It's like, if I was the man on the show, like if Adam was here and he was just saying like, oh, you're credited as body double, ah ha ha ha ha, your head goes back with laughter. Well, Adam would have been there. Adam would have been responsible for what the credit was. The way he would do it would probably get me going.

That would crush. That would get me going. But. You're honestly not gonna admit that. Wait. Me? Yes. You would think it was funny if he did that. You wouldn't think that was funny at all.

I guess I would, because it'd be so unexpected. For him to say that. Yeah. I guess I've just established a high benchmark for this. I am not thinking about him doing it. He'd have like a physicality to it, you know what I mean? Well, he does a lot of physical stuff, which I don't really, I don't know why.

Yeah, I don't, again, it's a complete. You can check with my wife, I don't do any physical stuff. It's a swinging strike for me. I'm trying to think what your casting type is. Keep thinking. Mm-hmm. I'm thinking. You're gonna need all day.

I'll get back to you. Mm-hmm. They broke the mold. It's been established. Mm-hmm. Well, you are quite tall. Mm-hmm. Which I guess a lot of actors are short.

That's what I read online. Anya, Paul, or Joy, I mean, that's what we've established. Kristen Schaal was saying I look like Anya Taylor-Joy, but she pronounced it Anna, I think. A lot of people do that, and then I find myself correcting the pronunciation of a name of someone I don't even know.

I mean, it's right there. It's like Walton Goggins. It's just written out, yeah. Because people say Walter. Yeah. Myself among them for a while until I was viciously corrected by a straight man. Who?

Can't say. I wonder what- Is this the next boyfriend again? She will not plug him under any circumstances. I'm never gonna get his name. I wonder what put Adam Devine into that big beautiful brain of yours. Wonder what it was that got.

That's how I look. I've never gotten that. Wait, when I said if Adam said you were the body double, did you think I meant Adam Devine or Adam DiMarco? I thought you meant Adam Devine. I meant Adam DiMarco. Adam DiMarco said it? I'm not laughing. Futureine. I meant Adam DeMarco. Adam DeMarco said it? I'm not laughing.

Future guest. I'm not laughing. Okay. I'm moved. I tell, I'm very moved by that. Yes. I'm transported. That's the power he has.

Yes. Well, he's an actor. He's not a standup. So. Are you, you're, you think you're correcting me? I'm agreeing with you. I'm yes ending Okay, something you guys could learn a thing or two about okay. Well, they don't they normally don't begin well

They've been and with so You know that sounds like I guess you haven't done much improv with women No comment He's just trying to remember. Was that a bleep? Yeah. Okay. Bye.

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