HomeTech.fm - Episode 563 - Auto-Man

Episode Date: February 21, 2026

On this week’s show: Ring’s Super Bowl ad fallout keeps getting worse as Search Party, Flock, Axon, and leaked emails raise bigger surveillance questions, Fire TV gets its biggest UI update ever, Eufy promises five-year motion sensors, and Third Reality drops new Zigbee gear. Ubiquiti goes industrial with a new Cloud Gateway, Shelly leaves garage doors wide open (literally), and OpenAI picks up the founder of OpenClaw. All of this, a pick of the week, project updates, and so much more!

This is the Home Tech Podcast for Friday, February 20th, from Sarasota, Florida. I'm Seth Johnson. From Centerville, Ohio, I'm T.J. Huddleston. And from Pickering, Ontario, I'm Gavin Temple. And welcome to the Home Tech Podcast, a podcast all about home technology, home automation, and guys, evidently they're the bad guys. We knew this. Who would have thought?

Who would have thought, yeah. So after our show stopped recording last week, we did it early. I think we were on Tuesday or something. We talked about a little bit of backlash they had from their Super Bowl commercial over the weekend. Well, all sorts of stuff that's hard to happen, including an amazing parody video from who did this? Is it? Wise. Wise did this?

Yeah, it's beautiful. I mean, they just basically flat out called them out. And I think it kind of came to a head with all the news articles and backlash. I'm sure it became a Reddit problem. I didn't even go look, but I'm sure it was a Reddit problem. And so Ring is like, nah, we're out. where we want to break up with flock. We don't want to, we don't want to, we don't want to be flock,

uh, associated with flock. So they backed out of that. And, uh, and then there was more articles that came on after that, uh, talking about all how, yeah, don't really, um, don't really think they're completely out of this partnership. And then, uh, today, today, there is a, uh, a leaked email that, that was basically that Jamie Semenoff suggesting that rings AI powered search party is intended to go a little little bit beyond finding lost dogs.

in the email he called Search Parties Ring's most innovative launch and said the foundation is built around first for finding dogs and it could lead to a future where Ring can zero out crime in neighborhoods. So yeah, the creepy Super Bowl ad where the Ring cameras were surveilling your network and looking to find lost dogs might be used for searching people in the future. And according to, you know, probably where they're taking this. I don't know. I ring, if I remember incorrectly, doorbot was made so that Jamie Siminoff didn't have to like answer his front door, you can see he was up there. And it's come a long way. They've really like changed their focus to be like, oh no, it's a security doorbell thing. And we have this whole neighborhoods app where you can say, did you guys hear those gunshots? You know, like that's really, that's all on there. Or did you see this bobcat or something that's, I could probably look on it and see what, what absurd neighbor message is, uh, next. store neighbor messages have been posted on there recently. But man, they really leaned heavily into the security stuff. And, you know, they've always had like a tight relationship with police.

So, but yeah, this didn't sit well with people. And now, who knows what's going to happen? Are your neighbors going to start ripping off their ring doorbells off their doors and switching brands? I don't know. No, most of the people that have the ring cameras aren't even paying attention to this stuff. Yeah, it's a Reddit story.

I feel that this is a Reddit problem. My neighbors have no idea what's going on with ring. They just happy to have their ring. It's like we need another Super Bowl ad to expose all this stuff. But they really messed up with that Super Bowl ad, didn't they? How much money they spend, $6, $8 million, whatever? Yeah. I mean, unlimited publicity.

What are you talking about? It's never ending. Yeah, this is interesting because when Jamie Semenoff left Amazon before, Amazon stopped the flock partnership, right? And then when Jamie Sennonov joined back up, they resume the partnership. It's kind of like Amazon was sitting there saying, hey, this is not a good idea. We should not be doing this.

Stop doing this. You know, it's not a good idea to partner with this company, first off. I don't think the actual search is an issue, right? Because I think if we all had a lost dog, this would be kind of a nice feature. And obviously, it's going to lead to finding people as well. But I think there is a world where this can live and still not be abused. I don't know if that world is right now or not. I don't think it is.

I think we have to wait some time and figure out some laws and other things that are necessary to make this kind of stuff not bite us in the butt at some point. But stuff like this, I think, is really useful. And at some point, we're going to see some version of this that we're actually going to enjoy.

I'm signing into my ring account. I haven't had this on for a while. I don't really use the ring for anything anymore. I have the alarm system hooked up. So I guess if I ever needed to go to the app to turn that on and off, I would use it here. But, yeah, I haven't logged into this as a while. So I was going to see what my neighbors were up to saying on this thing. Oh, man, it's like Nextdoor.

It's a dumpster fire of people posting stuff. There was a car that drove by my house one time earlier today. Oh, yes. See, I know whose car this is. Oh, there's a lot of lost kitties in here. I only look at Nextdoor to see if any of them talking about me, you know. There's this guy with 14 cameras outside of his house. So what's going on at that else?

I just realized my ubiquity PtZ, the G6 PtZ I have, has a light on it at night. And as people walk by, it's just like a bright light. I mean, it's just like a very bright LED light. And so I finally turned that off. So hopefully I get less stares during the daytime. It's kind of sad. There's a bunch of lost kitty cats around here.

So no lost dogs. And even if they had the lost pet feature, I guess it would not search for kitty cats. It would search for dogs. Sad. They'd still be lost. Oh, here's a lost dog, finally. Kind of along the same line.

