Hollywood Handbook - Wayne Brady, Our Close Friend

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

The Boys ask WAYNE BRADY to help them do a big episode 600 with a major rebrand. Check out his new show Wayne Brady's What If?! with Jonathan Mangum on Apple Podcast and YouTube!Get a Hat Pack Hat here!Watch the video of today’s episode on YouTube here!Like the show? Rate Hollywood Handbook 5-Stars on Apple PodcastsAdvertise on Hollywood Handbook via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Yeah, so that wouldn't be the theme song. You didn't hear it, so it doesn't matter, but that's the theme song for the normal show that we were doing. Right, but this is the 600th. This is the 600th, exactly. Thank you, yes. So you can't have that. Someone understands.

We can't have that. We can't have that. We're not gonna hear that. I'm following you. I am with you on this ride. No, I know. Okay, thank you. I appreciate it. Not everyone has been with us on the ride, Kevin.

I do just wanna run through it one more time, just so we have it exactly, like, you know, we don't have... We'll get it right. You go, and then I'll jump in. We only have an hour, which we're so grateful for. through it one more time just so we have it exactly like you know we don't have we'll get it right you go and then I'll we only have an hour you leave out anywhere and so grateful for but I think three would have been three hours a night yeah that would have been we were working on three hours we were working on getting the three hours you and your team me and my team we sat down we were doing the whole thing I had the Google calendar, my iCalendar,

we laid them on top of each other. You have to. And I was like, no. You have to drag them over to the same window. Well, it was Minority Report style. I was moving things. So you just lay the, yeah. I was just waving it, and then I just saw that

it just gave me an hour. It didn't, it was just one hour. It was just one hour for the three. It was just one. And like I said, we are so grateful for it and grateful to your team as well. But. They are a dream. Yeah.

I mean, you must wake up every day and go, thank you for my team. Well, yeah, like I roll over and I say, team, I'm so happy you're here. I'm so happy you're here. You roll over, because you're sleeping like completely face down. But like. Like, no, no, no. Well here. You roll over because you're sleeping like completely face down.

But like. Like, no, no, no. We, well, when I roll over, because my side of the bed is my side of the bed, but it's a big, huge Hollywood star bed. It's a big team. It's a big team. So I'm here and the publicist is there.

Uh, the publicist, the assistant, the dog walker, and, uh, then the various other serfs. Yeah, chef. They are on that side. Yes, chef. I think people don't understand when they hear like, oh, like my agent gets 10% or whatever, like that's of the bed.

Yeah, like. Right, they get 10% of the bed. Yes, which, where the big Hollywood star bed is like, that's significant. And 10% of the huts too. That's pretty good. No, yeah. Yeah, 10% of the lovin', that's not for nothin'. Yeah, of course, yes.

And twin bed comes from, I mean, that's what I call my agent. Like, my agent calls, like, what's up, twin? What's up, twin? That's where twin bed comes from. That, you know, that makes complete sense now. Right? You just- Well, it didn't make sense before.

You just schooled me, because I'm like, twin bed makes no sense to me on its own. No, it didn't make sense before. You just schooled me, because I'm like, twin bed makes no sense to me on its own. No, it didn't make sense. But obviously, I call my manager Queen and my manager King. Yeah, of course. Yes. Yes, Queen. Yes, Queen, yes.

Yes, Queen, yes. You go, King. Go off, King, yeah. Yes. Go off, King. Okay, full. All right, California King. Yes.

Shaw. Yeah. Okay, but I do wanna just get us back to the premise, because we do only have an hour. Yes, I. Yeah. Okay. But I do want to just get us back to the premise because we like, we do only have an hour. Yes, I'm ready. So we need to do a big show. Okay. For the 600th. Well, doing just a big show is not enough.

I don't mean to cut you off already. Yes. No, go ahead. We've done big shows before. Doing a big show is not enough. We've done big shows before. We've tried that. What's the biggest show you've done?

We had. Have you guys had Macy Gray? You know, that. What's the biggest show you've done? Oh. We had. Have you guys had Macy Gray? You know, that is another calendar thing, where between the iCal and the Google Cal, they're not lining up. She has a big bed. Because we can't do Macy in one hour.

No, you can't, dude. No, no, you need like four. Yeah. You need four. Yeah. Just an hour for the discography and the other three just to revel. Yeah. Oh, there's so much revel. You really have to the discography and the other three just to revel. Yeah.

Oh, there's so much revel. You really have to carve out so much revel in that. I know. No, we had Stacey Brown. Stacey Brown? We had Stacey Brown. Yeah, we did have Macy Gray. We had Stacey Brown who was like doing a kind of similar

thing, we'll let go. Yeah, she's sort of a, it's not an impression, but it's inspired by what Macy does. Now, would I be really, I, who is Stacey Brown? I think it'd be good if just for the pocket, and like we can like cut and come back to stuff, but like you should probably know who that is. And you should be a little impressed because it's, it's. Okay.

So that's, that's kind of the reaction that. Oh wow. May I look on my phone right now so that when we cut. She's not gonna be in there. And I come back. She's not like, you're definitely not gonna wanna have looked on your phone. Oh, but then how would I know who Stacey Brown is?

