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This is the Home Tech Podcast for Friday, September 26th from Sarasota, Florida.
I'm Seth Johnson.
From Reynoldsburg, Ohio.
I'm T.J. Huddleston.
And from Pickering, Ontario, I'm Gavin Campbell.
And welcome to the HomeTac podcast, a podcast all about home technology, home automation.
And I guess for the third week in a row, Apple deliveries.
Whoa!
All right, we all got our stuff, right?
We all got everything?
Yep, I got my things.
Yep.
everything. All right. Well, I guess
we'll start off. Did everybody get new phones?
Yes. Yes. All right. What did you get?
I got the 17 Pro. Yeah, what color?
The silver. I really wanted black, but
there's no black. It's so weird.
I've always been a black phone type of guy. And
the one thing, like, with the silver that I'm not a fan of
is because then I got a black case, but the silver shows
through the back. Oh, yeah. You know, I wish I
could have black on black, but, you know,
Apple for some reason. The blue is pretty dark,
though. I know. I thought
about that after, I know, but.
And it's just clash of this case, you know, black and blue.
I mean, what is that? I could have got the blue case
and, you know, I know.
It would have been dark, yeah. But I'm happy. I'm still
happy. It works. All right.
What did you guess, Seth?
Orange.
Oh, that's what I got to. Ooh, you got the Trump phone.
I think that one's gold.
Yeah, it needs to be gold. Yeah.
No, I got, and I got, I'm all out on the orange stuff, right?
So I got that.
And then I got this today, which is, it's the return box for the other phones.
Back it up.
What was the battery you have for that?
That's the wallet.
That's the wallet, gotcha.
Yeah, the orange wallet.
I got the orange case.
So the verdict on, verdict on the fine, new, fine woven.
I really liked it.
It's not creepy as the other one was.
The other one was creepy.
gave you the hebe-jeebies.
This one, it's way better.
It's still slippery, though.
It slips out of my hand.
So I was like, you know what?
I'm going to go back to the Trident True.
Silicon thing that I can't, you know,
it sticks to your hand because it's silicon, right?
Do you have like soft hands?
You need to get some hard work.
A lot of lotion.
I really like this case.
Like, I'm still a fan of the leather case from a number of years ago.
I hated the last fine-woven one,
but this one, actually, I'm enjoying.
So I'm good with this.
I'm going to keep it just in case
I want to fancy up my phone
with this brown case I got
but you know
it's a very fall based phone
Yeah it was nice
Yeah yeah I got the iPhone 17 pro
I got it in orange as well
But I'm going caseless
This year I am doing a little different though
I did put a screen protector on there
I had the iPhone 15 Pro Max before
And I literally dropped that thing off of ladders
Like six foot and 10 foot ladders
Like a couple times not even kidding
And the only thing they ever got injured on it
Was the screen so this time
I opted for a screen protector, and it was super easy to apply.
I think I got it from like Spiggin, whatever that company it's called.
Yeah, I have the same ones.
Yeah.
And yeah, they give you like a whole little like plastic thing and you just like put it on the phone
and you do the thing and it makes it super easy.
The last time I put a screen protector on a phone was when I worked at Radio Shack when
you had to literally cut them down from plastic.
So it's been quite a while.
Nice.
I made the mistake of looking at like people doing the durability tests on these phones.
And, you know, on all those tests that.
The air passed with flying colors.
They loved the strength.
You know, it didn't scratch easily.
The screen was strong.
But then they got to the pro maxes, the pros and maxes.
And the screen's held up.
But then all the scratching on the case and stuff because it's different material.
So I started getting nervous.
So I put a, I'm not going caseless.
I'm full case.
Brave.
Yeah, I can't do that.
Yeah.
I will say the orange phone, like I like the orange color, but I think it's an ugly phone
because it's got that weird little back patch in the back.
it's not even like the same color all throughout the phone yeah like it's not attractive I don't know I don't even see that well yeah you got a case on I go caseless though I look at dangerously yeah so I guess I could look at that because I don't even noticed it but I was wondering it's weird when you like hold it compared to like the iPhone 15 which I use without a case as well that kind of just felt like nice in the hand all together this one doesn't feel bad in the hand I don't it's just a weird texture though compared to like the rest of the phone so it's just weird for an apple phone plastic piece on the
Back, yeah, I see what you mean.
Yeah.
And it doesn't look different straight on, but if you turn it to the side, it's a lot lighter than the metal.
Right.
Yeah, because it's like a completely different material, so it's going to be a different color.
But I don't know.
I feel like they could have figured out a way to not do that, but I'm not Apple.
Exactly.
Well, it's the next billion dollar idea is how to make the phone all the same color.
Back to titanium.
Exactly.
Yeah, and then I picked up a set of AirPods Pro 3.
I really liked my AirPods.
So I went ahead and just bought a new pair.
And then I bought my first brand new Apple Watch.
I got the Apple Watch SE, the third generation.
Nice.
So I'm using it for mainly the health stuff right now.
I really don't care about the notifications.
I'm using to track my walks and my sleep patterns and stuff like that and see if I have, you know,
see if I have any health issues.
I live in America.
I don't have health insurance.
So, you know, $250 for an Apple Watch.
That's my health insurance.
You tell you when you're going to die.
That's right.
Thanks, Apple.
I ended up getting the headphones as well,
the AirPods 3s or whatever, Pro 3s.
I thought about it.
I'm like, you know what?
I use these things every day, every single day.
And I like them, so I got them.
Nice.
And then I was sitting around, and my wife is like,
I want a new watch because our daughter needs a watch.
She wants a watch.
So we did a watch rotation.
And now that you can, like these little things you can basically set up as,
a kid's watch
and you see a little tiny band on it
and everything
and so I set that one up
she got the SE as well
SE's actually a decent watch
really good watch this year
and then I was sitting around like
man my watch kind of
it's been dying lately
I kind of feeling
I went on and looked at the trade-in
they're gonna give me like
$330 for the trade-in on it
so I'm like done
like it's all get a new watch
so yeah
new watch
I think the headphones are coming
tomorrow? I don't know. I got them engraved, so they're going to take a little bit longer.
