HomeTech.fm - Episode 315 - Make it a Blockbuster All-Nighter

Episode Date: August 14, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Home Tech Podcast is supported by you. To find out more, go to hometech.fm support. This is the Home Tech Podcast for Friday, August 14th. From Sarasota, Florida, I'm Seth Johnson. And from Denver, Colorado, I'm Jason Griffin. How you doing, Seth? Pretty good. Pretty good. You sound tired, man. I'm beat. Yeah, we... I got to tell you, I'm not built for the late nights anymore, Seth. I know you're kind of a night owl, not me, definitely not. And we had a overnight launch last night at One Vision. We have made a big investment. I won't belabor all the details, but we have been sort of bursting at the seams with our, our contact center tech stack, basically.
Starting point is 00:00:45 And as you know, providing tech support to clients in the industry is a major component of what we do. And so we've needed to make a big investment to sort of pave the way for our next five years or more of growth. And last night we ripped the Band-Aid off. We switched everything over to our new platform and everything went smoothly, I'm happy to say. Today was our first day live. Everybody did a great job, but I've been going pretty much without a break since midnight last night.
Starting point is 00:01:14 I had caught a little bit of sleep in there, but I can't do it anymore, man. I used to be able to do the late-night thing, and it just catches up with me quick. See, this is a self-inflicted wound jason like you got to learn from a pro here you flip the switch during production like you got to flip that switch like during peak you know that's that's how you find out just live live on the edge on the edge man that's how you that's right that's how you separate the uh the men from
Starting point is 00:01:42 the boys from the boys yeah yeah yeah no the boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it sounds like a big project. Yeah, it's scary, man. Anytime you got to do one of those big transitions, it's a big deal. And you do all the prep you can. But when it comes down to the 11th hour, you never feel 100% comfortable. But the team really banded together. We made the leap. And now we've got a really, really robust solution in place that we feel like, again,
Starting point is 00:02:06 really, really paves the way for a lot of growth. So we're very excited about that. Yeah, I have one of those switch stories. It's not it's kind of funny. Like my wife is like, we bought some paint for the house and we bought too much. She's like, oh, can you bring this back? They said it was no problem to take it back. It's just white paint, not tinted or anything.
Starting point is 00:02:22 So she's like, can you take this back to the paint store down the street? I'm like, oh yeah, no problem. I'll do that. You know, it will take like five minutes. I'll be there, you know, there and back in no time. And so I get out there and like, I bring in this, you know, box of two cans of paint, you know, I'm like, I need to return this. And like three people had this like deer in the headlight look like, oh God, what do we do? And I'm like, this isn't right. Well, it turns out like deer in the headlight look like oh god what do we do and i'm like this isn't right well it turns out 6 30 in the morning they had done what you just did and switched over their entire system uh to this new way of like checking people out and of course we had checked out on the old system it involved like this is the new system so you how are you going to check
Starting point is 00:03:01 out on the old system and get a return on the new system? And it involved like a phone call and me just standing around staring at, you know, paint cans for literally watching paint dry, I guess is what I was doing for, for a little while at the paint store. So a lot of fun. Good times. Yeah. You know, someone's always going to get caught up in the, in the transition. I was first, but I was first.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Yeah. Good for you. Yeah. Yeah. But, but overall, uh, overall really happy with how it went. So that's a good thing. Yeah, that's really good. Especially, all the prep work and everything
Starting point is 00:03:30 does pay off if you put it on. Yeah, it's a big deal. But those kind of changes are, they're scary, but they're fun too. Like the way they bring the team together and you, I was just commenting to some coworkers leading up to this that that not to sound too
Starting point is 00:03:47 melodramatic here, but like you all, you do only get a few times in your career where you're part of such a big transition. I mean, this, this is like a foundational element of the company and we, it's the kind of change that you gotta at some point flip a switch and go, you can't sort of gradually ease into it. Right. And, and those opportunities only come every so often and the way they, they kind of bring people together and you sort of rally, you get this very singular sense of purpose and motivation and camaraderie as part of it. So not, not to wax too philosophical here, but it's been a really fun journey to be a part of. And the team is really, we're here at the end of our first day live with the platform. And there's a ton of sort of virtual back padding going on in Slack and everybody's kind of
