HomeTech.fm - Episode 294 - Corona-Cones

Episode Date: March 13, 2020

The Home Tech Podcast is supported by you. To find out more, go to hometech.fm support. This is the Home Tech Podcast for Friday, March 13th from Denver, Colorado. I'm Jason Griffin. And from Sarasota, Florida, I'm Seth Johnson. Jason, how are you doing? I'm doing all right. I'm on self-quarantine. Yeah, this marks week three of our Corona coverage on the Home Tech Podcast. I'm battling like a very minor cold, but I'm much more cognizant of my immune system and not being out and about and spreading it around and all that. It's definitely top of mind. This thing just keeps... You touching your face?

Yeah. All of that. All of that. So it definitely keeps, just keeps getting scarier. I feel like lots of impact on shows, I noticed, this week. Yeah, I think last week we were talking about ISC West. We talked about a couple of shows, and I think I failed to mention ISC West at the time. At the time, they had only said that they were going to uh they had canceled their chinese pavilion um mostly out of like you know the mostly i would think that the chinese can't even get here because we had some travel restrictions that were brought down right where people who are in china can't can't even yeah that's what they said it was because of the

travel ban so yeah i mean it takes like a long time to get through that. So they were, they had shut that down. And then like literally the day after we recorded, ISC said, okay, we're just going to punt. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to push this show back. They're going to, what they said, delay the show until July. I have, I have not heard the word delayed used in front of a major show before. I think that just means canceled, but I don't know. I wonder. Yeah, logistically, it's got to be insanely difficult.

ASEAN, their spring conference also says delayed until July. The Vancouver Tech Summit, CDA Tech Summit has been canceled. So there's three big ones. Yeah. This is, you know, in the grand scheme of things this is happening everywhere um facebook canceled theirs i heard io was canceled i'm sure wwdc will be canceled because yeah major auto shows i mean this is happening everywhere and no surprise there also attendee one attendee at the recent Florida CDA Tech Summit apparently has tested positive for coronavirus.

Oh, for coronavirus. Yeah, because when you come to Florida, you're going to catch something. That's just a guarantee. But yeah, we're almost like ground zero here. There's a lot of than people think of, because last week, I think we were talking about one. There was one person in a hospital here, and I found out that this person was like 60 years old, had gone in for pneumonia and had not had traveled anywhere. So obviously it's been going around without and he just picked it up somewhere, maybe, you know, walking through a business or a woman or community spread. So obviously it's been going around for a little while longer than we all we all kind of knew and

it's here it's here now um so just kind of have to be careful like you said wash your hands and don't touch your face and all that good fun stuff that i'm sure that like every literally every other news source is probably telling people to do but um you know it kind of is what it is like a flu and all we just have to worry about, I guess, all the older people with compromised immune systems or breathing problems or that kind of thing. Here in Florida, that's more of a major issue, I think, than really anything else. I think that's the safety of the older people who may not be able to deal. From what my doctor was saying last week, for my daughter, it's going to be a sniffly nose.

For me and you, it's like a bad cold. But for older people, I mean, it could be much, much worse. Yeah. Yeah. So let's see. It says here the Fort Lauderdale event was February 25th at those events, and you're still not experiencing symptoms. March 12th, they say, is when the incubation period would roughly be over. So if you're not experiencing any symptoms now, by the time you hear this, the incubation period will be over. So you're probably in the clear, thankfully, but still scary and still something to be mindful of,

even though, like you said, Seth, for younger people, it does sound like this doesn't tend to be a hugely scary thing in most cases. But you never know. There's always the chance for complications. So anyways, we won't stay on that topic any longer. I'm sure everybody's getting their fill and then some of coronavirus news. But I thought we would touch on some of these industry-specific show cancellations in case anyone wasn't aware and needs to change some travel plans. Yep. Greg is asking in the uh in the chat if the expo has been canceled and i don't i mean that's way down in september i mean

all things go well this thing kind of passes over um over the summer uh and and we won't have to worry about it next september uh hopefully the expo kind of stays the same we'll all be up there partying in Denver. Uh, otherwise, man, that, that would be a huge mess for, that'd be a big, yeah. Yeah. I, uh, I don't know. I know, I know we don't want to stay on this topic too much longer, but I was listening to an interview, a couple of interviews where this was mentioned, the, uh, the Spanish flu back in like 1918. It comes back. And what's kind of scary is, yeah, it tapered off during the summer, but then in the fall it came back even worse. Right.

