Hollywood Handbook - Wolves of Glendale, Our Close Friends
Episode Date: August 11, 2026The Boys bring in ETHAN EDENBURG, ERIC JACKOWITZ, and TOM MCGOVERN of the band Wolves of Glendale to help them write a hit song. Check out Wolves of Glendale's new album, Go to the Woods!, out August ...28th! Get a Hat Pack Hat here! Check out Sean and Hayes’s bonus shows at Patreon.com/HollywoodHandbook Listen and watch on the iHeartRadio App!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Is this before we would get into this? Yeah. Yeah. No rock and roll shit.
I mean, that is grabbing your stuff for like.
Just like, I don't know if we'll be able to help.
Rati kicking the microphone and all that.
This is all like, this is our equipment.
This is nice equipment.
We actually take care of it because for us,
it's like a professional job.
It doesn't have to be some like
immature, infantile, you know, adolescent,
we know the, performative, you know,
acting out against whatever,
you know, unseen authority, you want me to imagine that you're, you know,
now we're really going to do it.
Thumbing your nose at.
Don't do it.
Here we don't do that.
Here what we'd like to do actually is be productive and creative, meaning creating something,
not destroying something and be helpful to one another.
We obviously are getting content from this.
We're getting a show.
You guys are being compensated.
it in a way because we are going to
sort of... I didn't hear about it. We're getting paid
for this or no? He's about to say. We, yes
and I am
speaking and I will continue as soon
as you're done with your question.
Okay, I think that's it. Yeah, are we getting paid?
And this is exactly...
And that's feeling a little... And so I can hear
that I can actually hear that the numbers
crunching in your head of
three of us and two of them.
Check your fucking math.
I got three guys right
over there. Aren't?
to the teeth with machine guns.
They're all on the computer.
This is my fucking family, dude.
Yeah, they're on the computer.
I think very quickly they could become our family
because if you know anything about us,
we're basically from the street.
We come from nothing and I can tell
these guys are exactly.
No, no, no, no, you got these guys right.
He's wearing a gold chain.
These guys are rich as hell.
That's not real gold.
I can tell that's not real gold.
I'm not trying to call you out.
Family money.
Flat.
Generational money.
Yeah, right?
The watch is cool.
And you have a PlayStation shirt,
which does scream
money to me. And it screams there are people.
Casey financed his own film recently.
Really? Yeah. And this is a movie guy.
He's a director. He hates music.
Yeah. He's not a music guy.
He is a film. He's a visual artist.
By the way, his movie is going to freak
you guys out. It's very rock and roll. It's called The Devil Sucked My Dick, but I
sucked it even harder. And it's actually one of the most
badass, scary, funny movies.
That sounds sick. It's cool as hell. That does sound really good.
If you do need songs for it or a custom song for it, we would happily write.
I do actually.
I am looking for some music.
Oh, great, dude.
We're all the baby.
It's still on our side.
I don't think so.
We just got a job.
Yeah.
The devil sucked his dick and I'll write a song for it as well.
Do you know that thing where somebody like slices with a sword and they say you miss but then they fall in half.
Right.
Vertically.
Casey can do that with his machine gun.
Damn.
Holy shit.
Because the blade.
So like the machine gun line is so clean.
The precision of his stable hands.
Bullets.
Surgeon hands.
Yeah.
Must be a high rate of fire to cut like a blade.
Yeah, he gets it.
Right.
Yeah.
No, I also got two.
It's like a laser.
It's more like a laser gun than a gun, right?
One of those hot knives.
Those are hot knives.
Sure.
You could cut bread with.
Yeah.
Do you heat your knife before you cut bread?
Always.
Yeah.
Leave it in the oven.
I usually just take like a room temp knife and cut my bread, but it's a sharp knife.
And then, what do you do with the bread?
You don't eat it.
No, I just cut it and I leave it on the counter, but I'm not using a hot knife.
I'll use a sharp knife.
Oh, you're supposed to eat it.
But the bread's just decorative then in your home.
Decorative loaf.
The term decorative loaf.
Have you not heard that?
I did wonder where that came from.
See?
Decorative loaf.
And I am finally connecting those dots.
Room temp, sharp knife.
No need to heat the knife.
But then the loaf is supposed to be decorative,
not the slice.
You're making a slice.
Right.
But you slice a loaf, right?
Even in that case, isn't it more,
isn't it more aesthetically appealing if it has been
sliced with a hot knife because the lines are cleaner?
That's right.
You'd still want to hit the whole.
Obviously, there's kind of like a wholeness or.
a clean.
There's some team,
blue team going on,
but we can all agree
a loaf is decorative
sliced or not.
Well,
it depends on the loaf.
I mean,
it could look like shit.
Which,
and how you dexterous?
I'm starting to fear
that yours does.
Does your loaf look like?
I'm starting to fear
that your loaf is actually not.
You have to believe
that it looks pretty good.
I don't know.
The bar for his loaf is low.
Mm-hmm.
What are your songs
sound like?
Mm-hmm.
Thanks.
That's a great question.
And thank you.
Thank you for that.
Do with like
can you, I know you don't have the instruments or whatever, but can you like kind of do one?
Oh, did you bring the instruments?
I know.
We didn't.
Okay.
I did bring.
All right.
Mine are in the other room.
But I'm not willing to get them more than one.
I did.
Yeah, we came from playing some music and I didn't want them to get too heated in the car.
A lot like that knife.
But, but yeah, not willing to grab his knife.
Yeah, or mine.
Yeah, not my hot knife.
I stick all my knives in the oven.
What the fuck?
How are we not talked about this before right now?
