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This is the Home Tech Podcast for Friday, February 28th from Denver, Colorado. I'm Jason
Griffin. And from Sarasota, Florida, I'm Seth Johnson. Jason, what's going on?
It's a momentous day today, I understand, in your house.
It is. Happy Frozen 2 day, Jason. Yes.
I didn't realize it was a thing.
I got to be honest.
I asked you if it was available on streaming, and you said no.
So what, are you going to run out to the store and buy it like a savage?
Yeah, well, like a savage, I've already been to the store and bought it.
I mean, whatever makes them happy.
Little kids.
That's right.
They like that stuff. So, yeah yeah uh frozen 2 it's out um actually uh if you haven't seen it and i don't suspect that many of
our listeners have but if you like like the artwork that goes into making uh those types
of movies like the cartoon i think it's a cartoon but it's more computer animated stuff. The details in the background scenes are incredible.
And like the costuming, the stitches.
Yeah.
There's one scene that's like in a pumpkin patch that just looks incredibly well drawn and produced.
To the point where they're like sitting, they're laying on a blanket or sitting on a blanket.
And there's dust like hitting sunlight through the leaves of the tree you know just falling out through the it's just incredible
what they're what's impressive yeah yeah i agree it's one of the few movies in recent memory for
me that i've seen in the theater we went and saw it when i was down visiting my parents in arizona
and we went to one of the nice theaters down there where you order food at your seat and all of that
and uh kids really enjoyed it.
I did not realize it was out today.
I'm a little bit out of touch apparently,
but we'll probably wait for streaming.
We've got plenty of other movies
going through the obsession cycle here at our house.
So we still watch Frozen 1 fairly frequently,
but they'll be excited once this one becomes available.
Yep, we've been listening to what my daughter lovingly calls
New Frozen soundtrack.
There you go. You want to listen to the
Frozen soundtrack? Yeah, New Frozen.
She gets that, and she's
been listening to that and been excited about the movie
coming out. We haven't got it
today. I think streaming
comes out. Of course, I want you
to buy the old janky Blu-ray slash dvd thing first i guess but then i think the streaming is going
to come out in a couple of uh a couple of weeks or months or something like yeah i have to keep
an eye out for it we've got ralph breaks the internet oh that's a good one yeah the latest
obsession so i can live with that yeah there's there's a lot of good like uh background humor in that that only like totally yeah yeah that's a good one all right well uh what do you
say we jump in here to some home tech headlines let's do it google and warner media have signed
a deal to bring hbo cinemax and hbo max to youtube tv this spring warner medias warner
warner media's other cable networks will also stay on YouTube streaming TV service, on which they've been available since 2018.
The AT&T-owned media company wants to make its own networks available as widely as possible, says Rich Warren, president of Warner Media Distribution.
HBO, Cinemax are already accessible through several uh means including apple tv channels
amazon prime tv channels uh but this is the first such distribution deal for hbo max
isn't even out yet but okay uh warner media is trying to reach agreements with other distribution
partners for the streaming service which is set to debut in may 2020 yeah interesting story i
was a little bit confused for the same reason that
you alluded to, which is HBO Max. Well, not so much that it's not out yet, but I'm not super
familiar with how YouTube TV works. So I guess this is similar just to like Amazon Prime channels
where you can get other services within the Amazon ecosystem, so to speak.
Yeah, yeah.
But like, yeah, HBO, it's kind of lumping together.
Like in the lead there, it says they're going to bring HBO Cinemax and HBO Max to YouTube.
I just think of those differently.
I conceptualize HBO as like a network with, you know, content and HBO Max as sort of a
container for that content. So I guess
I'm still a little bit tripped up on what HBO Max is exactly and how this relationship
with YouTube TV is going to look from the perspective of an individual user. But from
a business case, you know, I suppose it makes sense. They're just they're trying to, like the
story says, get their distribution as wide as possible. I think it's just a YouTube TV is like a linear TV service, just like your cable TV service.
It costs pretty much the same as your cable TV service does.
So like this would be almost like adding HBO onto your YouTube TV service, I guess it would.
And it is more of a convenience because then you're just paying like there's one mouth to feed rather than having to pay HBO Max on one end and YouTube.
Like they could combine it and maybe offer sweetheart deals and that kind of thing like initially or something like that.
I don't know.
But it seems like it's for the end user, it's just a matter of convenience.
