Hollywood Handbook - The I Was There Me Too Show

Episode Date: July 11, 2017

Sean and Hayes are joined by MATT GOURLEY to help him do his show I Was There Me Too from now on. This episode is sponsored by The Big Sick, Casper Mattresses (www.casper.com/HANDBOOK code: H...ANDBOOK), and Chapman University (www.chapman.edu/grad).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. So, it's me. I'm there with Mike Madsen and Marshall Mathers. Oh my God. And Justin Lin. And we're, of course, building a Ms. Pac-Man arcade game from scratch. Wow. And as I go to soldering the logic board, I realize something, which is I am scared of ghosts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:38 And I do not want to see them on the machine if we finish it. Yeah. So I start coming up with a series of excuses for like why the little torchy thing isn finish it. Yeah. So I start coming up with a series of excuses. Right. For like why the, you know, little torchy thing isn't working. Yeah. Or like, oh, let me just go clean the casing again because I don't want any dust to get in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:56 But it's getting more and more obvious that I do not want the machine to be finished. Yeah. And Marshall starts rap battling at me. Okay. And roasting me with some of his lyrics that are very aggressive and are using words I don't want to be called. Yeah. And-
Starting point is 00:01:16 Can I, like, just so I can get an idea, is there any, like, just a short piece of it that you can do? Yeah, I mean, I would need a beat. Okay. Yo. Yo. And that wasn't the beat he was, That doesn't fit the flow he was doing It was very slow
Starting point is 00:01:48 It was very slow Okay Trying to build a Pac-Man machine But I'm with the slowest Soldering guy I've ever seen He don't want to put in the logic board and to be honest, I'm getting bored. I'm here with
Starting point is 00:02:10 Mike Madsen, Justin Lin, and this dude, Sean, who stinks like my shin. And I'm going, you're calling me that? A sticky shin? And he truthfully did this.
Starting point is 00:02:28 That also feels pre-written to me. And I turn around with a hammer and I go, hey, how do you like to find out what a nail feels like? Or like one of the logic boards that you were smashing together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:42 And he goes, I don't want that. And all of a sudden, I don't want that. Mm-hmm. And all of a sudden, we're not rapping anymore. All of a sudden, yeah. Forgot how to rap. You know? So,
Starting point is 00:02:53 anyway, I pretend to get an emergency phone call from the hospital to go in and perform surgery. And they played the game all night without me. I guess I had a really fun slumber party. I'll teach you the wiring. There's a wiring to make the ghosts nice.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yes, or to make them look like. Oh, yeah. No, they don't look like ghosts. They look like, you know, like chick, like, you know. Nice girls. Not like scary. If it's not, the bottom's kind of jagged, but if you flatten that out and you put a little
Starting point is 00:03:28 bump at the top, then what you've got is like a... Oh, you mean a titty. It could be. Hey, welcome to Hollywood Handbook and Insider's Guide to Kicking Butt Dropping Names in the Red Carpet Live Back Hallways of this industry we call Showbiz. What up, what up? So good to do a show
Starting point is 00:03:44 and have a guest for a show. It's an honor always to come and do the show and to have a guest and to spend time together. And I hope we do this show forever. I mean, you know, this episode. Like I wish this episode never had to end. It's our last episode. So we have to talk about how our show doesn't work. We don't know what our show is. The podcast we normally do is so difficult because there's no way in.
