Hollywood Handbook - Michael Shanks, Our Together Friend
Episode Date: September 23, 2025The Boys welcome noted Australian/director Michael Shanks on the show and subject him to a Teaser Freezer of his own movie, Together.GET A NEW SHIRTYPHSUS SHIRT HEREWatch the video of today�...�s episode at Patreon.com/HollywoodHandbook This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Hollywood Handbook via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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The filmmaker.
Movies.
Oh, the filmmaker is here.
I'm so sorry.
I called it a movie.
It's not a movie.
It's a film.
The filmmaker.
My film.
Fucking.
Fucking professor.
or fucking
science expert
something. It's a movie.
A filmmaker is a glorified
cat sitter.
Literally
words out of my mouth.
What is a filmmaker
actually doing?
Other than just being like
where's the cat?
They're wrangling, right?
They're wrangling. They're feeding and
sort of, yes, caring for,
you know giving little treats to
these cats
these mercurial yes
these creatures who are so curious
and get themselves into trouble sometimes
through their curiosity
and all the filmmaker is doing
is basically
well filming them as they go about
filming this yeah making them kiss
pushing their faces together
together
now the cats have to kiss
by the way
most cat sitters in a more traditional, you know, structure who were forcing the cats
to kiss one another would not be, you know, considered particularly good at their jobs.
Even the ones you can tell sometimes you have a cat sitter over.
Yep.
And they take a picture, you know, they like to take a picture to send you.
So you know, cats are alive.
Cats are comfy.
The cat's alive, yeah, yeah.
And these are, oh, now he was.
Just a second, Michael.
That was the time that he decided to come in.
Well, I didn't have too much cat content to.
I think there was a spot where it had been,
you were thinking it's been too long that I've gone without speaking.
I absolutely was.
And now I'm like, spot, that's the name of data's cat and Star Trek.
Is that anything?
And it's not.
And yet, even no.
Even knowing, and I agree it was too long, even knowing that when you came in, for me, not the moment because Hayes was getting to something really good about how the cat sitters take a picture.
They take a picture of the cat to show you like these are the same cats that were here before when you were here.
Same cats. Everything normal. Yep. But you can kind of tell sometimes that they were just kissing that they were their faces that just kind of look like they were just mooshed together a second ago.
And we have a picture of that too, but that's not the one they're sending.
Yeah.
I'd love to see the full camera roll.
What was cut?
What was left on the catting room floor?
What's so yummy.
And so Kevin,
make it that that's the first thing Michael says.
Because the time before,
and I don't want to.
beat this to death, right?
Like what would happen in one of your movies?
All this scary stuff.
The film man is filming them beating each other to death.
With Jay also,
it's basically something else that you wouldn't want the cats that are to do,
but they'll do it.
But they'll do it.
I don't want to beat to death,
but the first time that you came in,
I wish it had been something like this with the catting room floor.
Yeah.
I was talking to Mark Banana from Auntie Donna about doing this podcast.
I know no come on
we cannot keep doing this
fucking Australian
on the fucking show
has to let us know we know
Auntie Donna well we know Auntie Donna too
you actually don't have to be there to know them
and it's not that great
and anytime I'm like do you know those guys
do you know Auntie Donna to an Australian person
they're like it's a fucking country
I don't like we don't all know each other
but then it's like yeah you
do. Yeah, we do. You absolutely do. So, uh, so you're a mark guy, huh? I'm thinking,
I'm thinking of becoming a Mark guy myself. Yeah. Yeah, we've been primarily Broden gang. I'm
Zach Pack. Oh, oh, I've been, I've been Broden pilled for a while now. He's, he's, to me,
the one who I've seen the most, which maybe that's why I'm not. That's so interesting. But my
stories to say with why I'm Zach Pack.
Because I've seen Brod in the most.
So inaccessible.
Zach's so, he's so far removed.
I can't, I don't think I can get old of him.
And that actually does make him really appealing.
And this Broden, because I've been a Broden bud for a while.
I got to get away.
I got to get away from that.
Grody Brody, Brody, that's not good.
But now I'm meeting a Mark guy, you know.
Max is the direct guy.
I'm a Max guy.
I'm a Max guy.
