Hollywood Handbook - Vanessa and Jonah Bayer, Our Nostalgic Friends

Episode Date: August 8, 2023

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This is a HeadGum Podcast. Don't just, when we're about to start the show, play a totally new song that you've been working on. And already I feel it. I'll push through it and I'll be professional about it, but already I feel sort of the impact. They haven't even spoken yet. But there was a reason I said for 10 years not having blood relatives on the show. Yeah.

There was a reason. And it's because it just it comes with strategic advantages for them i i feel ganged up on the shared history between our two guests is an insurmountable obstacle for us in terms of like establishing chemistry wow well and i and what did i say at the beginning of this i will be professional about it i will it is not going to be so mature it's not going to create any issues but it for me just know that it is it it's causing problems for me i'm an adult i'm a broadcaster you know this is my profession so i'm obviously not gonna. And no one else will tell you, you do other shows together

and you do your own show together. No one else will tell you this, right? But like everyone is talking about how this is a huge problem. Yes. That when you two are together, that the combined energy is insanely problematic

and destructive to like any kind of successful episode being recorded do you not feel you don't like perceive that at all you don't feel insane right now no i honestly feel totally fine what about you jonah i'm feeling good i'm yeah i'm feeling good but i you know you're doing it right now. Go ahead. But you're doing exactly what we're saying. It's exactly the thing.

It's like ganging up on us, like teaming up. And it's like, oh, like you're gaslighting us. Like, oh, you guys feel weird? Like we actually feel good. But it's like, but you're attacking us. But go ahead. So it's whatever. It's, uh... like but you're attacking us but go ahead so it's whatever it's uh but it's a very jona

they're good you know they have uh they have a podcast we have a podcast like seem like a natural fit but now we're where we are right yeah thanks for having us thank No, thank you. Thank you. That's better. We've been already, I can feel us, getting to a better place with this. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you so much for saying that.

The show that you all do, it's a podcast. Right. It's Vanessa. It's Jonah. Who's older am i'm two years older okay wow and yeah the silent yeah it's communication where vanessa nods giving jonah he'll take this one i'm not i know this one i know this one by heart he knows he's older but

we don't want to do all the sort of selling of your show like we actually want you to tell us a little bit about the show and then we can kind of figure out how we fit in right what's our role

I think that makes a lot of sense. Like what's been the most successful, like kind of episode, like what were they doing? And then how can we kind of mimic that? Right. Well, the show is called,

how did we get weird? And we talk about nostalgic topics from growing up. So anything from, you know, snacks that we would eat as kids like lean pockets oh my god okay um skip it's uh you ate those well no skip it's our toy okay well you said let me sorry sorry sorry i don't want to forget the exact wording. Let's read the transcript because we actually have... It's nice.

We record these, so we have it. Snacks that we would eat as a kid from lean pockets to skippets. To skippets. From lean pockets to skippets. And then I said, okay, you ate those? And you said, no, skippets are... You're like, no. You're like, well, no, skippets are a toy.

And it's like, okay, but you said to me that you eat those i thought that the pause that i took between snacks that i we would eat as a kid like lean pockets pause new anything like to skip it is not a category as you seem to establish you seem to know that toy is a category you don't know if i was gonna say skip it's a toy we would play with as kids but i will never know if i was gonna say that you'll never know jonah knows you guys have this like psychic energy like he totally understands what you're doing and i'm fucking we're not twins i am at sea no you made it very clear that he's older who did the biggest episode in terms of numbers yeah what kind of numbers are we pushing i don't know exactly what the numbers are but who did you know

who did the big that's convenient we don't know exactly what the numbers are either well trust me we don't want to know we've we've had the biggest numbers recently because the podcast has gotten more popular, but we had a very successful episode with Will Ferrell. Okay. Has he done ours? Yeah, I'm trying to think. We've done a lot of episodes. Was he that guy?