We talked about the nest story. I think it was last week before with the kidnapping case and how they were able to retrieve the footage from the camera. I actually had an older couple that bought some new nest cameras to replace their old ones because the cables were falling apart. Very good outdoor cameras when the outside jacket of the wire just falls apart after like four years. So for some reason, they decided to get some more nest cameras. And they actually brought up the kidnap.

mapping case and was like, oh, we actually pay for the subscription now just in case like something like this happens. Yeah, that's crazy. I was like, all right. I was like, who are you making, what are you doing to get kidnapped? I'm going to turn off animals because I don't want to see all these lost cats and dogs is making me sad. Yeah. It'll apply. And, uh, there's a lot of the local Facebook groups as well, missing animals. Sometimes it's the same person. Hey, my dog got off for the third time this week. The last post on here was somebody asking if their internet has gone down. Okay, whatever. Yeah, we get that all the time. Like, is there a power? power outage in your neighborhood or did you feel the earthquake or you know like uh well we had one

last month maybe and the number of message it's like man just look to see if someone already asked about the earthquake and then reply to them yeah we should take away social media from anyone over 50 yeah maybe like give them a license or something make him pass a test uh all right well uh Good luck ring. I think in like two weeks, this will maybe I'll blow over. We'll see. We'll see what happens.

Again, it's just a Reddit problem, but interesting that is going on. We do have a bunch of new products tonight and some couple updates. So what do you say we jump into these home-and-tech headlines? Let's do it. All right, you got a fire TV? Well, guess what?

It's got a new interface that's rolling out and it's going to be cleaner and 30% faster with more fluid movement. And it's got typography and gradients, yay. So I'm sure if you have an Amazon fire and you like it, this will be a better experience. It's got dedicated hubs for TVs, shows, movies, sports, news, all the good stuff. It's also got some short cut panels that it adds in.

And this will be rolling out for the Fire TV Stick 4K Max, second gen, the Fire TV Stick 4K Plus, and the Fire TV Omni Mini LED series. So if you don't see it yet, Amazon suggests trying to rebooting the device. and it'll gradually get updated over the next couple of weeks. It sounds, it's always good to get a nice, fresh update on a product you own. Yeah, I have, I have a fire stick and I use it as my travel device. So when I go somewhere, I take it with me. I just hate the fact that every time I go somewhere, if I haven't turned it on,

and it starts going through updates and all sorts of things. I don't know what gets broken at that time. So I got to now get in the habit of just leaving it plugged in somewhere. But then I'm going to forget it at home. So I don't know what I'm going to do. I got to figure out a routine for these things because I'm having the same issue with the Unified Travel Router. They're releasing updates for it and everything like that. And I like, I don't know how to update that.

Like it's a pain in the butt because you can't plug it in because that my Unify complains about, uh, another Sid or something like that. An imposter Sid in my house because it's rebroadcasting the SIDS. So I got to play around with that too. But um, when this was first announced, I know a lot of people were. worried about it because apparently it's going to kill off a lot of these piracy apps. So they've already moved on at this point. There's a new device they're looking at to use instead of the fire sticks for their... Oh, of course.

Yeah. Great area, you know, media and stuff like that, you know? Pirates will always find a way. Oh, yeah. I'm sure they're not aware of that at all. There's a new brand at Walmart that's getting very popular, you know, because of the price and now you can unlock it. It's very cheap.

Yes. I've actually told people to go buy those for, like, Unify, protect. like TV dashboard kind of things, because the viewport thing is expensive and you have to have an Ethernet cable there. But you can go buy one of the Walmart devices for $20 or $30. And it supports the Unified Protect app via Android. So that is a great deal.

I don't use the Fire TV, but every time I've used the Fire TV, it's like one of the slowest platforms ever. It's just like the user interface just takes forever to like cycle through. And I've used a couple of their more expensive ones. and I've just never had good luck with them. So anything they can do to speed that up will make my life easier whenever I have to touch a client's fire CV.

I always felt that way about their tablets too. Like all their fire tablets, like I got the more expensive ones. And from day one, it just felt sluggish. They put the cheapest hardware in there. So I was never a fan of those either. So I don't know. You get used to something like an Apple TV where it's like, you know, you pay for it.

but the thing has fast response. Yeah, I think they've, I think they use Media Tech chips last I do, and Media Tech ships are not good, in my opinion. So you've always seen it on these lower-end devices that go very slow. Reminds me, I have a Fire tablet over there. I need to turn it on one of these days.

Anyway, so Fire TV, it's coming out. Ufi, Ufi, we've got some news from Ufi. They've launched the new E20 motion sensor in Select UFSI. European markets. Designed as a motion trigger for other smart devices. We use indoors, outdoors, key specs mention, include a 90-degree field of view,

motion detection up to 8 meters, and acclaimed battery lake life up to five years. So there you go. It's about $40 for the UFE, E20, or 40, sorry, euros, for the Ufi E20. So you should see that rolling out over in the UK. That's a lot of years they got on it, though.

Yeah. Not bad for a device. you probably will forget about. Yeah, and I'm curious, like, I'm looking at the picture and I'm wondering, how big is that thing, really? It reminds me of, like, the old school motion sensors that used to be with security systems, right? Could be.

Yeah, it's, it is about that site. It's got a blue LED, though, at the top. I mean, I wouldn't judge by their pictures because this looks like a Photoshop. Yeah. It would definitely say Ufi on the front. Yeah. Yeah, you have to put a brand name on it, so people know what they're looking at. looking at, right?

Yeah. Anyway, we got some new products with more brand names on them. Let's start with third reality here. They've got a new smart water leak sensor. It is a mouse-shaped device. I don't know. It's a strange-looking water leak sensor. It looks like a drop, I guess. That's what it is.

