Hollywood Handbook - Michael Shanks, Our Together Friend

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

The Boys welcome noted Australian/director Michael Shanks on the show and subject him to a Teaser Freezer of his own movie, Together.GET A NEW SHIRTYPHSUS SHIRT HEREWatch the video of today�...�s episode at Patreon.com/HollywoodHandbook This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Hollywood Handbook via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a headgum podcast. The filmmaker. Movies. Oh, the filmmaker is here. I'm so sorry. I called it a movie. It's not a movie. It's a film.
Starting point is 00:00:20 The filmmaker. My film. Fucking. Fucking professor. or fucking science expert something. It's a movie. A filmmaker is a glorified
Starting point is 00:00:37 cat sitter. Literally words out of my mouth. What is a filmmaker actually doing? Other than just being like where's the cat? They're wrangling, right?
Starting point is 00:00:53 They're wrangling. They're feeding and sort of, yes, caring for, you know giving little treats to these cats these mercurial yes these creatures who are so curious and get themselves into trouble sometimes through their curiosity
Starting point is 00:01:10 and all the filmmaker is doing is basically well filming them as they go about filming this yeah making them kiss pushing their faces together together now the cats have to kiss by the way
Starting point is 00:01:27 most cat sitters in a more traditional, you know, structure who were forcing the cats to kiss one another would not be, you know, considered particularly good at their jobs. Even the ones you can tell sometimes you have a cat sitter over. Yep. And they take a picture, you know, they like to take a picture to send you. So you know, cats are alive. Cats are comfy. The cat's alive, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:58 And these are, oh, now he was. Just a second, Michael. That was the time that he decided to come in. Well, I didn't have too much cat content to. I think there was a spot where it had been, you were thinking it's been too long that I've gone without speaking. I absolutely was. And now I'm like, spot, that's the name of data's cat and Star Trek.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Is that anything? And it's not. And yet, even no. Even knowing, and I agree it was too long, even knowing that when you came in, for me, not the moment because Hayes was getting to something really good about how the cat sitters take a picture. They take a picture of the cat to show you like these are the same cats that were here before when you were here. Same cats. Everything normal. Yep. But you can kind of tell sometimes that they were just kissing that they were their faces that just kind of look like they were just mooshed together a second ago. And we have a picture of that too, but that's not the one they're sending. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I'd love to see the full camera roll. What was cut? What was left on the catting room floor? What's so yummy. And so Kevin, make it that that's the first thing Michael says. Because the time before, and I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:03:24 beat this to death, right? Like what would happen in one of your movies? All this scary stuff. The film man is filming them beating each other to death. With Jay also, it's basically something else that you wouldn't want the cats that are to do, but they'll do it. But they'll do it.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I don't want to beat to death, but the first time that you came in, I wish it had been something like this with the catting room floor. Yeah. I was talking to Mark Banana from Auntie Donna about doing this podcast. I know no come on we cannot keep doing this fucking Australian
Starting point is 00:04:01 on the fucking show has to let us know we know Auntie Donna well we know Auntie Donna too you actually don't have to be there to know them and it's not that great and anytime I'm like do you know those guys do you know Auntie Donna to an Australian person they're like it's a fucking country
Starting point is 00:04:19 I don't like we don't all know each other but then it's like yeah you do. Yeah, we do. You absolutely do. So, uh, so you're a mark guy, huh? I'm thinking, I'm thinking of becoming a Mark guy myself. Yeah. Yeah, we've been primarily Broden gang. I'm Zach Pack. Oh, oh, I've been, I've been Broden pilled for a while now. He's, he's, to me, the one who I've seen the most, which maybe that's why I'm not. That's so interesting. But my stories to say with why I'm Zach Pack. Because I've seen Brod in the most.
Starting point is 00:04:54 So inaccessible. Zach's so, he's so far removed. I can't, I don't think I can get old of him. And that actually does make him really appealing. And this Broden, because I've been a Broden bud for a while. I got to get away. I got to get away from that. Grody Brody, Brody, that's not good.