Starting point is 00:04:20 There's no structure to it, and it's bad. How is it that our show is so bad, but still better than every other show? Yeah. It's this interesting puzzle. And I think I've found the answer, and it's us. Yeah. It's this chemistry between us. And if we could apply that to a show that actually does have a cool hook,
Starting point is 00:04:38 good idea, good structure, but now it's being hosted by these two guys who when they're not even doing a show that even works, it's still good. Yes. Now we're on to something good. And we've done that with Spot and Get Up On This and we are still doing those shows in addition to this one. We're executive supervising producing. And hosting.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And hosting and winning. Hashtag Tiger Blood. Yeah, right? Freaking rock and roll star. And Matt Gurley's here and he has a show called I Was There, Me Too. And that's the one that we are doing today.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Hey, me too, I was there. I like that it's like a kid being a brat is the idea. It's just I was there too. Hey, me too, I was there. That's it. And that's some of your guests huh so and it's okay they're not here you could say it no well me too don't forget about me i'm sorry i'm confused because i thought i came on to do your show we're doing i was there too all right
Starting point is 00:05:36 this is our show now we're do i was there me too that's our show now And you are the first guest Hooray Okay, alright So, but I don't understand If it's just I was there too Who is If that person is responding to nobody That is like a stupid person Who's just saying like
Starting point is 00:05:58 Hey, I was there too Well, nobody said anything Hey, wait a second Me too Yes, exactly So if I'm saying like I was there Someone's saying me too
Starting point is 00:06:04 Now this is like a complete thought Now this this makes sense. Because you have two people just because you're bouncing. It's a full conversation. Yeah. Yeah. We're actually here to talk and have conversations, not to just respond to something that nobody said. Well, it's implied that there's a two-way conversation and I was there too. I don't think you can. Can I give you a tip? Maybe call it the I was there too handbook. Okay. Now I can picture this. You know what I mean? That's a pretty good idea. But if you just go, I was there too, it's like, who are you talking to? Who are you talking to? Crazy person. Are all your guests insane? Okay. First of all, I have not in any way. It can help to be a little insane. Oh yeah. In this biz? I'm not giving you my podcast. I mean, you have to earn it. You don't have to be crazy to work here, but it helps.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Now, Matt. Yeah. You were there. You too. We want to talk about, you know, your involvement. Won't it be fun for you? Like, don't you sit there talking sometimes with all these guys that are like, and then I, like, went to the craft services.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Yeah, more than you know. And you're going, hey, wait. I've also done a lot of stuff. Are none of these people ever going to ask me if I was there or me too? Okay, yeah, I'm up for this. And so what I'm thinking is, let us inside. So it's day one. Well, should we start?
Starting point is 00:07:23 What do you do? What's the normal like is there like a song part oh yeah there's a theme song yeah okay and how's that go how do we do that napalm smells best in the evening it's not worth believing what you heard soylent greens really just a triscuit not a people biscuit take my word it's been said you can't handle the truth but that ain't so how do i know i was there too see that's another problem should be about movies it is about movies i didn't hear anything about movies you didn't say movie apocalypse now there's no popcorn apocalypse now soiling There's no candy There's no soda
Starting point is 00:08:05 A Few Good Men Nobody even Having one of those Chicken apple sausages With mango relish Alright let's hear it Give me that song That song?
Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah Alright hold on Hayes give me a beat Okay Popcorn soda soda, sausage, mango relish Here we go to the movies Cause we got our tickets And it's the star of Wicket
Starting point is 00:08:39 And then what's Wicket, you know? Is it Ewok? Or did you mean Willow? Huh? Because they're both the same person. Willow is Warwick. They both are. You're thinking of Warwick Davis.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah, I know. This is the star of Wicket. See, this is what I know from doing this show, and I don't feel like you guys even have that wealth of knowledge. Yeah, Warwick Davis is Willow. I know. No, but the star of Wicket. He's in Willow.
Starting point is 00:09:02 The star of Wicket. That's in the song. He plays Wicket. He's in Willow. The star of Wicket. That's in the song. He plays Wicket. He's in Willow. Oh, you know what would have been good to rhyme with? One of those cricket players from Million Dollar Arm. Yeah, star of cricket. Yeah, star of cricket.
Starting point is 00:09:20 If you could get those guys. I mean, I don't know if you could get them, but that could be huge. I just don't think there's a call for that. Oh, you can't make that call? Tell you what, you're going to want to get some more phone numbers. The country code and stuff. They're complicated. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:34 I know. The numbers are all crazy over there. So it had movies in it, you may have noticed. It had the word movies in it and a bunch of food. Yeah. Movie food. And I have my tickets. Do you remember that part?
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yes, and the tickets. So you know how I'm getting in. So now we're understanding what the show is. Your show, it almost seems like people are maybe pirating these movies, which is murdering our industry, Matt. So that I don't really like. I don't want to
Starting point is 00:09:57 support that. There's no implication people can rent them. They can buy them at home. Are you covering that? You didn't talk about that either. No, because I want to go to the theater. I want to enjoy the majesty of a theatrical experience. It's not in theaters anymore. Like Apocalypse Now. Try the IFC Center in New York.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Try the new Beverly. Try Cinespace. I'm sorry, Matt. They only play new releases in your town? No. Give me a break. All right. You should like movies if you're going to do this.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Like, think about liking. See them in the original millimeter. This is difficult. Yeah, well, who's making it that? Because Hayes and I are actually really nice guys. So we have the new song. Great. So now what do you normally do after?