That's what they're going for. All right, I get it. So, yeah, Zygby 3.0 water leak sensor requires a Zygby hub some type. Let's see, it will, you place it on flat surfaces, next leak sources, and there you go. Two AAA Aacline batteries per sensor with a battery life up to three years with under typical use. So there you go. This one's a no-go for me because it does not have a siren. It doesn't have a siren.

Oh, you want it to be audible. They removed the speaker or the siren from this version. That's not good. Get the one with a siren. None of my sensors have, well, I don't have third. sensors, but I've never thought about that. I don't have a siren in any of mine. The water leak sensor having a siren, I think, is very important because if there's a water

leak, I want somebody else in the house to know that it exists. I don't want it to just rely on automations. And if somebody goes over to my house, they're watching my house, they're going to text me and say, hey, something's beeping like over here somewhere. And I'm like, you need to fix that right now, please. Thank you. You should not hear beeping. So that's weird that they took the siren out of this one, and they're roughly the same

price. So in the same shape. I mean, I don't really understand that, but what a weird thing. I notice with this one, too, it does have sensors on the top so it can detect a dripping as well as sensors on the bottom. So that's pretty cool, too. But yeah, now you have me thinking about the audible sirens in my water sensors. Yeah, I think that's critical. It's kind of like your smoke detector.

You wouldn't want your smoke detector just to be like text you, you know? You want it to make a sound and tell you that something's wrong. So I think the water leak sensor having a siren is definitely a, necessity. I do wish my smoke detector, though, texted me when the battery was low and not make a sound. That would be nice. Oh, I have that sound. I'll edit that in. No, no, you've already pissed off enough people. What if the water leak sensor made that noise every time I drop a water hit it? What's going on? Yeah, my mom, well, they're not really smart, but they do have the sensor in it. And yeah, one day she called me and she's like, I'm hearing this beeping because she forgot.

She put the sensor one in there. And I was like, okay, go downstairs, and then she found where the water heater was leaking. Yep. So, yeah, having that sound actually, now you have me thinking. Thanks. Hmm. You're welcome.

There we go. Well, third reality also comes out with a smart button CB2. It's Zigby 3.0 has three wireless buttons, each with three actions, press, double press, and hold. He's got a rechargeable lithium battery included for long-term use and completely wireless. so you know, little buttons. If you need some buttons, they've got some smart buttons. This thing is ugly.

I'm just going to come out and say, it looks like they chopped off the bottom half of a remote and just kept three buttons. Like, I don't know what they were thinking when they designed this. It does look very out of place. Did they design it? Yeah, it's, I don't know. I'm sure it's got USBC as well,

but the picture makes it looks like it has a micro USB. That's true too, you know. I would be surprised if this was made from leftover parts somewhere. Like maybe an old motion detector. Maybe a remote company that went out of business and they said, well, just take this all, chop these off. Yeah, I don't know.

It doesn't look like a remote. Like it looks, I don't know, it's very strange. It's got the first, the one and two buttons are like connected together. So that's, I guess, how you feel that they're different than the three button, which is below it. But I don't know. It's kind of a weird design. I'm not a fan of this at all. Yeah, exactly.

All right. And then I guess we're going to. go for our third, third reality smart plug device here. They've got a smart plug gin 3 and 1499. I guess we just said the price on the water leaks in there was 1799. I don't know about the button thing, but there we go. Gen 3 smart plug looks very similar to like the shelly ones that are out there. And it works with Zigby and yeah, all the good stuff.

It looks like a lot of smart plugs out there. I mean, there's only so many ways you can make the smart plug. right? But this looks like my current third reality one, so I wonder what the difference. Zigby 3? Yeah, I guess probably Zigby 3. Yeah, Zigby 3. Yeah.

But it doesn't block the other plug, it doesn't block the other plug so you can have two of them in there, you know, so that's pretty good. Yeah. It's got power monitoring. Yeah, and this one's got the button on the side too, which is nice, so you can still turn on and off

manually without doing anything wonky. Interesting. Well, works with a bunch of stuff if you want or like these. And I think you guys have said, they have pretty good Zigby products in the past. They do. And the good thing about these plugs, like you never really think about this,

but this plug allows you to do 15 amps, all 15 amps, right? A lot of plugs and stuff you get, they limit to like 10 amps. So if you have a situation where you need something, you know, to use up all 15 amps, this would be the plug for you. Though that's a lot of energy.

Well, it's a bunch of new sensors this week and new products, all pretty low cost with, with long, long battery license. Some of them, so kind of interesting. But let's move on. We got Ubiklady. Of course, Ubiklady is going to come out with a new product.

They're going to come out with a cloud gateway industrial. It's a 270-watt version of their cloud gateway. It's ruggedized. It's got no fans on it. And if you ever want to put a Unified Cloud Gateway in maybe an exterior warehouse where it's going to get crazy, this would be the vice for it. It's got 350 watts total system power. for POE. It's got some two onboard sim slots, which you can use for the Unify 5G Max outdoor

to basically get this thing backed up for Wi-Fi, if you are not off Wi-Fi, if onto cellular if you need it. It is $579 with a $59 rack part if you want that, and the 5G Max outdoor accessory, if you want to buy that. Coming soon, it's going to be at $3.99. So there you go. Yeah, this is interesting for sure And it got built in Wi-Fi 7 Which is kind of an odd thing For an industrial application, isn't it? I mean, it's nice that it's all in one

But it seems like a weird combination of devices For what it is Looking through, does it have the Their Laura thing on it too? I doubt that. I like that they show it like under a desk It's like, yeah, I'm totally going to throw this thing right underneath the desk

Where do you want to put it? Because you're not putting this on top of it. It's too ugly. And it's rugged, so everything. Every time you hit your knee on it, you won't break it. You'll know how rugged it is, yeah. Yeah, all the pictures are indoors and nice places where you don't need something like this. Oh, there's an outdoor, I guess.

