Hollywood Handbook - Tony Hale, Our Close Friend
Episode Date: April 29, 2019Tony Hale stops by the studio to record some punch up The Boys wrote for Toy Story 4.This episode is sponsored by Philo ( www.philo.tv/theboys ), Harry's ( www.harrys.com/HANDBOOK ), Indochin...o ( www.indochino.com  code: HANDBOOK), and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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this is a head gum podcast
so i'm with uh chief chief and big chief aminu and
and mrs bean mrs bean mr bean's wife who you don't see much no doesn't love the spot And Mrs. Bean. Mrs. Bean.
Mr. Bean's wife, who you don't see much.
No.
Doesn't love the spotlight so much.
But we were going through.
She has her head stuck in a turkey.
Well, that's another reason you don't see her.
It's because when the turkey did come off, and this is off screen,
but when the turkey does finally come off his head, it gets stuck on her head.
And as you've seen, it's very difficult to remove uh they've drilled a hole in through the butt area of the
turkey yeah and she can breathe there's like a straw running in it she can drink smoothies and
stuff wow yeah but anyway she and uh his car is not big enough
for her it's the other that's yes so she's often sketching behind it um on like uh not even on a
true skateboard but on like a pallet like you know like those wooden with four wheels that you'd move
like a big box of paper on well that's what she's on but anyway it's her myself the two chiefs
one from the portland trailblazer and one from the world of hip-hop they call him big chief
aminu they do they call him that on the broadcast his name he's descended from
african kings and his name
al-farouk.
Means big chief.
Means the big chief.
Oh, okay.
Yes.
What were you doing?
We were going through FDA trials trying to get our new pills approved.
Yes, the drugs.
We have these drugs, which-
Well, and here's the thing with the FDA.
They're obsessed.
They're such pencil
pushing dweebies and they're all like well what is the drug just supposed to do just try it yeah
i'm like i don't know what it does let's get it approved and then we'll sell it to people who want
it you know what i mean i'm like tell me if there's any really bad side effects just try and
maybe that's what it does.
Let's try a little piece of one.
Literally eat it and then let's talk about it.
Just have a tiny piece.
It's so rude.
Imagine I came to your house for dinner.
And you slid something in front of me and I go, oh, what does this do?
Yeah.
What is this made of?
It's like, take a bite of it.
Oh, can I have a mouse eat it first?
Oh yeah.
Let me feed it to my mouse. Oh, I brought this mouse. I pull a mouse out of my pocket. It's going to eat a bite of it oh can i have a mouse eat it first oh yeah let me feed it oh i brought
this mouse i pull a mouse out of my pocket of your food let me feed some of this to the mouse
i go hang on now hang on this isn't a good dinner and that's what it's like at the fda with those
trials and so we're getting pissed i i started that way and go, fine, you guys are so mad.
I'll eat it.
And you just watch me.
I take a big handful and I'm chowing down.
And I'm going at it.
It's lunch for you.
Yeah.
I'm sweating.
You skipped breakfast.
Yeah.
And it did turn out to be Chewy Spreet
Hey welcome to Hollywood Handbook
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Tony Hale
I want a Tony
I have so many questions about your
FTA experience
Are you going through this process?
Veep is done.
You're trying to get in the game a little bit.
What's next?
What's the next chapter?
It must be a pill.
These pills, these big pharma, it's big money.
It is big money.
How did you get in the FDA though?
I'm curious, like what credentials you use to like get in there.
That has to have some tight security, you know?
Yeah, I did. Actually, it's a really crazy story i uh used the front door wow you just have
that kind of face that they're like just let you in i am somebody who people inherently trust and
he can sort of flatten out and like crawl in a way that really is silent and that the security guy at the desk
would not be able to see.
What a skill.
Like an X-Men thing.
Yeah, I was like Flat Stanley,
more like Flat Stanley.
Oh, right.
I see that.
Do people take pictures with you a lot?
Well, when I'm pretending to be
an important piece of art at an art museum
because I flattened out and got up against a wall,
people are taking pictures of me, sure.
What a chameleon.
Yeah.
Tony.
Yes. Engineer Jordan. Jordan. taking pictures of me, sure. What a chameleon. Tony. Yes.
Engineer Jordan. Jordan.
I just met Jordan. I just heard Jordan is a
vocal performance. Yeah, a vocal performance.
She brought it up before you even
finished saying hello.
It was so fast. Sometimes she treats us
like we're the ones bringing it up.
Bring it up. You brought it up.
It was the first thing she said. She did not bring it up.
You brought it up. And Chef Kevin. We not bring it up you brought it up and chef Kevin
we were all around there
chef Kevin
is he actually a chef
he is
this has come up
on a recent episode
and I'm afraid
we can't
go through it again
oh really
it's very painful
to hear him explain his life
but you can go through
the whole FDA process
of allowing a drug
that just only does side effects
well this is the thing
we don't like that
we're trying to circumvent that.
It didn't sound like you did.
The side effect of this drug
was that you get a little bit hyper.