Starting point is 00:10:41 You're like, hey, it's me first. Oh, yeah. Do you plug something else you're doing? Not typically. I'll do a little introduction. That'd be a good, I mean, you know, like maybe good. You can. I mean, I probably have, but typically I do it horizontally.
Starting point is 00:10:53 You've got to integrate hearts and seats already. Horizontally. Yeah. I do an introduction to the guest in the movie if there's anything to listen for, anything that they need to know, any information, get them up to speed. Before the guest is in there. We're not going to do that. We're not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:11:06 No, no, I think we should do a private thing. We should just drop it on them. Oh, we do it privately? Well, just like- We make Matt leave? Well, I mean, just like a little thing, like to introduce Matt before he comes in. So you'll be like, what's an example? You'll be like, there's this guy.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Yeah, or I might, like, for instance, I'll say, these are five people that were on the bus in the movie Speed, and I would talk about who they were so you could remember who they were when you saw the film. And so you're not doing it in front of them. No, I do it later. I do it after the fact or privately. Do you want me to leave?
Starting point is 00:11:39 I think you can stay. I'd like him to beat it. Can you beat feet real quick? Yeah, sure. Okay. He's in his car. Hey. Vroom.
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Starting point is 00:12:03 Vroom. Vroom. Vroom. Vroom. Hey guys, welcome to I was there, me too. We have a guest today. Kind of a puny horn. Hey guys, welcome to I Was There, Me Too. We have a guest today. So fun to be here. If I could just plug real quick, I'm on Twitter under my own name and I'm looking to not get verified.
Starting point is 00:12:20 We have a cool guest today. Matt Gurley is here. He will be approaching this episode with something of a strange vibe, which I think is helpful to explain in advance. He is jealous of the show. He wants to see it fail. If you sense any
Starting point is 00:12:38 tension coming from Matt, it is insecurity. It's well-earned. We're taking this show that is essentially his child, and his child is calling us daddy now. And it's going, you're my dad. And it's looking at Matt and going, who is this?
Starting point is 00:12:57 And it's doing him a big favor for us to do this, but he doesn't want it because he's a self-sabotager. So that is something to understand as we go through in this episode. He's afraid of success. Terrified of success. Just doesn't want to have any part of that. So even when people who care about him, like me and Hayes, try to help him, he kind of spits in our eye a little bit.
Starting point is 00:13:18 And we're big enough men to keep nurturing. So let's go into the show. How do we get Matt back? And keep nurturing. So let's go into the show. How do we get Matt back? Well, the last I saw him, he was drag racing with a street gang. I think they were sort of a surrogate family of his.
Starting point is 00:13:37 They were all popping Coronas. And I remember thinking, wow, even though a lot of them are criminals and live outside the law, there's something beautiful about the community they've managed to build with one another. Anyway, I'll text him. It's on its way. The text is on its way Oh, you're back I sent a voice text Okay, great I'm on my way up
Starting point is 00:14:12 Okay, and Matt's in the elevator Bing! And he must have, like, jogged. How's it going, man? Hey, guys, I was down there with me, Familia. Justin Lin was down there. Oh, wow. Directing the drag race, and he was talking about you.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Oh. He said you had a stinky shin. Oh, no. Well, that's, okay. Well, that's better than what Marshall said about me, which was that I smelled like his stinky shin. But it's still not good. Well, whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Man, that rap of his, that guy is sutured to the beat. I mean, I was just sort of imitating it, but it was so easy to capture. Where was his beat coming from? He had like a little Casio keyboard. Okay. I've seen him use those little like hand castanets. Yeah, he definitely tosses those on. Or sometimes he just starts jingling the change in his pockets,
Starting point is 00:15:19 and he's able to kind of find his sound that way. So it's visual, too. There's something about organic sound, Matt. Yeah, I agree with you guys on that. Without his hands. I've seen it. Jiggle the chains. Hands free.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Because he needs them for his flow. We had tools around. So even when he starts the Casio, it's like it's so infectious that all of a sudden Mike is kind of punching the staple gun into the wall and like, and then like somebody else, uh, maybe Justin is,
Starting point is 00:15:51 uh, grabbing like, uh, you know, the school bell that we had to signal the beginning of class. Sure. Bring, bring,
Starting point is 00:16:01 bring, bring, bring, bring, bring, And he has a program so you can, you can just operate it intermittently like that. Oh, yeah. And we're all of a sudden like just in this beautiful soundscape.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah, even as you're getting shredded. Oh, yeah. No, I could appreciate the positive side of it. Make you want to stay? Make you not want to run from it at all? Mm-hmm, yeah. Make me want to be the one where you're so new. at all? Yeah, you make me want to be the one where you use
Starting point is 00:16:23 a new relationship. But honestly, Matt, it's so great to have you on I Was There, Me Too. Thank you. We did a nice intro for you. Okay. And let's, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:40 let's drop in. Day one. You've been through hair and makeup. Shut up, man. All right. Shut up. I'm fucking asking a question. I would never tell a guest to shut up, by the way.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Well, edit it out. It's better. It's better. So you've been through hair and makeup. You walk out. There's a car spinning on a platform. You walk out. There's a car spinning on a platform.
