Hollywood Handbook - Titus Welliver, Our Bosch Friend (Live from VultureFest LA)

Episode Date: November 30, 2021

The Boys talk to TITUS WELLIVER about the Bosch spinoff series Bosch: Legacy live from VultureFest LA.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. So I get a phone call From Jesse David Fox Okay Vulture From Vulture From Vulture Post of Good One

This was a sad call He's weeping He's crying Vulture Fest is in trouble He says We have to cancel it Unless you can save it. JDF, I say.

Anything you ever wanted. What can I do? You know that. And you know that, Jesse. Anything. This guy's practically my best man. Yes. But you have to come here. You have to do it in Los Angeles. It's got to happen in LA. I'm not practically my best man. Yes. But you have to come here.

You have to do it in Los Angeles. It's gotta happen in LA. I'm not going to New York. Yuck. Yes. You have to put me up. Obviously, like, I live here, but I still need to be, like, on site the night before. I'm gonna need accommodations. Yes. Should really be at the Roosevelt, I say. Yeah. Gotta be

outdoors. It's safer. So, build a stage. Yeah. Oh, and one more thing. You gotta get me Titus. Welcome to Hollywood Handbook dives into

Hollywood Homicide with Bosh. A coming together of two LA institutions. Thank you so much. Homicide with Bosch, a coming together of two LA institutions. Thank you so much for being here today.

Title came out fine. I wanted it to be longer. We went back and forth. We had a really good long title for it. Jesse said it wouldn't fit on Twitter. Yeah. So we had to get back in the lab. This one's fine. It doesn't tell the whole story.

Yeah. The original title we suggested was Hey, I Have an Idea colon Let's Put on a Show starring Hollywood handbooks Hayes and Sean and of course their beloved fans.

And they'll meet Bosch. And Bosch will be there, and Bosch will be there, two different Bosches, parentheses. Yes. One Bosch is the TV show Bosch, one Bosch is the dog Bosch.

That's a good idea. So that was the original title. Yeah. It's our first live show in two years. Thank you. Thank you. We're not rusty. We have been training.

Yeah. You probably already feel it. We're as sharp as we've ever been. Maybe sharper. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The entire time, just sharpening the axe. So I do...

I think we need to bring out the guest we have to no we have to talk to you guys we have to no it's actually good to bring the guest in yeah before he comes out of course you clap for him of course when we bring out the other Bosh. Yeah. We don't want to scare this guy. He's an animal. So please do not clap or woohoo or laugh or anything to freak him out. And actually, especially for people who are listening to this as a podcast, if you could do us a favor and not laugh or clap for the rest of the show, even though we're doing a good job and being funny, that would actually help just so the dog stays calm. So if anybody hears it

and goes, hey, it sounds like they died. The audience didn't like it. It's actually out of respect for the dog. Yeah, that's for the best. Because he will bite everyone here. He's insane. He will take his time with each one. Yeah. The dog is very unwell. He shows you your organs

before you die. Oh, he's a sick man yeah uh he's been training as well throughout the pandemic yeah it's been pretty gruesome um but anyway uh i'm very excited we have here special guy very special man you love him he was in a lot of shows before this he was on lost he. He is Bosh. He said in Gone Baby Gone, Amanda literally roasted. We all remember that scene. And now he's here and he's gonna help us win you over.

Titus Welliver. Titus Welliver. So I want to... Okay, before we get into this... Please don't tear it up and throw it out. Before we get into this, so the first bullet says sandwich language.

That's for the end. We talk about the sandwich language at the very end. I know it's first, but you see how it's written on their end. So we don't talk about that until the end. And then under that is the key messaging. We are going to want to stay on point for this entire show. Like Bosh, we have a job to do

and we do it well. And the job is to get through all of the key messaging. But don't rush. Don't rush. Go point by point. Go in order. Absolutely go in order. But take your time. Make it yours. Make it yours.

I want you to feel comfortable. It should feel really natural. Is this thing on? Oh, it is. Oh, yeah. Titus, the key messaging, it's a little bit, it's our sign that says get off your ass and knock on doors, huh? That's life, man.

That's life. But what it says instead is the title of the spinoff which premieres on imdb tv amazon's premium free streaming service in 2022 and the title of course is and this is big we're announcing this title right now we're the first people to have it and the title is return of the son of bosh yes the revenge of bosh he's back back. Am I missing something? Return of the son of Bosch. I'm coming together of two LA institutions. That's it.