Okay, okay. Oh, all right, ready? So Macy Gray. He's ready, it sounds like he's ready to go. No, I'm ready. And Stacey Brown. Did you, you guys are shitting me, right? I would not lie about something like that. Honestly, we don't have time.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Because we only have this one. We only have an hour, but we're already gonna use some of this because the fact that you had Stacey Brown, I've been trying to get Stacey Brown on my podcast. Okay. You have?

Yes. And Stacey Brown's people won't talk to my people. When, talk about your podcast because you're in the Headgun family now, and again, we only have a really short time. And it is a family. Yes. No, it's a big family, and like a family,

we all use the same furniture, which I think is amazing. Yes. Which is very nice. Like a team. Like the poor family who we sleep here in shifts. Mm-hmm. Yes, it's like Charlie Bucket's family, isn't it?

You will not believe me, that's the reference I was just gonna use, one of us is grandpa. Uh-huh, I don't believe you. As we're laying here, one of us is grandpa. Yes. And then we don't get up until we have to dance. Uh-huh, that's right, until it's time to dance. It's true, and it's time to dance right now, isn't it?

This is our dancing. Man, this makes me so happy. And so in my headgum family, the What If podcast, it's called Wayne Brady's What If with Jonathan Mangum, who is my co-host and my brother, my Sergeant Arms. It's a very simple premise. It's an improvisational podcast that really, you guys know improvisation.

It's just what if. The whole thing is, you know, that if you came on, we would just have a conversation. I may, maybe I'd ask you about your life. I'd ask you where you guys are from. And we just shoot the shit. And at certain points in your con. Please don't do, if I go on,

please don't ask me about my life. No, but I'd have to. There's some, like some things are off limits and like his life is gonna be. Well, now I need to know. Let's just, just. No, it's so too much of a life. I have to have some kind of boundary, you... No, it's so too much of a life.

I have to have some kind of boundary, you know what I mean? Something has to be mine. So we'll pretend that this is an episode of What If? So let's just say that I am co-opting your podcast and we're doing What If right now. Okay. Okay, yeah, we don't really like to do that on this show,

but we have to. Okay, but let's do that right now then. So, so, so, so you're my guest, and I say, Hey, welcome to what if, and then you introduce yourself. Hi, I'm sorry. And that's, that's how you introduce yourself? Yeah.

Why would you do that? I just get really scared. Like the idea that you're going to ask me about my life. Okay. So what if I don't ask you about your life? Okay. So let's talk around your life. Okay, so what did you do today?

Ah. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Today, especially that I got like, this day in particular. This day in particular has been really tough. Whatever the day is. Just carrying a Prode 600, then like, yeah. Today is the worst day of the rest of your life.

Okay, no, no, no. Okay, this is good because this is really showing the yes and of improvisation. So I can roll with it. And like you said, like we do know improvisation. We know it enough to stay away from that. We like to really have everything. We like to have a nice TikTok. You can feel obviously that. The rigidity.

Yeah. This is a well oiled machine. Oh, I can. You get on this podcast and it's like, obviously between all the scheduling and everything, like we walked you through the beats of it. And just to like, the premise of your show is very simple, the premise of this show is very simple as well. And I do just want to steer us back to that.

Let's go back to that. Because I'm not going to find out about your life, right? Well, I just... I just can't. Okay. Thank you for being so respectful of his can't. No, because I, you look like your boundaries are not porous and I don't wanna be the one to try to shove myself

in any crack in your boundary. Okay, well this is, now I feel like you do know about my life. I feel like I do know you. Yeah. I feel like I do know you. Yeah. And now that I know you, I don't want to talk to you. So tell us more about- Has the porousness gotten out?

Like that's like- People are talking about the porousness. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So people are, so that's- Cause that's actually one of the things that- So that's conversation in the hallways out here

and stuff at Head Gum, right? Cause I can feel feel people get real quiet the second I step out of the room. As soon as you walk through, well when I met you. And it seems like they're talking about the porousness. As soon as I met you, I detected that. I actually heard the little

whistling of the wind through the porous nature of your boundaries. Yeah. But it's okay. Yes I am. That's a song, I mean everyone has a different song You know everyone has a song this song the wind going through his porous parts the wind through your holes The wind through my some someday I'm gonna record that song for you

Oh my god, and if we I think we will probably have to record some songs on this as as well. Yeah I just I if we get there well Well, because we're going to need a theme song. We're obviously not going to use that one. Oh, right, we got to do a theme song. Headlines. We have to make headlines with the 600th. We have to, like, be able to put out a press release and have it be something that people will cover.

They have not wanted to cover the version of the show that we have been doing for 599 episodes. So. So you haven't gotten any press? We got, there's a newspaper called Fish Newspaper. Okay. And it is perfect. F-I-S-H or P-H, like the band. It's F-I-S-H.

Okay, she's making sure. Oh, Fish Newspaper with a P-H. That would be enormous. From your lips to God's ears. That would've been amazing. If we could get in that way, yeah. That would be. And it's just designed to like, people were using just like normal newspaper. So it fills would be. And it's just designed to, people were using

just like normal newspapers, so it fills a need. Like it's a useful thing. It's just designed to catch the juice. More useful than a lot of the newspapers that are. Totally, because like normal newspaper were like letting the juice of the fish just like come out onto your hands. There's ink getting everywhere,

but they need something to write about in the newspaper too. It's not a newspaper if it doesn't have articles. They gotta fill a whole newspaper. Right, because then it's just paper. Yeah, exactly. So they did an article about us having a really bad podcast. Yeah. Huh.