Starting point is 00:05:15 But now I'm meeting a Mark guy, you know. Max is the direct guy. I'm a Max guy. I'm a Max guy. I had never even. considered that a mark man a mark i've forgotten there was a mark mark in a series uh seven sorry sorry sure uh you know seven years ago uh so that's that's was my way in was through mark that's how i kind of met those guys bitter context
Starting point is 00:05:43 so so you were talking to him about potentially doing the show and he had some words of wisdom, I'm sure. Yeah, he said, nah, man, you'll be good, you're funny. And I think we're learning how polite Mark Bernard
Starting point is 00:05:59 maybe is. Michael, yeah, shanks, well, this is your classic self-deprecating, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:08 dry wit. Oh, yes. From the guy who came up with catting room floor a couple minutes ago, a couple minutes too late, but a couple minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:06:15 It's going to be my epitaph. Schimble shanks. Oh, the railway. Yeah. He's like to say Skibble Shanks, yeah. Shanks for the memories. Shanks for the memories, and you know his movies, great.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Shank you very much. You say that after screening. Shank you very much for coming. Oh, yeah, every single time. To every person individually, I shake their hands. We kiss. I say shank you very much. You a golfer?
Starting point is 00:06:44 I hope not. I am not golfer. Oh, I hope not. I don't believe your ancestors were either. at least not in any way in any notable positive way shanking it
Starting point is 00:06:59 Michael shanks is the director of the film Together in theaters before are we saying that right together yeah yeah that's it not to get her as some people might read it
Starting point is 00:07:14 Togathor the noble beast Togathor wicked haunting the mountains. Yes? This is what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've seen it. Yeah, you get it. I saw it. Yeah, I was there.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Can we roll that clip? Kevin, do you have that clip? Can we roll that? Be seeing it? Throw the clip up. Go ahead. I mean, it must be you must be still be riding so high.
Starting point is 00:07:49 from seeing your movie and having so much fun seeing. I mean, it must be your favorite movie, yes? It's certainly the movie I've watched the most now. I sort of never want to see it again. But every time that there's, there was a Q&A screening last night here in Melbourne
Starting point is 00:08:04 and still kind of like sneaking in at some of the moments where, you know, it's going to get a little laugh. Oh, that's the filmmaker. That's the filmmaker. That's the, you know how you're like at the rest of you're like, that's the chef?
Starting point is 00:08:17 Oh, yeah. And everyone's like, oh, he's really famous. that's the chef over there. The worst thing is, it's like being in the lobby and people are going to see other movies and me just like standing around kind of feeling so thirsty.
Starting point is 00:08:27 That's fucked. Like, oh, hey, man. Hi. That's fucked that they go see another movie in front of you. Yeah, it's no good. What were they seeing? Sounds like it must be pretty good though.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Must be something more seeing her. They were doing like a Jaws 50th anniversary. There's an Akira. Oh, well, I mean, like, yeah, like just dog shit movie. We begrudge them Jaws. Michael
Starting point is 00:08:51 you've come on our show today ready maybe to look back on the experience which is done it's over yeah you talk a little bit
Starting point is 00:09:05 about never wanting to see the movie forever yeah no you do at some point we got to move on something we say on the podcast a lot
Starting point is 00:09:14 and it's unfortunate truism in this town you're only as good is your next film. You know what I mean? Your next, your next one.
Starting point is 00:09:26 So, so you do have to kind of say, whatever I've done, that's done, did that. Took your little victory lap, you know, as you were talking about nonstop.
Starting point is 00:09:37 But now we're at this point where we can kind of have an honest appraisal. I know you didn't want to see the movie again. But of at least the teaser, and whether it even like was from the movie like I don't even know you know like we we we do a lot a lot of we do a lot of these things we get the teaser tweezers and we go to the teaser times once or twice once or twice we've done this Michael once or twice we've looked at the teaser we have a little bit experience here by oh yeah just a little bit not my first uh teased not my first time cleaning off
Starting point is 00:10:23 the teaser tweezers to go into the teaser freezer and this movie i'm excited to watch my teaser today this movie stars dave franco and alison brie who did you agree on whether to be friends after this is all over did you guys yeah was that still in flux i i thought we had agreed but they may have had a different opinion. We can feel it's sort of petering out, huh? Yeah, yeah. The group trap is not as lively as it was. They're the goats. I got friends for life, baby.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I'll tell you what I saw. Text in the GC. Yeah, let's see the very, the most recent. Most recent, uh, the scrolling. It's four blue ones. I'm scrolling back. Why are you scrolling back? Wednesday, 5.16 p.m.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Alison Brie. Ha, ha, ha, ha, cute. Holy shit. Yeah. And it really, it's, it, it all is on Miss Brie, isn't it? I said, we're still friends right? And she responded. Yeah. And it all is on her to, to, to, to, to carry that.