And so Cedia being right around September, you know, that's still late summer. So it's hard to say. But yeah, you're right. I mean, that would be a huge deal. We'll see. Yeah. Yeah. Everything will be out of business by then, says Greg.

Well, let's hope not. I mean, it's something to keep your eye on because, I mean, we are seeing these like massive slowdown. I mean, the gas thing, what was it, Saudi Arabia and their gas thing really didn't help out the stock market this last week. And it's all looking volatile right now. So keep an eye out for things. For sure. It's time to start, you know, tightening up the belt, you know, like if you haven't already, because it feels like for me, since we went through that, like 2006 downturn, it feels like to me that most dealers have tightened up the belt quite a bit and kind of know how to run a lean business if they had to. Um, but I don't know, maybe other guys have gotten into business or been gotten more successful in the last couple of years and maybe don't have everything kind of locked down and ready, ready for a storm that could come.

Because it certainly feels like to me a storm could be a Bruin and later in the year. And, you know, this stuff is all delayed. It's not like the stock market crashing indicates that, you know, we're going to, we're going to have problems in the industry. You know, it, it may or may not happen. The stock market is just saying, Hey, we're betting that something may, you know, crash later on, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to, but it's never a bad time. Like right now, while things are good to take a step back and take a breather and look at your business overall and say, you know, what would happen if we lost, you know, 25% of our business, something like that, like what would happen and start preparing for that? Cause it could, I mean, it could happen. Who knows? Ironically though, it's like the very act of large numbers of people doing precisely what you just described can also in

ways precipitate, like it almost becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Right. Yeah. That's true. Right. Cause, cause all of a sudden everybody's like, oh, I got to tighten up my precipitate like it almost becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy right yeah that's right because because all of a sudden everybody's like oh i gotta tighten up my belt so they lay a few people off and then you know the market their local market responds and it just these things have such a i wouldn't say go that far i would just say like i'm not advocating for people to get fired but i am saying like maybe it's time to like look at whatever an action plan would look take you know look like uh and kind of getting ready for ready for something to come down the pipe. Like just be aware.

I guess the pipeline could shrink a little bit. It could keep going, though. I don't know. Like no one really knows. I mean, that's that we were in, um, it's been a long time since anybody's had to, to deal with, you know, not having work thrown at them and, uh, the day could come that that doesn't happen. So it's always a good idea to, to kind of like, right. Think about that stuff. Be, be prudent, I guess, is all I'm advocating for. Yes. We're not advocating for firing people.

No, no. Let's go on record with that. Anyways, what do you say we jump into some home tech headlines? Let's do it. The original Philips Hue bridge used by the brand's popular Hue bulbs to interface with smart home and digital assistants is losing support for all internet connected services on April 30th, 2020. They couldn't make it April 1st, could they? And that includes both Google Assistant and Alexa integrations. Once the date passes,

customers will still be able to use the Hue Bridge version one, but only when connected to the same local network using the legacy Philips Hue Bridge version 1 app. However, Philips won't be offering any new software updates for the app, including security patches. And due to those security concerns, Philips recommends that customers upgrade to the version 2 model of the bridge rather than continue using the version 1 product with the limited functionality. Always a good idea to stay on those security updates. Yeah. Yeah. The company announced this, let's see, that the V1 bridge would be losing support last year. So we've known about this for a while. In a comment to CNET explaining the