Yeah. Okay, okay. So now we need press. So we've gotten press. Right. And they say no press. All press is good press. All press this is good press all press is good press Yeah, I'll press is that so that's the phrase has been changed to it's an altered slightly

I'll also do a count for there's an asterisk some press is bad press. Yes. Yeah a press Yeah, a press is bad press. Yeah, which is the article the 29th Bad press they should these these guys, yeah. When other people are saying, and when we're not around, which frankly we often are, when people are talking about us. But look at it as- These guys' press was bad press.

It could be the window, your press was bad press. That's the past, that's the past. The was is important, isn't it? The was. That's the key, not bad. Your press was bad press. I'm not still living in that bitch. You have to say, Your press was bad press. I'm not still living in that bitch newspaper article.

Your press was bad press. Your press was bad press. Yeah. And so here is how we turn that around. We change the name of the feed of our show, this episode and every past episode, to Be Our Guest Brady. And we put out in a press release

that we have been doing a show for now 600 episodes where the entire premise was getting Wayne Brady as our guest. Can we somehow get to Wayne Brady? We've had some near misses. Getting one hour. We've had people in your life. Yeah, well ideally, yeah.

But that's a norm, you know. That's like, that wouldn't be part of the press release. Oh, gotcha. Ideally, like the hour aspect of it. Like we don't wanna center it. We'd kind of bury that. I mean, Fish newspaper might bring that up, but we would hope that the rest of the, you know, the outlets would...

Because they do this. This guy did one with Tom Hanks. It was a show about how, like, Tom Hanks... The whole thing was about a story, met Tom Hanks. ...was, like, mean to him or something. And then Tom Hanks came on. And then he came on the episode,

-"Did you hear about this?" -"I don't remember that." Yeah. And then it was like, all the news. Right, because Tom Hanks is famously one of the nicest guys in Hollywood. Yeah. Sure, yeah, except he was really mean to this guy. He was mean to this one guy.

This guy wanted to be in a movie, and Tom Hanks said, no, you can't be in this movie. It might have been a show. Oh, that's right. No, he got cast. Well. He actually got cast. I don that's right. He got, no, he got cast. Well, yeah. He actually got cast and he was fired. I don't wanna tell his whole story, yeah,

because they've gotten a lot of press. So if we make this show about that too. And so you see how your eyes look, you sat up and sat forward talking about that different podcast. I see where we're going with it. But you know why you know about it? Because he got the guy that the show was about. So if we can make it that you're the guy the show's about.

And that was all fucking bullshit too, by the way. Like he hadn't been doing, he got Tom Hanks, had not been doing a show about any of that crap. He just retrofitted the story. No one had been listening to it. He retrofitted it. Yes. I get you.

Yes. He was just like, oh, and by the way, the whole time I was talking about Tom Hanks, he just fucking saw Tom Hanks, got him to record a little piece for him. What a, I completely get you. So this show, as far as we're all concerned, Exactly.

Is, and always has been, called Be Our Guest Brady. The fans, Colon searching for Wayne. Be Our Guest Brady, colon searching for Wayne. And I think that's a good compromise. He had really been pushing the searching for Wayne. Well, because you remember at one point they were searching for Richard Simmons.

Yeah. I think they got in trouble. Yes, and that was my bump on it because like that was not, we don't really want to be going down that path. So you don't want the searching part. But what if we pull it searching for Wayne? Searching for Wayne. Yes? Searching for Wayne.

Searching for Wayne. I think that I like the ring of that. And I'm already on board. In fact, when we start taping, I'll say things like, guys, of course I came. Look, my phone is full of text messages from you asking me to be on your show. They go back. How long has the show been around? is full of text messages from you asking me to be on your show.

They go back, how long has the show been around? Well maybe we can record like seven years? We're gonna need to. 10. A little longer. Wow, 5'15? Not 15, oh come on, we're not even 14. That's 14 I think.

15? 13 or 14. Dude I've we're doing. We have 15. Yeah, 15. 13 or 14, yeah. Dude, I've got texts from 13-ish years ago from people that now I find out, it was the two of you haranguing me to be on your show. So maybe we can drop it, because we're gonna need to plug some stuff in old feeds. So if the media checks,

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Thanks. I've got a great idea. Okay. Oh my God. Let's go back. I will, I will, uh, pull up a conversation for let's say seven years ago. That's great. And I'll go, Hey, when I was at the barbershop, when I had hair, I was getting

texts from you guys. Then people can go back and Google search and they'll see seven years ago I wasn't bald. That's great. That you had hair. And then they'll know and it'll line up with the timeline. That one little truth disguises the lie. Devils in the details. And so here's me telling a story,

and we'll just drop this into an old one. So I run into the barbershop. Wayne is there. Wayne is sitting there with his famous. What do you want your hair to have been? Really tall? No, no, no, this was a jelly curl. Jelly curl?

The jelly curl. We'll call it a jelly curl cat. Like a jelly curl cat? Kind of. Like the famous jelly curl cat. Sure, like the jelly curl cat we all talk about. Yes, so like the jelly curl cat hairstyle. Sure. Like the jelly girl cat we all talked about. Yes.

So like the jelly curl cat hairstyle. Named after my hairstyle. And I also think the little detail that you should drop in is that when you dropped into the barbershop on MLK. Yes. With you and your boys. Yes. So make it very specific. Yes.