Yeah. Oh, do you guys not know who that is? The Cayman? No, of course I know who he is i'm just like working through our episodes we've done right we've obviously had some great guests did we have you too and we have we've done uh and this is our biggest episode my friend ben has done this is our biggest episode so far so that's our answer this This is our biggest episode. We will be investing heavily behind this episode. Yeah.

What's the promotion kind of plan for this one? In terms of impressions? Yeah. Impressions. Yeah. We actually can guarantee you. Kevin, give me the number again, because you're Kevin's kind of our numbers guy. Six.

Six impressions. Wow. Unique impressions impressions wow unique impressions six unique impressions not not christopher walken not the ones everybody's doing six six unique six unique eyeballs yeah and so that's three people i guess wow no it's like yeah it's not something that we brag about but like we've been doing it for a while and you sort of, when you get in early, you know, you have first mover advantage and that's something we've enjoyed on the show for a while. Right.

You sort of started the movement in a lot of ways, the podcast movement. Nobody was talking to comedians and trying to figure out like, wait a minute, how did you get so funny? Like, when did you realize you were funny? Like what? You know, why are people from where you're get so funny? Like, when did you realize you were funny? Yeah. Like, what? You know. Why are people from where you're from so funny? Like, we actually ask people, like, where you're from.

There's other funny people from there. What is it that makes you funny where you're from? Right. Kind of looking at the big picture. You could do it for Chicago. You could do it for Boston. You could do it for the South. And that's it. I mean, it's like all Canada. You could do it for Canada. Oh, Canada it for the south i mean that's like all canada

like you can do it canada why are people canada so funny yeah yeah right right you can do it found all over have you found any answers to any of that when we do we end the show yeah we're trying to put ourselves out of a job yeah you know what i mean because as soon as we find as soon as you don't need us anymore to like get the answer to that question peace we disappear you never hear from us again so okay so so you get the answers but you don't say them because you're worried it'll put you out of we haven't we haven't gotten we don't we haven't gotten a satisfying answer trying to figure out how to explain this okay oh i see what you're saying that the second that you

right the second you find out that's when it opposite of what I was saying. You're saying that the second that you... Right. The second you find out, that's when it's time to say goodbye. We disappear. You never hear from us again. Goodbye. Peace. Deuces. And we don't release that episode.

Audi 5000. Nobody knows what happened to us. Yeah. Right. Have you ever had anyone come on your show who's not weird? Mm-hmm. That's a good question. Yeah.

Could be interesting. Well... Could be interesting to try right i kind of would like to hear from a not weird person every once in a while well i think it's how did we get weird more in a general sense of how did we get to be unique in the way that we're, you know, each unique. Yeah, but have you had somebody normal? We had our dad on the podcast. They might have a cool perspective on it. Your dad? Your dad's normal? God, so imagine him being subjected to...

That sucks. Every week he gave birth to two weird children. I'm just thinking about, like, I have a son and a daughter. I have a boy who's two weird children. I'm just thinking about like, I have a son and a daughter. I have a boy who's two years older. If they both are weird, I'm going to be fucking pissed. Because I'm actually like a really normal guy.

Like, I'm just like kind of normal. Just like want to know what makes people funny from different parts of the world and then i just want to like have my snacks like not toys just like normal snacks what if your son and daughter said said hey dad we want you to come on our podcast about how did we get weird what would your response be it depends which one's saying it okay and so we have to be considering number one i mean let's play it out yeah he's still gonna be he's still gonna be a podcaster i'd like to be me yeah this is all filtered through like okay well number one is a promo opportunity we got to get our numbers up sure and so like like is this an opportunity for

so he's gonna have to look you know he he's going to have to look at their books. Get under the hood. Yeah. We're going to have to pop the hood. So Jonah, do you want to ask in this hypothetical? Vanessa, you're the actress, I think. Okay. Okay.