And that was all you, right? That's your creative. You don't get involved. You let the writers do their work, but the title is Titus. That was my call. They let you put the star on top of the tree. Titus, that was actually a test.

To see if you would remain on the key messaging. I'm on it. I was on it, right? The title is... Please don't clap or laugh because I'll freak out and run off the stage. Bite everyone. Titus will bite everyone. It's been known to happen.

It was a fake title and none of you noticed the title is bosh legacy that's true bosh legacy i know it it sounds like a fucking vampire show yes uh no not really i think it's good bosh colon colon legacy. Bosch colon. Bosch colon. Bosch colon legacy. Yes. That's a whole different show. Yeah, yeah. Just visualizing it, is something interesting? A colon with three dots.

You know, I think it should be in Braille. I mean, you know, and really get tricky. Accessibility, yes. Very few titles are in Braille these days. That's important. I have sort of a joke. Accessibility, yes. Very few titles are in Braille these days. That's important. I have sort of a joke.

Bosh colon legacy. You could shoot the whole thing on a very small camera. Don't laugh. It's like a half joke. Yeah, please don't laugh. I'm going to bite somebody. Titus, we want to bring out another guest in a second. Do you want to do that now?

Let's get it out of the way because he's got to be freaking out. My fucking drama teacher or something like that. Is it? This is your life, Titus. He's the one who taught you to stay in the moment. I get scared. Yeah. I live too much in the moment.

He's something of a drama teacher. He is bringing the drama everywhere he goes. Yeah. He's spilling the tea. He's something of a drama teacher. He is bringing the drama everywhere he goes. Yeah, he's spilling the tea. This is a dog. This is Sean's dog. Sean's dog is famously named Bosh. People thought,

what's going to get people out? Live theater is in trouble. What's going to get people out to come see a live show? Why risk your health, your family's health? Yes. We need to give you a pretty good reason. It is seeing a dog for about 45 seconds. Yes.

And seeing a man meet a dog who is named the same thing as a character. The name of the character the man plays on the show. Yes. I mean, is that not moving tickets? I think it did. That's chaos theory, man. Yes. I mean, is that not moving tickets? I think it did. That's chaos theory, man. Yes. So let's

bring him out. We have Chef Kevin here with Bosh the dog. This is Bosh. Don't. Tennis clap. Tennis clap. Thank you. Hey, Bosh. Bosh. Okay. This is Bosh. Everyone's being very cool.

Everyone's being very casual. Don't look. Look somewhere else. Look somewhere else. Be like talking to each other. Don't act like this. See? See how he's getting very nervous and distracted?

Act like this isn't happening at all. See how mad he is? Oh my gosh, look at this beast. He's freaking out. What a psycho. Okay, Bosh. Did you get your picture taken? Good boy. Yes. Okay.

Alright. We love you, Bosh. He can go. He can go. He can go. Magic. Magic. Magic. In the heart of Hollywood. It's my show. Yes. That's a cool dog. Now you can show. Yes. That's a cool dog. Yay! Now you can clap.

Now you can clap for the dog. That's the last one. You get one. Thank you so much. Let's get back on the key messaging. Please. We're so far off the key messaging right now, I'm sick to my stomach.

Bosch Legacy premieres on IMDb TV. That's the only one we have said. Yes. Amazon's premium free streaming service in 2022 where are we at on casting for that oh how are we doing i know where this is leading how how um how we look in in terms of like a shameless discovery like like where are we are you in the room for those i'm in i'm in the room for those sessions? I'm in the room for those sessions. And your chemistry is

something like this you hope when you're in that room? Yeah. I'm an observer. I'm like a CIA spook in the room. Walk me through it production wise. Where are we at? How much of this is in the can? Just ask your question. I know where this is leading.

You got room for two more? Exactly. Because even people are saying like, oh, it's like fully wrapped. It's like shot out. Like we're done. We're talking to these IMDB people in suits and they're going, well, we shot it all. It's all filmed. We have it all. You know, we

spent a lot of money. We're already in editing. And I'm going, let's talk to the real artists who know if you find something like this lightning in a bottle I know I don't care what it costs you go reshoot that thing page one rewrite to get the boys in town

you know there I mean sky's the limit I say we do a post production you know we've just got to figure it out we just got to figure it out that's exactly what I told them we just have to figure it out. We've just got to figure it out. That's exactly what I told them. We just have to figure this out. But we'll make this happen. We will make this happen.

Yes, thank you. We're already on IMDb. Yeah. So to get to IMDb TV... You literally... I'm just saying that three times really fast. I still struggle with it. I don't have to say...