Starting point is 00:11:33 It's at her discretion. Hmm. And also, you know, her name looks like all is on. And it all is on her shoulders. And it all is on her at the premiere because she got that shit on. Hmm. I mean, she really put that shit on for it. And the two of them, they know, they're, their friends?
Starting point is 00:11:52 Their friends. Tell me what was going on. Well, yeah, they're married. They've been married for a long time. They've been together for over decades. Unfortunately, Mike, unfortunately doesn't always mean your friends. Oh, that's a grim insight. My onset bit, this is me on set.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I'm growing up to people like, guys. I think Dave and Allison are fucking that's my unsaid bet I'm the AD also I should not I'm not
Starting point is 00:12:25 maybe the last person who should be doing that yeah I've got to have like the most professional face for the entirety I'm like there to keep this thing on rails
Starting point is 00:12:34 and I keep leaning over during the take to the sound guy who's trying to make sure he's going my man my man I think
Starting point is 00:12:45 Alson Dave are fucking I saw her going to his trailer earlier there's nothing they could have done but fucked in there the two of them goddamn movie
Starting point is 00:13:01 the two of them I'll say this promo dogs oh yeah you got a couple promo dogs on your hand you don't deserve them
Starting point is 00:13:12 Michael well you know hopefully i certainly don't but hopefully the film does uh it was you know honestly inspiring because i had to go through the whole press thing i've never done that before and uh they they helped me elevate my game watching these two pros did you go through the whole press thing uh yeah did you didn't see or did they no yeah they went through the whole press thing you were there for you were there for some of it but at some point they just kind of left you behind it said they'd they'd come back for you if they could yeah well we did this thing uh i think It was called Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen.
Starting point is 00:13:45 It's like a Bravo show. And it's like, they were the guests and I was the barkeeper. And they're like, you've got to be camera ready. You've got to be like ready to go. We could cut you at any time. Sat there the whole time, never got thrown to. It was not on camera. No, no conversation at all.
Starting point is 00:14:00 No conversation. I had zingers. You seen how good I am interjecting and other people talking. And I was like, oh, maybe now, maybe now. If they gave you time, yeah. Actually, Andy did introduce me at one point and he read the wrong teleprompter and called me a totally different name. Teleprompter.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Teleprompter? Is that what it is? Cucats? I don't know. I think we just say telepros. You say, we say it different. We say it different. Tell me sure do. We sure do. But those guys, they really put their whole ass into it. Well, I at one point was like, and by the way,
Starting point is 00:14:39 really enjoyed the movie. congratulations everyone seems to love this thing but i started to be like this can't just be about the movie for them anymore something else was going on there i think they did hot ones three times yes yeah you said your movie deserves this no movie deserves that much like it just wasn't about the movie i don't they was like some kind of press king that they were playing out with one another. Yeah, a humiliation ritual. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And by the way, they said, I'm here for it. Yeah, it was great. Neon kind of suggests a little stuff that they should do. They had this thing where they, like, had rats climb all over them. What's so answering questions? They got covered in rat piss and shit. And, you know, they were down for the whole thing. Like, real, real pros, love them.
Starting point is 00:15:37 When the plague comes back, we'll know who to blame. your movie it's it's like it's like honestly there's two stars of your movie uh
Starting point is 00:15:48 the they they actually were familiar with another movie as well the yes man because they decided to say yes to everything well you said that um
Starting point is 00:16:02 say press to everything say yes to the press yes to the press 27 presses yeah yeah yeah dude yes dude yes yep yeah at least
Starting point is 00:16:16 texting mock banana it's going well just got 27 27 presses through Hayes yeah cool thanks for sending that through Hollywood handbook Rocket Raccoon needs to buy stuff at the store
Starting point is 00:16:35 pay for things what does he use his tail oh sorry no his tail I'm just thinking about a raccoon very prominent feature right
Starting point is 00:16:47 they have a very bulbous tail but he wouldn't use that for money swipe it through the credit card machine there's a and he's in a it's a science fiction sort of space world that he's in maybe there's a chip
Starting point is 00:17:03 implanted the end of his tail it's like our credit card chip He brushes that over the... I mean, is this a cool idea to you? But the currency, sure. Yeah, obviously, like, he could still... He can use his tail. He could use a chip in his tail.