decision, Phillips Hue noted that, quote, the Hue Bridge V1 no longer has the resources to guarantee the evolution of the system from compatibility and quality to speed and security. Thus, we decided to end support for it. And I think, you know, that is one of the unfortunate realities of hardware. And I know everybody can get a little upset when these sorts of stories break, but there is a point at which the hardware is just too difficult to support and manufacturers are going to have to make these sorts of decisions. Yeah. I'm curious what this thing, I don't even know what a V1 hub looks like. I have one of

these. I have a Phillips Hue, but I don't know what the version one hub looks like. I don't even know if I, it probably is a version one hub. funny funny you should ask it's easy to tell if you've got the v1 bridge or not the original model the one that's losing support is circular while the v2 model is rectangular i can't tell you there's no way i'd have to go i'm i'm 90 sure it's circular so I may lose control over, well, one light, or I'd have to go out and get the little, the Virgin 2. Silver lining on this, if I have the V1, I can go out and get the square Virgin 2, and the V1 can go make its way right over into the museum, right?

There you go. Yeah. Perfect. Add to your collection. You're becoming quite the curator. It's a responsibility I've chosen to take on, and I'm proud to be able to help with the industry in this manner. You're doing us a great service. Keep it up. All right. Moving on here. Apple's HomeKit Smart Home Framework is expected to receive

three major new features in iOS 14 and TV OS 14. 9 to 5 Mac has learned. Big improvements to HomeKit lighting, cameras, and Apple TV audio are in development for release later this fall. So there's a few of these, starting with the top one, night shift for lights. I think that's what we call circadian rhythm. It feels like it is. Yep. That's exactly what it is. And HomeKit has had this before. There's been abilities to color change lights like manually or through schedules. But it appears as though what they're planning to add is developing a feature where you'll have the ability to gradually change the lighting temperature throughout the day. So again, very much like that circadian lighting that we've heard a lot about in the industry.

It says some smart lights, including LIFX bulbs, already support this feature, but they currently require manufacturer apps to work and control isn't exposed in HomeKit. And it sounds like that may be changing in iOS 14. So that's pretty cool. It's a welcome change, definitely. I mean, I can think in our industry, Catra made like huge waves when they announced and showed off this type of integration. For that to be brought to something as easy and simple as HomeKit, I mean, that's huge. Yeah, definitely. Moving on from there, HomeKit cameras, some enhancements coming here. It looks like they are expanding the features in iOS 14 to have new face classification,

which will include a people identification feature. That's nice. Kind of playing catch up, I guess, with the Google Nest. Yeah, it says it'll not only detect people in general, but also offer notifications around detecting specific people in your family. So that's kind of nice. And lastly, HomePod Apple TV speakers. So 9to5Mac expects tvOS 14 to include a new permanent audio output option for Apple TV streaming boxes. For example, a user could permanently select HomePod stereo pairs as the default audio output without manually choosing the AirPlay 2 target every time. That's welcome.

So that'd be kind of a nice feature if you're using those. It says HomePod support has gradually improved with the Apple TV, but it is still possible for the Apple TV to lose its connection to HomePod when the smart speaker is used for other tasks. So this looks like an enhancement to something that you can already do, but it's going to make it more reliable and easier. Yeah. I would say that's a welcome feature and any feature upgrade to the HomePod is welcome, but I would say that's definitely a welcome feature to be included into the ecosystem for AirPlay. I got to say that I'm not, I'm like, I don't know. They sound great, but I'm just like the integrations

between HomePods and macOS and iOS, just kind of like lacking. I don't know. Maybe they're just spoiling me um but when i go to play uh play audio it works most of the time sometimes the stereo pair loses out and kind of flakes off so uh-huh maybe maybe since they're updating you know this uh airplay 2 stuff maybe since they're updating that there'll be a fix for that kind of thing too you never know when these these things get updated and fixed what else they'll fix.