Starting point is 00:04:35 celebrating a big victory. We all worked really hard. So that's always a fun thing. Oh yeah. To be a part of. And you get a nice shiny new toy to play with, right? Cause that that's right. Yeah. That's, that's it. That's what we're here for. And you get a nice shiny new toy to play with, right? That's right. That's it. That's what we're here for. That's what this whole show is about. Exactly. Exactly. Good stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Yep. Well, Jason, what do you say we jump into some home tech headlines? Let's do it. As part of its 10th anniversary celebration, Xiaomi revealed a transparent TV, the Mi TV Lux OLED Transparent Edition. When it's turned off, the display looks like a piece of glass. When it's turned on, images appear to float in thin air or so Xiaomi says. The 55 inch transparent OLED panel is likely based on LG's 55 inch transparent 55EW5TF,
Starting point is 00:05:23 has the same refresh rate, 10 bitbit color depth, and one millisecond response time. So kind of a fun technology, Seth. We've seen this at trade shows before. I know we've talked about this, I think after the last Cedia and this OLED technology where when it's off, it can go clear. I just still think it's so cool.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Not super practical maybe, but really neat. Yeah, not at, it oh this isn't actually that bad 70 7200 is what it says goes on unfortunately the catch here is according to engadget at least that this goes on sale in china on august 16th but according again to engadget it is unlikely that we will see this panel for just for sale outside of asia yeah i yeah i wonder how they're doing the transparency thing because that's like a whole other layer that our tvs don't really have like that's an alpha channel and our tvs are like well assuming all the time that there's some kind of pixel in that area so either turned on or turn off it's really strange
Starting point is 00:06:19 but kind of a cool idea yeah it's cool cool. We'll have a link up to this in the show notes or you can Google and find it. And again, just kind of a neat technology to nerd out on even if it's not super practical. Yeah, somebody's gonna get this and like make a window out of it. That's right. Put it in the front of their store or something like that.
Starting point is 00:06:40 That'd be cool. Yeah, you see this in commercial sort of displays occasionally for sure well if you're a big fan of nostalgia and can stand the pungent whiff of the old video store then how about spending the night in the last blockbuster store on the planet the offer comes courtesy of airbnb we just teamed up with a store in bend oregon to offer three night three one night stays. Sorry not three night. God each up for up to four people on September 18th, 19th and 20th.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Listing goes live at 1 p.m. August 17th through for this particular offer only residents of OK. Now you had Xiaomi. I've got this Dutchess County. The shoots the shoots. OK. I got you. So here we go. thanks uh where the store is located are invited to book sounds fun but i don't know i don't want
Starting point is 00:07:34 to hang out blockbuster yeah this is totally just you know somebody with probably some money to burn i would imagine this people are gonna to, I don't know what the price is going to be on this, but if they're only doing a few nights and it's getting pressed like this, probably turn into like a bidding war here. But anyways, I thought it was kind of funny, especially that first line, can stand the pungent whiff of an old video store. And I got to tell you, when I read that line, I was literally transported back to a video store. I forgot about that smell, but I think probably a lot of people listening, assuming you're old enough, will remember exactly what they're referring to. And there's such a
Starting point is 00:08:14 distinct smell. The other thing I thought was interesting, Seth, I don't know if you saw this, it went pretty viral. Blockbuster had a tweet. This was August 11th, so yesterday as we're recording. And they came and it just said, just checking in with the little wave symbol. And it went viral and it came across my feed and I looked and they hadn't sent a tweet since like 2014. And they sent this random tweet. It was just checking in. It had a little wave emoji and people went nuts.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I mean, it got like almost a million likes. There was just comments out the wazoo that were hysterical. So you can Google this and go find it. And then the funny thing was about eight hours later, they sent out another tweet that was like, I think it said, okay, we've seen enough. We're leaving now or something like that. And then the replies to that tweet were even funnier because everyone's like, no, don't go, you know? So I'm not sure what was going on or if they've tweeted since then. Also don't know if there's any relationship between this story we just read and their tweet the other day, but it was really random and pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:09:29 The replies to the tweet were hilarious. Yeah, I did see that float by, I think actually from you, following you on Twitter. But yeah, it was pretty good. I wonder if somebody just found the Twitter login and was like, oh, what's this? Yeah, you do wonder. And then their phone explodes for the next three or four hours. I wonder if somebody just found the Twitter login and was like, oh, what's this? You know? Yeah. And then their phone explodes for the next, you know, three or four hours.