Because I have so many of them. I just can't remember which one's which. And so like I engraved
I just put a number on it. I just looking in the chat, Richard has engraved his all professionally
like looking. Yeah. And and I'm like, yeah, I just put numbers on them so I can keep up which is
which. I got I got the watch 11 as well. That one, that's something I use enough that I could
easily justify. So, you know, and the happiest
person is my sister because she's getting my old 15 pro and she's getting my old watch so she's
all excited about that so yeah cost me a bit of money but it's worth it and then my i had the
AirPods pro too so i'm i'm good with that because they're adding the translation features to it
and in iOS 18.1 i see they added uh or not a 26.1 um which may be out by the time the show gets
released, they added a few more languages. So I think I have a language in there that I can go
for dim sum now and listen in on people. That's what whole goal with these things is to go and listen
and see what they've been saying about us this whole time, you know? I'll be sitting there ordering
a food and they'll be like, this guy eats way too much. I ran across this guy on TikTok that
like has, he's a white guy and he has a perfect, I mean, he's clearly from Jamaica, but he has a
perfect to make an accent but he like has i i have no idea some of the words they're saying they like
they transcribe it so i'm like okay yeah there's there there's a whole language there man it's
it's amazing like it's truncated and like you know what say what you got to say it comes out
as one and it's perfect that's all you need to say you see that and you're done i'm like done
yeah it's great but it's just funny because he he he speaks he speaks like it's pat
it's clearly been in the states and then he'll he'll he'll he'll
He'll be, like, on the phone, his phone will go off and he's like, oh, I'm sorry, and he'll pick it up and be like, hey, dear to girl.
Just go into this rant and he's interviewing like Jamaican women and they're like, oh.
So it's funny because my family's Jamaican.
So one time I went to Jamaica, you know, for vacation, it's a resort, right?
And the whole time, like, the guys on the resort were talking in front of me in Batwa.
Yeah.
You know, because they assume I don't understand.
Well, they were talking about some serious stuff.
And they were talking to this one story and I started laughing and they turned to me and they're like, wait, you know what we're saying?
I go this whole time.
I was like this whole time I was listening to you guys, you know?
That's awesome.
Can you please not repeat anything we said because they'll get us in trouble.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, it was funny.
I go, but you got to finish that story because I want to know the ending.
Don't go anywhere.
That gave me the ending
That's too good
That's too good
Yeah
I stayed on that channel for a little bit
I'm like man this is amazing
Because he was
The conversations he had
Were we're just hilarious
I'll send him to you Gavin
You'll get a kick out of them too
All right
Yeah it's it's comedy
It's comedy gold
The conversations alone were comedy
And then the fact that he would switch back and forth
It was pretty funny too
So anyway
we have not much in the way of headlines saying a couple of new products out there including
our nice new Apple products but wait wait wait wait you want to mention the CS again oh yeah probably
you should talk about well yeah i mean Seth still hasn't confirmed so Seth is not going at this
point but Gavin and I are going to see yes so you can meet us there we'll be there I'll possibly
be there you know you know what though TJ um we got the the place to stay in the flight
yeah how are we getting into it oh yeah we probably have to work on
that. Yeah, I don't know, because I'm a little big to sneak by anybody.
No, you can definitely sneak by people. No, no, I walk with some heavy feet, so they'll hear me going by.
We'll figure that part out. I mean, I haven't even booked my flights yet, so.
Oh, boy. So you're definitely maybe too. Well, no, I was just, I know, right?
You're giving me head. No, no, no, no. I'm confirmed. Like, I'm going to buy the flights no matter what, but I'm waiting for, Google Flights keeps telling me.
It's like, you know, the perfect time to buy flights to Vegas is like October, like, 7th through
November or whatever. And I'm like, all right, Google, I'm trusting you. But really what I'm doing
is I've got a lot of credit card points saved up. And so I'm going to use that to buy the,
tickets. I need two tickets because Nicole's coming as well. And I think I need like 5,000 more credit
card points. So I'll have that here in the next couple weeks. You know, you know, what's amazing is
the flights from coming from Canada are so cheap to Vegas that I almost feel like when I go to
checkout, there's going to be all these hidden fees added on. You know, like, no, I, you know,
Not many people are flying down apparently, so that's a bonus for me.
Yeah, I'm not just to like, I think there's not a lot of nonstop flights.
And if there's nonstop flights, they're kind of later in the day.
The one nonstop flight that I really want, it gets it in.
It's so weird because the time change.
The flight leaves at like 6 o'clock and we get into Vegas at like 8 o'clock.
Yeah.
So even though it's like a five-hour flight.
Yeah.
But five-hour flight altogether with the time change.
But it's crazy.
And it costs like $500 per ticket.
Oh, wow.
And that's like, some of them have like a layover for like 12 hours or something ridiculous.
No, no, no, thank you.
There's not a lot of good flights from Columbus to Vegas for some reason.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
So. What's your flight looking like, Seth?
I don't know.
I mean, it's, I'm looking at Google.
See, I didn't collect those credit card points.
I got a bunch of credit card debts.
Oh, you want me too.
That's how I got the credit card points, Seth.
I mean, they don't equal each other out.
No, no, it didn't work that way, huh?
I don't.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'll look into this, see what the flights look like at that time.
I don't want to leave it six in the morning.
That's awful.
Well, I mean, you kind of have to.
You can have jet lag.
You're going to recover.
We can't check into 1.30 anyway.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah.
I mean, I'll go sleep on the strip.
This is it.
Let's see.
What am I supposed to, how do you find the track the prices?
You just got like Google flights and then.
Oh, I'm on there.
Oh, it says it's.
low. Maybe I should just buy this. There you go. It's a 3.39 for a round trip. That's not bad.
I mean, your lodging is literally already figured out. I mean, you don't have to figure that
out. I mean, you're probably, you're probably ditch us the last minute, though. You're like,
oh, actually, I'm going to stay over here instead.
That's what will happen. Yeah, I know. Yeah, that's what Seth will do to us.
Oh, what is this? Hold on. I don't get seat selection. I don't get ticket changes or mileage
counted, but I got to pay, oh, more than that. Oh, I see how they're doing this.
One free carry-on. Hmm. All right. Well, I'll think about that. I'll just save it
here on this tab.
Let's see.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, meet us at, uh, in Vegas, pause.
We've, at first, CES, 2026, sometime between January 4th and the 9th.
When is it?
January 4th to 5th.
So we're going, our Airbnb that we booked is the 4th through the 9th.