Everything's in one spot and you don't have to worry about putting passwords
in different apps because that's always like the worst that you could possibly have to do like
maybe youtube tv authorizes with hbo max and it just shows up as a right channel button that you
can click within youtube tv right yep so good news for uh youtube tv describe uh subscribers the story
doesn't specifically say if this will come with an increase in costs.
So that'll be to be determined, I guess.
Not out of the gate, at least they're not advertising that.
But as we've seen in the past six to 12 months, a lot of these streaming services continue to incrementally raise prices as they continue to add more and more content.
So I wouldn't be surprised to see this start to correlate with some price hikes in the future as well. But again,
the story doesn't outline that specifically. Moving on here, in additional streaming news,
ViacomCBS' rumored new streaming TV service isn't actually a new service. It is instead a massive
expansion of CBS All Access existing programming.
In the company's most recent earnings presentation, CEO Bob Backish outlined his plan to conquer the
streaming market. Essentially, the plan is to throw the weight of ViacomCBS's entire content library
into CBS All Access to create a true streaming heavyweight.
The story goes on to talk about how they're going to do like a three-tiered plan.
So at the bottom, they've got their free Pluto TV.
At the top is sort of the Showtime offering, and then in the middle is CBS All Access,
which of course is currently the home of mostly CBS-related content and originals from the CBS stable. Across the next year,
the platform is going to broaden to include material from all corners of the ViacomCBS family.
Jason, I think by the end of this show, I'm going to do like a crazy wall with like the red string
between like different companies. Like a beautiful mind? Yeah, yeah, that's the crazy wall. Yeah,
exactly. Because I think that's really the only way we're going to figure out this i mean this is
this is wild okay so viacom has cbs all exists and they're going to make that
bigger and have the three tiers pluto tv which i like and i have on my i didn't i had no idea
that was viacom cbs no idea i just I just... Right. It's a weird app.
When I launch it, it has eyeballs on my TV screen.
Very strange.
And then Showtime, which no one really watches.
I mean, I guess it's got a couple of shows.
Like Outlander, I guess, is on there.
People like that one.
Yeah, we used to like Homeland.
Homeland's on there.
Yeah.
That was a good one.
I don't know.
It comes and goes.
But yeah.
Okay.
And CBS All Access. that was a good one i don't know it comes and goes but yeah uh okay in cbs all access the only
reason i have ever heard of anybody getting that is for the star trek thing um so that's like i
don't know pretty strange so they're going to dump more stuff into it to make it bigger it's
yeah it's all very confusing uh prior to the viacom cbs merger the story said well re-merger technically to make it
even more confusing uh this was not a merger between viacom and cbs it was a re-merger
uh that if you recall ended pretty messily uh if memory serves it was kind of a fiasco but
both companies had streaming platforms of their own prior to the re-merger. Viacom had Pluto TV, BET Plus, and Showtime, as well as
longstanding partnership with Netflix for Nickelodeon material, whatever that means.
And then CBS, meanwhile, had CBS All Access, which again, you mentioned home of
programming like New Star Trek, The Good Fight, etc. So yeah, I think, you know, basically what
this distills down to is in the entire ViacomCBS ecosystem, there's a whole bunch of content.
They're going to try to package that up into kind of a three-tiered offering and, you know,
go out like everyone else and try to get as many eyeballs as possible. They said the platform will gain 30,000 episodes of TV as well as up to 1,000 movies.
Says it's not clear what will happen to those adjacent services like BET+,
and if it'll be folded into CBS All Access or remain standalone.
So lots of questions here still, but ViacomCBS throwing some weight into the streaming game here.
Well, I'm sure the next one won't be any more confusing.
Comcast announced Tuesday that it's acquiring Zumo,
an over-the-top streaming service with paid and ad-supported free tier
for both live and on-demand programming.
Zumo has about 190 channels.
The companies are not disclosing financial terms of the deal,
which the Wall Street Journal previously reported was in the works.
Comcast says Zumo will operate as an independent business within the Comcast cable unit.
So, yeah, more fuel for the fire and more yarn for my crazy wall.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, the story says, who the heck is Zumo?
I had the same question. That was me. I wrote that's right. Yeah, the story says, who the heck is Zumo? I had the same question.
That was me.
I wrote that in my notes.
Okay, you wrote it.
Well, the story may as well have said it because we're all thinking it.
Yep.