Starting point is 00:17:10 And you go, I just got a riff, baby. Take me there. Did they give you time to look at the car first and think of bits? You're talking about the commercials I do? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Is there another car that you are friends with on something? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:17:27 No. Yeah. Are you like in a hands-on-a-heart-body contest or something we should know about? No. I've never done that. Oh, yeah. There's time to look at the car because they're setting up and I'm out there usually for the camera test or something. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:17:41 You must be cooking up some monster riffs. Can I hear the stuff that they don't let you do? This is good. Let me hear the stuff where the director is like, okay, that's good for us. We'll never use it, but it's funny.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Can I have a beat? Yes. Pow! Pow! Go! Can I have a beat? Yes Sitting here standing in the white void Singing while I'm zagging I'm selling pizzas like I'm the Noid But their cars and their volks wagon Keep going I don't like walking I sure don't like walking.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I sure don't like running. I get in a car and I head on down to this salesperson called Bunnin. Now, Bunnin is an actual car dealership that you'll see off the 101 freeway. And now, this isn't an explanation. This is all in the commercial. Oh, yeah. No, that was part of the beat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Yeah. And this still is. And all of this, this dialogue, everything's in commercial. Oh, yeah. No, that was part of the beat. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, and this still is. And all of this, this dialogue, everything's in there. Oh, yeah. That was part of the beat. It is. This is part of the beat. And then it ends, and then they never use that. It's part of the song as well.
Starting point is 00:19:00 And here we go. And so this was a three-minute commercial yeah that they used more for an industrial like in company yeah and is the crew losing it they're going crazy they left they had to leave a lot of them were behind a glass partition a sound baffle because they were going crazy that part is true did they make you do do a Toyota-thon? Okay, it's Volkswagen. Okay. Well, it seems like it could be helpful regardless. I don't mean to break character
Starting point is 00:19:30 and give you guys notes on what is your own podcast now, but you have to get the title right. I do Volkswagen commercials. Shut up. Okay, I'm sorry. But it's a little insulting. It's just like, yes. And if you're giving notes,
Starting point is 00:19:43 we should be able to give notes too. And it's like, just shut up. Don't tell me to shut up. It's important. Like for one thing, I can't be hawking Toyotas. I'm contractually obligated. Well, I'm not anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I don't do them anymore. What happened? Got shit canned, huh? Probably running your mouth too much. No, I was very respectful on the set. I don't know if you heard, but Volkswagen had a bit of a crisis. Oh, yeah, you did a trick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:16 He switched the gas or something. You mess with too many knobs and stuff. You walk around, you're like, what's this one do? I didn't do anything. Well, and it's showbiz, and you can speak to this a little bit and to this, not to some other shit you're thinking about. It's hurry up and wait. So you've got a lot of downtime. That's true.
Starting point is 00:20:31 You've got to be ready so you're near the car, but they're not ready to film yet. And maybe you start popping the hoods of all these cars, tinkering around inside. And then all of a sudden when people get them, the fuel economy is way different than what they said. You're saying I'm responsible? The emissions are illegal. For all those cars with the emission problems? Like I got my hands on every single one of them. The fuel economy is way different than what they said. You're saying I'm responsible for all those cars with the emission problems? Like I got my hands on every single one of them? Okay, and he admitted it. Wow, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:54 This is juicy. I was there, me too. How fast he admitted it. Do any of your guys end up admitting to crimes on the show? No, that's never happened because it's not meant to go that deep. This isn't like a Barbara Walters or a Marc Maron. This is just a movie show.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Right. I would advise you guys to back off a little. In the theme song he was saying it wasn't a movie show. But now he's agreeing that it is. Okay, yeah. All right. Good kid got his story straight.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Who was it exciting to work with? In the Volkswagen? Yes. Yes. Was Joe Isuzu there? Max Hedrum? Why would Max Hedrum be there? That's not even...
