HomeTech.fm - Episode 264 - Throwbacks and Throw Rugs

Episode Date: June 29, 2019

On this episode of HomeTech: FCC filings reveal a new TiVo Edge DVR. Dish unveils a new internet and live-streaming bundle aimed at apartment dwellers. Screamin’ display deals unveiled ahead of Prime Day. A new deal brings Amazon Music to Comcast subscribers. SnapAV unveils new Araknis WAPs. A new entrant to Li-Fi category, but will this technology ever take off? The most tedious factory-reset sequence of all time. And much more…

The Home Tech Podcast is supported by you. To find out more, go to hometech.fm support. This is the Home Tech Podcast for Friday, June 28th. From Denver, Colorado, I'm Jason Griffin. And from sunny Sarasota, Florida, I'm Seth Johnson. Jason, what's going on? How you doing? Fourth of July coming up. Yeah, it's coming up fast. I mean, we were looking at the calendar. What's today? It's the 25th. Next week is July 4th weekend. Yeah, I can't believe it.

The year's almost halfway over. I'm just shaking my head. Sitting here recording. It goes by quick. Do you have any plans for the 4th? No, probably like fireworks maybe, I guess. Like we'll get some. It's about as crazy as it gets these days right

yeah well i think last year my neighbor like my neighbors across the street uh had a bunch of friends over and like we live in a cul-de-sac so like there's really no one else around except a couple of homes and they they were they were the guys that bought the like the big giant packs right the big giant right explosion pack? The big giant explosion pack things. And they were setting them off there in the front yard. Of course, my daughter slept through all of this. And so we were shooting little tiny little Roman candle things off in the backyard going, ooh.

And then all of a sudden, all hell breaks loose out front. And so we had neighbors that were like on the next street over come walk over to our house and were like, hey, did you guys do that show? That was great. It was better than going downtown. You know, it's like, OK, funny. Hopefully they'll do it again. Yeah, we don't have a ton of plans either.

There's a local event at a really big park that's nearby that we'll probably go to during the day. But, yeah, we'll head back. And we have similar sort of experience in our neighborhood where lots of neighbors lighting off fireworks. And unfortunately, well, we're hoping this year that my daughter will be a little bit better. But the last couple of years, it's really freaked her out. She's like very much not into that. And so, yeah, it'll just be funny this year to see. It usually ends up what Fourth of July basically translates to in our house now is daughters sleeping in our bed night because she's too scared of the fireworks. Yeah.

I mean, I say that my daughter may sleep through it, but, you know, kids change. They do different things. This year she may be freaked out. Yeah, you never know. Yeah. they do different things like she this year she may be yeah you never know yeah so hopefully hopefully she does what she normally does and sleeps through the entire night and just like tunes it doesn't want to wake up and tunes out the world yeah all right cool well yeah that's coming right up so i hope you have a great fourth and yeah our next show that we release will be one day after so big holiday coming up and we'll look forward

to that but just uh just you and me here on this episode, Seth, and what do you say we jump into some home tech headlines? Let's do it. TiVo is getting ready to introduce the next generation of its DVR. If a new FCC filing is any indication, the new device, which is being called the TiVo Edge, it's like TiVo Extreme, is once again being made by set-top box manufacturer AERIS.

AERIS FCC filing is heavily redacted, but the naming of the documents included in the filing makes it clear that this is in fact a Series 7 device. This would represent the first major refresh of the TiVo lineup since the introduction of the Series 6 Bolt devices in way back in 2015. Yeah. Interesting. And Zatz, not funny, Dave Zatz doing some good reporting on that. We'll link to a story of his in the show notes and some good commentary in there. But it's interesting. It looks like this model in question is for cable, quote, according to the FCC filing. So this will be like a cable card type of device. You know, in the past, TiVo has made separate models for cable cards and cord cutters.