I don't, I don't care what you do.
I don't know what you do outside of the band.
You go to Burning Man.
I don't go to Burning's in trouble.
Red team is fine, by the way.
Red team is fine.
Republicans.
Blue team and we are not.
We don't want to make that clear.
We're not.
We're not.
What about my vibe gives off MAGA?
Red team over here?
Just team over here, thanks.
Not a partisan show.
We'll go Blue Team.
And I think Casey's with us.
team. I mean, Casey
is directing a devil and then. Yeah, the devil's
suck my dick and sewed the devil.
And I sucked the devil's dick.
And it's jizzed on my back.
Yeah. Blue is back out.
Happy to have you, but happy to have.
Yeah.
All right.
But no, we all voted blue.
I'd say our songs are just kind of like kick-ass
rocking awesome, your favorite shit.
Fun songs.
But do like making the sounds of the instruments and stuff.
Yeah, a little bit I'd like to hear.
I play drums.
And I'll do like a synth-based thing, like a
Rund
And I'm on guitar, so I guess I'm going to be kind of like,
The devil's suck my dick, and then I suck the devil's dick and then I suck the devil's
digging down.
So you wait, I'm sorry, are you pitching right now?
Is that what I'm hearing?
No, no, no, no.
Okay.
It really sounded like, I don't know if you knew you were doing this, that was almost exactly
what his movie is about.
I don't think he knew.
What's the name of the movie?
I was playing a synth bass, but it's my, yeah.
I want to make absolutely sure about that.
Casey, did that point, that was sound for the space that you're looking for?
It wasn't necessarily what the rest of the movie feels like, but it is very interesting,
and I am open to a theme song.
I was doing a synth-based sound.
Well, the rhythm of that synth-based, I don't know how you knew this,
is exactly the pace that his main character walks around.
What are the odds of that?
It's pretty unlikely, yeah.
Sort of a high-paced sort of like, some-cut-jems type of film.
is that one footstep per dun dun dun dun yes and every single one is one footstep and he actually does it exactly like that watching his fingers around what he wants to see from his from his performers
the entire walk of the movie yeah and it's also the pace of the fallacio that happens in the film also yeah yeah is this casey in the film with whoever's playing the devil or how does it work no no no I'm not an actor I'm only a director okay so only yeah come yeah most important job on this you're actually
kind of doing all the jobs. I mean, really. I'm glad. I'm glad someone sees it that way. Thanks,
Sean. He's awesome. He's so cool, man. I like your vibe, man. He's like a true artist. Yeah.
And he's actually humble about it, but it's like he is doing all the jobs. Like, he could act,
but he just has to hold the camera and he also has to hold the boom mic. Is this your debut?
My debut feature film, yeah. Wow. Okay. Congratulations. Gase. Yeah, all right, man. But it doesn't
actually tell you the reason. He's so awesome. He's talking about.
He actually did make a short film that was incredibly long.
No.
It was really long.
It was like really long.
It felt so long.
It was like, I mean, when I saw that thing, I was like, are you sure this is a short film?
Man?
Because it felt like it took forever to fit.
Yeah, sort of like when you're at like a fast food restaurant, it like takes too long.
And you go more like not so fast food.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, sit.
Something like that.
Yeah.
By the way, just to do, this is like a comedy thing.
If you want to make it even more specific, you could.
pick a chain and actually Taco Bell's in trouble right now.
Oh, about the time.
Because the lettuce and the diaries.
The lettuce and they knew about the lettuce.
So, like, if we're going to be kind of insulting the whole genre of fast food,
we could really dig in and do something about Taco Bell.
That could even be a song that goes in the movie, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Taco Bell's dirty lettuce.
Okay, so Taco Bell is featured in the film.
In the background, yeah.
You see it?
Yeah, yeah.
So then there you go.
We could do that.
Okay, that sounds great.
Do you have something that you would score for, like, someone walking by,
a Taco Bell
Yeah
Yeah I can see that
Pretty fast
Yeah
This is like a big scene
It's like important
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Don't know
I'm gonna buy a taco bell
Gotta
Where do a shit
And the devil
suck my dick
And I suck the devil's dick
And I hope the devil's dick
And I hope he
So I hope he really sucks it hard
So I just want
What's sort of
What happened
With the Taco Bell stuff
Because it seems like
you
didn't quite understand the news story.
Yeah, like you felt like you were a guy.
They got in trouble for people
going into the Taco Bell.
What is the controversy?
I thought...
So you said because of the diary,
which made me think that you like had gotten it.
Yeah, I thought that was related to what the news was going on.
That's what happened to me.
Since we are
committing libel
on the show of a major corporation
since we've decided to do that.
Yeah. Since we are risking getting sued into the Stone Age,
Let's at least have the details right.
Sure.
Okay.
So does it not have to do with getting diarrhea?
Somebody that needs to shit.
It doesn't happen from walking by the Taco Bell.
So what we were that was you were walking by.
So it just said, I've got a situation where to take a shit.
Sorry.
I didn't have proper backstory to the character as well.
He said it was the lettuce.
They knew about the lettuce.
We should.
That was actually the lettuce that was sold at Taco Bell, not that people ate somewhere else
and then went to like have diarrhea at the Taco Bell.
Which is what that's confusing.
Which is what you are.
I don't know if lettuce was going to come up.
for you. Do not touch me again. So sorry. Your hand was very close to me. I know. It was
there. It was there. It was there. I hear you. I'm going to keep it in the box. I'm going to
keep it totally here. But I was thinking, and Casey, maybe you have the specifics on this,
that the character maybe ate at Taco Bell and then was walking in front and had to, you know,
dump. And this is your short film? This is the real feature. There's the feature that we're working.
