Hollywood Handbook - Natalie Palamides, Our Clown Friend

Episode Date: January 12, 2021

NATALIE PALAMIDES teaches The Boys how to become clowns. Watch her special "Nate - A One Man Show" on Netflix! Also, The Boys and Carl Tart have new episodes of shows releasing 5 days a week at Patreon.com/TheFlagrantOnes. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. So, I'm in the lab, the lab-like portion of the orchard, and I'm splicing different seeds together, cutting them and piecing them together to make new fruits. different seeds together cutting them and piecing them together to make new fruits i'm with george costanza and yeah kramer the uh real real cream the real creamer yes um and we're just coming up with i'm like nothing's off limits like anyone can pitch a new fruit like it could be like water grape fruit melon. And you just say it, and I just go, let's see. Let's see what it is.

Let's see what the seed would look like. What water grape fruit melon. Was it a big grapefruit? Small watermelon? I just made that one up. You't try that that one i wish i had come up with it on the day because i was actually that one's really good and a lot of the ones that i was coming up with like weren't even like fruits like okay i didn't even think that was like i said like a one time i i think i said like orange brick but like what yeah brick isn't a fruit no and there's no like

brick seeds no but you did try that well i had to i had to double down and then when like when kramer called my ass out i had to try to eat a brick wow because the thing about me yeah if you double dog dare me there's literally fucking nothing i won't do to protect my honor and the honor of my family was the brick combined with an orange in some way or you're just eating i was saying you could combine them to prove it was a fruit and you just say you get to trying it exactly no. Did you try anything? Just even that this machine turned something out. We have to wait like a year to find out. Because what I'm doing is I've got a scalpel.

I've got seeds. And all I'm doing is kind of a healthy dose of Elmer's glue and a bunch of seed pieces. And that goes in the ground. So you ate a brick. A piece of a brick or a whole brick? No, I didn't eat the whole brick. You ate a piece of a brick or a whole brick i didn't know i didn't eat the whole brick you ate a piece of yeah i mostly like licked it okay so you licked it and then lick the brick and then you took a little piece of brick and you put it in an orange seed and now you've planted

that and that's the splicing that you did for that one yeah for that one what were the was there another one yeah i mean george costanza came up with some cool ones okay great sorry what is one of them i i forgot to grape ricotta that's really good. Yeah. Grapefruit. That's really smart. The seeds. I'm hoping it comes out as a bunch. Wow. Of apricots on a vine. With a very thin skin.

Your issue has always been that the apricot is too hard. It's so lonely up there. And it hurts you to eat and it's by itself and yeah which is weird i guess you didn't eat a brick grapes have a whole family yeah hi welcome to hollywood hi welcome to kicking butt and dropping names on the red carpet linebacker always in this industry we call showbiz what up what up and a big what up what up to our guest today hello guest what up what up hi natalie uh it is big natalie big natalie palamedes uh she is from netflix now right

that's right big nat um i prefer to be called netflix is uh on the show and netflix is now netflix and she actually got inside there and uh she has a new show it's called nate as a special and i won't spoil it i won't spoil it you can spoil it. I won't spoil it. You can spoil it. I'm not going to spoil it. I'm not going to spoil it. I just said I won't. I just said that I won't do that. I know that I can. I'll just say.

I know that I can. I watched it. I watched it. Of course, I could spoil it. But you won't. Yeah. But it's not news to me that I can't because I definitely could. But I will not do it.

But I do want to know what it's like now a little piece of you it was now inside uh way up inside yeah it's really really way up in there can we talk about this what is that like what's it feel like it's warm it's moist you're constantly aroused and um you're sucking sucking a lot of things day in and day out can you see you can't no they they make you shut your eyes it's an honor system they don't blindfold you or anything but you shut your eyes and then you just suck whatever they put in your mouth and you get on their platform okay so this is this is what i'm really curious about is how this works so like obviously some part of you right now so you're doing this show with us right now and that's like part of that right but another part of you is inside netflix right now exactly it's kind of like an upside down sort of vibe like all that

strangers things strangers things love strangers oh my gosh it's amazing honestly 2020 felt a little bit like the upside down to me natalie right left side right am i right okay did they know when they're writing that what's coming because it was so fitting that it was the same well i felt like i was in the upside down for part of this that hell year trash fire totally all the strangest things in strangers things comes directly from being up inside the moist pit of netflix um so it's i'm barb sorry i'm a total barb 100 yeah no you are even those um those glasses that ass you know you got a barb ass no and i uh and i said i set you up for that i should you know i brought it up so it it. And standing the way you are, kind of in profile.