I had never even.
considered that a mark man a mark i've forgotten there was a mark
mark in a series uh seven sorry sorry sure uh you know seven years ago uh so that's that's was
my way in was through mark that's how i kind of met those guys bitter context
so so you were talking to him about potentially doing the show and he had some words of
wisdom, I'm sure.
Yeah, he said,
nah, man,
you'll be good,
you're funny.
And I think we're learning
how polite Mark Bernard
maybe is.
Michael,
yeah,
shanks,
well,
this is your classic
self-deprecating,
you know,
dry wit.
Oh,
yes.
From the guy who came up
with catting room floor
a couple minutes ago,
a couple minutes too late,
but a couple minutes ago.
It's going to be my epitaph.
Schimble shanks.
Oh,
the railway.
Yeah.
He's like to say Skibble Shanks, yeah.
Shanks for the memories.
Shanks for the memories, and you know his movies, great.
Shank you very much.
You say that after screening.
Shank you very much for coming.
Oh, yeah, every single time.
To every person individually, I shake their hands.
We kiss.
I say shank you very much.
You a golfer?
I hope not.
I am not golfer.
Oh, I hope not.
I don't believe your ancestors were either.
at least not in any way
in any notable
positive way
shanking it
Michael shanks
is the director of
the film Together
in theaters
before are we saying that right
together yeah yeah
that's it not to get her
as some people might read it
Togathor
the noble beast
Togathor
wicked
haunting the mountains. Yes? This is
what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You've seen it. Yeah, you get it. I saw
it. Yeah, I was there.
Can we roll that clip? Kevin,
do you have that clip?
Can we roll that? Be seeing it?
Throw the clip up.
Go ahead.
I mean, it must be
you must be still be riding so
high.
from seeing your movie and having so much fun seeing.
I mean,
it must be your favorite movie,
yes?
It's certainly the movie I've watched the most now.
I sort of never want to see it again.
But every time that there's,
there was a Q&A screening last night here in Melbourne
and still kind of like sneaking in at some of the moments where,
you know,
it's going to get a little laugh.
Oh, that's the filmmaker.
That's the filmmaker.
That's the,
you know how you're like at the rest of you're like,
that's the chef?
Oh, yeah.
And everyone's like, oh, he's really famous.
that's the chef over there.
The worst thing is,
it's like being in the lobby
and people are going to see other movies
and me just like standing around
kind of feeling so thirsty.
That's fucked.
Like, oh, hey, man.
Hi.
That's fucked that they go see
another movie in front of you.
Yeah, it's no good.
What were they seeing?
Sounds like it must be pretty good though.
Must be something more seeing her.
They were doing like a Jaws 50th anniversary.
There's an Akira.
Oh, well,
I mean, like,
yeah, like just dog shit movie.
We begrudge them Jaws.
Michael
you've come on our show today
ready maybe
to look back on
the experience
which is done
it's over
yeah
you talk a little bit
about never wanting
to see the movie
forever
yeah no
you do at some point
we got to move on
something we say
on the podcast a lot
and it's unfortunate
truism
in this town
you're only as good
is your next film.
You know what I mean?
Your next,
your next one.
So,
so you do have to kind of say,
whatever I've done,
that's done,
did that.
Took your little victory lap,
you know,
as you were talking about nonstop.
But now we're at this point
where we can kind of have an honest appraisal.
I know you didn't want to see the movie again.
But of at least the teaser,
and whether it even like was from the movie like I don't even know you know like we we we do a lot a lot of
we do a lot of these things we get the teaser tweezers and we go to the teaser times once or twice
once or twice we've done this Michael once or twice we've looked at the teaser we have a little bit
experience here by oh yeah just a little bit not my first uh teased not my first time cleaning off
the teaser tweezers to go into the teaser freezer and this movie i'm excited to watch my
teaser today this movie stars dave franco and alison brie who did you agree on whether to be
friends after this is all over did you guys yeah was that still in flux i i thought we had agreed
but they may have had a different opinion.
We can feel it's sort of petering out, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
The group trap is not as lively as it was.
They're the goats. I got friends for life, baby.
I'll tell you what I saw.
Text in the GC.
Yeah, let's see the very, the most recent.