It's actually bad to say the name of the network on the show. So that's the one thing I don't have to know how to say. No. I think it takes people out of it. If I'm on the show. So that's the one thing I don't have to know how to say. No. I think it takes people out of it. If I'm on the show, and I will be, and I keep talking about how like, hey, I was just watching IMDb TV last night. IMDb TV, IMDb TV, IMDb TV.

Then I feel like people are going to start looking for the remote. You know what I mean? But if I'm saying like, tough stuff. Yeah. Yeah, baby. If I'm going like, yeah, unfortunately, I had to punch that guy.

Now you're in the show. Now you're reaching for the remote to turn up the volume. Yeah. Yeah. Big time. Which is good.

That's like, that's very important for ratings now because like with streaming and stuff, it's different how they evaluate and now it's how loud you watch it.

Yeah. People are really paying attention to. Yes, you get extra points for that. And the residuals ain't bad either. Well, we're not going to have that conversation up here. You didn't get cut in. You didn't get the...

I don't get what you guys get, no. That's the key messaging, actually, is talk about Titus' deal points. How much of the show is he on? Son of a bitch, you got that in there, didn't you? Yeah, they wanted to walk through the contract. I thought these people don't care, but no,

they want a number on it. The more you watch, the better you feel. IMDb TV is available as a standalone app on many connected TVs and devices. Many. Yeah. Many, many.

So computers, iPads, Kindles. You could keep listing. I mean, we're not going to make them list every device. It's many. Yeah. Including Fire TV, Roku, and mobile. Yeah, we'll keep listing them, obviously.

We're going to say them. This is shameless promotion. Both Prime and non-Prime members can watch IMDb TV programming for free through Prime Video. Talk about the show. What's everything that happens in it? You want me to give up the whole season?

I would like you to do the theme song first. Scene by scene, we want you to walk through it. We don't have one yet. tight ass we don't and every you know we had the caught a ghost that everybody loves that bosh theme yeah i've heard i've had people come up to me in airports and it's their ringtone on their phone wow i have a suggestion you You know how in Us, they did this kind of scary version of that old song of I Got Five on it? Yeah. What about a scary version of Thrift Shop?

That'd work. Could that be cool? It goes like, you know. It's a little bit creepy. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. I'm gonna pop some tats. You know? I mean, does that get you ready for Sam?

Damn. That's a cold ass honky. No theme song yet, but that's an idea. Okay. We just did it. Tough to top. Tough to top the boss. My bosses are here.

They're taking notes. You never know. The show follows Harry Bosch after leaving the LAPD as a detective as he gets his state license as a private investigator. You see him studying, cracking the books. He's in the stacks. Big time. A lot of it is reading, I'm told.

There's a lot of reading. No, there's a lot of... For some reason this season, I spent a lot of time on the telephone. Okay. Relatable. We're all on our phones. COVID production. Instead of having people in the same room,

people are mostly on the phone. They're talking on the phone. That's an acting class unto itself. That can be pretty powerful. Phone acting. Talk about this. Please speak on phone acting. Talk about this. Give us a lesson. Please speak on phone acting. What's the secret?

How do you pretend to be hearing it? Yeah. I'm schizophrenic. It's easy. You just have to look interested. Okay. Right.

Can we see that? Can we see the sunglasses? Can we see that? Can we see interest? Pretend you're on the phone with me instead of doing a live show. I'll fall off my chair if I take these glasses. Okay. I'm taking a call. Okay. Bosh. Can we see that? Pretend you're on the phone with me instead of doing a live show.

Okay. Bosh. Bosh. Yeah. Yeah. Did he say when? Okay, thanks. Wow. But here's, thanks. Wow. But here's the thing.

Here's the funny thing about it. There's a lot of cats on Twitter that are offended by the phone etiquette on our show. They go, nobody ever says goodbye. You just hang up the phone. And I've actually got sucked into Twitter conversations with people about this shit.

And I suddenly realized, this is the most banal, ridiculous conversation I've ever had. This is a cop who's just on the move. Just give me the facts. Okay, you got the lab report. Thanks. He says thank you. Sure. He doesn't say goodbye.

I heard it. Hit my ear a little weird, actually. But it's kind of true. But in the new show, Bosh Legacy, I made every attempt to say goodbye when I did a phone call. We're adding bye. We brought the goodbyes to the people.