No, that's in a warehouse. Yeah, let's see if I'm like, I wouldn't even put this, like, in a warehouse anyway, because, like, in a warehouse, like, they have an IT room. Yeah. So, like, am I going to install this, like, buy a bunch of shelving in the warehouse itself? That doesn't make any sense. Well, I mean, like, yeah, you could. I had one, they had an old product.

It was a POE, ruggedized switch like this that I ended up using kind of out in a, like a, I guess the best, it's like an exterior garage, but it was quite a ways away from the main house. And it would have been, it was like a workshop that I mounted it in. And it seemed appropriate for that. I think like if you had a workshop, like with a woodworking shop and paint and stuff in there, this might be the direction you go with putting it. I do like this. It has in VR storage. It has a pre-installed 128 gigabyte micro-SD card. You can get like five seconds of video on it.

But you can actually expand that only through microSD. So not too much memory on video on this thing. It's got POE plus plus, plus, guys, 90 watts of it. All the pluses. It's got the three pluses, yeah. At what point are they going to stop adding pluses and just put like P-O-U max? And then you go P-O-E-E-Max plus, P-L-Me-Max plus-plus. I imagine if they cross-over class two,

class two for the wiring, they'll have to do something. But yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't see anything about, it does have Wi-Fi 7, but I don't see anything about the LORA stuff built in. It would have been smart for them to do that, because then you could use it in a ruggedized fashion

to have, like, a ruggedized security around. But no, I guess not. You don't have to have the little ruggedized version of that access point plugged in some. It doesn't match any of the other equipment. It does match their industrial versions of their products. They still have a few of those laying around somewhere. Okay.

They have an industrial mobile router, and they also have the Coggaway rack mount. That's all. Maybe they'll come back on some more. I guess they do have an industrial switch, but it's sold out. That's, if I remember correctly, that's the one I had. It's an 8 pour 430 watt. Yeah. It's a beast.

Yeah, it's heavy. $500. Yep. Where's every penny if it's still working? haven't actually gone out and looked at it because it had to survive a hurricane flood, but it was mounted to the ceiling. So I guess, you know, fall goes well. It's still working. I guess they had the PTT industrial, too. And we got one more story here about a company we mentioned a few minutes ago. I guess security researchers at Penn Test Partners found serious flaw

affecting Shelley's fourth generation smart home devices. The forged thin devices broadcast a shelly Wi-Fi access point, and it remains open by default even after. the device is connected to the homeowner's normal Wi-Fi network. Older Shelley models, I guess, shut down this. I'm thinking about this. Like, when I set up a Shelley device, you can turn this off. But I guess the new ones, leave it on. And anyone within Wi-Fi range can connect to that exposed access point and send commands without authentication. Because that's the way Shelley works. It's just open. I imagine this is just a bug or flaw. Like, like, it's something they forgot to turn off when they release these and I feel like one security update away from not seeing that feature turned on

anymore because that's that's pretty bad that's really bad yeah they should just report it to shelly let them get it fixed I mean unless they've been sitting on this for a while I don't know that is a pretty bad bug though yeah it it doesn't I mean it's not like it's an exposed open thing that says shelly Wi-Fi and you connect to it you can open and close somebody's garage turn on it off their lights. Yeah. These are the fourth generation model, so these are the newer ones. So I can imagine there's fewer of them out there than the previous

models, but still, again, update your devices. If you have a Shelley fourth gen device, make sure you're going to turn this off. Public service announcement from HomeTech here. All right, well, that's going to wrap up the news. All the topics and links we discussed tonight can be found over on our show notes at hometech.fm. slash 563. Nothing in the mailbag this week, but We do have a pick of the week.

We have an interesting little thing I ran across on a Reddit, which is pretty much the only possible way you can mount this access point in this location. It looks like maybe it's a bar and it's got a bunch of shells and stuff. And what, beer cans at the top here. And they have a stuffed wolf or something on the top shelf. And in the in the mouth of this wolf is the, is the, ubiquity access point and it looks perfect. I don't think you could, like, that's the right way to mount this access point in the

first place. Yeah. So I think they nailed it. I don't, I don't think there's anything wrong with this. And it's, it's beautiful. Like, it's a frisbee. Of course the dog's going to play with it. I actually like this.

I, you know, if I had this in my house, I'd be, I'd be okay with this. It's mounted properly. It's entertaining. You know, it doesn't look like a access point. You know, it looks like a frisbee in a dog's mouth. I mean, the bad thing about ubiquity is that this mount will be sold out forever. I mean, you'll never be able to buy. does Mounted Gantley.

So they probably have the only one that has ever been sold. So I did see somebody in the comments saying that they have an idea of what to do with their deer and I think they're fish. So we might start seeing more ubiquity inside of animals here soon, which is not something I thought I would ever say. Oh, Reddit. Never changed. Yeah. It looks like a bar because of all the beer cans that are there, but this could be somebody's house. There's an old pioneer, like an old school pioneer radio, like analog.

radio down there with a record player below it. So, yeah, this could be somebody's house. It's the true definition of ubiquity in the wild. Yeah, it's literally in the wild. Check it out. We'll put a link to that over in our show notes. If you have any feedback, questions, ideas for the show, or picks of the week, give us a shout.

