Hollywood Handbook - Naomi Fry, Our Close Friend

Episode Date: February 14, 2023

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this is a head gum podcast i'm sorry excuse me oh my god i just never ever do that i had a crazy crazy busy day i'm so tired i had to make my super bowl pick today i am also a little bit sleepy. And I wonder if it's because I had to make my Super Bowl pick. And you know me. When it comes to the big game, I don't take it so lightly.

Whether it's snacks, commercials, or what happens on the field, or the incredible halftime show, this time brought to us for the first time by Apple Music. I just cannot get enough. Who did you end up being your pick? I picked Drake. He stays winning. He stays on top.

Who'd you pick? I do not believe this game will be completed. if drake has anything to say about it you think he's gonna do four or five songs okay let's go home i don't have a specific reason why i don't think it's gonna be completed but i believe it will be most people think oh the game's not gonna be completed something really bad must be going to happen. No. I actually think something so good will happen. Having too much fun. Too much fun at the concert.

That we will decide. Hey, guys, do we really care about this silly game? I think it's going to be a world event, and it might have to do with Drake. Maybe Drake invents something so revolutionary for example do you think if it was announced during the game that someone say drake had invented food that is goes on forever and so it the entire infinite food in planet of the united states and everywhere else and everyone can eat eat one potatoes one potatoes food and it would and it would be food also of course that tastes fine it tastes just yes it's okay it's not gonna be amazing it's it goes on forever it's like no it's not gonna have the most like unique depth of flavor which by the way that would be bad because that's you know then

you're ruling people out what it tastes is it tastes fine i think drake could maybe do that during the game and do you think they would maybe do that during the game. And do you think they would stop the big game? Nomi, do you think they would stop the big game if someone... No, but would they stop the big game if someone invented a food that goes on forever? I think so. I actually heard

on the radio I was driving back from the city. Drake's old stomping grounds, the radio. Yeah, I heard that at the end of her halftime show, Rihanna is going to drop an amazing announcement. So now I'm thinking it's probably the food thing. The food. And it's not even, you won't have to say it's like endless food it's just gonna be

what kind of music is this what kind of music is this she says hey end of the show hey what kind of music was this again someone say apple music she an apple materializes apple and growing and she takes a big bite out huge bite you see the huge bite come out chew it up a chump she turns the camera it's the apple is complete again and it's right and and it will be going on forever and drake say and drake says do that again do that again hang on stop this is serious right now Riri do that again

so he still calls her Riri I don't know is he not supposed to I don't know he's not supposed to do that anymore they have a complicated history he's no longer supposed to be doing that she's a married woman he is married to a married woman yeah married to a married woman yeah i don't know if that would be

welcome if you know what i'm saying i don't but that's what makes our dynamic work doesn't it know me it really does, yeah. If we just got on here and we just agreed about everything, there's no show. I mean, that's the beauty of America. It's about opinions. Wait, just before we move on, while we're on this, I'm so sorry. Before we move on, I would like to declare my intention right now it is midnight on february 10th 2023 in 2033 hollywood handbook will do the super bowl halftime show and i'm gonna be the special guest

a promise i am open to it i know here's a lot of things would have to happen between now and then maybe more than would need to happen for us to be in many ways no i can promise this in many ways you will be the special guest because we will be memorializing you wow one of our songs we will be primarily known for musical performance at that time so you'll be performing candle in the wind but for me um we're probably gonna do the fast seven song that that could work too it's been a long pod without you my friend but i'll tell you all about it when i see i'm not gonna sing that part no and i emerged from the casket to like sing that beat y'all have been gone for so long at that point i mean i don't think i don't think there'll be any expectation that a casket

I don't think there would be any expectation that a casket would be above ground at that time. Wait, when am I supposed to die? Is it like, say, in the... Yeah, 2027. 2027. So it'll be six years prior to us doing the halftime show at the Super Bowl. No, we will sing, but we're not going to... You're an educated adult.

I would say so, yeah. You went to fine schooling. Yeah. I'll be there. Yeah. I mean, I didn't go to Harvard. But there's something you can't teach, isn't there? Nobody goes to Harvard.