Oh, well, that's not bad.
And then you crash pretty hard, yeah.
So it's like any other drug.
Tony, Chef Kevin has started saying
C'est la tea instead of that's the tea.
What do you think about that?
Interesting.
C'est la tea.
So just really just switching the language.
Yeah.
I mean, and he'll like, you'll give him like a little piece of information.
Exactly.
And he'll go, ooh, c'est la ti.
He's got a big accent on it.
C'est la ti, girl.
And that is what he's been doing around the office.
Yeah.
And I am offended, but I don't know why like on who's i don't why would
you be offended i that's like that's a very popular phrase that's the tea i just i just uh
guest judged on rupaul's drag race and i heard that's the tea okay i think i saw some clips of
you blasting through my feed well you got through there so fast.
Did I?
Yes.
It was very temporal.
I mean, but in like a cool way.
Rocket shit, man, through the feed.
It is amazing. And then just gone in the universe.
Boosters on, yeah.
Got it.
Did you get offered a permanent judge position?
No, I would have liked one, though.
I had a blast doing it.
It really, well, the episode I was on.
You had a blast telling people that their drag was not good enough?
No, I didn't do that.
So for me, that would not be fun for me.
Well, I know they worked hard on it, so I kind of want them to feel good.
I kind of became the Paul Abdul of the panel.
I was kind of just the main kind of encourager.
But on my, you might not watch it,
but I was the episode where there was called a snatch game.
And they impersonate people.
From the film Snatch, the Guy Ritchie film.
Just from the film Snatch.
The hiky boxer.
That would have actually been a great angle.
But it was kind of rough.
But then there was this epic lip sync after it
that they threw down and that was super entertaining.
That's the one where they do the freaking splits and they...
Splits?
Yes.
Yeah, they can do the splits.
I saw them do it.
Are you acting like that didn't happen?
I saw them.
I saw it happen.
I just have to call it.
My favorite thing about you right now, watching you, is you're about to laugh, and it's like you swallow a laugh because you don't want to go there.
You're about to, and then you can see swallow laugh because you don't want to go there.
You're about to and then you can see the laugh. People love it. It's very charming.
You can see the laugh fall down your throat and then you keep
talking. It's very finely tuned.
It is finely tuned.
I don't have that skill. I'm the one that breaks
the most when I'm working and I don't
have that skill that you have.
Couldn't you really even call it
working?
It's freaking recess it is job right honestly yes as writers of course we are playground architects and as an actor that is beautiful you're really just the child yes wow
that is kind of true but i have to say i love hearing that you are the person who breaks the most at work when we are how many minutes into the show and I have not heard your laugh.
And for me, that's a nice challenge, isn't it?
To sort of put that out there.
And I love that you've presented that for me and I hope to hear you.
There you go.
You just did it.
Mission accomplished. That's maxing out. That's did it. Mission accomplished.
That's maxing out.
That's the biggest paper I got.
It'll get really big.
I have silenced my...
I haven't swallowed it like you have, Hayes.
I've silenced it.
So I will feel free to vocalize it next time.
Who's making you bust up?
Yeah, who's cracking you up?
Guys, I'm not going to judge you.
I'm going to be the Paul Abdul of this podcast today. You're not going to say he makes you bust up? I'm only going to judge you. I'm going to be the Paul Abdul of this podcast today.
You're not going to say who makes you bust out?
I'm only going to encourage you.
So some...
No, no, no.
Not here.
When you're at work, who's busting you up just insane?
I just came from a cold, so my laugh's a little bit...
Yeah, a little mutley to it.
It's a little mutley.
Who makes me bust?
I would say... That's an unfortunate way to say it.
It makes you bust the hardest.
Who makes me laugh the most?
I'd say Julia.
Julia makes me laugh.
Not Tim?
Tim makes me laugh.
Well, Tim I feel bad for.
He gets the most names called to him.
He was called Jolly Green Jizz Face.
He was called Frankenstein if Frankenstein was made entirely of dead dicks
right yeah
I mean that's kind of
I was called a bitchy mime on the show
and I was also called
cow eyes
do they ever like take you aside
and be like you know we're just playing around
nope they never did that
nope and sometimes it gets special
Tim was once said to him they, you just have a weird shape.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, that's something you just carry with you.
That's real.
That is real.
Yeah, that's too close to home.
That's not the character.
No, they're grabbing physical attributes of yourself and putting them in the show.
No, when they add something like Frankenstein dicks, there is a sort of childish playfulness to it.
But something as general as weird shape,
you go, this came from looking at me.
Oh, 100%.
They pulled up a picture of me in the wrong eyes.
Yeah, that's right.
Wow, those are some eyes from a cow.
The cows have beautiful eyes, Tony.
I just swallowed.
It's a smile.
I'm smiling.
I'm having a good time.
People tune into the show.
I'm seeing the Adam's apple go up and down.
To hear this guy show restraint.
That's what's popular on podcasts.
Jordan pops it out.
Jordan, yes.
That has been a big addition to the show.