And it's just interesting to see what's going on with TiVo. They've been moving away from the hardware manufacturing. I know they partnered with Ares to manufacture the Bolt. So, you know, not a big surprise to see them working together. But yeah, they've just been an interesting story to watch. And like you were saying before we started recording tonight, they seem to have some staying power. Questions sort of swirling about the health of their business right now. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I love my TiVo, but it's been a long time since i used it i sold them

all off uh to other people who wanted them and and i never got i never got the the bent one i think that's the the series six bolt models where the bent white looking things yep never never bought that one so that was about the time that i started pulling back and thinking about cutting the cord and then when i finally did it of course t, TiVo is not needed. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll keep an eye on that. Moving on here. DISH has announced the launch of DISH Fiber, a combined Wi-Fi and live streaming TV bundle for those living in multifamily communities, such as apartment blocks and student housing. The service lets landlords offer two services, Wi-Fi and live stream TV, direct to their tenants, while the property owner manages the overall contract with DISH.

Each resident has access to their own personal network. So pretty interesting. I know in my days as an integrator, we were always sort of grappling with any time we tried to do like sort of condo or these types of units, if there was any sort of rental involved, it was always kind of a question mark of how these contracts would work. And I know we had more, it seemed like more and more MDU developers were looking at ways to kind of integrate TV or network into their offerings. So I'm not sure how this will play out in the professional market, but interesting nonetheless. I want to say DirecTV has been doing this for years. DirecTV or going with a cable company was your only option.

I know they had something similar to this. I know there's a couple of other cable-type companies. I can't remember, maybe Charter or something like that have a similar service where they install... We have some bigger developments here that some random cable company came into and said we're going to do the service on this and they hooked up you basically have a satellite dish uh a big satellite dish as you drive into the complex and then they they actually pipe the cable signal through traditional copper lines out to all the houses so um i feel like this has been been done before but not by dish i guess, is what the story is about.

Coming up, Prime Day is rumored to take place on July 15th. But you don't have to wait until then to score a 4K TV at a great price. Amazon has already taken the axe to some of the prices, reducing a handful of top-rated big brand televisions as much as 46%. A couple of examples here. 50-inch Toshiba Fire TV Edition, $300, down $80. 55-inch Samsung 7 Series 4K TV is $498, down about $100. And a TCL, this is our favorite, show favorite, 65-inch TCL 6 Series 4K TV, $700, down, I question this, down $700.

I feel like this one's been around this price before. Yeah, I'm sorry. We were talking about this before the show, and I just realized now, I do think this is actually a pretty good deal. I was thinking back, we were talking about, I own the 6 Series, but what I didn't catch is this is a 65 inch and I own a 55. And I want to say that when, when we bought our 55, that we actually paid about that. So I think there's actually getting a pretty good deal here in the sense that, yeah, like that's the price we paid for a 55 and you can now go pick up a 65, uh, for that price. So I got to say, we've been really happy with our, our six series. It's a

great TV. And it, as we talked about numerous times leading up to my purchase, it was consistently ranked as one of the best TVs in 2018 for under a thousand dollars. And so far we've been really happy with it. Good deal. Good deal. A couple, a couple other things to keep in mind. The prime day, like I said, kicks off on Monday, July 15th, ends on July 16th. That's the rumor. This will be the longest day at 48 hours in length. I don't know how that, maybe it goes all the way to the end of July 16th. So that makes it 48 hours. And you need to be a Prime member, of course, to access the deals. And the big deals this year are probably on 4K TVs and smartwatches.

But also, keep an eye out. This is a good hint i saw walmart and best buy will also likely have discounts on the same day so yeah keep an eye out for that competition good old capitalism exactly yeah take advantage of it i i saw a story as i was preparing for this week's episode of target was also getting ready to do like a 48-hour deal where you could get free shipping on anything on their site. So like you said, capitalism at work here, and everyone's kind of being forced to react to Amazon driving this Prime Day, all of these deals, and that's to the benefit of consumers. So if you're looking for some new tech,

now's a good time. July 15th, coming right up. One quick deal I saw, the Google Home, the old Google Home that we talked about. I know they come out with this Google Nest Hub, which is the screen thing that they have, basically. But I've seen that one as low as like $70 recently. So the deals are to be had out on that one thing. And that's like, I think it started shipping at $150 or $200, somewhere around there. Yeah. So as they try and clear out that inventory for the new ones to come in, yeah, pick up one of those because it's a pretty good little kitchen device.