Starting point is 00:09:52 It was pretty funny. So the random things you see on Twitter. But anyways, blockbuster sighting. There you have it. Market saturation? No way. According to the Home Automation Ownership Usage Report from NPD Group's Connected Intelligence, no way according to the home automation ownership usage report from npd groups connected intelligence just 35 percent of consumers report that they own at least one type of smart device npd defines a
Starting point is 00:10:14 smart home device as a security camera baby monitor that's interesting choice smart lighting systems controllers smart locks doorbells garage door openers, smart power sensors, item trackers. Not sure what that is. Like a tile again. Okay. Yeah. Home automation kits. And these are what across a portfolio of products. So again, 35%. And I don't know, Seth, I got to tell you when I read the story on one hand, I was like, just 35% or is is it like, wow, 35%? It's weird, right? Is that good or bad? I don't know. And it kind of harkens back to the conversation we had, I think, on our last episode about where are we in sort of the smart home adoption curve? Right. I think if you take out baby monitors and tile trackers, which I have no idea why those are in there,
Starting point is 00:11:05 the number would be significantly lower. Why are they including baby monitors in this? That's not a smart home device. That one doesn't make any sense. So, yeah, the rest of the stuff, give us the numbers on that. Take out baby monitors and tile trackers. And, yeah, I mean, it does harken back. When I read this, I was like oh yeah i mean this is 35 seems a little high but then again that kind of tells
Starting point is 00:11:33 you like we are not we are still in that early adoption phase yeah we're heading up that curve right like it's a curve it goes up and yeah you get like all the way to the top peak and it's where it's like okay it's mainstay and and then you have the valley that drops off on the other side where basically Luddites are the only ones left that don't have smart home technology. Savages. Yeah, exactly. We've got to go up that curve first,
Starting point is 00:11:58 and it's a long way up, and I think everybody wants it to be exponential growth, but I just don't see that. Not until it's easier and works. When I see this, I'm always reminded of that story we read. And I have to go back and dig it up. It was just a survey of people who had bought smart home product, put it in their house, and said, this isn't what I was promised, and took it out.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And it was staggering how many people had done that um because it's it's not what they were promised like it's not it's not a smart home it's it's it's like technology that adds frustration to their lives or whatever reason like managing lighting scenes and all that stuff it's it's it's harder to use than a regular light switch so they don't want it they pull it out so yeah when you when you can't turn your lights on and off you have to use than a regular light switch, so they don't want it. They pull it out. Yeah. When you can't turn your lights on and off, you have to use the app. Use the app.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Turn the light off. That's not smart home. Doesn't fly in most homes. No. It says, this report draws from a biannual home automation ownership and usage survey last fielded from January 6th through January 23rd. Anyways, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:13:04 5,000, just over 5,000 consumers surveyed here. One other thing I thought was worth noting in this story says a report found that ownership rates vary greatly by the type of device security cameras currently lead the pack as the most popular owned by 15% of consumers. Then you've got smart doorbells up there as well. And then they said categories outside of security are attracting far less attention. So I'm not shocked to hear that.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I know that you hear that thrown around and that's certainly true anecdotally from what I've seen for people who aren't really enthused by the smart home, but might have something in their house. It's almost always something around security, especially if you lump doorbell cameras into security that's a huge one those are everywhere now it's everywhere not surprised by that i drive i'm outside walking in my neighborhood and i'll hear i'm like coming from somewhere i don't know where it comes yeah but yeah oh yeah i noticed that last last halloween when we were out trick-or-treating i remember commenting to my wife i was like so many of these homes have ring and it wasn't even just smart doorbells it was like ring ring seems to really be dominating
Starting point is 00:14:17 that market i'm curious what their market share is relative basically to everyone else doing smart doorbells because i can tell you in our neighborhood, it's totally dominant. Yeah. Not even close. Yeah, I would say, I guess it's the one I noticed the most. I've actually on my block seen maybe like,
Starting point is 00:14:38 what is it? I want to say one was called Skybell or something like that. It was like the round one. It was fairly popular a couple of years back. But I noticed that somebody actually had one of those and not a ring doorbell and as i was walking up and down the street one day but by far and away the the ring one are the ones that you hear or see uh everywhere i mean they're pretty ubiquitous i even see them on businesses out there you know like they they pop up because they're easy to install, and they work. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Well, now they're owned by Amazon, so the distribution is just... Front page and everything. Yeah. It's not even fair at this point. Well, it's not like Google didn't warn us. Google's Play Music will officially shut down at the end of the year. If you're wondering what this means for you, your music collection, and your future streaming needs,
Starting point is 00:15:27 don't worry. There's still lots of time, and there's no shortage of options. This was all announced way back in April. It's just Google throwing in the towel on this. I thought this was more of like Google throwing a towel on their Play Music, but telling everybody to just use YouTube, right? Is that? YouTube Music replacing just use YouTube, right? Is that? YouTube music replacing Google Play Music, right?