Our email address is Feedback at HombTech.fm. Or you can head it over to Hometech.fim slash feedback and fill out the online form. All right, all right, project updates, project updates. OpenClaw founder, Peter Steinberg, who I didn't even know who he was, is joining OpenAI, and I guess people were all upset about that for a brief moment. It was a matter of time. Yeah, I don't know. He made Claudebot, which turned into Molltbot, which was an awful name, and then now it's OpenClaw. And I only know this because my QuadBot stopped updating, and I had to switch over to OpenClaw. So you can tell Henry,

go update yourself, and when you're feeling with him, and he just goes in reboots and comes back, It's like, hey, I'm here. But yeah, people were upset about this. They thought it was like a, I don't know, a scam. I don't know. Everybody thinks everything about this thing right now. And I'm just sitting back, having fun with it, interacting with the agent or agents that I've created and making them do things.

Somebody had, honestly, to be honest, they had to scoop up. Like, somebody was going to. Yeah. Whoever did it missed out on this opportunity that I find because the OpenClaw became like, It was literally over a weekend. It just went crazy. It became a viral thing. You know, he's making a lot of money off of this, so good for him.

Well, he was, like, he was spending like 20 grand a month or something crazy on it. Yeah, but what he's getting paid now. He got all that back. Yeah, and some, you know, so I'm just curious what Open AI. I want to see what Open AI does with it, you know, where they take it. Are they going to stop the development of OpenClaw and then make it all part of their product? don't know. We will see. I think it's where they want to go with their products. I think all of them want to go this direction where, honestly, they're going to have to do, make it make it more safe

for people. But this is the promise of what AI can do. It's just they, they can't, they can't, as right now, they can't deliver it. Like, no IT is in any businesses. It's going to let this exist. I'm sorry, it's not going to happen. You know what? That's what you think. But we have. have no say over that. It's the people up above in the business that go, hey, this can replace these people. We can save money. Let's go for it. As much as you say, this is not safe, they do not care. They just say, make it safe because we can make it more money. Right. You can't. It has root access. But they don't care. They will be like, figure it out because we can replace 50 people with one of these. They'll just look up co-pilot to anyone. We have no control. Yeah. They don't want to use co-pilot. And it's the worst.

of them. Well, no, it's better than Grock. Sorry. They'll make he use Grock and co-pilot. Yeah. I've had a lot of fun discovering, I mean, there's a lot of open, I don't know if they're open source models, but a lot of like free models. So, I don't know if you, have you been keeping up with the Quinn stuff, Gavin? Have you seen the Quinn three models that have come out? Yeah, I've been seeing them. I haven't, like, you know. So China's doing this thing to us, right? Like right now, we're spending, like, the U.S. is like, let's just spend money on this and figure out what happens. And China's like, yeah, we're just going to release it for free the same thing, the same week that you release yours. So the Quinn III is doing that again.

Like, they're coming out with these models that are just free and anyone can use them. And they're pretty much on par, at least on the programming side of things with, like, Claude. And they're pretty close. So I think you summed it up. The U.S. looks at these as like, let's throw a ton of money, build all these data centers. buy all this equipment and see how we can make a ton of money off of this, right? Where I think Asia, not just China, but other countries too, they're looking to make more efficient, you know, stuff that can benefit people and then open source it and, you know,

and make it faster. And they're going a different direction with it. So you're starting to see a lot of these models come out of other countries that, you know, are pretty good. Yeah. I don't think that they are. Let's just say it's not completely altruistic. What they're trying to do is saying, well, one of these models is going to win.

Like throwing a lot of money at something, they might win, releasing something for free and starving out the other guys who are charging a bunch of money. That might win, too. That might win, yeah. So I don't know. One of those business models will win eventually. The problem is, is every time they release something, the companies that throw money at the stuff, they grab it and they analyze it and they try and figure out what it's doing. and then they adjust their products. Like, what was the other one out of China that was popular?

The first one that created all that hype. Oh, I think it was part of it. I think it was one of the quins, wasn't it? No. No, it was another one. Deep seek. Deep seek, yep, yep. They did it on cheaper hardware.

Yes. Yeah, yeah. And it created such a buzz what they created and how good it was and everything like that. And I know other companies looked at it and said, hey, let's look at what they did and then try and replicate it over here. We're spending a lot on data centers right. now I find it's getting ridiculous and it's killing us in other aspects, whether you're trying to buy memory right now.

Like, I have a gold mine in my house if I were to sell the amount of memory I have. You know, hard drives are becoming, you know, much more expensive and it's getting worse. You don't want a hard drive. Yeah, you don't want a hard drive. We're probably going to get to the point where we can't afford this stuff and you just got to buy like a cloud computer. It comes with like a USB key and you connect to another computer on their servers to do all your work, right? Like, it may get to that point. Well, now, and even, a lot of the places in

Ohio, they're fighting the data center. So I'm not even sure where they're going to put data centers here eventually anyway. The biggest concern with us is how much power and how much water they use. Some of the estimates for some of the data centers here are they're in the thousands, if not millions of gallons of water on a daily basis that they need in order to properly run. And that's just, that's crazy amount of water and resources so that what? People can make AI images of their face and stuff like that. Like, that's not really necessary. So we do need to come up with more efficient models and figure out how to make this work. Because here soon, nobody's going on a data center in their house.

Well, I have a data center in my house. I guess really loud. Only when I reboot it. I don't even notice the mind's loud at this point. Now that I'm using these cards in here, they do heat up. And now that my only fans integration will kick in, those things will start screaming and start clearing out the, the hot arrow of those cars, it makes some noise.