Amazon garage sale. Yeah. All right. Well, speaking of Amazon, Amazon Music will be integrated for the first time by a pay TV provider through a new deal with Comcast's Xfinity X1 and Xfinity Flex services. The streaming music service will roll out on Comcast over the coming weeks on X1, which serves two thirds of Comcast's 21 million households, as well as on its recently launched internet-only Flex platform. The move follows last year's integration of Prime Video into X1, which also features Netflix, YouTube, and other streaming apps alongside traditional pay TV content. That sounds pretty cool. If you're a Comcast, you get a little bit of Amazon music, which I'm so confused by this Amazon music thing.

It's just so nebulous to me right like yeah well they've got like multiple uh offerings now tears yeah i think they've just i don't know maybe done a bad job of sort of packaging it up uh because you don't you know that's really all it is it's like it's tears and you get a certain level with prime but then they've got amazon music which is like their their sort of more robust offering. But yeah, it's an interesting trend that we've seen more in recent years with streaming options being bundled along traditional offerings. And I think you're just seeing companies like Comcast try to find ways to reduce churn any way that they can and add

little value adds here. And so, you know, it's definitely not a bad thing for consumers. And people, their customers definitely do appreciate that. Like I have a friend that kind of switches back and forth between Verizon and Comcast or Frontier, I guess now in Comcast all the time because like he likes some features. Like he was on Frontier with the, and then Comcast came out with some kind of like

the X1 voice remote thing. And he's a builder and a lot of his clients were getting that, uh, remote. And he was seeing like how much you could do with the voice search remote. And I think his partner, uh, like his business partner got, got the same thing and was showing him that you could do it. And he switched over to that and he's like, well, can we, I have a control four system in his house. He's like, Hey, can we get, can we get this control four remote to talk to Comcast any kind of way?

And he's like, Nope, can't do that. Um, but he, he's, people like these little value add features that you can add onto it. And believe it or not, like things like this, just go a long way for a lot of customers. So, um, it, yeah, it's good to see them being a little more progressive and, and customer oriented, you know, you don't hear about cable companies doing that often. No, you certainly don't.

Amazon announced a new upgraded Fire TV called the Fire TV. Get this, Jason, another EU edition. It has Dolby Vision. Yeah, Dolby Vision. This is basically an upgraded Fire TV, and the display model is made by Toshiba. A 55-inch model is available starting today for $450 with the 43 and 50-inch versions arriving on the 30th, costing $330 and $380 respectively. One of the most compelling features of the Fire TV Edition is its integration with all Echo devices. You can get Alexa to turn on your TV

and pick up where you left off on your last binge. Yeah, no, it's interesting to see. I mean, they've had their Fire TV edition out before this appears to be sort of just a next gen. There's not a ton of differences being reported other than, of course, the addition of Dolby Vision. And, you know, they've looks like partnered with some content providers to make search really easy. So there was a demo where

they said, you know, watch Our Planet, for example, and pulled up a list of results and launched Netflix and all of the stuff that you're sort of starting to come to expect from these things. Also was interesting, they talked about camera integration. So they showed this in a demo. Sounds like they had sort of a private showing, not a private, but a kind of an exclusive showing to the press of this. And during the demo, they brought up, you know, cameras right on the TV using voice commands. So that's kind of nice as well. So just another good option out there if you're looking for a TV with kind of that input zero functionality, right?

No additional external boxes required. All of the smarts just sort of built right in. Yep. Sounds pretty cool. All right. Well, moving on here, SnapAV's Arachnus Networks has released two new wireless access point models designed to deliver high speed for installs with multiple wireless clients. The Arachnus 510 and 810 series indoor access points are powered by two, and I never remember how, if this is MU-MIMO or if you actually spell those letters out, multi-user, multi-input, multi-output is what that stands for, technology. So kind of the, you know, the latest hotness, I guess, there on the access points.