You may matriculate there. Yeah, I can teach what happens after we all die that's true if that's what i'm actually referring to self-respect no one can teach self-respect you can't learn it there's no tuition there's no room and board that you can pay absolutely no respect no professor can give you the CliffsNotes for self-respect. No. Speaking of self-respect, I want to talk about agreeing to go on a podcast at 11.30 p.m. Oh, well, but we've talked about this.

It's giving desperate, as they say nowadays. It's giving addicted to rejection it's giving the boys ask i'm there even though they don't answer my texts otherwise it's like a classic situation it's giving pathetic it's giving it's giving imbecile it's giving what the fuck am i doing it's giving me texting like seven different people and saying like i can't believe i agreed to do this and yet it's so classic that i agreed to do this anyone we would know uh yeah um let's see john early friend of the pod oh and he wasn't like i'll'll jump in too. I want to do it too, yeah. Maybe me instead. No, the first question I asked Chef Kevin when he reached out a mere 24 hours ago to ask me if I would guest on the pod was how many people said no

before he reached out to this gambit of like doing the show at fucking west coast people by the way how many west coast people yeah because 8 30 is like before we agreed to even try someone on the east coast exactly where we knew that like even if we succeed, we fail. Right. Right. Like anyone we can get to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Coast. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. We probably shouldn't have. Right. Because like, why? What's wrong with her that she's like, and so I'll do it. The thinking is, if she says yes, let's try and get her by the end of this thing where the next time someone asks her to be on a podcast at 11 30 p.m she will have the tools to say not even no not even no ready to say honk shoe honk

shoe honk honk shoe okay can you say more about that i'll walk you through some of our conversation because you said yes and he said oh my god we can't and then in the same moment he said we have to must i said we must We must. I would think about this. Were I in your shoes, I would think about this as an opportunity. It's not an opportunity. It's an obligation. Right. That we have.

Yeah. To our fellow human being. To teach her the honkshoe. The honkshoe or the, as it's sometimes known the snork me me me me me okay okay i'm ready to hear more what sound do you make when you go to sleep what sound do you make when you with it would require you to maybe 11 hours later respond to a text with i'm squeak you know it's interesting that you asked me this because i was just watching the show milf manor with my daughter in the most recent episode there was a thing not for that what that's not what that show is for i know um okay nevertheless this is what happened you know

i do know and uh one of the milfs fell asleep in one of like the young guys beds and she snored really loudly the show for people who don't know cougars are zapping hunks left and right the hunks came to get zapped pnv okay but you're telling me none of these hunks got zapped not yet we're still waiting have to be pnv to get yourself zapped when you're a hunk like these guys when you're that hunky yes you could yeah you could get zapped in all kinds of ways but go ahead so she fell asleep in the bed she fell asleep in the bed up until then she was you know she's the most uh let's say outgoing milf in the house and she's face down and she's kind of like splayed out like a starfish she She's splayed out like a goddamn starfish.

Okay. And her sort of face is up against the pillow and she's snoring like a so-called trucker. Okay. Okay. Truckers famously, they have to stay awake. They stay awake so much. It's the one profession. when they do fall asleep all the speed they take they have to be extra loud that might be the sound of the truck's engine

you're hearing that it might be the idling of the big rig so when that when that machine is going by that's not that's not the sound of the trucker when a big truck is next to you on the highway and you go wait this guy's snoring so loud this is dangerous that's actually they're just driving and the truck makes that sound well this is this is you know the whole premise now of this story is gone belly up and then what did one false move right yeah What did the young stud do? So the stud was like, oh my God, Kelly is snoring really loud. And just like that, his boner went flippity flop. Oh, wow. The snoring made the boner go away.

Yeah. And the hunk went unzapped. He went unzapped. When I discuss MILF Manor, just so the audience knows, I am spelling MILF with a Y. M-Y-L-F. This is a mom you'd like to fornicate. I personally do not want that. But you would like it.

