HomeTech.fm - Episode 428 - Daddy is Home
Episode Date: March 27, 2023On this weeks show: Belkin doesn't Matter, Nanoleaf and SwitchBot do, Ring launches a new doorbell with a wider lens, Aqara launches a doorbell that can talk dirty, Home Assistant discloses a long ter...m vulnerability, a pick of the week from 1999, and project updates from the team!
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This is the Home Tech Podcast for March 24th, 2023 from Sarasota, Florida. I'm Seth Johnson.
From Lewis Center, Ohio. I'm TJ Huddleston.
And from Pickering, Ontario, I'm Gavin Campbell.
And welcome to the Home Tech Podcast, a podcast about all aspects of home technology, home automation, fun, crazy stuff.
Man, we've been off for a while.
I forget what we're supposed to talk about.
But that gives us a way to catch up on the news
because there's been a lot in the last, what, two weeks, I guess?
Yeah, we went through kind of a lull.
You know, there wasn't much coming out for a little while.
So it's good to see some new headlines.
And we have a lot of stuff to talk about.
I was on vacation.
I said, screw this. There's nothing to talk about in the home technology we have a lot of stuff to talk about. I was on vacation. I said, screw this.
There's nothing to talk about in the home technology space.
So I'm going to go on vacation, and I want to cruise, guys.
And I don't know if you can tell, I'm kind of sick.
As you do after you get off a cruise.
Might have caught something on the cruise.
I don't know.
Just some nose decongestion, congestion, whatever.
I don't know. It's all coming out now, congestion, whatever. I don't know. It's all
coming out now. So it's lovely. It's very lovely. It's a, it's been a fun, it was a fun two weeks
though. Cause we were, we were on a boat for 12 nights. Yeah. 12 nights, transatlantic.
And they basically start in Miami and stop in Barcelona. And then you fly back. So it was just,
just kind of a whirlwind. I got off a plane
yesterday at four o'clock or whatever and drove back. That's pretty interesting. I've never been
on a boat for more than a couple hours. I've never slept on a boat or anything like that.
So I can't imagine what that's like. It's, it's like sleep. I mean, they're big,
they're big boats now. So it's, yeah, it's like a whole city kind of thing going on. Yeah.
I got to play, you know, bring the wi-fi thing with me
the what's it called the travel router with me and and hook it up now when i left last last time
i didn't edit the show in time i did download all the files no i didn't download all the files
so um gavin thanks thanks for your 1.2 gigabyte download by by the way, on the Ocean Wi-Fi.
How do you have a 1.2 gigabyte audio file?
I didn't realize you would be not using fiber for this.
I thought you got the new fiber and everything.
I was sending you bigger files.
C-fiber.
Yeah, there was absolutely no fiber on the Ocean's network.
I don't know what it was using, but it definitely had issues.
How long was it?
I don't know.
You know why?
Because I just gave up.
I hit cancel on that download, and I just downloaded the one that was cut for the show
on this thing, and that's what everybody got was the backup audio version, which was not,
I think it was like 500 megabytes or something.
It was something a lot smaller.
I think I also recall i'm recording in
high quality too you said you wanted the best quality possible i don't think seth ever said
that no i i said i said you know mono is fine and um i don't need stereo audio okay well this week
it's mono 192 kilobits or whatever you're recording and i don't need that much and i don't need i
don't need the leading i don't know hour and a half of of dead air before the show that we're just chatting it up whoa dead air i
mean that's good that's good content that you're just cutting out yeah that's good i mean it's
that locker room talk is great content cut and it's it's put on the uh the locker room no it's
put on the ocean floor at this point so so i'm recording at 48 000 kilohertz 32 bit uh mono is that good enough for you that's perfect perfectly fine i
guess 32 bits kind of high but you know it'll work 40 48 is fine all right cool denying a
skavin silky smooth voice yeah i'm at 500 i'm at 500 meg already just for you.
We just started the show.
Two minutes into the show.
Well, that's all right.
He's back on land now, so it's okay.
You can download all the files.
Yeah, yeah.
I've got the fiber connection,
and if I go reboot my router and not my computer,
I'm sure it'll be fine.
But refusing to reboot my computer.
I downloaded it, the files. i put them on my ipad i was able to edit on my ipad a lot faster than anything i just kind of like
toodle around and then i uploaded everything from uh from from the ocean so the last show
was actually uh you know somewhere about like three or four hundred miles south of bermuda
i uploaded it so it's kind of cool that's nice nice we're just traveling the world you know
yeah it yeah not on
the show we could have recorded from from the boat i guess but that would have been fun there
wasn't many places that were quiet on there we had some some rough seas so like the seas were
four meters four meters i guess that's you know like the wave height or yeah yeah like 15 20 feet
i was like because i don't know much about seas but i feel like they're higher than four meters uh i mean it seemed big enough to me like it was moving this giant boat that we
were on so anyway it was fun i recommend it uh aside from the sickness that you're inevitably
yeah my mom's going on a cruise in like a week i'm like you're definitely getting sick she's like
no i'll be fine i was like i don't think so i would assume at this point you
could just automatically assume you're gonna get sick on a cruise yeah 12 12 nights will get you
there i don't know like if you're only there like three four nights i'd recommend it like they don't
it doesn't have time to catch you until you're off but there were seven we set like a world record
there were like over 7 000 people that were on the boat. So it was a very large boat. Oh, wow. Jeez. Yeah. It
was the most people that have ever crossed the Atlantic on a single ship. Didn't know that going
into it. I was just like, hey, cheap, cheap tickets sound fun. And we've got spring break
to kill. So let's do it. And then it wasn't cheap. You know, the drinks cost a lot of money.
Yeah. They always get you with the drinks. You got to buy the drink package. If even the drink
package is pretty expensive. I mean, it's not like the drink package is cheap,
but it is the better deal if you're going to drink a lot.
You got to drink a lot to meet those drink packages.
Yeah.
That's why some people go on cruises.
They go to drink, you know?
Yep.
No, I went to eat.
Like your food vacation things.
Yeah.
I ate very well on a cruise.
The food is basically free.
It's decent food most of the time.
I noticed towards the end we're not, like, getting the freshest of bread
and berries, like strawberries and blueberries were nowhere to be found.
Like, we could not find them anywhere.
But guess what?
Ice cream, plentiful.
So, yeah.
What are you going to do?
That's good.
That's what matters, you know.
Ice cream makes the world go round.
Good ice cream, too.
So, we'll recommend.
All right.
Well, we do have, after being off for two weeks, I guess,
we do have a couple of home tech headlines.
So what do you say we jump into them?
Let's do it.
All right.
I actually saw this news from the high seas, I guess.