As with all Arachnus products, these WAPs are compatible with Oversea, SnapAV's remote management system, so dealers can check and resolve connectivity issues and can even create user profiles that customers can use to schedule and restrict Wi-Fi access. So as you know, I was interested to see the Oversea integration, and of course, not surprised. All Arachnids Network stuff has that baked in. I think it's, to me, one of the more compelling features of these devices. uh like no one yeah no one's gonna care about that just the client's gonna say is my internet gonna be fast and you're gonna say yes it's gonna be stable yes it's all anybody cares about so yeah that's that's the main selling selling points for these types of products um thought it was pretty cool they had two poe ports and uh of course it's dealer friendly installation product so um pretty pretty cool system and it's it And I do think it's nice that it has the overseas stuff built directly into the products because that's kind of a tough thing

to monitor these days. Yeah. Well, like you said, Wi-Fi is pretty well standardized at this point. And so to make a differentiated product, you kind of have to have those sort of value adds. And as listeners to the show know, I'm a big believer in the importance of that remote management and remote service. And so seeing that built in there, I think will be really compelling for many dealers and clients as well, just to provide a better user experience and better service experiences is really important. Well, speaking of Wi-Fi and things that you don't ever want to mention to people and acronyms for things jason let's talk about li-fi oh you had to cue up a sound effect for that one yeah that's yeah uh that's light fi i guess i don't know signify the company formerly known as phillips lighting that produces the Hue-branded smart lights, has announced a new range of internet-transmitting Li-Fi lights called TrueLiFi.

They're capable of transmitting data to devices like laptops at speeds of up to 150 megabits per second using light waves rather than the radio signals used by 4G or Wi-Fi. The product range will consist of both new lights as well as transceivers that can be retrofitted into existing lighting. The technology was initially targeted at professional markets like office buildings and hospitals rather than homes, where it has the potential to reach a much wider audience. Li-Fi. Yeah.

This one's been a really intriguing one because it's been around for a while. I mean, we've talked about Li-Fi numerous times on the show, but it does seem like it's failed to really take off. And from my perspective, I'm not terribly shocked by that. I don't know. I don't know if there's something I'm missing, but I just can't wrap my head around what the real use cases are for this. And there are some pretty clear limitations.

I mean, so one of the benefits that they talk about is that for security, it can be more secure because any technologies that are built around, I suppose, radio frequency wouldn't be applicable here. Well, the radio goes through walls. The light isn't going to go through the walls. So in theory, I guess security-wise, if you had a Wi-Fi room, it would be more secure than broadcasting. With Wi-Fi, you're broadcasting that out. Right, point to point.

But they talk about how that's also a downfall, right? Because the signals can easily be blocked. Exactly. So even if you're in a shadow, that Li-Fi signal is not going to reach you. So definitely some limitations. But I don't know, maybe in high security, like you said, or point to point type of applications, or high radio frequency environments where there's a lot of interference. I suppose I can certainly see some use cases there, but they seem really specialized. So my, you know, my prediction is that this technology is something that's going to continue to be developed, but really for very particular use cases, it's not something that's ever really going to replace Wi-Fi as we know it

today. Yeah, because Wi-Fi is so ubiquitous. Like you buy a laptop, it's got Wi-Fi. It's not going to come with Wi-Fi. In fact, you've got to get these little USB plugs to plug into your computer to actually receive the Wi-Fi signal from these lights that they've developed. So it's like extra equipment that you need and not as proven. And I guess we just talked about stability and internet being fast. Those are two very important things that Wi-Fi has proven over time that it can do. This product does not have that backing behind it. So like you said, it's got a long way to go, but it does, like they mentioned in this article, they mentioned hospitals, which I don't really think about too much, but I know our friend Nate up there in uh, Nate up there in, uh, in Boston, he does