Starting point is 00:21:41 Was that McDonald's or Coca-Cola? Was Captain Cruncher? He's sponsoring web videos now. What do you mean? He's putting up a lot of dough for some sort of web stories. So Cap'n's got deep pockets. You see him there, maybe you sort of get involved,
Starting point is 00:21:58 have him finance one of your projects that you plug at the beginning of your podcast. No, I don't typically plug anything. Okay. And there was usually just me in the commercial, so it wasn't like I was working with any other actors. Oh, you did it all yourself? It's your idea?
Starting point is 00:22:14 You filmed it? No, I'm not saying that. No, I'm not saying that. Oh, is that how movies get made? I just fell for it. I'll tell you, when I do projects like these, I'm very excited to work with every single member of the crew. Well, I am too.
Starting point is 00:22:28 When I say who is exciting to work with, maybe stories of friends you made. I actually try to learn people's names when I'm there. First names. I would just call them a catch-all The Commercial. It's just me and The Commercial. To me, they are human beings. And even the people in post.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Vinny Goombots or whatever. All my friends. Yeah. No, I made friends. I thought you were talking about other actors. You see, the other thing is you're not making it entirely clear. And I think one thing as an interviewer, you need to tee it up. You need to set up proper setups.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Hey. I'm sorry, but I won't be silenced. I care about this podcast and I don't want to see it just thrown together sloppy like that. Do what he said. Talk about Vinnie Goombots and Johnny Stunard and frickin' Sergio. There was nobody of those names. Gabagool or whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Fucking do the thing. I did have Johnny Ross B from Goodfellas on. I was there too. Seems like a stereotyping thing. And then did he? Oh, like these are like, you know, crewmen, blue collar guys. They're not like mafia, you know, like mafia guys. It's so clear that he only cares about talent, right?
Starting point is 00:23:42 Because it's like, I did the commercials myself. And it's like, as if I don't know that it takes a village to make a commercial. I'm sorry, Matt. You could sell that line somewhere else because I was born at night, but I wasn't born last night. Okay?
Starting point is 00:23:58 So what? I was born at night, Matt. But I'm lucky for you. It just so happens I was born at night, Matt. But I'm lucky for you. It just so happens it wasn't last night. Why don't you just say I wasn't born yesterday? See? Great note.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Yeah, that really paints a picture. And people don't picture me being born at night. What does that get you to have someone picture you being born at night? The moon. It's kind of romantic. Yeah. Are you born outside? Yeah. In what context?
Starting point is 00:24:32 Like a campfire? See, these are questions I would follow up with. See, now that's actually interesting. Thank you. Campfire. And maybe I'm like part of the climax of a ghost story. Is that why you don't like ghosts? And when I'm born, I have like a hook hand.
Starting point is 00:24:51 You know what I mean? And it's like, and the hitchhiker's still in these woods. And then, and I'm just freaking swinging it around. Wiping it everywhere. Yeah, I like that. That could really scare some campers. That does work. What's one of the setups that you want?
Starting point is 00:25:10 Like, if you have all these great setups that you do, like, for questions. Well, I'll typically ask someone, like, you know, like, it depends. I mean, it's unique to every movie, but certain ones I'd be like, what was it like to have squibs on, you know, like, to get shot in a movie? Did that hurt? Yeah. It did? Why would you get shot in the commercial? Well, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Right, okay. You should have shot it. You'd tinker with those cars. Volkswagen lost a lot of money. I guess what I would ask myself is, what was it like to work on a big white Void? Because I have a really great story about that. They shoot those in heaven?
Starting point is 00:25:45 That was my story. No, go ahead. Well, the first time we did it, they were really anal about walking on the white because it would get dirty, so they'd make you wear little booties. But by the second commercial, they realized they had to do everything digitally,
Starting point is 00:25:57 so they would really let you dirty it up. See, there, great story. Oh, yeah, and so you're rolling around in the mud. We don't like talking, you know, it's like gross. We don't want to make this show gross like that. Talking about dirty feet? Yeah. I thought that was a great story.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Disgusting feet? I'm just realizing that I have to throw up. No, that had a payoff. Yes, but the payoff was making people throw up. Are you trying to get wrapped back around to this stinky shin thing that you know I'm sensitive about? It seems like you are pretty sensitive about it. I just said I'm sensitive about it.