We had Sam Richards on the show recently.
You also didn't mention him. him as someone making you bust up.
Okay, not, yeah, because it
was Julia, it wasn't
Tim, it wasn't Sam, it wasn't Matt Walsh
who we're friends with. Matt does make
me laugh. They all make me laugh.
They really do. But not bust up.
Well, I just don't like that phrase.
That phrase is just kind of dark.
The busting up? The busting up.
I don't know, it's like, oh yeah, you made me bust up. Well, because you can't bust up? The busting up. I don't know.
It's like, oh, yeah, you made me bust enough.
Well, because you can't bust up in a bad way as well if you're crying.
Yeah.
And that will make you bust up.
And that's in a sad way.
When was the last time you had a cry where it came out of nowhere and you just fell apart?
This morning.
Oh.
Yeah.
Sean and I kind of tried to go through the door at the same time. Yep.
Sean and I kind of tried to go through the door at the same time
and squashed each other
a little bit
in a way
it's interesting for me to hear because at the time you said that you were not crying
well and that is
probably the first thing you'll hear me say when I start crying
especially when I'm completely out of control
you say I'm not crying
yes I could get just enough oxygen to say, I'm not crying.
Wow.
And the truth is that I was, and that on a certain level, I still am.
Oh, wow.
That must have really hurt.
So when Sam was on, we did fix Veep.
Okay.
It is coming back.
Oh, did they not tell you?
Okay, well, one of the fixes we had was...
Tony!
Let's lose some of the dead weight.
Tony!
Oh, Tony, we didn't mean you.
I mean, we did not mean you, but we didn't say you specifically.
Oh.
But the...
Sam was in the room, so we had to keep Sam.
He was in the room.
And at a certain point, you gotta pick one
of you guys. Oh, wow.
Alright. We're gonna have you and
Sam on the show?
Is Sam coming back?
We had to. Oh, you had to.
Yeah. And you've talked about this whole thing
with the HBO execs and stuff like that.
And they know it.
You have.
And they definitely said,
okay, you guys, between us,
we're keeping Julia, the rest of the team,
but we are cutting the fat of Sam and Tony.
Sam, stay.
I know you want Sam to be gone.
That's right.
I'm sure that would feel better.
That was just a codependent move.
You felt bad.
He was in the room.
We're going to go, let's get rid of you.
I haven't seen all the storyboards yet,
but there are plans to excise him pretty early in the first episode.
Oh, really?
Yes.
Spoiler alert.
Well, it's, you know.
Okay.
The call to open is Sam starts his car and the car has a rock fall on it.
Oh my.
So you think it's going to explode.
Wow.
But it does.
It is triggered by, it's like a machine.
Yeah.
The engine turns and you see a rope
sort of go around one of those whirligigs.
That's so dark. It really is
off theme. And you did it.
Oh, I fixed it.
I'm just like pushing a button next to the cave and I'm like
You do your Muttley laugh that
you've been doing for us.
Right. So that is how it's going to start.
As far as HBO execs, they're over the moon for it.
Steve Baker fell out of his chair.
Really?
Steve Baker fell off his chair.
He's an athlete.
Got under his desk and went to sleep.
He's a football player.
He's a football player.
What?
So to make a football player fall down.
Their whole job is not to fall down.
That's the entire job is don't fall down.
That's all of the HBO's job is to not fall down. That's the entire job is don't fall down. That's all of the HBO's job
is to not fall down.
I was meaning football player.
But it is also part of HBO's job.
Don't fall down.
Okay.
Man, I'm going to see football games
in a totally different light now.
Right?
Because it's kind of like
an actor's objective.
Like you have like,
all right,
Gary just wants to be loved by Selena.
And like a football player
just doesn't want to fall down.
And also actors aren't supposed to fall down unless you're Chevy. Well by Selena and like a football player just doesn't want to fall down. And also actors
aren't supposed to fall down
unless you're Chevy.
Well,
that's like a,
that's a,
what's it called?
The exception that proves the rule.
When you spin.
Go ahead and
Vertigo,
not Vertigo.
Is it Vertigo?
Vertigo, yes.
Vertigo is when you spin.
Vertigo.
It's an inner ear issue.
Come on,
you got to know Vertigo. That's the story ear issue. Come on. You got to know Vertigo.
That's a story like from Arrested.
Is it?
Yes.
Liza Minnelli as Vertigo.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Tony, you have to watch this show.
You've got to watch it.
You in particular would love it.
Lucille too.
You're right.
She's freaking going nuts.
And I think she's your wife at one point.
Girlfriend.
Yeah.
We made out.
You don't believe in that?
Yeah.
In marriage?
I'm so glad we're talking about this now.
Please, girlfriend.
Yeah.
Okay.
Ladies, I'm available.
We fixed V.
Just my girlfriend.
We are.
Also.
I'm so interested how you fixed V.
I want to hear more about that but i guess do you
remember podcast i mean my guess is we probably changed the name to karma by the sea so this is
karma by this carmel carmel so we originally fixed atlanta and we were like atlanta you know
how about the show is carmel by the sea okay Okay. And it's set in this, have you been to this place?