work in hospitals. I wonder what he would say about that. Cause I know that you have to have all sorts of special kind of certifications just by listening to his shows. You have to have all sorts of special certifications to have equipment inside of hospital, right? For RF frequency emitting and all that stuff. Like it's, it's well beyond what stuff goes into your house gets. So that could be a pretty good that could actually be an excellent place to have this if it works as as they are. Right. Right. Yeah. It doesn't have any adverse health effects. Yeah. Then there's that, of course. Yeah, there's that. Yeah. keep an eye on it. It is an intriguing technology, I would say, but I'm just kind of struggling to figure out what the use cases are. I think they're pretty specialized. Right. Moving on here, Google made it clear that it would apply the Nest name

to all smart home products moving forward. This, of course, after the unification of those brands. It was big news. But it wasn't totally clear if they would rename their classic products. We now have a better idea. As of this show, according here to Engadget, a visit to the Connected Home Accessories section of Google Store, the special offers page shows the Google Homes replaceable base as, quote, the Nest Home Base. The product page still refers to the speaker by its original name, but you will also find this change in the terms and conditions

of the Google Home. So interesting story, not a ton of implications here, but does provide a glimpse into the, I guess, extent to which Google will be rebranding or renaming devices. So it does appear, according to this article, that the Google Home, Google Home Max, Google Home Mini, all of those may be on their way to a name replacement here in the near future. Yeah. And as further evidence by the fire cell I mentioned earlier, you know, you got to get those things off the show oddly enough i've been in like target recently and i went to look to see if i could pick up a google

home hub i guess for you know a price as low as 79 and it's still up to that and i think 130 140 range right now so um it hasn't hit retail yet but uh there are certain sites online that you can go to get get it for a lot lower so uh, uh, yeah, I, but I, I, I think, I think I'm going to hold out for the, the nest, the nest home hub thing. Cause that's, that, that looks killer. It looks like it does a really good job. Yeah, I agree. Well, Jason, uh, fun story that we, we, we've got to touch on. So, uh, there's a, there's a story over at The Verge called GE accidentally makes the case for not owning GE smart bulbs. Love the title.

And they have anyone that's ever dabbled in a smart home knows that part of the experience involves an eventual reset. Having trouble with your C by GE bulbs? No worries. Just follow these simple instructions. And let me go ahead and read them. You go ahead and turn it off for eight seconds. Turn on for two seconds. Turn on for eight seconds. Awesome. I already messed it up. Start over. Yeah. Turn on for eight seconds. Turn off for two seconds. Turn on for eight seconds. Turn off for two seconds. Turn on for eight seconds.

Turn off for two seconds. Turn on. You see where this is going. Like it just, it goes on for, yeah, 10 or 11 steps of this. And I love this too. Did the bulb flash three times? This is from The Verge. No, maybe you mistimed one of the 11 steps. GE recommends counting one Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi, dot, dot, dot. This is real. This is a real story. Yeah. And it's a real video too, which is linked at the top of the, of the gauge.

And Jason, I gotta say like, this came out a couple of weeks back and I thought it was funny at the time. I actually made something, a little parody video that we put up on our, our, our home tech, uh, YouTube channel. But, um, this is actually a really good video. Like if you, if, if this is the dumb steps that the company has come up with, with how to reset their bulbs, like the video is a really good way of like, they do it in real time. They're not like speeding it up and saying, you got to do this eight on two off thing. You, they, they do it in real time. They show you a little counter. They have a person there flipping a switch on the light and the guy telling you what to do at each point.

I think it's a really good instructional video. Unfortunately, the process that they documented, not all that great. It's not all that great at all. It's unbelievable to me. I mean, and then, by the way, the Verge story goes on to cite the fact that you might have an older version of the C by GE bulb, in which case you need to do this process. And it's the same sort of eight-second, two-second cycle, but it goes on for one, two. Oh, wait, no, there's some variation in here. No, there's variations,. So this is even worse. Turn on for eight seconds, off for two, on for two, off for two, on for two, off for two,

one more time through that, and then back to eight seconds and two seconds and eight seconds and two. So it's a total of 13 steps. The other one is a total of 11 steps and you know all jokes aside it is just like crazy to me that they would do this like why would you i understand that you have to design this reset sequence so that it never happens accidentally right but like five or six full power cycles it just seems crazy excessive absurd yeah well if you if you think that is crazy uh go on over to our home tech uh home tech youtube channel and i have recompiled this uh to be over an hour and a half long of uh ge reset something to fall asleep to like the ulog version exactly exactly if you have family and friends over put this on and i'm sure it GE reset instruction. Something to fall asleep to, like the ULog version.