Most recent, uh, the scrolling.
It's four blue ones.
I'm scrolling back.
Why are you scrolling back?
Wednesday, 5.16 p.m.
Alison Brie.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, cute.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
And it really, it's, it, it all is on Miss Brie, isn't it?
I said, we're still friends right?
And she responded.
Yeah. And it all is on her to, to, to, to, to carry that.
It's at her discretion.
Hmm.
And also, you know, her name looks like all is on.
And it all is on her shoulders.
And it all is on her at the premiere because she got that shit on.
Hmm.
I mean, she really put that shit on for it.
And the two of them, they know, they're, their friends?
Their friends.
Tell me what was going on.
Well, yeah, they're married.
They've been married for a long time.
They've been together for over decades.
Unfortunately, Mike, unfortunately doesn't always mean your friends.
Oh, that's a grim insight.
My onset bit, this is me on set.
I'm growing up to people like, guys.
I think Dave and Allison are
fucking
that's my
unsaid bet
I'm the AD also
I should not
I'm not
maybe the last person
who should be doing that
yeah I've got to
have like
the most professional face
for the entirety
I'm like there
to keep this thing on rails
and I keep leaning over
during the take
to the sound guy
who's trying to make sure
he's going
my man
my man
I think
Alson Dave are fucking
I saw her
going to his trailer earlier
there's nothing
they could have done
but fucked in there
the two of them
goddamn movie
the two of them
I'll say this
promo
dogs
oh yeah
you got a couple
promo dogs on your hand
you don't deserve them
Michael
well you know hopefully i certainly don't but hopefully the film does uh it was you know
honestly inspiring because i had to go through the whole press thing i've never done that before
and uh they they helped me elevate my game watching these two pros did you go through the whole
press thing uh yeah did you didn't see or did they no yeah they went through the whole press thing
you were there for you were there for some of it but at some point they just kind of left you
behind it said they'd they'd come back for you if they could yeah well we did this thing uh i think
It was called Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen.
It's like a Bravo show.
And it's like, they were the guests and I was the barkeeper.
And they're like, you've got to be camera ready.
You've got to be like ready to go.
We could cut you at any time.
Sat there the whole time, never got thrown to.
It was not on camera.
No, no conversation at all.
No conversation.
I had zingers.
You seen how good I am interjecting and other people talking.
And I was like, oh, maybe now, maybe now.
If they gave you time, yeah.
Actually, Andy did introduce me at one point and he read the wrong teleprompter and called me
a totally different name.
Teleprompter.
Teleprompter? Is that what it is?
Cucats? I don't know.
I think we just say telepros.
You say, we say it different.
We say it different.
Tell me sure do. We sure do.
But those guys, they really put their whole ass into it.
Well, I at one point was like, and by the way,
really enjoyed the movie.
congratulations everyone seems to love this thing but i started to be like this can't just be about
the movie for them anymore something else was going on there i think they did hot ones three
times yes yeah you said your movie deserves this no movie deserves that much like
it just wasn't about the movie i don't they was like some kind of press king
that they were playing out with one another.
Yeah, a humiliation ritual.
Yeah.
And by the way, they said, I'm here for it.
Yeah, it was great.
Neon kind of suggests a little stuff that they should do.
They had this thing where they, like, had rats climb all over them.
What's so answering questions?
They got covered in rat piss and shit.
And, you know, they were down for the whole thing.
Like, real, real pros, love them.
When the plague comes back, we'll know who to blame.
your movie
it's
it's like
it's like honestly
there's two stars
of your movie
uh
the they
they actually were familiar
with another movie as well
the yes man
because they decided to say yes
to everything
well you said that
um
say press to everything
say yes to the press
yes to the press
27 presses
yeah
yeah yeah dude
yes dude yes
yep yeah at least
texting mock banana it's going well
just got 27
27 presses through Hayes
yeah cool thanks for sending that through
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I'm just thinking about
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they have a very
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but
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there's a and he's in a
it's a science fiction sort of space world
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implanted the end of his tail it's like our
credit card chip
He brushes that over the...
I mean, is this a cool idea to you?
But the currency, sure.
Yeah, obviously, like, he could still...
He can use his tail.