Irvine, California-based streaming service was started back in 2011 by MySpace parent company Viant,
which is now part of the media conglomerate Meredith Corporation,
which owns Entertainment Weekly People and dozens of other legacy media brands.
So some big conglomerates here. Meredith acquired Viant as part of its 2018
acquisition of Time Incorporated, because if you're still following here,
Time thought buying the owner of MySpace a decade after the social network peaked was a good idea.
And then Time, I think, was, or I don't even know.
Like, it was all, okay, whatever.
Yeah.
So try to piece that together.
Zumo was started in a partnership between Panasonic
and presumably so the two companies
could slap the Zumo logo on smart TVs in hopes that anyone would click on it and maybe sign up.
And eventually LG and Vizio began shipping Zumo on their smart TVs as well.
And the company's offerings grew to 190 channels and effectively bundled live and on-demand programming in a way that is supposed to bridge cable with Netflix. And Zumo last announced in
spring 2019, they had 5.5 million monthly active users. It doesn't say whether they're paid or
free, but 5.5 million people using a service I've never even heard of. Yeah, interesting.
So the big question is why here? Unknown, according to the story, what they're going to do
with the property, what Comcast is going to do with Zumo. This offering is similar to Voodoo or Pluto,
depending on how you look at the service. Pluto, apparently 22 million monthly active users
reported earlier this month, 75% jump from a year ago. So there really are just so many of these things that it is getting virtually
impossible to keep track of them all. But who knows? Hard to speculate what Comcast's exact
motivation is here. Financial details, I think you said earlier, Seth, were not released.
Yeah, they're not disclosing financial terms. So 100% speculation, but
sometimes that can indicate that this was sort of an opportunistic acquisition. Maybe Zumo wasn't
doing so well and got bought for pretty cheap. And a lot of times if it's a bigger deal,
companies are more likely to sort of scream it from the rooftops, I feel like.
Again, that's a hundred percent speculation.
Um,
who knows?
But what's weird is it's like,
says that it's part of Comcast cable,
the cable business, not one of the other Comcast properties that would presumably like,
uh,
NBC universal has streaming services.
Uh,
they have Peacock coming up.
So like I can see them
snatching up a service like this and either rolling it into peacock or kind of putting it
out side by side maybe like cbs viacom's doing with their like three-tiered deal i don't know
but this is comcast a big player in the industry like i think this the way this reads is like if
this is going to be a separate service it may just
kind of like appear underneath on xfinity boxes maybe like if you have the comcast xfinity service
it might be for that i don't know right very strange well to make matters even more confusing
our next headline here uh comcast owned media company nbc universal is in quote advanced talks
end quote to acquire voodoo from Walmart,
according to the Wall Street Journal. With only a few months left until the launch of NBCUniversal's
new streaming platform called Peacock, the company's interest in another streaming service
may seem curious. However, the company may simply be using the same tactic employed by many other
media firms in an effort to better compete with big players like Netflix, one that entails tacking ad-supported platforms onto their business.
A story goes on to say Wall Street Journal says Vudu would compliment Peacock if the sale goes
through. Its online movie rental service would support Fandango, NBCUniversal's movie ticketing
and rental business. Peacock would set users back $10 a month for the ad-free tier
and $5 for the ad-supported one.
Vudu doesn't have a subscription fee.
It has shows users can stream at no cost,
but they can also pay for movies and series not available for free.
And the sale of Vudu is not really a big surprise.
Walmart had announced last year that they were going to have Vudoo originals and kind of walked that back a little bit later.
I think they may have canceled those originals.
I'm trying to think of where I read that or heard that, that they had canceled their originals.
And just kind of like, maybe I'm thinking of another service, but I do know that there was a memo or a report that went around a few months
later saying that Walmart was looking to considering selling the,
selling it off to someone else if it finds a buyer.
So Comcast slash NBC universal seems like a buyer for it.
And maybe they'll, they'll sell it and Comcast will own everybody again.
Right.
I just, i'm so i
mean wow there's there's like what's confusing about i think more about all of this is there is
there there are like some well-established players like netflix is kind of their own thing
nobody really owns netflix netflix has like their own studios and and content stuff that they generate in house. But like Comcast has NBC
universal, they have Comcast themselves, like, and then they have the cable, they have a bunch
of other stuff. And then you have CBS over there doing their own thing. You have HBO kind of doing
their own thing, which is Warner media now. Like, ah, man, it's, it's so's so confusing there's there's only like at the top
maybe like three or four companies but there's all these like subsidiaries underneath them that
are all doing different things and i think that's what's actually making all this more confusing
than it needs to be right yeah disney disney's another one disney like disney owns hulu now
and disney plus of course like so like there's another fourth one that I guess we can add to the pile.