The high-waisted jeans. There's no denying it. You got a barbass. Double-cheeked up, yeah. Barbass Sean, as they say. So you can feel that happening to you inside Netflix. Right now, even as you're talking to us, the part

of you that's in netflix you are you can also experience but you can still talk and like uh yes like the other part of me like the netflix side of me like they kind of eat your soul i guess so you always feel like you're always there you know there's like a mirrored version of you there. And so I always feel like there's something being shoved in my mouth. I don't know what it is, but I have to constantly also be focusing on making sure I'm doing a good job sucking. It's a juggling act, you know,

once you get up in Netflix. But that's entertainment. I mean, you know, it's all, there's a reason juggling acts were the first form of entertainment and the first kind of stage shows there was because ultimately that's what we're doing. Even when you're like me, a producer, really, you're still that guy on stage, you know, juggling and tap dancing, aren't you? Because there's so many balls you have to keep in the air.

To say the least. There's so many balls you have to keep in the air and other places as well and keep them all over you keep them all over keep them up yeah my question like how do you know if you're doing a good job or not because they only have they have the numbers right and they they only tell you something if you're like sucking like doing a good job and like the numbers are good like do they print it out and show it to you or are like when you're doing good you wake up in the morning with um a handkerchief on your nightstand that has some sort of like yellowish reddish brownish whitish um gush on it okay it's not like a mucus i can only describe it as gush and that's what everybody there refers to it as so if you're doing good you get good

and if you're doing bad um sorry i shouldn't speak of that yeah you don't know this because you haven't like been on here when hayes does do a song like Gush, which is a parody of Good by Better Than Ezra. Oh, okay. Off their album Deluxe. Of course. We do want to stop down and acknowledge that because you will be eaten alive on the Reddit forums.

If you blow by something like that. The Reddit forums can suck my clit how about so they're actually really nice oh they are this you're winning them back they can still suck my clit yeah because i need somebody to suck it after all the sucking i'm doing at netflix they'll love that they're uh they'll be really responded to that they're actually really nice and misunderstood and and normal and uh like i i love those guys salt of the earth that that's not the issue it's just when you blow by something the hazeman does yeah i've done it i'm guilty of it you invite their ire but a lot of times you could win them back by you know sometimes like your clit so um

and it might not be recognizing the song you're a little younger than i am and i'm actually really young too and i am actually younger than you but i like love the that old music history yeah i love musical history motown right yeah better than ezra right but better. If we don't look back and see what came before, we're doomed to, you know. Corinthians 5.16. It's true. Yes, yes.

And so the gush is there. And if you see the gush in the morning, then you're like, okay, that's a good sign the numbers from last night were good on the platform exactly is there anything when it's bad yeah um i'm not really supposed to speak of what you could talk about the gush but what happens when it's bad is like something you are not even supposed to talk about yeah let's just say it's hard to breathe okay about four to five minutes and something sharp goes up your you know okay something sharp it's a sharp feeling it's not wow it's not a tangible object it's a sharp feeling that kind of like shoots up from, you know, and up your spine.

Shame. That's all that I can say, though. The feeling of shame, you know, can be quite... No, I think she's actually... It's a bit more than shame. I know the feeling, yeah. But we can call it shame. Sure.

That's certainly what you feel when... It doesn't feel like what shame feels like to me. So the good version is kind of the flip side. Of course, in good night moon, you say good night to your bowl of mush. And if you did a good job, when you wake up,

you say good morning, handkerchief of gush. That's a beautiful poem. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly it. Thank you. We want to talk about training.