It was the barbershop on MLK and you and your boys. I dropped in the barbershop on MLK. It's MLK day. Yeah. Right. Hey, Wayne is there. And you were there with the boys. You had to be with your boys. You were with your boys.

I was with my boys. And you were getting a fade. Our boys, I mean, we had the same boys. And you were getting a fade. I was with our boys. And you were getting afraid. Our boys. I mean, we had the same boys. And you were getting afraid. I was with our boys. Well, and this is where I would get distracted. Oh, your boys, but somehow I wasn't invited. Ooh.

So what was you and your boys, but I wasn't there. So we finally see Wayne, who we've been searching for this entire time. And it's just coincidentally the day that you invited all of your boys except me? Well, I mean... Do I not get a haircut sometimes? What other boys do you not like?

We want to... Oh, you can't be in this episode, Wayne. Tell me that Hamish wasn't there. You cannot be in this episode because we're still searching for you at this time. Oh, no, I'm not in the episode. I'm merely helping you get your backstory right. Kevin can always, you know, nip and tuck this thing so that Wayne's not interrupting. Sean, me and Hamish and the boys

wanted to surprise you for your birthday, which he changed his birthday to MLK Day, just to be, like, supportive. Ally. Yeah. I just think that stuff is so good. It's not a lie actually, it's true. Oh, gotcha. And so we go in, Wayne's getting his jelly curls,

raspberry, and I get right up next to him, right behind him, because I know, I'm here to get a fade, but I also might catch a couple. like, you know, I'm here to get a fade, but I also might catch a couple. If I'm here, like trying to book, you know, we're here to, it's be our guest Brady. Yeah, it's be our guest Brady. And I'm a little worried that I'm a known commodity

at this point because of the nature of some of the texts that we've been sending. Because I've been talking to my barber constantly every Saturday when I go in. What's going on with you? I say, hey, Sharif, look, this dude just texted me again about being on his damn podcast, trying to search for Wayne. And then he says, man, that shit is horrible.

That shit is absolutely horrible. I was sure he would support us a little more. He's being a little hard on us. Come on. That bad. absolutely horrible. I wish Sharif would support us a little more. He's being a little hard on us. Come on. Not that bad. Horrible. He hates your podcast. Sharif has finely tuned podcasts.

He's like, I love comedy in all forms. Oh, he likes comedy podcasts specifically, but doesn't like ours. These cats, they are horrible. What are like, what are like his top 10 shows? Just like, just like a quick stop to. Yeah, it might be nice to do a segment on Be Our Guest Brady could probably be Sharif's top 10 comedy podcast. Maybe we'll say, this is great. In our searching for you, we've gotten some of your boys, like some of your circle, on previous episodes.

So here, if you do, if you, Sharif naming his top 10 comedy podcasts, we can drop that into the feed in an earlier episode. That's it. That's it, you know what, I think that's brilliant, because then Sharif will say, oh man, I like things like smartness. I find the humor, it touches me.

It is ironic, yet it is very smart. You feel like you're there. Well, the dynamic with those guys, you're just part of a funny conversation. It just, it drops you in and makes you feel like you're in the room, not outside of the room. And they tease each other, but there's love underneath it. Man, that camaraderie, I haven't had that since now.

Sharif Sharif. And that's what open up about now. It reminds you of Vietnam. Man, y'all know you miss Vietnam. I miss the war so much. I was I served with a dude named Willie Bateman. Willie Bateman. That's what reminds you.

That's why I like that other Bateman. Jason Bateman. Every time I see Jason Bateman do one of his ironic eye rolls and sarcastic sarcacity, I think of Willie Bateman stepping on that mind. That's what it felt like. You know what? Willie Bateman stepped out of mind.

You know what Willie Bateman was doing that Jason Bateman would talk about too when he was in Vietnam, coming in guns hot. We were 12 clicks right outside of Da Nang. It was on night patrol and I will never forget this. I said, let me go first, I'll be on point. And Willie looked at me and just like Jason Babin, he said, uh, and that was it.

He just said, uh, uh, uh. Yeah, you can't argue with that. And then he looked back at me. There's nothing to engage with. And man, I just felt, man, it filled me with warmth. Smartless, I mean, that's a tough one to bring up because when that started taking off, we, so like, as far as the show is concerned now,

his name is Sean and my name is Hayes. To just kind of like, and we went back and we dropped that in the feed. That was like kind of our first. Just to create a little confusion. Our first stab at this. Like to mess with their SEO a little bit. Just for them to accidentally find our show.

Did it work? It's so exciting. Oh my God, absolutely. We got our shit rocked. They erased us. Yeah. But- Sued me into the stone age. Double copyright violation.

Wait, but aren't you saying family is Smartless and the Headgum family? Wow. From your lips. I would say from your lips to God's ears, but if God heard that he. He may strike us down. Yes.

He would kick all of our ass. He's working for smartless. Yeah. No, they told you that, huh? They told you that, that smartless was in the headgum family. Is that part of what got you in the door here? And that's how they got you here. Cause I was wondering what is Wayne doing?