Carmel?
Cobblestone Streets.
In Carmel?
A dog is the mayor.
Clint Eastwood's the mayor.
Well, he's friends with a dog, though.
We have to acknowledge.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
I have been to Carmel.
It's beautiful.
Right?
Yeah.
I don't remember Cobblestone Streets, though, but I'm sure it's.
Okay.
And I'm wondering if they actually let you in. Or if they showed you to the fake one.
Oh, Carmelo, right this
way, Mr. Tony.
What?
Guide you into a little... What did it look like?
Did it look like just a room, like the kitchen maybe
of the restaurant? So you're a Carmel by the sea.
Give me five top
attributes of it. Characteristics.
Cobblestone streets. Clint Eastwood is the mayor.
He's friends with the dog as well, who's the mayor.
Okay.
That's a deep storyline.
The library and the...
Sea?
Yes.
And the sea.
The sea.
Wow.
I mean, it sounds very European.
Oh, God, yes.
Yes, that's part of what's so nice.
CC.
A little slice of Europe.
C'est la tea.
C'est la tea. C'est la tea!
We do have to get down to business, Tony.
I'm so sorry.
But part of it is like we're recording a podcast and we'll release a podcast.
But also...
We're multitasking.
We did do Punch Up on TS4.
And we...
I think I already know the lingo.
We just want to...
They said, while Tony's in here, we got the mics, we got everything all set up.
We were mostly focused on your character doing punch up for your guy.
Is this something that they assigned to you?
This, they had us.
God, this is another touchy situation that I'm in.
Yeah, it's just...
I don't understand why these conversations are happening now with me.
Well, this is when we have you again.
Time is money.
But you know what?
All of Hollywood wants to avoid conflict,
so I can see that they gave it to you guys to tell me.
Because we embrace conflict.
Speaking of conflict, just something we
like to mention on the show. Obviously,
I don't know how you feel about this. This show is a full
UTA package. It's a full
package. We didn't split the package.
No, they didn't have to.
And that's in the past.
And that's an existing deal that was made
obviously before the whole conflict. And we don't
get into any part of it.
And if you think you could do it without them, good luck to you.
Okay.
What are your thoughts on this whole packaging?
My thoughts are, listen to the podcast and tell me if you think it's good.
And that's a product of the old system.
Listen to the podcast we're doing right now.
This podcast.
Oh, it's a product of the old system.
It's full package. It's full package. package okay it's a full package right and my thoughts on are basically
chop wood carry water i just do the work just do the damn thing baby oh my there it is there's
that swallowed that one that's good right it's really good he's swallowing it because it is his own joke. Happy to laugh at someone else's if that comes up.
Oh, sure.
Right, right, right.
It has.
It definitely has.
So they basically gave us sort of prima nocte on this thing, on this script.
They were like, just go in there and you find the areas that need help.
For example, what's your guy?
Forky.
And he is?
He's like a banana.
So my big issue, this is not a toy.
Oh, he's not a toy.
Well, he doesn't think he's a toy.
Well, so then, I mean, basically, what's he doing here?
Actually, that's a big question.
It's not really called freaking Fork Story.
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
And we don't intend to change it because we have a brand already that works.
Wait, you have a, okay, so I'm going to.
We mentioned changing Toy Story 4 to Toy Story Fork just to find a way to get you in there.
Yeah.
Because we love the idea of you being involved.
Okay.
Okay.
Can I,
I'm going to keep bringing this to its simplest form
because I want to understand.
Chop wood, carry water.
That's right.
That's right.
Do you know about that?
Chop wood, carry water?
Do you know about that?
Only that that's like,
is that a phrase of saying you just do what needs to get done?
Do the damn thing.
It is do the damn thing.
Do the damn thing.
Tony, can I ask you what does the monk do prior to enlightenment?
Wait.
If you know.
What does the monk do prior to enlightenment?
What the monk does prior to having like a revelation.
Prior to enlightenment.
Prior to enlightenment. enlightenment um he chops
wood and carries water that's correct and then quick follow-up after enlightenment what does
the monk do he sits and and with god he chops with carried water yes okay but he does it the job stays the same
Tony
but he does it with like
the swag
he's got a little
oh yeah
he's like pimping it a little bit
oh yeah
he's got a little bit of a
gangster limp
okay
but he's
he's
but he's carrying the water afterwards
I would think it would be
just the opposite
it would be more of like
a peaceful
kind of assurance of himself.
It's peaceful as hell, man.
It's peaceful as hell, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Have you guys been to a monastery?
Okay.
This is another touchy subject for me.
Is it?
Is faith a touchy subject for you?
Yes.
Yes.
Really?
Well, we've been on quite a journey on this show.
I mean, of course, as you know, religion is the cause of all wars.
It's killed more people than every disease.
Church is pretty screwed up sometimes.
Uh-huh, can be tough.
Yeah.
At the same time, when I did confront the church about this,
they frequently met my anger with love.
