Hollywood Handbook - Pat Regan and Cat Cohen, Our Seek Treatment Friends
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Should we be having fun during the theme song? Parties! No, you're not having fun. We're having fun during the theme song?
Parties!
No, you're not having fun.
We're having fun during the theme song.
It's our show.
The most fun thing for us is we get to host the show.
And the very beginning before the guests have been introduced is the best part of the show,
where just we are talking.
And we are not dealing with ha ha ha.
That is an interruption for me.
This is the part where Hayes and I, just the one thing that's ours in the whole entire world,
it's already been spoiled.
But even that I have just like,
when we're doing the intro,
I have kind of this Sunday scaries of like,
oh my God, the guests are about to-
It's gonna happen, the guests are going to wedge their way
into this perfect little world we have.
Yeah.
And this is also where I,
like this part is where I
am always kind of secretly thinking I might get discovered.
Yes. You know what I mean?
That someone will listen to the first two minutes
of the podcast and go, oh, not the guests.
This is the star.
Yes. And then that will open up.
Because like, you can't go to like Schwab's pharmacy anymore.
You know what I mean? Like that's not like, that's such an antiquated concept. that you can't go to Schwab's pharmacy anymore.
You know what I mean? That's such an antiquated concept.
Almost, you can get discovered at a pharmacy,
but you have to be so good.
You have to be like-
I have taken the Paramount Lot Studio Tour so many times,
and I have jumped off into every single office I can,
and roundly rejected at everyone
and told
you shouldn't be here, don't be here and no one has said,
wait a second, we've been looking for someone just like you.
A 40 something guy.
This town is fake but you're the real thing.
Taylor Swift.
Yes, when did you come out here?
Taylor Swift.
I thought you were saying when did I come out of the closet.
When did you grow up?
When did you grow up?
When did I end up? You think he's gay? You think my friend is gay? You think my friend is gay? When did everybody come out here? Taylor Swift. I thought you were saying when did I come out of the closet. When did you grow up? When did you grow up? When did I grow up?
You think he's gay?
You think my friend is gay.
You think my friend is gay.
That's what they show it.
When did everybody come out?
What are we doing?
I came out to Los Angeles.
Yeah.
And after a long time of bi-coastiality,
I made the full time switch in August.
Bi-visibility, yes.
Yeah.
Bi-coastial, yeah. and that's why during by visibility week,
I worked with a lot of different organizations.
Okay.
And so, and that was in August of 2023.
Can you list the organizations only because
it's just in the interest of, yeah.
To August of 2023.
2023, oh my God.
In terms of the organizations,
it just depends on the year.
I don't remember each and every one but definitely
Definitely Trevor project first and foremost. Okay, definitely
Definitely
Joke about though. Yeah, Amy. Oh paper kite. Yeah, I did some by visibility stuff for Paper Kite, which was really just funny, but also like.
Heart fault.
Heart fault, yeah.
Who's the exec now at Paper Kite?
Is it still Brooke?
I think, I don't know if Brooke was still there.
I think there, you know, there's so much turnover.
Yeah, well that's this world, right?
Musical chairs, you know?
And when it comes to the Paper Kite executive
and all love to the projects they've made there,
and Amy's obviously a legend,
but it's a little tag your it, isn't it?
Doesn't it feel a little tag your it over there, Lily?
It can feel that way.
Yeah, it's starting to.
It can feel that way.
Yeah, yeah.
It's starting to feel that way.
You know what I mean?
And by the way, when does it meet?
Duck, duck, goose.
At this point it's become a little bit
duck, duck, goose over there.
Doesn't it seem like it's duck, duck, goose?
I mean, well, it's musical chairs. It is, it is. Tag your it. Tag your it doesn't seem like it. Yeah, I mean it's well. It's musical chairs
It is it is tag your ass
Well, I'd like to be it as well okay, when did you when did you make it out here?
Yeah, when I don't get you call off the you don't live here. I don't live here. What are you doing here?
Making my dreams come true. Okay, all right
Making it happen. Mm-hmm. How long are you here for?
I have two more days to get discovered two more days for the watch. I'm leaving Tuesday. What day is it?
Don't tell me don't tell me please don't tell me. Oh you got like four days or something four days to get discovered
but weekend so
The weekend covered on a weekend. It's hard to get discovered on the weekend all the sort of
Phones are off, you know, That's when people like, yeah, they kind of decompress.
I'm sure that reps are still kind of on their break
after Veterans Day.
Oh, yes.
I think they take five days on either side of Veterans Day.
Either side of Veterans Day is gonna be a couple weeks
before anybody's really gonna do any actual business.
Totally.
When I came out here, it was the mechanical bullet saddle ranch.
That's like where you went.
That's where people kind of had their eyes out
for like an action type guy,
or like if you could be funny on there.
And then like Krasinski rides it
and now you have to do both.
Yeah.
Can I say something?
Yeah. Cause you say something? Yeah.
Cause you brought up Krizenski.
Well, hang on, because you immediately said yes.
I want to weigh in because we should agree.