Starting point is 00:17:16 But the currency he would use would be rocket money. The money is... Yeah, the money's rocket money. It'd be rocket money. He's rocket money. No, no, no, no, no, obviously. He uses rocket money, which shoots out of his tail. It's a personal finance app that helps find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And so he would probably have rock... I don't want to use any of the brand names. It would probably be something else crazy. too or maybe theirs is normal ours go ahead our names for streaming platforms are kind of crazy and futuristic
Starting point is 00:17:44 so ours sound like bzorb bzorb you know chronomax chronomax perfect so that so that's what ours are like so maybe theirs would be more normal words and it would just be called like
Starting point is 00:18:01 rocket they'd be called like milk or something something normal yeah the streaming platform there would probably be called milk, but they think milk is crazy. Salt. Salt. Well. Anyway, he would cancel. He's going on adventures for a long time.
Starting point is 00:18:16 And so he's... Salt's a bad example. Can I try a guess? Yeah, sure, yes. Go ahead. Just one more, please. He's canceling a subscription to this where we're going to name it in a second because he's going on a long adventure to monitor his spending and help lower his bill so he can grow his savings.
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Starting point is 00:21:46 you know, asking these questions among ourselves, speculating on what could be happening in the movie, but we've never really had someone directly involved with the film, let alone the filmmaker here to actually address like what's happening for us when we watch these things and be able to say, like, that was intentional. oh, you're picking up on something, you know, oh, I didn't even know this about my own film, what you've discovered. But yes, of course, subconsciously,
Starting point is 00:22:13 that must have been in there, you know. So it would be nice to have one of the major creative forces behind the film other than ourselves, since you seem committed to not saying it for some reason. You did listen to this podcast the entire time you edited the movie. movie. The movie is actually made in the editing bay. Yeah, it's, it's kind of like there's that Metallica whiskey that they brew where they put the barrels next to speakers playing Metallica all day long.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Like whilst I was, yeah, black it, of course, yeah. Whilst I was doing the visual effects, I was listening to this podcast quite a lot. So I feel like it's infused, yeah. That's the last thing, Kevin ever says. And can you taste it? It was all leading to this. Can you taste the metal? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Oh, yeah. Well, I had blackened cigars at the wedding. Oh, wow. Have you seen that video of Hetfield promoting those cigars? He's like, yeah, you know, I'd just like to get through, smoke these with my buds in a room full of smoke, a room full of truth. That does sound like that. Very cool. It's wearing a black cowboy hat, oh, it rocks.
Starting point is 00:23:31 The, and so we were, you were. channeling our inspiration through your fingers what you really you find out what the movie is in there because you're writing and you don't know what you're actually going to get
Starting point is 00:23:46 the day you shoot you shoot and you don't know actually what you got but you see watch it and it's a load of crap it is and it is we didn't get it is Bay but your films it's
Starting point is 00:23:57 it's it's never as good as the dailies and it's never as bad as the first cut right the truth and so and so the the first cut obviously is unwatchable you don't you know you can't use it and you got to go well what is the movie can i find it in in the editing b a e bay and and so you sit down in there and in your case you go i don't really need to hear the movie or want to
Starting point is 00:24:23 i need to hear something that's actually good yeah and then i'll just kind of be able to feel I'll accidentally do something good while the other good thing is happening. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Of course. I mean, it was more in the visual effects kind of element of the film once the film by being cut. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Well, that was a big part of the movie? It's a big part of the movie. It's not an important aspect of the movie at all, was it? Yeah. No. The movie about two people hugging. That sounds interesting. Normal hugs, right?
Starting point is 00:24:57 I guess we should just throw out all the visual effects then. It's all normal hugs. hugs. Why not? Nothing strange about the hugs in the movie. No. There's some of a pretty involved hugs. It's pretty unusual, right? And that's the visual effects telling us that. Yeah, the characters say it. And the characters say it as well. Yeah. Look at me expanding on that. This hug. I'd love to launch. I'd love to launch in to the teaser if we could let's do it with everyone's permission no that can't be right nine percent on rotten tomatoes it says nine percent rotten tomatoes this and so you fucked this one
Starting point is 00:25:45 this this thumbnail is fucked now what we're gonna what we're gonna what we're gonna see right is that this number goes up i i really hope so okay oh let's watch and let's watch and see if it goes off it goes down from nine wow 100% on Rotten Tomatoes wow I guess when I'm creating something I kind of want to challenge
Starting point is 00:26:14 people I do think well and you know from the show you listen to it that art is sort of meant to provoke and oftentimes to alienate and infuriate I guess if some
Starting point is 00:26:30 people aren't into my stuff I kind of wear that as a badge of honor yeah this means the bad people and the good people liked it well I guess I'm having to you know what I mean we're now when I'm down to 90 percent so you know we've maybe equalized a little bit I hope it's the right 90 percent and then I'm I subtracting the nine from that I don't know how we started at nine what was the nine we started with I believe it was the beginning of a count up sort of graphic animation right Did it start with zero? I think it started with nine. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:05 So I guess I'm going like, that'd be exhausting. What about one? Can I tuck you into one? I mean, Sean is right that like the implication of 100% on Rotten Tomatoes is that Glein Maxwell likes the movie.