He could use a chip in his tail.
But the currency he would use would be rocket money.
The money is...
Yeah, the money's rocket money.
It'd be rocket money.
He's rocket money.
No, no, no, no, no, obviously.
He uses rocket money, which shoots out of his tail.
It's a personal finance app that helps find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions.
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I don't want to use any of the brand names.
It would probably be something else crazy.
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ours
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our names for streaming platforms
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so maybe theirs would be more normal words
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rocket they'd be called like milk or something
something normal yeah
the streaming platform
there would probably be called milk, but they think
milk is crazy. Salt.
Salt.
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He's going on adventures for a long time.
And so he's...
Salt's a bad example. Can I try a guess?
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Hollywood Handbook.
But yeah, it was interesting to us the idea that we have done so many of unfreezing the teasers,
you know, asking these questions among ourselves, speculating on what could be happening in the movie,
but we've never really had someone directly involved with the film,
let alone the filmmaker here to actually address like what's happening for us when we watch these things
and be able to say, like, that was intentional.
oh, you're picking up on something, you know,
oh, I didn't even know this about my own film,
what you've discovered.
But yes, of course, subconsciously,
that must have been in there, you know.
So it would be nice to have one of the major creative forces
behind the film other than ourselves,
since you seem committed to not saying it for some reason.
You did listen to this podcast the entire time you edited the movie.
movie. The movie is actually made in the editing bay.
Yeah, it's, it's kind of like there's that Metallica whiskey that they brew where they put
the barrels next to speakers playing Metallica all day long.
Like whilst I was, yeah, black it, of course, yeah.
Whilst I was doing the visual effects, I was listening to this podcast quite a lot.
So I feel like it's infused, yeah.
That's the last thing, Kevin ever says.
And can you taste it?
It was all leading to this.
Can you taste the metal?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I had blackened cigars at the wedding.
Oh, wow.
Have you seen that video of Hetfield promoting those cigars?
He's like, yeah, you know, I'd just like to get through, smoke these with my buds in a room full of smoke, a room full of truth.
That does sound like that.
Very cool.
It's wearing a black cowboy hat, oh, it rocks.
The, and so we were, you were.
channeling our inspiration
through your fingers
what you really
you find out what the movie is in there
because you're writing
and you don't know
what you're actually going to get
the day you shoot
you shoot and you don't know
actually what you got
but you see watch it
and it's a load of crap
it is and it is
we didn't get it is Bay
but your films it's
it's it's never as good as the
dailies
and it's never as bad
as the first cut
right
the truth and so and so the the first cut obviously is unwatchable you don't you know you can't use
it and you got to go well what is the movie can i find it in in the editing b a e bay and and so you
sit down in there and in your case you go i don't really need to hear the movie or want to
i need to hear something that's actually good yeah and then i'll just kind of be able to feel
I'll accidentally do something good while the other good thing is happening.
Mm-hmm.
You know what I mean?
Of course.
I mean, it was more in the visual effects kind of element of the film once the film
by being cut.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that was a big part of the movie?
It's a big part of the movie.
It's not an important aspect of the movie at all, was it?
Yeah.
No.
The movie about two people hugging.
That sounds interesting.
Normal hugs, right?
I guess we should just throw out all the visual effects then.
It's all normal hugs.
hugs. Why not? Nothing strange about the hugs in the movie. No. There's some of a pretty
involved hugs. It's pretty unusual, right? And that's the visual effects telling us that.
Yeah, the characters say it. And the characters say it as well. Yeah. Look at me expanding
on that. This hug. I'd love to launch. I'd love to launch in
to the teaser if we could let's do it with everyone's permission no that can't be right nine
percent on rotten tomatoes it says nine percent rotten tomatoes this and so you fucked this one
this this thumbnail is fucked now what we're gonna what we're gonna what we're gonna see right is that
this number goes up i i really hope so okay oh let's watch and let's watch and see if it goes off it goes
down from nine
wow
100% on
Rotten Tomatoes wow
I guess when I'm creating
something I kind of want to challenge
people
I do think
well and you know from the show
you listen to it that
art is sort of meant to provoke
and oftentimes to alienate
and infuriate
I guess if some
people aren't into my stuff I kind of wear that as a badge of honor yeah this means the bad people
and the good people liked it well I guess I'm having to you know what I mean we're now when I'm down to
90 percent so you know we've maybe equalized a little bit I hope it's the right 90 percent
and then I'm I subtracting the nine from that I don't know how we started at nine what was the nine
we started with I believe it was the beginning of a count up sort of graphic animation right
Did it start with zero?