I agree.
It is all very confusing and trying to keep track of who owns what is, I think, kind of an exercise in futility for most people.
Most of us don't necessarily need to understand all of that landscape. Even just trying to keep track of what streaming offerings are available
now and which ones are going to be the best fit, as we've talked about for months and months now,
is getting increasingly difficult. So it is just interesting. Comcast, so Zumo and Vudu,
both, again, depending on how you look at it, kind of similar offerings,
lots of questions about what they're going to do with those platforms specifically.
But gosh, it just continues, Seth. Two years now or more, we've been talking about how crazy
the streaming landscape is and how hard it's getting to keep track of it. Then every new
year comes and it makes the year before look like it was kind of stagnant. So where does it end? I mean, eventually it's got to slow down.
Yeah. Rashid's posting, uh, posting show art, uh, our, uh, our Slack channel over there. He's got,
uh, the guy trying to do math on his fingers and looking confused. And then like another,
another guy, like just give it up, which is that, that second photo is me right now that's right just giving up yeah i'm looking at images
here uh red thread red thread boards these are the ones with all the pictures and everything
the detectives try to crazy wall yeah there's a whole tumblr with crazy walls i'll try and find it
crazy walls yeah that's yeah that's oh you're definitely gonna need one with crazy walls. I'll try and find it. Crazy walls. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's,
oh, you're definitely going to need one soon. Crazy walls.tumblr.com. Good stuff.
And you've got all the crazy walls from every TV show. If they find one and they put one in there,
there they are. Crazy walls. Love it. Well, let's move on to some non-streaming related news.
Indeed. Hey, I guess it could be depending on how how you look at it. A scheduled storage server software update that didn't go as intended caused a 17-hour outage for Nest cameras,
according to parent company Google. The outage affected the Nest Cam, its indoor and outdoor
Nest Cam IQ cameras, Nest Hello doorbells, and the Nest Hub Max display, 9 to 5 Google reports.
During the outage, which started around noon Pacific time on Monday,
users couldn't record video or see live streams.
They rolled out a fix, and most camera services should be working now.
Unfortunately, video history wasn't collected during this time,
and you won't be
able to go back in time and see what happened uh while the uh the servers were turned off
wow i i i i can't laugh too much at this like i i know exactly how this feels you do something and
like you think everything looks good and you push it up to production and just you slowly start
finding out the whole world has come undone and not working.
And yeah, then you're scrambling five o'clock on a Friday.
The slow just feeling of consuming dread starts to creep over you.
Yep.
Yep.
Can't walk that one back.
Nope.
That's a bummer.
I wonder.
Yeah.
17 hours is a big one, though.
Usually you can figure out stuff is going downhill pretty quickly.
But to be down for 17 hours, that's something major.
Yeah.
You just hope you weren't that like one in a million person who actually had something really bad happen during that time.
And you have no access to the footage now.
So just like every professionally
installed camera system i've ever that's right that's right you go you comb back through like
a hundred hours of video footage and like the five minutes you need was where like it's always
gone glitched out yep yep everyone's been there before it says nest twitter account was was providing updates on the situation
but uh it was doing little you know could only do so much to try to reassure customers
um some customers reported trying factory resets uh thinking the issue was on their end so
all in all a pretty bad deal uh for nest users but um hopefully it didn't have too many lasting effects for too many people.
Anyways, moving on here, the listening capacity of digital assistants like Alexa and Siri
has been an ongoing major privacy sticking point in the last year. A group of researchers out of
Northeastern University and Imperial University of London have been studying
smart speakers for the last six months and have released some interesting findings. And so we
thought we'd spend a couple of minutes here chatting about these, Seth, because I think
a lot of times you hear the headlines over and over again about the privacy concerns
about digital assistants. And just by virtue of hearing those headlines over and over again,
you start to anchor on the fact that, oh my gosh, these things are always listening.
In fact, the study found zero evidence to support the possibility that digital assistants are,
in fact, always listening. However, the devices did get activated often in the study,
primarily by words that sound similar, of course, to the wake phrases.
So for Alexa, examples include words with K sounds such as exclamation, Kevin's car, and Congresswoman.