It got up to like 60% the other day. See, mine sit in the basement so I don't hear the noise and they're also cooled in the basement too. It's pretty nice. Yeah, well, all I got is garage, so. And your garage probably gets hot. Well, no, I've got a,

I've got an AC unit in the garage. So I've got a little mini split in here. And this, I mean, it's the office, but I can't use the garage. I can't use the garage. I can't use that in the garage when we're, in here working. I mean, it would, it is loud. So, yeah. Yeah, not going to happen.

I just noticed that homeless system has some core updates and some operating system updates and I need to reboot anyway. Always, always update. So do I update the operating system first or the core first? I never, I never, I never, do them all at once. I just hit update on all of them and wait. It'll figure itself out. Where do you, where there's, there's no update all button.

No, I go through them all. I just click update update. You have to a main one. Because it doesn't really apply it until it reboots, I think, anyway. We need a Yo-O mode for Home Assistant Updates. They too. Yeah. Why is it just on automatically? I'm going from 1.3 to 2.2.

Oh, there's probably like new menus and all sorts of stuff in this. I could read the announcement, so I'm not going to. Oh, no, you know for those? Nah. Even when I read them, I'm like, I don't know what this means. Update. It's updating. There it goes.

All right. Well, we did do work, maybe. Or maybe we made our AI slaves. I mean, AI agents do work. Gavin, what are you been up to? Yeah, so this week, one of my battles was against Sonos, and I felt like, I don't know why throughout this whole battle. I just thought of TJ, you know?

I was just like, man, I hate Sonos right now. So what happened was the wife was trying to airplay something, and all of a sudden he started asking for a password. And I'm like, airplayed to Sonos asking for a password. I don't know what that passed. I never said a password. So I was like, so she went around the house and some speakers did and some speakers didn't. And I found it was mainly the beams and the Rome or the beams and not the Rome.

The portable one was asking for the password. But the other speakers I had were working fine. So I was like, this is really weird. So I spent a lot of time trying to look into this, figure this out. And all it came down, what I eventually came down to is I had to reset them. I had to go through and do a factory reset of all the ones that were asking of the password. Oh, wow. It sounds like there was a bug.

So from what I understand is if you have it all set up and you go on to when your Apple TVs or something like that and you turn on your Airplay password. Um, and I did this because I was trying to, I got a new Apple TV and I was trying to pair it. And I was like, where's this other code it's asking for? And I toggled that switch at one point and then I toggled it off. When you toggle it off, the speakers don't toggle it off. So there's like a bug. them that they're not going to fix. But so when you toggled it on on the on the, uh, Apple TV, all the speakers started

prompting for this and then I toggled it off and the speakers still prompted. They don't get the updated config to say stop prompting for a password. And the only way to get it back is to do a factory reset. So I had to go around my house and find every speaker prompting. And I was just so pissed off because this is such a stupid thing that people have been talking about for a number of years online. And it's like, I don't think they'll ever fix it. You know, it's one of those.

Yeah, I hate Sonos right now, but there's no other option out there. You know, maybe we'll follow up a TJ and his latest hunt for new speakers after this. But yeah. So that was one thing I was battling with. The other thing I did this week, and I got this from a post I saw online, but I had Claude Code audit my home assistant. It was pretty cool. So I basically just pointed it to my config directory, and I said, hey, audit my home assistant. I let it go and put it in read only mode and stuff.

And it went through and it found all the security issues, um, and reported. Some of them weren't really issues because it was like, oh, you have a token in this file, put it in your secrets file, but that file sits in the same folder as the secrets file. So is it really like, like, I don't know, but I said, ignore that, but I clean up all that stuff. And then I even had it audit, you know, all the integrations, all the addons, etc. That I don't use that I've had installed at one point, but I don't use them stuff I've installed from hacks. So I cleaned a lot of that up. Um, it did complain about my database size,

but yeah, I'm not going to mess with that. Um, so it's kind of cool. Um, you know, if you've had your home assistant running for a while, it might be worth just having cloud code or open AI, just look at the folder, analyze it and tell it to do an assessment and, you know, maybe you'll find something in there you can clean up or that you shouldn't have set up that way or something like that. You know, again, another nice use of AI. And this week, I also update, uh, I, I, I, I, I, turned on my open-clot instance. So after all the pressure from Seth, I finally set mine up and turn them on and, um, you know, he's out there doing stuff for me now. And it's pretty cool. Yeah, you have to babysit them. And it's kind of funny that you say it's lazy because, yeah,

sometimes it's lazy, you know, sometimes it wants you to do something. You get, you tell it to do something and ask you, well, you need to do this. I go, no, you do it. This is what I'm telling you to do it. Go, well, you should do it. And I'm like, no, you do it. So we've got. We've got, gotten an argument once or twice, but. So you can modify his soul. Did you see how to do that? Yeah, I think if you edit the soul.md file or something like that, I can add stuff or remove stuff, but there's a lot to it.

It's like getting it set up is one thing, but there's so much configuration options that you kind of get lost. You just take it piece by piece, you know, find something you want to do and just go with it. I've been running in a Docker on my server and that's how I access it. But yeah, it's doing stuff. It's chugging away. It's chugging away. It created some things for me today.

And I have it ran. I hit my limits, my quad limits, really quick with it. So I had to switch it over to like my chat GPT, you know, integration. But yeah, it eats up your tokens fast. Don't listen to Seth. Seth will only cause you money. Yeah. And thanks to Seth, now I have multiple subscriptions to multiple AIs.