Yeah. I've been brought to my knees by these people. In the cuts I've seen, the byes get longer and longer. He started saying bye. Yeah. Bye. You say bye first longer and longer. He started saying bye. Yeah. Bye. You say bye first.

Yes. I don't want to say bye. You say bye. Well, no, just say it. Just say it. Bye. But if I could double back, you know, I know you're not necessarily a fan of the podcast, but in a way you stumbled right into it, which is when you do notice that you're having the

most banal, ridiculous conversation of your life bring it live on the show yes yes that's all we do that's all we do it's a twitter argument with with complete moron yes and then we just take it to the people we say you be the judge well you know they judged and i broke yeah i broke like i was in a leg trap man that doesn't feel good man that's not that's not the tightest i know you changed uh yeah you used to be out cracking skulls if people tried to say goodbye on the phone no yeah no i've just i've lost it i've lost all my edge i don't know what it is i I think COVID beat me down. It's been a hard couple years. Yeah.

It beat me down. Talking to myself too much. Way too much time on social media. You have a fake account that you use to compliment yourself. Is that right? We all have it. It's fine. Everybody's got it.

Maybe you don't use it as much as I do. That's not on the key messaging. We want to say okay okay that's right i'll say i'll say this you don't i just to be clear you're not implying that the trolls on twitter started covid as a weaponized campaign to make you say goodbye on the show i don't think that's a big reach. That's making sense? Trolls have a lot of power these days. They sure do. The key to that shit,

which I love to do, when people are like, you're a leftist Hollywood liberal, and I'm like, okay, yeah. And I own firearms. Would you like to see one? I don't even respond. Yeah, would you like to see one?

Come to my fucking house, baby. Come to the wrong house at the wrong time. It's just to block them and not say anything? They go ape shit. And then what they do is they jump on to a friend's account because they think they'll get me that way. Yeah.

And then I block that person and then that person ends up circuitously trying to get a message to me to say, that's my boy. He's a dick. I'm really sorry. I don't share his opinions, but please don't block me.

It's fun. And then that one's blocked. And I'm like, ding. Everyone gets blocked. And then finally it's just you alone on an island yeah and i got no followers that's what it's gonna be that's the dream tightest well ever zero followers this season ringing my sad little bell in the universe just like me You are working with one-time enemy, hotshot attorney, Money Chandler, casting there, recasting conversations, like where are we at with that role?

Obviously, we might want to go a tiny bit younger. Maybe it's two people instead of just one lawyer. Two men. A blonde-haired guy from Brockton. Yeah. Two guys who could kind of be brothers. Isn't that what we need right now? Or a lumberjack from like East Haven.

Mm-hmm. East Haven lumberjack. Just what we need, I think, in the national conversation is instead of this woman powerful lawyer, how about two tall straight white guys both from you know kind of nice background yeah yeah yeah and just finally getting their voice heard on television could that be good that could be good that's the next meeting i think since we're going to open it all up why not kind of yeah... Yeah. Yeah. Let's open it all up. Back to the lab.

Yeah, we are starting from scratch on this one. Oh, yeah. But then you would have to arm wrestle Mimi Rogers. And she's one of the toughest broads in Hollywood. I'll tell you that. Yeah. She will whip your ass. Okay.

She is tough. I would love that. I won't show up. I would... You'd make a good deal of money to get your ass whipped by Mimi Rogers. I would I would appreciate that so much You have a daughter In real life You have multiple daughters

And you have a daughter on the show as well But you think he should have a son Two sons I don't even Is that your idea? That's your idea Jesus I was going to say that The Seymour Csell look-alike

and frank serpico i mean are we fucking kidding young i get it guys i get it not young seymour but like no but i you know you've gotten that before oh yeah all the time i mean you can't walk down the damn street out here without saying seymour seymour are you kidding me people don't even know who john cassavetes is anymore. It's a sad. Can you believe that? It's sad. It's making me sick. They're like, Paw Patrol. Get the fuck out. Get out of here, Paw Patrol.

Sumer's in there, Paw Patrol. Sit down and watch a woman under the influence. Just turn off Paw Patrol and put on The Killing of a Chinese Bookie. The long version. I love these guys, by the way. I'm so happy to be here.

Yes. Thank you. That father-daughter relationship. It's not working for you. Well, let's talk about it. Let's get into it. There's a lot of speculation, obviously, about Maddie's future and what path she's going to take.