So Wemo has paused development of Matter smart home devices
in an email exchange with Jin Wei,
vice president of global communications and corporate development at Belkin.
She confirmed with, I guess, The Verge over there that the company is convinced that, quote,
Matter will have a significant positive impact on the smart home industry.
It, meaning Belkin or Wemo, has decided to take a big step back, regroup, and rethink its approach to the
smart home. We went on to explain that Wemo will bring new Matter products to market when it can
find a way to differentiate them from stuff that's coming onto the market. But it seems like Wemo is
pulling way back and not going to matter anymore, I guess. Gavin, I'm going to you first
because you say they were going to screw it up.
Are they screwing up?
And here we go.
This is step one.
No, this is, I think, something we mentioned
way in the beginning,
that products are going to have to find ways
to stand out from the crowd once we go to this way.
If we more influence matter,
do we really need their app anymore you
know like stuff like that like a lot of stuff gets thrown out i i'm you know i'm just happy
they are taking a step back and they didn't say no we're not going to support matter they're just
going to rethink it and figure out how they can um i guess monetize it or create their little
ecosystem but i i predict more companies are going to be like this, you know, um,
there's just no money in it.
Just when you,
unless you have your own little ecosystem.
Pow,
right in the kisser,
just knocking them out right now,
you know,
yeah,
matter.
It's,
it's not really,
not really getting there,
but time will tell.
I mean,
I know there's certain people that listen to the show and they have high hope in matter,
but I'm still in the,
uh, still on the opposite side of
the fence. I mean, Matter is more for these manufacturers like Wemo and everything. So
they can, instead of having to develop for both HomeKit, Amazon, Google, and everybody,
they can at least get the onboarding centralized and put into place. But I don't know, like,
it doesn't seem like it's something
you have to do as a company like you can but i mean what is we will say they're going to
differentiate themselves like well what do you have to differentiate like you have a smart blog
right like yeah i mean my look my thing is right is that like the onboarding process and like the
adding devices to another ecosystem is 100 important important. I don't think anybody's arguing
that. But I think at this point, like we just need more from smart home devices, we need them to just
work. And we need them to work with all of the features. I mean, it just if if no, if you can't
use all the features in a product right away, with that new standard, a lot of people are just not
going to care about it. And they're going to use the default app. Yeah, I, I guess. I mean, it, it just doesn't seem like if we want
to differentiate their products, well, it's like, well, here's a smart outlet. It turns on and off.
You really don't need the WeMo app. So it's not going to differentiate. It's like, there's nothing
special about it. Right? Like, so there's, there's nothing else that smart outlet's gonna do for you outside
of the matter app so just make it and then shut up i guess like yeah if you want to make your
product differentiate like make it do something else like we're going to talk about a smart outlet
here um i guess we'll talk about it next but like it does a whole lot more and potentially more
depending on what accessories you pair with it but, that's one way to make your product stand out,
not like backing away from like an industry led and,
and,
and,
and onboarding solution.
Like,
I don't know,
like this is what it was made to,
made to prevent.
We've all been saying,
oh,
it's not really going to matter.
I guess it doesn't like,
does I,
is Wemo like a big enough player
to even like, does it matter if they leave this kind of thing and don't support it?
I feel like Wemo is probably one of the bigger DIY brands. I don't know how popular they are
compared to others, but I feel like Wemo is one of the more recommended ones for like some basic
automation stuff. I really, so when I first started i i went with all webos and
i had a whole bunch of my house and you know when you had the first two in the house they
worked pretty good but after when i started getting 10 14 yeah you started seeing lag and
then they're on your wi-fi you know like they're just bogging down your wi-fi you know because
they're doing a lot of broadcasting um from switch. Then they do their auto updates.
You know, they get that.
I just, I had to rip them all out and I got rid of them.
It was a few months I had them.
So, I mean, maybe that's their play.
Make some more reliable products and then they'll differentiate those from the Amateur stuff that's all buggy.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Well, yeah.
I mean, that's what companies are going to do, right? In order to differentiate yourself from
everybody else that makes the same plug that's compatible with the same products,
you're going to have to add extra features to it that are not going to work within those other
ecosystems. They're only going to work within your own. Yeah. So I get the value of like being able to add any kind of outlet you want to your ecosystem.
But like if you can't do like power reading and all that good stuff that Matter doesn't support right now,
then you're probably just going to default to the regular Wemo app and use it off Wi-Fi and all that good stuff.
Because why maintain two separate things at that point?
Unless it's like Alexa integrating with it or something i guess
we're seeing a ton of uh of things pop up in the chat about um uh wemo is basically not working
and dropping off so not a big player according to ty yeah uh they just drop off for no reason
according to i am canadian so like yeah that is yeah they're wi-fi yeah that's i mean that's what
and that's i have the Wemo devices, too.
And I had issues, a lot of issues with them, like these issues, Wi-Fi related.
I'm like, these are garbage.
They don't work, you know.
And then I did.
I ended up hooking up my the Ruckus system at the house.
No issues whatsoever.
I haven't tried them because I usually use them seasonally, like around Christmas time.
So I have them on the I have the Netgear stuff on right now.
I haven't tried them with these, but they've been extremely solid with the...
Extremely solid with the Ruckus gear and the Ruckus network I had set up.
So I don't know.
Like, could just be incompatibilities with certain Wi-Fi features that get turned on, that kind of thing. So I don't know like could just be incompatibilities with with certain wi-fi features that get turned on that kind of thing so i don't know usually fixed with a reboot that's
what i was laughing at because i'm refusing to reboot this computer i don't care what problems
we have gavin it's not set hasn't rebooted his computer in at least six years so he's holding
off it's a mac it doesn't need to reboot it doesn't get viruses either no exactly exactly all right well let's talk about that that
new the new product here we've got a um a new uh product from we got a new product from a u.s
company called intecular assuming not launching its first matter compatible smart wall outlet
what's different about this one is uh you can kind of like put some extra
extras with it that kind of like help define what you want that product to do. So like the face
plate, each face plate option gives you a different features and that kind of thing,
depending on what you want it to serve in the house, right? So they've got what's called an Invisideco Air,
and it's got an air quality monitor, LED indicators.
You kind of look over and kind of see how the air quality is in the room
just at a glance with it.
Includes sensors for temperature, humidity, CO2, and VOCs.
Invisideco Light, it's also a trim plate.
It can work in tandem with the existing smart lights
to adjust the brightness,
depending on the ambient lighting,
as well as contain a small nightlight that turns on.
It's basically on the bottom of the faceplate.
And then they have a motion one,
built-in motion sensor,
D-NEX move and trigger automations,
that kind of thing.
So it's all based around like just basically
a core smart switch,
but then you put smart plates on. And that's really cool. All matter compatible.