Right. Time will tell. This week, Ring officially revealed the Video Doorbell 3 and Video Doorbell 3 Plus, which is elaborated on the technology behind their new pre-roll feature. Ring founder Jamie Siminoff explains in a blog post that the company had to engineer a product that was constantly recording video footage without draining the battery. The solution is a three camera array, two of which capture pre-roll footage at a low resolution and low frame rate and black and white. And the main camera still captures color footage at 1080p. And by using this rolling buffer, pre-roll footage constantly rewrites itself and then uploads it to the cloud

when some event takes place. This is a pretty cool development for Varinga. It's kind of smart. They're using a little on-device camera to do what our NVRs do. And then when something happens, they upload that and everything else. And I've noticed even on, like without having these video doorbell threes, there's a little bit

better, you know, pre-capture coming from like the ring pros and older generation stuff too. So they're definitely still working on this stuff in the background. Yeah. It's interesting. It says here, pre-roll will only be available on the Ring Video Doorbell 3 Plus. So the upgrade from the standard edition may be worth a $30 difference. So that's something to be mindful of. But yeah, it'll definitely give you a better idea of what's happening. It's always any time you have some sort of a camera system and you get the notification and the clip kind of starts abruptly or it misses

something important at the beginning is always really frustrating. So I think having that better ability to get pre-roll so you can get a little bit more of the lead into whatever the event was is definitely helpful. Right. My favorite one that I've ever captured was the Amazon guy walking up to my house about 10 feet away., he makes one of those underhanded softball throws of the package. It lands on the door, and as it's landing and making a thud, he raises his phone, captures the Amazon, it was delivered thing in his app, and walks away. It was so beautiful.

I'll try and dig it up and put it in the show notes. It's such a beautiful thing to watch. You need to. Gorgeous form. Yeah, gorgeous form. If it was a sport, he would have won the medal right there. All tens. Yeah, exactly. One fluid motion, capture, boom, he was gone. It was really amazing. He's had some practice. All right, moving on here. Sonos is doing away with recycle mode. I had not heard of this. There's

been a lot of news about Sonos. I have to admit, I wasn't familiar with this. This was a controversial part of the company's trade-up program that rendered old devices inoperable in exchange for a 30% discount on a newer Sonos product. The trade-up program still exists and customers who own eligible legacy products can get the same discount, but they're no longer required to permanently brick devices that might still work just fine. Yeah. We covered a lot of this through, I think it started back in December and the internet rage boiled. Yeah. This detail of the program just slipped under my radar. Yeah. I think you were around the January timeframe, you had been doing a lot of travel. So you may have, this may have slipped under your radar while all that was going on. Um, but yeah, we, we definitely touched on this, uh, through the month of January and a couple of times it

just kind of popped up here and there, but there, the internet outrage got to them and they backed off a little bit. Now it looks like they're completely, you know, they're completely backing off something that, you know, I, you know, the sales marketing, the marketing machine is over, like their marketing pushes over. So, you know, everybody who has already bought new equipment or traded in their thing for that 30% discount has, and, um, you know, whatever, I guess, I guess you can still do it if you want to, but they're not going to push it in the same way. Yeah. Yeah. In case anyone's listening who missed this detail like I did, this recycle mode, when triggered, would start an irreversible 21-day countdown after

which the device in question would cease functioning. Sonos said it went this route to ensure that consumer data was being erased on recycled products. Now Sonos will instead encourage customers to perform a factory reset. Seems like a lot easier option. Before bringing their old gear to an e-waste recycler. Yeah. I mean, it's six one way, half a dozen to me. What was nice, I think they're still offering, are they offering the 30% discount as well? Maybe not.