So that's the dates we're going.
Okay.
You'll, you'll guarantee, you're guaranteed to meet two out of three of us.
That's right.
Two to three, two to three home tech podcast hosts.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Probably not Seth.
Because even if Seth shows up, he'll get lost.
I mean, that's what.
Yeah.
Done.
All right.
Well, we got to, like I said, we got a couple of home-and-take headlines.
What do you guys say?
We jumped in.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
All right, new product.
One guess what new product company this is coming from?
It's ridiculous.
I don't think it's Unifier.
No, it is Unified.
Chimicotty.
Oh.
So many products.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
So we got a retrofit hub, which this was at CD.
And a lot of people thought it was a, including us.
We thought it was a security.
system or something like that. No, no. It's a
hub that you can use to retrofit in
their access control system
in areas that may not
have the, what was it, have all the wiring
that you need for like their POE versions of everything, right?
So if you're installing, it's like a takeover.
Like if you need to take over an access control system, it's old and
janky, you could go and put this in. And
they've got all the ports and parts and pieces and power supplies
and a little box. It looks like a security box. It does, but it
No, this is for access control.
And they've got a retrofit receipt reader now.
So if you can use the old wiring,
you don't have to get a cat 5 over there,
to get it hooked up to where your old Weigand reader was by the door.
And then what I thought was really cool.
They've upgraded the visitor management thing at the bottom of this page
where it had the little printed thing.
You can go in there and you take your picture,
it checks out who you are,
and it will integrate with the printer to print you a little,
the name badge.
Yeah, I like these products.
This is something, I think if ubiquity gets a little more serious and access control
in cameras, there'll be a real powerhouse in the ecosystem because these are really
good products and they don't cost anything monthly.
They get all the remote features and everything else.
PDK and all these other companies are charging you a month, you know, monthly or yearly
fee per door in a lot of situations.
And, you know, it might only be $20 to $40 per door, but if you want to control like eight
doors. I mean, that's a couple hundred dollars a month. Yep.
229 for the retrofit hub and I don't know how much the other thing is, but it's probably
not expensive either. They could definitely be one of the big ones in the marketplace. I was watching
at work, they were talking about getting some access control stuff put in. People were posting
pictures of the door and the card readers and stuff. I'm like, why did they go that direction? Because
with ubiquity, you can use your phone. Like, there's no cards. You don't need cards. Cards is such
like a 90s technology. That's not cool anymore.
you want to use your phone you want to walk up
you want to use your watch your brand new apple watch
what are you going to use that for you got to
know you got to dig around and find this stupid
access card no no no no
we're living in 2025 people
if you're doing if you're doing an access
control system and it doesn't do
tap with your phone to open the door
tap with your watch or whatever
you're doing it wrong you're paying too much money
for the stupid cards
they're talking about 20 bucks
20 bucks if you lose it too
I'm like that's stupid put on my phone
all right well somebody who works with the public
That's just not possible all the time, unfortunately.
And ubiquity does sell access cards.
So even they are on board with the access cards.
It's a backup.
Yeah, it's stupid.
Yeah.
Just use the Bluetooth in your phone.
NFC, man.
Come on.
Look, look, I agree.
I would be one of those ones when I rent in my office.
We have like a PDK, you know, access control system for the gate to get into the yard.
And I was like, can you just give me, like, credentials so I can use my phone.
And they're like, no, we don't do that.
And I was like, how do I get in?
They're like, use a pin code.
And I was like, I can't even get like a key fob or like a card or something.
They said, no, we don't have those.
And so up until like six months ago, I got a, I got a key fob finally.
And I was like, cool, we got these new card readers.
Can't use my phone with it?
And they said, nope, but you can use this fob with it.
Amazing.
I was like, at least I got that.
Yeah.
And you've, you've moved up into like what the overnight gyms were doing 20 to 10 years, 20 to 20 years ago.
So, sorry, great.
Yeah, this thing's got four POE out on it for rears.
So it powers with POE, powers with power supply, too.
It's got battery hookup.
It's got gate operators on it, gate relays for two of them.
It's got side door, ox relay outputs.
He's got two inputs for doors and two inputs for gates.
So this is a bunch of stuff that it's got here on this product.
That would be good.
Good job, ubiquity.
I say that every week now.
It seems like they're coming out with the new product that impresses you.
this is pretty impressive.
I can use this for my community center.
Now, they don't have any doors
that we could use it with,
but I could use it with my community center.
Can you imagine me like, no, no,
you don't use a, you don't use a key fob or a card or a pin code.
You got to use your phone and all those old people doing it.
Oh, man, that would be.
Oh, yeah.
See, that exactly.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Oh, people, I'm not going to use my phone.
I tried to get them to use WhatsApp once because I'm like,
stop texting me, you know, 40,000 people.
No, didn't work.
I'm on like 3,000.
threads of 20 people like I automatically block all of those I don't want to be part of any
group chats is anybody seen the alligator in the creek no go all right anyway let's move on here
we got another new new product Google has a new looking home app it's powered by AI yay go AI go
go Google well they already talking about bringing a Gemini into the Google Home Smart platform
now they're doing a little refresh on the UI.
So it doesn't change dramatically,
but it's got a few tweaks in there
to help streamline the operation.
There's a video up in the story
that we will post here.
And yeah, so now it's got,
now you get your AI Google Home
in your nice,
a nice new refresh on it.
So it looks very nice.
Actually, there's a home assistant theme
that is similar to this
that I am trying to implement currently
because I do like just how easy it looks.
It's very Googly.
Yeah.
What does it do with these weird people with large pants, drawings?
Like, that's got to be AI generated, right?
It's a style.
It's so weird.
It was on Facebook for a long time.
It may still be there, too.
Oh, yeah.
Like, for the Facebook groups, they had, like, a default image with these people that were
small heads, giant pants, and running around throwing frisbees and stuff.
It's just what a lot of people in California look like, stuff.
I guess so.
they're modern furniture
all right
let's move on here
we got also
well this isn't
this isn't good news
because if you're in Canada
and you want to buy Sonos
gets what it's going to cost more
Bon
Sonos
Sonos has increased prices
in Canada
across multiple products
the most notably
in the Arculture
now costing
$1,500 Canadian
1449 Canadian
wow
this just hurts
yeah
yeah
no more Sonos
for Gavin
Uh-huh.