Oh, wow.
That has been an issue.
And what would you say is,
why do you have a hard time receiving that?
Oh, wow.
And we're digging in on this.
We're never going to get to TS Fork at this point.
Why do I have a tough time receiving that?
Not enough room.
Not enough room for their love.
There are too many muscles in there already.
Yeah.
Okay.
I can see that.
I've been chopping wood and carrying water.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Okay.
It really feels like you're avoiding your job.
It's like you don't want to fix the movie and possibly save your role.
My role.
Okay.
Because what we have for the fork.
Yeah.
That's gone.
Wait,
what you have for the fork is gone.
Meaning you pitch something to them and they said,
no can do.
What I'm saying is the original version of what you think the fork is doing in the movie.
Uh-huh.
Who's a spork,
I guess.
Yeah.
It's like,
yeah.
What? Yeah. But's like, what?
Yeah.
But what you think he's doing in the movie,
that, Hayes and I saw it,
we're doing you a favor.
It didn't work.
It didn't work.
Because it's not a toy.
God, I'm so glad you guys are here.
We didn't get it.
Right.
We didn't see a lot of it.
We were like on our phones yeah wow because i saw it really
i got it like i loved it are you maybe too close to it i think yeah maybe i'm too close and are
people like not texting you that much is that the other is that like the other issue because you we
have to be assuming that other people are going to be watching this and people are going to be
hitting them up like they're actual friends so that this is what we're competing and when you
say people are going to be hitting them up you mean hitting disney up no people watching the
movie are getting hit up they're going to directly hit up by their friends guy no they're getting hit
up by their friends friends yes they're going to directly hit up the movies guys the first friends
are watching watching it and hitting them up and so guys. The movies guys. The friends are watching it
and hitting them up.
And so this is what I'm saying.
You're watching this movie.
Nobody's hitting you up.
And so you're like enjoying it.
You're having a good time.
Sean and I are watching.
We're getting hit up constantly.
Well, let me ask you this.
So when you see a movie,
so your goal is seeing something
and to get hit up.
No.
My goal is in in writing producing a movie
is to create something that will be more appealing will get my attention more than all my all the
people hitting me all my friends my wife my girlfriend who are hitting me up i see so you're
saying that you want it to be so interesting that you're not getting distracted by the number of fully immersive world that you are sucked into to the extent that it destroys your personal relationships with your friends, family, loved ones.
And that is the ultimate movie.
And I think we've come close with some of these wild lines and stuff that we're going to record for Forky today.
Okay. Can you tell me some of them? Uh, yeah, yeah. That's kind of a big part of it. Yeah. Okay. We're going to have you record them. So you'll have to know them. I
don't think I can record them, but I would love to. Okay. That's really the entire thing that
we're doing here. Wait, so today is an ADR session. Yeah. We're just getting pickup.
Right off the top. Your name is Forky Romano.
We're going to try to tie it in with another successful thing that already exists.
Forky Romano.
So we are going to have a CGI version of Chris Penn and Peter Berg,
who played Forky Romano's brothers in that film.
Okay.
What about the other characters like Woodyody and all those guys are they
they're fine they they work oh everybody works except you think forky forky again forky romano
works now sorry yeah we've got forky romano working so the first white line, of course, in keeping with this is, you guys want some cookies?
If you recall,
Corky Romano had to pose as a Girl Scout,
selling cookies in order to infiltrate the home
where the microfilm was or something.
Or he's working for the mob,
but I think he was also working for the FBI.
His family's the mob, yeah, and he's tied in the mob but I think he was also working for the FBI his family's the mob yeah and he's tied in
with the FBI yeah
and you see this as the same age range
that Toy Story 4
is
or like appealing to kind of a
younger crowd
or all generations
can I try something
because a lot of times what happens is
I sort of lay out
sort of a really clear, cool idea to Tony.
Oh, okay.
And then Tony will go, and you think, blah, blah, blah.
Oh, it sounds passive.
So you just asked me, and you see this as the same age as Toy Story 4,
so I'm going to try something and see if this is just how you like to communicate.
Okay. Toy Story 4 so I'm going to try something and see if this is just how you like to communicate okay so you see that question of whether the age range
of Toy Story 4 is
going to be the same
as the fan base for
Corky Romano the mega hit movie starring Chris Kattan
as a
relevant
question that's going to help us get these
lines recorded
and you know what?
I hear you and I can understand that that sounds really aggressive
and I'm sorry about that.
Let me see if I can phrase it.
I do have a question.
It doesn't sound like it's the same tone
as what the Toy Story 4, really the beauty of the franchise, has created.
And I am curious what demographic you're thinking.
Okay.
Does that kind of...
If Corgi Romano...
Yeah, exactly.
People that like going to the movies.
People that will pay to watch a movie.
People who are ready to laugh again.