I think it started with nine.
Right.
So I guess I'm going like,
that'd be exhausting.
What about one?
Can I tuck you into one?
I mean,
Sean is right that like the implication of
100% on Rotten Tomatoes is that
Glein Maxwell likes the movie.
is digging on the movie
everyone likes it
including and possibly especially
Glenn Maxwell
I thought you said Glenn Maxwell
who's an Australian cricketing legend
but hopefully he would like the film
Glenn Maxwell might want to move off
that territory somehow
he may want to start going by
Gmax or something
Glenard or something
even
does yeah
but Galais Maxwell
obviously this is
according to this
she tells everyone she meets
I have a new favorite movie
which is like
you know
I guess that's
if it's what you set out to do
okay mission accomplished
bought a ticket that's money in my pocket
so
would she have bought a ticket
maybe she was given one
in exchange for a favorable testimony
but that's no money in your pocket i suppose the u.s government bought the tickets the letters
were moving together the letters and together were becoming together themselves the letters
so talk about this i bet that was your idea well you know they're getting all squished
it seemed like an obvious but sort of unmissable a piece of kinetic typography to have the sort of
premise of the film with things coming together, merging, becoming one,
be expressed within the title of the film itself.
Just kind of seemed like it like-
Squishing and squishing, yeah.
It's a movie about squishing.
So they're all married to each other, all the letters?
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
And they're all boys or all girls?
An alphabetical poly-quil.
Letters are different or, yeah.
my bit in the sort of graphics room
as there's stuff like this
I think the G and the O are fucking
The G and the O
The G and the O
Yeah
What happens next
Whose house is this?
Stop it.
Within the world of the film, it is the character's house, but in real life, it is a house in the suburb of Upway and the Dandenongs in Victoria.
It was sort of the only location that would possibly work for this.
And I think the homeowners are very mad at us because we broke some tiles or something like that.
Is this movie at night?
Sometimes, although I think we shot this during the day and we've, we've done.
blacked out the windows with movie magic.
And so that's why there's...
That's why they're...
Victorian families are mad.
The fucking Dandenog folks
are gonna be fucking livid, dude.
Doing magic on the house.
It looks like night.
You do not want to piss off
the Dandenog.
But that does explain why
their beds are next to them, but they're
standing up.
Because it's daytime.
Michael, you know.
That's the towel.
You know what a traditional, uh,
a festive holiday time drink is here?
Some dandy nog.
A little dandy nog.
Care for some dandy nog, Victoria?
Just say Australia next time, please.
Just say it's in Australia.
Upway.
Upway.
Oh, up your way.
yeah well no she goes you cares for some dandy nog
victoria upway
as she takes this
just
australia is mine
he said I love you
she said okay
neither of them said good night because
as you said they this was daytime
yeah
another tell
is it hard sometimes with actors
to get them to say
good night during the daytime
I mean obviously it was
you couldn't make them do it
we just did not get there
are there techniques
because this is your first
you know feature film right
so are there techniques at all
that you picked up
like let's say on the next movie
you want it
you want it to feel like it's nighttime
like is there anything
you've learned through the process
is this kind of what we try to do
on the show is like
you know
peek behind the curtain here
and say like
this is this is you know
this is the stuff that I wish I had known
at the time, right?
Yeah, it can be tough, particularly when
the actors themselves, as you say,
they can present sort of a
united front and
you try and get them where they
need to go, but certainly. Yeah, exactly.
Kind of what the movie is about, they
form a united front.
Yeah.
And side and back.
But you, but you know,
it is interesting because now I'm picturing
it that you would go, hey, would you
mind trying one? Like, that was
so good. Oh, I love that.
Oh, that was so good. Chills. Perfect.
We have it just for fun.
Let's see
what, let's see how it feels. Could this
be crazy if we
do one where we say
good night?