Uh, you know what?
At this point, I don't need any more Sonos in my house.
If I walk in with one more Sono speaker, the wife is going to kill me.
Wow, the sub is $11, $1,200?
That can't be right.
These are Canadian prices.
Jeez, I wouldn't look at Sonos at all.
You get them used.
You get them used.
So, so my, my sub, luckily, I have, like, at work, we give out these podium award points and stuff like this.
And I've never taken it on.
but I logged into the account one day
and realized I had enough to buy a Sono speaker.
So I bought the Sono sub with it.
So that's the only way I bought one.
That's the only way I could justify it.
Yeah, well, it's quite the move two is up $90.
The Beam 2 also up $90 Canadian.
These are Canadian dollars.
So it's like, what?
It's cheaper if you buy them at Costco, though, up here.
Everything is cheaper at Costco.
The only problem when you buy them at Costco, it's like for two.
You know, you have to, you get two speakers for this.
You can't just buy one speaker.
And the Costco ones are, some of the speakers are a different model.
It's almost like that's the model that's from Costco.
I think like the beam was the beam shadow or something like that.
It was like a grayish color.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And that only is available at Costco, I believe.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
So things to keep in mind.
Well, expect if you're anywhere else, expect price adjustments be coming later this year
because the last quarter, Sonos had to pay an extra $2.1 million for U.S. tariffs to get its products across the border.
And it's actually spent $3.5 million in cash to cover those fees when the shipments arrived.
So they're out some money here, and they expect it to get higher.
It's going to be as much as $10 million in cash next year.
Wow. Those tariffs are hurting.
Yeah, yeah, it's not feeling great.
So, well, thank you for paying some of them, Gavin, because evidently, you're,
you're going to buy this Arculture, you'll be paying $150 more for into tariffs for us.
Well, not me personally, you know.
Yeah, somebody's guys.
No, you're paying for it.
Wait, no, Mexico wasn't going for it.
They can't pay for it.
They still got that wall to finish.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Why are they going to get on that?
All right.
Well, I'm not buying a Sonos anytime soon, so I guess it doesn't bother me too much.
If you don't want a Sonos, though, Keff, as maybe your answer, because they're, they've introduced a new muo.
I don't know how you say that.
M-U-O Bluetooth speaker comes in some seven, seven count of vibrant colors.
That's crazy.
And it's a little like Wi-Fi speaker.
You can tow it looks like this is at the pool, and they're reading some kind of large magazine.
And with a, what is that, bourbon, I guess, next to it.
So, yeah, there you go.
IP 67 rated, Bluetooth 5.4, 24-hour battery will last all day long.
There you go.
this can actually work
with some of their
the KC62 subwifers it says
so you can actually
zone these together and everything
I don't have a price here
do you see a price? I don't see a price
249. Oh, that's not bad.
Yeah, it's actually not bad. It's very affordable
for a KF product. Yeah. Look at it.
They got them like set up next to a laptop. You got two of them.
That's not bad. All right. So this is my gripe
with these kind of products, right? They have these portable
speakers and they got next to the pool and I'm like,
all right, you know, it makes sense next to a pool.
Are you going to pair these with your laptop and you're going to pair two of them with the laptop?
Are you going to do that, Seth?
I don't think I would do that.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I would just use my laptop speaker.
I don't know.
Put some headphones on.
Yeah, right?
If you want something better sounding, yeah, you can pair.
You see, the nice thing is you can pair away your laptop and work with them.
And then when you go to the pool, just grab one of them and go to the pool and then use it there, you know?
So, because I have the, these look exactly like a sonal.
Rome, for example, right? And for the most part, my room just sits there in my family
room not being used because we just use it when we go out in the backyard. So if, you know,
it's nice that when it's not being used in the backyard, you can use it next to your computer or
something like that, right? That's a good point. Are you using next to your computer though,
Gavin? I'm not. I don't even know if I can pair it when I, I never even try because my computer,
I have hardwired speakers. So I don't have a use for it. But if you had these,
use it with your computer.
And then when you go in the backyard or you go,
whatever, just grab one and go.
You know, and if you have kids,
you'll always be missing one.
Well, I can't, I can't say anything because I have a Sonos
Ray as a computer speaker, so.
Yeah.
I have the Sonos 5 next to me, but it's not,
I tried it on the computer,
but I didn't like the control.
Well, if you don't like those,
it looks like I was looking at their website.
They have some LS 50s,
and those are wireless speakers that you can get.
They're larger.
I wouldn't recommend carrying them out to the pool.
But they come in vibrant color.
They come in some colors, too.
They come in green and white and black.
They come in more colors than the iPhone.
Let's just put it.
Oh, wow, they're $15.99, so.
Big difference.
$3,000 for the wireless twos.
They looked like they could push a little more air than a little calf speakers can.
So which colors would you guys get?
Let me go over them here.
We've got silver dusk, amber Hayes, orange moon, blue aura, moss green, cocoa brown, and midnight black.
I like, I'm just a black.
Midnight black, all right.
They got, the orange one to match your iPhones, DJ?
It's like an orange, reddish color.
I don't know.
It may match part of your iPhone.
I don't know if I, do I want a portable speaker that matches my phone?
I don't know.
You have to carry it with your phone.
I do want AirPods that match my phone, though.
No, only white, sorry.
There's companies you can get to probably change the color on them if you really wanted.
They're like skins and stuff you can put on them.
All right.
Let's move on here.
We've got a really cool story from smart things of one of their new updates.
They're going to, they're going to now support shared thread network.
So this is the like the multi-log-in, multi-admin feature for Matter.
And now you'll be able to use, like they have some pictures here where you can actually log in.
You can do credential sharing.
So like if you have stuff that's hooked up through an Apple device, an Apple HomePy,
or something like that
and that's your thread router
for those products
and you got some stuff
hooked up to home assistant
or something else.
You can see all those
in there and interact with them
with their smart things hub.
So this is kind of cool.
This is like bringing,
this is like what everybody thought matter would be,
you know,
where everything is like grouped together
and it all supposedly works together
and talks together.
Anyway, this is rolling out right now
on a firmware date.
So by October 1st,
if this podcast is out,
then you definitely have it.
If you have smart things.
I feel like a home assistant had this feature already.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're first to everything.
Yeah.
And one of my gripes is when I want to delete a matter device, where the heck do I delete it?