It depends on what you're going to say.
So should I write it down?
Slide across the table.
Can I get a headline?
Cause I got a feeling whatever you're going to say
is going to be long.
Krizenski named People Magazine's sexiest man alive.
This year?
Tread lightly.
Disagree.
Can I see the image?
But pit something.
Okay.
Oh, God.
Don't just like shoot it down.
Who's sexier?
I was at my gym this morning, four guys sexier than Krasinski.
I saw four guys at my gym this morning.
Sexier than Krasinski.
No, they can do like an alternate cover series.
Sexiest man alive.
Each cover can have one of the different guys.
No, that'll like really move papers.
It's the one you've been waiting for.
They could do a voting series
between the four guys at my gym,
like when they want to make a new M&M cover color.
And are they all on different machines?
Well, the cover of the M&M is the color, isn't it?
How do we distinguish?
When you put it like that.
Yeah.
What color do they decide on?
They decided on purple when I was in seventh grade.
Now they don't do machines because at my gym
it's very rack focused.
What's a rack?
It's like bar, you're racking it, you're unracking it.
Today's shoulder day, we're doing push press.
Skin and metography.
Kevin's very rack focused.
He's a fucking pervert.
He is a pervert.
He is so corny. He was like a light
bloomer. Yeah. It was like a long time where he was like still into like trucks and like
dinosaurs and then one day it was just like boom, only horny stuff. Sometimes, yeah, when
you wait, it's like more intense. I wonder, I sometimes wonder if I was straight, would
I be a boob guy or a butt guy?
I think you already know your answer.
It's worth talking about.
Boob guy.
I love tits.
He loves them, he likes the millionaire,
he's a huge fan of my tits,
he likes the millionaire matchmaker's tits.
In certain seasons.
He likes him Patty Sanger.
Patty Sanger in certain seasons.
Does it for him, does it for my gay friends.
Pat was Sanger.
Right?
Pat was Sanger. How'd you think of that? Well, it's just like the sounds Does it for my gay friends. Pat would stang her. Right? Pat would stang her.
How'd you think of that?
Well, it's just like the sounds are doing
this sort of sacred dance between my ears.
And every once in a while,
they'll come back out through the mouth.
You're in tune.
Yeah, I'm just connected to that.
It's like, I don't play any instruments,
but I'm very naturally musical.
And this is kind of my songwriting.
This is my pop hit. It's Pat would stang her.
Yeah what would you say if I said we were both wearing hokas?
Oh hokas pokas.
There he goes again, the rhythm is loose.
There he goes again.
Yeah that's the best song I've ever written.
It's so good and no one talks about it.
There are only like nine words in the song
And it was written none of these verses it was truly the first song ever written for tampon commercials
And then there was of course follow your heart
Your intuition that is also for tampon and razor commercials. Really? It will lead, remember that?
Do you remember the controversy around that song?
No.
When that song came out, Intuition,
I don't know if you guys were in town at the time,
but I was in high school and it was like,
Larry people burst through the doors,
Jewel sold out.
It was Jewel sold out.
Really, I don't remember that.
Because it was like poppy and upbeat
and she was supposed to be like a poet,
like an artist.
Yeah.
I was mad that she moved out of her car.
Yeah.
There was so much of her brand, you know what I mean?
She could get a nicer car, but.
Yeah.
I was mad because I had just gotten my teeth done
to look like hers and then now suddenly she like
fixes like her teeth and like, okay, it's hers, and then now suddenly she fixes her teeth.
And okay, it's like, well just say,
at least tell me what I did.
You guys are, stop commenting on women's bodies.
I mean, it's out of control.
Women's mouths, stop talking about women's mouths.
Mm-hmm.
In my presence.
I have to give Kevin some women's bodies.
I'm so sorry, let me explain the dynamic.
I have to be kind of throwing him kippers,
you know what I mean?
Like little treats over there, or else he's gonna,
like the reason they feed the seals at the aquarium
is because otherwise they're gonna like go into the seats.
You know what I mean?
And eat people.
And eat people, yes.
If you get them hungry enough, then just all bets are off.
Really? Yeah.
So when I'm talking about women's bodies,
obviously I don't wanna be talking about that.
It's like disgusting.
Totally. You're such a good guy by the way. Thank you, yes. But like I'm talking about women's bodies, obviously I don't wanna be talking about that, it's like disgusting. I hate that.
You're such a good guy by the way.
Thank you, yes.
But like I'm keeping him over there
because he's gonna like detest me
and devil his way through here.
Kevin.
Prior to Kevin being in Wallace,
this show was like, miss me with the women's body,
we didn't want anything to do with it.
But now Kevin needs just like a little,
just an IV drip going.
Hello, y'all.
You guys are famous to me from,
and it's Kat and Pat from Seek Treatment.
And you guys are in commercials online
for like little candies that have.
Oh my God, don't even with that.
Talk to my lawyer.
Yeah.
I swear to God.