Starting point is 00:27:30 is digging on the movie everyone likes it including and possibly especially Glenn Maxwell I thought you said Glenn Maxwell who's an Australian cricketing legend but hopefully he would like the film Glenn Maxwell might want to move off
Starting point is 00:27:48 that territory somehow he may want to start going by Gmax or something Glenard or something even does yeah but Galais Maxwell obviously this is
Starting point is 00:28:02 according to this she tells everyone she meets I have a new favorite movie which is like you know I guess that's if it's what you set out to do okay mission accomplished
Starting point is 00:28:19 bought a ticket that's money in my pocket so would she have bought a ticket maybe she was given one in exchange for a favorable testimony but that's no money in your pocket i suppose the u.s government bought the tickets the letters were moving together the letters and together were becoming together themselves the letters so talk about this i bet that was your idea well you know they're getting all squished
Starting point is 00:28:51 it seemed like an obvious but sort of unmissable a piece of kinetic typography to have the sort of premise of the film with things coming together, merging, becoming one, be expressed within the title of the film itself. Just kind of seemed like it like- Squishing and squishing, yeah. It's a movie about squishing. So they're all married to each other, all the letters? Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And they're all boys or all girls? An alphabetical poly-quil. Letters are different or, yeah. my bit in the sort of graphics room as there's stuff like this I think the G and the O are fucking The G and the O The G and the O
Starting point is 00:29:45 Yeah What happens next Whose house is this? Stop it. Within the world of the film, it is the character's house, but in real life, it is a house in the suburb of Upway and the Dandenongs in Victoria. It was sort of the only location that would possibly work for this. And I think the homeowners are very mad at us because we broke some tiles or something like that. Is this movie at night?
Starting point is 00:30:23 Sometimes, although I think we shot this during the day and we've, we've done. blacked out the windows with movie magic. And so that's why there's... That's why they're... Victorian families are mad. The fucking Dandenog folks are gonna be fucking livid, dude. Doing magic on the house.
Starting point is 00:30:44 It looks like night. You do not want to piss off the Dandenog. But that does explain why their beds are next to them, but they're standing up. Because it's daytime. Michael, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:59 That's the towel. You know what a traditional, uh, a festive holiday time drink is here? Some dandy nog. A little dandy nog. Care for some dandy nog, Victoria? Just say Australia next time, please. Just say it's in Australia.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Upway. Upway. Oh, up your way. yeah well no she goes you cares for some dandy nog victoria upway as she takes this just australia is mine
Starting point is 00:31:36 he said I love you she said okay neither of them said good night because as you said they this was daytime yeah another tell is it hard sometimes with actors to get them to say
Starting point is 00:31:55 good night during the daytime I mean obviously it was you couldn't make them do it we just did not get there are there techniques because this is your first you know feature film right so are there techniques at all
Starting point is 00:32:07 that you picked up like let's say on the next movie you want it you want it to feel like it's nighttime like is there anything you've learned through the process is this kind of what we try to do on the show is like
Starting point is 00:32:19 you know peek behind the curtain here and say like this is this is you know this is the stuff that I wish I had known at the time, right? Yeah, it can be tough, particularly when the actors themselves, as you say,
Starting point is 00:32:33 they can present sort of a united front and you try and get them where they need to go, but certainly. Yeah, exactly. Kind of what the movie is about, they form a united front. Yeah. And side and back.
Starting point is 00:32:51 But you, but you know, it is interesting because now I'm picturing it that you would go, hey, would you mind trying one? Like, that was so good. Oh, I love that. Oh, that was so good. Chills. Perfect. We have it just for fun. Let's see
Starting point is 00:33:07 what, let's see how it feels. Could this be crazy if we do one where we say good night? So people know that we're going to bed, you know? And then, and then she'll go, it's daytime. And then he'll go, yeah, it's daytime.