And we have some ideas. Maybe you could tell us how Harry Bosch would react if she started a podcast. Would that be cool? No. You wouldn't like that? He's not a podcast kind of guy. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Let me give you this. I mean, he would watch and listen to your shit and dig it, but... Well, because it's jazz. Or Michael Connelly. Because this is jazz, guys. Or the murder book, you know, Michael Connelly's murder podcast. Harry would dig on that. But what I'm giving you is a scenario where Maddie comes home she's stressed she's upset she needs fatherly

advice she says dad i'm supposed to do an ad for a special instagram cereal this week they require a personal testimonial but they forgot to send me the free box of their product do i lie and say it was yummy like this is stakes this is drama that's a four-page scene right there yeah yeah what's the advice well you know harry he's righteous he'd be like no honey you can't do it if you don't have if you haven't tasted or sampled this product you got to tell the truth and just say i can't put my face to something that i haven't tasted or sampled this product, you got to tell the truth and just say, I can't put my face to something that I haven't tried. Wow. Whoa. Yeah, that's a quarter page thing.

Did it pay $75? Yeah, it's still. Still? Okay. Okay. No, he's just too, you know, Harry's, he's straight as a die. Yeah. Okay, so you're not loving the stuff we're pitching for Maddie.

You know, forget Maddie. There's too much baggage there. Let's say you're my dad. Can you tell me you're proud of me? I am so proud of you. I love your show. Wow, you listen. And I love what you've done with your life. I love how

you represent this family. You're my favorite child. And I hate the neighbor's children. I hate all children in the world but you. You're the only child I love. That's all I ever wanted to hear from you. That's all you're getting out of me.

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So we have. We got three clips we're going to play. Got anything new? Well, we have something new. We're saving something new for the end. A teaser, okay. And here's where I do my job. When we're doing the new thing,

if I see you with your phone out recording the exclusive new clip, I'm going to stick both Boshes on you. That's sacred. Yeah, don't do that. Because they'll confiscate your phone. This is worse than Disney.

You see some of these characters dressed in dark clothing wearing shades? That one right there. Yes. That's the one? I know that dude. We served time

in San Quentin together and he is a cold stone killer and a phone grabber. He's known as the phone collector. He's known as the phone collector. Yeah.

You like Jean Reno, the professional? He's the phone collector. He wasn't even, and he wasn't even convicted of anything. He broke into prison because he heard there was a phone in there. Yeah, he just wanted to just roll in prison for a bit. Seems like my kind of guys.

Yeah. So we'll play some clips, and we can just kind of pitch on it. We can find some of the mistakes that were made. Never too late to punch it up, right? There's a lot of casting stuff that I'm sure you're going to want to talk about. Huge casting issues that might come up. Yeah.

Just stuff that feels false, you know what I mean? But as we are, that's my daily battle with these people. Wouldn't Bosh be hanging out with Hazard Shod? But let's watch the clips and see because because some of this, I think, works. Judge for yourself.

There's some great stuff in there. And there's a lot to work on, which is why we do it. Yeah. So, yeah. Can we watch a clip? See the first clip? Can we watch a clip, please? Can we see it?

You heard the name La Mayerista? Sounds like a gastrointestinal ailment. Like La Turista. How about Melinda Morales? Refresh my memory? 75-year-old grandmother you're trying to evict. Drugs were being dealt out of her apartment. Not by her. Her grandson, who doesn't even live there.

LAPD arrested him on the property. Okay, so mission accomplished, which is why you brought in the new manager. To clean up the building, yes. So why evict the old lady? Violated her lease. We don't tolerate excessive tenant interaction with law enforcement. Cash 22. Your manager calls LAPD about the dealers.

LAPD comes and talks to your tenants. You evict them for talking to LAPD. Only when it becomes a nuisance. Then we invoke the nuisance clause. You know, I gotta say, it called me crazy. But one invoke the nuisance clause you know i gotta say call me crazy but one might get the impression that you're trying to push your tenants out we're making our buildings safer for everyone including locked fire doors and dead 10 year old girls no one feels worse about this tragedy than we do so a lot of great stuff. Some stuff we liked.

You're doing... Kind of a downer, right? Yeah, what you said to her was also very disrespectful. In her office, kind of weird to go in her office. Yeah. That's what Harry does. Yeah. It was like 120 degrees.

That was in a real building, not a set. And it was so unbearably hot. Throw on a beanie. When it's hot out, what you do, you throw on a nice hot winter hat. So if I was a little irritable in that scene, it's because I was uncomfortable.

I have a lot of notes on the location. Everyone does seem very out of like out of sorts. I think it's because nobody's eating. People need lunch. These people need lunch. What about the scene takes place at nice white tablecloth restaurant?