That ad gets more play than our podcast they
pump that ad up so much yeah listen not to keep bringing it up but I'm I'm just
trying to shower at my gym gaze run like knocking on the shower I saw you in a
commercial I go let me shower yeah after the shower let's am I in it
I've never seen it you are your presence is it. Your presence is felt. Yes, but like you're not.
But I don't think they cut to me at all.
I don't know if they cut to you necessarily.
I haven't seen it because I'm not in it.
How would you know that they don't cut to you?
Your algorithm knows to only show you your face.
It would have come across my desk if I was in it.
It's an ad where it's mostly Kate Berlant
and she's talking about these little gummy treats
where it has just a tiny bit of weed in it.
And it's just right.
And she's talking about,
it's amazing how she can just eat her little candy and-
Yeah, and feel free.
And go about her day.
Do you guys like weed or what's up?
You know what?
I suppose I'm known as the Chiba-hawking chief around these parts
Just so addicted to what the ganja does and you can feel it coming off of me. I'm a legendary chiller
Everything I'm wearing is made of hemp. I think that your hoodie is does does hearken towards that. A weed culture.
The weed man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I fuck with it heavy.
I actually talk about it so much on the show
that people have asked for less,
but it's just the only thing that really comprises
my personality at this point.
Yeah.
Is my love of smoking that good stuff,
that delicious kush.
What are you doing these days in terms of strains?
Because I love the fun names.
I don't smoke.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're nerds.
Yeah, and neither do I.
I've never tried it.
Well, I'm sober.
I'm sober.
It's a cultural thing for like, you know,
how some people have that relationship with their religion.
I just like to talk about it.
Yeah, I'm more sober than you are.
So, yeah, it's not a competition.
I just, I.
It's not, it's not a contest.
I don't feel competitive about that.
If you wanna.
I don't mean we can't make money off it,
you know what I mean?
It doesn't mean.
Well, that's the thing, a lot of people seem to wanna do it,
especially podcast listeners, these fucking people,
don't have anything going on, you know what I mean? It doesn't mean. Well that's the thing, a lot of people seem to wanna do it, especially podcast listeners, these fucking people. Yeah.
Don't have anything going on, you know what I mean?
They just smoke weed and stare at the fucking speaker.
It's an epidemic.
Yeah, they just stare at their Beats pill all day.
I have a nephew who's a podcast listener,
and he's on, I would say he's waking big every morning.
It's an epidemic.
A nephew?
Drove it. I'm joking.
Sorry, I don't know.
I'm so hungover, dude.
Okay, yeah, we're nerds and then we're so hungover.
Yeah, no, we don't party at all, but we're so hungover.
It is cool.
It is cool to have three drinks and be this way.
Three drinks.
Three martinis.
That's, did you guys watch Real Hostos of New York, season nine?
Of course.
So that's the only season I skipped.
Oh, god, there was this party where this guy named Ray
kept saying, three junk, quit three junks,
quit three junks.
And I had to kick him out of the party.
Why was he saying that?
Cause he was really drunk and he had been to Ibiza
with Luan, but it was supposed to be a big secret,
but Ramona wanted to expose it at the party.
What's his job?
And he, it wasn't clear, his name was Ray,
and for some reason I know in my heart
that it's spelled R-E-Y.
And he was like, Ramona was like, I heard to a b-side with Luan. Like romantically?
Of course, like sexually. Yeah. Yeah sexually but not romantically. Erotically.
And then he just like kept getting in our faces like how did you know about a b-side you bitch?
It was one of the best episodes ever. I knew a girl in New York once who was dating a guy named Ray Raymond
And his best friend was named Clark Clark.
That's crazy.
What do you think about that?
That's out of control.
Ray Ray and Clark Clark.
I could of course understand why they would be drawn
to each other.
Yeah.
This is a-
Your names rhyme.
Our names do rhyme.
Well that's why the podcast works.
Except not our full names.
I actually disagree.
Patrick and Catherine are slant rhymes.
Are they slant rhymes?
I used to hear.
Here we go again.
So this was the entire hour leading up to recording
was this conversation.
But let's do it, let's hear it
because you have so much to say about it.
There's two words in my life
that I have repeatedly misheard for my own name
and that's Patrick and bathroom.
Really?
Well, you know, I go through something,
I go through something where. Bathroom. Yes. Yeah, you know, I go through something. I go through something where-
Bathroom.
Yes.
Yeah, I'm like, wait, what?
Yes.
Can I go to the, hello?
What?
Do you know where the bathroom is?
Uh.
Hello.
It's me, I'm right here.
Ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba.
Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
I go through something where-
This is grotesque, what I'm doing.
I'm holding my tissue.
Yeah, no, I'm not a fan.
Kick me out.
It's better than putting it.
Can I say, first of all, uncross your arms.
I can't, at this point I can't.
No, his energy is closed for a reason.
This is sick.
Here, let me lurch forward real quick.
This is sickening.
I'm gonna lurch forward.
Since I landed in Los Angeles,
it can't stop sneezing, this town, the winds.
The allergies are not good right now.
I've been struggling.
I'm on all kinds of stuff.
You're allergic to success.
You know?
Oh!