Okay, so you're being my daughter? Yeah. All right. It's killing me. Hey, Dad, do you want to be on our podcast? Where's my bracelet? I was wearing this bracelet for like a couple of months and I was kind of liking like just the vibe of being like a bracelet guy

and I can't find it. And I'm going and I've checked like all the drawers and stuff. And I know you have hid stuff of mine before. Put my keys in the laundry basket. And in the washing machine, you have a whole thing where you want to wash my keys. Have you seen it? Dad, I don't really want to.

That's not really what, we can deal with that later. It definitely sounds like she knows something um dad i don't really want to that's not really what we can deal with that later i just wanted to definitely sounds like she knows something about right what happened in the bracelet yeah there's something to be dealt with here and i suspected the whole time that you would know where it was just separately out of character uh did you did did you ever take improv classes? Because it kind of seems like, you know, when people are doing an improv scene and someone says, like, we're at a restaurant and you go, oh, can I?

Can I get a skippit? Yeah. I have one large skippit. Deep fried. Okay. One large skipper. Deep fried. Okay, this is kind of proving my point of like, you know, you're the person on stage going, this isn't a restaurant, it's a playground. You know, sort of feels like kind of adding your...

Yeah, what's the difference? Well, I am always in a playground. Fair, I walked right into that one. But anyway, I just, interesting that in this. Not anyway, not anyway. In this potential scenario where I'm asking our dad if he wants to be on the podcast, you're bringing up a bracelet. Sorry, am I your dad?

I understood from the question. You know, what I'm realizing is that this is such deflection it was very unfair to talk about like getting off course we're talking about a bracelet and you ask your dad if he's taking improv classes i thought i was where's the where's the bracelet what did you do with it okay okay i think i said before i before i took us out of the impromptu list i said if we're not in this potential scenario back in real life you know i was asking you know are you kind of a tough person to take it no i'm just really confused no i'm just really confused and i'm willing to own part of that. Like that might be me.

But I'm realizing that it was unfair. We accused the two of you of having this really strong bond and like communication style that was going to unify you against us. And basically that you would take over the show. and basically that you would take over the show. But like, now I'm realizing that when Jonah asked me if like my kid asked me something, how I would respond, then he had you play my kid, but you thought you were talking to your own dad. I'm like, you guys don't know each other at all.

Right. Like, am I wrong here? you don't even live together i mean i i'm looking at the two rooms yeah it's a very different style yeah that's true we don't live together we're i mean we're both adults why are you sitting on the floor yeah i'm definitely sitting on the floor. That's true. Or you have this very tall bed. Or a really tall bed. One of you sleeps in a top bunk and there's no bottom bunk. I think what you're detecting from Sean is that, especially when it comes to scene work,

is he taking him properly? Yes, he's trained. Yes. But when it comes to scene craft the bracelet was something of a constant for him and so when he was immersed in the scene environment he could look at his constant and be anchored and say like okay i know this is a scene i know this is i'm not actually their daddy like it it could it's the restriction that provides the freedom, if that makes sense.

Like I am able to take such flights of fancy because I remain grounded in this bracelet and having that allows me to go be your dad or a skipp it devouring giant or uh you know a walrus on mars i mean these improv shows go really really crazy like i've been in some scenes that are like so nuts like it's like a dream almost did you take improv classes? Have you taken them? Yes, I have. I have also. Jonah, you took them too. I took a couple.

Jonah, yeah, did you take them? I did, yeah. I mean, it wasn't sort of like this type of master class we're getting here, but it was good. I learned some things. He did a show called Master Class too. But that's not this show. It's not.

But you could do, you know, if you want to do that you could do that show too i haven't done it for like two years they're a sponsor for today's episode oh yeah oh master class is a sponsor so master class the subscription website is a sponsor for today's episode wow that really was what's a copy let's pull up the copy you watched any of that stuff? I've heard of it. You heard of it? Yeah. Interested.