Starting point is 00:26:32 No, I know, but I didn't even intend that and you're already bringing it back up. It's like get over it. Yeah, it's just like I said I'm sensitive about it. Then you're like it seems like you're sensitive about it. Okay. It's like, okay, thanks, Matt. Thanks for joining the conversation, Matt. Big contribution.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Well, hopefully everyone's done throwing up now. Yeah, from the frigging stinky dirty feet story. What about your stinky shin? That's grosser. It's grosser in here. It does stink. It's not my stinky shin. Marshall has a stinky shin.
Starting point is 00:27:00 His whole body smells like a stinky shin. That's not what Justin Lin said. And he's the source of the rhyme. Not doing the rhyme, but the actual rhyme. I guess that's true. His name is in the rhyme. He might remember better than me. I was crying so hard that I maybe didn't hear some of the lyrics.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Well, I didn't mean to make you feel bad. That certainly seemed like you did. So, you know, you're more than just that Toyota commercial. You've done two others, right? Or how many did you do? Well, I did a lot. I did over 30.
Starting point is 00:27:35 30. Yeah. Seems like too many. Over three years. Feels desperate. Just like, why not one and just be like, let's just keep using this one instead of this. Well, that's not my call. I don't have any say in that.
Starting point is 00:27:54 In fact, many of them aren't shown in certain areas. Instead of being like, let me do it this way now. Like begging for like, oh, I got another idea. You guys are dicks. Maybe I'm like kissing the car. You guys are dicks. I got another idea. You guys are dicks. Maybe I'm like kissing the car.
Starting point is 00:28:03 You guys are dicks. I have to say, I feel like I'm one more insult away from just walking out of here. It's funny, you know, you're saying that we're dicks, and in the meantime, you haven't asked us about any of our projects. We've been here for how long has this been going, Sam? Yeah, how long? About 45 minutes. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Jesus Christ. And I was there, me too, in some stuff. Did you ever think of that? But typically the host doesn't do that. I will. Yeah, but you were just saying how rude it was that none of your guests do it. Okay, let's do it. And Matt, it's anything but typical.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Oh, jeez. Hayes, you wrote on Eastbound and Down, right? I don't like to talk about that. You're writing on Ghosted, Sean? Yeah. And? How's that process for you? Any dirt?
Starting point is 00:28:52 I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about it, even if I was, but I certainly wouldn't tell you. What do you guys want to talk about then? Give me some credits. We did Arthur with Russell Brand. You did? What did you do on there? Yeah, we were the rocks that his scotch was on.
Starting point is 00:29:08 We got in little ice cube costumes, got inside his drink, and then we'd sort of whisper alts to him. The idea, yeah, some of it was kind of, but the idea was that we were giving him his powers of being a scamp. You were like a Cyrano de Bergerac kind of thing for him? Yeah, he was drinking little bits of us, and we were these sort of scamp. Like you were like a Cyrano de Bergerac kind of thing for him? Yeah, like he was drinking little bits of us and we were like these sort of scamp spirits. We're almost the id. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And what we do is inspire his cad-like behavior. Yes. And it was actually quite clever because when you watch the original Arthur, there's no inspiration for any of what he's doing. It just seems like he's hardwired to have that personality. But this, it's explaining. It's kind of like how everybody loves the Metachlorians in Charlottesville. You know?
Starting point is 00:29:58 You're Arthur's Metachlorian? The first Arthur is one of my favorite all-time movies. But they never really explain why he's doing that. It's nonsense. Look how they rebooted Halloween, and they give him an origin story, Michael Myers, and it diminishes it. It takes it away. No, I watched the first one, and I'm like, why is this guy crazy? Yes, he's crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Why is he doing that? He's crazy. He's evil. Now, if I saw him take a big sip of like a Gatorade before, and then they fucking zoom in on the Gatorade, and I'm in there going like, hey, maybe go do this, freaking stab him with a knife. Then I go, okay, well, now I understand his motivation.
Starting point is 00:30:37 His Gatorade told him this good idea. How did you guys get the role of these ice guys? The ice? How did we get it? Audition, baby. Killed it in the room. How did you guys get the role of these ice guys? The ice? How did we get it? Yeah. Audition, baby. Killed it in the room. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Hayes, tell them. We did, like, sort of a lifelong. Sorry, let me give you a beat. Roll up to the room. Throw out my sides. Read my lines. Split their sides. Go to the room Throw out my sides Read my lines Split their sides Go to the set
Starting point is 00:31:08 Kill the job Do another movie Keep doing more Keep going Have a huge career With lots of fans Get on the billboard Go on the show
Starting point is 00:31:21 Bring up me I was talking about me and my friend his name is sean he's a handsome boy keep going on that part oh okay it's kind of like the the bong was like kind of the end you said you said keep going but you said um yeah so you kind of can picture that The only thing he said, borg. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Yeah, so you kind of can picture that. And we were hanging out with him off set. You didn't ask about this, but it would have been a good question. Yes, I was getting to that.