Starting point is 00:33:25 but that was so good though that was so good when you forgot to say that you were supposed to say that was a ad that was such a good choice just for safety just for safety it's one more time yeah yeah yeah it was such a good choice when you did it wrong in the moment to just the presence of mind to excise good night which let us know sort of where and when we were it was truly moving This is why you work with people you're a fan of. I wonder if we get one scripted. This is what we'll use, but I wonder if we do it just in the edit
Starting point is 00:34:10 so we can actually have a sort of compare and contrast thing there where we see how much better this is as a celebration of you and your choice to do it wrong. what's going on there from the picture we saw a picture there from the picture yeah yeah on their
Starting point is 00:34:36 Facebook post this is a common but always effective device at the beginning of a movie to have a guy who comes in the movie and says so what's up with
Starting point is 00:34:50 everybody so what's everybody's kind of a whole deal. Well, and I'll be honest, when I'm watching the movie, I want to know that. Yeah. So that character in a way is me. Mm-hmm. That's me.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And when you look at the screen, it becomes very clear that it is me. How do I know this guy, Michael? Damon Harriman. He's been in a lot of stuff, Mr. In Between, which is an Australian series, but he was Charles Manson in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. And he was Charles Manson in. mind hunter in the same year that's good sort of a Hal Holbrook
Starting point is 00:35:29 Mark Twain thing you need Charlie this is your guy well yeah like when we when we cast him he was like so keen he had the scheduling didn't really work but he like moves heaven and earth to make it work he was just like mate I just get to play like a normal guy
Starting point is 00:35:47 in this I'm always playing a fucking serial killer he was he was so keen he was so keen he was so keen he was keen as mustard yeah that he was so good yeah he was drenched yeah we told him off and he was like oh i'm so excited to do this i just get to play a nice guy sitting down in a chair with a shirt love it since the move tim and i haven't been on the same page well we just saw them on the same page the same facebook page you love each other we literally just saw them on the same complacent
Starting point is 00:36:24 stop this did you write this song and did you write this shirt did you write this shirt no our costume department found this shirt um i i i i it's a sweatshirt and then who wrote on it i don't know i'll be honest i never really liked the stop that much but here it is
Starting point is 00:36:54 guys thank you so much great choice to have a shirt to have a shirt that is a book in my movie hey mike well you know complacency can sometimes simply be so happy they can't sing like we said and it's sticky sticky so stop it Now, I've seen the movie. What was that? And I haven't seen it yet. I wanted to go in cold to this experience. But I got to know.
Starting point is 00:37:44 What was that? Well, I mean, within the world of the film, it's this kind of infection that Dave's character, Tim, catches first, that kind of, stuff to change his, makes him, you know, kind of really imprint upon his part of it. And in reality, what we did was- Answer Kevin's question first. What was that? That was called a human kiss? And now, and now Hayes and I were asking about the sort of end of it.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Oh, right. Yeah, when it got stuck together. That was just some glue. The makeup team found this kind of glue that would stick, but not rip. And yeah, we got some good takes out of that. So he's the one who's sticky? He begins sticky, and then at a certain point, she, he passes. And is it a mystery of like the audience has to figure out which one is so sticky? Who's sticky? Oh, that, oh, I know it's a little late for this. The whole thing, just billboards everywhere.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Who's sticky? Who's sticky? www. Michael shanks.com to find out. Who is sticky stinicky? Yeah. Who's sticky? I know how I figured out.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I don't think we need stincky. You take him to the beach, you figure it out pretty quick. Take them both to the beach. Oh, yeah. So smart. Take a little sand on them. Ha ha.