Yeah. Why don't you take a master class in? What? You want to learn to shoot basketballs from Steph Curry? Or play poker from Daniel Negreanu? This NBA draft, it's almost troubling

how many of these like teenagers got drafted and every single one had never played basketball before and then they watched the Steph Curry masterclass on shooting basketballs

every single one went to number one they all got drafted number one in the NBA draft, which has never even been considered to be possible before. Has not happened. Every single team got to pick number one, and they all picked these master class kits. That seems like a little confusing that every team would get to pick number one

because doesn't number one... That's how good they all were this year. They were all so good that every single one of them got picked. Number one. Everyone did such a good job. They had to be fair. It's also a part of our, everyone gets a trophy culture these days.

I don't want to get lost in this. The fact that like, okay, you're all number one in the draft. Like I agree. I agree that with Vanessa, that like okay you're all number one in the draft like i agree i agreed that with vanessa that cancel culture and this everyone gets a trophy thing we have going now is well yeah i mean it's like i said that vanessa and i haven't always seen eye to eye obviously but when she kind of

took it to the woke mob that has been ruling our culture lately i did start to go maybe we have more in common than i thought okay i don't know exactly what you're saying but i just don't want to necessarily be associated with it either do you remember you remember when you were a kid growing up and uh everyone was reading nintendo power. You remember Nintendo Power Magazine? Oh, yeah. But your parents wouldn't let you have Nintendo anymore because you kept burning yourself on it. You remember this? Got a bad burn.

They made you give it back. You somehow even burned yourself giving it back at the store. When you were handing it back, it was so hot. Yeah. And so you're not allowed to have nintendo anymore so you decide to make your own magazine called reading a book power magazine uh-huh do you remember this it's got little cheat codes for like reading a book do you not remember any of this how did you burn yourself on a nintendo kept burning himself is this what you do on your show people like share stuff with their

memories and you just and you're like what are you talking about it seemed i forgot that there's um it seemed like there was some interest from both of you of being on our podcast so well that's yes that's ideally what we're going to get to but So you want to. OK, I mean, I guess this is I guess I didn't mean to. Will Ferrell never burned himself on a Nintendo and then made reading a book power magazine is what I'm learning. But maybe that would make this a good episode because we're not doing the same thing he did. What was in reading a book power magazine? What else was in it? So this is the thing.

If you're going to make a magazine, what do you need? Pulp. You need so much tree pulp. Yeah. And you remember, dad has this whole room where he's got all this pulp. But he goes into and he's just like working with it. You don't know exactly. It's like adult stuff.

You don't know exactly what he's doing with the pulp. Is he going to miss the pulp if there's a little bit gone make it into a like a drink he can have but you say like oh like oh like you want to go in there get some of this pulp you remember so you can make reading is reading a book power magazine but then you go in there and you're like putting some of the pulp in a bat you're like trying to take some of the pulp with you so you could make your magazine. But it eats through the bag. You remember those thin bags? How bags used to be so thin?

Just to be fair, I think Jonah was asking more. Remember the bags weren't thick at all? The bags were, you just touch them and you're right through them. Every time you pick up the bag, you just have five fingers coming through the bag. They're too thin. So you're talking more about the material that the magazine was made of. I guess we're wondering more about the creative content inside of it. wondering more about like the creative content inside of it it's just a longer process than that i guess to like get straight from the the concept to imagine the magazine of a magazine like this is

what was printed on the page all the way to like the content like you actually have to make it first and so to do that you need huge amounts of pulp. So it eats through the bag, kind of splats on the ground, makes a big sound. And you hear dad getting out of his chair. Remember that sound dad would make when he's getting out of his chair at the other room? And he's coming to check on the pulp. Hi-yah! He's coming to check on the pulp and he makes a hi-yah sound. Yeah.