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Can you please talk about your tendency towards obsession? And if we're going, if we're really reaching back here and staying on the self-respect journey yeah if there's a way to pinpoint the moment where we've lost it and if we could just like go if we retrace our steps i'm wondering if we could pick it back up along this journey and bring it back maybe somewhere on the present on the path we just we find naomi know me know me we find know me i'd like to we and we dust her off say your name again say your name one more time no i'd like to i'd like to i can i i just want to ask a clarifying question are we talking about the journey towards self-respect specifically as it pertains to my relationship with you two

or in life because those are two i'd like to keep me out of it but wholly different things if my name comes up at like it at all this this like personal history we got real problems and I'm done that's a wrap chief that's a wrap from you chief self respect well you know

give me a year let's go to a year say a year first let's get in the time machine chef Kevin fire it up Give me a year. Let's go to a year. Say a year first. Let's get in the time machine. Chef Kevin, fire it up. Ted, let's get this flux capacitor going. I'm trying to think what would be like a good... Then let's do first memory.

First memory. Of lack of self-respect? No no just the first memory that you have and we'll see if anything and we'll see if you had self-respect in that moment and if we have to reach back even farther you know what i mean like if you're guessing a number you can go like the low end and the middle and we'll just like we'll find it so first memory okay first memory okay first horrible memory where i'm like i don't know probably four year year i don't want a woman never reveals her age okay well you didn't have to say your age you did that no you said you were four you said you were four because it pertains to the story, as you'll soon hear. Okay?

I better be soon. We know she's at least four, if not more. Very differently if I'm four or if I'm 22. Okay? Okay. There I was at my grandparent's house. I don't know about you. I was for some reason called downstairs.

I was not wearing a shirt. What happened? Something downstairs? It was like a building, right? It was a building with maybe like six apartments. And I don't know if my sister called me downstairs or something. Anyway, I was a mere lass. It was summer. I was wearing mere lass. It was summer.

I was wearing no shirt. I was four years old. So just overalls? And I, yeah, it was one of those like sassy, like overalls, nothing on underneath moments. Okay. And I went downstairs and the neighbor's kids made fun of me for not wearing a shirt they were older they were like i don't know seven or eight and i remember they're in tux and tails they were fully kitted out ready for the gala. No. Spurs, like cowboy hat.

Oh, wow. Okay. The whole thing. The whole thing. Yeah. This was in Nevada in 1892. Okay. So Western snaps and a fringe leather jacket.

And they made fun of child. They made fun of me. And they said what? They said like, you're nakey. I don't know what they said. They said something like that. They made fun of me for not wearing a shirt. And I remember sort of folding my arms in front of my chest.

And, you know, hiding hiding the goods so to speak and as as demented as this story is it does sound as if you did have self-respect yes no no but i'll tell you what though i'll tell you what i did not call them out i remained silent i internalized know me know me know me what would you like to say to them today let's let's talk to them now the seven and eight year old buckaroos yes you are loping downstairs i'm loping downstairs. You know, innocent. Breeze on your belly. Yeah, on my belly. Pure innocence. Imagine pure innocence.

And it's summer, no less. Sunny skies, not a cloud. And I'm loping. Maybe humming a jaunty tune. Yeah, and then I come down and then my world just shattered within moments so you're taking big steps downstairs like our crumbs mr natural exactly and i sort of look like our crumbs mr natural one thing i forgot to mention is that i have an enormous beard okay but that's not enough to function as a shirt.

Not at all. No. No. And I noticed the impact of this moment is such that you are, and we're not recording this for video, right, Kevin? So I do have to describe what's. Okay. So Nomi is continuing to wear a shirt even to this day. Yeah.

To this day, no one has ever seen me without a shirt on. She's been shirt pilled. Such has been the impact. And can we speak? Can we address them directly? In this moment? Can we talk to? Can we tell them?

Their names? I don't know their names. They were like random neighbor kids. It wasn't my house. It was my grandparents' house. They moved from there like subsequently. I've never met a random kid, actually. They're so random.