Well, that's what Sharif told me. It was Sharif. I think never get your insider, your Hollywood insider info from the guy that cuts your hair on MLK. Never do that, but I'm very trusting. Well, that's not what I found when I snuck up out of you while you were getting your haircut. Because, well, you don't sneak up on a dude

when he's getting his haircut. I think that's just kind of like, you know, like you have boundaries, I have boundaries. Then I would have appreciated another chance. If I like, if like you say like, you know, like you have boundaries, I have boundaries. Then I would have appreciated another chance. If I like, if I like, you say like, oh, you don't do that, well, now I know that. And now I like, but I'm not allowed to. And Sharif didn't like you.

So I'm very unforgiving. And Sharif didn't give you the pass at first. Because I didn't know his top ten comedy podcast. Because you didn't know. You didn't know. But he is a big fan of Nicole Byer. Nicole Byer. He is a big fan. Oh, man. Nicole Byer. He is a big fan.

Yes, so that's like, she's on headgum, so. Yeah, she always talking about why won't you date me? I woulda dated her, I absolutely woulda dated that woman. If she come down here, let's just say she gonna get a haircut. And that is a poorly worded euphemism. She gonna get her hair cut. The haircut's intercourse.

Yeah. Come on now, this is a smart one right here. Oh it is, wow, okay. I wasn't even sure. That is poorly worded. That's just, really I've never said it out loud. I've only thought it to myself. You've been thinking about it a lot.

As I walk around I say, it sounded okay in there. I'm gonna give her a haircut. I'm gonna use my brush. Okay. To give her a haircut. Wow. That doesn't work for either the haircut or intercourse.

Really? You also don't want to think of your phallus as scissors, you know? That's just really scary. Last time I thought about my phallus and scissors, I mean, that's just really scary. Last time I thought about my phallus and sizzle, it was 14 clicks outside of the neck. 14 clicks. Now that's pretty far. You're sort of staying, yeah.

You're getting farther. Everything's in relation to the thing. Yeah. Oh, I never actually fought in the war. Okay. You missed me. Um, I was war adjacent. I was abutted up next to the war zone,

but never went in. And we, so adjacent Bateman. We changed our podcast to that. Yeah, adjacent Bateman was also, that was us just trying to get people around him. But I think that this can work. I think that by using me. I think so too.

It's already working. It's already working. It's already working. I mean, this is the, this is the farthest we've ever gotten with any of these and like, and this episode so far has felt really good. I can't wait to start recording. And while we're here, like, well, and in terms of starting to record, we do need a new theme song.

Okay. We're not music guys. No, we're doing that. Like we're in that business as well. I would say I'm not trained. I am naturally musical. Right. You know, you can feel that.

But I don't have the training. What do you play? Yeah, so I'm not trained to play. So yes. Just exactly. What do you play? Yes, I mean exactly. What do I play?

Do you sing? Right. It's so, yeah, it's all around it, isn't it? Mm-hmm. All right, all right, okay. So you've got a musical aura. Isn't it true? Yeah, I think so.

And so that's sort of just a natural, yeah, aura is a great word for it that just like kind of emanates off me. So I don't need to like. Do the, play the instrument. You know? Right, because in a way, you've already played the instrument.

Yeah. That's deep. Yeah, but like, so we probably won't be driving the bus so much on the song. Okay. For the show. Just like as an air, it's Be Our Guest Brady, Be Our Guest, pretty famous song from a pretty famous movie.

We don't necessarily want to poke the mouse on that one, you know what I mean? So if we could do a sound-alike. Mm-hmm. Like a, be our guest. And it's also colon searching for Wayne. Be our guest. And it's also, just I think we're dropping colon

searching for Wayne sometimes when we talk about it. Right. So it is Be Our Guest Brady, and we can say Be Our Guest, but like also like, we say Searching for Wayne. I've got a pitch. What if we didn't sing the Be Our Guest Brady, let's really hone in on the Searching for Wayne. Okay, well great.

No, if you have a, no, that's a great idea. If you have a song, I'm sure there's a Searching for Wayne song. Well, there's a song called No Rain by Blind Melon and maybe it's that we have no Wayne. Okay, do they say, do they say no, where do they say no rain in the song? But there's no wane. That's right.

Yeah, all I can say is that my podcast pretty plain. Is my podcast pretty plain. I'm talking to my friend searching for a wane. Yes, that's right. Searching for no w Wayne. Yes, that's right. Searching, but no Wayne. Right. Yeah. But do we, we have to sound like that one too,

a little bit. Oh, he can't sound like that song. Yeah. All I can say. So he's like, he's a nut-foot. My life is pretty plain. My podcast is pretty plain. I'm talking to my friends searching for Wayne.

Okay, okay. I mean, like, no one is gonna smell that one out. No, no. Certainly not. No one's gonna sue you for that. Mm-hmm, because we don't wanna poke the bee on that one. Do not poke the bee. They're gonna poke the mouse.

They're gonna poke the mouse, you know? And all that I can do is bust in on his new hairdo and at the barbershop. At the barbershop from before. Yes. Yes. So then the, but then we will need a new- With me and my boys on MLK.

But then we will need a new theme song from before we did that. Okay. You know what I mean? So that happened over the course of the podcast. But that's cool. No, I think that is cool. The show, the song has evolved with the show. It's been evolving.