Like you do all these like amazing locations on the show. Yeah. Tom Colicchio's craft in Century City. Every one of your interrogations, that becomes Bosh's like signature thing.

He's got like the corner booth and it's like that's where Bosh is holding interviews. He could do that now because he's a detective so he could just say

meet me there. Meet me there, yes. But then, he takes a long time deciding what to order. He's had everything. Always ends up with the Jadori chicken.

And the iceberg wedge. Yes. Oh, the big... Cut me a nice big wedge, please. And they know. They know to do a huge wedge. He's a wedge guy. Whatever the wedge normally is,

double the wedge. Actually, let's have it be like a semicircle at this point. I'll say, let's talk about the writing. Yeah. We have a very, very funny gastrointestinal disease joke at the top. Why don't we live in that

and just you guys riff on other names of gastrointestinal diseases for eight or nine minutes on the show? And then we get all this crime stuff, which it's good, it's good, it's nice, but we've kind of seen that. But what I haven't seen is you guys just sit and try to one up each other with the names of stomach diseases.

Yes. Because I know that happened on set. Yeah. You know? And if we bring Judd in on this, which I think we should, Judd lets that roll, roll, roll. And then that becomes the whole thing. I think you're right. And you cut the rest of the stuff. This stuff is

like a dead kid or something. It's just like, it's not what I want to talk about. Nobody wants to talk about that. Awful, awful. I don't want to look. Yeah, the fire part was honestly very scary, and I almost got underneath the table. So it's like, as you're talking about that, I'm going like, I'm not going to watch TV from under the table. I'd rather

watch it on my couch comfortably while you guys talk about like shitting and farting disease. Right, right. Exactly. Yeah. That's TV. And hopefully that's IMDB TV. Right. You said that very slowly.

I'm trying to fill time. Should we do another clip? Do we have another clip to show that we can dig in on? I'm not asking you, not asking you. I'm asking the people who are actually in charge of this project today. If we haven't, yeah, let's play it.

If you haven't. You told me back then that you believed, if not in a bitter world, at least in the possibility of justice in this one. I remember. Do you still believe in the possibility of justice in this world for sonia hernandez jury's still out wow whoa so if you um if you don't believe in the possibility of justice in this world or if you haven't decided why are you using a jury to decide whether you believe in the possibility of

justice i fucking knew that was coming you tele telegraphed that one, man. That was low-hanging fruit. But you got me. Yeah, I know. It's just, I love it. I just, it doesn't make any sense. And I'm wondering if that's a problem for the show. Yeah.

I think, you know, so in terms of watching that, it was fun. Again, a little bit of a downer. Yeah. For the spinoff to lighten it up. And I know a lot of it's in the can, but whatever. What if it's, I don't even get a pitch that we're involved. What if instead of all this, like, I'm finding the killer and I'm doing, you know, and everybody's getting hurt. We call it Bosh.0.

It's you. You're watching fail videos. Skateboarder falls down, hurts himself. And you've got a million dollar smirk. And kind of go like, that wasn't a good idea, chief. And then we're just on to the next one. We'll save a ton of dough.

Maybe sometimes you do i'm looking for the right word for it some kind of internet redemption for people who've had videos go that's an oxymoron alone well yeah you can say that you could say that yeah you can say that on the show that's actually ke... Kevin, write that down. That would be a good Bosh.0 piece of patter for you to have leading up to just another video. And then we're not thinking about whether justice exists. I'm going to get a headache.

You saw the gentleman up there. You said, my man. That's Alan Rosenberg, who's one of the great actors of of many generations yes for alan and he uh i think for alan oh no no he's actually it's interesting don't clap for alan hey easy with the alan claps we're not he makes a few appearances in the new show okay because we established that relationship and it's kind of know, when you see this, Harry's very much at sea. So we brought Alan back

in to kind of, and it's some good stuff. New theme song idea. We're bringing Alan back. This guy really knows how to act. Take it to the Bosch. Yeah. But like a scary, like a slow version. It's much scarier than that. Yeah, it's gotta be scary. Slow it way down. It's like a monster's voice. Yeah. But like a scary, like a slow version. It's scary. It's much scarier than that. That could be really scary.

Yeah, it's got to be scary. Slow it way down. It's like a monster's voice. Yeah. It's a picture of Frankenstein. Yeah. Just so people know that it's a scary show. I got another way to possibly lighten up the show.