That's interesting that you've met a random kid. Yeah. Because to me, no child is random. Except Honey Boo Boo. No, she's definitely not random. Cartman, I guess. I said except Honey Boo Boo and Cartman. They actually could be extremely random. So they are random. Cartman, I guess. I said except Honey Boo Boo and Cartman. They actually could be

extremely random. So they are random. Because I would actually think Honey Boo Boo is very intentional. Very intentional. Okay, so let's speak to them. Well, just for the listeners, just for the listeners since they can't picture what a random kid is, why don't you

speak to Cartman and Honey Boo Boo right now? And why don't you speak to cartman and honey booboo right now and why don't you why don't you tell them nomi what you wish you'd said that day and we'll see if we can we can reclaim our power a little bit here who's this oh this is gingy this is my cat one of my cats oh she created weeds if that's genji but help to speak directly to genji i i don't know genji actually interestingly they're only one way to find out because genji reminds me i often say that genji reminds me of my late grandfather the same grandfather who whose house i was at when this all went down wow and your grandfather has come now to hear the story and to see you he's he's really proud he's really proud of your childhood yeah yeah

as we probe the situation here it seems like it's your grandfather's house had he not laid out suggested clothing for you to wear i wasn't't like naked all day and all night. My parents were there. We were visiting. I was probably, I don't know. He's the host. Kind of nice to lay out. Right, right.

Suggest a wardrobe for your guest. Just I have decent manners. I don't know if I, I don't have milf manners. I have decent manners. I don't know if I... Right, right. I don't have milf manners. I have real manners. And what I do is I lay out a wardrobe for each guest. What I'd like to see them in, what I think they'll be most comfortable in, what the neighborhood children will be least likely to insult them in so you may want to talk to jingy and say hey grandpa hey papa you let me down and i wish you'd put out some little sailor what's gingy going to town on over there okay so so gingy had this um episode had the video option

for your listeners they would see gingy's head bobbing just up and down just out of frame into should we say that gingy is a cat do have we said have we established gingy is a cat so i i lowered my screen a little bit my computer screen so you can see the gingy is in fact standing at his bowl that has giving garfield it's really good it's deep yeah it's really giving Garfield. He is eating. That's his dry food. He gets wet food twice a day. And yeah, look, he's very. Oh, did my recorder catch that meow?

Kevin will have to tell us later. Yeah. Has Jinji been to the vet? Oh, are you talking about his balls? Well, no, I was just going to say, it seems like Gingy's got that dog in him. And that's something that, of course, that can either be performed by the vet

or extracted if need be. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so either way, it's relevant whether or not Gingy's been to the vet. Gingy's been to the vet, you know, if they were able to. I mean, Gingy has been to the vet. And did they locate that dog in him?

They have as of yet been unable to, quote unquote, locate that dog in him. But we're hopeful that that might happen thoughts and prayers thoughts and prayers gingy can we speak to the little neighbor kids please i just we and and yeah the reluctance one just say something to them the fear in your eyes and it lets me know how important it is to do it that you can unable it's just a not such a follow-up thing okay i know well for you it's for you it's nothing hayes for me it's a whole lot of shame wrapped up in that you know supposedly simple story there's so much history there so much hey you boys hey boys okay okay here i go here go okay hey boys hey know me um oh wow oh oh that's good um i mean we didn't know each other's names so i don't know if that's

like realistic per se but they knew your name car but it's Cartman. Yeah, it's Cartman. And you were doing all kinds of weird stuff like this. Hey, boys, stop laughing. Everybody has boobs. I think. Okay. All right. Well, I think we can. It's not.

I think we can. You get killed in the cross. Know me. It's just they're going to killed in the cross, Nomi. They're going to rip you apart on the stand. You don't want to open with that. Well, so maybe... Okay, so Sean, excuse me. What you're saying here that in fact,

I was right to stay silent, right? And to put, get that shame... I think there must be something between... Got to be a third option here. Saying everybody has boobs, saying nothing at all there's nothing there's nothing in between those are the two options but you know what you might be right but it was hard for me to find my words it was hard for me to speak out you know growing up isn't easy and i have been yes it is it almost happens in spite of you it's insanely easy yeah literally everyone has done it yeah you you can't not do it right right okay this is giving

me a whole new perspective on things you want to share what it is that just that it's easy to grow up and it's also easy to speak out and i think i've learned you know the lesson has been laid in coming next memory this memory was horrible exactly like you said it was yeah let's move on to the next memory let's get to another memory because it does feel like you given what your options were now that we know what you would have said if you spoke you actually did make the right call and you were able to protect your dignity a little bit and and i think that you had some self-respect there it's certainly not that little girl is not the one who said yes to an 11 30 p.m podcast and knowing hayes would be late as well. If she's not even willing to... I did not know Hayes would be late.