Starting point is 00:39:16 This is for anyone, obviously, you know, elements of this at least are fictional or, um, well it's science fictional really which is such an opportunity for allegory which is running rampant but there are real life scenarios where you do sometimes need to diagnose who is sticky whether it's you or your partner and as hayes is saying a quick drive to the beach that'll get that i mean one yeah one thing that people were saying when we were kind of shopping this film around is people kept saying it's like a hollywood thing
Starting point is 00:39:52 to say that like a premise is sticky. It's like what's selling right now is sticky premises. And like this, this is a sticky premise. That's what people get saying. And little did they know. No kidding. It's not just a sticky premise. It's a sticky couple who's sticking together.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Yeah. It's like a stuck on you situation. Hollywood handbook. Ever feel like managing your business finances is a full-time job on top of your actual full-time job? I haven't, but I know a lot of people do feel that way. but I can even like at home I can hear them being like
Starting point is 00:40:25 yeah oh yeah I feel like that but like I have it actually do I haven't felt that way it's a great question for the audience because I hear about people feeling that way all the time for me
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Starting point is 00:45:48 Roll over that you're on my hair. Of something wonderful. Tim. What was that? We spend our... Stop that. Was he... Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I think I know what happened. She rolls over. He's lying in bed. And she's like, Tim? And she thought he was sleeping. And that freaked her out because she forgot it's actually supposed to be night time in the movie. yeah yeah something like that um yeah it's a spooky scene set in the night again shot during the day we got to use this cool prosthetic of dave though that we used for that scene that i have on on my wall
Starting point is 00:46:27 kind of over there which is you know a really cool thing to have in my house great shot that's the property of the movie wow what a great director i'm really yeah yeah look at this got an incredible shot over here wow the composition The influence by the Barnes collection, no doubt. Hopefully it's the effects. So, yeah, throw on a, throw on a, throw on the latest episode with Michael Shanks. Yeah, I think I'll be skipping that one. What, uh, so can I ask something that I don't know if anyone has probably tackled yet?
Starting point is 00:47:05 Are you, Tim? Hmm. Is Tim you? And that's why you have the mask? The mosque? Michael, are you, Tim? Well, I mean, the, sorry, the, the perspective, whatever you call it. Yeah, the, the artificial face.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I'm so sorry, my friend called it a mask. Yeah, like, well, the Tim Carrier is very much like a bit of a self-insert, like a sort of a self-deprecating self-insert of like a guy who's like an embarrassed kind of failed musician who should kind of give it up now that he's entering his sort of mid-30s. I can't hope to notice the three guitars on your wall. Oh, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:47:50 When I make movies, I cast a guy who is like really good body. Yeah. Like an insanely good body and be like, that's kind of me in the movie. Yeah. Yeah. Jesus Christ, you sniffed it out. That's me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:07 How'd you figure that one out? Literally writing in shower scenes for Dave to show off his buddy, be like, yeah, that's what I shower like. Yeah, that's kind of me. Must be all the three guitar playing that, uh, got it got those muscles so rippling.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Lives in search of the other half. If you think you found that. He's in the shower. He went to sleep because he forgot his daytime now. And then so, pause it because he smashed
Starting point is 00:48:40 into the shower wall. Go ahead. He's smashing the shower. She turns right in her car and then he smashes into the side of the shower because the shower is in the car. The showers inside the car. So this was actually, visually I could not really figure out how you did this. And I guess
Starting point is 00:49:02 it's the VFX you were describing. But basically, for people who can watch along the trailer with us, I'm realizing too that usually Kevin described. the trailer badly as a big part of these teaser but the the car looks like a normal car but inside the trunk is a tall stand-up shower with tile and when it turns you can be moving all this way and that and then Dave I guess was so sticky that he had to take a shower had to take a shower
Starting point is 00:49:40 in the trunk of the car. Did you ever explain why the house shower was not working? The house shower? Oh, because it's in the car. Right. I felt that well, you know, that's not really. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Thank you for doing the work. Thank you so much for doing the work yourself. What's really happening is it's kind of like he's got this imprint on him of her and so she's driving outside of the house it's like he's sort of the the point of a compass pointing towards
Starting point is 00:50:13 her north so the further she gets he's kind of pointing in her direction from the car yeah listen to me go back what was on the TV what was on the TV just in case I want to watch
Starting point is 00:50:33 something else during this um that's It's like, it's a wedding video that was not shot in the Dandenongs. That was somewhere else in rural Victoria, but I can't remember where. Can we see, so there's a lot of quotes about how good the movie is. Yeah. We should do that actually during our podcast like Michael does. Just unashamedly put someone else liking the show during it.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Just stop. the show down and just especially on the video that it should just cut to black like every couple minutes and just have some of the frankly embarrassing praise that we've received over the years whether it be best non-human guest award at the end of the year from vulture for my dog or that's the main one that comes to mind but i guess to michael we should be embarrassed because Galeen Maxwell hates our show. Right. She specifically has asked not to have it played.