Nosh with Bosch. Instead of going to solve crimes, we just go to Tom Colicchio's craft. Foodie culture, this is so big now. It's so important. Bosh is always going out eating like a tortilla on the hood of a car and stuff. But the restaurant industry is suffering, and we could actually do some good here.

Have you seen somebody feed Phil? Well, the notoriously reclusive creator of Everybody Loves Raymond got in front of the camera in order to help restaurants. Yes. And I don't know why you couldn't do the same thing, but instead of Phil, it's Bosh.

Bosh Nosh, right? Yeah. So you've got three cameras. You've got the over-the-shoulder like here, but also the one going you've got three cameras. You've got the over the shoulder like here, but also the one going straight down on the table. You have a drone hovering right over the table. It's loud. It's clipping you a little bit. But it's coming out of the kitchen,

so you're there for the food prep, and then you follow out like kind of a Goodfellas thing. Yes. And you get it to the table. Look, people are going to get hurt by the drone. There's going to be some bumps along the way. Look, it happens. You know what?

Suck it up, Cupcake. That's modern production. That's going to happen. It's going to fall into the food. You just have to keep going. You have to eat the drone. It shouldn't be in the kitchen, yeah, but it's going to be in the kitchen.

Have you ever messed around with a drone before? Those things are scary. Every now and then. I'm telling tales out of school here, but yeah, I've messed around with a drone once or twice. You got me? That's a firm no. Is it that obvious?

Yeah. No, I know how a drone works. Yeah. Long weekend, I'll lie to my wife and say I'm going to visit my mom or something. Me and the guys were going fishing. Nope. Drone in. I am with a drone messing around.

Me, a drone, a hotel hotel room and a bottle of wine that's a weekend do you got something do we get all the key messaging well I'm looking at the key messaging yeah we're approaching the sandwich language much of it we're close to sandwich language. Much of it.

We're close to sandwich language. All right, let's talk about... So, Bosh has a partner. Hmm. I have a partner. Hmm. The dynamics of partnership in podcasting and police work is pretty similar, isn't it?

We inspire each other in a way, don't we? Does it ever feel like when you're doing the show, like, me and Jay Edgar are just being Hayes and Sean right now? Yeah. And we feel the same thing. We go, I go, that was total Jay Edgar what you did. And he said, yeah, I know, bosh. Because we're doing it too.

Yeah. But let's just, potential scenario for the new show, you've got a big witness interview scheduled. Your partner makes you reschedule it three or four times to accommodate

what he's got going on. Mm-hmm. Then when you show up, you're stuck making small talk with the witness for like 25 minutes while your partner is not there.

Jay Edgar's late, not there and not answering texts. He forgot. And Jay Edgar's the one who knows the witness guest. Yeah. So it's pretty uncomfortable. What might Bosh do to kind of let

Jay Edgar know, hey man, that really wasn't okay with me. I think that sums it up. I think he would say... He just says it? You left me out there. He wouldn't... And I'm hurt.

Yeah, okay. Yeah. So he literally tells him. Now J. Edgar's crying. You actually didn't know that he's got a lot going on. Yeah. And you didn't even think to ask. Okay, now Bosh is backpedaling yeah bosh is in

trouble here so what he's got to say is oh actually i you know i i overreacted it's actually good that you were so late i learned something here today yeah wow oh wow okay big this is gonna it's a teaching moment that's really it's gonna help the Well, we try to do that. Yeah. There has to be a moral to the tale. Teaching moment. There's also a lot of... It's cool. Text back. There are a lot of Easter eggs in there.

Let's talk about Easter eggs for a minute. Okay. What from this panel should I be keeping an eye out for in the show? You might just see Harry wearing a snazzy flannel shirt. Okay. And some desert boots. Oh, wow. I'm just saying.

One's untied? One's untied. Cool. That's a thing. Yeah. That's a thing these days. Yeah, you better believe it. I see a lot of you kids running around.

A lot of us zoomers. Yeah, we're going around. We're keeping one shoe. And the shirt's untucked. Yeah. Yeah, I'm actually very young as well. And it's funny, somebody must have tied this for me, one of the IMDB TV employees

didn't realize that I'm actually quite young. So yeah, I'm going one untied. It's normal, it's normal for me. You're too old for the Velcro sneakers, let's face it. Yeah. I'm old for the Velcro sneakers, but I'm too young to have both shoes tied. Give me a break. That's crazy.

That's crazy talk. We're big boys. Yeah, that's the thing. We have a really exciting announcement. Ready? As fans know, Bosh is all about the LA hotspots when it comes to food. So we're excited to share that we have sandwiches.