Starting point is 00:31:55 And we were sort of feeding him a lot of that. We were just talking about some thought experiments we had been doing that he has kind of adopted now in his life about how voting is a nonce and corporations are blimey and like all these things that now he has like really put out there. You guys gave him those like cocky. These were just things that we had kind of been talking about at the time that like voting is a bit of a bloody nonce. If you really look into it, voting at its core is a nonce. Yeah, I do agree with that. And some of these big corporations that are like, oh, we're helping, you know, like we're making Coke for everyone.
Starting point is 00:32:35 They don't have any Coca-Cola. Like what Russell really took to heart that we explained was they're kind of blimey. Yeah, corporations can be blimey and they can be a right codger sometimes. Yeah, like they don't chuff me. See, yes. This is, yes. This is nice. I'm not getting chuffed.
Starting point is 00:32:53 This is a nice part of the podcast. See, yes. Like you get it. But like this was like our sort of thing that we had going at the time and now he's like everywhere with us, which I think is great. I'm like super proud of him
Starting point is 00:33:02 and I love him. Yeah, and I love him too. Well, so you guys know what it's like to have something of yours co-opted. Yeah, we were just saying it's good. We love it. No, I understand that. I understand that. I'm just saying, but not everybody feels that way,
Starting point is 00:33:15 especially when I feel like the product is maybe taking a bit of a dip. Like imagine he stopped doing what? Hey, Matt. Yeah. Quit while you're ahead. Sorry. Quit while you're ahead, man. This is just really difficult.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I have ownership over this. I care about it. Like, even this version of the podcast, we're only one quarter of it is talking about the work we've done. Let's take it way back. How'd you get your idea for our podcast? Well, it was given to me. Oh. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:42 By Jeff Ulrich. Do you guys remember Jeff Ulrich? I mean, yeah. Head of Earwolf? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Rich guy? Yeah. Sits in an unusual way?
Starting point is 00:33:54 What do you mean? Just his physicality is unique. I don't know about that. He's kind of like sitting and lying down at the same time. How's that possible? He's just as relaxed as you can be while sitting in a way where it's like, is this guy going to fall asleep?
Starting point is 00:34:10 Do you remember him? That is my question. We're describing him really well. Yeah, I remember him. I remember him differently. How do you think he sits? Just like a human being. Yeah, nobody said he was a human. And maybe you ask Sam if he remembers him too. Sam, do you think he sits? Just like a human being. Yeah, nobody said he wasn't human.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Although. And maybe you ask Sam if he remembers him, too. Sam, do you remember? Do you ever, on your show, speaking of human beings, do you ever ask the engineers if they were there, me too? I heard some of the Cubs were, like, remarking on how he sat during the World Series. Who's that guy in the front row? Those are expensive tickets.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Sam, do you have any I Was There Tos? No, I don't, but I do know during the World Series, Cody emailed Jeff asking to buy one of his tickets, and he gave him a quote, and then later sold it online for half of that amount,
Starting point is 00:35:00 which I always thought was pretty funny. Which always made me happy. That could explain some of what's going on with Cody. That could really get to the bottom of it. That's about how long we've been having this problem with Cody is dating back to the last World Series. His personality got, I would say, 35% worse around the last World Series. What was the final sale price?