Yes, and our relationship has been evolving with it. Yes. You know? Uh, and so like we do eventually wanna get to- I mean, sorry, that hmm felt loaded to me. No, no, no, not loaded. Just really, I'm just trying to take it all in. I'm like, hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah, but I just, I feel like I know you pretty well now

and the hmm seemed really loaded. It was a, look, no, look, I'll be honest then, okay? I hate the idea. I hate the idea. I hate that theme song idea. I don't think you're doing yourselves a service and I feel like I know you guys now. So I'm invested in the show and how this is presented.

In fact, that's why I'm so glad that you've brought me aboard as a co-owner and an executive producer on it now. We would love to talk about that. You assuming some of the- Financial risk. That's exactly what I was going to say. Yeah. You know, like you really do know us now.

Yeah, it's true. That would be, that would be huge. Whoa. Hollywood handbook. Whoa. Hollywood handbook. Hey, if you wanna ask me about my life on your show, you can.

Oh, that's not the kind of show that I'm doing now. Oh. Because I'm now, I'm a part of your show. Now he's in this. But I'm this. Yeah. Okay, yeah, I just, I feel like we know each other now. Well.

So, I mean, let's talk a little about Sean's life. If I do ask you about your life, would that, how open do you plan on being with me? I mean, if he's coming on board. What's something that's really open? I just, I don't want to use book. Everyone says book. Mm-hmm, yeah. An open bag.

A bag, yes. I want your life to be an open bag. Mm-hmm. I'm as open, I'm an open bag. My life's an open bag to you. Okay. And if it's an open bag, then I can reach in and I can grab the goodies out of your bag that I want.

So beautiful. Yes. Let's talk. I mean, I mean, we can, I mean, if he's going to get invested, we can talk a little bit about what's going on. Yeah. Basically, some judges are mean. mean. Isn't it true? Just a power trip up there.

But some judges, they seem mean at first, but then you start chopping it up with them a little bit. It's a facade. You make them laugh once. Now when you say judges, do you mean judge in the legal sense? I mean judges, we have been before pretty much every judge in town.

Yeah. Oh, oh, wow. Yeah. For various crimes? No, just for the one, the one crime. But they keep, they keep bringing in more. It's crazy how many judges that can fit in a courtroom.

So the rumors are true then, because I'd always heard about the one crime, but I didn't know if it was real. Well, and neither do these judges. That's why they keep kind of comparing. I did not know this was a legal term. Certainly didn't know that it's been around for hundreds of years, but fraudcasting

is apparently a very serious crime. Yeah, it's like a SEC adjacent kind of thing. Or it's like, like, like, like, like, like,

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, If I had known that, I don't know that it would even have been appealing to me to start one. Or we would have like figured out some way to make money off it before. By lying. Yeah. Yes, so that we could pay some of these legal fees. I didn't know that you couldn't lie.

I thought that this was the one place that it was actually encouraged to embellish. Wayne, I'm happy that you're talking to us now. If we can be an example for other kids, like that would be. You don't wanna meet all these judges. That's all we wanna do, yeah. So on my podcast, what if I shouldn't lie, or else I would be fraudcasting?

Yes, and so the number of judges that have been brought onto this case has been good for us from an audience perspective, cause those are downloads. Okay. So we're juicing the numbers a little bit that way. They have to listen to the whole catalog because there's been a lot of lies.

What's the best judge that you've had? Lance. Judge Lance. Judge Lance. Judge Lance Edo? Yes, you know him. Okay, wow. Personally.

Yes. I don't use his last name. He said he knew you. He loves you. He said if we got you out of our podcast that he would at the very least split the sentence between the three of us instead of just the two of us. Judge Edo, wow.

If we could get you in jail where he could kind of like watch you and get to hang out with you. Most people only really know him from the OJ debacle, but I have to tell you, I, they know him as judge. I know him as friend. He is the one that taught me how to battle rap when I was coming up in the battle rap scene. Lance did.

Oh, I was familiar with his dancing. I had seen him dance a lot. Oh, that dude, amazing crumper, the West Coast style, style of crumping, you know, originated here on the West coast, right outside of the barbershop on MLK, but the battle rap style, style of crumping, originated here on the West Coast, right outside of the barbershop on MLK. But the battle rap scene, Lance Edo. Amazing rapper.

Lance Edo, they used to call him the truth because he was a judge and all of his battle rap, whoever he went up against, all of his schemes are always legal themed. Yeah, complicated legal, exciting precedents. So dude, Judge Lance Edo, Sting you like a mosquito, fortune at the end is like a mission burrito,

if you like a tostito. It was all on that Edo. Yes, yes, and then he would do the Edo. I don't think that's his real name, honestly. No, I think it really worked for the rhyme scheme. Yeah, yeah, it's his rhyme name. He's like, I'll sentence you beyond beliefs. Get you out them legal briefs.

Adjourned bitch adjourned. Make you want to burn. You've learned now I've turned. I discern this sentence. Oh, it was, I could quote his, his lyrics for days. Yes. Get you out those legal briefs. Get you out those legal briefs.

That shook me up. Maybe war. That really had me shook up. And he was always shirtless. Uh huh. Yes. So hot. Mm hmm.

He, and under the robe he is too. And you can kind of like, every once in a while he'll kind of scratch in there and. No, but, but, but he gives you shirtless under a robe vibes. Oh yeah. He, I mean, let's just say it. I mean, he's got a washboard back there.

It feels like when, when he like scratches his abs, I feel like I'm listening to a jug band. Emmett Otters? I feel like I'm listening to Emmett Otters' jug band. That's the kind of work that he's put in. I'm so glad that you knew that. That's how I really know who I wanna be, my friends. The fact that you knew who Emmett Otters.