Yeah. It says they can still get the same discount but they can choose to keep it give it to someone recycle it at a local facility or send it to sonos and let the company handle the the recycling so a good deal for consumers in the end and um you know i i actually had a connect that i wasn't using and i was like well 30. So 30% discount, I'm never going to use it. So I got a bricked connect over there on the, on the shelf, uh, in the museum. Again, it's all about curating the museum. So that's right. That's right. It's an important mission. Big news in the, uh, SpaceX Starlink, uh, satellite Starlink satellite broadband will have latency low enough to support competitive online gaming and will generally be fast enough that consumers won't have to think about internet speed.

Elon Musk said that at a satellite conference yesterday. Despite that, the SpaceX CEO argued that Starlink won't be a major threat to telcos because the satellite service won't be good enough. I thought this was funny. Won't be good enough for high population, like dense areas, and mostly will be used by rural customers that have no access to fast broadband. This kind of goes against the grain of what I've been thinking this service was going to be

and was going to be a direct finger in the eye for these monopolistic telcos. But it seems like Elon is hedging his bets there and saying that, you know, no, we're not going to do that. And we're only going to offer it for the five or 10 rural customers to pay. That'll pay for this billion dollar satellite infrastructure that we put up. I don't really believe this at all. If you can't tell, like, I think this is, this is like, uh, the telcos have a history of suing people before they can get their, their stuff up and going. And I, I, I kind of feel that, that they may use that

method, the courts, or, you know, it's not like they don't have a strong lobbying arm, uh, to be able to say, no, you can't provide internet service in certain locations. It would be interesting to see how this turns out, though. Yeah, I wonder. And Musk could certainly be playing games here. He is certainly not someone I would put that past. So the challenge for any, this is a quote. He says, the challenge for anything that is space-based is that the size of the cell is gigantic. It's not good for high density situations.

We'll have some small number of customers in LA, but we can't do a lot of customers in LA because the bandwidth per cell is simply not high enough. So I don't know. It's interesting because we've been talking about this story a lot. And I mean, this is not an inexpensive endeavor. It's a big bet that they're going after. And it struck me as odd to read that, oh no, this isn't really for high population areas. It's only for rural customers. That seems like a relatively small addressable market for a project of this size. So I guess part of it depends on how they're defining rural. Because when I think rural, I think really spread out like really sparsely populated yeah i mean there's there's definitely still some uh areas in the in the u.s that have no you know no real access to broadband

because they you know they they were um there's just no lines you know there's no there's no wires to get out to these locations the technology's just not there and for that like that location uh i i that would be great like even yachts like yachts would be a good example that would you know anywhere on the face of this planet that you need high-speed internet you can get now um so if you have a fancy yacht but he's talking about like the pricing he's talking about. He keeps saying that people pay $80 plus for, I forget what the word he uses, like crappy internet service in the US. And it's leading people to believe that, you know, the pricing for this is going to be better than the $80. So I just don't see where the volume comes from if he's only targeting rural customers that, you know, uh, that, that exists.

I mean, don't get me wrong, but it's, you know, very few in the grand scheme of things are in, in, in, in rural areas are going to need this compared to like a major metropolitan area who, who, you know, want to have this type of internet service. So I don't know. It just seems like a lot of a billions of billions of dollars of a satellite network to get up there and maintain for, I'm not downplaying it, but just a handful of customers, right? Right. Right. That's exactly what I'm saying. So I don't know. Interesting. Could be Elon Musk up to his tricks. Who knows? Time will tell but really interesting project to uh keep an eye on moving on here control 4 has announced the addition of essential lighting an expansion

to the control 4 wireless lighting line to dealers in north america the new essential lighting models include just the essential smart home features making them an attractive option for even the smallest Control 4 project. At $85 MSRP each, the new dimmers and switches are a new entry point into the smart lighting category and offer an affordable solution for adding smart lighting features in smaller rooms and projects or even in commercial buildings or hotels. So it looks like a new product line here from Control 4 that's kind of their, I would say, their answer to Caseta, I guess. I'm just thinking through the pricing.