That was close, exactly.
I didn't have to sneeze when we said that.
That is support.
That's an empath.
You're an empath.
That's a yes and.
It's a physical, a medical empath.
Empath, sympathy sneeze.
I was in a horrific car crash.
Do you want this dirty one or the clean one?
I don't want one at all.
Oh my God, like die.
Like Princess, die because you were so empathetic
to Princess, die.
Yeah.
And you had to crash your car.
Until about three days ago, it hurt to sneeze.
Oh my God.
How does it feel now?
Whoa.
Just moderate discomfort.
Oh my God.
Okay.
I'm glad you're feeling better.
So you woke up one day and you're like,
oh, this is great.
Like, that was an amazing sneeze.
How long was the impact?
Two weeks.
Two weeks.
Oh, that must have been so nice when you just had a
painless sneeze.
It's tantamount to when you have a toothache
and it's ruining your life and then you don't have one
and you're just grateful in that moment
for not having a toothache.
And this too shall pass.
Yeah, it's a nice reminder.
Sometimes you appreciate things even more,
your health, your comfort.
Or even when you have to pee so bad.
That's such an interesting point.
And then you finally pee and you think,
wow, how nice it is.
What a relief.
Yes, it's called relieving yourself.
Exactly.
Yeah, and that's why.
It's so beautiful.
It's actually gorgeous.
I can't wait to go after this.
Pissed, that is.
No, I can't, yeah. But trust me, I can't wait for you to go either. I can't wait to go after this. Pissed that is. No, I can't, yeah.
But trust me, I can't wait for you to go either.
I can't wait to leave.
But even that sneeze,
it looked like it was hurting you a little bit.
So you were sneezing.
You didn't look great, yeah.
Well, it's because I was like.
You look shocked.
Because I was.
You look shocked.
Well, there was a part of the experience
that was like, I can't believe this is happening.
Like, this is so crazy.
This is a story we'll tell people for years.
Years, I was talking about sneezing. And then my friend, you never guess what this is happening. This is so crazy, this is a story we'll tell people for years. Years I was talking about sneezing,
and then my friend, you never guess what he did next,
he snows.
We'll be belly up to Fallon's late night dusk.
This will be our late night anecdote.
Fallon, we keep forgetting to text him back about coming on.
So by the time you do the Tonight Show,
you believe that they will have changed
the sort of visual format so that you're facing him.
Yes.
Is that right?
Because that's how you would be.
No, I think it'll be like, I think it'll be like this.
Why don't we go on a wakeboard?
I think I'll be sitting here.
I like the idea.
I think I'll be kind of like this.
Yeah.
I'll say Jimmy.
I would say, I'll tell them, I'll do the show,
but back to the audience. I want eye contact with Jimmy. No, I'll do the show, but back to the audience.
I want eye contact with Jimmy.
None of this phony stuff will work.
So you put your 32 ounce water bottle here
to have kind of like a Jimmy presence
that you can sort of play to.
This would be the reference.
And I don't know that I'm going a full term,
but I know that I'm leaning like this
and I'm saying, Jimmy, stop.
So he's giving you the business.
He doesn't do that to a lot of
people I know hard for me to talk to Pat with this with this physical lay with
this line I know I know but yeah that's not that's not you're stacking me should
I you're sad though that's I mean you know that like the people that were
stacked like the set dressing here is, it's abysmal.
Yeah, nightmare, nightmare.
What do you think about me having four of those every day
starting yesterday, going through the rest of my life?
Do you know that I've been saying for years,
the secret to health is sleeping 14 hours
and having three liters of water a day.
128 Ozzy, you're the wizard of Ozzy.
I'm the wizard of Ozzy, yeah.
Oh wow, okay.
Are you guys excited for the Wicked movie?
I'm getting fucking fired up, yeah.
I'm sick of it.
You know I have a running thing.
I can't tell where you're looking and it's scaring me.
Where do you want me?
Just like, I'll tell you that I'm looking
wherever is like best for you.
What's nice is you can always imagine
that he's looking where you want
because let me trust you, he's not.
Let me trust you, let me tell you, you can trust me.
Oh my God.
Well, you know, I'm sleepy.
Why?
You said 14 hours of sleep
and I just thought, that'd be nice.
I couldn't have had more than six last night.
I couldn't have had more than six.
You couldn't have just.
Six is a dream, six is a fantasy for me.
Just knowing your whereabouts at different times,
you couldn't have.
Yeah, just like looking back, thinking about
when I went to sleep, thinking about moments
I was jolted into consciousness,
thinking about when I ultimately woke up for the day.
What time did you wake?
Did you go to this party last night?
I did.
Okay.
I stayed much longer than to these day places.
Okay.
It meant so much to me that Pat enjoyed it.
Oh, wait.
He doesn't like, usually when I have a party,
I look at Pat and he's like, I have to go.
Well, I don't like events, but I did go home,
but like pretty late, I got home probably at like 10.30
and typically I try to be in bed by 9.50.
That's crazy.
So, cause I wake up at 6.35.