Did we ever say how long the short was? I just want to go back for a second to, didn't think so.
to the Scooby moment.
Thank you.
Thank you for hearing.
We try not to blow by stuff on the show.
Good, bad, or indifferent.
We do want to give everything it's due.
That was fucking unbelievable.
I was transported.
I mean, it was just nostalgia, like pure and simple.
I was raised by TV.
You know, that's an interesting thing about me,
where like all these cartoons
that have just been sort of lost to the sands of time,
like they live up here.
And every now and then something like this will happen
where I'm fully transported
into like my childhood.
Yes.
Sitting on the rug.
Christmas morning.
Just yeah, a bowl of, uh,
yeah, cheerio pops or yes, I don't know what the,
Cheecho pops.
What are those?
Yeah, Gio pops.
Yes.
We got to be careful some of the.
Cheecho.
Right, right, right.
Big twisty spoon or something.
Yeah.
And is that part of it too?
Is that part of like what the songs
or like what you guys?
Yeah, we like to evoke a lot
a nostalgia in our songs.
I was raised the same way, you know, growing up
cross-legged.
I was raised by TV.
I was raised by TV watching wacky races and like all sorts of things.
Chris Cross-Applesaw.
Brin and Shaggy and scobey.
It was hard.
That was our generation,
but like having to be like carried onto the bus like that.
Yeah.
It's tough to find a seat that feels good when you're cross-laked all the time.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
A tough life.
Shirt covered in Cheecho pops.
Chichos.
Yeah.
Fucking hard man.
Big twisty spoons straw.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then someone would break out Twister
and you're like, what?
You'll get my legs.
Fine for you guys.
That's not a game.
I'll be over here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll be sitting.
Yeah.
You guys,
I'll just spin it.
Yeah.
I'll be the designated spin.
I'll be the red.
I'll be the red.
I'll be the rife.
Yeah.
No, yes.
Yeah.
I'm the equipment manager.
Right.
Yeah.
Every game.
I love the game, you know.
The line producer of Twister.
Yeah.
Well, that's that, yeah, that's a really crucial role.
I mean, he does that job.
That could be good for you.
because you're like, I just sit on the color of red.
Exactly.
And that's what I do.
Oh,
my whole vibe.
That's a lot of hats.
The red team vibe for me.
And just to clarify, like, I did vote Democrat.
It's not like a red, blue Democrat Republican thing.
Yeah, a lot of back people at once were Democrats.
In terms of like, welcome back to POT, Save America or whatever the fuck.
Like, like literally a completely different show.
Just feel like we blew past it.
I didn't want any of the same network.
This is on the big money players.
I'm not trying to think of political.
I'm just trying to talk about it.
Did we like have that conversation?
with them, yes, we had it.
Oh, yeah, we kicked the tires on crooked.
We had to. That's our due diligence.
Wasn't a fit.
Yeah.
Because we don't do that shit.
Sure, sure.
They were going to make us take some stances that we weren't comfortable with.
Yeah.
Wow.
Good on you.
Good for you guys, man.
Ultimately, the shows for everybody, the shows to be enjoyed.
It's escapism.
It's entertainment.
It's like what you guys, I assume, do.
But it's just instead of music, it's a podcast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's cool.
It would be cool to hear our songs.
podcast. It is kind of like that. We're like a band, but if the band was a podcast. Yeah.
Yeah. Sounds really good. Yeah.
That's awesome because so many of these bands are just doing a song. You know what I'm?
I know. I know. What if a song was only like hot takes? Boring. You know what we ought to do.
Yeah. What? See the Odyssey. We got to write a hit song. Whoa. I mean, think about it.
For Casey's movie, it's so big. Yeah. Because if we've got a placement already.
And then it's rising tide lifts all both.
Sure.
Sure.
We've got to write a hit, man.
I mean, there's eight of us in here.
I feel like if everybody has their...
If everyone brings their A-game, you know what I mean?
Their best lyric.
There's a delicious stew a simmer, is there not?
Yeah, I mean, you can smell it.
You can smell it.
Ingredients.
I think, I just, like, think it's important to clarify, like,
which instrument you guys each play.
Yeah.
podcastically, I'm noticing
something really fascinating, which is
you are the bass player
of the podcast.
He's a guitar player in the band.
But he is establishing this kind of
bass player.
He's keeping this rhythm.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm not always like listening, you know,
like I'll notice it every once in a while.
You know what I mean?
You want to feel it.
You can zoom in on it sometimes.
You go, oh, that's a nice, steady rhythm that's going,
but you can also totally ignore it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like in jazz bass, they call it felt not heard.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I also feel like on most speakers nowadays,
you can't really make it out.
On an iPhone?
Anyways, it's not.
It might not have it.
Yeah.
You can't really hear it on a phone.
It goes right by.
It goes.
Below register is gone, below 300.
It's fucked, man.
It's fucked up.
I wish, yeah.
I want to put a whole different speaker system on my eye.
On your phone?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hit it out.
Shit.
You can get it tricked out.
I want to do that.
I want to do that.
And something that I can like invite people over again to see.
You know what I'm totally?
It's like,
what does it get me if I'm like check, like check this out
and it's like already here?
I need to actually get them home.
I got to get some reason for them to come to my house.
Yeah, that's the kind of thing where if I'm on the fence about going over
and then you're like, well, I got this kind of sick bassy speaker system.
Yeah, on my phone.
But it's attached to the phone, which can't leave the house, right?
The way the speaker's just what I'm picturing the phone is probably not going to come out of the house anymore.