Exactly, exactly. If you have family and friends over, put this on, and I'm sure it will be the life of the party. It's soothing. That's right. It is. I don't know. I mean, I agree with you. They did a good job on the how-to video, and that's nice, and that helps. And I don't know.

I mean, I think this is mostly just like how many people are actually going to be affected by this is, is, is pretty slim. So I don't make a ton of this story other than like, what were they thinking? Like, why wouldn't they just make it to maybe three or maybe even two cycles through this is so unlikely to accidentally happen. Um, so I don't know, maybe there was some other reason that I'm not understanding, but yeah, this just seems, this just seems crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you're a control four dealer, uh, you're familiar with the, like they

have Zigbee reset sequences and those are like taps that you can do on the, on the top and bottom buttons of the, of the Zigbee keypads. I think other companies have, I mean, a lot of companies have these, but they're, they're more reasonable. Like I think one of them is like nine tops on top, four taps on the bottom, nine taps on the top. Like, okay, there, reset at that point. Like if you turned your light off for, turned your light on for nine seconds, turned it off for four seconds and turn it back on for nine seconds, like that would be a great reset procedure for these bulbs but not on and off on and off on and off repeatedly for i don't know how how long is this i mean an hour and a

half is is what mine is but i this this you know what it makes me think of do you remember the uh do you remember the contra code on nintendo yeah it's like up up down down yeah see if you can get it i've got it in front of me. Do you remember it? Okay. I wasn't a Nintendo guy. I was a Sega guy. So I think it was up, up, down, down, left, left, B, B, A, start or something like that. Select start. I don't know.

You're pretty close. Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start. B, A, start. How many people are going to remember that? Don's in the chat room saying he was going to say that too. 30 lives. 30 lives that would give you. Yeah. For some people that was a, uh, I, I had a Sega growing up, the Sega Genesis and yeah, we, we, we, my, my friends on the street had the Nintendo, I had the Sega and we, it was, it was basically who could talk, you know, the most mess about each other.

That's right. We got the better graphics. I always looked down my nose at you Sega guys. Yeah, look at that. I got the Genesis now. I have Altered Beast. I mean, what are you going to do? That's Altered Beast.

You cannot beat that with a Nintendo. So, yeah. Oh, good times. Well, that's funny. It is a funny video. Definitely go check out Seth's parody if you're. It is a funny video. Definitely go, uh, yeah, go check out Seth's parody. If you're looking for some soothing, uh, ambient ambient video to play your next dinner party. It is actually pretty soothing. Like the guy has a pretty good voice and it's

looped enough times where it's like, Oh yeah, that's, that's pretty nice. That's nice. Got nice music playing in the background. That's right. That's right. Well, all of the links and topics we've discussed on this episode can be found in our show notes at hometech.fm slash 264. While you're there, don't forget to sign up for our weekly newsletter where we'll send you show reminders and other occasional updates about all of the great things going on here in the world of home tech. Once again, that link is hometech.fm slash 264. And don't forget, you can join us in the chat room live Wednesday, starting sometime between 7 and 7.30 p.m. Eastern time zone. Find out more, go to hometech.fm slash live. All right, well, moving on from there, let's jump into our pick of the week, Seth.

And speaking of Contra, Sega, Nintendo, we've got a throwback here for the pick of the week that I am a big fan of. I think you're going to go pick one of these up. I'm thinking about one as well. A throwback? It's a throw rug. Cue the... There you go.