And you can feel that he's got chopping in midair. You can hear him chopping on his way to the pulp room because he thinks he's going to have to chop whoever went in there and went to get his pulp. I don't remember that. That doesn't mean it didn't happen to you. Right. And he's coming closer and closer to the door. The chopping, the wind of his arm it's getting louder and louder

and all the wind chimes in the hallway are starting to go off yes from the from the strength and violence of his chopping and then he gets closer and closer to the door and it's open a crack and you can see the the light in the door go dark as dad's silhouette is there. But then instead of opening the door, he shuts it and you hear it lock from the outside. He's going to starve out the person who was there to steal the pulp and he doesn't know it's you, the baby. I don't remember that. You don't remember? What is this show? I'm having trouble figuring out the show. Is this what you do? You just say, I don't remember that but you don't remember what is this show i'm having trouble is this is this what you do you just say i don't remember like people are like talking about

nintendo power magazine common experiences from childhood everyone knows magazine it can be sort of a nostalgic experience on our show that someone has that we didn't necessarily always have which is kind of what you're talking about it's something that we didn't necessarily experience uh but it's still shaped you into who you are today which is who you are what's a what's the closest version of this yeah what's something that happened to you there must be like some version you guys must have had some kind of some experience with pulp trying to collect pulp from dad and because once you're locked in that did the show so yes but once you're locked in the room like you realize how hungry you imagine you're their dad and somebody

goes like what's the biggest episode you've ever done and they go will ferrell it's like instead will ferrell it wasn't dad and also also making clear that they know their dad did the show oh yeah haven't forgotten the episode

yeah they just they just think it sucked well we said Will Ferrell was one of the more popular ones

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bed at night but there's like a big rotating spotlight over the prison yard that like illuminates your window and then you're afraid that your parents are going to find the bullet shells so you go to slam your door but your finger's still in the door and then your nail falls off your finger so is this another thing you're saying to us because you're sort of like i'd be great on your podcast because i this this is an example of a nostalgic thing that we go everybody would go we're just talking about you're looking for common experiences well it's yeah it's something that happens when you're a kid is like you we do it on our show sometimes too it's not like you

guys have like a monopoly on like talking about right and memories talking about the past like we do this stuff too like no history is one of our greatest teachers yeah so do you remember that or not i personally don't jonah i don't know if you do or not i don't have a specific memory of that i'm sorry to say and yeah because like what part don't you didn't go look for anything you didn't find anything you didn't have any light shining in your room there was no light at all it was just dark all the time you just described like a really specific series of events that it sounds like jonah and i neither of us have ever had and i think that's okay that it's unique to you or maybe both of you have experienced it which is

pretty well everyone's experience going to look for something and probably finding something else well yes but that's not what you said exactly what i said i went for a walk by the railroad tracks to look for muskrats. I looked down at my feet, realized there were a lot of bullet shells. Then I sort of deduced that I was standing in a makeshift shooting range for prison guards because I lived so close to a correctional institute. And then at night there was a big rotating light over the prison yard that would illuminate my window. We heard the whole, yeah.

His nail fell off. I had closed my hand in the door hinge. Okay, I think we misunderstood the question because I took it to mean, has this exact thing happened to you? Where it sounds like what you're asking is, have you ever gone to look for something and found something else?

And yes, the answer to that is yes. And yes. Well, okay. So, yeah. So we're onto something. Is this what the show is? What'd you look for? And what'd you find?

Right? I feel like sometimes I'm looking for something. I'm rummaging through a drawer. I don't go in a lot. I find like. Yes. Shut the drawer and your nail falls off. Yeah.

Clothes are on your hand. Yes. Whole part of your finger turns blue. And it's the one nail that wasn't already falling off. Of course. on your hand. Yes. Whole part of your finger turns blue and then like your nail And it's the one nail that wasn't already falling off of course. Isn't it always the one nail? Yeah. It's on the same thumb

that you burn too. On Nintendo. I was thinking on the Nintendo. I was thinking more like a gift card maybe you forgot about. Gift card. Right. A gift card. You burned yourself on a gift card? Gift card to the railroad tracks. Go down to Cajun Inn.

No muskrats around, but what is it by your foot? Oh, damn, dude. It's a casing. I mean, it happens to everybody. But where are all the muskrats? Where did all the muskrats go? Well, they're probably scared of the sound. Prison guards are

blasting off down here. But you used to see them. I feel like when we were kids, they used to be like... Oh, dude. Anybody else miss the muskrats? They used to walk to town all in a row?