Oh, wow. the movies people that will pay to watch a movie people who are ready to laugh again oh what are
we like if if corky romano is not working for you what direction would you prefer like mr peepers
the host of the how do you say is show like what antonio banderas i guess yeah like what is wow
you said that with a lot of subtext you don't like antonio banderas
i'm i'm saying of all the iconic chris katan characters we could mold forky into uh-huh
antonio banderas to me would be the most confusing one to approach i just think if antonio banderas
was in this room and you went antonio banderas? But I'm not talking about Antonio Banderas. I'm talking about the Chris Kattan
version of Antonio Banderas.
From your lips to Buddha's ears.
We have spent time in a monastery, by the way.
We never really answered that question before.
I'm just not. Welcome back.
Oh, I'm sorry
about that.
We were saying you guys want some cookies.
I karate kicked the gong and it went flying off the thing and rolled down all the temple steps.
Oh, wow.
That's unfortunate.
Yeah.
And no one was recording it.
Yep.
No one was recording it, which helped me in court.
And the sound, a bunch of people got nirvana.
Someone who had just shown up.
People had just walked in
and they heard the sound of the gong going down the steps
and they were like, wow.
I got it.
Oh, they got Nirvana after
seeing it go down the steps.
You were thinking Nirvana unplugged.
No, I wasn't actually.
I think you might have been.
Oh.
Well, I won't break this down.
And I could see you in your head going, two flannels? I think he might have been. Oh. But I, well, I won't break this down.
And I could see you in your head going, two flannels?
Hmm.
Because in Nirvana Unplugged, it's like, there's so many flannels.
There is a lot of flannels.
That hasn't stopped either.
No.
We stuck with it.
We're dead.
So here's another line for Forky that we just want to get out of the way and it's and it's don't tell your parents and that's to camera wait wait so for so something happens
can you yeah can you kind of create that world a little bit for me why he would say don't tell
your parents i mean i don't want to spoil too much.
Yeah, and we're actually not even really allowed to share too much of the plot details.
But basically, by the time you're finished and they've caught you cleaning it up,
you kind of just go, don't tell your parents.
Wow, that sounds...
And there's a new like you know they have like
this new technology there's like a camera effect where uh the forky will be saying so if you could
just basically say the name of every child okay and then we have a way to fill in oh wow that
child's name at the end of you're. You're saying every child in the world.
Yes, if you could just say the name of every child in the world.
I'll roll through them really fast.
First and last?
Yes, sorry, full names.
That sounds like a lot, guys.
Until then, Forky's going to be looking down the barrel
and is going to say the child's full name
because they, you know,
scan. Some of them we can fudge.
Facial scan as they're walking into the theater, and then...
But then if there's a lot of people in the crowd,
how would it be specific to each child?
Targeted Dolby Blast.
Wow, okay.
The Dolby technology now is out of this world.
I mean, obviously, you're not on that side of things,
so you haven't necessarily been tracking the updates,
but they can target the blast in such a way that each individual seat in the theater is receiving their own name.
Wait, but seeing it, I see, and hearing it differently.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, we're going to fudge the mouth movements so that it sort of, it can match a lot.
And some of the names, we don't have to get every, you know, Jaden, Caden, Braden,
Aiden, you know, we'll just get it.
That's, yeah, that's most of them.
I knew a Shep Shepard in middle school.
You knew a Shepard?
I knew a Shep Shepard.
I knew a Shep Shepard
from my hometown. Wow. Is it possible
that the name
Shep was a nickname
based on the last name Shepard.
I don't think so.
Okay.
I mean, but if possible.
It is possible.
If it's possible at all,
that's what happened.
Because it means you don't know.
You know, I have to say,
I so admire the certainty.
It really, I think if more people could have this kind of certainty when they speak, I
think it would create such a more confident and loving environment.
So we have one name, which is Shep Shepard.
That one is on tape.
That we got.
Oh, I didn't even do it in Forky's voice.
Okay. Oh yeah, I'm sure it's so different so it's it's
i do that's another note by the way on forky's voice to change it we need to amp up uh the vocal
fry okay big time yeah Yeah. Really? Yes.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
So can we hear the old version?
I kind of need to hear...
It's in the trailer.
You're allowed to do it.
Cat's out of the bag.
I need to...
I kind of need to hear more of the world
that you guys are coming from a little bit.
I don't know.
I mean, I hear what you're saying,
but you're both actors, right? Oh, wow. You don't know. I mean, I hear what you're saying, but you're both actors, right?
Oh, wow.
You think...
Why did you have something that you
thought I'd be
right for?
But I can tell that you're both really good.
Oh, my God.
I guess it's kind of
a performance. And actually harder in a way because people don't have the visual components. I guess this is kind of like it's a kind of performance
and actually harder in a way because people don't have
the visual components so you have to be like
creating a whole thing in there
vocally but that's sort of
I just feel like when you're
I'm an actor
I guess I'm an actor right?
but I feel like when you're due acting
which clearly you have because I've looked at both
of your IMDB pages
and I feel like when you have you acting, which clearly you have, because I've looked at both of your IMDb pages. Wow.
And I feel like
when you have,
you kind of have to have
a little bit of an intention
before you say something, right?