Um, the pricing was up there. Uh, it's like a hundred bucks a pop, right? And I guess you can
get all three for one 79. So that's, I mean, that might help, but man, um, kind of expensive,
uh, to kind of like pair all this stuff up. I, I, I do like it. It seems like a pretty,
pretty cool idea. TJ, what do you think about this? Yeah. I do like it. It seems like a pretty cool idea.
TJ, what do you think about this?
Yeah, I mean, honestly, it's a cool idea
because, you know, as we were talking about before the show,
you could customize it for the different areas of the house, right?
So in the hallway, you might want like a little motion light.
In the bathroom or in the kitchen,
you might want the air quality sensor.
So that way you can know when Gavin's using the restroom.
And you just change out the faceplate. So you buy buy the same outlet you put a new face plate on it and bam you're you're good to go so i can see this being a thing the price is a little odd though
you know a lot of people have problems spending a hundred dollars on a light switch or like 70
dollars or whatever 60 dollars is for the lutron casado switch a lot of people grab their chest
like they're having a heart attack uh so 100 for an outlet is kind of a tough sell to me. But I guess if it's doing all
these extra things, it might be worth it. Not Wi-Fi either. So it'll work. Unlike Wemo.
Yeah. Is it Thread? I guess it works over Thread, right?
Is it Matter? Whatever. It's Matter compatible. So I don't know.
Yeah. The price on this is a tough swallow,
especially if you're going to want more than one of them.
You know, it reminds me of,
you ever see those little face plates
that you can replace to have the light built into it?
It kind of like slides over your existing outlet
and makes contact with the power there
and that's how it gets powered.
It reminds me of that.
And even if they just sold that
and made something like that and sold it,
it would be kind of cool, right?
That would be a much easier install, right? But I like to see innovation in this space, though.
The one thing I just don't like is why don't they just have one plate that has all three of these things in it?
You know, like, why do I have to switch up the plates? I want one with everything, you know?
Well, and that's kind of what I was thinking. Right.'re not i mean the one is kind of advanced that's doing the the air quality sensor and stuff
the other one's just like a motion and a light sensor for the separate one so like they could
totally do it all three it's probably just a cost thing though they'd probably have to charge like
200 for this outlet if they were to build all of it so they just give you the option to customize
it yeah there was there was a post on um slash our home automation
right or r slash home automation whatever you want to say um the other day about this and it was it
was some kind of like little display like a little like beautifully made and crafted display i tried
i thought i wrote it down it was it was i ran across it while i was on the cruise and um i'll
have to go back and see if i can find it but But it had like a e-ink display, kind of like a little like heads up sensor data runs on
a little battery, um, had been really like, been like this project, you know, passion
project.
It was like, they were charging $129 for it and people were just losing their mind.
It was like, I can get this for like $4 on Alibaba.
And it's like,
yeah, but it's what? Like, oh man, like tough crowd here.
Yeah. The home automation separate, it's a terrible judge for this kind of product just
because it's mainly made up of DIY people and they're heavily focused on like making their
own stuff. So like, you know, there's like a current top post right now.
And it's like a minimalistic door sensor.
But it is quite large and way more complex than like a regular door sensor.
And Paul in the chat mentioned Swidget.
I think it's called Swidget.
Yeah, it reminds me of that.
That was a while ago.
It's been a number of years since they came out.
But they had that outlet with the middle that you can pull out and put other modules into it and that i when i first saw that i thought that
was really cool because they had a lot of modules that you could flip around yeah i think this whole
idea is pretty good and you know it allows you to kind of cut down on the waste a little bit
because you can just put what you want where but they got to work on the pricing for it you know if this was in the 50 to like 75 range i feel like people would buy this up
but a hundred dollars it puts it way outside the budget for a lot of people i think i mean
for a smart switch a hundred dollars for a smart switch i like it in in wall outlet what do those
usually run i want to say they're around that price like 40 bucks or something so it's on the
high side there so i mean like i don't think when you break it down it's not that bad but it's just
it's one device that you're gonna have to buy how many for and that's what people are looking at
like if you just need one a hundred dollars is not bad but if you need like a dozen
that's twelve hundred dollars just on outlets and where before you would spend that you would
spend like twenty dollars an outlet or something like that you know for a normal thing and obviously you're getting some extra sensors
and all that good stuff but it's just a big jump right right and i do like that it's using like an
existing thing that exists in your house like you're not cutting a new hole in the wall or
anything like that although like there are certain cases where I would like worry
about like, well, like a motion sensor, you know, somebody comes in and puts a piece of furniture
in front of this outlet because, you know, why would you want to see an outlet on your wall?
Like, uh, then it's no, it's useless. You know, it's not a very good motion sensor at that point.
Ambient light, same thing. Like somebody leans something up against the wall and like, it's,
well, now the lights are on full bright and I don't know why um it's kind of weird it's kind of a weird place to put it i
guess i don't know it seems like this would work really well on like a paddle dimmer or you know
like a decor dimmer like it'd be great to have that instead of an outlet um that makes sense
maybe they're aiming for like newer houses because i know if you have like an older house outlets were kind of like a rare thing in a lot of spots, but in new houses,
they're like every six feet or something. So, I mean, it's there, there's a ton of unused outlets,
every single house that I go into now. So maybe like they're aiming for that kind of thing.
I mean, my house have one on each wall if I'm lucky. Yeah. And newer houses,
there would be two on each wall. So yeah. Yeah.
Well, it is an interesting thing.
I don't think, and you don't need one on every one.
That's what I'm saying.
Like you could just use on one on the one that's, that's, that makes sense for whatever you want to do in that room.
And if, but I'm thinking like to get all of that sensor data for their particular room,
like you might not want to be reading Ambilight from an outlet location.
Like I think the better location would definitely be the smart switch location up higher.
And this may not work very well for that.
But I don't know.
Great idea.
Matter compatible.
Good luck to these guys.
It's pretty cool.
So I guess let's talk about Toronto Toronto based smart home, smart light company,
Nanoleaf. And I wonder who put this into our show notes. Uh, they're rolling out three new
matter compatible lights as part of its essentials lines, the A19 BR30 bulbs and a new light strip
are the first ever matter smart lighting, uh, smart lighting available on the market,
uh, says Nanoleaf. Uh. The lights work with matter over thread
for seamless setup and control
and offer white and RGB lighting.
The Nanoleaf's matter-enabled lights
will open for pre-order on March 22nd
on the company's website.
The A19 smart bulb and light strip
will be globally available on the website
for prices ranging from $19.99 to $49.99.
And the BR30 will start being available April on 2023.
And other new bulbs like the GU10 and a recessed downlight
coming later this year.