We always want to hear about um process and like uh people think that it just happens but of course it's like uh years and years of work not for me but like for lots of people they had to like work like put a huge amount of work into getting good and i love these people too who think oh now i've done it and i'm done and i don't have to keep learning or anything but i i actually am responsible for 15 continuing education units of comedy every semester you are so i never stop training i never stop learning and i love to hear you know from our um listeners and fans like you are about what they do

yeah well I am actually pretty similar to you guys um I I um you know I'm a big fan of um being on the train train and training so much and I've definitely done my fair share of training um and i think a lot of that has to do with just saying like i think i can i don't know if you guys have a story about the the train that could tell me that's um that's kind of the line of of thinking that i that i participate in when it comes to training um do you actually want me to talk about it look i you know i brought up i brought up that we're always juggling before right and that's it that's a form of training and and what yeah we did we did want to speak on was clowning okay yeah i mean clowns juggle that's for sure so like don't they yeah totally so i do

have like a background in clowning and um people use it as an insult don't they natalie yeah they do they say you're a clown and that's supposed to be an insult yeah exactly but it's actually not an insult it's a compliment to you it's a compliment to me It's a compliment. To you, it's a compliment. To me, it's a compliment. So you can try, try, try. Try, try, try. Try to make me cry by calling me a clown. But you can't make me cry by calling me a clown because I don't cry. I never cry. But you could if you wanted to.

But I could if I wanted to because I'm trained and I'm a really good actor. But, yeah, when I was in university at Indiana University of Pennsylvania. Oh, fuck. I dropped my drink. Now that is the most fucked up thing I've ever heard.

Is that a double big gulp? That's a double big gulp from Tiavana. My mom got me this cup for my birthday. Tiavana. My mom got me this cup for my birthday. It's huge. Tea cup. Now, let's talk about, I've never been able to figure this out. Indiana University of Pennsylvania.

What is it doing there? How did it get there? Who did that? Nobody fucking knows. So it came out of the upside down as well but um it takes it takes place it is located in a town called indiana in the state of pennsylvania actually jimmy stewart was born there and it is the supposed christmas tree capital of world. I don't know if that's true, but somebody once told me that they export the most Christmas trees out of any town in the country. It is true.

It is true because I was actually in the second most Christmas trees exporting city. And they were all actually very pissed at your town. Okay. and they were all actually very pissed at your town okay well i'm sorry to your city um and but the city where i went to university really rocks at christmas trees honestly it gave me something to strive for a chip on my shoulder didn't hurt me none i mean really made me work my ass off seeing that there's a number one and it don't feel good to be number two. And I exported only, I think, I think it wasn't even close. Like, I think they exported like literally like one tenth the number of Christmas trees that you guys get.

Yeah, I know the town you're talking about. And yeah, that you guys suck. Honestly, I got complacent kind of with my career coming from a town that does export so many christmas trees i was like i you know i i felt like i got this for a while you know yeah exactly silver spoon kind of stuff but um yeah so my professor studied with this guy named jacques lecoq who is kind of like the godfather of modern clowning, as they say. He was Goliath's clown teacher. Say no more.

Yeah. Everybody knows Philip Goliath. And he was the teacher of Sacha Baron Cohen. That's where Sacha went to school. But so, yeah, my teacher studied with lacoste who is sasha baron cohen he's like a um stand-up like oh i know i know but who is he and we can't answer right because he disappears so fully into each of his characters that i don't even know if he knows who he is i know does he even exist

i don't know he's a mother he's a father he's a sister he's a brother he's a preacher he's a teacher he's a bitch he's a lover he's a child he's a mother he's a sinner he's a saint he do not feel ashamed we've skipped over a lot of stuff about like your college experience and like your training and stuff like that we can talk about the lunch situation at all uh what was what's like a normal lunch um well i would go to the caf and get a bagged lunch usually okay that was like a chicken salad sandwich with a bag of chips and some sort of was it funny at all when you get a bag lunch is it are they doing because it is clouds are they doing something funny to the are these clowns in here like or like or i guess everyone kind of is a clown right yeah they're always clowning around one time i bit into the chicken salad sandwich and it was a little pink, the chicken.

And this is actually true, but I guess it was somebody playing a prank because everybody's clowning around. And I just went to the bathroom and stuck my finger down my throat and got rid of it. And I never ordered the chicken salad sandwich again. I think I might have switched to turkey or ham after that. The ham's supposed to be pink, eh? That's what they say, I believe. If it's like chicken colored, then that's really bad. Isn't that funny?