Intention and an obstacle.
Yeah.
And kind of know the world
of what you're talking about.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Earth.
Yeah.
Well, that's,
then I'd be that general.
And some of the movies
I've done are space as well.
Yeah. Oh, okay. So like, what would you say is the kind of... Mars, yeah. that's then I'd be that general and some of the movies I've done are Earth Space as well yeah oh okay
so like
what would you say
is the kind of
that Mars yeah
what is this
this Forky world
you've created
um
what would be his
kind of
both challenges
and
intentions
uh
his intention
I think
is to finish
finish finish
finish the job
he also wants to save
he of course
has a bar called Forky's
oh he has a bar
yeah and there is
a hole in the wall
with
that I think connects I haven't seen
I forget exactly
what we did.
Yes, Jordan? Doesn't he have
a multi-personality
because he can never figure out
if he's really a spoon or a fork
so he's always battling back and forth?
He does
have a lot. I mean, he does have both
worlds.
Oh, God.
Is this going to turn tense?
We signed a document.
Do we remember this?
That's right.
I'm sorry, Jordan.
Do we remember when we were sharing our ideas for the movie
that we were deciding that we weren't going to take individual credit for ideas?
Yeah.
And just the fact that you were invited
to the idea sharing session
was a huge honor
and whether or not
most who can remember
whether or not
most of the ideas
or in fact
all of the ideas
that wound up
being incorporated
in the film
came from you
or whether some of them
we actually helped with
a little bit
doesn't matter
but that you
in fact were going to pretend
that you hadn't been there and that they had all been
me and Hayes's ideas.
I forgot that part.
Yeah.
That's kind of why the document exists,
isn't it?
So that we don't forget that part.
So I remember,
I remember.
Does this happen every session with Jordan where there's just a lot of shame
dumped on her?
Cause I wouldn't want to be in this environment.
So we don't answer that george
i will field this one no it doesn't happen every session we have other engineers half the time
oh okay i just what does it say about you guys that you feel like you have to do that to somebody
each time i remember the plot now. That we did for
Forky's.
It's a group of Florida
high school students.
Do they
live in Tallahassee?
They go to Forky's, which is sort of
a nightclub in the
Everglades.
There's a bar in there.
Well, that's not in Tallahassee then.
Everglades is South Florida. Then, yes, then it's the Everglades. Yes. There's a bar in there. Well, that's not in Tallahassee then. Everglades is South Florida.
Then, yes, then it's the Everglades.
Okay.
It's closer to the Everglades.
I think the Everglades is South Florida. They're in more of a general town.
They have sort of a suburban-looking high school, but at the same time, there is, just
out in the outskirts of town, Forky's, which is a nightclub that can be a little raunchy.
And they're looking to have a learning experience with one of these ladies of the night at Forky's, which is a nightclub that can be a little raunchy. And they're looking to have a learning experience with one of
these ladies of the night at Forky's Club.
And you, Forky, take their
money, and then you dump
them in the swamp.
Okay.
If it's okay, I need to
break that down a little bit.
Just to kind of get to its simplest form.
So, I live in the Ever down a little bit. Sure. Just to kind of get to it. Simplest form. Let's get into it. So I live in the Everglades.
Yeah.
I live in the suburbs of the Everglades or the other side of the track.
No,
the kids live in.
Yes.
Yeah.
The kids live in the,
in the suburbs.
The kids live in the suburbs.
They're looking for a special experience at Forky's.
Okay.
You run that.
That is in the Everglades.
We don't really establish where you live, but I could assume that it's near Forky's you run that, that is in the Everglades we don't really establish where you live
but I can assume that it's near Forky's
the hopping nightclub
where prostitution occurs
okay, guys I have to say
this can't happen
this can't happen
I won't let this happen
I mean it's like
it's a
beautiful story that Disney has created.
And I feel like this, I don't know if they needed you guys to come in and step in and do this.
Okay.
I wonder if that's above your pay grade.
But I just feel like you, I really think you bring a lot of good attributes into what you guys do.
With acting, you had said so.
That's right.
Yeah.
I don't know if the Toy Story franchise
is one of those venues for you.
So the guy who does the voice is telling Bob Iger
how to do his job.
Wait, you're telling me that you guys
had this meeting with Bob Iger.
We is, we've been trading.
Trading.
Bob's obviously insanely busy,
and he's not the only one.
Like you said, we're acting and other stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so we're trading,
and we're at a point where this version of it
has to be locked and loaded
when we do sit down with Bob.
So we need some wild grunts from you.
Oh.
Just a dozen or so different kinds of grunts.
I'm not going to give that to you.
I mean,
I can appreciate...
You know, it's one of those things that
I need to speak up. This is a time I need to
speak up. My personality... time I need to speak up.
My personality- You put up with this stuff.
Everything they did on Veep, you just swallowed it.
And now-
Cow eyes, et cetera.
Yeah.
And now it's time.
Now for Toy Story 4.
Now's the time when we're speaking up.
Okay.