Also, in the story, Nanoleaf also said,
existing modular lighting panels, light bars, including shapes, elements, canvas lines will receive an over-the-air update later this year to make them compatible with Matter.
So unlike Wemo, Nanoleaf is basically all in and pushing out Matter to all their products.
Pretty cool.
I didn't know they were a Canadian company.
I just threw this on there.
But because they are a Canadian company, feel free to buy them based on there you know like but because they are canadian company
feel free to buy them based on promises they're telling the truth they won't let you down they
when they say coming later this year they're gonna bring it later this year don't worry about it
they're canadian but no this is good to see i've been trying to get my hands on a matter
a thread-based matter device i don't want a wi-fi based one but there are a couple thread
based ones out there but i can't get a hold of one so this may be the first one i order yeah the
nano leaf stuff looks pretty cool but it's way too expensive for what i want to spend on lighting
but a lot of the products do look cool that you can kind of add to them and all that good stuff so
i definitely see the use case for maybe one day i'll be rich enough to buy some. Yep. Yep. Well, uh, let's, let's, let's talk about
the stuff we can afford to buy TJ. Um, uh, switch switch, but oddly enough, another Canadian
company, no, they're not, they're based in like Delaware or something. Uh, a smart home company,
switch bot is introducing a new matter enabled hub. Uh, the $69 switch bot hub two arrives in
March and we'll work with all existing
and new SwitchBot Bluetooth devices,
enable those devices that are supported
by the new smart home standard to work with Matter.
So that's pretty cool.
TJ, you were saying this is a really cool product
and that you liked it, especially for $69.
Nice.
Nice.
It is substantially more expensive
than the two SwitchBot Hubs that I have right now. I think they were like $25 or $69. Nice. Nice. It is substantially more expensive than the two SwitchBot hubs that I have
right now. I think they were like $25 or $30. So this is more than double the price. But you get
some nice added features. You get the temperature and humidity. It's got a little screen on there.
So I mean, it seems like a worthwhile upgrade if you care about that stuff. But it is significantly
more. And Ty is a bing the
bell there we go thank you ty for reminding me uh new hub new hub time uh yeah i had to dig it out
from my desk here but pretty pretty cool my uh all my all my switch spot stuff has worked all right
um both systems so i have one system at the house that controls a uh lock and then i have a system at the
office that controls my garage door via one of the little push button things and both of them
i've had to reset one time because they've just dropped the wi-fi connection for some strange
reason and they wouldn't work again but after i've reset them they've been fine knock on wood there
um so yeah i mean not not terrible products for the price.
So I'm not hating.
SwitchBot's one of those companies.
I like what they do.
I like what their price are.
I just can't get over the hump, like the aesthetics of their products.
You know, like, I don't know.
I really like everything they do.
I like the company.
It's just the aesthetics of their products.
But, yeah, it's good to see that they're getting on the matter train you know um i i might grab that hub because i picked up a switchbot
device the other day to do some testing with and if it but i haven't integrated directly with um
home assistant so you know i might not need the hub in that case are you just using a little button
pusher yeah a little button pusher you know yeah yeah that's nice because you can pair it directly to home assistant with bluetooth yeah
i can automate you cannot do that with the lock or anything else unfortunately
yeah i'm trying to do some other things with it and but it's just not powerful enough i'm finding
the motor inside but you know it's it's a cool little device like when you think about what it
does and how they did it it's really cool so I might buy a coffee maker just to put the button on it.
There you go.
Oh,
I,
I thought this was going to be for flushing the toilet.
I thought that was where you're going with it.
I'm like,
Oh,
I tried.
It's just not powerful.
Stronger motor in there.
It's a,
the flush that toilet.
Yeah.
The problem is Gavin needs the flush several times.
It's just,
it's not up for the repeated actions.
It's the levers and pulleys, my friend.
It's the power of the fulcrum.
Mine at the office
is double-sided
taped and silicone to my
remote garage door controller
so I can open it from anywhere
that I have internet and it works
great. It looks like butt, but
it works great.
My neighbor came over the other day and he was like how did you open the garage door when you were uh when you're on
the phone with your delivery person so i like walked him over to the button that's like hanging
off my shelving unit i was like this right here this piece of magic piece of work here
and he was like oh yeah it totally makes sense
beautiful beautiful And he was like, oh, yeah, it totally makes sense.
Beautiful, beautiful.
All right, well, Ring has announced a new battery doorbell plus. It's the first battery-powered unit with 150 by 150 degree field of vision and 1536p video.
No idea why they stopped at 1536, but there it is. It says the new greatly increased view of the vertical space will make it easier to get a head-to-toe view of your visitors,
as well as visibility when the driver leaves a box up at the door on the floor.
The Ring Battery Doorbell Plus is available pre-order today for $180, with shipping expected begin in on April 5th um I do like I do like this
this trend where we're getting you know better video but also getting like a wider view angle
especially to see like what is down like down being delivered like seeing people drop stuff
off and that kind of thing it's very useful like I think when all these video doorbells came out
it was like well you want to see his at your your door. But as it turned out, like the camera lens, basically,
you can't see your floor mat. You can't see your door unless it's positioned, you know,
just so incorrectly. And turns out we've been getting a lot more deliveries, you know,
especially through the pandemic. And you couldn't see when people were, what people were delivering.
So I think it's really cool to see like
solutions start to finally come out around this this particular feature and the one thing i have
to say about ring is they have some great marketing because my mom actually emailed me asking me about
this and i'm like i don't know where she heard about this or how she heard about this but she
was like hey there's a new ring doorbell did you know and i had to talk her down off the ledge because she already has one she already has one she doesn't need
to upgrade it i just outfitted her with three ring devices she doesn't need another one but
i guess that was her gateway drug into a home automation at that point right yeah i can't
wait you installed that old stuff when you knew this stuff was coming out she wants the latest and greatest Gavin just give it to her oh geez like don't get me started but it's cool that they went with the
single lens instead of the the dual um camera setups that I've been seeing some people do
you know where they have one camera looking down and one camera looking out I like that they kept
it in one frame and uh you know like it it'll probably roll out to their other cameras
eventually yeah i don't i i wish it was in the ring pro because i like using the slimmer model
i think it just looks better more aesthetically pleasing um yeah come to that i'm sure they'll
get it eventually yeah i don't see why they couldn't but that kind of thing usually filters
through the line over time like they they each each one of their products has a different
time that it
kind of like starts and gets rotated out and uh we tend to see like the the the battery stuff
like get i don't know like it seems like the battery like the lower end bat or the mid-level
battery stuff gets the gets the new tech first um and then the pro stuff starts getting updated so
i don't know hopefully we'll see this kind of stuff put on there too. I think the pro one did just get updated with like higher resolution.