Caseta or Radio Raw. It's funny you mentioned that because like, has Lutron sued them yet? Does anybody know? What's the over under on that? I don't know. I don't know. Like two months? i don't know i don't know it was two months i don't know like it's i think this is a great price point i mean holy hell if if this had

existed when i was uh an installer and selling control for day-to-day like it would be a no brainer to start introducing this product line uh to like production building and that kind of thing where they need or they want these lower cost things but like a $130 dimmer or I think like even the adaptive phase stuff is a little more expensive like $180 dimmer or just don't make sense in some of these homes but you can I mean you could definitely sell a lot of lighting at $85 it's on par with what people kind of would expect to get from, you know, a device on Amazon with, you know, the quality and support behind Control 4. That's a win-win. Yeah, definitely. I was just looking to see it because I can't remember. I've

got Caseta here in my house, but I can't remember the pricing. Greg is saying it's a Caseta competitor. Lutron also has what, the RAW 2 Select, select i believe which was kind of a if i recall correctly it was sort of a point in between caseta and and the full radio raw line if i recall correctly or maybe i have that inversed yeah was raw to select maybe it's getting hard to keep track now yeah i mean there's there's a bunch of them, right? Might've been a higher end. Anyways, point being, it is clearly an offering designed to broaden the market footprint and make smart lighting more approachable to a bigger segment of the market. And I think that's great. I think that it's always a challenge for companies like Control4 and Lutron to

come out with different product lines that are differentiated enough that the dealers can still upsell and drive value into the higher end products. But you still want your dealers to have entry points for different clients. Right. And I think this looks pretty attractive here. They've got some details. Let's see. The control for in-wall dimmer is compatible with LEDs, CFLs, incandescent, and halogen. They've got an in-wall switch, in-wall auxiliary keypad, economical solution for three-, four-, and five-way control of loads using existing in-wall wiring to connect to the control for essential dimmer or switch

then they've got a plug-in outlet dimmer and a plug-in outlet switch as well yeah and those two are pretty cool having those i will say that um kind of looking over the specs they don't quite match what you get on the full line control for stuff but they at the price points they probably shouldn't um so that's kind of nice uh but it but it's, it's definitely, you know, I wouldn't say it's 50% of the functionality. You get a little bit more, but, um, I think it's, I think it's definitely priced right. And I, I think it's a good price point. So I, if I was a control four dealer, I'd be very excited about having this product line available, uh, to me to, to be able to use. I think it's missing,

it looks like it's missing an adaptive phase dimmer. Like I don't think they have that. So maybe that's, that'll be coming one day. And just so you know, adaptive phase dimmers and control four parlance is like, it can basically handle any load, reverse phase and forward phase, like dimming. And sometimes you need that reverse fade for LEDs. And this is especially popular for that. So sometimes you just need to have that. And I don't think that this will, I think it only does forward phase. So hopefully-

You think? I don't know. There's this line here that says, in-wall dimmer compatible with dimmable LEDs, CFLs, incandescent, and halogen. Hmm. I remember reading somewhere that, and maybe it was just on a forum

post that it was only forward phase, but I mean, you can still dim forward phase LEDs, but I think like the vast majority of guys just want to install one product and say, you know, this covers it all, uh, rather than having to switch back and forth between those two. So, um, maybe I'm wrong on that. Uh, do some little bit more digging and see if I can find anything on it. But yeah, would be one other. Yeah. One other interesting point. Essential lighting also enables professionals to mix and match with existing control for

wireless lighting and centralized lighting to meet the needs of any project. All program programmable in composer. So it looks like you can mix and match these with other control for lighting solutions, which, oh yeah, yeah, definitely, uh, definitely gives you a lot of flexibility there. Yeah. Cause you could use these $85 switches and dimmers and tuck them, you know, this could be the, the tuck them away and then use a nice control for keypad, uh, to, to chat with, you know, to control these, um, other, other loads that get tucked away in a closet or something like that. So it definitely is definitely helps out if you're a control for

dealer and you're trying to get a solution in, into the house, um, that at a certain price point, definitely helps out. I remember selling these, these control for dimmers at like, I think initially when they came out, they were $89 or something like that, or $90. And I mean, we were cleaning off left and right because there was just nothing on the market. Caseta wasn't out. There was nothing on the market that was at that price point. So it was definitely a good selling price point. I'm glad to see that they're back at it. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Well, that does it for news this week. All of the links and topics we've discussed on our episode this week can be found on our show notes at hometech.fm slash 294.