Like, do I got to find the hub that it's on and delete it from there to get it off everything else?
I think that's a feature that's planned for like Matter 7 or something.
It's once you're in, you're in.
You can't go back out.
Oh, my.
Except the matter.
Yeah.
So that, I don't know, it's pretty cool.
It's good to see these updates finding starting to roll out.
on larger systems.
I mean, there's probably more,
I don't know, which do you think
there's a more home assistant installs
or Samsung's smart things?
Probably Samsung smart things, I would think.
No, definitely a homeless system.
No, come on.
Come on.
No one even knows those smart things is.
Every refrigerator out there
has the smart things I've built into it.
Every TV.
True.
It hurts.
Make it hurt.
Existence is pain.
Yeah.
I don't know.
There's probably more,
it's one of those mass consumer things
and if somebody has a Samsung phone
they'll be like oh I got the smart things
built into this or whatever and they'll just
they'll buy something that works with it right
I've had friends I know that have done that right
they just go stuff that way so
I don't know I feel like there's probably more smart things
installs out there than home assistant
but they're catching up so there we go anyway
we'll put the links in show notes and you can check it out
and see what the version you need to be on
to do all this if you want to check out any
any and all of the links and topics we discuss tonight.
They'll be found over in our show notes
over at hometech.fm slash 544.
Let's move on.
We've got to pick of the week here.
And third week in a row,
is this third week in a row?
I don't know.
I feel like every week,
TJ goes somewhere interesting
and he comes back from a dive bar
and has interesting pictures.
Yeah, this one's awful.
It's not even interesting.
This is a,
we went to Tiffin, Ohio a couple weeks ago
for work.
And I went to this.
brewery that was only up on like Wednesday through Sunday, I think.
And they got these awful light fixtures right on top of the bar because I don't know.
It hurts.
It looks like what they did is they bought this place.
And they're like, it's really dark in here.
And it's like, yeah, of course you got black ceilings.
I mean, what are you going to do?
And they're like, well, I know what we can do to install the lights.
We'll just put some lights in the bar here.
And they had these round down lights and they're like, you know what?
Take the round down lights in and put some security floodlights in.
And part of them, like, they're using it to, like, highlight the menu because, like, on the left of the screen, you can't really see it, but there's, like, the beer menu.
Oh, okay.
Some of them to do that, but not all of them.
It'd be different if they're using all.
Yeah, I get it.
Well, they did replace a single potlight with a dual floodlight, so they got.
There's three floodlights on this thing, not dual.
Look, and I really wanted to go back the next day.
We were leaving that night, but I really wanted to go back the next day and bring them, like, three PTSD.
light bulb cameras
and put it in one of those
and be like, look,
I want you to use this
for the next couple weeks
and let me know how it goes.
Oh, it would have been perfect.
But we left, so.
That would have been perfect.
Yeah, there's,
there's no other way in the world
they could have highlighted
that menus on the far wall there.
Can't think of any other way
they could have done it.
No, definitely not.
I mean, to be honest,
it would have been a lot of work.
So, like, I'm not,
I'm not hating on this completely.
It was just surprising to see
when I walked in there.
So I feel like they could have just
chose a nicer looking ones,
but it's,
Uh, it's Tiffin, Ohio.
There's not a lot of people there, so...
It's functional, right?
That's right.
They can see the bar, you can see what you're drinking, you can see what you're ordering.
Uh, they're in business.
There you go.
That's all you need.
It works.
How was the beer, though?
Was it a beer good?
Uh, it was not bad.
It's some good appetizers, too, so...
I had an October fest last night.
I was at a beer place, and I was like, it's September.
I should...
I haven't had any October Fest beer.
And I was like, I'm...
Give me the October Fest.
And they probably not.
I can't remember who it was from, but it was delicious.
and I would get it again.
Nice.
Yeah.
That is the best part for traveling around.
I was just trying the different regional breweries.
So. Yeah.
All kinds of different taste out there.
This place is like a little, not a, not a regional place.
They do have regional beers.
It's just, it's your regular, like, neighborhood bar.
And all they serve is beer and stuff.
So they have pizzas and all sorts of fun stuff to eat wings, good wings.
All right.
Well, if you have any feedback questions, ideas for the show, or picks of the weeks,
It was a shout. Email just is feedback at HombTech.fim, or you can head on over to HombTac.fim slash feedback and fill out the online forum.
All right, project updates. Gavin, you're up first with more water. What are you doing with your water heater? What? Why am I out first?
Well, I mean, I can talk about what I did. No, no, because we know there's no ending to it.
No, it's not, I mean, you're right, actually. I'm not done. I'm not done. I finished one. I finished one of like,
five. So, okay, fine. Okay, I'll go first. I'll go first. All right. No, I have water heater in
here because, you know, I've been getting, since I talked about my water heater a while back
and connecting it to the Wi-Fi and all that type of stuff, I actually got a number of people message
me about the ESP home integration for water heaters, right? So it's like a telephone jack.
What's that, RJ-11, I think it's called. And they could plug it into their water heater and then it gives
it local control right into Home Assistant with a lot of options.
And I love that, like how it is.
The problem is my water heater doesn't have that jacket,
it has a different plug on it.
And the project, I've been watching that project for a while,
hoping they would decode it one day,
but they haven't made much progress on it.
So my water heater can't get integrated into ESB home yet,
but I'm keeping my eye on that project.
I just want to thank everybody that sent me that project because, yes, it's a nice project.
So if you have a water heater, it has like a telephone plug with a little port on it,
you can get an ESP home device and connect it to home assistant with full local control.
And it will be worth your time.
So that's why I wanted to talk about the water heater again.
I just want to thank Griff, because he messaged me this week with a bunch of details.
And some of them actually were newer details.
so I got to keep up to date even more with that project.
What is this thing called?
What is it called the project?
Is it EcoNet?
Yes, it's the EcoNet, ESP 32.
ESP 32.
All right, yeah.
All right, we'll put a link to that in the show notes as well.
So I just want to thank everyone for the feedback on that.
And did you guys see in the hub this week, Alango, one of our members, posted a picture of his Unified Chimes?
Yes.
Yeah, he got a whole many chimes.
I know, I know.
I felt like, he's got a chime everywhere.
And my, I initially thought I was like,
this is for one room, right?