Emmett Otters' jug band? Yes. Oh, just by nodding and saying yes? Yes. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's what I do when I know something. When I nod, I say yes. You didn't even talk about the Riverbottom gig. You didn't even talk, that's why I know I like you more.

Oh good. Screw Hamish. Since I was the only one that didn't do a Judgito rap that I was kind of on the bottom. I like you better than Hamish. Oh, that's so good to hear because not a lot of people say that. And again, it was Hamish, but my name for the show now is Hayes,

just so we have, because again, the legal implications are not a joke. We had two Hamishes, we had Hazen, we had Hamish Winkatter. And that was part of the advantage of changing it because like just the number of Hamishes. So are we going with, so in terms of your theme song, because I wanna make sure that we nail that.

Let's do the song, yeah. So we're doing like a song, song like a Where in the World is Carmine is Carmen San Diego type vibe. I like Carmine just so we don't get in trouble with that. Where in the world is Carmine? Detroit. Detroit. And then you just answer it.

Yeah. Like what's, like all these games. Let's just say where she is. She's in Detroit. She's at Ford Field. They could have saved themselves so much time. So much time. So Judge, I mean, like this is what happened with OJ too.

Like, Judge Edo becomes a fan of someone and then he tries to, like, pin something on them and, like, put them in jail. And he has, and he has become... An Uber fan of you guys? Well, really of yours. And so, like, if we can get you on the show, do, like, change our show to be our guest Brady searching for Wayne. So like if we can get you on the show,

change our show to Be Our Guest Brady, Searching for Wayne, then. Just leave it, it would really. How about Be Our Guest Brady, The Search? It's got a little more urgency, The Search for Wayne, not searching for Wayne. I'm just telling you, you lost him. You're gonna have to take that up with him. He's not gonna like that at all. It's not active.

Wow. I mean, there aren't any bad ideas in a spitball session, right? I mean, I didn't think so. Stuff. Prior to today, I didn't think so. They always took that position. They're going to have to change that. I always took that position.

Yeah. Yeah. It's just like there used to be no bad press. There used to be no bad ideas in a spitball session. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. Well, I learned something today too.

But the search, ew. How about the search? The? The? Instead of the. The, I think it makes. Two E's. The, the search.

And use an accent. The search. Wait, what? Not an offensive one. And we wanna cut that out. Let's do like a normal. Yeah, I think you can stick with British. That's, yeah, that's fine.

Okay, all right. The search. Okay. It's like research to me now. They search. How about they search for Wayne. They search for Wayne. And I do that? Okay, so we can plug that into,

then that sounds like almost exactly like Hamish. Hamish is like Scottish, but is like kind of wants to be posh, you know what I mean? Oh, okay. He's trying to like get rid of the- The search for Wayne. Yeah. The search for Wayne is Wayne.

But you say to Hamish, like, aren't you Scottish? And he goes, nay. It's like, okay, you said nay. Yeah. I think you're Scottish. Yeah, it's a very Scottish way to say no. Hamish, so we have let Judge Edo, Judge Edo needs someone to like, as collateral,

to just kind of hang on to. So Hamish is locked up. He's in the judge's quarters. My name was originally Hamish, it was pretty easy to kind of confuse the situation. Like, okay, you got Hamish. We'll let you hold Hamish while I go out and get Wayne. Well, how long has Hamish been held? I mean, we've been doing the show for, like, okay, you got Hamish. We'll let you hold Hamish while I go out and get Wayne. We promise you Hamish. Yeah.

Well, how long has Hamish been held? I mean, we've been doing the show for, like you said, not like a little over 10 years, but not 15 years. So Hamish has been held all this time? I mean, since, yeah, since we started doing the show. Yeah, we got, like, we got- We did a couple episodes of the show. We got busted for fraud casting.

Then we kind of gave Hamish his collateral. And we've been talking to Lance the whole time. So when do we get Hamish back? That's what we're asking you, basically. That's what you're here for. And we have not, we've heard a lot of ideas for a song. We haven't really done a song yet. So let's do the song really quick

and we can just jump right into it because we want to actually get to the episode, the six other episodes. Right, we've just been talking about it so far. Of the Eric S. Brady Searching from Wayne, where we actually have Wayne Brady on the show and from there we can kind of improvise a little bit. So let's try. A little bit.

So as we were talking, I've written the song. Okay. So I think it should be I've written a song. Okay. So I think it should be, we should do something that no one else is doing. Is that kind of dishonest? I mean like, I don't know. In terms of? Like I don't wanna make this a whole thing,

but just like when I talk to someone, I wanna actually like be talking to them. I don't want them to be like writing a song and in my head. And that's just for like. No, but I was still present halfway. I was, yeah I was here. Just knowing that now, I'm just for like. No, but I was still present halfway. I was, yeah, I was here. Just knowing that now,

I'm just feeling like I wasn't really, I guess I'll listen to the song. I guess I feel like I was stolen from on a certain level. I hope the song is really good. That's all I understand. And I'm finished writing now, I'm sorry. What are you guys saying? I really thought that that actually hurts me even more

because I really thought that we had. That tricked me because now I know. You sat up and sat forward and I didn't know that you were just sitting forward because. That's really scary. You had thought of something for the song. That's really scary. That's really scary. Ooh, I've got it. Is that, okay.