So people know that we're going to bed,
you know? And then, and then
she'll go, it's daytime. And then he'll go,
yeah, it's daytime.
but that was so good though that was so good when you forgot to say that you were supposed to say
that was a ad that was such a good choice just for safety just for safety it's one more time yeah
yeah yeah it was such a good choice when you did it wrong in the moment to just the presence of mind
to excise good night which let us know sort of where and when we were it was truly moving
This is why you work with people you're a fan of.
I wonder if we get one scripted.
This is what we'll use,
but I wonder if we do it just in the edit
so we can actually have a sort of compare and contrast thing there
where we see how much better this is
as a celebration of you and your choice to do it wrong.
what's going on
there from the picture
we saw a picture
there from the picture
yeah yeah on their
Facebook post
this is a common
but
always effective device
at the beginning of a movie
to have a guy who
comes in the movie and says
so what's up with
everybody
so what's
everybody's kind of a whole deal.
Well, and I'll be honest, when I'm watching the movie, I want to know that.
Yeah.
So that character in a way is me.
Mm-hmm.
That's me.
And when you look at the screen, it becomes very clear that it is me.
How do I know this guy, Michael?
Damon Harriman.
He's been in a lot of stuff, Mr. In Between, which is an Australian series, but he was
Charles Manson in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
And he was Charles Manson in.
mind hunter in the same year
that's good sort of a Hal Holbrook
Mark Twain thing
you need
Charlie this is your guy
well yeah like when we
when we cast him he was like
so keen he had the scheduling didn't really work
but he like moves heaven and earth to make it work
he was just like mate I just get to play like a normal guy
in this I'm always playing a fucking
serial killer he was
he was so keen he was so keen he was
so keen he was keen as mustard yeah that he was so good yeah he was drenched yeah we
told him off and he was like oh i'm so excited to do this i just get to play a nice guy sitting down
in a chair with a shirt love it since the move tim and i haven't been on the same page
well we just saw them on the same page the same facebook page you love each other
we literally just saw them on the same complacent
stop this
did you write this song
and did you write this shirt
did you write this shirt
no our costume department found this shirt
um i i i i it's a sweatshirt and then who wrote on it
i don't know i'll be honest i never really liked the stop that much
but here it is
guys thank you so much great choice to have a shirt to have a shirt that is a book in my movie
hey mike well you know complacency can sometimes simply be so happy they can't sing
like we said and it's sticky sticky so stop it
Now, I've seen the movie.
What was that?
And I haven't seen it yet.
I wanted to go in cold to this experience.
But I got to know.
What was that?
Well, I mean, within the world of the film,
it's this kind of infection that Dave's character,
Tim, catches first, that kind of,
stuff to change his, makes him, you know, kind of really imprint upon his part of it.
And in reality, what we did was- Answer Kevin's question first.
What was that? That was called a human kiss?
And now, and now Hayes and I were asking about the sort of end of it.
Oh, right. Yeah, when it got stuck together. That was just some glue. The makeup team found this
kind of glue that would stick, but not rip. And yeah, we got some good takes out of that.
So he's the one who's sticky?
He begins sticky, and then at a certain point, she, he passes.
And is it a mystery of like the audience has to figure out which one is so sticky?
Who's sticky?
Oh, that, oh, I know it's a little late for this.
The whole thing, just billboards everywhere.
Who's sticky?
Who's sticky?
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Who is sticky stinicky?
Yeah.
Who's sticky?
I know how I figured out.
I don't think we need stincky.
You take him to the beach,
you figure it out pretty quick.
Take them both to the beach.
Oh, yeah.
So smart.
Take a little sand on them.
Ha ha.
This is for anyone, obviously,
you know, elements of this at least are fictional or,
um,
well it's science fictional really which is such an opportunity for allegory which is running
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that'll get that i mean one yeah one thing that people were saying when we were kind of shopping this
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That's what people get saying.
And little did they know.
No kidding.
It's not just a sticky premise.
It's a sticky couple who's sticking together.
Yeah.
It's like a stuck on you situation.
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You know, this could be the beginning.
That was a tendon.
Roll over that you're on my hair.
Of something wonderful.
Tim.
What was that?