If ham looks like that? They say ham is the pink, chicken is the stink, I believe. They say that. Chicken? Let's talk about this. Chicken stinks. Chicken can be very stinky chicken smells like shit why does it smell like that this is interesting because chickens excrement chickens shit the actual shit yeah it doesn't smell that much yeah so they're keeping

it in that's staying in the body in some way. And then if you cook it, they're holding in all that chicken shit and then you cook it, it's bound to stink, as they say. Ham is the pink, chicken is the stink. And it's these hormones. Yeah, they're pumping those chickens with hormones

to make them bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. They're getting all sweatier and stinkier. And you almost sound like a chicken when you're saying bigger. Like the... Clown school. Okay, so you had lunch and you talked to the teacher and what did he say? Well, so I signed up for his clown class and he actually at the beginning of the class, after a few weeks in, he suggested that I drop the class because I was going to fail

because I couldn't connect with the audience. And that's a really important part of clowning is connecting with everybody in the audience. There's never a fourth wall. You're facing the wrong way. You're not. Yeah, I'm looking all other directions i'm looking at the ceiling i'm like wait where do i look because usually you know when you're doing theater there's the wall there and you forget where you forget where the audience is sitting you know especially

when you get into character you're like oh the fourth wall was there but actually was it the first wall or the third wall sure and so when that wall disappears you have a little bit of a hard time adjusting kind of like in the upside down in strangers things yeah so i lost so you're fucking up you're it's a disaster it's a disaster i'm fail fail failing clown class which in hindsight is actually you know part of the mo of clown is to fail you find the gold in the failure it's good to fail you need to capitalize on failure not so good for your gpa but um at the by the end of the class i came up with this really great clown bit where i accidentally knocked um a jar of cookies off of a ladder and had a funeral for the cookies and it just it killed it absolutely crushed you're good

doing prayers for the cookies and yes yes as if the so for people sorry, but our listeners don't all know this. So if people are listening, they're going like, what? So the cookies she's acting like are basically people. Yes, you get it. That's honestly the whole bit. And you had a big accident during this show as well how much of your process involves knocking something huge over and making a big mess um probably 100 maybe 110 of that oh that's a cute little pussycat he's actually huge that's a big cute pussycat um yeah so you know if if you have an accident happen in the show you're not supposed to ignore it and continue on you're supposed to hold a funeral

acknowledge it and hold a funeral for it essentially you know accidents are gifts you know, accidents are gifts, you know, so you got at least got to make one or two jokes before continuing on with your planned piece. If you are bestowed an accident, you know, so and clown failing accidents, mistakes are good. And actually, um, you know, if during my workshopping process, if a great accident happens like for example when the mannequin falls down to my ass you know it looks like that's an accident the first time that happened it was an accident and i you know had to riff by saying by pretending she was eating his ass spoiler yeah and um but then after that accident happened i was like oh shoot that's so good like ass eating how do i get that to make that how do i make that happen every time so i

had to practice like getting the mannequin to fall over every time yeah and you know and i said i wouldn't spoil the special but i do not um abide by why is telling happening on the show and i said i wouldn't spoil the special but i do not um abide by lies telling happening on the show and i don't like i understand that you want people to watch but to act like there's uh like ass eating and like freaky stuff happening in the special uh when it is you know it's like you at a desk and it's you talking about your family. Yeah, talking about the day's news. The day's news and your family. And there's little thumbnail photos of different headlines. It's very SNL.

I was really inspired by that news portion of SNL. That part is crazy. Yeah, where I'm like Colin Jost. Yes. You like that part? Yes. Let's talk about- And talk about your family as well, though, at the desk.

Yeah, well, I transitioned from Colin into my dad, and then that's where the tears come. Sure. And it's figurative ass eating, guess i should say okay um yeah i'm sorry to mislead your audience no it's just the because the what i liked about it was um i like a lot of zachary braffery's movies like he does like oh braffery he's awesome he's awesome and he's like uh people just think that heery, he's awesome. He's awesome, and he's like, people just think that he's from scrumps, and they don't know what other stuff he's done. If you saw Wish I Was Here.