Starting point is 00:51:42 She has not a kind word to say about it. But I am curious about this one. Can you advance a little bit, Kevin? I have a note on this one quote here to the quote. Listen to me. It says, Alice and Bree and Dave Franco go absolutely wild. And I think it should say Alice and Bree and Dave
Starting point is 00:52:05 Franco go absolutely wild on each other's heinies and you can close the quote and then just put on each other's hynees at the ed that's actually cool that it's a new screen
Starting point is 00:52:23 and it just says on each other's hynees it's kind of implied yeah i mean that's what i do like about it is that i sort of assuming that it's unfinished like there must be more must be say what they're going absolutely wild on and if it's not each other's heinous we're talking about two different movies because that's what i saw we've got to get out of you stop it they're not talking about the movie right they're talking about the the set
Starting point is 00:53:02 by the way I'm all for like finding pieces you know and just like using it like you said basically you built it all in the edit and then you didn't know what the movie was at all when you were filming it but if you sort of were recording them
Starting point is 00:53:19 without their knowledge saying we've got to get out of here about their involvement with the film it feels a little disingenuous no they were happy to be there um honestly they you know they produced the film they uh yeah it was great but what did that mean in practice we got to get out of here no the like the producing producing oh it was sincerely it was awesome you know they've so experienced that made so many
Starting point is 00:53:54 films both indie and studio before this was my first film they kind of felt like this shield protecting me movie's playing sorry uh Sorry, it's going. Sorry, the movie's going, Michael. Yeah. Where's he going? Where's that man going? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:11 He's screwed along the driveway. Someone who's seen it, they don't say, but they don't say. I don't think Michael knows. I certainly don't know. I saw the movie. He's going towards her as sort of what's happening in that scene. They're being literally like magnetic. Why is he not in the shower?
Starting point is 00:54:29 So he's going to get her. I guess so he's going to get her yeah but you said that's not what the movie's called a guy came up to me after a screening and very confidently
Starting point is 00:54:42 was like I get what you're doing with the title to get her and I'm like what the fuck he is doing I just was like
Starting point is 00:54:47 yeah man you're really smart I think he is smart that's that's togathor that's togothor that's togothor so the
Starting point is 00:54:59 so the ancient god Togethor was just a bad shot. So you said that wasn't part of it either, but it is. That's Togathor right there. But it's a third act review. I didn't really want to play my cards. You noticed by the way, you noticed by the way
Starting point is 00:55:13 Hayes when you asked like what, you know, what they were doing as producers and he was going, well, they're very experienced. It's like, yeah, I didn't think they were fucking virgins, dog. Yes, believe me, I noticed that. We just said we think they're fucking. Believe me. Believe me. I saw you clock it.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I was looking at you on the screen file that away for a later like in a minute yeah yeah we'll double back to that pony tail ponytail so maybe he was together with a pony
Starting point is 00:55:52 what's that light is the light purple uh in the in the hallway yeah yeah there's sort of a pinky light there i was like imagining like looking at the movie on a timeline and was worried that too much of it took place on the house so i wanted for this big set piece like a kind of different color to sort of bathe it so it had a different field all the rest of the film and so we arrived in this kind of pinky sort of fleshy light
Starting point is 00:56:19 that uh kind of gave it more of a horror sort of a flash light jesus christ dude yeah it's a it's a horny movie Whiskey for the pain And the letters are getting squished up again Written and directed by Michael Franks So you seem to love people being in trouble and going crazy Yeah Yeah, you know, it's fun
Starting point is 00:56:57 It makes for compelling drama. It's a fun little movie. It's scary. You'll laugh. You'll cry. It'll change your life. Are they doing a construction project of some kind? She had like a sort of a hand saw at the end. Yeah, why do they just have that in the house? Is that established? Well, there is a very subtle setup where for some reason Dave brings it up in like the first act says like, what's this tool? Oh, well, we'll use that later. And then cleverly, it comes back in the third act. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Chekhov's, what kind of saw is it? Reciprocating saw, kind of a saber saw. Chekhov's reciprocating saber saw, kind of saber saw. I believe that is the exact word-for-word letterbox review that David Sims gave the film. Three stars. Now, let me guess. You're friends with him, too. No, no. Not anymore, apparently.
Starting point is 00:57:54 There was a photo of me from South by Southwest with Dave and Allison and Damon, that actor that you recognize John and somebody said oh I thought this was a photo of Dave and Allison with the blank check guys which by default I guess makes me
Starting point is 00:58:05 Dave vid well you know what it was really a photo of three stars hmm right oh man
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