Was that like, I feel like that might have been about the song. Was that about the conversation we were just having? Or was that about the song? I feel like he's working on something else for another show. I'm sorry. I just wrote a screenplay. Oh God. Was that about with a conversation we were just having or was that about the song? I feel like he's working on something else for another show. I'm sorry. I just wrote a screenplay. Oh God. That's so impressive, but it's really scary.

Cause I felt like I was talking to you for a lot of this. Yes. Yes. Yes. Are you saying, who are you saying yes to right now? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm, I'm was practicing my wedding vows. I was writing my vows. You're, you're forgoing I do. It's just going to be a straight up yes. Yeah. I'm about to say I do stuff.

I need two words for this. Yeah. I'm sorry. I gotta go back to, uh, access the song. Okay. Okay. So why don't we try this? So we'll, so we'll do like one of those cool, uh,

you know, like jazzy, like I'll go where, and you go where, where. Ready? Where. Where. Where. Where. Where. Where.

Where. Where. Sorry, fuck. At the same time, hasten it at the same time. Should I do it at the same time? Try it. Ready? Where.

Now all three of us. Where? The search for Wayne. Welcome everybody to a pretty special episode. Be our guest Brady, one of the best episodes we've ever done. Be our guest Brady, searching for Wayne, the search for Wayne.

Years in the making. I'd say I'm a little excited about this one. We have a pretty good guest. We like to introduce the show first before he does talk. We have a pretty good guest. Yeah, just hang on. We have a pretty good guest for this one. I guess you could say.

It's been a long journey. Ooh. With a lot of ups and downs. I'm worried about next week. I think. I hate to live there already. Sean and I have gotten a lot closer in this process. We have lost friends.

Oh yeah. But we have made friends as well. And I'm excited to say that we've. Sharif the barber. Made a friend tonight. And I'll take over. And Hayes is getting emotional, which it's justified, you know,

you work so long for something and you start to really think like, this is not gonna happen. Like this is not, you know, this was not worth it. My life is not what I thought it was gonna be. You know, I get, and Wayne is here. This is you sitting there. You guys.

And he, uh. I'm touched. I'm here. This has been years in the making guys. I'm, I can't tell you. I've had lots of career highs. This isn't necessarily that, but it is a moment. Yeah, yeah. And I'm really happy that I'm sharing is a moment. Yeah. Yeah.

And I'm really happy that I'm sharing that moment with you guys, no matter what anyone else said, no matter what my people said, no matter what Sharif, God bless him, RIP, no matter what Sharif said. He, I can't believe he went back to Vietnam. I got you. He did. And it's, it's the damndest thing.

The Vietnam war has been over since what, 73? It certainly felt that way, yeah. But he said that he thinks there's still guys back there, but they're holding. And he just went back, he went back a couple weeks ago and the last conversation we had, he said, hey, Sharif, he goes, what you doing here, man? You bald.

And I said, yeah, I just like to come back sometimes. He goes, you need to go and see them white boys. You need to go and sit down with them, man. I know I told you it wasn't a big fan, but they really love you. And he said, I can't do his voice, but he said, if I go back there, like they didn't kill me, like they captured me.

No matter what, I am still alive back there, but I think he is actually dead. Yeah. Well, I did get a voicemail from him a couple days ago. Okay. But I didn't know if it was him or a prank. Yeah. He was like,

oh my God, please, please. And then it was cut off. I got a text from him that just said, you know, and I can't do his voice, but he said, I'm about 89 clicks outside of today right now, which like, I don't really. I don't really understand how far he's. At that point, like, he's using different.

He's out of country at that point. Like, central, yes, that's what I felt too, you know? That's so many clicks. RIP. Yeah, but that was just, that was who he was. And that's why I'm here. And I also don't wanna claim that like, that the war is still going on and they, like,

shot him or something. Like, his plan was to fly a helicopter into Da Nang, which he had never done before. Wait, he's never flown a helicopter. He's many things. He cuts hair. He's a prolific children's artist. Okay, he's not that prolific.

I just want to say, like, he basically cuts hair. Three books now. Okay. Three pictures. Like, he would show me prolific. I just want to say, he basically cuts hair. Three books now. Okay, three pictures. Like, show me a picture and be like, here's a book. Jimmy's first haircut. Jimmy's first haircut. It was a series, yeah, it was a series.

Well, he's why I'm here, so thank you. And the kids were always pretty old to have their first haircut. Am I wrong? Like, they look like teenagers. I didn't know if that's just the way he drew kids. Yeah. I think that he just drew, he drew everyone old.

Yeah. And if you were already old, you were just older. Yeah. Yeah. God bless him, man. But, but, but it's because of him that I'm here with you on this couch today. And it makes me very happy. And it has been so incredible having you here, Wayne, and it was all worth it.

And if the fans could, just everyone comment, everyone is on board. Yeah, everyone's like. This is the best episode of Be Our Guest Brady, Searching for Wayne, The Search for Wayne ever. Yeah, please. Can't believe they got him. Tweeting it, different journalists and stuff.

Blow us up, folks. Like you are not gonna believe who be our guest Brady Searching for Wayne got this week. Mm-hmm. Vulture, if we could get Vulture together. So my question is, and I mean, I don't know if you guys have thought about this, is I'm here. So what happens next week?

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