Courtesy of IMDb TV. For everyone to grab on the way out. From Uncle Pauly's Deli. True story. True. Italian cold cut. Caprese. That's it.

Don't come up to me after you. I want. That's it. Don't come up to me after you. I want a meatball sub. Then go to Uncle Polly's Deli and order one. They're excellent. But this is free, so it's caprese. It tastes better. Yes. We also

have four minutes. That's it. The first four minutes, right? We have four minutes. That's it. The first four minutes, right? We have four minutes of the new show that you guys are going to get to be the first people to ever lay their eyes on it.

Yes. It's not that good. But no theme. Okay. Okay. And no theme song. So a lot of it will just be silent. It's just people's names kind of like credit scroll. Yes. Maybe some overhead footage of LA. Maybe drone footage, huh?

Yeah. It's really cool. Bring me back to my wild weekend. We're excited for you to see it. Thank you so much for being here. Can we thank Titus, please, for everything? Thanks for coming. All your claps out. This is for everything. It's your only chance. I thank Titus, please. For everything. Thanks for coming. This is for everything. It's your only chance. I thank Titus.

Thank you, IMDb TV. Thank you, Vulture. Vulture Fest. Is this your first Vulture Fest? Yes. Wow. You'll be back. I'll be back. First of many. He's hooked. We got the hook in him. I want to thank you guys

for having me because this has been a lot of fun. Of course we would have. It wasn't our decision. But of course we would have. You're a little too serious for my taste. I thought we were going to be a little bit more light hearted. We're like talking about the show, giving a lot of information

and you're like looking to just kind of party. I'm looking to improve my brand because people think I'm serious and so I'm trying to be lighthearted and you guys were just so serious. Did you no favors. Did you leave the props back there? I'm sorry about that. Yeah. It's an audio show.

Maybe we lighten it up a little bit. Yeah, we do the props. Let's get another one on the books. And for that one, I'm going to be a little silly. Sponsored by MedMen. Yes. Yes. We'll do the weed show next time.

Yes. We forgot to talk about weed. Cheech and Chong. Oh, yes. Never gets old. Stoner humor never gets old. Oh, yeah. And it's funny to people who aren't stoned.

That's what's so good about it. It's actually funnier to people that aren't stoned. Yeah, it's better for them. Yeah. Yeah. But I digress. Thank you again for being here today. Watch the show. Have a good time.

Stay cool. We love you. Last season of Unboshed. You know, on my desk at work, I have pictures of three young women. They've never been identified. Their murders have never been solved. Why do you keep them in pictures?

To remind me everybody counts or nobody counts. Detective, when you shot and killed Mr. Flores, weren't you in effect avenging your mother's death? Objection. You got a lot of fucking nerve. So you're on, detective. Most likely in court. Guys like you never stop stepping on

their own dicks. Borders claimed from the get-go the police manipulated the evidence. No basis for it. It's bullshit. I've never planted evidence. I believe you. So is that a yes? How can I not take you on as a client? It's too delicious. You're like a feral cat. You don't trust anyone.

You take too many risks. We're kept from the same stone, you and I. We do what we have to. Adam 77 continuing westbound first. Adam 77 westbound first approaching Vignes. Yes! approaching bigness yes yeah i just gotta say that all right that's it that's a good little tease yeah what what i what i can tell you i'll just tell you the whole season what happens please please the new show will be with mimi rogers and uh she's working for a different practice um and still recovering from she has severe ptsd from being shot by this assassin maddie is a is a lapd cop and uh and harry's uh he's a private eye.

And there's sort of three standalone stories, and then they kind of intersect. And the writers have done a great job of bringing these characters kind of in and out of each other's lives. But it's a different show. It has the same tone that Bosh had, but the focus is different but I'm really proud of the show and I think it doesn't matter if you if one never saw Bosch and just started with this you'd be fine because

the the integrity of the character of Bosch and Michael's books is there every step of the way and and I'm proud of it. And I think that we've done a really good job and I look forward to everybody. So sorry, Titus, my ride is here. That's my manager. Awesome. Awesome. Let's all get together and watch it.

Let's watch it together. Thank you. The collective cinematic experience. This is what Quentin was talking about. I want to say again, thank you to IMDb TV and I'm not at all upset that the four minute clip that we showed

was three minutes and 59 seconds of a recap. Mostly previously on. Because the little bit that I did see whoo boy am I ready to watch. Bye. Bye. Hollywood Handbook.

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