That's crazy.
So I already was like, wow, we're dealing
for certain with less than eight now.
And is that a noise is waking you up or?
I wake up, I do sound.
Your internal clock.
I set alarm for 6.35, but something beautiful
and magical has been happening to me
where I wake up naturally at 6.29 every day.
That's the luckiest thing you can ever have.
I know.
And so that's been really cool.
The numerology of that would be so fascinating.
Nine and six is 15.
Two is 17.
Seven and one is eight.
So eight's sort of a sacred number.
Tell me your birthday.
Halloween proper.
Halloween proper, okay.
And what year?
1988, not to inch myself.
Ooh.
How old are you guys?
You know, it doesn't matter anymore.
What does it feel like?
What does it feel like?
How old do we feel?
The podcast years were actually pretty fresh, I think.
Yeah.
You guys really went for it with the ice, huh?
Of course.
Getting your money's worth here.
Well, there's something, have you had the ice coffee here?
Yeah, I have it sometimes.
It doesn't work.
I have it sometimes.
Is it working on you?
Oh, I see what you mean.
I thought you meant it doesn't come out of the spigot.
No, it's not like working.
Sometimes that, sometimes that's right.
It is working.
Let me tell you, it is working,
but we're having sort of a neutralizing effect.
So the ice coffee is working on you,
but we're working as well.
Can I say this though, Hayes?
Before we started recording, Kevin was really rushing us. He's like, you we're working as well. Can I say this though Hayes, before we started recording,
Kevin was really rushing us, he's like,
you guys have to start recording,
Pat and Kat have a heart out, and I said,
it's fine, we're gonna run out of steam around 20 minutes.
And I looked and checked, for the first time,
I checked the time at 20 minutes,
and Hayes had just sat back,
you were taking a long sip of your drink,
and there was dead silence.
Oh my god.
Should we be talking more?
What should we talk about?
But you know that audience has turned on me?
Do you know that audience has turned on me?
Because I interrupt too much.
Your own audience has turned on you?
Yeah. And do you know what I'm doing now?
Punishing them by never interrupting.
And that means that sometimes they'll have to deal with dead silences
and it's their own fault.
I've done that.
And they're going to rue the day.
They logged on and told me I interrupt. And one time someone said I was misogynist for interrupting Catherine. I've done that, I've done that. And they're going to ruin the day. They logged on and told me I interrupt.
And one time someone said I was misogynist
for interrupting Catherine.
I mean, yeah.
And they said it was such a strange turn for me
to become quite so misogynist.
But that's nice.
Oh yeah.
I remember that.
That was a surprise for me when you became that.
So now that person can enjoy the dead air.
The silence.
That accompanies me waiting my turn to speak.
Yeah, I'm not gonna remember what I have to say.
It's gotta come out now.
Totally, it has to come out when it comes out.
That's what the artist's way says at least.
But what does she know?
A three trillion copy sold.
She didn't like, what did she do?
What good art and stuff.
No one knows.
No one knows.
What is her name?
Julia Cameron.
My favorite part of the artist's way, if you have practiced, is like the introduction
when she's talking about it, she tells nine completely analogous stories, completely lateral,
where each story, this is the format.
She's like, I was in a coffee shop in Santa Fe.
A woman approached me, she said, are you Julia Cameron?
I said, yes, I am.
She said, I just want to tell you, you've changed my life.
I said, no, I didn't.
You changed your life.
I just gave you the tools.
Oh my gosh.
There's nine stories of that.
Like, that's a really common format actually
for any kind of like, especially like a very thin,
like self-help type of book.
I recently was convinced to try a very short,
like four hour audio book.
Of what?
On like better communication.
What is it called?
I believe it's called nonviolent communication.
Oh, better communication.
What have you been doing?
Yeah.
It's been violent.
It's been violent.
It's been violent.
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Where are you looking?
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That's why he's wearing his glasses.
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Where's the glasses?
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Do you have a black eye?
It's not black.
Show us.
It's like, it's like, it's dark as hell.
Purple, it's his smoky eye.
A yellowish.
From him telling you his story.
Violence.
From the way I communicate.
Off the podcast, I don't like the way I talk to people.
And so I thought, oh, this will help me.
So I listened to it and it's like an hour of it is like,
and then another person told me how much they love
my tools and my teacher.
And it's just like, and it's just this guy
narrowing his own book.
And it was highly recommended on Reddit,
which I always trust.
But for some reason, a rare miss for Reddit,
it was just so many stories of it working.
And I was like, well, tell me what it is,
and then I'll tell you if it works.
How about this, let your tools speak for themselves.
Thank you, yeah.
Can I ask, what did you search on Reddit to find the book?
I think I look at a lot of book recommendation threads
on there, and so it'll be like,
cause I'll be like, I'm always looking for like
a good audio book or something,
Totally driving.
Cause I love driving.
A cross town.
And so, and so one of them that came up was like, I'm always looking for like a good audio book or something because I have a lot of driving. And so, and so one of them that came up was like,
what's in, you know, what's like a self-help-ish
audio book that like really had an impact on your life.