Starting point is 00:15:49 But here's the bigger question. Do you know anyone who actually uses Google Play Music? I mean, kind of. I mean, people who have like Google Homes in their house would use that, right? That's true. Yeah. And I think for a long time, Google, I mean, I think for a long time. That's true. Yeah. And I think for a long time, Google, I mean, I think for a long time. That's true. I mean, I use I use Amazon's music service now, but that's only because I have an echo in my home.
Starting point is 00:16:12 So you're right. It's probably similar with them. But I want to say there was a time when if I'm thinking it's hard to keep up with Google and their products after they kill them off. But like I want to say Google Play music was one of those things way back when that you could like upload all your music to and it would convert it to like nice music i think apple was doing this for a time as well i don't really remember but because i guess this goes into your question of do you know anybody who uses it and the answer is no i don't use this not me i don't think i've ever I don't think I've ever used it. Matthew in the chat room says that he did.
Starting point is 00:16:49 He said mainly because I could upload all my music albums from the MP3 days. So maybe that's what you're referring to. That's what I'm remembering. Yeah. Now I'm just thinking about the giant albums full of CDs that I still have that I just don't know what to do with.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I have an entire box in our garage that i swear i'm just gonna throw away because it's just it's all cds like one of those things though right like it's so hard to bring yourself to throw them away cost fallacy yes yeah but every time i look at them and think that i'm like well no someday i'll like upload them and i'll figure out a way to access them there's good music in there but yeah it's all on spotify so why why bother actually we ran across a couple songs on spotify that weren't there and we're like why aren't these songs oh it was the uh on the aladdin soundtrack there's those robin williams uh songs uh like never had a friend like me or whatever my daughter is like sitting there saying play never had a friend like me or something and i'm like okay so
Starting point is 00:17:43 i go to play it it's grayed out i'm like what the heck and erica looked it up and i guess disney took him off after he died to basically you know not make money off his death or something like that but yeah there's there is music that just disappears off spotify too so kind of kind of weird yeah oh matthew's chiming in i forgot about this we had matthew on the show i'll i'll see if i can look up the episode number before we wrap up here i don't have it in front of me but he's said put nfc chips inside your cd cases and you got a you got a whole new system and i'm reminded about i forgot he had done he did it with dvds i remember that from the show so nfc inside of the dvd and matthew you'll have to chime in in the chat room how you made that work with a little more detail.
Starting point is 00:18:26 But there was some mechanism where the NFC chip could be waved and then a movie would tee up automatically from his server with some voodoo magic. This is the opposite of what I need. I need to get rid of this box. I can't expand the box into more space. So there's probably 2000 albums in those boxes over there. Um, I know we pulled all our, our, our DVDs or our DVDs and CD collections, probably in the, cause I know this cause I ripped them all probably in the three
Starting point is 00:19:02 to 400 disc range. And it, and it's out of control. It needs to go into a box somewhere. So this, which we have never listened to any of these CDs since they went into this box three homes ago. Three homes ago. Yeah, I just, I don't know. That's like a great unit of measurement for that. Like how many different homes has this box gone through without me opening it?
Starting point is 00:19:23 Exactly. Exactly. different homes has this box gone through without me opening it exactly we've got we've got some boxes out in our garage that i know are at least at that three home mark that's one of them he said matthew said basically it sends an id and plays that specific movie from plex or cody it's a cool idea or plex slash cody that that's a fun implementation but i'm with you seth i'm trying to purge stuff but i just have this sneaking suspicion that like my cd collection is going to be something my kids are going to be burdened with when i'm dead and gone i just can't seem to finally bring myself to get rid of it i don't know what it's going to take it's that and uh and and old hard, well, that's over here.