They'd all stop at once like they heard something? How did they know to all stop at the same time and then keep going when they knew it was safe um you remember that i don't remember that um but i'm having so much trouble what kind of what kind of what kind of town did you grow up in yeah what's the town we grew up in a suburb of Cleveland. Okay. Yeah, so did I. Yep, same.

Where did you two grow up? Suburb. What? Suburb. Suburb. He's from suburb. I'm from North Suburbank. Where are you from? Suburbank. North Suburb. He's from Suburb. I'm from North Suburbank. Where are you from? North Suburbank.

And those are both suburbs of Cleveland? Of what you said, yes. Suburb Cleveland, yeah. Okay, well I've never heard of those but that's so funny that we're all from suburbs of Cleveland.

That we all became funny. Yes, that's funny funny that we're all from suburbs of cleveland that we all became funny yes that's funny that you guys became weird getting at let's have fun it's so funny we're all the same place we all took improv class like come on yeah look at us now let's dig in you know yeah right that's right and we're doing it we're here we're the show. We're going to do your show. Once we figure out what it is, what even happens. That's right. What even happens. Yeah.

They'd walk into the store. All the muskrats would gather. Get on each other's shoulders in the store. And people would be like, why are they doing that? Oh, so there's enough weight on the automatic door pad to open it up and then they would all topple forward you'd be like oh it looks like they're gonna get hurt right but then they they would just like land so gently they just all be be back in the line yes like liquid they would just like it was as if they became liquid getting into the store, and then they would just go absolutely postal in there.

It really was a puddle of muskrats, and then it was just fucking man. Once they were in there, just go completely postal. Wow. Helter skelter shit. It was fucking nuts, dude. A lot of people got hurt. Revenge maybe for being scared by the sound yeah driven from their their natural environment yeah right you ever see an animal

so i just like he was he was starting to say something i'm just working so hard to make you comfortable on the show. No, we are comfortable. We are comfortable. I think I said this earlier in this episode, but I just want to say it again. Just because you have some kind of nostalgic experience doesn't mean everyone has had it. And that's okay. So it just seems like you guys have

talking about a lot of really specific experiences and things that you remember. And it just because Jonah and I maybe haven't experienced those things doesn't mean, you know, there's nothing wrong with that, but just because you've experienced them doesn't mean that we have also. Do you remember when you finally got your own phone line? Like, you know, the family had a phone line and it was like, you got your own phone line. And it was like, wow, I feel like such a grown up. I feel like this is about to get really specific. I remember that. Yeah, I remember. And you had your own phone in your room and it wasn't your parents' phone anymore. But your main phone number in the house was unlisted because your father

worked for the state police but then the new phone number was listed under his name when he when he signed up for it and so then like somebody who either had arrested or just had beef with him at work like placed a bunch of personal ads with the new phone number like looking for like kind of like different like uh sexual experiences and so then you started getting you know all these messages from really horny people on your answering machine because of a personal ad that was placed in your dad's name and you were 12 yeah so i don't remember that okay all right i don't know how to do the show. I do not know how to do it. No, I mean, generally, it's not that hard for people to come on our show. I mean, they just, again, they talk about something, you know, usually something a little

slightly more general than kind of the scenarios that you're both explaining. What's more general than the telephone, you know? I'll take the note if i could respond with a note sure go sure go right ahead i think we should give each other a little bit of grace i think all of us in this were like wow coming out of the pandemic i think we could all i think we could all just use a little grace right now thinking about yeah the state that the world is in we're coming out of the pandemic right right yeah um i know i'm on strike yeah same so am i and so i i think if someone says to you something like hey i got burned by nintendo by nintendo

instead of saying okay i didn't get burned on that exact object right you can say oh well I was burned I got burned as well Sega Genesis

on this yeah like on this thing instead of burned by a guy okay my nail didn't fall off but this part of me