And this was one of the top ones.
And a lot of people saying like, came here to say this.
Well, loved this one.
So this many people came here to say this.
Like, I'm gonna do this.
You know I went down a path with Deepak Chopra.
I didn't know that, but I'm sure you'll tell me all about it.
I went down a path with Deepak Chopra.
So that's why I.
Which book was that?
There's a couple, I think MetaHuman is one it's called.
There's one that's about like, I don't know,
it's always saying the same thing,
which is that everything's fine.
Yeah.
And that only got us this current moment, of course.
I also MetaHuman.
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Whoa.
Hollywood hamster.
I'm so old that I can't drink alcohol anymore
and I feel, my brain is like rotted.
Oh, okay. Three.
A lot of it has been coming to us.
How many did you have, Pat?
He's dead sober.
I'm dead sober.
Eight years.
Wow.
That's why he's having these creative epiphany.
How long did you say?
Eight years.
Okay, I'm way more sober than you.
Really, really?
How did you guys meet?
We were both reaching for the same copy
of the movie Big Trouble and a Blockbuster.
No, it was a Tim Allen movie written by Dave Barry.
Yeah, we wrote the book and then the movie.
There was only one and so ultimately,
it was a bit of a tug of war, some angry words.
And we sort of fell into the pit.
It was one of those big wire bins,
like what they put the balls in.
When you're a kid.
I missed those.
Yeah, but this was for DVD.
It was just for DVD.
So we're inside that.
And then we, you know, and it was like, all right,
somebody must have been an employee or maybe just another shopper.
But they were they suggested we watch it together
because we were such a stalemate.
And then it was like, are we going to your place
or are we going to my place?
But they had a console inside the shop
and we ended up staying there.
Do they have any gaming chairs there?
They had some Alienware gaming chairs, yes.
They had a whole like gaming, they they have a gaming settee.
You know what I mean?
And a gaming chaise.
Yeah.
Neon cream after a teabed.
And a really nice tea set.
You don't think of Blockbuster as offering tea.
That's so funny.
No, I don't.
I don't ever think of it like that.
Yeah, but they had a really nice,
I know just a gorgeous selection of the art of tea teas.
And so we got kind of litty off of those.
And-
A little OPM tea.
Could be.
I mean, I didn't look at the whole list of ingredients.
I'm not like a label maniac.
I know.
You know what I mean?
That's funny.
But this is like, I see people still using the bags.
Well you say that.
You are supposed to.
But I don't think you believe it.
You're supposed to consume tea now.
You lie on your side, you have like the long pipe,
you like stuff the end with tea.
Like you don't like steep a bag
that's full of chemicals and stuff.
We met at NYU.
We met at NYU.
Oh my gosh.
We were in a Greek theater class,
and during the break we went to get boba.
The entire production we were doing for the class
was completely gender fucked,
which means I played a woman and Calvin plays a man.
Yeah. Okay.
That's allowed.
So that was very allowed at our institution.
That was very allowed.
And it was not only allowed but encouraged.
And it was basically made us look at acting
in a completely different way.
And storytelling, I would say,
because acting is ultimately, for me, it's not about,
I don't know, it's just about getting a story across.
Well, it's inherently designed to be,
possibly sort of a narcissistic, selfish endeavor,
unless you view it in the context
of the entire story in production.
Which I do.
So you are, you know, but a color on the canvas.
Yes.
A piece of fabric, you know, within the woven.
The tapestry.
Yes, tapestry.
And so I love hearing you say that.
And we talk about that so much on this show.
Are you okay?
You just hit yourself.
Yeah, it hurt. It hurt.
Yeah, I'm okay. It hurt.
I like to.
You know, I've taken to saying this
when someone asked me where I met Catherine,
I say the same place I met myself, New York University.
Oh my God.
What's their mascot?
What's our mascot from our school?
I used to know it because, you know, they won-
On it.
NYU mascot, please.
They won 2017.
It's a Violet.
Hillary Clinton's.
Go Violets.
Go Violets.
Violets.
To this day.
I might name my daughter Violet.
Really, will you?
I could.
Well.
Because you love this university.
Because of my love for the university.
You're missing some of the traditional college experience,
yes, but you're getting it.
Right, being in the city and not on campus. It's not a real campus.
Yes, I mean there's no reason to let go.
Take my eyes off her wall.
The clock.
I was mean, I'm sorry.
No, I felt that it was time.
Sometimes when you're wearing a ring,
it hurts to hold hands.
I can, yeah.
You guys wear rings, you're both betrothed.
Not to each other, but that's okay.
Oh, thank you.
Do you have kids?
Sorry, thank you for reminding me.
But like when we do the show.
Yeah, we like to just let people know,
like these things come off.
And I took mine off in the car.
And yeah, I don't care if somebody steals it.
You know.
Cause they, when they're like, when they watch at home,
like it's kind of a little more fun.
Totally.
Imagine what could be.
I know it.
So are we supposed to be being real or fake and what's happening? I?