While you're there, don't forget to sign up for our weekly newsletter. We'll send you show reminders and other occasional updates about all the great things going on here in the world of home tech. Once again, that link is hometech.fm slash 294. And don't forget, you can join us in the chat room live on Wednesday, starting sometime between 7 and 7.30 p.m. Eastern. You can find out more about that at hometech.fm slash live. Absolutely. All right, Seth, we got a gem of pick of the week this week. Yeah, yeah. I mean, getting away from all the bad news around the world, we finally found a site that can give you some good news, I guess,

or some funny news, something to take the edge off. Yeah. So I was sitting around Friday. Was it Friday night? I got a text message from a friend of the show, Josh Christian over there at HTA. He said, I found a funny site to share on Home Tech. Get a load of this.

And he sent this news site, customavnews.com. Go to it. Check it out. This is basically like the onion of our industry. And I was on some of the Facebook groups over the weekend and seeing some of these post fly by and guys just cracking up over it. So definitely check it out. It's got some funny stories.

My favorite and timely one is this one here. Dealer can't wait for coronavirus epidemic to hit, so maybe he can finally get caught up. Isn't that true? Isn't that true? These are good. These headlines are great. Study finds best wellness technology is simply being rich and carefree.

It's not a lie. Give you a few more samples. Sonos CEO says Play 5 owners can go themselves. This is a family show, so we'll censor that. Ring fires Ukrainian team, switches video analysis to NSA. These are just a few samples of the mini gems of headlines on this site. This is great. Yeah, yeah. The Control 4 Pornhub driver is a very interesting one too.

I hope this stays kept up with and keeps entertaining us because it was definitely a good thing to have on Friday come through from Josh and I opened it up and said, what the heck is this? And started reading it and like, okay, uh, that that's funny. Some, somebody is doing some funny stuff for the industry here. So definitely good to read on a Friday after a long, busy week. Uh, dealer provides spiritual guidance and proper cat six termination on every install there you go it's got like a hindu there's a differentiator yeah exactly yeah if you really want to stand out in your business so yeah uh this is good stuff customavnews.com go check it out yeah check it out worth a read add that to your weekly reading list right now don't be fooled like you

know i read the onion quite a bit like don't be fooled. Like, you know, I read the onion quite a bit. Like, don't be fooled by those headlines coming through. Um, yeah, it's probably not probably. Yeah, exactly. Now we have to worry about fake news. Yeah. Oh, that's really good. All right. If you got any feedback, questions, comments, picks of the week or ideas for a show topic or guest, give us a shout. Our email address is feedback at hometech.fm or visit hometech.fm slash feedback and fill out the online form. And we want to give a big thank you to everyone who supports the show, but especially those who are able to financially support the show through our Patreon page.

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Well, Jason, that wraps up the show for this week. Stay well, get better, and wash your hands. Don't touch your face. Indeed. Yes. That's what you noted. I don't know if you noticed, but I've been touching my face the whole show and I just, I can't stop. I can't stop. You become a little bit more mindful of it and you realize how often you do that.'s crazy i was just talking to my wife about that the other day i need like big rubber gloves or something like one of those cones that the dogs have that's right there's a business idea right right we'll call that see people walking around with those we'll call them corona cones yeah masksks are all sold out, but get your Corona cone. I'll have to register a domain.

See you later. All right, Jason. Have a great weekend. All right. Take care, Seth.