Starting point is 00:20:09 It's like, I just have this box with old hard drives that God only knows what's on them. And every time I look at them, I'm like, well, this thing could just disappear and I would never know any better. But yet I can't bring myself to physically take it to like a recycling place right and and they will they will data rot over time too uh so when you do eventually plug them in and your system goes it's not even gonna work there's yeah there's no data that i can recover from this and then yeah it's it's a moot point at that point but yeah um i've i've done that greg is mentioning using the drill press method to uh finally eliminate those i've done that before i actually had to do that for job um but i've done that 20 of them a week ago yep yep that's a good way to do it rip the band-aid
Starting point is 00:20:57 off yep well i've got two over there that my wife swears have files from her school like this is college days so that's probably 10 homes ago right so like he swears there's from her school. Like this is college days. So that's probably 10 homes ago. Right. So like swears there's files on there that I haven't, that we didn't like back up over time. Like there's a NAS drive in here with all those files on it, I think, but there's more stuff on there potentially that needs to go on there. And like, it's such an old, it's the IDE hard drives. It's not even anything I have a computer for these days. I'd have to get the little adapter for $30 and then spend time digging through all these files.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I just haven't done it. So, and it may not work because when you plug it in, they typically, I mean, it's a Mac store hard drive. I think that company's out of business because they made like garbage hard drives. Yeah. It's funny. Robert says Marie Kondo is having a heart attack right now.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Oh, absolutely. You don't want to come to put her in my garage. She would just, I think she would. Yeah, that'd be in the poor lady. The hard drives in the CDs most definitely do not bring me joy. That's a hard no. All right, well, all the links we've talked about here on this week's episode can be found in our show notes
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Starting point is 00:22:30 You can find out more about how to do that at hometech.fm slash live. All right, Seth, I understand you got a pick of the week this week. Oh, I do, I do. I posted this in the hub a little bit a while ago, so they have a preview. But Jason, I ran across this real
Starting point is 00:22:46 estate listing on on a facebook group and it it has one of the most beautiful homes i think i've ever seen um there is a amazing i don't know how to describe this this this is someone's man cave and i i'm i'm gonna pin this on a dealer i'm just gonna say this is a dealer that did this because no one in their right mind would have not let me count these one two three four five six seven eight times two 16 subwoofers they have dual tower well maybe even three towers per each channel of their surround sound so there's there's three surround sound speakers for each this is so epic there's three tvs mounted across the top of one large tv that has two center channels below it and then at the very top there's a center channel aimed down from the top of the center
Starting point is 00:23:35 i it's hard to describe this and it's all you can see the macintosh uh or mcintosh yeah and there's a whole drive rack behind all this mess i mean this is this is something great i know i'm glad they put in um they put in the acoustic panels i think that's going to help them a lot oh i see those i didn't even catch that that's funny interesting room yeah this somebody likes audio. I love the zoomed up picture you also, I think you included in here of the remote on the coffee table. Oh yeah. I think what happened there is like,
Starting point is 00:24:15 there was a coffee table full of remotes and even the real estate agent was like, no, no, we can't do this. Don't do it. We got to clean this up. And they just left like a random tv remote is what it looks like a samsung remote or something man this is crazy this reminds me of a project that i worked on once in my integration days out in santa monica was where the home was
Starting point is 00:24:37 and he had it wasn't anywhere near this extensive in terms of the audio but but he had four TVs. I think it was four, three or four TVs, big TVs in a single room, then a rack with a surround sound audio system. And we had to program it all through Savant, which was difficult at the time. I think Savant's come a long ways since then in terms of dealing with the more custom stuff like that. But back then, Savant was pretty boilerplate. Right. And we made it work. But yeah, he had the ability to have different channels playing on each TV and then decide which TV he wanted the sound to track to to play through his surround sound system.
Starting point is 00:25:20 And that was quite a bit of work to set up and really cool once it was done. I just, looking at this house, I'm reminded of that. He's got, like you said, four different TVs, an ungodly number of speakers here. So yeah, you have to wonder, how is he controlling all this? And how much does his wife loathe him for when she just wants to come in and watch the news how much does his neighbors loathe him for having and we are being a little uh we're assuming this is a male yeah i don't i don't know it's very well decorated i mean i mean it's it is the house looks great yeah and you can see in one of the pictures next to the dual eight foot drive racks that they have with there is a kitchen in this home.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I'm like putting up the quotes home air quotes. Yeah. The kitchen is like off to the side. So, I mean, there is a kitchen there. Nice looking kitchen with stainless stuff. I mean, you have to kind of walk around one of his, or whoever's this is like one of the three pairs of speakers that are this left channel, I guess, or that's your right channel, right surround channel before you can go into the speaker, into the kitchen. So, Oh, there's another TV in the kitchen. Wow. They've got TVs everywhere. It's a TV above the fridge. Awesome. Never miss
Starting point is 00:26:47 a beat. Literally. Love it. Might miss a heartbeat, but you're not going to miss any of the music. That's for sure. Subwoofers for sale and you get the house on the side. House free. House comes free. That's right. Good stuff. All right. Well, if you have any feedback, questions, comments, picks of the week, ideas for a show topic or guest, give us a shout. We'd love to hear from you. Our email address is feedback at hometech.fm
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Starting point is 00:28:30 I do have an update. I do have an update. It's not the update you want, Seth, but it is an update nonetheless. Robert did succeed in talking me out of the original plan of attack. Oh, no. However, I was able to return the version of the SSD that I bought from, what is it? Otherworld Computing? Yeah, MacSales. MacSales.com, I think is their URL.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Quick mention for them, great service. They made it really easy for me to return it. So I always appreciate when companies do things like that. So I wanted to just give them a shout for that. Yeah, they were really helpful return it. So I always appreciate when, when companies do things like that. So I wanted to just give them a shout for that. Yeah. They, they were really helpful with it. And I do think I'm going to go ahead and order the PCI. I mean, I'm either going to do the PCI version, which is an internal installation in the computer, but it's just far easier physically to install. You don't have to take the computer apart. Yeah. You just pop the cover and you kind of put it in there. I'm probably going to go that route. Worst case scenario, I might do the external route that Robert recommended, but yeah, blame Robert. He scared me.