What is it that he's done? I'm about to say. Oh, okay. Sorry, I messed up on your toes. Sorry, you're about to say. Totally. What, besides scr okay. So he's done like. Sorry, you stepped on your toes. Sorry, you're about to say. Totally. What, besides scrubs, what he's done. Yeah.

Okay. No, I'm a huge Braff-ery fan. So he's done this. So I just want to make sure I can catch, honestly. No, you did, you did, you did. Every little scrump of. Yeah're gonna you're about you were gonna say his work you were gonna say right you were about to say what he does i was hoping to yes yeah he's an actor or comedian as well i'm telling you that i hope i think yeah awesome

he's acting but he's yes but he's no i'm looking forward to finding out the whole point is he's directing you know everything oh he has gotten directing and he's that's cool and he's yes and he's and in the in one of the movies he directed he's so he's an artist i'm giving you a compliment i'm giving you a compliment yeah thank you oh my gosh i'm not anything like Mr. Braffery, but that's cool. You don't know where we disagree. Well, yeah, I don't know everything.

So go ahead and tell us what else he's done. Yeah, thank you. Alex Inc. What was that? Alex Inc. Alex Inc. Alex Inc. Cool. What's that about? podcasts cool i've been on a few podcasts as well yes but he's a he's a great lover of poetry and it's it's

infused into his work and i did like that the large portion of your show where you are stopped down and just reading like. That's actually true. Lord Byron or. Yeah. Yeah. No Byron's in there. Brian. Robert Frost.

Lord Byron Jr. Lord Byron Sr. Freddie Prince Sr. Byron Sr., Freddie Prince Sr. When I say Lord Byron, I, of course, I'm spelling Lord with an E on the end. That's how I spell it as well. Hollywood Handbook.

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leap we want to make is like, what is our sort of unique clown brand? Yeah. So like one of the first things they teach you in clown school is like get on social media get your instagram going get your twitter followers going get your tiktoks and like what is your handle what is going to be your catchphrase like my catchphrase is look at that uh lollipop look at that lollipop sucker and so i kind of developed it like through a workshopping process. So it was originally, it was like, look at that. And then I added the lollipop because I'm like, what would they be looking? And so it turned into, look at that lollipop. And all this was based on like feedback from my followers. Yeah.

But adding sucker, but adding sucker to that as well as like a lollipop is a sucker. So I just think that's so brilliant that when you you know that piece that little tag that lent you know it's like an oriboros or something just yeah and you just continue to refine and hone your social media profile based on feedback that you get from the audience it's like lick it out lollipop sucker and then you know that was all verbal and then i started having different lollipops on me that i would pull out and each post i did the lollipop getting bigger and bigger and different colors and we had rainbow swirl we had unicorn lollipop we had cherry we had blow pops we had tootsie pops eventually we got i got the owl the tootsie pop owl to participate in a um a branded campaign

that i did for tootsie pop so eventually i was saying like look at that tootsie pop sucker how many look at that tootsie pops does it take to get to the center the tootsie pop sucker and so you kind of build on it that way and so yeah clowning is huge on just like corporations and getting your face out there um i loved that ad campaign yeah thank you so much and what i love about your work specifically is like and i'm also kind of confused by as you talk about licking these lollipops that you have but you are eating them there's no real you're chomping there's no other way to describe what you're doing yeah lollipops other than like eating them yeah well crunching down yeah you have to like in my work i like to keep it real i like to keep it raw nothing is manufactured like

everything that you're seeing me do wow two big pussycats everything you're seeing me do. Wow. Two big pussycats. Everything you're seeing me do is real. It's raw. It's happening in the moment. You know, I have a planned bit, but it could change any second based on what's inside that lollipop. If, you know, maybe I think I'm eating a Tootsie Pop, but some a-hole in the audience switched it up with like um a blow pop and i'm biting into bubble gum all of a sudden yes you know and i'm all of a sudden i'm then next moment i'm blowing bubbles with the gum you know what i'm saying oh no that that's nuts yeah that's what i love it's so real all these other lollipop campaigns they're like

just like these little little lickies that i hate because when i see a lollipop campaigns, they're like, just like these little, little lickies that I hate. Because when I see a lollipop, I'm hungry. Exactly. You just want to crack into it with your teeth. You just want to pop into it. I open a lollipop. First thing I do, throw out the stick because I'm not going to need it.