Yeah, because you're going to need 10 chimes just to hear them.
Yeah, well, I did message him on the side and I told them, you know,
like the chimes are so quiet,
but I sent them a wave file of a ding-dong that I modified a while back.
And, and all, okay, that sounded worse than it really is.
I sent him a doorbell.
a doorbell
sound
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anyways back family show
family show
I can't believe
I said that
Is this still recording?
It's a show title.
What are you talking about?
Okay.
I sent them an audio file of a doorbell,
and I bumped up the volume on it like multiple times.
I like really push the volume.
And using that, you can upload it to your chime.
It makes it a lot louder.
So if you have one of these unified chimes,
it's too quiet for you.
Just make your own sound and pump up the volume on it a lot.
It was amazing because the chime actually does.
You know, when you pump up the volume on something,
it clips a lot and you'll hear it in.
No, the chime doesn't clip.
It was actually still very clear.
So they obviously don't have the volume on that chime up high.
They have a couple of way files on there.
Some of them are a little bit stronger than the default one that comes with it
because it's kind of like a relaxing.
Yeah, but they're all quiet still.
Yeah, it's all real quiet and peaceful, each one of those doorbells.
And, like, doorbells, in my experience, are like,
like if they're not jolting
like I'm not going to hear it
yeah I know or I just put the chime in your duck system
I'll echo through that house
I've only ever heard that Canadian thing
it's so crazy
I actually I installed a unified chime for a client this week
and they're like oh I wasn't going to do it
because it's so quiet and I was like well actually
my friend Gavin sent me this amplified audio file
there you go I'll upload that to you for a cool
$500 wait
wait a minute
Where's my cut?
We got to talk around this.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sorry.
No, what I do also to get around that is, you know,
and I saw the Reddit thread, I think you posted DJ this week of somebody that did this.
So my doorbell, when it gets pressed, I haven't actually sent a webhook to Home Assistant.
And Home Assistant also plays the sound over my Sonos speakers.
And it works really well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, like, even on my Rome, it will play it on my Rome.
so even when we take it into the backyard and we're sitting there and someone rings a doorbell,
we hear it in the backyard too.
And you can control the volume and everything like that.
So I have it, you know, that's just utilizing my sono speakers instead of buying a whole bunch of chimes, you know, so.
Yeah, you can do that through, I mean, like, we've been doing that through Control 4 for a long time,
but like I noticed, sometimes, I don't know, I think I'd change out some stuff here and there
and that doesn't work anymore as much as it used to.
Actually, now I'm thinking about it.
I think that I, it probably stopped working.
when I got rid of the Unify,
the main controller with everything that's hooked into.
So I'll probably need to just go through
Protect to do that, right?
Well, yeah, in Protect, you can do,
it's in the alert manager, you can send
web hooks to wherever you want.
A web hook, yeah.
It's awesome feature.
That would do it.
Yeah.
Yeah, the ubiquit is really up their game
and like how, what you can do
with integrations in that platform.
And it's not all reliant on like
hacks anymore, like they actually have a real API.
Yeah, the, the,
Yeah, the integration in a home assistant I've always said is really good.
So it's worth like looking at that if you don't use it today.
Yep, cool.
And one of the things we've been talking about, you know, over the last few months is the SM light products.
We've mentioned them a few times.
I'm running one of them with Zigby and thread.
That's the company with like a billion different products.
Yes.
Yeah.
So I just wanted to mention they released an OS update this week.
And the reason why I'm mentioning it to people is because they've been having a bit of stability problems with their products.
And this OS update looks like they may have, they worked really hard on that stability stuff.
And since updating, mine hasn't gone offline at all.
So I'm really, I just mentioned, if you have issues with yours dropping off,
another symptom is Zigby to MQTT crashes.
Just look at updating.
It's just the OS.
It's not as the Zygby radio or anything.
It's an SM Lite OSU update.
And hopefully that will solve your problem this time around.
So I just wanted to mention that to anybody that has the SM light products.
Very cool.
I will put a link to that in the show notes as well.
If you want them, that's where you can buy them to.
Yes.
Very cool.
And that wraps up my projects for this week.
What do you got going on, TJ?
Oh, I skip right over Seth.
Geez.
All right.
Well, for this week, I have a couple different things going on.
I've been doing some more rack cleanup.
I've got a couple other things going.
on with the rack right now, but I can't talk
about that. But I did
one of the reasons it kind of
spurred this was I got
new battery backup.
And so I installed that.
It's a 3,000 volt amp
battery backup from Cyberpower.
It takes a 30 amp plug.
It's ridiculous. I had
the old one installed like
a year ago, I think. I talked about it on the show
here. But I found
this one at a client job that I left
it there a while ago. And
So I took it with me and I installed it on the wall.
I got about another 30 minutes of runtime in it compared to my old battery backup.
So that's nice.
I'm going to two hours and 15 minutes of battery backup for my entire network and home
assistant, my security cameras, like everything.
So it is actually nice because we have a lot of power outages in my area for some reason.
I really don't understand why.
But they've gotten a little better, I think.
But this has been super helpful.
but one of the things I actually wanted to point out was
these Unified Brush Panels
We'll link these in the notes
If you haven't seen them yet
These are just standard brush panels
What I like about these though
Seth you know the traditional brush panels
Where it has like the little bristles
Going in from like the top of the brush panel
And then you're like you push your cables through
And stuff like that
And like the little bristles go outside
We're going mustache keeping pan
They're awful
because you poke your cables through it and then like the little little bristles come out and then you got to like push the brisk them back in yeah it's like obnoxious this unified brush panel fixes that so it's got bristles that come from the top and the bottom and so it's basically like a split in the middle and the split's just permanent so no matter what there's just a little split there it's not bad it's not very ugly or anything like that but what that does is prevent those little bristles from coming out and being unsituated yeah so this this this
This has solved my problem with brush panels because that just annoys me.
What I don't like about ubiquity of brush panels, though,
is that they kind of feel cheap in the fact that you have to put them together when you get them.
Oh, that's weird.
They have like the little side ears.
Like, you know, when you get like a dream machine or one of their B.O.
switches or whatever, you put the little ears on there for the rack.
It's not one piece.
Yeah, you have to do that for the brush panel and the blank panel.
And like, it's just like, that's weird.
like I don't just ship it as a one piece
but I guess it makes it easier for them
For $40?