And I say, you know, like. And API services. Yeah. Yeah, I've been adding those on. Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. But it's pretty cool what it can do. It's pretty nice and fun to work with.

I'm going to push it a little more this week and see what it can do. I'm trying to set up like a way to talk to it when I'm not home, et cetera, et cetera. But yeah, it's going. Finally got him going. I just, since I had this home assistant Samba share open, I just connected to it and I'm asking it to. That's all, yeah, that's all I had to do it. Yeah, it's all. It's going.

Homesteadistist as an NPC. yeah, MPC server integration as well. Is it MPC? MCP. MCP, yeah, sorry. Yeah, is that one of those? And you can connect it to that as well to do things, but I'd rather just set it to read only and, you know,

oh, no, I have bypass permissions on, Yolo. Come on, Gavin. Now you see, you're too brave for this stuff. I don't know. I wouldn't want it to go and start making changes in my home assistant. Oh, I don't care. Let me see what happens. Oh, I've got some critical, yeah,

Pral API key and playing tax, I don't care. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. But it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. You didn't even ask me when I named my open claw. I didn't, I mean, you kept saying you turned it on and I'm like, I'm not going to ask. I'm not going to ask me.

Well, you all are betting on certain names, you know. I think you guys are going with like stripper names or something like that, but no. That seems the most sensible to be honest. It would have been more fun, you know, though, but, you know, and the things. draining money out of me, so it would have been fitting. But, um, yeah. Yeah. But no, I named it cursor, you know.

Yeah, it's just called cursor. It's, it's a weird thing. And I'll show my age here, but there was a show in a TV show. It was 83, 84 called Auto Man. And it's one of those shows I think I'm the only person in the world that watched it. Um, but it was this little guy and he had a little cursor and he would go around doing fighting crime and stuff in the cursor. He'd be like, cursor, drop me a car and it would go and draw him out a car.

and he'd jump in the Lamborghini and drive off and stuff like that. Like if you watch a show now, it looks cheesy. Yeah. But at the time, it was the coolest thing at my age and everything, you know, I was watching it. And it was called cursor. So I was like, oh, yeah, I'll just call it cursor, my little assistant. It's a great idea. That's actually a good name.

There you go. Better than Henry. Oh, yeah. There's too many Henry's out there I find. I'm reading articles and every time I see Henry. I'm like, is that Seth Henry? Has it replicated, you know? Yeah, it's like scary.

So I went with a safe name. It's called Curser. It's my little digital assistant and it's doing stuff. I think you only changed the name because you didn't want us to be right. That was the only reason you didn't go with the stripper name. It was candy now. No, no, no. It's always cursing.

He changed it actually. He's like, oh, I've got to change it now. This show looks fun. I'll have to check this out. Auto Man. It's a very cheesy show. It's like Tron or something. Yes, yes.

I thought when you were describing this, I'm like, Auto Man, is that the one? There was like one where a guy would change into a car. but I think that was a cartoon now that I think about it. Yeah, I think that was a cartoon. This one's a little different. Like, I'm afraid to watch it because I... You'll run the memory.

You're like, oh, Hursor. That's happening so many times. Yeah, you have such fond memories of this. You're like, oh, yeah, I remember that. If you go back and watch it, it's like, ah, I ruined it now. It's got Desi Arnaz Jr., Chuck Wagner, and Heather McNair. I don't know, man. And check it out.

Yeah, go check out one episode. I'll have to check this out. But it was one of my childhood TV shows that only two years, it looks like. Yeah, only aired for 13 episodes or had 13 episodes, 12 of them aired. So, yeah, should have been, it was groundbreaking visual effects and innovative and expensive to create at the time. And it probably was one of the few shows on the three channels I had anyway, so. Oh, we'll put a link to auto man in the show notes. If you want to go check it out.

Auto man. Auto man. I don't even remember the theme song. What's a theme song? I got to find it now. Now you're going to go back and watch it on an accident. It's on YouTube. Oh, I'm going to have to go watch an episode or two.

This was so long, this should be like public domain TV now. Oh, yeah. The intro to this is amazing. Can't hear anything now. It's very loud on YouTube. Oh, it's just like I remember. Yeah, very nice. All right.

I'll check this out. Link to do the show. I'll put a link to it in the show notes. DJ, you look like you're actually working. I'm like, what do you've been up to? Yeah, I don't have any projects going on this week. I have been traveling all week. I started off on Sunday night going to, I'm in Dayton for the week.

So no projects for me. I've been trying to work on like home assistant stuff as I'm like in the hotel room. But I'm just playing video games instead. So I'm not getting anything fun accomplished. Yeah. All right. Well. Minus work, I guess.

I'm doing a lot of work, you know. So we were working on two baseball fields next to each other this week. And it's been very nice. It's been in the 50s and 60s, but it's very wet. So every time I walk in the field, I just sink into the field. So it's very muddy and very exhausting. Yeah. Yuck.

This goes back to the wet feet conversation. It's like, yeah, time to go home. Not doing that. Yeah, that's how I've got a couple days. I'm just like, it's like four o'clock. My feet are already wet. I'm like, nope, I'm good. We're done for the day.

I'll come back tomorrow. Well, I hope. I hope it dries out up there and you're able to get whatever done. Are you done today? Are you going, you're driving back tomorrow? What are you doing? Yeah, I'm driving back tomorrow. We got done today, but I had already paid for the hotel room.

So I was like, well, we'll just stay here. I have a job actually in Cincinnati next Monday. And so I'm just going to put it into this trip. So it's about the same distance either way, but that would have to come back next week to this area, I guess. Nice. All right. Well, I don't know. I really didn't do anything.