Because I'm not going to need it. Hold on to that for long. What's that for? I'm hungry. Who's using that yeah exactly it's like midday snack i gotta have something fill my stomach before dinner sunny this is my fucking lunch and my brunch that's right it's my fucking brunch bitch oh that's good so maybe like we don't want to get that if you help me come up with something.

Yeah, so maybe we can workshop ours. We don't want to get in any of your territory at all, but we can sort of talk about what we've been experimenting with for our clown identities. Okay. I can share sort of what I've been working on. My clown identity is named Alex Moffat. He wears a button-down shirt and slacks and cool sneakers.

Cool sneakers. Okay. Sounds like a doof already. And he does impressions, yes, but he can also fill in basically wherever you need to put them. but he can also like fill in as uh like basically wherever you need to put him alex moffat is there and not demanding attention necessarily but contributing in his own way right and attention follows at times you know some but how is alex moffat failing you know clown is all about failure so okay is that part of your clown?

Sometimes he'll misspeak a little bit and be like, so he'll be like, officer, you're behaving a little weird. Sorry, weirdly. Officer, you're behaving a little weirdly. And so he'll misspeak and then correct himself in that way. And so that, I guess, qualifies as failure. But he never would spill anything. Oh, you might want to have him try spilling something just try it just try anything once that's my rule of thumb is try anything once and if it sucks you

never do it again and the making a huge mess part of it is not like that to me that's like kind of and the making a huge mess part of it is not like that to me that's like kind of potentially like fucked up and scary and like uh gross you gotta be willing to make a mess you just do you have to be willing to fuck up to spill shit to you know crack your eggs on the ground so to speak okay you know okay well can i talk a little bit about my clown persona please i would love to hear your clown person so i signed up for this workshop that i i thought you know it was an it was online it was a virtual workshop but they were pretty strict and um you know it's this great group of people we would all perform for each other and then at the end it's a little bit like um when you do like the transcendental meditation classes where they

assign you a mantra at the end and you sort of have your clown persona assigned to you by this like guru uh who was uh who was sort of running it and you i watched him assign to people down the line and i think you know it was uh they would be named like something very uh fancy it would be a man would be named you know garnier or a woman would be named like um something playful pantene yes yes yes pantene or suave and as they got to me i'm getting excited oh what's my clown name going to be what's my clown name going to be and i'm starting to get you know um shifting in my chair a little bit and when they got to me uh the man running it uh what was his name by the way del far i love him he's highly respected in the clown community so he so he said and your clown name shall be and

he's just done garnier and he's done fruit tea said he's done and he gets to me he says and your name shall be and i'm already thinking what i want it to be you know i lobbied pretty hard to at least be like mr piss or something that's actually really good that i could like attach some sort of personality to but like it was he was like no no and when you pay initially you sign this contract that says like you're going to use this day if you clown in any capacity under any other name you're pissed the clown you actually are owed i'm not allowed to say the clown i'm telling you what the verbiage is pretty specific when I literally have to just be pissed. And it's just my face and I could just write piss on it.

And I'm allowed to put up posters and stuff. I'm not allowed to be inside the building when the show happens. Wow. So he's really challenging you there. Yeah, I would say it's a pretty big challenge. Yeah, I've had a lot of trouble developing a show around this. I'm not able to apply any of the principles from class. And I was pretty game for all the exercises and everything. But it felt punitive. And it felt really targeted.

Because I'm watching Garnier. And I'm watching Fructis. And I'm watching Panty. And they're doing these amazing shows. Suck it the fuck up, piss. Okay. You need to suck it the fuck up piss okay you need to suck it the fuck up he's trying to break you and crack you he's trying to break your performer we can't have the clown when the performer is hiding the clown with a mask so he's trying to crack off your mask your fucking prick ass mask and break into your inner child and that's where the clown lives. Oh.

Piss. Thank you. But that actually, I mean, that's actually really good. I'm kind of jealous that you have that. My clown name in college was Catnip. Ooh. Yeah. Hmm, Hungry Games.