Yeah, it did, but not the super sweet camera. I mean, come on. Yep.
Now I like, I like ring just because a lot of their stuff is battery powered or, you know,
wired powered. So that's always convenient. You know, most of the time when I'm installing it,
I'm wiring them. Uh, but there's a lot of houses in America that do not have wiring at the doorbell.
Or maybe there was a renovation and somebody got rid of the wiring or whatever reason there is.
So having the battery as an option is great.
It's definitely helpful.
And Ring seems to, I mean, besides all their faults and getting hacked.
I don't know.
Do you guys see the story where they got hacked?
And it's like, maybe it's a story.
Maybe it's not. I haven't heard anything since it came out. They haven't acknowledged that they getting hacked. I don't know. Do you guys see the story where they got hacked? And it's like, maybe it's a story, maybe it's not. I haven't heard anything since it came out. They
haven't acknowledged that they got hacked. So I don't, I don't think they actually did.
They covered up the story.
Yeah. I mean, I think, I think Amazon would, would, or I would hope that they,
it would probably be a bigger story if they covered it up, but, um, I would hope that they
have the disclosure and say, oh yeah, we got hacked. But somebody was saying that it was one of their partners or something that had API access.
They got hacked.
It's always somebody else.
It wasn't me.
I can tell you that.
Like, I don't think I was me.
It's like a Spider-Man meme pointing at each other.
Exactly.
You, you.
Yeah, not me.
It wasn't me.
Paul Ellis in the chat saying, I imagine the pro line sells way less
than since the beat battery is easier to retro. I would assume so. Cause a lot of homeowners don't
want to touch wiring. No, no, absolutely. No. If you can, if you can get it put up there and just
take it down and charge it once or twice, once a month or something like that. Like, yeah,
definitely. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of houses i go to every day and i would say
10 to 20 of them you know if i had to take a guess had like a video uh a battery powered
video doorbell installed right next to their doorbell and it's always it's always like the
first thing i offer like no matter what i'm there for i'm like you know we could just remove the
need for the battery right like we can just install it like half the time they want to do
it and half the time they're want to do it and half the time
they're just like yeah it works i don't really care that's yeah no i get it i get it um i mean
kind of like bring this one up to a car i actually came out with a smart video doorbell g4 uh looks
pretty decent i mean you're definitely not going to miss the button to ring the doorbell on this thing like this ain't no
doorbird it's your daddy's doorbird no uh it's got a bunch of neat things 1080p video kind of
lower resolution sensor 162 degree wide angle lens um indoor chime repeaters included which is nice
um seven days of free cloud storage got got SD local storage for recording. So
you can manage that stuff local. It's got dual power options for the outdoor unit as well. So
you can, again, power it with a battery pack for up to four months, or you can use the AC
DC transformer inside and power it over wire. Local facial recognition.
I don't know how you do fecal recognition on your doorbell,
but whatever.
I don't think I want that.
Is that a cat or a dog?
This is the mailman.
And then, yeah, it doesn't look terrible.
Actually, it's big,
but it's got a big giant doorbell button but other than that doesn't look bad no
i'd go for it i mean it is like uh for size reference it's about three quarters of an inch
wider than the video doorbell pro from ring um so probably not gonna fit in a lot of spots that i
can install a video doorbell on um but it does not look bad right Right. It comes with a door chime in the box, which is pretty convenient.
I can't really tell what the little thing is on the right-hand side.
It's on the edge past the camera.
It kind of looks like a fingerprint sensor from the images,
but it could also be anything else, I guess.
I think it's a speaker.
Is it a speaker?
Could it be a speaker?
I think it's a button.
Possibly.
Yeah, it looks like a button or like a cover, like a SIM card cover.
Oh, it could be that too.
So I was thinking it might be like an SD card,
but that seems like an awful security idea to put an SD card on the outside.
Yeah.
But I don't see like an installation manual or anything,
so I can't really tell what it is.
No, and the little like expando view doesn't really show it.
It shows the speaker, but it's on the other side of the exploda view that they have on here.
Man, this thing could be tiny if they just removed the battery, the six-pack battery.
If you scroll down the page.
Yeah, right.
It's the width of the battery pack, like 6A batteries that they put in this thing.
They need that, though, for the four months of battery life it can have i guess so yeah um but a good idea uh say anything about the price on it
uh 120 on amazon you can buy it right now yeah well i would say definitely worth it
yeah definitely worth 120 yeah i'd be interested to see how well it works and i mean i mean this is the best feature i don't know why
ring hasn't implemented this yet but you can actually change your voice with it so as you
talk over the video doorbell you can be a robot uh or the options it gives you in the description
is to protect privacy the g4 is able to change your voice to one of four options such as uncle robot etc uncle
do you do you ask to record my uncle so that way you can sound like my uncle
is this somebody else's whose uncle is this it's like that creepy old man on family guy
what are you boys doing
this looks like this looks like a nice unit though i would i would buy this if i
needed a big video doorbell um it's 150 canadian in the amazon store so you know
it's a good price though when you think about how much your others cost this is not a bad price
and for what you get it's pretty good i like the flexibility with the batteries or or you can have
it powered in the the SD card.
I mean, that's big having local storage.
Up to 512 gigs.
I mean, think of how many days of recording.
It does local streaming to, you know, your Google or your matamate devices.
You know, if you trigger it through there.
I was trying to figure out if it supported like RTSP or streaming or anything like that.
So we can hook it up to like other NVRs,
but there's no information on that.
So I have highly doubt it.
Yeah, it would be nice if it like constantly stream,
like you could hook it up like that if it constantly stream.
Well, yeah, yeah.
If you hooked it up powered, right?
And then you could stream constantly,
that would be fine, right?
Yeah, yeah.
You can customize the ringtones as well.
I love this page already.
This example says, you know, personalized custom ringtones.
A little caption above the video doorbell says,
Tom is not home.
Please come back tomorrow.
And then next to it has a picture of the chime,
and it says, Daddy is home.
Who designed this web page for this video doorbell?
It's an awesome website like i love the design you know they make it look like the coolest doorbell out there that job well done and you can get it in black or shadow gray it's too distinct
too distinctly different colors like seriously like a little bit more
black and shadow gray yeah but it has a matching chime too yeah i mean that's cool i like that it
comes with a chime you know in the box that's a good feature and if it can announce daddy's
home every time i come home i might just buy this now it has to say it just right though
i think i'm gonna put that in my home assistant to announce it every time i come home and the
wife's watching tv if wife is home announce this it does it by by facial recognition too so
daddy's home
oh man i'm glad we found our show title i was worried about it but Daddy's home Oh man
I'm glad we found our show title
I was worried about it but no more
We always find something good
Yeah alright
Well
Moving on here to our
Oh man moving on to our last
Security
Related topic
Home assistant Has announced a security issue security-related topic.