It won't leave the house.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which would be a great way to get people into the house.
Yeah.
Even just to talk to me because I can't.
I would meet you.
No one goes over anymore.
No one goes over anymore.
You're not no parties over.
No one goes over.
You want to come home and see my etchings and they're like, sure.
Let me show them to me on your phone.
And it's like, yeah, I do have an album that says etching.
on my phone, but like, I need to get you from jury duty to the spot.
Right, you know what I mean?
Inside house.
Yeah, don't stop at the museums or anything.
Like, don't go there because, like, you're going to get distracted.
There's so much to see there.
Yeah.
And the real museum in a way, the real forgotten art is actually this sense of community you
get when people go over, which they don't do anymore.
Bingo.
When someone comes old and do it anymore.
Bullseye.
And people need to get, people need to host.
People need a guest.
Pippo need the host.
People need the host.
People need to host.
Come over for some chichot puffs and some people hosting.
And I think that.
Cheechos of my peopos.
This kind of nostalgia.
Trust.
Right.
Community.
Are you hearing that?
You would think so.
Drums.
In the podcast.
I was getting.
It is this.
It's like the same.
Chichot with the people.
Like kind of the same thing.
Loud.
Loud.
Loud.
No change in pitch.
But loud.
Right.
Right.
Yep.
But then we have
coming here with Scooby-Doo,
you know what I mean?
Lead guitar.
He's got a whammy barmy.
The red hot Ferrari of the band.
Yeah.
That's what we're learning.
Ferrari brand guitar.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ferrari guitar.
Ferrari guitar.
Ferrari guitar.
Ferrari guitar.
It's fucking awesome,
what the fuck, Eric.
I love being the guitarist of our podcast, Ben.
Guitarie.
Ferrari guitar.
Ferrari guitar.
Oh my god
The band is Wolves
Ferrari Guitary
Gattari
Dr. Drums and
basic bitch
Yep
Hell yeah
And together we are
Is that beautiful
The band is wolves of Glendale
It's uh
Introduce yourself
Kind of funny isn't it
Yeah
Sometimes I think we try to
Yeah
Get some laughs
It's pretty fun
Introduce yourselves and say if it's funny
And say what's funny
Each one of you introduce yourself
Say if the band is funny
And what's funny
It's funny and the difference
So I can
Got it. Okay.
Got it.
And sorry, is there real names or is our podcast band names?
Just to clarify.
I don't want to make any wrong most.
I'm already not.
Let's get it all.
It's promotional for you, but we also want to confuse people.
God.
Let's let's see.
All you're going to want to get it all.
I just want to say there's a lot of people talking it once.
Sure.
SEO.
Eric, go ahead.
First is for sucking an evil one.
A huge movie coming out.
Hey, The Magic.
Sucking on the devil's dick.
Coming on his back.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
truly look out for this movie. It's fucking crazy.
That is what happens. He sucks the devil's dick and then he comes on this.
Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Killer soundtrack for this film.
Eric, you wanted to go ahead. Sure. I'm Ferrari Guitary, aka Eric Jackowitz,
Wolves of Glendale. And I think our band is funny because we sort of write funny,
you know, catchy songs that skewer everyday life. And it's pretty relatable to people.
So awesome. Okay. Well, good idea. Skewer all of everyday life.
Really good.
Leave that many people to listen to the show.
You're scuring all of everyday life.
Your name is Ferrari,
Guitary.
Yeah.
I sort of felt like we just came up with that.
Right?
Like, I said you were the guitar player,
and then you said you're the Ferrari of the band,
and then didn't he say Ferrari guitar?
Yeah, but he was introducing himself
as his podcast band persona as well as his...
I know, but is that a...
pre-existing name? Yes and no.
Well, it was always his energy. We have said Eric is, he's like the Ferrari of the band.
And so loosely, we probably said Ferrari guitar once or twice in rehearsal.
But that would be crazy. Even though he was playing drums up until today.
Correct. But he loves guitar. He plays drums. He loves guitar. Yeah. I introduced the whole thing about you
playing other instruments in the podcast. It's like, yeah. I said that you were the guitar player. I can see why I said to you're the Ferrari. He said Ferrari guitar. And you're saying you've said that before.
It's like that Robin Williams thing, everyone accuses him of stealing jokes.
It's like that.
Not everyone, I've never done that.
I've never done that.
I've literally.
I've literally.
When we say everyone, I think we should be careful because I'm in the room.
I've never done that.
You know, this is like skewering everyday life.
Rich, it's been a while, but like, we have money.
Leave some room, you know what I mean?
Totally.
Okay, not ever.
I'm generalizing.
And we might still want to work with his hologram or whatever.
General like that could be sick.
Yeah, no, I would too.
Rob it on stage?
By the way, I love Robin Williams.
You want to write that down. General Ising.
So I was burping. I missed it.
Call me General Ising reporting for duty.
Can you get, if you burp next time, can you get fully under the table?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can do that.
And I will.
Thank you.
I will.
I can't wait for that.
Or just, like, go to the bathroom or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, we've been on tour and in vans and stuff for a long time.
So a lot of nicknames will come out.
So, Fryer, sorry.
There's no way to make it.
It's the first time.
Statistically, we've said it before is all we're saying.
Not trying to take something away from, you know, genius.
We don't mean the thumb dog here, but I think we've said that at least a few times.
I remember that.
Yeah, see?
Wow.
That's wild.
Yeah.
Tom, you want to do yours?
Pretty kooky, sure.
My name is Tom Goverin, but you can call me Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Drumbs in this arrangement.
Okay.