I'm just thinking, like, it's funny because we're the only podcast that refuses to actively block those,
you know, block you from saying Alexa all the time.
And now you've just gone through and said all of the false wake words too.
How do you like that?
Exactly.
But they only stay on for short intervals, a few seconds up to nearly a minute. A study did find that Echo Dot second generation and the Invoke, which is, I think was a, give me one second here.
That's a Cortana powered, Harman Kardon Cortana powered unit, the Invoke.
The study did find that those two stay on the longest between 20 and 43 seconds.
Rest of the devices had shorter activation periods with nearly half of them lasting six seconds or less. I like the custom testing space for the smart speakers that they built. It's basically a
wooden box with a video camera in it, a light bulb, and some two speakers that they used. They
piped in episodes of The Office, Gilmore Girls, and Grey's Anatomy uh and then monitored the units to figure out which ones respond responded
to those phrases which I thought was hilarious um yeah yeah so like Rory does something and like
uh that triggers the Siri thing to go off because yeah that's that's just so funny
certainly easier than having somebody talk for 125 hours I suppose yeah yeah just just just put
on Netflix streaming and you're done
just come back i guess i guess somebody has to go back through and watch all that all that camera
you know footage to see when something did get triggered and then say okay what was what was
being played at this time and listen to the recording and find out oh doesn't that sound
like a joy yeah well i mean that, that's why they're researchers.
That's true.
That's very true.
Story says the report is only one step of a larger project.
Future updates will look into other things like how many activations lead to ethnicity, accent, and other factors affect activations of the speakers.
Oh, yeah. So some in-depth studies going on there.
But again, I thought the big takeaway here is zero evidence to support the possibility that these are always listening.
I don't know how many people we have in the audience
that sort of worry about it to that extreme.
I suspect probably a pretty small portion,
but it's a concern.
And I know you hear about it a lot.
And again, I think you tend to start to anchor on that,
even though there's really no evidence to support
that that's actually happening.
Yeah, and the overwhelming evidence in the actual like things that these companies will sell is like,
yeah, we've got the data down so good. We can determine that you want Frozen 2 to go out and
buy that not by listening to your conversations over the microphones or putting in your house,
but just by like knowing every bit of your online life
and tracking everything you like and click on Facebook
and everything you like and click outside of Facebook,
they know all that data gets aggregated.
And that's what we should be freaking out about.
But no, the microphone's listening to me saying Kevin's car.
That's what freaks us out.
That's right. Yeah, there's something very like 1984 about it, but you're 100% right. In the grand scheme of things, it is an absolute drop in
the bucket for the vast majority of people in terms of what information we're putting out there
about ourselves every single day. And if you're really worried about data privacy, your echo in the kitchen is probably not the thing you need
to be looking at. Yeah. And I do think that research like this is important to finally put
a nail in the coffin here, maybe. But knowing this, I mean, common sense would have told you
that this is how it worked anyway. There's just no practical way that they could stream 24 hours a day, seven days a week
from millions of homes. Like, there's just not enough server space or bandwidth in the world.
And you would notice that on your Comcast bill. And like, this makes, like, it's good to have
this, but like, it's a bigger conversation that like we need to talk about when we need to talk
about our privacy online and how all these ad companies get all the data that they get uh and and and piece
together your digital life and and are able to target you uh for whatever you're thinking about
buying inside your head like that that's that's what uh that's that's what's crazy it's like you
hear these conversations and and they're like i was just talking about this to somebody and my phone was over there and that's all we were doing. And then
I got online and I saw an ad for it and it's like, well, yeah, that's how well they know you.
Like they know what you're talking about. Not even by listening to you. That's right. That's
the crazy part. Yeah. It's a way big, try telling that to the guy with the tinfoil hat though.
Yeah. Yeah. I guess so. Right. So anyways, interesting stuff here.
We'll include a link if you're interested in reading more about that research.
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Well, Jason, nothing in the mail back this week, but we do have a fun pick of the week.
And, uh, this one, this one made my jaw drop my jaw drop i saw this link go by on twitter a
couple times and i ignored it and then i was like all right let me watch it and it's titled the
virtual production of the mandalorian uh so mandalorian is uh is uh the series on disney plus
yeah that has come out it is a star wars related related fiction, I guess. And, you know, I've seen memes
and stuff come out of it, but this is the first time I've seen anything that has to do with the
technology behind putting together a movie quality show, TV show for the small screen and streaming
services. And what they did blew my mind. Absolutely blew my mind.