Starting point is 00:29:37 He's like, dude, you don't take your computer apart. We get two steps forward and one step back on the show here. That's what it is i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it well now that this big project's over i'm sure you've got nothing left to do at work so yeah yeah that's how it goes you know it's next next time i'm just kind of sitting around twiddling my thumbs looking for something to do. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. No, it does need to get done. I, I'm tempting fate. I feel like I know the hard drive on this Mac mini is its days are numbered. You can just feel it, but it's like without that urgency, I just struggle. We all have things we procrastinate on, right? This is like, this is my kryptonite.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Yeah, yeah. I think you're tempting fate, but also I think you're missing out on enjoying that little computer that you use for our podcast and only our podcast. It will be, I swear to you, it will be a transformative thing
Starting point is 00:30:41 when you actually get it. I have no doubt. I have no doubt that it will. That is the problem is I only use this mac mini for podcasting and so i've got a great laptop that i use for work and everything else and yeah i'm telling you if i had to use this mac mini for my daily computer this hard drive would have been put in like probably a year and a half ago right right but well i i hate to say i'm i'm i'm almost in this in the same boat as you my work computer needs to go in for service right
Starting point is 00:31:12 and it's the battery which it's always plugged in here on the desk and i'm like i don't really care you know but right it's kind of like at the point where the battery i think it's swelling because if you set it on a desk, it kind of rocks around. Yeah, so that's not a good sign. It needs to go to service. And I've already got it all set up. It's just like I've got to be down for a couple of days because of COVID and everything. It's just like there's no turnaround instantly.
Starting point is 00:31:38 It takes three or four days. and I have a terabyte drive that I've been backing up to and making a bootable copy, just exactly what you should be doing right now. I have it sitting on my desk, but the problem is I should do this on Sunday and bring that thing in on Monday because that's going to be the fastest turnaround
Starting point is 00:32:03 for Apple's Depot, and I keep putting it off. So yeah, procrastination. Sunday comes and Sunday goes. I hear you. It's one of those things. But I'm going to get it done, Seth, sooner or later. Yeah, that's a good idea, Robert.
Starting point is 00:32:20 You can go buy a replacement computer from Apple. You can carbon copy cloner over to reload it. And then Apple has a very generous 14 day return period, which I have. I've actually used this method that you are outlining before. So I'm already guilty of the Apple rent program to repair and send back a computer and then get another one. 14 days. That's all you have. Anthony says not until it dies. It seems in response to my comment about, I will get it done eventually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:52 We'll see like living on the edge. It's going to be too late. Living on the edge here. All right, Seth. Well, I think that does it for this week. Short,
Starting point is 00:33:01 short episode. I am going to go eat some dinner, get the kids to bed and then sleep for like 10 hours. I, I swear you were about to say, go sit down and Mark and draw on a book. I thought you were going to say that, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:33:18 sleep sounds good. Or replace my hard drive. No, I, that's, that's actually something I would not recommend you do on little sleep. So get rested. Be rested for it.
Starting point is 00:33:27 You want to make sound decisions. Yeah. Follow instructions. Yeah, I don't think I'll be debasing any books tonight. All right. All right. Well, too tired for that. Get some rest, Jason.
Starting point is 00:33:40 All right, man. Have a good weekend. You too. We'll talk to you soon. We'll see you next week. All right. Take care.

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