Want to get to know you guys seem like amazing people and this is this
They don't want us you know like they don't want us to like where's the?
Are we pretending things yeah? I don't know I want to know about like you have pets and stuff
Well you have yeah, I mean you have a lot of choices about what you do on the show, but in general on the show,
we keep a little bit of a layer in between ourselves,
our actual selves, and what we're doing on the show.
Of course, the heightened version of yourself.
Will this be included in the episode?
Yes.
I don't know, I don't know what this show is at all.
Are you upset with us?
No!
Please!
You guys think I'm boring and you have no idea.
I'm upset with myself as always.
Do you think I can I think of anything to say
After the show like you'll see as soon as we like as soon as the cameras go off
We're gonna try and like keep this going I know but we always do that
So don't be alarmed like think it's just for us like it's a where are we going after this?
Where we like yeah, we're all exchanging number. We always say what what's the mood? Yeah. You know what I do miss?
What's up for lunch?
Hey, wait, Kat misses something.
Everybody stop.
Thank you, thank you.
Lifting me up and making space, holding space for my voice.
You know what I do miss?
When I was in high school
and I got sucked into youth group,
I miss the feeling of when the service was over, everyone going to lunch.
Really?
Where are we going to go?
Who wants to ride with me?
I miss certain Sundays after church, there was a downstairs munchkins lemonade.
You wait in line to get one.
My grandma.
Yummy yummy.
Yeah.
You know what I'm good thinking about too?
But of course the good thing about it was that church was over.
Can I ask, did you remember the rap I had a few months ago?
Um, yes. In the studio I had a few months ago?
In this studio?
Yeah.
I wanna find that.
I wanna get back to there.
I don't remember too much about it.
Tell me what the like sort of ingredients were.
It was like a Mediterranean chicken rap.
It was from a place that's like quite popular.
Have you tried the, so can I make a recommendation?
I don't mean to step on the rap that you're talking about.
There's a chicken Caesar wrap available
from a place called Giada,
and it's gotta be my favorite rap.
But I'm just so sick of chicken Caesar wraps.
G-I-A-T-A, huh?
I'm so sick and tired of chicken Caesar wraps.
Are they doing it in a new way?
It's like the Mediterranean Caesar wrap.
I just love it, it's so good.
But is it wet enough, Kevin?
You can get it, well, the most common order of it
is extra Caesar. I see, so it sounds-
They don't initially make it.
It sounds quite dry.
I think they start it at a level that is great for me,
someone who doesn't want it to be too-
So I like it kind of juicy.
But they'll give you extra Caesar.
Can I ask you something else?
You can, but I might deflect.
And that's completely fine.
I thought my alarm was going off.
I'm hearing things.
What kind of crouton are they working with?
I just, I love it.
I like the rap.
You like the not knowing.
You don't want to get too into it.
I don't like, I'm not really dissecting and analyzing it
because I'm not even necessarily like a rap guy.
Really, they're my favorite in the world.
That's so funny.
This one knocked me on my fucking ass.
You seem like such a rap guy. Really, they're my favorite thing in the world. This one knocked me on my fucking ass.
And you know what?
The Peter, or the rap, the tortilla is very aggressively.
Peter, Peter pumpkin eater.
But he's fighting, this is how he's like,
I'm not a rap guy, he calls him Peter.
I call him Peter.
The Peter isn't very important to him.
It's a bit of a performance, isn't it?
The tortilla that it's wrapped in
is so aggressively grilled.
Oh, fuck yeah. I see.
I see what you mean.
I'm loving this.
That makes so much sense.
The big grill lines and the-
Almost there, man.
We're so close.
A little extra peppery, like, you know,
sort of almost like, I don't wanna call it spicy,
but the amount of pepper is like giving me a nice little
zap every time I take a bite.
I'm loving this rap.
Well, do you know what I've brought in my backpack?
What?
Okay, here we go.
Sometimes you say, do you know?
And sometimes you say, you know.
Yeah.
Well, you know I brought something in my backpack.
Yes.
I just like to keep everybody guessing.
There's always work to be done.
Different turns of phrase, different syntax.
You never know what I might choose for my next sentence.
Where is your backpack?
It's over in the smaller studio,
which at last I was inside.
So you're taking up two studios right now.
I was told by Rachelle, who is a lovely producer,
I was instructed to place my backpack in that studio.
And I'm not here to question, it's not my job.
Meanwhile.
And she's in the studio by herself.
I'm fluffed up.
This is like New York, this is like you have
a little Manhattan mini storage over there.
Well it's a piére de terre.
Because you like the billboard so much.
They're so funny.
It's a piére de terre.
Yeah.
You know, I got a storage unit for my extra clothes.
Oh, really?
Yeah, and I went and it was so scary to be in there.
My parents said I should never go alone.
Now what did, okay.
My parents said that to me.
I'm 33.
Age reveal.
Well, do you know?
Age reveal for the hat pack.
Yeah, now the hat pack,
cause they're all writing it down.
The hat pack, so the moneys don't.
They've got, they've got. They blow a almost done. They've got Pat's birthday down already.