You get, how many do you get for $40?
One. Oh no.
Yeah.
Come on.
I will live with out of place mustache bristles.
It's so nice though.
But yeah, for $40, just make it one piece.
I mean, come on.
Like, I don't want to mess with it.
I don't want to put it together when I open the box.
But the only reason I got it is because I, like,
I'm always placing orders for ubiquity
and I'm always looking at the website.
I'm like, what should I buy from ubiquity?
this time. And so this time I bought some rack stuff.
$50 one new rack shelves. Good Lord.
Yeah. And like, what I like about ubiquity is that the products are pretty nice.
Their rack stuff is getting there. It's relatively new in the grand scheme of things.
But they don't have a lot of different options. Like, I want it like a two-use shelf or I want like
a three-use shelf and they don't have those options. So you have to like paint your own shelf.
And it's nice because when you have it all matching and stuff, the thing I don't like about it is
Everything else, non-ubiquity, is black.
Yeah, so I'm working on some spray paints so I can fix a couple of other things.
Well, you know you can take it apart.
You know how to take it apart to paint it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is a good brush panel, though.
I like this brush panel.
The other thing I've been doing is cleaning up home assistant.
So I've got, you know, I've been traveling for like the past month.
And there's just stuff that I have not been working on.
when it comes up like my home assistant or my technology in the house in general.
And so this week I've been going around.
I've just been getting some of my automations refined and cleaned up.
I got a new phone this week.
And I've kind of been playing phone roulette for the past like month.
And so I'm going through my automations and just making sure all my notifications are set up for my phone and all that good stuff.
So that's been fun.
There's been a couple of things I've removed or I've just like, you know, disabled completely because, you know,
We're getting towards the end of the growing season, for example,
so the garden doesn't need to be watered three times a day.
So there's stuff like that that I've been going through and getting rid of, which is nice.
I've been doing that too, but I really wish they had a feature where I can see, like,
even in hacks, I can pick one of the ones I install and see if I'm using it anywhere before I uninstall it.
Right now, I take a guess, I cross my fingers, I uninstall it and hope it nothing breaks.
What's that, the device or automation?
Automations or even like devices or even dashboards.
Like I installed a lot of things over time and a lot of them I don't use anymore.
I want to uninstall them, but I'm just not sure if I use them anywhere.
For dashboards, I usually open up the raw XML and just do a search to see if I used it anywhere.
But it's just time consuming.
Yeah.
And then I wanted to give a shout out for some new software.
I don't really work on computers anymore
and I don't really offer remote support for computers.
But occasionally I need something like Team Viewer.
You know,
somebody needs a problem solved and they just want me to remote
in their computer to fix it.
It's probably the easiest way.
Team Viewer has increasingly made this like impossible over the years.
It is like, it's so annoying.
Like it used to be you just download it and like you might be able to use it for like 15
or 30 minutes and like that was it,
which was fine.
But now it's like they kick you off after like five.
minutes or something and it's like oh you need a subscription and it's like one billion dollars for a team viewer
subscription it is so expensive like i have no idea like i looked into it because i'm like i have a company
i could use team viewer a couple times a year how much was it and i like i think it was like thousands
of dollars for like one person and i'm just like all right well that's ridiculous so i found this new
software and i actually needed it today and used it it it's called rust desk uh awful name uh but it literally
works just like team viewer where it gives you an id and password you type it in
and bada bingo bada boom you're connected to the other computer uh they have some remote access
options which i don't necessarily need um but this seems pretty nice you can also self-host it
and all this all this fun stuff this is the kind of narrative stuff that uh that gavin likes so
have you heard of this gavin yes i have but i haven't i don't need to use uh team viewer a lot
um but i know what you're talking about because back in the day you just you didn't even have
to install it you could just download it and run it and then connect
Yes. And it was so easy.
And then it just got harder and harder to find the installer and how do I get that again?
So I gave up.
Luckily, I don't do it often.
Yeah, me either, which makes it annoying.
Like, when I'm dealing with my computer, it's easy because I use Chrome.
And so you use the Chrome remote desktop and it works great.
I have no problems with that.
But it's like, how do I do that with another client?
I guess they have a sharing option.
But then they have to have Chrome.
And Windows used to have it built in where you can like ask for help
or something like that and basically
you can connect to somebody through
that. I don't know
if they remove that or they just made it
hard to find now. I don't know.
That was a while ago.
It's built into the Macs though. Like Mac
Mac has it still built in.
Or you can allow somebody else to remote in?
Yeah. Yeah. They have their own
they have their own version of
like remote desktop. Yeah, but it's only for your account or is that
for like other people? No, I think it's any
Mac on the network.
See, I'm trying to access somebody from remote.
Yeah, remotely, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've been using, what's it called,
jump desktop for that, too,
and it allows you to put in, like,
a persistent client or whatever.
This is run a little software.
So I have, like, some computers installed at clients,
homes that I can still get into
and go in and, like, make changes
if I need to get on their network and do something.
Yeah, so I have a couple of those still out there.
So I also picked up this little guy.
It is a G-L-I-Net remote KVM.
So if you want to try that out, I don't know.
I haven't plugged it.
I plugged it in once and I couldn't get it to work with an old,
what is they called?
The trash can, the old trash can over there.
So I'm going to try it on this M4 mini, but I never plugged it in yet.
So it's basically just giving you remote access to a computer.
Is that the whole purpose of it?
Yeah.
Yeah, well, it's like physical, like it has a physical HDMI input.
And then it's got like a keyboard mouse, USBC, power and Ethernet.
You plug it in.
And then it's got like a, I think they use like a wire guard to connect if you want to.
It's got a few options built it to.
I haven't really had time to play with it because I got it plugged in and it didn't work.
And I'm like, oh, and it's like, oh, I probably just need to read the instructions.
And so I read the instructions and it said you can go to the local install of it rather than doing the cloud setup.
So it went to the local setup and it's like, hey, you need to update the firmware.
And then it worked perfectly.
So there you go.
They shipped it with their low firmware version number.
And as soon as I updated, it seemed to work fine.
but I couldn't get the old USB to work with the USBC port on here.
And it wasn't what I wanted to do anyway.
So I was just like, well, I'll wait until I plug it in over here.
But I found out that I'm out of plugs.
Dang it.
That always happens.