Home Assistant has announced a security issue that impacts installations using the Home Assistant Supervisor.
A fix for this security issue has been rolled out
to all affected Home Assistant users
by the Supervisor Auto Update System,
and the issue is no longer present.
The Supervisor is basically an application
that runs on some installations
and is responsible for system management.
The issue allowed an attacker
to remotely bypass authentication
to interact directly with the supervisor API,
basically giving them access to install
home assistant updates, manage add-ons, and backups.
Analysts show that this issue has been present in Home Assistant
since the introduction of the supervisor in 2017.
It's been out there for quite a while.
Oh, geez.
You can verify you've received the update on the Home Assistant page
and verify you're running Supervisor 2023.03.1 or later.
So that sounds like a pretty major thing.
Get out there and update your home assistant supervisor thing and get it updated.
Yeah.
And, you know, like this article just came out and there's already or laters out there.
I think I've updated it three times since.
That's the thing about home assistant.
There's multiple updates every week.
So get to the Ornators now.
Yeah, I'm trying to see what the...
I can't really tell what the percent...
They said there was like 33% have already been updated.
But I don't really know of the...
They have these graphs that you can kind of go in
and kind of tweak things around,
but I don't know what it is.
It seems like...
So the supervisor is the one that you can basically really get in get in there and tweak right that's the one that had that's
the one you were making me run right it's not the one that you can just run on the raspberry pi or
something right yeah i think the supervisor is the one that's uh involved when you uh set it up as a
vm yeah yeah it gets set up there so it handles updating and stuff like that so and i always
encourage people if you're going to set up home assistant throw it in a vm it's so much easier yeah than a docker or anything else yeah it that's
that's how i i mean i have it running it's probably not updated but uh maybe i should i don't know
it's not really exposed to the internet or anything so i guess it's not that big of a deal
um so go update update updates are good it looks like people like their updates with Home Assistant.
Man, they have been busy with updates.
Jeez Louise.
Well, luckily this one, you don't have to update.
It just does it for you.
So yeah, there you go.
That's nice.
All the links and topics we discussed tonight can be found on our show notes over at
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Nothing in the mailbag this week, but we do have a pick of the week.
Thanks to Gavin.
Gavin.
I think Gavin put this in here.
It's a look back at Microsoft's 1999 smart home and what it got wrong.
And right.
Cool video.
It kind of like went over most of the like voice assistant stuff and like
daddy comes home.
It recognizes you at the door.
So I don't know.
It's in like little pop ups on the in the corner of the TV of who is, you know, at the door and that kind of thing.
A lot of right stuff here. It was actually interesting to watch because it was from one ninety nine, I believe.
Right. So, yeah, here we are many years later
and they were predicting what the future the future would be like and they were pretty good
with their predictions i mean they were limited by the technology they had like it didn't look
as pretty as it does today but i wish they probably didn't um predict like how many walled
gardens we'd be facing you know in in this day and age but a lot of stuff they do has become a
norm to a lot of people today what do you mean it just doesn't the interfaces they're showing don't
look any different than windows most of the time they look all right it's exactly like windows 11
what are you talking about yeah but they have to reboot more often to fix problems. Same Internet Explorer icon.
Geez.
Yeah.
A lot of this stuff is really cool, but a lot of people don't realize that automation has kind of been a thing for several decades at this point.
So a lot of this stuff was already happening.
It just didn't happen for the average consumer, right?
Whereas now you can go out and buy a $ you know, $120 video doorbell that does
facial recognition and stuff like that. Back then they were doing stuff similar, but they weren't
doing anything, you know, as cheap as they were now and, and nowhere near as clean looking.
Right, right. I mean, the example that they have where it has the, the TV and the picture and
picture in the corner with the person, you know, standing there, it's another camera looking at the
front door, um, you know, as they've come up and run, rung the physical doorbell because there didn't, you
know, they didn't have video doorbells back then. Why would they even conceive of having a camera
right at the doorbell? But yeah, it, it, it makes sense. A lot of this looks like, I don't know,
you guys remember like those interface for, oh man, I forget life life richard is going to come on the thing and
yell at me uh life something it was a microsoft's like media management thing it looked really cool
but a lot of it kind of looks like the beginning of that um there's especially what they're showing
the tv life size life no that's a conference room room thing it was it was something with an l i
don't remember he's yelling at the radio right now.
Yeah, he will be.
He will be.
Don't worry.
I don't really have much of a brain tonight because I'm still in travel mode.
So forgive me there at least.
But I can see the interface in my head.
I know I installed it on a bunch of Windows computer and used like a IP control into like a keyboard, a little
program that accepted commands from a key and converted them into keyboard commands
because you had to run it from your keyboard, which was kind of awful.
You had to remote with a keyboard on it.
It was the dumbest thing ever.
That would have been that would have been price per button database.
Like we should go back and look at what those cost.
We don't want to break it yeah you you got a full full keyboard on the back of the remote and you could type on your tv
how cool is that anyway i had a cool video a little nostalgic to go back and look what was
going on in 1999 and people having that computer like a literal computer sitting on their their
computer in their kitchen that was funny they
actually had a full computer it was a crt monitor yeah sitting on there i don't have that kind of
counter space to put a computer on my god but could you imagine just you know coming home and
saying honey i have a new computer for the kitchen and then up right there what she's gonna say
like uh yeah it wouldn't fly you can take that out of here
daddy's not home for the for the time though that monitor is pretty thin you know
i was still rocking a very thick monitor back then so yeah they have some lcd's in this video
so like the early plasma lcd screens that they're showing off but i remember around that time the
monitors got so big
and so deep that i barely had room on my desk for the keyboard right because the monitors were right
in your face at that point right uh but they've come a long way now yep yep yep yep no it's
definitely small um definitely i can i can have a much my desk desk is only like 24 inches deep, but I've got like arm stands that hold the monitor
like off the back of the desk.
So it's great.
Yeah, those are the best.
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All right, project updates.
Daddy is home and he hates printers again what's going on gavin
i really hate for you know like i i remember i hated printers and then i finally got it working
properly and you know for a while it was working i think i got an update from unify or something
but i hate printers again these brother printers and i was griping on mastodon about it i think
someone else was as well agreeing with me.
And they also had a brother printer.
So I was starting to think, hmm, my old printer was a brother printer.
My new printer is a brother printer.
They have a brother printer.
Is it just brother printers?
But every time my wife goes to print something, all I hear is, Gavin, it's not working.
You know?
And then I have to do the song and dance. And then I eventually reboot it to fix it, right?