Starting point is 00:35:22 worse around the last World Series. What was the final sale price? I think he offered the ticket to Cody for he wanted like $13,000. And then he sold it on Facebook I think for like $7,000. So Cody's like, I totally would have
Starting point is 00:35:38 paid $7,000 for it. Does that include airfare or that's just the ticket? In a great Cody moment, he wanted Jeff to just give him the tickets because he had a lot of – his logic was he can afford it. He thought he would just give him two free tickets. And he knows exactly how much money Cody has. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And he knows how much money he has. They're both playing three-dimensional chess there. That's clear. Yeah. Boy, oh, boy. See, you get into, like, good stuff into good stuff when you really ask people questions. You really learn things. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:36:07 You don't have to tell me that. I was the one that asked that question. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but I think I was the one who was like, you better ask it right now. Yeah, right. That's right. Well, I mean, Hayes was the metaphorical ice cube in your scotch glass, sort of inspiring the good question. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:36:24 You're a bit of an Arthur. Aren't you? Can you be sometimes? Can you admit that? Tell us about your most epic Arthur moment. You mean like just when I'm drinking heavily? But you're like doing, you're like pinching
Starting point is 00:36:42 bums. Or maybe it's a friggin' maid's's frigging bum is like sticking out of her little skirt. You got like a leaf blower and you're blowing up the maid's skirt. One time there was a bird up the apples in Paris and I asked her out for some bubble and squeak all while drinking. So I guess that would be my most Arthurian moment. And see, now I'm right shoved see do you see how good the show can be
Starting point is 00:37:10 that did seem to click for the first time in 45 minutes like we had a nice moment there how long is your show normally about 45 minutes to an hour okay so we're like in we're almost finished which is great for us but you said at the top of the show you didn't want this show we're almost finished, which is great for us.
Starting point is 00:37:28 But you said at the top of the show you didn't want this show to end. Well, I was being a little cheeky. I've got some Arthur in me, too. And I was saying that this episode, I wish it could last forever, only because it is the last episode of the show. Of I Was There, Me Too? No, that show is going to be, yeah, we're doing that. We're now going to be doing three other podcasts. At least.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Because we got to freaking get up on this. We're getting everyone up on all the hot new stuff. What are you getting people up on this week? This week I'm getting people up on the beach for summer. This week I am getting people up on the beach for summer. This is a place where people can hang out and you can bring food, like bring whatever food you want. One hot tip, towel. Yes, because it's hot.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Yeah. The floor, the beach floor. I am getting people up on music, listening to like a nice arrangement of notes for summer, like the idea of summer music. What about you? What are some of your get-up-ons? Well, they're making macaroni in a wheel shape now. And for people who, like me, can't swallow the traditional tubes, this wheel can be really nice. It's easier to separate if you've only got I mean I have one main
Starting point is 00:38:50 tooth and then the other teeth are sort of just supporting that so I can only put pressure on that one and I'm able to slice each spoke of the wheel and kind of flatten it out. See you've done the same thing to his podcast. You need something new and exciting and hip.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Like, iOmega has a three terabyte hard drive out now, so that's really cool. What? Shut up, dude. Do a real one. Shut up. That's one. Do a real one.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Don't try to ruin the show on purpose. Do something that people will want. do a real one shut up that's one do a real like don't like try to ruin the show on purpose do something that like people will people would want to get up okay for instance outer space or whatever
Starting point is 00:39:32 Earwolf has these new text stickers for Apple that you can text all three of us I think are one Sammy too
Starting point is 00:39:40 I think right yeah so you could text likenesses little drawings of us. Because we're hosts. This is worse than the iOmega. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:39:50 People can text me? Yeah. And they can have me saying whatever they want? A little picture of you. Yeah. And then it's me and the phone? Yeah. It's a drawing of you.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I'm in the phone saying anything? Uh-huh. And now they have me in their phone storage. A little drawing of you. Shudder to think what Jeff Hallrich is making me say. He's texting me to Sammy Sosa or whatever. This sucks. This sucks.
Starting point is 00:40:31 This is honestly becoming one of the right blimey corporation. It is, like, you know, like, the corporation has gotten so out of control in the last few years. It's pure wankery. Yes. The corporation is a wanker. And it's not me best mate. I'll just say that. I couldn't agree more. Matt, P.T. Barnum said something interesting.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Which is that every great idea begins as a movement, evolves into a corporation. Uh-huh. No. And devolves into a racket. And you don't mean a tennis racket. What's your point? Where do you think Earwolf is?
Starting point is 00:41:22 What do you mean? Like financially? Come on, man. Where do you think it is on Like financially? Come on, man. What do you think it is on that spectrum? Wake up, Matt. Hey. It ain't a movement. So you think it's a wrap-up?
Starting point is 00:41:31 It's maybe a bowel movement. Okay. Okay. See, I'm not going to join in on this. Even I agree with that. I like this company. I work for this company. I'm not going to have you defame this company.
Starting point is 00:41:42 That was an Arthur moment. He sneaks out every now and then. How do you end the show? Well, I thank my guests. I ask them if they have anything they want to plug. Bye. I thank them every time. I'm a horny girl wolf. This has been an Earwolf production. Executive produced by Scott Aukerman, Colin Anderson, and Chris Bannon. For more information and content, visit Earwolf.com.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Ow. That was a HeadGum Podcast.

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