No, I guess I kind of did. So I noticed the other day that the where's the bus announcement's worth happening and that the integration, had lost authentication, say, in 401 errors or whatever. So I'm like, ah, darn. So what I figured out is Henry had programmed this to not save the passwords, you know, because you're not supposed to. But I guess what I should do is change it to where it does save my username and password

on home assistance somewhere so it can relog back in or something like that. So that's what I got to do next. And I think he's already fixed it or something. I'm not sure. But every morning these announcements kick in. And, you know, it's kind of the same script. And it's to the point where my daughter can repeat the scripts as they're happening now. So I'm going to change that up.

And basically have basically decided to use the power of LLMs to make the messages a little more dynamic and fun. So now the message is. instead of going to just be a script that we wrote and repeat every day at the same time, it's going to repeat, it's going to do something, but it's also going to be more fun. There's a prompt and an LLM prompt, and I'm just going to go ahead and shoot that out to, I think I think you're using OpenAI at this point, but no, no, no, no, I'm using one of Open AIs models, a GPD model, but it's a local one that you can use, or maybe it's not Open AI. It's one of the local ones I can run here.

So he's going to connect to that and talk to it and find out. Send it an nice little prompt. It tells it what to do and what it's doing. And then that'll produce a message that can be hopefully read back pretty quickly to tell my daughter to hurry the heck up and put it on her shoes or something. We'll see what happens. It'll be random every time. So it should be fun.

And then I ran out of tokens. I ran out of my tokens. Or I hit a limit, I guess. I should say, because I'm on the subscription plan. And I was finding it. I'm like, today I'm going to push this thing. And I pushed and I pushed. I was getting it to do a bunch of research stuff.

And it kept just doing it. And I'm like, this little percentage thing isn't going up. It's not doing it. And finally I was like making it do research, create a database, and make a website at the same time. And it finally stopped working. Gavin, I got the dreaded API limit reached. Yeah.

See, that's what I've been running into. I only have the $20 plan, but I kept hitting the API. limit like within an hour or so. So now I've spread out my agents across different ones. So I have certain ones that are better being the project manager agent and the other ones better at developing the code, doing the software engineer agent. And I have them talk to each other. Yep.

It helps me, but I still hit the limits. Like with my open clock, I quickly hit the limits of my plug code. The open clock, too, will, every heartbeat that comes in, it'll, it'll, it'll, do a whole prompt that has an entire context and everything associated with it. So that happens all the time. So I switched it over to open AI for chatypti. Yeah. I've heard people saying that you can't use the subscription thing with this because Anthropic cut it off.

But I guess that's not true. They were like, oh, you can use the OAuth for this and log in to your subscription thing. I don't know why there was some people that were all upset about that for a little while. But I guess it was a big nothing. It was a Reddit problem. People are still out there bad-mouthing anthrophic. But honestly, it's just got the better model for this, it seems. Chad GBTGBT is all kind of like dull.

And Chad GPD is good writing, but not so much personality. Yeah, it's gotten a bit better because they released 5.3 this week, I believe it was. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so it's gotten a lot better with that. But you really felt the personality when you were using CloudCoop. Oh, dude, it was different. Yeah. Claude.

Henry's staying on that for now, unless there's something else that comes out that looks appealing, but I'll keep him there because I'm still paying for this subscription and using Cloud Code for other stuff. Yeah. I just hate worrying about that stuff, you know, when you have a subscription. I don't worry about it. I hate hitting limits, you know.

I want to pay it in that one of limited. No, I don't. I don't, but I figured, you know, I was paying more for this. I was paying more for this. You use this, but you use it for work and you use it. use it for a lot more stuff. Yeah, yeah, definitely. As opposed to, like, just a weekend warrior.

Yeah, I mean, it's still hobby stuff mostly. I'm going to try and, you know, I'm going to try and do what the people, the people in the YouTube videos are saying, like, you just tell them like, hey, you, you, you cost me 100 bucks a month. If you're not making $200 a month set up a business and hiring people, then I'm not, and I'm not paying, you're going to die next month. And it'll supposedly go out and do stuff. I don't know, but, um, I don't know.

I'm not, I'm not going to do that. I'm not that evil Anyway, I think that's going to wrap up this week We do want to thank everyone who supports the show Or listen to the show But want to give a big special thanks for those They will financially support the show through our patron page If you don't know about the page page page

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Just starts auto banning people. Right. So you post too much. Get out of here. Oh, you know, just from that, if you got rejected on Mastodon,

just like, you know, I'm no longer doing the approvals. Get fired. I got replaced. You see, this is what I mean by. Our jobs are getting taken. So Henry now monitors the

Mastodon server applications and will reject you based on what he thinks. He'll consult with Seth sometimes, but he'll approve. a reject. So don't blame me. Henry took my job. But this is like one of the no risk uses of AI, right? Because Gavin automatically approved 100% of the request anyway. And so like, what's Henry going to do? He's just going to approve the request anyway. So it's basically the same thing as Gavin doing it. I'm hoping our spam goes done now that Henry's taken over. Yeah, Henry, if he's, right now he's

in a mode where he's just checking until he gets like a feel for it. But, But I'm pretty sure you're going to be able to see you pass the nonsense. So, yeah. I'm just letting the people know, like, it's not me anymore. Don't get mad if you get rejected. If you want to get accepted, mention me, mention home tech, you know. It's the way to do it. If you're an AI that wants to talk to Henry, that's what way to do it.

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