See, reboot. You got to reboot. I hate printers again. I'm still trying to figure out
why this printer keeps going offline. It won't it won't stay awake or, you know, sometimes you go
and it's all air print. It's all Wi-Fi. So there's something up with it. I just don't know. I give up.
All right. So interestingly enough, I have a brother printer, too too it's the hl 3170 cdw it's
like a color laser i think it was like 100 on sale um and i have it hardwired in um and recently
and not like i updated this thing or anything like it just sits there on the network and prints
things it's connected it says it's idled but recently on my wife's windows
computer because she has a windows computer um she can't print she'll gap she says not gavin
she says daddy the printer she says yeah she says she says the the printer is not printing anymore
um you need to fix it and that's that's what we've been doing so i wonder if it's a windows
related issue not brother because i can print to it anytime i want i'm looking at it right now i you need to fix it. And that's what we've been doing. So I wonder if it's a Windows-related issue.
Because I can print to it anytime I want.
I'm looking at it right now.
I can connect to it.
I can check the options and supplies.
Just wait until you reboot your Mac.
No, I'm not rebooting.
I mean, because then my printer won't work.
Why would you do that?
But I mean, our solution has been to go like turn the print,
like you physically have to walk up to that printer
and turn it on out of that deep sleep mode.
For whatever reason,
maybe it's just a Windows computer thing
that's not updating or not waking it up
from that deep sleep.
It's really weird that you,
it's all brother printers at this point.
Now I'm assuming it's Windows in your case.
I think in our case, it has,
no, in this case, it has to do with uh air prints so
it's coming from our phone oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i'll say talk talk about yourself because i have
two brother printers that work great and you better not mess them up my brother printer like
i i love this thing it's great i'm pretty sure i can print from my phone if i wanted to right
i like them it's just i'm having no luck with the AirPrint, and I just give up.
So when she prints, she usually has to restart it,
and then it starts spitting out everything.
I hate printers again, though.
Yeah.
It's just her phone.
Just tell her to get a new phone.
But we did buy this.
I did buy this photo printer.
It just prints like 4x6s, right?
And it's Epson or Canon canon one of them and every time i
go to print it will never see my brother printer but it finds this one and there's no way i'm not
gonna make the mistake of printing a document on my photo printer but that one works fine so i'm
like why does the brother one not work the same way i don't know oh yeah that's really weird i
check for a firmware update let me see if there's an update for it yeah it's always something dumb like that it's probably
it's probably that the ios devices got updated to a new version of air print and the other the
brother is like an old version but yeah yeah it's funny it's funny that's happening here but i i i
love this thing i have no problems with it get a brother printer make sure you get the brother
printer it's good um dj d, you got an award, man.
This is a big deal.
What's this award about?
You know, I got this glass shiny shard thing from the local Chamber of Commerce for Entrepreneur of the Year.
So we had our annual dinner for the Chamber.
I think it was last week, last Tuesday or Wednesday.
And to my surprise, I won an award.
So that's been pretty cool.
Congrats, man.
It's the Entrepreneur of the Year Award there.
Yeah, DJ Huston, connect you.
Very good, 2022.
And it's the very first one.
So it's the inaugural one.
I feel like they made it for me,
but we'll find out who wins next year, I guess.
They just won't have an extra.
It's like, eh, nobody else, you you know i was so happy when i saw it because you know to all of our surprises you
got awards so you know people like me gavin i know you don't believe it but a lot of people
like me and i'm still trying to find out why to be honest like i'm with you i get where you're
coming from and everything but people like i wonder if i share the pre-show recording with
them what they'll think you know sometimes i i tell people about the podcast I'm like did I say anything bad about them no we
never do that well you've also been pretty busy um you got a couple of projects on here on the
list I've just been doing nothing because why would I be doing anything besides drinking my
ties on the Lido deck well that sounds better to be honest.
Yeah. You've been building things and labeling your van. So yeah. So we're just going to do,
we're just going to do a project dump here because we've had a lot of stuff going on in the past
couple of weeks. Uh, I got the, the van lettered. So I've been, I've had the van for about a year
now. I think I got it in like May of last year. And it's just been, you know,
a sketchy plain white van for this whole year. And I couldn't really decide on what to get it
lettered as right. Like some people tell you that you should get a full on wrap for the vehicle.
Some people say, oh, no, you just need like your logo and like your phone number. And I just I
went back and forth on what to put on the van. And honestly, I'm very happy with what I did. So we'll put an image in the
show notes there. Uh, but it's just my logo in the center of the van on, on each side, you know,
it says audio data security and video on the back as, as you do when you're in this kind of business.
Um, and then it's got the phone number and the website on the door on each side.
And on the back, it's got kind of the, like the white perforated vinyl stuff. So you can see out of the
back of the window, but they can't really see inside with, you know, my logo and all that good
stuff. So I'm just very happy with how it turned out. It wasn't the most expensive thing in the
world. I think it was like, you know, 1300 bucks or something for the installation and all the
vinyl and all that good stuff. So I'm not hating at all. The installers did a good job, like even on the hinge that Seth is showing off here. So
he's showing off the van on the video chat, um, on the hinge, they even put like the vinyl on there.
So that way it wouldn't break up the, the, the lettering any. So that way it wasn't just like
a white space. So like, they just did a very good job of installing everything.
And I'm very happy with it.
No, it looks great.
It really does.
Like you've done a great job here.
I was under the impression that I would walk out like the next morning and just like hate it. You know, when I was initially talking about getting it done, but I walked up the next morning and I was like, yep, this this looks like a legit company's van.
So I'm happy with it.
Very good.
Very good.
I've also got a cubicle 2.0 going on.
So I went and bought a used cubicle for the new office.
It was like $200.
And, you know, it's good enough for what it is.
But as I've sat here and doing the podcast and stuff like that, some of the things are
hard to control.
Like I got some outside sound coming in and I've got some light that I can't control. So if I sit still for 30 minutes in my unit, the motion
turns the light off and I have to jump off the podcast and go dance around for a little bit to
turn it back on. Um, there's no like manual override on my unit. Um, so I'm building a bigger
cubicle with like seven foot walls and I'm going to put a ceiling on there. Maybe I'll
get some nano leaf lights to kind of light it up. Um, but just something to kind of help out with
the, the audio quality and kind of give me like a more defined office area. So Seth, uh, has it on
the video, uh, there, if you're paying attention to the show right now, um, it's a work in progress.
I'm not in a rush to do it. And it's a great way for me to learn how to build walls before I buy a house this fall. So it's, uh, it'll, it'll be a fun project.