So instead of finding a plug to plug it into, I will, I don't know.
Is that all you got, TJ?
Is that all you've been up to you?
That's all I got.
Yeah, Jump Descott works across Windows and Mac and maybe Linux.
I don't know.
They have a little remote installer you can use.
And you can set up any kind of remote computer thing you want to.
So it has the native remote desktop or whatever,
which you shouldn't use because it's probably insecure.
I can use that.
I think TeamView got hacked a while back too.
So, I don't know if I need to use them.
Yeah.
Anyway, so I have been doing stupid stuff with old video game consoles.
Like what?
Yeah.
Well, we decided my daughter needed to like learn how to play video games
because it feels like that's a skill that kids.
should have these days. Heck, yeah. So we were like, hey, do you want to play video games?
Of course, she's all in. So we have a bunch of these old consoles that we used to play.
Well, I don't play them, but my wife used to play, and she has. So we've got like the Nintendo's.
We've got the Sega Dream, the Sega Dreamcast, right? And the GameCubes and all that good stuff.
So as we started using them, I plugged them into the TV and we have the old analog, you know,
yellow red and white cable going there and if you had like a 20 inch tv back in the day it was perfect
for that but as soon as you get over i don't know 40 50 inches for a tv the analog audio looks
really awful in an audio video like you don't want to use that anymore so i was going around
trying to see like how how you can like modify these things to get htmi and um the dreamcast i got
working first so
that one was actually
no soldering needed
it's just a little
like a dongle actually here's the one for the
Wii I'll probably end up using
so it's like a little dongle you plug into
the Wii it gives you a CMI so now I can
go to me it's yeah you're done
all finished the other consoles that
aren't of that generation so like
the Nintendo 64
and the GameCube require
some very very detailed
soldering I don't know how
to do yet. So I'm going to get a swing. Let's see what happens. But one of the things I found
that people are doing these days is you can basically take out the disk drive because what goes
bad on these things is the things that move, right? So the little disk drive goes bad and little
capacitors and stuff go bad on it so it doesn't work quite as well as it used to. Well, that's what
that happened to our GameCube. I had to replace capacitors on it on the logic board of the stupid thing.
And it kind of works a little bit better, but not that great. You have to leave it on. It has to like
charge up. I don't know.
something's wrong. Anyway, I found out that they have these little mod boards that they have made that geniuses have somehow figured out like what pin goes where. And you can basically like plug these things in and it emulates the drive when the thing boots up. And you can just like load an SD card full of all the ROMs on it. And you have basically every game playing on the actual hardware. Like it's the actual software playing on the hardware. So funny enough, we already had a bunch of those for the Sega Dreamcast and just loaded them up on this little card.
man what a little what a fun little thing and coming out htm i on the dreamcast like it it looks like
it's like it's a bGA output right but it's it's it looks great looks great i have like a 65 inch tv
it's looked up to playing crazy taxi too playing some marvel versus capcom come on like i'm not playing it
my daughter was screaming and yelling and jumping up and down and she's like i want i want i want
she's having a blast like this is what your childhood should be yeah exactly he's like stupid homework
don't do that. Let's play Marvel versus Capcom.
That's right. Well, that's fun.
Yeah. So that's what I'm up to. Yeah.
There's a lot of these like retro game console adapter things out.
I had a client that wanted to use their retro consoles with a new TV.
And we ended up going with like a retro tink is what it's called.
They have like five or six different models.
But it's just a harder box that you plug in your game console too.
And then it upscales it's a 4K and all that good stuff.
They're pretty nice.
But they're expensive.
so these these are not as expensive as something like that i've seen those um yeah but but there's a there's a
there's a couple reasons i think you would want to get those because it like does upscale it but also like
keeps some of the fancy stuff the like the you can you can turn it off like the aliasing or the lines
on the tv screen or video loop yeah you can turn that on and off you want it um but what i'm look
what i have i haven't put it in because i turns out i'm blind and i can't see that small
is these pieces that actually solder on
it's like a ribbon cable
and it solders on to the motherboard
onto the chips. Like they have figured out
what pins on the chips
come off this stuff and it plugs into this little computer
that they've divined and made up
and it's got an ACMI output on it. You just run
an ACMI cable and they, of course
they've 3D printed these little keystone jacks that fit
exactly like you just like desodder
the old AV output. You take that out
and they've got like perfectly fitting
HTML jacks that fit right in
where that HTMLI or the old AV thing was.
So now you have like a Nintendo 64
with actual legit HTMLI out
straight off the chip.
Like it's straight off the video production chip.
Yeah, it's amazing.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
And the ribbon cables that they have,
I don't understand it's sitting here somewhere.
I think I moved it.
Not there.
The ribbon cables they have actually like they show like a,
they're like perfectly laid out.
And they have, like, little pins, and then they have these little shoot-offs.
Like, it's crazy.
Whoever invented this or whoever, like, had time to sit there and go through all this stuff
and, like, figure out what pin was what, man.
Geniuses.
There's geniuses out there.
And it gets you on Wi-Fi.
Like, you can get on Wi-Fi on these things and update them.
Update the firmware on them.
It's crazy.
For Nintendo 64.
It's wild.
Anyway, that's what I've been doing.
It's been a lot of fun.
And it's even more fun when the kid gets to play an old video game, like Tony Hawks,
skater, like Tony Hawk skater. Oh my god.
He's got all the videos on it and everything, all the old soundtracks.
It's like, you don't even know. This game was revolutionary.
For sound design, that game was pretty cool.
Play old video games. They're still out there.
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Thanks so much, Griff.
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Yeah.
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Take care.
Gavin, are we going to put like your ding-dong as a patron goal or something?
Hey, if it covers my flight, though, I'll work with me.
I said you a ding-dong.
You can have a couple different levels.
You can have a couple different levels, you know?
One's an e-copy, the other one's like a physical copy.
No, no, for $10, you just get the tip all the way up to $100.
So all I'm going to do is whatever file you send me, I don't care.
Like, well, I'm going to just take the audio of you saying ding-dong, and that's what people are going to get.
When you ring the doorbell, it's just going to be Gavin going, ding-dong.
Ding-dong.
That will be funny.
My voice, ding dong.
Ding dong.
Oh, man.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Oh, man.
It's too good.
It's too good.
All right.
Well, let's stop recording now that I got all those ding don'ts recorded.