Totally.
My mom was more on Halloween as well.
My mom was more on Halloween as well.
Is she really?
Is she really?
Is she a Scorpio by nature?
But I don't mean to break the thin layer.
But is she a Scorpio by nature?
But I don't mean to break the thin layer.
He's lying to your face.
So this is a thin layer. Is she a Scorpio by nature but I don't mean to break these lines your face your by nature is she a Scorpio by nature I
don't like I don't know how to answer I don't know how to answer I have to go I
don't know enough what you said we have to go yeah oh my god bye That can't be the end. Hollywood handbook. All right.
I like that we get to do this.
I like that people get to hear this.
We always have a little just debrief after every episode and talk about just what went
down.
Uh, and in this case we have a little extra time because of what went down in this episode.
Yeah, I, you know, we have, uh, look, there's a responsibility you have as a host, right?
And you are, you are actually hosting, if you think about it, like a dinner party,
if you invited a lot of friends and some of
them brought plus ones that maybe you weren't as familiar with, and one of them started
behaving in a very destructive way inside your home or during the, your friends, for me it's Hayes, and also the guests themselves.
I mean, that's something that shouldn't be lost in this.
Like when we take an action like we did today, which has left us with some extra time in
the episode, we're not doing it out of malice towards the person who has done the unacceptable behavior.
Um, we are doing it in some ways to protect them from themselves because I do think people grow.
I think people change. Um, not always, maybe not, you know, I don't have the highest expectation for that to happen in this specific case, but I think it does.
I think I probably am not going to know about it.
So yeah, my preference would be yes, just to, um, ignorance is bliss.
Uh, so I, yeah, I would kind of turn a blind eye to all of this activity.
turn a blind eye to all of this activity.
One of the hosts told a story on this episode story to me saying that doesn't
sound very, it was more of a screen.
Told a screed.
No recited a screed.
I mean, it's not the first time they had said this stuff.
Um, they were, I do not believe the act was done purely out of malice.
I truly don't.
That's not the accusation. I'm the malice of the ball, the malice piece.
I'm the malice of the ball, the malice piece.
But the ultimate result was everyone agreed this can't be in the show.
So we sometimes, you know, you encounter people in your life out in the world and you think,
Oh, this will make a great, you know, feature for me on the podcast where I really drag this so and so, I'm not going to use the words that were used, and take them to task.
And then hopefully you sort of regain consciousness at some point and realize that it's to no one's benefit
And it's fine for us like the show's supposed to be fun
Supposed to be funny. I don't want to say trouble. I don't know one's in trouble
I don't even want to say who it was, but I do I have to it was Pat
so Pat is the one who
Went a little loco on us.
By the way, it was a high stress environment. It was head gum, which is like never a good vibe.
So there was obviously a bunch of other factors that came into play.
Like I don't think Pat's always like that. I don't think he's never like that.
I know he's sometimes like that. He was like that in front of us.
So it was five to seven minutes that had to be cut. Yep. He did reach out after asking for it to be cut. Obviously this was something very serious.
It wasn't something like very innocuous,
like him making just like-
Like a very light-
Gentle observations about someone that he doesn't even know.
A person he saw at a place of business
who he has no relationship at all,
had sort of described them in
almost not that specific of terms and with a, uh,
an amount of affection as well. Um, so long.
Yeah. It was a long time to talk about someone who he knew so little about.
Long enough to cause pretty serious impacts.
Uh, now that it has been removed and obviously it was very, very serious.
Oh, oh yeah.
Very damaging to everyone. I remember being scared.
Did I was shivering.
Hmm.
Do you want to read any of like, Pat's email without getting into specifics?
This can function as kind of like a public apology if it ever if it does end up getting
this is how you know it was really bad.
Those things he said.
Yeah.
It wasn't an email.
He had to do it in person. He called?
No, it was in person after.
He needed more context.
Oh wow, he came back over to the studio.
He told me in person, was like, hey.
Are you okay?
Because I know the energy that he had in that room.
After giving him a couple moments to wind himself up, he's out there pacing around,
building himself up new tizzy.
You cut that.
What did he say?
You better cut that.
If that ever, if that audio sees the light of day, you won't.
Thank you for asking.
Yeah, it was shivering.
It was very scary, but it was intense.
He said no paper trail, so that's why I didn't email.
And I had to cut it.
I'm feeling okay.
I had to take a couple of days off.
So that's why you guys haven't heard from me in, uh, like a couple of days.
And I noticed that.
I definitely noticed that I noticed that profoundly.
Yes.
The absence had a big impact on me by certainly by the end of day two, I was
like, I'm really noticing this.
Yeah.
That's what it's like.
It can't just be this, right? Cause the way I feel is so different.
Something else going on.
Yes, I was clocking that for sure.
Felt it right away.
And it was, you said it was how,
you said it was how long?
A day? A couple days?
Two days? Couple days. Couple couple days? A couple days.
A couple days.
Exactly what I...
Exactly how long I was gonna say.
Felt like it could have been almost a couple days.
Right.
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