fell off yeah yeah I had yeah right you know so we can find ways to give each other grace make

like sort of re-establish these bonds that are that become somewhat frayed i'm surprised because you have this show that you say has been getting so popular and you were like really kind of crowing about how popular it's becoming i don't know if that's what I did, but go ahead. And the show, I guess, is you focusing on our differences when I really think this could be a time to focus on what's the same. What? Because fundamentally, what is the same? Because fundamentally, we are all human beings, you know? And we do have these shared life experiences. Maybe it's not burned all human beings you know and we do have these shared

life experiences maybe it's not burned on nintendo you know maybe you didn't find a bullet shell but maybe you found a butterfly knife and realized that someone was like training with that yeah we have those moments i think we do have those moments i mean we'll accept that note that's a great note so thank you for that yeah because i'm taking your note thank you for accepting that yeah but but we do yeah i mean i think if we haven't had the exact same like vanessa said specific situations we say oh i remember this thing i remember this toy this thing so i think there is a connection that way i agree what's a story that someone came on your show and told ever before like what did will ferrell talk about from when he was when he was a kid doesn't have to

be him well if you have a different guest you'd like to brag about like i mean whatever like yeah well with will we talked about scooby-doo that show scooby-doo scooby-doo was a guest scooby-doo wasn't a guest but Okay. Just, oh, okay. I thought, is there another name you want to drop? Is there another guest you want to brag about? And then it's, I thought you might do a thing where like, with us,

you're talking about Will Ferrell in his episode. With Will Ferrell, you just talked about like the Scooby-Doo episode. I thought that might be. Yeah. It seems like you guys are asking a lot of questions and then kind of finding. Posting the show. Is that,

is that, is that what you mean? We're. Post conducting a thorough interview i i was just saying it seems like you're sort of funny you're sort of um picking up on specific you're sort of molding it's hard to explain what you're doing but it's thank... Thank you, yes. It is. It's not easy. It's not an easy job. It makes it almost impossible to kind of get on the same pages as you guys. I don't know if you've heard that before. Y'all have been in the host seat

before. It's a mixed bag. That's true. That's true. It's not always easy. God knows not all the guests make it easy so he watched scooby-doo it's just not that good a story i mean like i feel like our i feel like our both of our stories were better than that stuff like reading a book power magazine is like that's like we're not gonna

like rehash the whole episode because this is your this is a different podcast episode you know we want to well it's trying to be but it's not yet like i don't think this episode knows what it is we haven't tried rehashing a different podcast that could be what like finally gels the premise of our podcast is uh talking about nostalgic things from growing up what what would you say the premise of your podcast is let's try and you know try we're trying to get you know yeah trying to get on your podcast yeah from growing up from growing up from when we were growing up in but in every episode what's sort of the theme trying to get on the podcast of the people that are doing our show.

Yeah, other people do the show. So then we do their podcast. More people come listen to our podcast. Then we try and get on a new podcast. I see. Okay. So it's kind of the podcast is a vehicle for you to get on other podcasts. It's a community, isn't it?

Yeah. A podcasting. It's a village. Are you on Will ferrell's podcast network yes okay so that's that's what it so that's what it takes he needs to have a piece so he needs to have a piece i don't so that's what we're learning okay got two which is fine which is totally fine and we're sort of looking to have conversations about maybe going elsewhere. Yeah.

We've been here for a little while. Yeah. Right. Right. Not seeing that Amir has as much juice as Will Ferrell. And I don't expect you to know who that is. Okay. So he's got his beak wet.

That's good. Good for him. And it's the same thing with him. He'll basically only... He'll barely it's a credit to will ferrell that it seems like he will actually show up for work like when like when when you are doing the podcast like hit the hill actually like put his ass on the chair and do the work which is sit down and do it go like i remember sc remember Scooby-Doo. Yeah. And I haven't heard this specific episode, but how many minutes are we doing on Scooby Snacks?