Well, that's at least, that's fine.
It was probably the weakest one.
Yeah, exactly.
Just needed a bridge to get to call him basic bit.
Exactly.
And I saw it in your eyes when you said Guitar Ferrari, you were,
you were foam at the mouth to say basic bit.
Yeah.
To be fair, it hit.
It hit.
It hit hard.
It had the table over there.
Honestly, if this one is really funny, that one maybe doesn't score.
And so, you know, right.
Yeah.
It was actually.
And I'm willing to kind of take the hits.
The Jokin Land.
Oh, it was a dunk.
It was a slam fucking Dillon.
The old Shaq Diesel dunk.
It was a Shaq Diesel smashing backboard.
It was Shaq Diesel.
Shack Dummy's.
You remember what Shaq Dance with the Jabalakis?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was great.
I don't remember that.
Oh, I'll show you right.
You guys got to watch.
That makes me feel a lot better, actually, because you sang before that you didn't know anything
about our show or heard about it.
It makes you think like, wow, does he only like.
Oh, God, this guy's so up on culture.
Yeah.
He's so in tune with the rest of it.
No, he's never seen anything good.
No, I've never ever seen the movies you were talking about before this.
Never seen any of those movies.
Right.
Lucky number 11.
Sheldon.
You've never seen the devil ticked me inside out and never put back together?
That was a prequel of Casey's film or no.
Bented him over like a table and did him harder.
No, I never saw that one.
You never saw he bent him over like a table?
No.
It did him harder.
Well, I've heard Ethan and Eric Moore Sinify us.
He never saw that?
Yeah, I know.
Dude, it's incredible.
You don't see how sloven psychopaths?
No.
It's good.
It's a fun.
There was a whole genre.
There was a whole genre.
Action movies that came out are in this like six year period.
There was an era of movies.
And that's my fault.
I introduced something from before and sort of.
Yeah,
yeah,
I implied that.
Exactly.
I don't know what to do on this show.
I felt like,
yeah,
I explained mine.
I don't think at the time I knew.
So just to,
yeah,
and so that people understand prior to the podcast being recorded,
this would be helpful context for them.
They can go back now and enjoy the previous three minutes after I do this.
So prior to the podcast being recorded, we were having a conversation where we were talking about the DVD of Lucky Number Sleven, which I think Eric said he enjoyed.
Good movie.
Yeah, I enjoyed it.
And then he said there was an era of movies that was like Lucky Number Sleven and Seven Psychopaths, which I was saying, well, those movies are far enough apart.
I don't think it really qualifies as an era so much as they both have a word that sounds like.
they were closer together than I remembered,
but then he also brought up bad times
at the El Royale, which I think was like
another six years later.
Way out. Yeah, more later.
Way out, sure, but.
So then.
So it's less of an era, more of a sub-changa.
But at the time, I don't think I knew your name was Eric.
At the time it was in before we started recording this?
Yeah.
And now having that context, I'm going,
well, maybe he's just saying ERA to kind of get his
kind of sounds in there.
That's an interesting take on that.
That's very accurate.
He is always trying to just get anybody to say.
That's about as close as it gets to Eric.
Yeah.
And it's about as close as I can get to making any sense of why you would say it was an era.
Well, it's just, you know, it's because it sounds like his name.
Well, I mean, have you been to the Taylor Swift Eric's store?
See, that time you didn't even.
But that, you didn't even get it right.
You said Eric.
You said your name.
What?
It's not even subliminal to if you say the name.
I said the Taylor Swift's Eric store.
You said the Taylor Swift's store.
That was a little.
tour.
Yeah, that was a little more swallowed at least.
That one could have tricked me if it came first.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe let's say something else and then try to slip that in and we'll see.
You know.
Okay.
So like, oh, you know, my dad's birthday other day.
I'm not sure what to get him.
I have any ideas.
And then I say what?
And then like something about the ERA store, or the Eric's tour.
Oh, okay.
It was my dad's birthday the other day and I got.
Congratulations, man.
Thank you.
That's awesome.
Yeah, I was that Target looking for a shirt.
And I saw a Taylor.
Swift. There was a
Merrick Store shirt. So
pick that up.
For your dad or my dad? And that
was, yeah. Yeah. So I got him a Taylor Swift.
I thought it worked. That was pretty. That was pretty good.
Eric Jr. Yeah. Why is his name junior? Yeah.
If he's your dad.
It's a great question. Well, it's more of a nickname. Yeah. It's more of a nickname.
Why is that his nickname? Because he always
He always looked really old. He looked old. So they called him Eric
Jr. It's like ironic. It's like ironic. It's like a
funny thing? That's funny.
That's funny.
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Hollywood Handbook.
You know, speaking at Taylor Swift,
yeah, hit it.
Here we got to write a hit song.
Oh, you do.
Dude.
Am I right?
Yeah, yeah.
We are.
We got to get something.
We've got to get something.
We've been putting it off.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
Because we're skewering everyday life, right?
Well, we don't have to.
I mean, that's just going on our thing.
Sure.
We don't have all.
That's what you've been doing.
So let's do something different.
Immediately sells out their entire concept.
Well, we don't have to do that.
Well, it's just kind of, you know,
it's clearly not really working.
They've built for years.
years well fuck that it's not really working for us I feel like if we start something new
maybe maybe it could give us a bump yeah and we do need a bump oh my goodness do we need a bump
we got the Hollywood hand bump oh they did they did they did you see that physical
physical button physical tag take one sure yeah how well hey oh ordered a double yeah do we do
something guess I I have actually had the touching experience with them already and I think I've made
myself pretty clear about where I'm
I think the question of like, do they touch me?