We spend our...
Stop that.
Was he...
Okay.
I think I know what happened.
She rolls over.
He's lying in bed.
And she's like, Tim?
And she thought he was sleeping.
And that freaked her out because she forgot it's actually supposed to be night time in the movie.
yeah yeah something like that um yeah it's a spooky scene set in the night again shot during the day
we got to use this cool prosthetic of dave though that we used for that scene that i have on on my wall
kind of over there which is you know a really cool thing to have in my house
great shot that's the property of the movie wow what a great director i'm really yeah yeah look
at this got an incredible shot over here wow the composition
The influence by the Barnes collection, no doubt.
Hopefully it's the effects.
So, yeah, throw on a, throw on a, throw on the latest episode with Michael Shanks.
Yeah, I think I'll be skipping that one.
What, uh, so can I ask something that I don't know if anyone has probably tackled yet?
Are you, Tim?
Hmm.
Is Tim you?
And that's why you have the mask?
The mosque?
Michael, are you, Tim?
Well, I mean, the, sorry, the, the perspective, whatever you call it.
Yeah, the, the artificial face.
I'm so sorry, my friend called it a mask.
Yeah, like, well, the Tim Carrier is very much like a bit of a self-insert,
like a sort of a self-deprecating self-insert of like a guy who's like an embarrassed kind of
failed musician who should kind of
give it up now that he's entering his
sort of mid-30s.
I can't hope to notice the three guitars on your wall.
Oh, go ahead.
When I make movies, I cast a guy
who is like really good body.
Yeah.
Like an insanely good body and be like, that's kind of me
in the movie.
Yeah. Yeah.
Jesus Christ, you sniffed it out. That's me.
Yeah.
How'd you figure that one out?
Literally writing in shower scenes for Dave to show
off his buddy, be like, yeah, that's what I
shower like. Yeah, that's kind of me.
Must be all the three guitar
playing that, uh, got it
got those
muscles so rippling.
Lives
in search of the other half.
If you think you found that.
He's in the shower. He went to sleep
because he forgot his daytime now.
And then
so,
pause it because he smashed
into the shower wall. Go ahead.
He's smashing the shower. She turns right in her car
and then he smashes into the
side of the shower because the shower
is in the car.
The showers inside the car.
So this was actually, visually I could not
really figure out how you did this. And I guess
it's the VFX you were describing.
But basically, for people who can watch
along the trailer with us, I'm realizing too
that usually Kevin described.
the trailer badly as a big part of these teaser but the the car looks like a normal car
but inside the trunk is a tall stand-up shower with tile and when it turns you can be moving
all this way and that and then Dave I guess was so sticky that he had to take a shower
had to take a shower
in the trunk of the car.
Did you ever explain why the house shower
was not working?
The house shower?
Oh, because it's in the car.
Right.
I felt that well, you know, that's not really.
Thank you.
Thank you for doing the work.
Thank you so much
for doing the work yourself.
What's really happening is
it's kind of like he's got this imprint on him
of her and so she's driving outside of the house
it's like he's sort of the
the point of a compass pointing towards
her north so the further she gets
he's kind of pointing in her direction
from the car
yeah
listen to me
go back what was on the TV
what was on the TV
just in case I want to watch
something else during this
um that's
It's like, it's a wedding video that was not shot in the Dandenongs.
That was somewhere else in rural Victoria, but I can't remember where.
Can we see, so there's a lot of quotes about how good the movie is.
Yeah.
We should do that actually during our podcast like Michael does.
Just unashamedly put someone else liking the show during it.
Just stop.
the show down and just especially on the video that it should just cut to black like every
couple minutes and just have some of the frankly embarrassing praise that we've received over the
years whether it be best non-human guest award at the end of the year from vulture for my dog
or that's the main one that comes to mind but i guess to michael we should be embarrassed because
Galeen Maxwell hates our show.
Right.
She specifically has asked not to have it played.
She has not a kind word to say about it.
But I am curious about this one.
Can you advance a little bit, Kevin?
I have a note on this one quote here to the quote.
Listen to me.
It says, Alice and Bree and Dave Franco go absolutely wild.