What was in those things? I don't know that we talked about Scooby Snacks. I don't think we talked about the snacks. You didn't touch Scooby Snacks? Okay, so we can come back and do that. Okay. We can come do that for sure. We absolutely can do it.

Yes. We'll be like, Should kids be watching this? And making your own out of the pulp. You're locked in there. You got to eat something. Okay, we're back in the pulp closet. You're sort of seeking. This is much bigger than a closet.

This is a big room with very high ceilings. When it's dark in there, it feels even bigger. Okay. And you're seeking, you know, you got to eat. You're so hungry. And you just take a tiny little finger, like, scoop of the pulp. Oh, it's so nasty. But you can feel that it does have nutrients in it.

You can taste it. It is keeping you alive. Sour pulp. It seems like you guys don't necessarily need to be guests on our podcast because it's almost as if we're doing an episode well it it feels like this is turned into sort of a nostalgic podcast at least for both of you so that's we're already covering a lot of nostalgic ground so maybe i'm getting nostalgic for the bracelet conversation because i feel like it's

it's we were close to maybe figuring out where right that's your constant to yeah yeah the bracelet and it's again like he says need or want yeah you totally ignore the question and just start like just barrel through with like your agenda I'm only speaking to what I feel personally and rather like I feel like I can be a pretty good judge of that maybe better than like another person

and I want to be on your podcast every day every episode wow that's so nice and so do we talk to will or like is he like how like i can get i can have any memory you want like i can say that scooby-doo made me weird i think it was just a cartoon but yeah that made me so weird like it wasn't the prison light in my window it wasn't the rotating spotlight we'd want you to talk about something that really feels true to you and really happened you know doesn't seem like it it doesn't seem like you it does not seem like what you want

does not seem like what you have been enjoying okay so amir's not i mean we can see it like he's not even here like we were saying and so like we do not feel super taken care of here right right is will there no we're at our houses yeah okay yeah okay sean do you want to talk do you want to talk about any of that stuff you were you were saying before Hayes showed up what do you mean just like Hayes like like his phone call stuff

yeah he gets a lot of phone calls why do you get so many phone calls I think that's a good topic that's a great topic okay and this is they're actually doing a pretty good job. Sure.

We can get into that. I guess when you're in the pulp room, one thing you kind of are feeling is that it would be really nice to be able to make a phone call. really nice to be able to make a phone call. The appreciation for that stays with you. And so you just kind of feel a little safer when you're on the phone. Okay. You know what I mean?

You made the pulp into Scooby Snacks to kind of make it fun. Then you realize that you've shaped the Scooby Snacks like a dog. Your head head, they're shaped like a dog, but they're probably not. No, because they're snacks for a dog. What were they shaped? But then you're just like, are they shaped like nothing? What were they shaped like? Were they just little circles? Were they just a nugget?

Just a general nugget? Like, what were the Scooby Snacks shaped like? What is the shape of the Scooby Snacks? Does anyone even remember? What are the Scooby Snacks shaped like? does anyone does anyone even remember what are the scooby snacks shaped like so you're saying being locked in the pulp closet as a kid made you want to and not be able to make a phone phone i'm sorry that's fine excuse me excuse me being locked in the enormous pulp room as a child and not being able to make phone calls from there bigger inside than it is outside okay

this pulp space now it makes you as an adult who's free to use the phone really want to take advantage of being on phone calls dog treats are never shaped like a dog no but but in your head it isn't don't you don't you kind of feel like Scooby Snacks were maybe shaped like little dogs? I think if they sold them, they'd look like Scooby-Doo. Like if they sold them, they'd be shaped like him. And they said, no, you can have your own Scooby Snacks. I don't think what he's eating looks like a dog. And I almost think they might have did that.

I almost think they actually might have did that. Kevin? Yes? Look it up. Fucking. Do you have a producer on your thing? We do, yes. Yeah.

What's the rapport like? What's the rapport like? I would say we're pretty respectful of her. Wow. And she feels like she's treated well there because you guys respect her? I think so. Yeah. Bye.