Happy to explain it again.
I mean, I'm a no.
No, that's all good, man.
We don't even need to talk about that anymore.
And I even made it clear it's kind of an accident, right?
Because you were near him and then he happened to like, reaches.
You know, this one I think would have been, yeah, that was an intentional piece offering.
Hey, did he either introduce himself?
No.
This is, uh, the base, right?
Yeah, this is Ethan Edinburgh talking here.
Uh, you might know me.
as basic bitch from Wolves of Glendale and Wolves of Glendale podcast band.
And I think that, you know, I would say we're funny.
You know, I'm not going to say all the time and I'm not going to say it a good way.
Did these guys say if they were funny?
I think we have to say why we're going to.
If it's funny and like how it's funny and I couldn't really get anything.
I wouldn't say I know how it's funny or why.
But I think we try for sure.
Yeah.
You know, and sometimes something hits random that someone says or someone falls over
and it's pretty fucking funny.
Yeah, I'm Clemdog. I'm the lead singer of the group. I'm on vocals
My shit's really funny. The lyrics are like funny, but in a way that's also sort of like moving, touching and the way that I sing it too is like very emotional and like actually like kind of hits
Like into the sort of center of your being and so I'm the lead singer of the group. I'm sort of like the star and
I'm the Hayesman. I'm the other lead singer of the group. Yeah, we sing
together. We sing all the songs
together. Co-lead singers?
Yeah. We're each the lead
singer. You're both leading. You're not sharing
anything. You guys sing at the same time or like you sing
equal amounts. We sing in the same time. We sing
different songs at the same time.
Yeah. We sing in the exact same register.
Yeah. We double the vocal. But you're not singing the same
lyrics. You're seeing different lyrics, different melodies
at the same time. Yeah, we don't like to be
penned in to just like, oh, I can only do his lyrics or whatever. I'm
forcing him to do my, you got to do my lyrics.
You know what I mean? Like, it's a democracy.
in that way and
we each kind of go our own way.
We've landed on the same lyric before.
We'll accidentally say the same
word all the time. It's got to be exciting.
One, two, three,
freak. That's awesome
as shit. See, that wasn't
at the time. Yeah.
That was close. You both had like an F thing.
You could tell they were going to get it. Yeah.
You said like, you almost said it wasn't quite
at the same time was the one. Right.
There was a lag. No.
Which I thought you were.
Different words that it wasn't.
quite at the same time. It doesn't happen every time, but it happens pretty often.
And we're not warmed up. And we'll do it again. Of course,
two, three, Frown. Oh, guys, closer.
Fucking close that time. I mean, it was almost exact bull's eyes.
That was close. Yeah. I thought for a second it was that was crazy.
My headphones, it's definitely not going to be frog. You don't have a long.
I'm sensing a real Lenin and McCartney. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
We do inspire each other and yeah. Beautiful.
And except better because they weren't even like singers. They act like, you know,
No, it's not going to end.
One of us is not going to like arrange the other's murder.
You know, so like it's not going to like, come on.
Is that a real?
Is that a real conspiracy theory?
No, it's a fact.
Yeah, here we go.
That we're not going to do that.
Straight up did.
You got to forgive Tommy hasn't consumed most media or culture.
I didn't have, you're saying, can I.
He hasn't even seen Lucky Number 11.
I'm saying you guys grew up on TV.
I didn't, we barely had a TV.
You're raised by, sorry, raised by T's.
Sort of culture vultures.
Sure.
Yeah, I had the cross-legged thing going on for sure, but as far as TV went, like, we didn't have cable.
I couldn't have video game consoles.
Just so you're up to date.
It seems like Paul was a bit of an egotistical maniac psycho, and he got real jealous of John and his, I mean, genius, I would say,
and talked to this guy who then walked up on him and shot him.
Who wrote Blackbird?
Paul.
That was Paul.
That was Paul?
Yeah.
Was he, was John let it be or was that Paul?
That one was Paul.
That was also a leave as well.
But, you know, he was still jealous of other stuff that John did.
So, but you're putting it together.
Like, yeah, Blackbird singing in the dead of night.
You sing, you're dead.
Oh, my fucking God.
Ringo didn't sing much.
No.
Ringo didn't seem.
By the way.
What was the other song you wanted to know if he wrote, Let It Be?
which is like, don't look into this any deeper.
Let it be.
Oh, just believe the story of the newspaper reported, right?
Let it be.
It's sort of like I don't ask no questions.
Yeah, let it be.
Here's some words of wisdom for you, right?
Let it be.
Don't look into that.
Leave it alone.
Mm-hmm.
Mother Mary comes to me.
Comes to me.
Let it be.
When you.
When you.
And you know what Mother Mary is, right?
Mary is.
Oh, yeah.
I love you all about that.
We know all about that.
Yeah, we smoke weed.
Don't do that here.
All right.
But we do.
Yeah, we do.
Dude.
We love it.
It's not a lot here at the studio.
I just want to say,
I think the mics did maybe pick up
that burp a little bit.
I went under the table, did I not?
You didn't quite get all.
I could have gone on.
I could have gone.
You'd get all the way.
But actually, I think you should just
go to the bathroom at your house.
Next time you need to do that.
You need to go to your home.
I live in Culver City,
which is roughly 45 minutes away.
It would take me an hour.
I don't have to get back.
Did I misspeak?
No.
Try not to dox us as well.
Yeah.
Sure.
Now they know.
Now the audience knows.
You could argue that four hours in any direction.
Please don't establish a parameter.
That's literally the only thing the fans need is a fucking perimeter.