Excuse me. Nomi, you knew Hayes would be late. If that little girl isn't willing to respond to what effectively at the time was a podcast, these two... Because they basically were saying... These two neighbor boys making fun of her. Two nasty little neighbor boys just teasing. And she just is quiet and goes back upstairs.

That's kind of the equivalent of not responding and except texting 11 hours later saying i'm sleep right which is what you should have done you ghosted them you know what this is actually really good it it's occurring to me right now because have, usually I have therapy on Fridays. Are you okay? You mean in life? I mean, no, but. Just like, are you all right?

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You doing okay? Yeah. But on Fridays, usually I have therapy. But today, this week, my therapist is out of town so in fact

this is coming into sub for therapy No, your therapist is not coming back I think No, that's cute that they're out of town, they are not coming back So is it like

is it one of those things where it's suddenly revealed that you put the lotion in the basket situation? No, they moved. Oh, they just moved. They do not want you to have their new contact information, and they have moved. Because they know that if I did have the contact information, I would then double text, triple text.

Just try to receive therapy. Much like Hayes not responding, they also would not respond. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's like, yeah, that,

that, that option. I guess that's pretty similar. Yeah. Can we advance to the next memory, please? Another memory, second memory.

How many memories are we gonna... I mean... Two. We're gonna do two. We're gonna do two? Done after two, then we'll wrap it up. This will be the final memory. Okay, I'm trying to think. Another memory... Okay.

I mean, I'm not giving this, like, these memories are, as you say, random. much like Eric Hartman. This is a memory from, I believe, first grade. I was in school, as children are, and we had like these wooden desks. It's interesting you say we. The students in the classroom.

Go on. We all had the same desk. I know what you mean. It's just interesting. And I know what you mean and I know what happened. So go on. I drew all over mine. Like whatever I had handy.

Crayons. Crayons, like markers, like pencil, like I think a pen. And, you know, it had that satisfying thing where like the nib of the pen would sort of like go in to the wood you know and it so it would effectively be a bit of a scar it's an etching and you've left a few scars with your with your pen since then haven't you oh i really have your profession haven't you oh yeah yeah this is when we first discovered ourselves isn't it pens uh taken quite a few victims in its time yeah yeah that's that's my way of giving back perhaps getting back at it is yeah um anyway i i drew i drew on the desk like i really went to town like i remember one

of the things was like what are we drawing yes go ahead okay yeah one thing i remember like gingy on the dry food you have a desk exactly i remember drawing a large flower in purple marker that had its petals were like sort of cross hatched, I guess. But it was large. Okay. And one Friday. Trippy visuals. One Friday, school would let out earlier than the other days. It would be like 1230 or something.

So you could receive therapy? Yeah, exactly. But, you know, interestingly, that day my therapist said, I'm out of town. Wow. So I stepped out of the classroom. That's just like what happened now. There I was, innocent. Innoc innocence personified

clear blue skies you know memory of like the kids making fun of me like whatever four years prior like for not wearing a shirt all that forgotten once again slate wiped clean i'm strutting out of the classroom when suddenly a maintenance guy, a guy who was in charge of whatever, the school equipment and keeping things neat and tidy. Human being doing their job? Just say a human being. Just say a person, human person being.

Just a person. So I see this and I'm like like this is a maintenance man he was the maintenance man yes no no he wasn't he was actually a human he was a human being he the same dreams as the rest of us he can't comes up to me maybe even bigger of dreams and he says certainly bigger he was also bigger physically he came up to me and he said hey hey you there dreams are probably enormous hey he says to me i see what you're doing there you drew all over your desk you're gonna have to get it all off wipe it all off because that's like school property and you're like ruining school property wanted you to clean yep after the mess you made fear shame the whole whole accountability, the whole caboodle.

Pretty young to become an adult. It came, I was adulting. Let's face it. I was confronted with the burden of adulting. That's not easy. And this man, this human man, right? Yeah. Task's not easy. And this man, this human man, right? Yeah. Tasked to perform maintenance.