Yeah, this was pretty cool. I have to admit, I have not watched The Mandalorian, but I suspected
just based on what it is and what I know about it, that the production would probably be really
high quality. And you sent this over to me before the show tonight, and I took a look at it. And it's just amazing how far technology has come because it's a little bit hard to describe.
Again, the podcast isn't always the best medium for stuff like this, but it's basically you got
this giant space. I think they said it was 21 feet tall by like 75 feet wide and I don't know how many feet deep. This is a giant
three-dimensional space that you can go into. And the way I understand it is they can take these
computer rendered backdrops. So you see a scene where it looks like they're on
this very exotic, like red planet with huge rock walls and things like that.
And they're able to project that right up onto the screen,
up onto the room so that the actors in there
are actually immersed in this environment as they're filming
versus maybe just like a green screen or something like that.
And they're able to make these environments fully 3D
and film within there.
And gosh, you just got to imagine the technology has to be
really expensive to set up but once you're set up you know sky's the limit with what you can do with
these things you don't have to travel you can customize all of your your backdrops and everything
pretty cool video you got to i'm not doing it justice here you got to go check out this video
it's a 270 degree semicircular led wall and then a ceiling that
covers the top of it and they can just they just play digital environments on there so like you
were saying like yeah you don't have to travel like you don't have to travel like one of my
old clients was uh unit production manager for some some very very very high-end movies. Let's just say that. And she would be in charge of getting thousands of people into a random village in Iceland to do some shoots with famous actors.
So she's in charge of getting all the hotel rooms, everything, cottages rented.
She just had no idea how she was going to do it.
She's like, am I going to rent a cruise ship and just ship everybody up there on a cruise ship crazy getting all the equipment in
and crates and getting it shipped over that's all on her to do and that that virtually goes away
with something like this where you're just like okay today we're going to film on the red planet
with lava but tomorrow is a snow scene and we're just going to basically shift the lights over to
be cooler and the background is going to instantly change and, I don't like it being 12 o'clock.
Let's make it five o'clock. Boom. Done. Right. This is incredible. Amazing. Absolutely incredible.
Yeah, absolutely. This is a great find. So again, we're, we're doing our best to do it justice,
but if you're in at all into technology and production and how they make these things
become a reality. Go check
this out. It's about a four minute video. Um, and pretty quickly into it, you'll get a sense for
what they're doing. Pretty cool stuff here. It's hard to wrap your head around, but I had to watch
it three times to figure out what they exactly were showing off. And once I understand, like,
it's just a virtual set. Like, uh, I just blew my mind because this, this is a random TV show.
I mean, at random, it's got a lot of money behind it, but it's just a TV show on the, you know,
on a streaming service. This is going to make it into movies. This type, this type of technology
is going to make it into movies and, and, and other TV shows fairly quickly. I mean, they're
going to, there are plenty of other directors and, and UPMs that see this and they're going to go like, we can save millions of dollars,
but just by setting this up and I can get exactly what I want when I want it. Um, yeah, I, this,
this type of technology is going to be all over the place and we're going to see a lot more of
it in the future. Right. Yep. Absolutely. And, and, you know, you know, the next rich guy
that somebody watched this and they're like, they're yeah i i want that that's my home theater i want that 270 degree screen in my home theater done please
there you go it's gonna be up to some poor integrator to get that yeah yeah you're you're
right exactly cool well good find on that one if you're listening and you have any feedback
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That was a big thread there for a while
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Well, Jason, that wraps up the show for this week. Uh, I am going to head back in. I hear,
I hear the, uh, the songs from Frozen 2 wrapping up in there. So I am going to head back in. I hear the songs
from Frozen 2
wrapping up in there.
So I'm going to go see
what I can catch
towards the end here.
I'm going to go buy
more red yarn.
Definitely going to need that.
Oh my gosh.
Yes, I'm running low.
You can buy,
I'm going to need a stiff drink.
Exactly.
Red yarn and a stiff drink.
There you go.
All right.
Well, we'll let you go
and hope you have a great weekend and we'll look forward to reconnecting with you again next week. Thanks for in a stiff crank. There you go. All right. Well, we'll let you go and hope
you have a great weekend and we'll look forward to reconnecting with you again next week. Thanks
for tuning in everyone. All right. Talk to you next week. Take care, Seth.