Yeah, that's right. That's right. I was inspired by the Hungry Games because I was very hungry after i threw up my chicken salad sandwich so one thing that that was really helpful thank you one thing that piss and i wanted to ask about was the uh the progressive family of characters. You are one of, so like, I have questions like, you know, and I'm asking for like our audience too. We're like, oh, Natalie's coming on the show. They're like, you got to ask this question. Lay it on me. And so there's like, there's Flo.

And now you are part of this family with Jamie, Alan, Rodney, and Lucy. And you play? Mara. Mara. Yes. and lucy and you play mara mara yes and what i think we we want to get into sort of the mythology of these characters that like isn't often addressed in the commercials but like the fact that you guys are all married in the in the commercials and like what that means for like the stuff you're getting up to and like how that plays

out kind of like behind the scenes that these characters are all married to each other when you say married i think you just mean like we're all friends right no sorry do you not know this this is like this is so weird to me your characters all like the all like flow and like the gang now are all like and i've worked with the the firm that like did i was like part of the brainstorm and that was like the big breakthrough that all of these characters are are married piss are you there piss come in piss we lost piss shit we need to wait for piss uh kevin do you wanna just like here okay piss is here did you hear what i'm asking about no okay i was talking about the progressive family you know like the new the gang the progressive gang that natalie is a part of and how all the characters

are married in the in the mythology they're married to each other and natalie is saying that she doesn't know that lore and i don't know if like this this this comes from like the the brain of the the creator of these characters and i don't know if they haven't told her all these people of different ages and genders etc being married to one, is that not the most progressive thing you can imagine? I think that does sound very progressive. But why wouldn't they want you to know that? I don't know why. They don't tell us everything.

And I think that's so there can still be some imagination, something we can bring to the characters too, because there's a lot of improvisation on set. Uh-huh.huh oh so you're coming up with a lot of that stuff yeah so yeah a lot of that just comes from you know the love we have for each other and the like all the fun we have to like playing together and the rates and i heard it was like lost too i i i heard it's like lost where there's fake script pages that go out and like you don't get to know what's really going to happen to your character in the next one until like on the day they suddenly drop like new pages because they're always hiding from you because if anything leaks they're fucking toast nobody's going to tune into the commercials anymore because they'll already know what's going to happen. They don't want to lose any views from spoilers.

Yeah. So it's kept under pretty tight lock and key. Yeah. And the tightest of locks can sometimes be loose and their lock is definitely really tight. and their lock is definitely really tight. And so as you're making stuff up, you're making up a lot of the terms of the insurance agreement and the rates and things like that.

You're getting to just kind of improvise and riff. Motorcycle insurance was you, right? That's not a thing. That's a very funny idea. I threw out motorcycle insurance in a couple of spots when i was improvising but they were like wait no this is um we're actually doing home home insurance right now and it worked like it honestly worked yeah i mean i laughed my ass off man i like the idea of insuring a boat to me

for some reason is just like so i was like that's natalie right i mean i just could feel it like i was like that's it's on the water like it's gonna sink the boat insurance stuff was like that's natalie right i mean i just could feel it like i was like that's it's on the water like it's gonna sink the boat insurance stuff was something that i just tossed out and i couldn't believe they kept it yeah but i'm so happy they did yeah that's really crazy yeah um yeah and so so you guys aren't married in real life that's just part of the lore okay so but now you do know that because a second ago or are you asking me i i know from you telling me i mean if you're saying that we're married in the way that like we feel like a family i'm not i would say that we all then legally

no no no no no you're not married in real life we're not married you are we are we're no we've are definitely like a family and okay so that is actually what a family is is married i'm not married to everybody in my family okay family okay well maybe i okay now i'm wondering if i made a mistake how many people i might have messed up oh this is such a classic piss move to have messed up and married my whole family when i didn't need to yeah i actually i have a huge family and i'm not married to anybody i'm single so i don't know so you can't do that everybody i don't know what your family can't do that, everybody.