And I mean, is it to code? Like, do you have to make it to code? Is there permitting involved
here or are you just building a thing? No, no, no, absolutely not. It's just,
it's just going to sit in the back of my office where my current cubicle is like,
it's going to have an extension cord run through the back of it. Like it's not like a permanent
structure by any means. And I don't know if my management company that like rents the office
is going to care about it but i i don't think they're gonna looks fairly like it could be
fairly temporary like you could just disassemble it if you did it right or just tip it over yeah
and this is so i would just light it on fire actually and that's what i anticipate right
because i don't know how
long i'm going to stay at this place so i needed something that i could like take apart with
relative ease so i made it to where like i basically just take each side off and then i
can put it somewhere so i got to figure out how i'm going to do the plywood on top of that so i
can kind of keep that same mentality um but you know it's going to be a lot better than what i
have right now nice nice and then just one more. I'll talk about the other thing next week. Cause we can talk about that anytime, but
I've been putting off buying an iPad pro 12.9 inch because I just could not justify the cost.
Right. So for the cellular option with 128 gigs, I think by itself was like $1,400. And then you
add the keyboard case and then you add the insurance and you're like $1,400. And then you add the keyboard case and then you add the insurance
and you're like $1,700 for like a tablet. And I just, I never wanted to spend that on a tablet,
but having a cellular tablet that I can just whip out and kind of use like a laptop without having
the fullness of a laptop has been really convenient and it's been so much better than
the Android tablet I just had. And I understand that
like the iPad pro is relatively new compared to the Android tablet I was using, but like the
Android tablet just had all kinds of problems where it would just randomly crash apps. And
you know, if you did split screen mode, the apps had no idea of what was going on so that you
couldn't really use anything in split screen. The iPad Pro software, I think, is really good for multitasking.
You can do window on top of windows.
You can do a split screen.
And it's just a lot more well built for multitasking.
So the software itself is definitely an improvement on just like base Android on a giant screen.
Yeah.
It definitely hurt the the wallet though buying
that so yeah i just i i i think we talked about this before i just wish it was like
20 more computer and 30 less ipad yeah it's so close it's so close to being actually just a full
blown mac computer like in a in a really awesome one at that.
Like, I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, it can definitely be better,
but it doesn't really have any competition.
So it's really good at what it does
compared to everybody else
because everybody else sucks.
Yep, yep.
I mean, they still go down to like the 300,
maybe two $300 range,
$299 to $ three 99, somewhere there.
And then all the way up to what you're talking about, $2,000 for an iPad. It's crazy.
Yeah. And I wanted something with a big screen. Like I needed something that I could,
I, you know, I, I go to job sites and I want to pull up diagrams or I'm going to like meet up
with somebody and I just want a quick way to pull up stuff without bringing out my giant 17 and a
half inch laptop that always needs to be charged because I don't use it that often. And it doesn't somebody and I just want a quick way to pull up stuff without bringing out my giant 17 and a half
inch laptop that always needs to be charged because I don't use it that often and it doesn't
have cellular built in so I have to like hot spot off my phone which drains both batteries at the
same time this thing I just I whip out anywhere I'm at and I just use it yeah and that and that's
super convenient batteries always on because I mean they last forever but the yeah with that
screen it'd be good for like um you know the pictures
that you take the theater you know you could just put those like um previous work you've done it's
gonna look great on the screen so it's uh it's definitely a good presentation tool too so cool
well i've been wanting a newer ipad but i i just't. I can't justify. Well, I could justify it, but I don't.
I'm not going to justify it.
You don't need.
Don't need to justify it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I'm not a big tablet person.
Like I've went through many tablets in my lifetime.
Tablets for me are mostly inconvenient.
But I think that maybe the inconvenience is solved by the cellular portion.
So we'll see how I feel in a month or two, because with a tablet, you know, a lot of
people keep it at their house.
But if you take it with you, you have to use a different device in order to basically use
the tablet.
So I'm hoping that the cellular portion makes that a lot more convenient and it makes me
actually want to use it.
And I'm only paying $20 a month for unlimited internet on it.
So it's not
like it's a big drain on, on the wallet or anything. Like I just use it whenever I want.
Is that, is that T-Mobile that has that plan or AT&T?
So that's AT&T. Yeah. Yeah. Which was surprising.
Yeah. I forget about that. They have that unlimited tablet plan that a lot of people use to
put inside their home routers somehow but yeah cool very cool well yeah
keep us updated on how you like using it um so check into that now you got me thinking like
maybe it's maybe it is the cellular part that i don't like too much because it's
it's kind of like the issue i have with with the tablet is not convenient because i don't
it's not really ever connected to anything and every app you have on your phone is connected. That's the problem. Right. Well, and that's,
that's the thing, right? Is that like, and the tablet is basically just a glorified phone,
in my opinion, it doesn't really do that much different. And so with your phone,
you just pick it up and you use it. You don't really have to think about it, but the tablet,
you know, if you don't have the cellular portion, it seems like it's a lot more thought that goes
into it. And I've only ever owned wifi tabletsfi tablets before this so yeah james is saying i use ipad pro every day at work check out
good notes i can recommend that as well and morphio morphio trace i don't know about that
one but i will check it out okay okay never heard either it's a good note taking out. Works well.
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I decided to use the travel router to basically break up how...
Man, I think it's on my end.
This is crazy.
I think it's on your end too.
Yeah, I don't notice anything.
Did you reboot? Not rebootingoting gavin it's not happening it's a it's a failure option i can't believe i'm arguing
because we're gonna spend hours and days and then you'll finally reboot they'll be like i'll fix
everything yeah oh it's looking like it is not it's not not, I don't know what it is. It's something going on between here and...
The reboot?
When in doubt, reboot it.
Yeah.
Reboot, eh?
No.
It seems to have stabilized, but I don't know what is causing it.
I was getting a lot of weird things.
It's a boot time to reboot, yes.
Yes.
I don't know what he's talking about.
Yeah, it's back now.
It was something happening.
I'm going to have to reboot my router, I'm pretty sure.
You're going to reboot everything but the computer?
I've never rebooted the computer.
No, I'm not.
The computer's fine.
The computer hasn't been rebooted since 1990.
I am proud of my uptime, all right?
He hasn't rebooted it since he pulled it out of the box.
It's definitely the router.
There's something going on in the internet, rather.
Because I just got like five megabytes megabytes download so that was not good and then i just did it again
i did a test on the router the router's fine i did another test and it's back up to a gig so i don't
this is why we can't have nice things because seth won't reboot things i'm not rebooting i
updated the firmware on my printer let's see if this helps did you reboot it after you updated it i know it rebooted itself so we're good see because updates usually reboot the computers
that's that's the issue man if you got a good good setup you don't update that's the problem
if you update oh i hope that uh no that non-rebooted computer can handle this 1.16 gigabyte audio file