A lot of our worst fans live in Culver City and if they start just driving 45 minutes in every direction eventually they will land here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sorry about that.
It's fine.
Anti-Hawleywood Handbook meeting in Culver City.
meeting in Culver City, right?
Like Arcana Books and the Helms
Bakery. I've heard about this.
I know. And so, why would you know that?
Why would you know that? I've been invited.
I'm a little concerned because these guys
are usually paying a lot of attention and laughing a lot.
That's a normal thing.
They are big, and they're usually in another room.
And I can usually hear them actually like beating their chest.
From the other room, you can hear them.
Damn.
With glee.
They're laughing hard.
Yes.
And now that I'm seeing them physically in here and I'm feeling the energy this episode coming off of them, I'm going, we are doing some kind of disservice.
And I know that it's not me.
And I know that it's not Hayes.
Because he does the show every week.
I bet.
Yes.
I've been here.
And he does it like every third week or so.
I'm here.
They've been really loving those.
I'm here once or twice a month and it usually goes pretty well.
Yeah.
Is it maybe a technical thing?
like the mics or the...
Are our mics on?
Maybe they're on.
They're typing a lot, so maybe...
Oh, okay, I thought maybe it was like
how to turn a mic on.
Yeah, trying to problem solve in real time.
Or maybe they're sort of texting each other
on the computer saying, oh my God, this is so funny.
Wow.
That had to be off mic at that point.
I mean, I was like...
So I just want to help figure this out
because...
And I know what you're going to say.
Three burps in like seven.
I know what you're going to say.
It was louder and it was the...
same.
He does have two carbon.
I do have two.
I do have two hundred beverage.
And even I could tell their own.
One of them is a tiny one.
One of them is empty.
One of them's time.
It's empty because I drink it.
It's empty because I drank it.
Detective Alert.
But how could you tell it was empty if it was sitting still on the desk?
Don't call me Detective Alert.
I saw you move it.
I saw the way you moved it.
Very astute.
Wow.
Various is all the kind of shit.
Sherlock.
This is like on another level.
Well, no.
It's just as a, as a, as a, as a comedic commentator.
you know, on society, someone who skewers everyday life
to borrow a phrase.
You do have to observe.
You know, you have to absorb these things.
Well, lesson learned.
What's different about this can from that one?
Yeah.
Some color.
One's a different color, right?
Okay.
Right.
What are we hoping to get out of this?
We both have an L&A.
That's a great question.
Is there something that you want, like, from being?
here? Is there something
happening?
I didn't come in with any desire to
leave with anything beyond. There's something happening for
you guys? Is there an album or a tour?
We just wanted to come and hang
out and just say what's up
and we do have a couple of things going on.
Really? I kind of want to get in here and go was up.
Was up with it? But also like, you know, we are dropping an
album August 28th.
Sick with it. Sick with it.
It is. The album is sick with it for sure.
But like that's not why we came here.
You're going to hang out.
Can we phrase this differently?
I hear people say this.
I know you're just copying everyone else
when you say you're dropping an album.
We drop things we don't care about.
We drop things because we're clungy and careless.
When we're done with them or when we don't care if they break or not.
Yes.
I see what you mean.
So yeah.
And that's fair.
Yeah.
You have a better word for that?
Should we say release an album?
Is that?
No,
again,
we release things.
You release a dog.
Yeah, it's saying I want to forget.
You're moving on from something that you release.
We're presenting?
Presenting's pretty good.
We're getting a lot closer.
You could present something pretty bad, though.
You could present bad news to somebody.
It's rare that, yeah, I would say.
I'm going to present you with cancer.
How about I'm going to, I'm going to gift you.
Wait, who was that?
What?
I know it wasn't Scooby-Doo.
Clearly someone, though.
So if we could stick to a more Scooby-Doo makes me feel safe.
If we could stick to a more Scooby-Cooby.
loaded area.
Okay, sure.
Can you do a safer ground?
I present you with cancer that's the way Scooby would do it.
I present you with cancer.
See?
No, that's not.
None of those started with R.
That's ruining Scooby-Doo and this moment.
I kind of thought that was a good thing.
I wish that they made Dr. Scooby-Doo.
That was sort of a missed opportunity back in the day.
Oh, like Dr. Mario.
Dr. Mario.
Dr. Mario.
Yeah, Dr. Donkey Kong.
Right.
Yeah.
His, what Scooby would do was actually really progressive, which was, he was, he was, he, he,
His philosophy was every word is the R word.
Right.
So instead of having this one word that's stigmatized, that's the R word.
Right.
Everything.
He's like, oh, the R word, you mean every word in the alphabet?
They're all equally inoffensive to me.
He's not doing anything wrong.
Including that one.
Right.
He's invincible.
He would use that word, but he would use every word.
And they would all be in with R.
Yeah.
Did he use that one?
Yeah.
There's a couple episodes.
There are.
Yeah.
He's going to, I mean, you're.
I know. I was raised by TV.
I've seen him say it.
Unvailing?
Unvailing is pretty good.
Unvailing.
Unmasking.
Dramatic.
Dramatic.
It kind of implies like unveiling is like, oh, I'm seeing my bride.
That's my favorite so far.
You know?
The person you're allowed to see my bride.
Someone you love.
So maybe we'll get a clean.
We're unveiling a new album.
You want to go for that?
Maybe.
Yeah.
Unvailing a tour.
Well, you're not 100% on unveiling?
Maybe.
Doesn't love it.
I don't know.
I just didn't ever get to pitch one, so like, I just don't know if I want to be done with the whole process.
Let's do it, man. Let's hear your pitch, man.