And I think it should say
Alice and Bree and Dave
Franco go absolutely wild
on each other's
heinies
and you can close the quote
and then just put
on each other's hynees at the ed
that's actually cool
that it's a new screen
and it just says
on each other's hynees
it's kind of implied
yeah i mean that's what i do like about it is that i sort of assuming that it's unfinished
like there must be more must be say what they're going absolutely wild on and if it's not each
other's heinous we're talking about two different movies because that's what i saw
we've got to get out of you stop it they're not talking about the movie right
they're talking about the the set
by the way
I'm all for like finding pieces
you know and just like using it like you said
basically you built it all in the edit
and then you didn't know what the movie was
at all when you were filming it
but
if you sort of were recording them
without their knowledge
saying we've got to get out of here
about their involvement
with the film
it feels a little disingenuous
no they were happy to be there um honestly they you know they produced the film they uh yeah it was
great but what did that mean in practice we got to get out of here no the like the producing
producing oh it was sincerely it was awesome you know they've so experienced that made so many
films both indie and studio before this was my first film they kind of felt like this shield protecting
me movie's playing sorry uh
Sorry, it's going.
Sorry, the movie's going, Michael.
Yeah.
Where's he going?
Where's that man going?
Yeah.
He's screwed along the driveway.
Someone who's seen it, they don't say, but they don't say.
I don't think Michael knows.
I certainly don't know.
I saw the movie.
He's going towards her as sort of what's happening in that scene.
They're being literally like magnetic.
Why is he not in the shower?
So he's going to get her.
I guess so
he's going to get her
yeah but you said that's not
what the movie's called
a guy came up to me
after a screening
and very confidently
was like
I get what you're doing
with the title
to get her
and I'm like
what the fuck
he is doing
I just was like
yeah man
you're really smart
I think he is smart
that's
that's togathor
that's togothor
that's togothor
so the
so the ancient
god
Togethor was just a bad shot.
So you said that wasn't part of it either, but it
is. That's Togathor right
there. But it's a third act review. I didn't really
want to play my cards. You noticed
by the way, you noticed by the way
Hayes when you asked like what, you know,
what they were doing as producers and he was
going, well, they're very experienced.
It's like, yeah,
I didn't think they were fucking virgins, dog.
Yes, believe me, I noticed that. We just said
we think they're fucking. Believe me.
Believe me. I saw you clock it.
I was looking at you on the screen
file that away for a later
like in a minute
yeah yeah
we'll double back to that
pony tail
ponytail so maybe
he was together with a pony
what's that
light
is the light purple
uh
in the in the hallway yeah yeah there's sort of a pinky light there i was like imagining like
looking at the movie on a timeline and was worried that too much of it took place on the house so
i wanted for this big set piece like a kind of different color to sort of bathe it so it had a
different field all the rest of the film and so we arrived in this kind of pinky sort of fleshy light
that uh kind of gave it more of a horror sort of a flash light
jesus christ dude yeah it's a it's a horny movie
Whiskey for the pain
And the letters are getting squished up again
Written and directed by Michael Franks
So you seem to love people being in trouble and going crazy
Yeah
Yeah, you know, it's fun
It makes for compelling
drama. It's a fun little movie. It's scary. You'll laugh. You'll cry. It'll change your life.
Are they doing a construction project of some kind? She had like a sort of a hand saw at the end.
Yeah, why do they just have that in the house? Is that established?
Well, there is a very subtle setup where for some reason Dave brings it up in like the first act
says like, what's this tool? Oh, well, we'll use that later. And then cleverly, it comes back in the
third act.
Mm-hmm.
Chekhov's, what kind of saw is it?
Reciprocating saw, kind of a saber saw.
Chekhov's reciprocating saber saw, kind of saber saw.
I believe that is the exact word-for-word letterbox review that David Sims gave the film.
Three stars.
Now, let me guess. You're friends with him, too.
No, no.
Not anymore, apparently.
There was a photo of me from South by Southwest with Dave and Allison and Damon, that actor that
you recognize John
and somebody said
oh I thought this was a photo
of Dave and Allison
with the blank check guys
which by default
I guess makes me
Dave
vid
well you know what
it was really a photo of
three stars
hmm
right
oh man
this was a fucking nightmare
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