You nailed that one. A square indoor rug from jcpenney.com. And this is a beauty. It's got, I don't even know, all kinds of different, I guess, terminology here for the computer geeks. You've got, you know, RAM, ISP server,.doc, network, pc.com, and a very sort of retro, I would say kind of like mid to late 90s color palette on this thing. Definitely harkens back to the early days of the internet, and I'm a fan here. What I don't know, what I can't get a sense of from this picture is the size. Like how big is this rug? It's got to be a pretty good size.

It's about 70 dollars it is a 51 inches by 51 inches so okay it's a decent size decent size work i i am it's a one half inch pile as well so nylon made quite clean it's imported of course um but man this is this is something and I gotta say like it is the most 90s rug I've ever seen computer rug I've ever seen if I had this at one of those LAN parties man you would be a god right like this would be

you would set your folding table up over the top of this oh yeah you're all set look at this it's even got like a power icon on there and an http www dot with no address after it's just dot they just left that you know it's important uh it's a beauty cgi down there in the corner like you know because you used to see those websites with a cgi url on them uh and my favorite one is like the digital logo almost like almost done it was that company that

digital uh computers uh they almost have their logo over there on the side but it's not quite but man it's a very i think i'm gonna have to get one of these it's it's on sale jason it's like 72 74 right now with this code i wonder if you get free shipping because uh i can get it by july 8th too yeah i mean this this there you go this is something and uh it's kind of live here in the garage i could use a rug or something right and you could use you could use a little deadening i could use this yes this is beautiful i actually didn't know jc penny like for some reason i guess i thought they had gone didn't they go maybe they went went through a bank restructuring or something. I think you're thinking of Sears.

Sears is the one that... Sears, yeah. But J.C. Penney in and of itself is kind of a throwback, I feel like, at this point. I don't know. They're still hanging around, I guess. Brick and mortar. Yeah, this rug is a gem. Definitely go check it out. If you're looking for some retro vibe in your man cave or your office

or something to put in your family room to really piss off your significant other, look no further. Right, right. I'll tell you how the divorce goes in a couple of weeks. That's right. Yeah, that's not going to fly, Seth. I can tell you that much. Yeah, it's not going to fly.

Even in the garage, half underneath a car, it's not going to fly. That's right. That's not going to fly. Even in the garage, half underneath a car, it's not going to fly. That's right. That's right. All right. Well, if you have any feedback, questions, comments, picks of the week, or ideas for a show, topic, or guest, definitely give us a shout. We'd love to hear from you. Our email address is feedback at hometech.fm. Once again, that's feedback at hometech.fm.

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We would really appreciate it. And go again, leave us a review on iTunes or in your podcast app of choice so uh so don and i are trading trading codes there in the chat room i see that and i i i put the uh haze modem commands in there uh and i it just brought me back to like thinking about what those were athH zero plus, plus, plus, you know, no carrier. Yeah. There's all sorts of fun stuff. I remember, I remember like being on these chat rooms on these, on these boards and like getting people to type those codes in, like you would, you would fool them into typing those codes in somehow. And they would, you would

just see them hang up and you're like, yes, I got that was a sucker exactly exactly i was the sucker on the other end of that what the heck i just hung up on myself yeah that was totally me yeah this is it's a it's a throwback i in my ear in my head right now i'm hearing the sound of my dial-up beep that's right you have to edit that in yeah i will have to i guess don posted a commodore this is before my time don posted load eight star one eight one no load star eight one and it's a commodore thing i'm not i'm not familiar with commodore very much so even stump set yeah i had to go look it up let's uh load the first program on the disc from the And it's a Commodore thing. I'm not familiar with Commodore very much. Even stumped Seth. Yeah, I had to go look it up. That's load the first program on the disk from the file specified memory location.

One of the more popular load commands of the platform. So Commodore. Commodore computers. Yeah, we're going way back. We're going way back. There you go. Throwback episode here. Throwback episode and throwback runs. All Throwback, throwback, throwback episode and throwback.

All right, guys. Well, thanks for listening to Jason. I will have a great weekend and I will talk to you next week. Yeah. Likewise. You as well, Seth. And I hope you have a great, uh, 4th of July and we'll look forward to connecting with you again next week. All right. Sounds good. See ya. All right. Take care.