Yeah, no.
You know, I'd like to say.
Anything come to mind?
The show.
Um.
Lead singer.
On Cage.
Is that a word?
Yeah.
Okay.
Ruinning an album?
That's not better, is it?
No.
No, that is sort of the opposite.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think that should be it.
It's worse than dropping.
Maybe unveiling is actually the better landing place for it.
Mm.
Yeah.
But ruining, spotlighting.
Uncaging is a little bit of shots fired at Cades the Elephant,
which like I don't think we want to be fucking with those.
We don't.
They're touring a lot successfully.
All respect to kids.
Yeah, respect.
Where we're told a cage heads.
Is that one of their songs?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
What song is that?
Bono Wian on the band.
That was it.
And I go walking in the parking.
I don't see my non-file.
So this is better than what you guys were saying was your.
Yes.
Well, Casey Lep.
It's incredible.
They're incredible.
They're really.
They do.
They rock the fucking house.
We can sing any case the elephant song
would sound better than our.
You know, when I was going to see Oasis, you know, they,
somebody was at a dinner next to me and I said, oh, I'm going to see Oasis tonight.
And they said, I saw Cage the Elephant last night by themselves.
And my advice is go in there, watch Cage the Elephant, and just go home.
Because they're going to blow Oasis off the stage.
And I said, well, probably not, right?
I'm there.
I'm happy to hear that they're going to put out a good show,
but I also would still stay.
Like, no matter how good they were,
I would at least stay for some of the next band.
Yeah, especially if it's Oasis.
Yeah.
They don't tour that often.
It's kind of interesting at least.
Yeah, it was like why I wanted to go.
I was there, honestly.
I saw Cage the Elephant, and I found myself getting up going,
big stretch.
Well, that's it for me.
Wow. In the middle of the set.
In the middle. No.
When they were done.
When they were done.
When they were done.
There's actually a lot of time between their show and mine.
So when they were done, I just found myself getting up and taking my ass home.
And big strad.
Yeah.
Because you couldn't imagine the show getting any better because you were like, well.
That's like that's as good as it's going to get.
That's the tops.
I mean, they're the cage.
But even if the next band was slightly worse, it would still be, it would be like,
I just saw a great show.
And the other band was good too.
I feel like that would be worth staying
was kind of my position
to this like
I don't know
60 year old woman in Pasadena
and I and I just
you know
I wasn't going to win the argument
so I did promise to do that
and I have broken a promise to her
and I do believe that a curse
was placed on me from that day
you are going to pay for that
mm-hmm
it's gonna sting for a long time
maybe having to do this episode
I don't know
you think that's what the curse was
what will happen I don't know
this is the karma
so far
I mean it's
feeling like, you know.
I don't know.
Is this hearing, just from like Casey's reaction so far to this one?
Like, I have to feel like,
Casey's been pretty quiet, dude.
I know.
And you say that,
and he may be writing a movie in his head.
Like,
sure,
when he goes quiet,
sometimes he's coming up with some of his best stuff.
The devil suck my dick.
And that's always a question.
He's laughing.
Is it because the devil dropped his drawers?
Yeah,
it's a funny scene with the devil.
Yeah.
So it's sort of like a honey I shrunk the kids sort of thing.
Honey,
I blew up the baby.
It's like the,
I'd suck the devil's life.
Honey,
I suck the devil's,
We're dropping our albums.
The devil fuck my face and he finished on my car hood or whatever.
Right, right.
It's like all like just like really like intense stuff.
Damn, that's twisted.
On a hot day.
Elevated horror.
That's twisted as fun.
It's hot outside.
Hot day.
High noon.
What do you guys normally talk about on the show?
Yeah.
So we haven't really decided.
Yeah.
It's food, fast food restaurants that we enjoy.
Yeah.
So the talk about part was probably.
Talk about was fun.
That was a good guy.
It was a good area.
It was a good area.
It was not executed in a way that I think we'll even be able to use it.
Interesting.
Got it.
Yeah.
You want to get something clean about food?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Actually.
Big food guys.
I love chicken parm.
If we could.
That was not clean because I was speaking.
Sorry.
Get it clean.
Yeah.
Let's get it clean.
It's tough.
There's five of us.
We got a clean and let's get something sort of interesting.
I'm going to let Eric do it.
That's okay.
Is that all right?
He's guitar Ferrari.
I think maybe we got yours.
Wasn't necessarily clean.
But I'm going to let Eric get this one.
on from that.
What was his suggestion?
And so I think we're going to get Eric's clean take on food at one, two, three, and.
I like chicken farm.
It was close to his, but it was less.
Yeah.
He said he loved chicken farm.
Yeah, I think mine was similar to that.
No?
Extremely.
Was it supposed to be different?
I know it wasn't clean, but like, I kind of want to use his just because at least it's a stronger stance.
Can we go back?
Do we have that marked?
Felt kind of sincere.
Yeah.
Can we use Tom's instead?
Can we clean up any of Hayes' audio on the Love Chicken Parm from Tom?
Because, you know, if we separate the tracks, I feel like it could be worth just like turning Hayes down.
These are SM-s-bumping up the love.
Maybe take at least a month to do that.
AI can do it.
There's no rush to get this out.
When does this come out?
When is this dropping?
Hopefully before our album, I was 28.
Oh, sorry.
Sorry, it's not dropping.
Unvailing.
You see it.
We say, yeah, we say unzipping.
Right.
Zipping.
Okay.
We're unzipping this one.
It's just a habit.
It's a habitual thing I said dropping
because we've said that, you know?
Yeah, bitch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What was that?
Bye.
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