And yet, he dismantled you. He absolutely at, you know, it was one single moment. And then what happened? You look it all up, feed it off with your tongue? You didn't have to do it like that he wasn't asking for that no i think he probably would have given you a spray bottle if you asked it was a warning it was a warning and he said like i'm gonna like i don't remember what exactly

details a little bit hazy repressed due to deep trauma he said i'm gonna tell talk to the teacher i'm gonna okay cut to cut this fascinating story short i came home you say you're gonna tell dr. It gets pretty good. Came home crying. Told my mom. So I says to my mom, I says to her. Mrs. Dracula? I says to her, Mrs. Dracula. I said to her, I'm going to, I got busted for like drawing on the table. I ruined everything. I don't think, like, I don't know what to do.

Luckily, there was like a parent's evening at the school. I don't remember exactly what it was, like meetings with the teacher, whatever. Parent-teacher conference, yeah. Yeah, but it was like more of a thing where like all the parents come to class together and like each sits at the, an open house kind of maybe. Yeah, because, and my mother, God bless her. I'll never forget it. She said to me, I'll take a washcloth and I'll bring it to school and I'll wipe.

I'll help you wipe the desk off. Now, in my mind, I know that I have made deep inroads into that wood with the nib of a pen that shit is not coming off not gonna work yeah okay mom you idiot you buffoon but no but she didn't know there's no solution at all i know but but she didn't know. A washcloth is no solution at all. I know, but she called me and she was like, it's okay. It's okay. Basically, she was like that, whatever. But you know it's not. I knew it was not.

She's wrong. She's wrong as hell. Mother is wrong. But she calmed me down enough. And, you know, she might have said, I'll talk to the teacher. I'll explain. You won't do it again. Explain what? That you made a mistake case yeah but like everyone everyone's on the same page about that you're a father think about your baby my baby i know me the idea that my baby would ever find herself in this situation.

She's six months. We are well past the point of training her to avoid a situation like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, she said... She wears clothes as well, by the way. Just in case you're wondering. Just to get that out of the way.

Just before you try to find a new angle. Clothes, no pen. The desks are clean at the Davenport household. She's got a pen, but she's just using it. Yeah. I mean, she's using it to write. She uses it to... Yeah.

She's already writing. She's at the Loon i believe junior lampoon program she's matriculating lampoon junior yes so yeah so so then she went to the she went to school she said yeah i saw it like she had to sit at my desk he was like i wiped it down a little bit for your mom i talked to the teacher she has to have it right under her face the whole time and she was talking to her and she calmed me down and nothing let me gasly flowers haze and sean it was a beautiful flower excuse me um nothing ever came to pass the maintenance man didn't nothing happened it was all fine now make of this story what you will but the shame and fear make of the story the shame and fear that struck me the real problem is what can chef kevin make

of the story because the episode does have to be released. What were you saying? There's a fear? A lot of shame, a lot of fear, a whole lot of shame and fear. Yes. They're going to be mad at me. Hey.

You don't deserve that. Hey. You don't deserve that. Hey! You don't deserve that. Hey, look at me. No, wait. You don't deserve to feel that way. Oh, thank God. Stop.

Hey, knock it off. When you had talked to your therapist about shame and fear, did they ever respond, uh, she went there? Yeah, all the time. time okay so she's going there but no me so like you said the maintenance man was not allowed to do any punishment no he was a random i know he was a human he was a beautiful human But he was random to you. His authority was limited, educationally speaking. Okay?

But nothing happened. You got no punishment. I'll say. And did you get a punishment from parading around without a stitch on on from your no from your belt up no you didn't no and you've done great you're a writer for the new yorker and the new yorker magazine online stars yes both both the new yorker and the new yorker magazine online yes and so same time know me in the same way if you say no to a podcast record at 11 30 p.m you will not get in trouble and if you just turned off your camera right now and went to go honk shoe you will not get in trouble.

It is okay to just leave. Draw on the desk of life, Nomi. Say no to the podcast. Go honk shoe. Wow. Let your mom think a washcloth will fix it.

Turn it off. It's the end of Good Will Hunting. Yeah. Every time I open up the Zoom window. It's the end of Good Will Hunting. He's driving the car. Get in the car and drive. Turn it off.

Son of a bitch, she stole my line. Bye. Whoa. Hollywood handbook. That was a HeadGum Podcast.