And does this make you think that perhaps we,
your loving, caring partners in this venture who are trying to help you are now suffering the consequence of the abusive relationship of Veep and the emotional baggage where you now don't trust us because you were betrayed by someone completely different when actually what we're giving you is a way out of that.
Really?
A path to freedom.
Yeah.
So you have mine and Jordan's best intentions with all this world you've created.
Jordan, I'll tell you a little story.
Yeah.
You might like this.
Okay.
I got a text a few days ago from someone saying,
your picture is in somebody's Tinder profile.
Oh, no!
No!
Wait.
So that is the kind of relationship that we have.
So you're sitting here.
It's okay.
Wait, wait, can I just add, I've deleted all dating apps?
Because I can't do it anymore, but yes.
Okay, so someone is posing as you.
Sure, yeah.
Oh, wow.
And Weird Al is in there, too. So that is the core four, basically, is the two of us, Weird Al and Engineer Jordan.
How did you guys meet your wives?
So this is a great little backstory.
I am married to Carrie Ann Moss, but she is not technically married to me.
We have kind of a progressive 2019 relationship where the arrangement that she requested is that I am her husband, but she is not my wife.
Does that make sense?
And you both did not meet your partners on a dating app.
No, I met, we met during warmups at the French Open
in, I want to say, 99, 2001, around there.
But our coaches, my coach, Brad Gilbert, say 99, 2001 around there.
But our coaches, my coach, Brad Gilbert,
had arranged through her coach that we would go out and have a bit of a hit around.
I showed up kind of at the end of her practice
and it was like, oh, maybe we hit together.
And I was so distracted.
I mean, that thing was flying all over the court.
I'm married to Steffi Graf.
Okay.
And that's how you got... I mean, I did meet flying all over the court. I'm married to Steffi Graf. Okay. And that's how you got.
I mean, I did.
We met on an app.
There's like a special app for people that were in the Matrix.
In the movie.
Okay.
Wow.
Wow.
It's interesting.
I was in, you know, at the beginning of Reloaded, there's like that insane party scene.
I'm sort of like DJing that party.
Wow.
I just, I mean, Jordan,
I felt a lot of shame about your dating apps
and I don't think there's anything wrong
with you being on those dating apps.
I have shame because multiple times
that has been brought up on the show.
Come on, guys.
Dating advice.
And yet he met Carrie Ann Moss on a dating app.
There's no shame in using a dating app.
It's 2019.
I guess if you consider Brad Gilbert,
author of the book, Winning Ugly Tips from a Master on Tennis Tournament Play,
if you think of him as a dating app, which I hadn't, but in a way, that's the old version of the dating app.
Okay.
Is that Brad would dial up Steffi's coach,
whose name escapes me now,
and two of you would whack it around.
To your question about what does it say about us that we have to do this to every engineer,
and also don't forget our producer.
I know, we haven't even touched on Chef Kevin.
I know, and that is so sad because we are out of time.
We have a hard out today, is that right?
They're doing the Comedy Bang Bang, the special anniversary thing.
Were you invited to that?
I was not.
I was not.
I hate to hear that.
They checked the schedule, and I think they saw that we already had a record.
So maybe that's for you, too.
Are you guys going to that right now?
Is that why you have to leave?
I am sort of planning on walking out very slowly in a way that leaves me open to being sort of pulled in.
I'm going to be standing in the doorway very intently, like sort of responding to an email.
And getting bumped into, hopefully, by some of these characters,
some of these guys.
And we are going to be hovering in a way
where if we accidentally get shoved into the room or...
You know what?
There's really a full... It's all making sense. I feel like that's how shoved into the room or... You know what? There's really a full...
This is all making sense.
I feel like that's how you got into the FDA.
That's how you got into the tennis tournament.
Knowing Scott Ackerman.
What?
Knowing Scott Ackerman.
Knowing Scott Ackerman.
You just kind of stand outside and then get bumped into these places.
Is that kind of how it works?
It doesn't hurt.
All right.
I'm going to try it.
it doesn't hurt alright
I'm gonna try it
so unfortunately
we
I guess
Forky's character
is now
just based on what we have
someone who refuses
to
say the lines
that he's told to
we gotta use
we gotta use this
the old
the old stuff is deleted
so Forky now
basically
enters the film
says
hey Shep Shepard.
I'm not going to say that.
And then he talks about how his co-stars, only one of them ever made him laugh.
Yeah.
Okay.
Wow.
So all of this podcast is going to be cut into however you guys want to put it.
It's a long movie.
My hands are tied.
Yeah.
This is what we have today.
This is what we got.
Disney owns this and is just going to use this as however you want.
So it's a UTA package.
Oh, right.
Right.
And you're just going to cut this into your story.
Well, we're going to make the most.
I mean, we're going to, you know, lemonade, et cetera.
Okay.
All right.
I haven't signed off on that.
But I mean...
And I don't even think...
I know they haven't signed off on it.
Speaking of signing off, bye.
Hollywood Hamburg.
That was a HeadGum Podcast.