I don't know what your family told you. A lot of people have met their spouse. We've had a lot of people come on this show. I get some very attractive offers and then choose one that actually does work out great. That's great. But yeah, I did. So now looking back on it, I did marry my whole family. And I saw Hayes doing it it just started doing it too like i was kind of i wasn't even listening during the vows like i was just

like staring at him being like okay kind of mimicking what he was doing you kind of just hopped on board you kind of did the thing where somebody's like if you jumped off a bridge would you and you're like yeah i would and i wouldn't yeah we have a daddy baby dynamic that's been discussed a lot on the show a married daddy baby dynamic he's not my family he's my best friend and he's my daddy and i'm his baby but i understand your confusion and i'm married to my baby and my daddy as well how many rings do you get a ring for each of those or my ring finger like messed up looks like the freaking michelin man that hurts really bad it's so heavy oh my goodness it truly does look like um finger

looking like a damn slinky like a marshmallow guy but if i if i do punch you it is lights out hey i'm not trying to get you mad and you will see the inscription on the outside of all my rings which is in elvish because we're all huge fans of that franchise the elvish franchise yes elvish presley have you ever had an elvish sandwich no now tell me about that because it sounds like something i would really like it's a fried peanut butter and bananish sandwich which oh wow in um no actually that sounds in the elf realm they have bananishes oh they even place of bananas which are uh magical fruit that are akin to bananas but not exactly they're you didn't tell her what it actually says in elvish you said it's written

in elvish but you didn't tell her what the language is which is i i believe it says none but a hound dog dog and that is was just me kind of saying to my family like yes we are married now but on some level i will always be a how dog and i'm gonna mess up oh shoot are you every once in a while i am gonna like go roaming you stray and do my thing and possibly marry another family. Well, if you want to grow your family, you got to get on a one knee eventually. You have to. That's what I'm saying. And it's actually going great.

That's what you've been taught. But it's actually not true. You don't have to marry anybody to have a family. Yeah. So that is what I'm learning now. Yeah. And that rocks and times change and i we i have to be open to i hope i didn't rock your world too much

you know revealing that to you some members of my family will be very happy to hear this and others will not let's just say you know it's gonna be a lot of conversations first one by one then in subgroups and then in like the whole group together where we talk about what this means. I hope you don't mind me asking, has there been any divorce in your family? I mind. I mind. Okay. Just on record, I mind.

Sorry, piss. Sorry, I didn't mean to piss you off. Your piss is about to become very pissed. I can see that. She said that. Is that a crazy? She's turning into a puddle right before our eyes. Can you hear her?

I know your camera is off, but can you hear her? I turned the camera and the sound off. Okay. The sound comes through the camera. Can you hear me? Okay. Who? So you are responding to something.

I'm just wondering what you can hear. And if it's me, you would be responding to... Kevin's texting me some of what gets said. Some of it. Okay. And how are you choosing, Kevin? Kevin is texting me some of what gets said. And so I'm on maybe a tiny bit of a delay.

I'm picking the spots I think Sean would most respond to. Piss. Sorry. Okay. Okay. Andiss, sorry. Okay. Okay. And this is Kevin. We don't really have to, like, we can actually cut out Kevin. Let's do that.

You should get back in your hole, Kevin. It's warm down there. And Kevin is scuttling back into his hole. And speaking of holes, how do people watch your special? how do people watch your special i think they get a netflix subscription and they type nate into the search bar and um it comes up nate a one-man show not nate berganza or what's that other guy yeah this other fucking the tennessee kid get the fuck out of here fake nate we stole your name he sucks at sucking is what i heard just in the netflix realm he's not a good sucker and like he was there first but then you showed up and it was like fuck you i'm doing this now with your name

get out of here i would love to get him on the show oh Oh, it would be amazing. Kevin, can we do that? Sure. Can we reach out? Yeah. But he doesn't get nearly as much gush as I do. I'm the one with all the gush. So he gets, you know, there's a handkerchief on his. No, he doesn't get the handkerchief.

He gets the stabbing. Oh, okay. I thought he might get one with a little gush on it. No gush. He gets gush from time to time he gets he gets gush from time to time um but mostly he gets that you know stabbing pain up his yeah you know yeah and your handkerchief whatever your handkerchief is just like you can't even see the handkerchief. It's just mostly... It's just all gush. Bye.

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